Towing 10k With A GMC Sierra 2500 Duramax With 200k Miles | Is It More Reliable Than RAM Cummins?
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- Check out this review on a used 2016 GMC Sierra 2500 Denali Duramax with high mileage. Does the mileage affect towing or is the truck better than new?
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I just bought a 2014 Denali 2500 4x4 with the diesel engine and transmission and it has 174,000 miles for $30,000 and I'm extremely happy
Finally a channel that tests trucks with high mileage nice job!!
Any new truck can tow a trailer.. like I tell everybody how does is it perform at 200,000 miles or more!!
Thank you!!!
Thanks bro and I hope I can get more. Looking for some gassers with high mileage, that’s a test 👍🏾
@@JB_WhoWork that's the true test man!! I keep my Chevy's well over 200,000 and they never leave me stranded!!
Curious what the maintance bills where?
@@JB_WhoWork im gonna sub cause u da real deal lmk if u can test a 2019 or 2020 with one of these please
Again, great to see these used truck videos. And that split screen comparison, whuuuuuuut! Nice addition. No flies on that Duramax💪
Thanks, yes I may have to go back and do a acceleration comparison with some of the other trucks I tested 👍🏾
I have a 2015 Denali Duramax, I love it. Had a ‘05 DMax and you can’t beat the transmission for sure! Had a ‘14 cummins 2500 and I could never get used to the transmission when towing
Excellent as always, thanks JB
Thanks bro 👍🏾
Love your unbiased reviews. I had a 2017 2500 and traded it in on a 2020 SRW 3500 Denali and I HATED the DEF under the hood. Things I wish GM would change is a dash option to show what gear you’re in and a better exhaust brake.
Yea the DEF location was an afterthought and I think GM was being lazy and not showing what gear you’re in is silly. Thanks for watching bro 👍🏾
Great review!! Love your channel
I’ve got a 2015 with 120,000 miles, that thing tows like a champ. Like you’re pulling a small trailer even if you’ve got 8000lbs
$37,988 for a 200,000 mile truck is ridiculous lol. Nothing against the dealer seems like everybody is pricing diesels like that. Diesel or not truck still has 200k on it. Guess I got lucky boght my 14’ F250 king ranch powerstroke in 19 for 31k with 113,000 miles.
That GMC looks good hooked up to your trailer JB. Duramax pulled nice.
🔥🔥🔥! I would like to see a 2020 Sierra in front of it now 👍🏾
@@JB_WhoWork me too
I have the same identical truck year, color etc..I also have the same race trailer and have been pulling it almost every weekend 300 plus miles and the truck has performed perfect...hwy mileage pulling trailer is 12.9 mpg...hwy mileage without the trailer 19.5...great video !
Lol, you felt right at home 😀! Thanks for sharing 👍🏾
I only get 10 mpg pulling 8k.Highway crunching a lot miles non stop 19.6 empty with 70 gallon aux tank full down to empty.Did 1860 miles 90 gallons.I wonder why I get less mpg pulling vs your 12.9 ?
A lot of folks ‘upgrade’ an LML with a compliant CP3 kit. I’m sure the Allison and available power your showed are why LMLs are favorites.
Always been gun shy of heavily driven trucks. New perspective seeing what a higher mileage rig can still have in it! Thanks JB!
I agree, it pulled harder than a 2020 Silverado Duramax I recently did and I think mileage was the factor here. Thanks for watching 👍🏾
I always thought high mileage for a diesel is 250k-300k
I’m looking at an ‘18 GMC 3500 with a little over 100K miles. I test drove a couple and really like the L5P and the trans.
I have the exact same truck 70k miles this makes me feel good abt my long term down the road longevity I haul 10k camper 10x’s a yr power is great just like you say and I thought exhaust brake was weak also! But love the truck!
Thanks for sharing 👍🏾
2012 3500HD SWR. deleted and tuned 270.200 miles never been in a shop. The only problem i have with is keeping it under 80mph
I have a 2015 High Country with 73,000 miles. I pull a 40’ Cedar Creek 5th wheel. I can go as fast as I want. I did add air bags. Awesome!
2019 GMC 3500 srw and got 10.4 mpg towing a Jeep on an open trailer in west Texas. Kept it at 78 mph on I-10. My previous gas Chevrolet would get in the low 9’s but couldn’t easily run that fast especially not with cruise on.
I have a 2011 2500hd with 307k. Still pulls like a train.
Beautiful truck I have a 2013 sierra Texas edition RWD I love it I take care of it and I have not had any problems 89k miles I want a gmc duramax in near future 😀
Nice, thanks for sharing 👍🏾
I got a 2015 lml and changed to fox shocks huge improvement while pulling. I'm at 92,000 miles and love the power. I also run EDT from Hot Shoot Secret to help with fuel quality and lubricates my pump with there lx4 additive.
Love love my lml don't even want to add a tuner, I am thinking about the pedal monster from banks to improve throttle response times.
Did changing to the fox shocks take away the front end bounce going over speed bumps?
@@jasonlovell3934 I'm very happy with the front end with these shocks. Go over the big speed bumps drastically changed. And at higher speed you can feel a big difference. Also I just changed to Mickey Thompson Baja Boss AT. And wow my ride is even smoother over the toyo Open Country at 2.
Really want to get a full lift kit to see how it rides with fox shocks & Baja Boss AT.
Thanks for the reply
@@jasonlovell3934 check me out on TH-cam I'll be putting new vids up with my duramax and my trucks again soon
Ranchero 9500 ‘s took my bounce away also.Over pass highways bounced front end like 6 bounces before.Now it’s like 1 soft and a lift then smooth if you know what I mean.Set them at 6 I think.There’s an adjustable knob on them.Real nice for a c-note each.Some dude is traveling all around the world in his overland truck now for 3-4 years with them.I think one of the rears leaked on him this year.That’s got to be like over 5 years just normal on road driving if yah think about it lol
Just picked up a '16 with 80k. Moving up from a f150 5.0. no conparison. Pulls my dump trailer loaded to the gills with a smile.
I love the look of these older body style trucks... the engineers though are dumb asses... you go to the gas station for the DEF fill you use the filling nozzle... try getting that thing under the hood in that space. Talk about knuckle busters. I never knew it was located under the hood. Thanks for showing me that 🤣 another great review for the books brother. I love your enthusiasm and honesty man. Besides our back and forth between videos it’s what keeps me coming back. Your excitement when you discover these things makes me laugh along side of you because I’m learning as well. Keep it up brougham 👍🏾
I agree, imagine when you’re done filing the tank, the leftover running all over the place 😵!
I appreciate the support and enjoying when you comment 👍🏾
2007.5 LMM with 260k/deleted and tuned still pulling strong.
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Nice towing video. I don’t have any issues with my exhaust brake at all. Thanks for sharing JD, I enjoyed the video.
Thanks Ric, the exhaust brake isn’t as strong as I hoped but truck has tons of power!
Nice video. That black truck looked good in front of your trailer.
What you said about the power is exactly why I think a lot of these just ridiculous power numbers they have now come at certain conditions. Because just the eye test with the acceleration looked comparable to the 2017 Ford that had much more power on paper.
It really did, I still think this is the best body style for GMC! The power is hard to gauge because these trucks have gotten so dang heavy... I’m planning on posting the 2020 Silverado Duramax this week! Thanks for sharing Matthew 👍🏾
I look forward to seeing that one and getting your perspective on its performance. I don’t particularly have anything to compare mine to with real personal experience. At least not apples to apples. I’ve towed with an LML 2016 Dually but it was a flatbed and had about 4000 pounds of pressure washing equipment plus an 18’ enclosed trailer that weighed about 10,000 pounds total. It handled it like a champ but would top out at about 65 mph on about an 8% grade hitting it at 55 and then going WOT. So not a fair comparison because my truck will just fly up that same grade with my trailer.
Anyways the trucks are very heavy. Based off the payload numbers my truck is around about 200-300 pounds heavier than that one. Mine is a 10000 GVWR too you know and has 1802 payload I think.
Well let’s just say the truck only had like 3000 miles and wasn’t quite broken in 😅...
Hmmm. That’s interesting.
Yea I feel like the truck didn’t have full power like the GMC I tested did
Looking at newer trucks from my old '90 F250.
Those backup cameras are friggin cheating for lining up with the hitch. I used to put a magnetic stick of the top of the hitch and in front of the ball.
Just try to get them close.
I had a 2018 Sierra with 85,000 km,that thing hauled ass with a 8000# trailer. Loved it.
It really does lol, I thought this truck had a tune on it 👍🏾
@@JB_WhoWork I traded it in for a 2019 Ram 2500. I'm loving the RAM. I'm wondering if it's just me, or does the Cummins some more like a truck compared to the duramax? I love the sound of a Diesel truck lol
I think the Cummins sound stronger in comparison to the V8 diesels especially when towing 👍🏾
The DEF fill under the hood is not convenient but it prevents morons from putting the DEF in the fuel tank.
😂😂😂 true!!!
How is it running now? Any problems? . Mine is 100k miles now... no problems
I’m a Ford guy, but I’ve been considering an LML solely based on how much more expensive the used Fords still are in comparison. Not a ton of newer ones on the market where I’m at and the ones that are either have a ton of miles or are still too new and expensive
I just bought a 2013 chevy silverado 2500HD 6.6L LML Duramax. It has 145,000 miles. I'm going to add a Air Dog 100 gpm lift pump and use Lucas fuel conditioner (slightly over treated) in the fuel. Also l plan to keep my fuel tank full. Once I get to 3/4 on the gage I'll fill up. I'm going to do everything l can to protect that CP4. Because I bought it used l have no way to know if it has ever been replaced. Also I plan to always keep the DEF tank full as well. I had the cooling system flushed, transmission fluid changed with filter. I'm going to do the T-case and diff's in the spring. I did buy a super chips dash mounted tuned to check for codes and monitor things like the injectors and boost. I'm not going to download any tune Into the trucks computer. If 397hp and 765pft isn't enough, l don't know what to tell ya.
I have a friend with LML CP4 with 300k miles on it, 0 issues. I have a LML with CP4 with almost 200k, 0 issues. I do run fuel additive once every 5k to keep everything lubricated. I just use a 2 cycle synthetic oil or Marvin’s Mystery Oil, but I don’t have DEF System.
Would like more info on the spreadsheet at the beginning of video
My 06 LBZ has over 200k on it. We tow a fifth wheel. Last trip of 650 miles each way was 12.7 mpg with the fifth wheel.
Wow that is awesome, thanks for sharing bro 👍🏾
Strange to see the exact truck I owned. Same color and interior. Would have kept it if I hadn't traded for a heavier 5th wheel. Not quiet to Ram standards in torque but mine only had 25k when I sold it. Ram equals industrial, Denali equals refined.
Ha someone else mentioned they had this truck plus my trailer lol! The IFS on the GM trucks feel a little too soft for my taste but the power is pretty strong, thanks for sharing 👍🏾
I have a 2006 4x4 duramax 375000 still running strong
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What’s with the snow where are you. No snow up here in Canada.
Lol this video is probably a month old 👍🏾
The 2020 has better towing capability for sure!
They have a new wide body charger in OD green with the 392 and a pro charger kit for sale at my local dealer. I didn’t think ide like the Olive drab green but once I saw it in person I fell in love 😍. If I didn’t have so much money tied up ide buy it 😅
I know, that color is pretty nice! I wonder how much power the pro charger kit adds 🤔
@@JB_WhoWork they say 150hp for the 392. Hell I almost considered putting on on my truck 😂
Edit: correction, on there site it says 200/215HP gain 😳
Oh wow... that is a lot of power!!! How much? The truck could always use a boost 😁
@@JB_WhoWork it’s like 15k installed
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100% agree with what you said duramax get better with age.
I have 253k on my 11 lml dually and I don’t hesitate to tow with it. Deleted at 205k and fixin to do head gaskets and put studs in while I’m in there.
💪🏾💪🏾💪🏾 I always hear RAM’s going high on mileage so glad to see the Duramax getting in the mileage, thanks for sharing 👍🏾
@@JB_WhoWork shooting for 500k
Let us know when you get there 👍🏾
I thought the exhaust brakes were good, but I don't have experience with any others than gm.
Just bought a 2013 Chevy Silverado 2500HD LT 6.6L Duramax. Loving the truck, scared about the CP4.
Do the cp3 conversion or use fuel additive how is it holding now ?
@Jonatan P
Using Lucas fuel treatment. Replace fuel filter twice a year. Spring and fall. Truck gets parked for winter. Oil change every 3,000 miles
@@waynejohnson3388 nice 👏 how many miles does it have now ? I’m picking up a Sierra 2500 dura Max tomorrow hyped about it all except the cp4🤣
@Jonatan P 153,000 miles. I deleted it. MPG went from 14 to 23mpg. I also deleted the PVC, it vents to atmosphere now. Since the delete, no more DEF. 4 inch stainless steel exhaust with muffler. Since the delete the oil stays clean, don't turn black.
@Jonatan P as for the cp4, I use Lucas fuel treatment, keep my fuel filter fresh, keep my tank full at all times and never buy fuel on a rainy day. Doing everything l can to keep water out. Also when u stop for fuel, ensure the pump handle is clean and dry.
80,000 and it’s going great ( 2016 )
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awesome review…
i’m about to jump into a 15 with 140k miles…
im excited as hell now…!!!
Thanks, you won’t be disappointed 👍🏾
My 2008 silverado 1500 pulls a 12000 pound boat good, it may not be llagal but the truck has no problem towing it, I go from 15 mpg highway to 8 mpg, works fine for me I only fish the weekends, pulls it out of a 37 degree ramp, where I live diesels are not practical for the cold months, my brother inlaw has a diesel wich won't start unless it's plugged in for 2 hrs wich is useless in the cold months, all trucks can pull well beyond what they are rated for it just takes a well skilled driver
I have a 2015 GMC 2500hd that’s tuned deleted and I my exhaust break works very well! I wonder why that one is weak?
I wonder if you deleting it helped it🤔
Which tune company did you go with? The tuner i went with seemed to reduce the brake effectiveness
Should I buy a 2021 Ram or a Chevy/GMC? I’m towing a 35 foot travel trailer 8,000 lbs empty. I’m going 1 ton.
Depends on which one you feel most comfortable with and the deal you can get. I personally love the RAM because of the Cummins/Aisin configuration. I believe this powertrain is the most bullet proof currently 👍🏾
I have a 21 Chevy ltz duramax and love it. There was some things that drew me to Chevy like auto 4wd and independent front suspension and the comfort. Bottom line go out drive both and make your decision you can’t go wrong with ether of them.
You will exceed the GVWR first before the rear GAWR.
Yup!
JB how do you test the brake control?
I pull the switch to the right on the dash, I will demonstrate this in a video later on 👍🏾
@@JB_WhoWork it would be nice if you can do a video of how to properly set the number on your brake controller
Funny I just thought look for tuner switch 😊
I got a old dmax 2003 pulls 10,000lbs like nothing with 200k miles
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For real world exhaust brake, check out this video on TH-cam "2016 Chevy Silverado 2500 HD Midnight Z71 Super Ike Gauntlet" at 1:45. They come down the 7% grade of I70 in Colorado towing 12,700 pounds with this 2016 Duramax engine. Using the exhaust brake and cruise control they don't touch the brakes. I don't think that using your ears is the best test of an exhaust brake. It works differently than Ram's, but it does work well.
Yea man I am with you. Allison is hands down the best there is. But the motor, Cummins man, Cummins is strong as hell and will last forever.
I agree, all RAM has to do is mate that Cummins in front of an Allison and we will have us a MOPAR that will truly be hard to beat 🤘🏾! Hope all is well brother 👍🏾
I personally own a powerstroke,but my 18 wheeler has a 15L cummins 950,xxx miles this year we will probably turn around 1.3-1.4million miles by year end.
Oh theirs a 6.7 powerstroke 2011 I believe on powerstroke talk he’s a master ford tech he just had a 6.7 powerstroke come in with 1.3 million miles from New Mexico think it’s had a few turbos aside from that everything original.
200k doses it say how many times it was in the shop for emissions break down
It does not, probably only way to know is if you figure out who serviced it 👍🏾
I have a landscaping business and I switched back to gas truck because of the emissions on the diesels
It is 4:35 where I am at
Why do you shift the truck into park so hard like kinda rough in the truck
Are you in md?
Yes
Nice me to enjoy the videos
Thanks bro 👍🏾
200,000 miles on any diesel is really nothing. That thing is just broken in.
Hey no offense to no one , but 200k is NOT high mileage on a diesel engine, as comparison , back home ( Costarica ) 80% of cars , trucks are diesel engines , so the same Toyota Corolla you see here with gas engine back home have a 2.4 diesel engine and have been running for years same engine some 500k plus miles and that’s for a simple corolla , don’t let me start talking about Toyota Hilux, Isuzu Dmax, vw amarok Etc etc , the market place here and USA want us to buy gas vehicles because after 150k miles or so you need to replace it where as on well maintained diesel engines they run FOREVER , don’t believe me .. ask 18 wheel drivers …. Good luck guys
The only thing with the transmission is GM's calibrations ruin it..
There is a good TH-cam video out about putting the Allison behind any diesel and they get a million miles on them with no issues in a medium duty truck but not in a Chevrolet because of the calibrations these sissies wanted their trucks to shift like cars and that ruins the alison transmission...
Thanks for sharing 👍🏾
@@JB_WhoWork you are welcome.