Was LeBron ROBBED of The Greatest Season Ever?

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  • @BoskoShabazz
    @BoskoShabazz ปีที่แล้ว +2326

    If he won the DPOY that’s easily top 3 seasons of all time. Hakeem’s 94 might be the singular best season ever

    • @ElliotScottDating
      @ElliotScottDating ปีที่แล้ว +129

      I can name 4 seasons just from jordan that are better than 2013 lebron.

    • @JoshSmith-jq9tw
      @JoshSmith-jq9tw ปีที่แล้ว +87

      Jordan's 88 season was the best. Don't believe me? Look it up

    • @altered5300
      @altered5300 ปีที่แล้ว +499

      @@ElliotScottDatingJordan’s good but you can’t deny that this season wouldve been one of the greatest if he won dpoy. Stop being a Lebron hater

    • @BoskoShabazz
      @BoskoShabazz ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@ElliotScottDating ok 👍🏾

    • @BoskoShabazz
      @BoskoShabazz ปีที่แล้ว +142

      @@JoshSmith-jq9tw didn’t know the bulls won the title that year. They even make it to the conference finals at least? Rhetorical question of course.

  • @Minimal444
    @Minimal444 ปีที่แล้ว +1371

    People underrate LeBron's defensive ability nowadays. What made him insane on that end was the ability to guard all 5 positions.

    • @phenomenal-fitness
      @phenomenal-fitness ปีที่แล้ว +67

      Yeah right 😂😂😂. What great PF or Center did he guard consistently?

    • @sumnahlennon5449
      @sumnahlennon5449 ปีที่แล้ว +76

      Lebron is a good defender. Not the best. Not close to being top. And no, Lebron didnt guard great Centers or Power Forwards on a consistent basis

    • @tooth-bones
      @tooth-bones ปีที่แล้ว +19

      He was good for being help defender and that's the fact 😂

    • @shemgilbert1991
      @shemgilbert1991 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      Not really, sure there are players who can guard all 5 positions but not an elite player at every position. LeBron has never locked up superstars at the one or five

    • @shemgilbert1991
      @shemgilbert1991 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      ​@@sumnahlennon5449prime lamarcus Aldridge cooks him

  • @JamesMiller-lb3sk
    @JamesMiller-lb3sk ปีที่แล้ว +712

    This is true for Jokic. Voter fatigue is a very real thing in the NBA

    • @youdontknowme2675
      @youdontknowme2675 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      MJ went through it and Lebron. Doesn’t stop his greatness

    • @1234jokerboy
      @1234jokerboy ปีที่แล้ว +28

      Actually he was locked for his 3 Rd consecutive one then Perkins happened. And Jokic stopped playing the rest of the season seriously to focus for the playoffs

    • @Afineaddition
      @Afineaddition ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Embiid and Giannis were doing better than him

    • @adityajhamb6673
      @adityajhamb6673 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Jokic is an amazing player and we saw that in the playoffs too. But we all know it would've been robbery if a man who averaged 33/10/5.

    • @JamesMiller-lb3sk
      @JamesMiller-lb3sk ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@adityajhamb6673 That true, but I called a fake MVP because he choked in the playoffs. He could not stop Tatum in game 7 to ave his life

  • @Gabriel-sh3ms
    @Gabriel-sh3ms ปีที่แล้ว +352

    I honestly think Lebron deserved DPOY in 2012 over Chandler. Led the league in Defensive Box Plus Minus, 2nd in Defensive Win Shares, (Chandler was not no.1), 8th in Defensive Rating (higher than Chandler. His team was 4th in defensive rating whilst the Knicks were 5th. Those are pretty much every single defensive stat that exists and Lebron was higher than Chandler in all of them. If Gasol deserved in 2012 because of his numbers than Lebron deserved it in 2012 for his numbers. Numbers were the reason why Giannis won it in 2020 over Davis after all

    • @roundtable3501
      @roundtable3501 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      None of those are defensive stats, besides team defensive rating. Individual defensive rating is just part of the team stat. Most of those are subjective formulas created that have large margin of errors. I don’t think one should use them at all and just look at a person’s actual defense. Lebron wasn’t a top 3 defender in 2012. Gasol, Garnett, or Howard all had a better case for winning it. Lebron just didn’t have the rim protection to be good enough. I do agree that chandler didn’t deserve it. And in 2020, neither Davis or Giannis should’ve won it, Gobert should’ve.

    • @YoungShadTv
      @YoungShadTv ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@roundtable3501 an Chandler wasn't a good perimeter defender

    • @Max-ys3xg
      @Max-ys3xg 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

      Gasol, Garnett, and Howard were all better rim protectors than Bron but none of them could guard perimeter players like Bron and it wasn't like Bron couldn't defend the rim. Bron in 2012 was the best all-around defender in the league hands down.

    • @awesomereviews1561
      @awesomereviews1561 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      No, he didn’t deserve it at all. Here are the advance stats. For LBJ: Defensive rating 49th, Defensive Win/Share 8th, Defensive Box Plus Minus 5th. Now for Gasol: dRtg 5th, D W/S 2nd, DBPM 1st. That wasn’t even close

    • @孩子們孩子們
      @孩子們孩子們 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      This ☝️ People only talk about this season because Marc Gasol didn't make first team all defense. He probably had a better defensive season in 2012, but I feel like nobody remembers the 2012 season in general very mucb

  • @c.n.i7105
    @c.n.i7105 ปีที่แล้ว +305

    If I remember correctly, Grizzlies defensive scheme was to defend the opposing players and drive them towards Gasol. Thus, Marc was quite the anchor on his team and his defensive value derived not from him blocking or stealing balls, but rather by contesting shots, where his bulky 7 foot frame body was quite good at

    • @mentalprograming5365
      @mentalprograming5365 ปีที่แล้ว +55

      yeah and? indiana did that with hibbert.. knicks did that with tyson chandler..bulls did that with joakim noah..and? lebron was guarding pau gasol in the post.. carlos boozer in the post.. at times guarding roy hibbert and marc gasol.. facts..

    • @AlmostDarkness
      @AlmostDarkness ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@mentalprograming5365LeBron’s Heat were pulling off the scheme that Butler and Bam’s Heat would use many years later during the NBA Finals against Jokic. It’s very clearly effective, even with as few lockdown defenders they have now, the Bucks also used this and have been a top level defensive team with Giannis since like 2018 or so.

    • @tiktokexposed898
      @tiktokexposed898 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      True, but lebron was better defensively that year. he was robbed of DPOY

    • @AlmostDarkness
      @AlmostDarkness ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I’m saying that because of LeBron they did stuff ahead of their time, because he was able to pull off things that only players like Giannis, and maybe a young Kawhi could pull off.

    • @Spider-Complexion
      @Spider-Complexion ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I read somewhere that this was the kind of all-time defensive impact that Bill Russell had for his teams. Bill’s teammates could play overly aggressive because anyone who drove by them to the rim wouldn’t be looking at the rim, they’d be looking out for Bill Russell. I think it was his wiki or his book “Russell Rules.” I can’t remember where exactly, unfortunately.

  • @randyjavierpenaloflorian1700
    @randyjavierpenaloflorian1700 ปีที่แล้ว +320

    This is why I pick Lebron, he faced a LOT of preassure from almost everyone, but still delivered...

    • @daronross7876
      @daronross7876 ปีที่แล้ว

      You sound so dumb

    • @sumnahlennon5449
      @sumnahlennon5449 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      Lebron fabricated that pressure by constantly going on social media and causing stir ups. 2003-2015, Lebron got next to know media criticism with the exception of when he jumped to Miami. But even so, that was brief.
      In 2016 when Lebron got more active on social media there was negativity. Funny enough, most Lebron fans only just started watching NBA in 2016 and act like nothing happened before that

    • @17an28
      @17an28 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@sumnahlennon5449delusion.

    • @elijahwilliams3728
      @elijahwilliams3728 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      he created a superteam... he should deliver if I said the same thing about kd...

    • @dathoang2692
      @dathoang2692 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      a grown man get pay millions and complaint about facing pressure. please

  • @juwanrigby1924
    @juwanrigby1924 ปีที่แล้ว +241

    1 vote to Carmelo and he lost dpoy to the nikka who was second team when bron was first you literally can’t make this up
    I still gone say this one of the best seasons of all time.

    • @QuavoGotFame
      @QuavoGotFame ปีที่แล้ว +31

      We were robbed of the greatest season of all time by a single player

    • @suntansuperman26
      @suntansuperman26 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I mean yes you can make it up Chandler won DPOY the year before and didn’t make All Defensive First Team either. Mutombo and Robertson both were second team when they won DPOY as well in the 90’s and 80’s respectively

    • @d_rod3
      @d_rod3 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      I can't believe the video didn't even include the fact that there were TWO 1st team all NBA centers that season due to a tie in first place votes. Gasol was voted the THIRD best defender at his position and didn't even rightfully make the 2nd team. Bron not winning DPOY is a joke

    • @d_rod3
      @d_rod3 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@suntansuperman26Gasol didn't even rightfully make all 2nd team. Voted 3rd best at his position. Stop it.

  • @Job.Well.Done_01
    @Job.Well.Done_01 ปีที่แล้ว +315

    Prime LeBron was certified diamond.
    A joy to watch!

    • @3rr1k_
      @3rr1k_ ปีที่แล้ว +22

      he still is

    • @ViceAdmiralVasilyArkhipov
      @ViceAdmiralVasilyArkhipov 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Facts

    • @bokjrincanada7891
      @bokjrincanada7891 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      especially the flops,haha

    • @karinaabluuey
      @karinaabluuey 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      ​@@bokjrincanada7891
      haters gon hate but lebron would cook all of us in the comments by 50 points

    • @kylekylelam3870
      @kylekylelam3870 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@bokjrincanada7891 Oh yeah stay in your era, bye.

  • @infinitymixtapes9562
    @infinitymixtapes9562 ปีที่แล้ว +169

    People forget that season was right after winning MVP, Finals MVP, and a gold medal at the Olympics

    • @taylorgordon2696
      @taylorgordon2696 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      His the goat

    • @tooth-bones
      @tooth-bones ปีที่แล้ว +8

      ​​@@taylorgordon2696" Greatest Of All Turnovers " ?

    • @lookatzay4813
      @lookatzay4813 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      @@tooth-bones lame

    • @John-gz5mz
      @John-gz5mz ปีที่แล้ว +28

      @@tooth-bones bro thought he did something

    • @blazedoutlaw6633
      @blazedoutlaw6633 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      @@tooth-bonesYou tried

  • @o.o.o.o.o2969
    @o.o.o.o.o2969 ปีที่แล้ว +78

    "His importance to the New York Knicks" is the most disgusting argument in existence and I hate that people consistently make this argument when it comes to MVP voting. Lebron James unquestionably had a better season and probably would've been more valuable to the Knicks than Melo had he been on them. Punishing him for having a good team is so dumb

    • @oscarschoenmaker931
      @oscarschoenmaker931 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      V true if I was on a team of babies in the nba I would be way more valuable to that team than lebron is to his team but I shouldn’t get mvp because I would put up 0 0 0 0 0

  • @lucaso1579
    @lucaso1579 ปีที่แล้ว +237

    Didn’t Giannis won MVP and DPOY the same season too?

    • @markjones2518
      @markjones2518 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Yeah in the NBA bubble

    • @prodlonglivemir
      @prodlonglivemir ปีที่แล้ว

      hows that any different@@markjones2518

    • @ChristopherEl-Khouri
      @ChristopherEl-Khouri ปีที่แล้ว +92

      yes but that was like 6-7 years after lebrons run and also if media was actually smart, Lebron would’ve been the first to win unanimous mvp and dpoy in the same season

    • @Nickgonelie
      @Nickgonelie ปีที่แล้ว +24

      @@markjones2518bro they gave him mvp strictly for what he did before the bubble they even said on tv multiple times. Get it right

    • @billycrystal6791
      @billycrystal6791 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I think he meant up to that point but the script didn't communicate that

  • @mash2481
    @mash2481 ปีที่แล้ว +212

    All-time leading scorer, with over 39,000 pts, and counting, will finish top three in assists, four championships, including one against the regular season win record holder. Probably the greatest player ever. I know I’ll never see anyone break his record.

    • @MrAkhereo
      @MrAkhereo ปีที่แล้ว +15

      I will break the record

    • @replusion3839
      @replusion3839 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      ​@@MrAkhereoblud is not making it to nba💀

    • @SolaceMcfly
      @SolaceMcfly ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The only current player who can touch it is Luka if he has the longevity and stays healthy

    • @awesomereviews1561
      @awesomereviews1561 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Longevity stats

    • @flamingdoge6242
      @flamingdoge6242 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      That LeBrongevity is legendary. My 🐐

  • @mosquitojoyride
    @mosquitojoyride ปีที่แล้ว +41

    Media voting is still leaps better than voting by fans, players, and even coaches. Have you seen who the players voted for in awards? Thats right, their own teammates. When media gets it wrong it’s not as egregious as the other three.

    • @shade0180
      @shade0180 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      True same with the coaches. They won't even vote someone they don't like even if it's clear cut better.

    • @mosquitojoyride
      @mosquitojoyride ปีที่แล้ว

      Exactly there aren't any better alternatives. All this media bashing and I don't see a better process. Obviously not perfect but they get it way more right than not; and if they get it wrong it's not terribly wrong, it usually goes to someone that definitely has a case. I'm a big Lebron fan and yeah I thought Lebron deserved to win the DMVP due to the # of positions and versatility but I recall reading all kinds of articles and stats that year arguing for Gasol and they were great points. The media is the best balance of bias (least) and being knowledeable@@shade0180

    • @easylife6348
      @easylife6348 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Nba headquarters should vote

  • @Mt554.
    @Mt554. ปีที่แล้ว +295

    Miami lebron is the most complete basketball player ever

    • @Hains22
      @Hains22 ปีที่แล้ว +38

      2018 Bron was more confident

    • @Marzchaix
      @Marzchaix ปีที่แล้ว +36

      @@Hains22also played all 82 games I believe. That was the most hungry LeBron ever was imo

    • @mangobananana
      @mangobananana ปีที่แล้ว +15

      too bad he cried in front of coughing Dirk

    • @ElliotScottDating
      @ElliotScottDating ปีที่แล้ว +11

      2011 disagrees

    • @joseadanuleriogonzalez7036
      @joseadanuleriogonzalez7036 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@mangobananana2011 ≠ 2013

  • @Jay_FS
    @Jay_FS ปีที่แล้ว +26

    2013 Bron was the most exciting version of defense I can personally remember.

  • @ParamoreFAV3
    @ParamoreFAV3 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    There’s no way the NBA doesn’t hate this man. There’s no way they gave that to Gasol

    • @prince-bm4xt
      @prince-bm4xt 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Not only the nba. Fans hate on bron just as much and it’s extremely sad.

  • @C2Poke
    @C2Poke 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Individual awards in pro sports should never be entrusted to the media. The media is too narrative driven. In 2013, they didn't care about the fact that Lebron most deserving of DPOY and unanimous MVP. They would get more mileage out of depriving him of those achievements than they would have if they had done the right thing. It's a travesty how the media marred one of the top-3 greatest individual seasons of all-time.

    • @AnonymousKD17
      @AnonymousKD17 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      They were protecting MJ legacy , they knew lebron was coming for goat status

  • @Hains22
    @Hains22 ปีที่แล้ว +57

    I often defend Bron in GOAT debates. But, whenever someone brings up the 11’ Finals, I have no rebuttal 😂

    • @yoofij4724
      @yoofij4724 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      I do.
      Miami was leading 2-1 and we're up for most of game 4 when Lebron had those measly stats. So the stats aren't the real problem here.
      And people say d wade was going to be fmvp, but he should never have even been able to think that. Those miami teams were best with Lebron leading them, and wade even acknowledged this after the 11 finals.
      Watch the games. That series wasn't even his worst choke job ever, let alone THE worst choke ever.

    • @yoofij4724
      @yoofij4724 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      BTW, I don't think Lebron is the GOAT

    • @uberexpress4268
      @uberexpress4268 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Yeah, but IMO the 16’ finals makes up for it if not MORE than makes up for it.

    • @ElliotScottDating
      @ElliotScottDating ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Exactly. The fact that they literally lost bc of him took him out of the debate. How you gonna say you're the best ever when you were a game ahead and had wade and bosh avg 27 and 24 and still lose to a single all star? Especially when mj never had a bad series series his entire career

    • @lookatzay4813
      @lookatzay4813 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      @@ElliotScottDating because people don’t hold grudges like you, we look at the full career and not 1 moment

  • @jayk6194
    @jayk6194 ปีที่แล้ว +58

    Gasol was robbed of 1st all defensive team, not the other way around.

    • @MangoTroubles-007
      @MangoTroubles-007 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      You must be great at parties

    • @abelplays9237
      @abelplays9237 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Agree

    • @phenomenal-fitness
      @phenomenal-fitness ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I agree

    • @Truthorfib
      @Truthorfib ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Gasol was barely even 2nd team all defense. it's a pipe dream that he would be first. They just didnt want to lose the DPOY argument in the GOAT debate. If Jordan was never born, Lebron would get more awards cause the Jordan fans who are voters wouldn't have a reason to rob him of accolades.

    • @abelplays9237
      @abelplays9237 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Truthorfib Riding LeDick

  • @alessiodaniotti264
    @alessiodaniotti264 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    Playing with other great defenders could be also a cons: if a player is the main defender of his team, the team stats are more unbalanced in his favour, while playig with other defensive players can be a damage to the indiviual stats, since the defensive actions are "spread out" to more players.
    If Gasol made this stats while having "competition" in his own roster, then those stats are more remarkable, plus being the key player in a superior defensive team is itself another pros for the award. And the plus/minus stat is a sort of measurement of the defensive efficiency DESPITE the other players.
    And for the fact that he won DPOY but didn't make 1st defensive team, this is not a news: DPOY is based on votes on the single player and nothing more, and is a "everybody vs everybody" ranking, while the voting for the All-defensive team the comparison are based on roles. This means that if in the DPOY there are many players on similar roles, in the All-def team for that role they face more competitions and lose points. Practically speaking, Someone can vote for Gasol as 1st individually, giving him an edge on DPOY rankings, but in the defensive team he put Gasol as C or PF, and LBJ as SF, giving them the same points for All-def-team voting. And someone else that voted for LBJ or another Big , when voting the defensive team, didn't put Gasol as C or PF.
    In the specif case, in 2013 the first 6 spots of the DPOY rankings were 4 big men (Gasol, Ibaka, Noah, Duncan), while LeBron was the only SF as main role and Tony Allen the only Guard. This means a nearly sure presence of LBJ and Allen in the All-def team, while the votes for C and PF where more spread out, mostly between the 4 above. (The Point Guard of the selection was Chris Paul, 9th in the DPOY).
    The same thing could happen also for the Season MVP vs All-NBA team voting, and actually that happens 3 times: in 1961 and 62 Bill Russell won the Season MVP, but in the All-NBA 1st team as center he was behind Wilt Chamberlain, and in 1973 Dave Cowens won MVP, but as C for the All-NBA 1st team Kareem get more votes.
    Again the reason was the higher competion for the specific role in the team voting.
    I find it simple to understand, there is no reason to call it a scandal

    • @YoMrRice
      @YoMrRice ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Amazing comment that expertly breaks down how voting and awards work.
      Only thing I'll dispute is the likelihood of an MVP in the modern era not also making 1st team is nearly impossible. Russell won all of his mvps over Wilt due to the Celtics being the best team in the league and no ther reason. Players actually voted for mvp and I think it's safe to say that players definitely shouldn't be voting for any awards...especially pre-internet and access to footage and stats.

    • @tiktokexposed898
      @tiktokexposed898 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      it wasnt a scandal but lebron was definitely robbed. best season ever for any NBA player

    • @alessiodaniotti264
      @alessiodaniotti264 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@tiktokexposed898
      "It wasn't a scandal but he was robbed"... same as "it wasn't a hurricane, but the storm destroyed the town"...
      1 HE WAS NOT ROBBED: LBJ was a serious contender for DPOY, Marc was too, and other were too (Ibaka, Noah, Duncan, Allen).
      And guess what? There is no defensive stats where LBJ was the best, and as the video showed, Marc was better than him in most of them. Plus a votation was made to choose, and Gasol win... and LBJ was not as close as the video pictures: yes, he was second in voting, but taking into account the points of votations (where the voters rank 3 players, and the most higher a player is ranked from one voter, the more point he gain for the overall ranking) LBJ (149 pts) was closer to the spots from 3 (Ibaka, 122pts) to 7 (Larry Sanders, 90 pts) than he was to Gasol at 1st (212 pts).
      2 the great season and the lack of DPOY are not related, having a great overall years doesn't grant someone any awards he want to win.
      For the great season overall the award was the MVP, and James won and deserve it, as it deserved to be in the 1st All NBA and All defensive 1st team because for most he was the best player TO PUT AS SMALL FOWARD, but nothing else was granted for DPOY, since many big mens were there too.
      And personally i think him winning MVP but not DPOY was quite logic... some good defensive highliths and the versatility doesn't make you the best defender of the league, and for both Miami and James the real stregth was the offence.

    • @tiktokexposed898
      @tiktokexposed898 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @alessiodaniotti264 Lebron wasn't just good he was elite defensively. One of the most versatile defenders ever. And of course he should've been unanimous MVP. Nobody else was as close to as good as him. So yes he was robbed of the greatest season ever. He should've won every award

    • @jake8748
      @jake8748 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      ​@alessiodaniotti264 no Gasol was a centre. He was DPoTY which means the best individual player in the league that season. So how does it make sense that he wasn't the best centre in defence that season? If he's a better centre then all the others, he is first team all def. If he's 2nd team that means another centre was better defensively than him that year.
      The only thing that makes this happen was having different voters for different awards. Different voters prioritise different metrics for what they think. DPoTY being a media award meant it went to the best story for the season (so the grizzlies that season and Marc was the best individual for that team). When it came to those actually involved in the game they gave the awards to the ones who gave them most trouble or required plans around them etc.

  • @bentorres-betgaming
    @bentorres-betgaming ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great video. As a basketball fan we gotta get rid of media voting. Or at least lessen it and make it like all star voting where the media is only part of the decision.

  • @edgewoodaldridge
    @edgewoodaldridge 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    1:52 “Look at Kidd staying in front of him” as if Shawn Marion and Dirk aren’t standing right there 🤣😂🤣🤣

  • @raheeluppal323
    @raheeluppal323 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Kevin Hart catching strays 😂

  • @jostew8846
    @jostew8846 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Imagine, graduating at the top of your class but having the 6th highest GPA at your class.

  • @jayk6194
    @jayk6194 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    People keep forgetting that Shawn Marion used to guard Tony Parker to Tim Duncan and thinks LeBron is the first player to guard PG to C.

    • @ryanespiritu1554
      @ryanespiritu1554 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      But Shawn Marion can't defend 4s and 5s

    • @dwaynenewman4968
      @dwaynenewman4968 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Tim is a pf

    • @jayk6194
      @jayk6194 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ryanespiritu1554 What? TD was 4. He was given that assignment because Spurs didn't really have 5 and defending TD was a tougher assignment.

    • @jayk6194
      @jayk6194 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@dwaynenewman4968 That's because TD was bigger lower post threat than other SA's Cs.

    • @amanidlaw
      @amanidlaw 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Difference is one is arguably greatest offensive player of all time and the other is not even close

  • @jvlicious
    @jvlicious ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Started following because of basketball, staying for the high quality production every time 💪 You guys keep up the great work!

  • @ginovillaluz1210
    @ginovillaluz1210 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    the most brutal point in this video is the unforeseen violence sent Kevin Hart's way

  • @mattatack2the25
    @mattatack2the25 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Well written and excellent fair. Great work!

  • @YvngGoat_
    @YvngGoat_ ปีที่แล้ว +11

    The NBA tryna keep the agenda of having Jordan on top

    • @TellenJones
      @TellenJones ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Sure... It must be Jordan's fault that Lebron choked in 2011 finals or set NBA final record on losing margin per game in 2014, right?

  • @ElliotScottDating
    @ElliotScottDating ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Wait so when jordan wins dpoy, a scoring title, a ring, fmvp, an mvp, all defense team, avg 30+, and didnt have another 20 ppg helper it doesnt count as one of the best seasons ever? 😅

    • @JoshSmith-jq9tw
      @JoshSmith-jq9tw ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Lmao right

    • @nonstop
      @nonstop  ปีที่แล้ว +32

      The one year Jordan won MVP and DPOY he did not even make it to the finals.
      And the reason why we're saying LeBron's could of been the GOAT season (based on awards) is because of the fact that he was also 1 vote away from the first unanimous MVP.
      The real GOAT season (based on awards) goes to Hakeem's 1993-94 season.

    • @JoshSmith-jq9tw
      @JoshSmith-jq9tw ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@nonstop Just because Lebron wanted dpoy and many of you wanted it, doesn't mean he deserved it. Also i can't take this video seriously when you say Gasol had all the defensive help and Lebron didn't. Umm D Wade, Chalmers, Shane B, Chris Bosh???? That's more than sound defensive help.
      Btw if you also go by the eye test for that year, yeah Lebron was good on defense but it was nothing spectacular

    • @lhype1748
      @lhype1748 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      ⁠​⁠​⁠@@JoshSmith-jq9twlmao he was the best defender still in the league and d Wade was older and lazier, bosh lost a step, battier was hella old and slower

    • @thepoisonouspotato3631
      @thepoisonouspotato3631 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@nonstopdon’t forget Hakeem Olajuwon near perfect season 1994
      NBA Champion
      Finals MVP
      NBA MVP
      Defensive player of the year
      All NBA first team
      But was 3rd in scoring

  • @LeanLieutenant
    @LeanLieutenant ปีที่แล้ว +120

    Call me a conspiracy theorist but I think old sports media started to realize Lebron was going to challenge Jordan for the GOAT. And to protect their beloved MJ and his multi billion dollar Jordan brand they stopped voting for Lebron in awards.

    • @Milt-g4f
      @Milt-g4f ปีที่แล้ว +8

      🎯🎯🎯

    • @dylan9013
      @dylan9013 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

      That isn't much of a conspiracy theory anymore. It's pretty obvious now!

    • @cashmontoks
      @cashmontoks 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      That’s a reach. In 2015 and 16 Steph was deservedly mvp. 2017 Westbrook deserved it. From 2018 on wards other younger players like Gianni’s deserved it

    • @shonrobinson1742
      @shonrobinson1742 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Big 🧢 his whole career was planned from the beginning to try to trick people into believing he’s better than MJ but all real basketball fans knows that’s the biggest NBA lie ever

    • @dailymotivations0421
      @dailymotivations0421 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@cashmontoksare you that dumb? Are those three close enough to be arguably the GOAT over MJ? No. Media felt MJ's status was challenged enough by LeBron so they sabotaged him specifically. Like how can you not understand that 😂

  • @sauce7608
    @sauce7608 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    i understood the iverson vote because of what he had on his team but the melo vote was a joke😂😂😂..

    • @flaco8952
      @flaco8952 ปีที่แล้ว

      but who was the last scoring leader for the knicks?

    • @mylantaable
      @mylantaable ปีที่แล้ว +2

      That was to avange the ROY robbery. Melo was robbed clearly.

    • @asgerschmidt4376
      @asgerschmidt4376 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@mylantaabledefinitly wasnt a robbery

  • @yankeee_mOnkey
    @yankeee_mOnkey ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I love this type of content❤

  • @tanatswachifamba50
    @tanatswachifamba50 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love the videos my man, but what happened to the other channels

  • @Jeremy-vf7su
    @Jeremy-vf7su 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    His 2016 game saving chase down block in game 7 is better than a DPOY

  • @mccoyyoung3643
    @mccoyyoung3643 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    There was something about watching the NBA back in 2013 where it felt like no matter what the Heat were winning it all because LeBron was just that ridiculous

  • @yaboi97
    @yaboi97 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Today just got 10× better because NonStopSports uploaded

    • @natetreed3266
      @natetreed3266 ปีที่แล้ว

      Bro stop begging for likes ☠️

  • @ooh4751
    @ooh4751 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Highest game score of all time is Jordan in many seasons. He blows everybody out of the water. I think that’s the most accurate way to determine a dominant season over just awards.

  • @aldotheraider2471
    @aldotheraider2471 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Lebron James on the Miami Heat, he was TERRIFYING. I always felt Heat Lebron James was the best version of him, he was a beast all around and his defense was absolutely elite.

  • @gavilan355
    @gavilan355 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great video

  • @victorespino703
    @victorespino703 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Giannis literally won MVP and DPOY in the same season

    • @DM_ON_TELE_GRAM-Nonstop_YT
      @DM_ON_TELE_GRAM-Nonstop_YT ปีที่แล้ว

      ^^^Hey Fam, You Won.!👍👍

    • @Bigedub101
      @Bigedub101 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Did he win FMVP

    • @WhatAG23
      @WhatAG23 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Bigedub101the season after but yeah, and it was one of the best finals mvp performances of all time

  • @awesomereviews1561
    @awesomereviews1561 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    No, he didn’t deserve it at all. Here are the advance stats. For LBJ: Defensive rating 49th, Defensive Win/Share 8th, Defensive Box Plus Minus 5th. Now for Gasol: dRtg 5th, D W/S 2nd, DBPM 1st. That wasn’t even close.

  • @jaybee946
    @jaybee946 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    He didn't get robbed of DPOY. He was elite but not at a clear DPOY level. The Heat had only the 9th best defense in the league that year, and his own defensive on/off stats were solid but not the best in the league. Gasol, Duncan, Ibaka and Noah all had better defensive numbers that year than LeBron.

    • @revakriid
      @revakriid ปีที่แล้ว

      Chandler was better than Gasol that time. Memphis has a better defensive team than Knicks. He should be the DPOY then

    • @FreshmanFrenzy
      @FreshmanFrenzy ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Gasol Duncan ibaka and Noah at one point in time were all guarded effectively by lebron that year you know who else was… Derrick rose, Westbrook & John wall. Gasol Duncan ibaka and Noah protected the rim and guarded the bigs. Lebron that year protected the rim guarded the bigs and guarded the best guards as well AND did it in crunch time. That was the difference that year as to why he easily could’ve/should’ve won DPOY that year. He guarded every position at as high a level or higher than anyone else in the nba that year. Not to mention he didn’t have Tony Allen/Conley, Kawhi etc (1st, 2nd team or 3rd team All defensive teammates)

    • @dantewilliams7458
      @dantewilliams7458 ปีที่แล้ว

      Not true

    • @fyks669
      @fyks669 ปีที่แล้ว

      did you listen the vid

    • @cooperrush6474
      @cooperrush6474 ปีที่แล้ว

      Every reason you just stated for LeBron not winning it would also apply to Jordan when he robbed Hakeem of DPOY. That's the problem, the voters have always been biased towards big men but they made an exception for Mike and not for James.

  • @KillerTv90
    @KillerTv90 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The one voter who didn’t voted for Lebron was the Great Late Skip Bayless lol 😂

  • @MrEOM41
    @MrEOM41 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    So basically Kendrick Lamar and Lebron got robbed in 2013

    • @Mvrco2
      @Mvrco2 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      How Kendrick get robbed?

    • @WhatAG23
      @WhatAG23 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Mvrco2he lost to fucking Macklemore for Album of the Year bc the voters were racist

  • @multiyapples
    @multiyapples ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Informative video.

  • @Soldier979
    @Soldier979 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    MJ paid the voters to not vote for him to be dpoy and to vote for Melo 😂

    • @TellenJones
      @TellenJones ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Did MJ also pay Lebron to choke in 2011 and 2014 finals?

    • @persistentlypathetic6820
      @persistentlypathetic6820 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@TellenJonesLeBron didnt choke in 2014... Wade and Bosh were useless.... pretty much role players in that series against an absolutely GREAT Spurs team

    • @TellenJones
      @TellenJones ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@persistentlypathetic6820 Now you are making excuses and blame Lebron's teammates for his own failure. The so-called GREAT Spurs team had to spend 7 games to beat the 8th seed in round 1 and then ran into trouble against OKC until OKC's Ibaka out due to injury. Duncan was 37 and Ginobili was 36. Kawhi was a raw kid scoring only 14 pts a game. At the same time, Bosh was 29, Lebron 29 and Wade 31 so Heats definitely were in a better shape.
      Yeat against this Spurs team whose main players were either outta or not in their prime, Lebron not only lost but also set NBA final record on losing margin per game. Not even 2011 was this bad. That's Lebron's typical style for you. When he won, it's usually shaky. When he lost, it's usually a debacle. Dude ain't never GOAT.

    • @ranholic5027
      @ranholic5027 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@persistentlypathetic6820 i guess MJ paid lebron to be raped by Barea and terry in the finals right?

    • @Max-ys3xg
      @Max-ys3xg 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Choke in the 2014 finals? You have to be in an alternate reality to think that. You might be the FIRST person I've ever seen say that the 2014 loss was on Bron and I've talked to a shit ton of Bron haters. You do realize, in that series out of 5 games, Lebron lead in scoring in 4 of those games and avged 28/7/4 on 57% FG and 51% from 3. He was also shooting 80% from the foul line that series and played absolutely spectacular defense on Ginobili, Parker, and even sometimes Duncan. Wade and Bosh both played terrible that series and the Spurs hit an insane 47% of the threes they took (highest in NBA history btw). I remember after the finals even Skip Bayless couldn't blame Lebron for his performance during those finals so you might actually be a bigger Bron hater than Skip Bayless. @@TellenJones

  • @polopuik9198
    @polopuik9198 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Or, hear me out, Marc Gasol is one of if not the most underrated defenders, who didn't rely on stats like steals or blocks but being a thorn in the side with positioning and size, maybe because he was a team defender not only his partners in crime were one of the best, but they were better defenders because Gasol elevated their game. Jokic plays a similar way of defense and everybody says he's a bad defender when he's average at worst. Having 6ft11 in the paint in the optimal position that contests EVERY SHOT makes the fg drop much more than any chase down blocks, as espectacular as they may be

  • @JohnJohnson-do3db
    @JohnJohnson-do3db ปีที่แล้ว +18

    This whole premise is funny because the media LOVES lebron and has been claiming he’s the goat before he even won a chip. If the media won’t even give an award to lebron then he definitely doesn’t deserve it. And the one person who voted for melo is very justified. The knicks were the 2 seed and melo was pretty much carrying them, while lebron had a SUPERTEAM. You’re obviously more VALUABLE if you have less help on your team.

    • @jedduchene1525
      @jedduchene1525 ปีที่แล้ว

      You're weird. Stop being a hater.

    • @lookatzay4813
      @lookatzay4813 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      No the media loves jordan, you got it twisted bud.

    • @ochomunna270
      @ochomunna270 ปีที่แล้ว

      You're bold face lying, you got no shame dude. 🤦‍♂️

    • @Jakob-W
      @Jakob-W ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@lookatzay4813media is pushing for Lebron over Jordan. Because Jordan doesn’t care for what other people think. Lebron does. It’s all showbiz. NBA knows they can profit off Lebron for much longer.

    • @lookatzay4813
      @lookatzay4813 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@Jakob-W I’m willing to bet my life lebron doesn’t give a shit what you think my guy😂

  • @invazee
    @invazee ปีที่แล้ว +2

    u forgot abt the fact that giannis won dpoy and mvp in 2020

  • @thibautlecarpentier5051
    @thibautlecarpentier5051 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    don't forget GIANNIS 2020 MVP AND DPOY Combo :)

    • @michaelkelly1961
      @michaelkelly1961 ปีที่แล้ว

      and finals map?

    • @ethio-tok2552
      @ethio-tok2552 ปีที่แล้ว

      *mvp@@michaelkelly1961

    • @brandealda5868
      @brandealda5868 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@michaelkelly1961he got that 2021 when he didn't win dpoy

    • @Max-ys3xg
      @Max-ys3xg 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Didn't win FMVP

  • @MarcoSonzogni-nm3ml
    @MarcoSonzogni-nm3ml 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    marc gasol deserved 2013 dpoy, its a singular player award

  • @Torrence_TJ
    @Torrence_TJ ปีที่แล้ว +10

    But even the coaches vote put Tony Allen over Lebron for DPOY. Meaning no matter what voting metric Lebron wasn't the DPOY.

    • @revakriid
      @revakriid ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Yeah by one vote. And the counter argument to that is James can guard every position on a high level.

    • @Torrence_TJ
      @Torrence_TJ ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@revakriid I think the coaches who get paid top dollar to strategies and game plan against every team in the league were fully aware of that when they still voted for Tony Allen over Lebron.

    • @Kosithegod
      @Kosithegod ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Torrence_TJ By one vote? I'd call tha a coin flip. I think if they knew their vote was the only one that mattered, star power might have gotten lebron the win. I dont think think lebron was the best defender but neither was jordan when he won, or marcus smart last year, or any non-big ever, that position lends itself to on outsized impact on defense but sometimes we just go off vibes and reward those we see hustling..

    • @Torrence_TJ
      @Torrence_TJ ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @Kosithegod Michael Jordan finished sixth in Defensive Rating, third in Defensive Win Shares, first in Defensive Box Plus/Minus, first in steals and steals per game and even ranked 14th in blocks per game (might i add he's a shooting guard). He won the DPOY award with 37 first-place votes, well ahead of Mark Eaton's nine votes and Hakeem Olajuwon's seven. MJ was undeniably deserving of DPOY. Just because there are years when the victor was questionable doesn't mean it always is. Long story short, Bron COULD'VE won, but it certainly wasn't like it was undoubtedly meant to be for him. They clearly had other strong cases that year also.

  • @KenjiWasTaken
    @KenjiWasTaken ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I dont know whats more crazy, LeBron not winning Dpoy and being first team or Marc winning Dpoy and being second team

    • @listo393
      @listo393 ปีที่แล้ว

      More crazy than either of those is people not doing their research and acting like this was a historical anomaly

  • @TreWimsical
    @TreWimsical ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Getting robbed of DPOY was his karma for robbing Melo of ROY

    • @DM_ON_TELE_GRAM-Nonstop_YT
      @DM_ON_TELE_GRAM-Nonstop_YT ปีที่แล้ว

      ^^^Hey Fam, You Won.👍👍

    • @itzmarvinplays1605
      @itzmarvinplays1605 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Your acting as if LeBron paid the NBA to give him ROTY instead of Melo, shut up bro

  • @tjuannepitchford3943
    @tjuannepitchford3943 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I stopped watching after realizing the content because he absolutely got robbed and I didn’t wanna get riled up just reliving how he got robbed. Trust your insight, gave you a like and rolled out. 👍🏾👍🏾

  • @JahNuhThunDeeTheOneAndOnly
    @JahNuhThunDeeTheOneAndOnly ปีที่แล้ว +25

    Heat LeBron was so special because not only was he a force on offense (like he always is) but he was a huge difference-maker on the defensive side too
    That in my opinion is a top 2 player in NBA history

    • @tompullins9852
      @tompullins9852 ปีที่แล้ว

      who's number 1

    • @tompullins9852
      @tompullins9852 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      for me kobe

    • @germaincane
      @germaincane ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@tompullins9852 are you high. Obviously its MJ. Kobe was a good player but not better than lebron let alone mj

    • @theendisnigh4497
      @theendisnigh4497 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@tompullins9852how can someone who isn’t even the best at his position be the best player ever? Y’all need to stop already he’s hardly top 10

    • @tompullins9852
      @tompullins9852 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@germaincane LeBron and mj played the 3 kobe played the 2

  • @DemonDriver31
    @DemonDriver31 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    LeBron:Not 1-10 championships 2010 offseason
    2011 loses to Dallas
    2012 wins vs OKC
    2013 wins via 3pt by Ray Allen
    2014 loses to San Antonio
    Goes back to Cleveland.

  • @abc-eb7rq
    @abc-eb7rq ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Greatest season ever - Oh Please - Try Wilt Chamberlain's 1962 season, averaging 50-ppg, 25-rpg, 100-pt game, 48-mpg - That was a Great Season!

    • @Bojangus-
      @Bojangus- ปีที่แล้ว

      Wilt was a man among boys in the 60’s. There is no fucking way he’s doing that in any other era, so let’s not be dropping those stats as if Shaq, Hakeem, Giannis, Jokic, LeBron, Howard, Malone, or even Embiid couldn’t have also dropped holy shit numbers then.

    • @Bojangus-
      @Bojangus- ปีที่แล้ว

      And that’s with me also recognizing that Wilt definitely was an athletic freak who had a great case for the greatest player of all time, I just don’t like people uncritically saying these things.

    • @codealias3234
      @codealias3234 ปีที่แล้ว

      That would’ve been pretty boring to watch. Watching wilt dominate a bunch of dwarfs and his team feeding him the ball.

  • @Getroy
    @Getroy ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Put 5 2013 Lebron on a team and nobody is beating that. Even other versions of Bron.

    • @dylan9013
      @dylan9013 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I say you throw in a 2018 version (arguably the best he's ever been), a 2020 version (exceptional point guard), and a 2009 version (just to watch him be the best athlete in the history of the game again).

  • @Manny_25
    @Manny_25 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Love the content, love lebron ❤

  • @JEdits1
    @JEdits1 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    If we're being real, Shaq should have been Unanimous MVP in 2000

  • @leroysanders3564
    @leroysanders3564 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    8 straight finals! Lebron should have at least 6MVPs... he's been robbed his entire career!!!

  • @bealu9459
    @bealu9459 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    they doing the same thing to wemby now, he deserves fully his roy and dpoy

  • @Supreme36074
    @Supreme36074 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    They had to protect Jordan’s legacy

    • @ronaldrodriguez1605
      @ronaldrodriguez1605 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      There's nothing to protect when he lose to the Mavericks and san Antonio in 2007 Jordan never knew what loosing whats

    • @pallani8471
      @pallani8471 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ronaldrodriguez1605Jordan losing earlier in the playoffs means he doesn’t know what it means to lose? Ok

    • @ronaldrodriguez1605
      @ronaldrodriguez1605 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Are we talking about finals or play off to get this right

    • @pallani8471
      @pallani8471 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ronaldrodriguez1605 you said Jordan never knew what losing means. That’s insinuating that he never lost point blank period. So that means in general

    • @ronaldrodriguez1605
      @ronaldrodriguez1605 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Don't be simple minded Im saying finals dude finals he didn't know loosing in the big stage, get over it

  • @lucianocastro51
    @lucianocastro51 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Nice vid! U got me a follower

  • @coreythomas3633
    @coreythomas3633 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    OF COURSE HE WAS ROBBED.

  • @abdu_brh
    @abdu_brh ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice editing 👏

  • @JoshSmith-jq9tw
    @JoshSmith-jq9tw ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Just because Lebron wanted dpoy and many of you wanted it, doesn't mean he deserved it. Also i can't take this video seriously when you say Gasol had all the defensive help and Lebron didn't. Umm D Wade, Chalmers, Shane B, Chris Bosh???? That's more than sound defensive help.
    Btw if you also go by the eye test for that year, yeah Lebron was good on defense but it was nothing spectacular

  • @michaeljosephluy4787
    @michaeljosephluy4787 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The biggest question here is why gasol is on the 2nd all defensive team and won DPOY?

  • @withalittlehelpfrom3
    @withalittlehelpfrom3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    There were 5 years where LeBron made First Team All-Defense. Dwight Howard won it 3/5 of those years, Tyson Chandler and Marc Gasol each got one.
    It’s weird to scapegoat Marc when Dwight Howard won not one, not two, but three DPOYS, and 2 of those were in seasons LeBron also won mvp.
    Oh, and LeBron never made 1st team all defense after that year-in fact, 2014 was the last year he made any all defensive team.

    • @yungbeeno007
      @yungbeeno007 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Gasol was 2nd team all defence tho

    • @withalittlehelpfrom3
      @withalittlehelpfrom3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@yungbeeno007 because different people vote for all defense and the DPOY award.
      If LeBron really was the DPOY, he should’ve beaten a guy who was on 2nd Team-but the voters saw who the real DPOY was

  • @b01tact10n
    @b01tact10n หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I wouldn't mind axing Lebron what "Ain't No Party like a Diddy party." Means🤨

  • @CloudSpirals
    @CloudSpirals ปีที่แล้ว +3

    A team of five Lebron's VS a team of five Jordan's would be an interesting scenario.......
    My opinion is that one on one it would be a dam close match... but the five VS five scenario would be a blow-out victory to team Lebron.
    What does everybody else reckon?
    Who wins? One on One.... and the Five on Five scenario??

    • @rik80280
      @rik80280 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      One on one maybe Jordan but five on five for sure Lebron

    • @IsaacMiller-bd8hg
      @IsaacMiller-bd8hg ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Lebron is to big and strong to lose in a one on one against Jordan IMO

    • @CloudSpirals
      @CloudSpirals ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@IsaacMiller-bd8hg
      That is pretty much my basis for why 5 VS 5 Lebron destroys Jordan.
      He too much of a complete player and pretty much a bigger stronger version of Jordan.
      One VS One I feel Jordan might be crafty enough to make it go either way. With only one Lebron to worry about, Jordan's bag of tricks and smarts might get it.
      He'd have to be hitting his shots though, Lebron would dominate the rebounds..

    • @CloudSpirals
      @CloudSpirals ปีที่แล้ว

      @@rik80280
      Yep, that's my feels about it! 👍

    • @CloudSpirals
      @CloudSpirals ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@IsaacMiller-bd8hg
      Part of me feels that way too. Lebron could post and back him up. Fade away shots off the post would be hard to defend. Jordan can be good with holding his weight and defensive stance though, can be very crafty reading steals of the dribble though.
      You're probably right though, but I feel Jordan has a very high bball IQ and would be able to work something out.
      He'd have to hit his shots on offence though as he's not getting many second chances though. 👍

  • @ParamoreFAV3
    @ParamoreFAV3 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Stop letting the media vote on basketball awards. That sentence doesn’t even sound right: the talking heads vote on player production lmao

  • @bobbyblue2486
    @bobbyblue2486 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I def couldn’t believe Gasol won that year either , same when Tyson chandler won , but I also believe Bron got cheated his last year on CavS too , the 1st stint, Howard won , who was a beast , but Bron just showed more ability to guard more positions & his chase down bloccs were something to see which he still does , but he was just doing it at a higher rate cause of the younger legs obviously, but I do believe he got cheated twice out of the defensive player of the year award

    • @nonamewillbegiven6847
      @nonamewillbegiven6847 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yawn

    • @youngsquilla
      @youngsquilla ปีที่แล้ว

      The being cheating this man since day one

    • @nonamewillbegiven6847
      @nonamewillbegiven6847 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@youngsquilla shutup Lebron groupie

    • @Tay04723
      @Tay04723 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Marc gasol only won because of tony allen on his team

  • @itsdonovandlsr
    @itsdonovandlsr ปีที่แล้ว

    W video like all ways nonstop sports

  • @tamasrab4441
    @tamasrab4441 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Shaq should have won the first unanimous MVP, but by 2013 rolled around, Lebron's name was in the GOAT conversation, and media made sure that he will never have the greatest season ever because it would benefit Lebron in the Jordan/James conversation....just think about that 2013 year if he would have won every award possible. MVP, FMVP, DPOY, 1st TEAM all nba and defense, one of the greatest statistical seasons ever, won 66 games in the regular season, 27 game winning streak, won one of the greatest Finals ever with one of the greatest Game 7 performances ever against the greatest Dynasty of the modern era......that's right there would have been easily the greatest season ever. Media members are told who to vote for.....they made sure Jordan's brand and legacy will not suffer from this unbelievable feet by James.....shame

    • @rackball5858
      @rackball5858 ปีที่แล้ว

      Righhhhttt - voters were "protecting" Jordan’s brand and legacy. Oooo The Conspiracy….

  • @mauricegotit
    @mauricegotit 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Crazy 2013 is the last time he won mvp smh , robbed of unanimous mvp & Dpoy

  • @mrdkhall33
    @mrdkhall33 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Guarding 5 positions, making plays at key moments to win games, chase down blocks Ava steals, the eye contest, common sense, should be considered over made up stats.. lebron was the real DPOY

    • @DM_ON_TELE_GRAM-Nonstop_YT
      @DM_ON_TELE_GRAM-Nonstop_YT ปีที่แล้ว

      ^^^Hey Fam, You Won👍👍

    • @shaft9000
      @shaft9000 ปีที่แล้ว

      If you can link footage that shows him truly "guarding all 5 positions' besides switches that were quickly switched back, I'm all eyes.

  • @sh0nthed0n
    @sh0nthed0n ปีที่แล้ว

    3:40 - 4:00
    "Lebrons versatility allowed spoelstra to play 1 Big, while the rest of the league played 2...which disrupted the NBA"
    -- & that one 'Big' for MIA that season was Chris Bosh, who was smaller and thinner than a traditional center, but faster, more versatile, could get hot from shooting & could switch on D. Much respect to bosh that season, thru spoelstras new small ball offense, he found his role in the big 3, aftrr kinda struggling in the prior 2 years as a traditional center & with physicality. Coach Spo's new offense was perfect for bosh and bosh was a key part to their success.

    • @nonamewillbegiven6847
      @nonamewillbegiven6847 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Shutup kid

    • @nonamewillbegiven6847
      @nonamewillbegiven6847 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      And because you're an I/diot, Bosh was still playing his natural position in 2011 and 2012 and him playing center helped make Miami be the worst rebounding team in the league

  • @marceloasensiofilho3833
    @marceloasensiofilho3833 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Lebron is just salty. This season's DPOY was Gasol's for sure.
    Lebron had a great defensive season for sure but thats just Lebron being salty

    • @GalexyStories
      @GalexyStories ปีที่แล้ว +5

      yep because a 2nd all defense player deserves the DPOY OK

    • @marceloasensiofilho3833
      @marceloasensiofilho3833 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@GalexyStorieshave you watched that entire season? Gasol was phenomenal on defense. Lebron was surely more versatile but Gasol was the best at what he was doing when defending

    • @withalittlehelpfrom3
      @withalittlehelpfrom3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Agreed! People should be pissed at Dwight Howard since he won it 3/5 times when LeBron could’ve.
      But no, let’s blame the guy on the best defensive team that year in Memphis 🙄

    • @marceloasensiofilho3833
      @marceloasensiofilho3833 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@withalittlehelpfrom3 Dwight did have his season he was DPOY, he took the magic very far but he did steal the award from Lebron twice

    • @withalittlehelpfrom3
      @withalittlehelpfrom3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@marceloasensiofilho3833 Feels like at least 1 of those DPOYs was because Dwight should’ve been mvp, but because they couldn’t give it to anyone but LeBron, they just gave him another DPOY.
      If Dwight had been MVP 1 year and LeBron DPOY, I wouldn’t be mad

  • @nickmay7342
    @nickmay7342 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    HOT TAKE: The reason its a voting system is so the person who gets the most votes wins. To suggest that someone getting 120/121 votes is a robbery is ridiculous. Being a unanimous MVP doesnt actually mean anything. If you want to remove the votes and just give it to the person with the best stats you remove the entire human element from the MVP race. Youre clowning a professional who had a vote and wasn't afraid to use his vote to vote for who he thought had a bigger impact. Lebron was on a stacked ass Miami team with DWade and Bosh. Carmelo had Tyson chandler as his second best and was second in the East. He deserved at least 1 first place vote. Not everyone is going to agree and we saw just this year the best player doesn't always win the MVP, thats just not how it works. This video was a waste of time.

  • @lucidstudious750
    @lucidstudious750 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Im actuality glad bron and shaq didnt get the unanimous MVP. Currys game changing season was the true unanimous season
    That being said bro should have a DPoY or 2. People that were around at the time remember how insane prime bron was at everything

  • @Acknalogiek
    @Acknalogiek ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Advanced stats are skewed because the grizzlies were the slowest team in the game and the heat were an incredibly fast team

    • @ranholic5027
      @ranholic5027 ปีที่แล้ว

      whats your point Gasol still had better impact on def than Lebron and the metrics supported it. the pace didnt matter in those era if you can disrupt the pace of opposing team then you are at least good at defending them like Grizzilies team

  • @aleksandarstojanovski9193
    @aleksandarstojanovski9193 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    what are you talking about ?
    lebron winning DPOY would've been the greatest travesty ever.
    he was never even a good defender.
    we all know what he COULD do in theory (guarding 4 positions etc), but he never did because he was never engaged on that end and he always shied away from contact.
    guarding rondo that one playoff series and fronting pau gasol that other time made him a defensive legend when in truth the best he ever was on that end was merely competent and that was only in his miami years.

    • @anthonyoliveiraribeiro6646
      @anthonyoliveiraribeiro6646 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      He is talking about the 2012-13 season in Miami, he could guard 1-5 and he had the athleticism and the intensity to do it and he did, he was playing as a 4 and guarding 7 footers, like, a lot of his blocks those years were against bigs, if you didn't knew, the video talks about just 2012-13, not his whole career brother

    • @anthonyoliveiraribeiro6646
      @anthonyoliveiraribeiro6646 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      He never shied away from contact, exemple, the block against Tiago, he never got outta way, but instead went with the hand open and blocked the shit outta Splitter, another 7'foot C that LeGoat blocked that year

    • @alexescutia4805
      @alexescutia4805 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You didn’t watch Miami lebron like that

  • @selg865
    @selg865 หลายเดือนก่อน

    2013 MVP voting looking like ballon d'or voting

  • @robertbarton7224
    @robertbarton7224 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I’m a Memphis fan so I may be bias, but Marc deserves that defensive player of the year. Anyone that watch those games knows that. Those numbers don’t lie and to make it about having tony Allen and Mike Conley is totally ridiculous. Wade and Bosh were very good defenders as well and all stars??? Lol

    • @codealias3234
      @codealias3234 ปีที่แล้ว

      100% bias

    • @jazzroyale7260
      @jazzroyale7260 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Bosh a really good defender??
      🤣🤣🤣
      Stop lying…like u said in the first sentence… YOU BEING BIASED!!!
      Marc had Conley, Allen, Prince, etc… his team was full of defenders…
      LeBron didn’t have nobody on his team as good defensively as Tony Allen, Mike Conley, or Tayshaun Prince.
      Well I’ll say Shane Battier, but that’s it. Wade is not the defender Allen was. Like cmon now he won Dpoy too.

  • @MRMIAOFFDALBLOCK
    @MRMIAOFFDALBLOCK 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Man oh man this lebron was on a different level I remember going to school in 2nd grade telling all my friends how raw lebron James was he was so versatile that’s what made lebron even more special.

  • @Mrballerize
    @Mrballerize ปีที่แล้ว +4

    DPOY wasn't the only major award LeBron missed in 2013. Even if he won it, he would still be missing the major award of Scoring Title. Still a great season tho.

    • @Kosithegod
      @Kosithegod ปีที่แล้ว +4

      LeBron leaves a lot on the table, there have been several times he was less than one point from winning the scoring title and just didn’t care. could've been the oldest player to ever win a scoring title and 2 years ago and just didn't even play the one last game to simply qualify (minimum games) for the award. Genuinely think he takes pride in not being a high volume scorer.

    • @dantewilliams7458
      @dantewilliams7458 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@Kosithegodscoring titles are overrated asl a player on the worst team can win a scoring title

    • @shrayesraman5192
      @shrayesraman5192 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Kosithegod Bron is a master facillitator. Assists and IQ are more important for the team

    • @nonamewillbegiven6847
      @nonamewillbegiven6847 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@dantewilliams7458 no they can't you I/diot

    • @nonamewillbegiven6847
      @nonamewillbegiven6847 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@shrayesraman5192 no he ain't you simpleton

  • @AyeAshh
    @AyeAshh 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    They been robbed bro like crazy 😭

  • @JaySwavo
    @JaySwavo ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I’ve said it many times & I’ll say it again. The ONLY reason why LeBron didn’t win DPOY is because the League wanted/needed to make a case for Micheal Jordan in the future. They were unsure for how long that Miami team would be together & just in case if Miami did win 7 championships, they can say MJ has done something LeBron has never done 🤷🏾‍♂️

    • @user-zm1rx2zq1m
      @user-zm1rx2zq1m ปีที่แล้ว +2

      That is some crazy delusion.

    • @sumnahlennon5449
      @sumnahlennon5449 ปีที่แล้ว

      You are delusional. All you are managed to do with your comment is turn more fans of MJ against you or Lebron unnecessarily

    • @sumnahlennon5449
      @sumnahlennon5449 ปีที่แล้ว

      If making arguments, try not to make yourself unlikeable from the get-go. You wont persuade anyone this way

    • @user-zm1rx2zq1m
      @user-zm1rx2zq1m ปีที่แล้ว

      huh?@@sumnahlennon5449

    • @user-zm1rx2zq1m
      @user-zm1rx2zq1m ปีที่แล้ว

      not trying to persuade anyone just stating an opinion@@sumnahlennon5449

  • @lolno6975
    @lolno6975 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Massive Grizz fan here. Marc was him on D, but man if Bron got DPOY then it would've been a top 3 individual season ever. It still is like top 10 but even then

  • @thisisntme
    @thisisntme ปีที่แล้ว +2

    So you're going to ignore the fact that Jordan won in 1988 and Gary Payton won in 1996?

  • @Safe2096
    @Safe2096 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    To think that LeBron was 270 and 2014 is crazy because he moves really fast in that year like on dogs he flies and he is at his like top weight screening people left and right he’s hitting people like a train

  • @purpleisrad3409
    @purpleisrad3409 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    shaq’s season was better imo

  • @J-Bravo416
    @J-Bravo416 หลายเดือนก่อน

    8:50 this CP3 Highlight needs more attention 😂

  • @smirkinggoku5435
    @smirkinggoku5435 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    He’s truly the GOAT. Main difference between MJ’s and LBJ’s career is that.. everyone supported & was rooting for MJ. Even the late David Stern.😂 From Day 1.. they just let him grew to be the player he can be. While with LeBron.. Day 1, the pressure was there & everyone just can’t wait for him to fail. Everyone is salivating and ready to attack him for any weakness that he might show. Despite that tho, proud of him that he was still able to exceed all expectations. 😊

  • @aitorrodriguez6888
    @aitorrodriguez6888 ปีที่แล้ว

    4:52 wrong. There's 3 guys. You forgot to mention Giannis.

  • @tiktokexposed898
    @tiktokexposed898 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    LeBron was absolutely robbed this year. He had the greatest season of any NBA player ever but he was robbed of DPOY and some Melo stan gave Melo a undeserved MVP vote. 2013 season is partly why i consider Lebron the GOAT

  • @isabelleromero7265
    @isabelleromero7265 ปีที่แล้ว

    9:30 “fast enough to swallow up point guards” pause