No it wasn’t, Although the sixers haven’t made it past the second round, they have a MVP, and has been slowly improving They had 10 wins in 2015-2016 And in 2022-2023 they were the third seed and seem to get better, so yea it worked just not as well as people thought
Don't forget they started tanking because they lost in the 2nd round. So they wasted all this time to now be in posibly worse situation - Harden (and maybe also Embiid) wanting out and no real good replacements/offers for them.
@@bradulovic82 there's a little detail missing with that 2nd round finish though. They were an 8 seed that year and only made it past the first round because Derrick Rose blew out his knee in game 1 and basically killed the Bulls spirit
Lol it was a gamble, they must have been gamblers. It's a risk they were willing to take. If their "Process" would have resulted in multiple NBA Championships, then we would all be on here talking about how genius the 76ers front office is😂
According to Mark Cuban, there were 2 VHS tapes showing Giannis. People bashing teams for not taking Giannis is ridiculous. No one had any idea he would be who he is now.
That's kinda the thing, people could've at least taken a chance, it would be a high risk but it's like they always say "You miss every shot you don't take" and Milwaukee took a shot of Giannis and are now considered a title contender in a pretty tough Eastern Conference. (Boston and Miami specifically tough)
Of course it failed, but the worst part of the process is it failed in the most obvious way. You can't expect young players to develop into a championship team if the organization spends the first 3-4 years telling them winning doesn't actually matter.
@@erikbentley9005 I would check out Jimmy's interview with J.J. Redick from a few years ago. Based on the way he describes things, I don't think Butler stays even if they offer him to Tobias Harris contract.
It didn’t “fail,” they have the current MVP on their roster, and a former albeit unhappy former MVP. They’re a solid team, but they aren’t winning a championship most likely. So the question of if they failed depends on what the expectations were/are and would the alternative have been better? I would say the hope was to get beyond the second round, which they’ve failed to do. However, considering that team very likely would have ended up a bottom tier team anyone this state is better than the alternative.
@@johndebono1870From his interview I remembered he HATED coach Brett. If somehow they offered Tobias Harris max after hiring Doc and of course Embiid likes him and convince him to stay then Butler would have
I think Embid seems to always get a pass in this ordeal, most of the blame came onto Ben. Embid haven’t shown up in the playoffs also, weather it’s because he is hurt or he just didn’t preform, I think he deserves more consideration in the blame game.
yep, for some reason he has this barrier that protects him for getting any blame. The 1st option of the team not in the best shape, always getting injured in the playoffs and when he forces to play, he hurts the team more than helping.
As good as he can be he’s always struggled with his health and he’s one of the worst clutch players I’ve ever seen. He’s just as likely to fall down as he is to make a game winning shot🙄😆
Personally, I'm tired of the 76ers. I've been saying this since he threw his teammates under the bus, that I trust Victor Wembanyama, Brandon Miller,and Scoot Henderson to lead their teams to the conference finals before Joel Embiid can. Joel can't be trusted as the first,second,or third option on any team. They 4real just need to pack him and Harden up,and give the keys to the 76ers to Tyrese Maxey.
Ive been saying the same thing. Honestly, id cut him full stop. I would rather have karl malone right now knowing everything hes done than embiid,. Embaby is the worst human being to ever play in the nba
Don’t wanna get ahead of myself, but I think they are finally figuring out how to use everyone properly. After the first five games of this season, 4 guys were averaging 20+. No other team has done that in history. I’m still a little skeptical, but this is looking different from years past.
Curious why the Markelle Fultz to Orlando trade was never even mentioned here? As an Orlando fan, I used to consider this trade a heist job by the Magic. But considering the fact that the pick they gained from the trade was used to draft Maxey, it actually turned into a huge win for Philly.
As a sixers fan, the last few years have been torture. Losing Jimmy for Tobi or Ben might sting the worst if not for our awful drafts besides Joel. I really have no care for next season and seriously doubt we'll be up to par over the next few years. They tricked me last post season but the writing was on the wall early in the 2nd round exit. I imagine it'll be the same if not a 1st round exit this year. Also Jokic deserved the MVP over Joel.
The process didn’t fail because they got exactly what they wanted out of it. A mvp caliber player which they got. The reason it failed was because of all the horrible decisions like letting jimmy walk and then handing Tobias over 100 million dollars.
@@reidbonvillain5135 So what they wanted was to make themselves the joke of the league for like 4 years so they could one guy that's currently seen as the most overrated player in the league? That just feels like the NBA equivalent of the Mission Accomplished banner.
for me, if not for FULTZ INJURY(a scoring PG who will have the ball once Ben shut himself up in every 4th QT), they could be a real contender on his 2-3rd year. side note: I missed The Jump.
To answer the last question, yes, the process was a failure. A lot of teams had more success than the Sixers did and some won a championship without tanking the way they did during those 11 year span.
2018: "We're young, we have more time to evolve!" 2019: "We took the Raptors to game 7!" 2020: "Horford stinks!" 2021: "Simmons stinks!" 2022: "Harden needs more time to gel!" 2023: "...now what?"
That is it right there! You can have all the talent in the world if you don't create the winning type atmosphere then you won't win. Nick Nurse I believe will change that for them.
100% correct. 10 years of purposely losing creating an awful culture. That’s why Bulter wanted out. Sixers management expectation is aiming for draft picks, now winning games.
@@MrOccyc Absolutely correct. Loser like Hinkie (and the "fans" that cheered him on) think that "assets" = winning. They think sports are a mathematical equation. They fail to realize that the heart of all sports in competition and winning, NOT formulas and "assets".
sooooooooo many missed players like i knew abt all of them but seeing this break down just like oh god and the fact that mikal bridges wanted to play for the 76ers bc he is from philly like that has got to hurrrtttt && then jimmy butler the heat gained such a great player/teammate/leader w/ him. but i have faith in embiid.
I’m a sixers fan and the process just gave me no faith in this organization that I have loved my whole life. We could have drafted so many superstar talents, and instead we got a ton of busts. We could have been in the finals multiple times, but instead, our bad front office put together a team that couldn’t even get past the SECOND ROUND of the playoffs. We could have drafted players like Jokic, Tatum, Jalen Brown, and Donovan Mitchell, but we had a team that was built around Ben Simmons. We could have been happy, excited fans, but instead, we are all just waiting to lose in the playoffs yet again. This basketball team is absolutely miserable.
Stop with this draft bullshit. You sixers always act like Ben Simmons wasn't consensus no 1 pick. You had tons of all-star level players, problem wasn't the draft, problem was you didn't know how to develop them. Also you guys always giving Embiid a pass whenever he underperforms boosting his ego and not developing into a proper leader.
Picking Carter Williams ahead of Giannis was not bad, Giannis was pure raw talent. And Ben Simmons very much deserved the no 1 pick, he was incredible during his early career.
Weird how many people overlook this but its kinda obvious why embiid is a post season choker. Referees allow during playoffs for players to play more physical ball which is resulting in embiid getting less foul calls and therefore he is much less productive which makes him shut down totally cuz of that loser mentality he has. So he is literally a glorified flopper who gets exposed every playoff.
@@OkagaCaliforniahe can’t be the best player on a contending team. That requires a level of passion and intensity that he just doesn’t have. I’m not even trying to hate on him because there’s maybe 3-4 guys in the whole league who are good enough to be that guy. It’s just a reality that teams can’t seem to grasp.
Al Horford got vengeance for what? 76ers gave him a bag and then traded him back to where he was happiest. Dude probably loves the Sixers. I know his bank account does.
@@BenFranklin1776 traded him back cause he played horrible and wasn’t happy, thats a bad trade for Philly. Good for big Al, but if I’m a 76ers fan, and I have ton of friends that are, that was a wasted roster spot for that season when he was there. Danilo Gallanari last year was a complete waste of money and a roster spot cause he literally never played a single minute in the regular season
To be fair, MPJ was a significant risk in terms of actually contributing due to the type of injury he suffered in collage, and I say this as a Nuggets fan.
The Sixers drafted children and expected them to perform in a man’s league. Okafar, Simmons, Fultz didn’t have the maturity to come into the league and perform. You can make all the excuses you want, but once you start accepting paychecks, performance js expected. If you want to make excuses, stay in college until you are mature. Yes, the process was a failure.
At the time, I kept hearing how the Spurs wouldn't have had their run if not for tanking to get Duncan in order to justify perpetual tanking. The difference is that this was one season because their best player suffered a season-ending injury. David Robinson had too much integrity to stick around a situation like that. The big part that people keep missing is that tanking created a losing mentality that could never be overcome. Even when the Sixers had good players, they got rid of them for fear that their tanking would be sabotaged. A bunch of players they got rid of were key parts of championship or at least Finals runs, so it almost.seemed like they were moved because they were too good.
Last time we went to the finals was 01 last time y’all went was 99 so Knicks fan chill y’all in the biggest market and still can’t win how is that possible?
I feel like the process wasn’t really a management fault. Ben Simmons being lazy isn’t something they could’ve predicted, Fultz got in a car crash, and Embiid is a baby. It’s hard to predict these things and the idea was there
Philly was an embarassment to the league with their process. They proved that even if you luck out and get a good team, the organization has been tanking for so long they didn't know how to win when it mattered. The Heat is the opposite of the Sixers and have been more exciting for the league than the Sixers. If more teams played to win, it would elevate their fanbases and there would be more interesting storylines. Once Embiid leaves, the process will have been for nothing.
"Once Embiid leaves the process will have been for nothing." The point of the process was to draft and develop an MVP caliber player, which they did. You expect him to stay for his whole career? Noone does that.
Yes, "The Process" was a failure. It started in 2012 with the 76ers getting eliminated in the second-round of the playoffs. Philly did all of that tanking, trading, and signing to end up in the same place 11 years later in 2023. It's going to be a cautionary tale for all future tanking teams. The Basketball Gods frown on long-term tanking.
@@pattycakes1439and when they did it was for 1 season, because Robinson got injured. They hit the jackpot and got a great player that’s not injury prone 💀
@@pattycakes1439 its not the same. Robinson got hurt and so did some of their other players. They would have been a playoff team that year, minus the injuries. They got lucky but didn’t tank.
Coming back to this post now is great. I hate Philly with a passion, but the sixers now look fantastic. They just needed to put more trust in Maxey and get rid of James Hasbeen. The sixers are sitting on top and looking like contenders. What the sixers needed to learn is that “the process” isn’t trading for “the best” players. “The process” is growing true talent like Maxey and letting him become an all star. And now they are doing it.
I don’t know why everyone seems to ignore that fact. Simmons was just a sorry scorer. He was still a really good ball distributor and an elite defender. Philly should have stuck with him to be honest. Just take him out the game in the final 3mins
Nah Philly sports gotta have some sort of curse, the 76ers have to be one of the worst run franchises in the NBA. Without embiid theyd have not Made the playoffs for the entirerety of the process
Jimmy could have saved this team. Jimmy could have saved Minnesota. Both teams stacked with young players.. but young players that are paid aren’t players that are hungry..
The process didnt consider shooting and true leadership. Tobias Harris? Ben Simmons? Butler made more Finals Appearances than the entire sixers roster during the process combined.
You can look at most of those players now in hindsight and say the Sixers could've drafted someone else, but at the time most of those were the right call outside of Okafor and trading away Bridges.
I wont called it a total Failed. The process itself is a great strategy and rewarding 76ers amazingly, the failed part come from the individuals and luck. If they dont tank those years they likely will be another Hornets or Magics.
@@nolimitr86 There are like 10 teams that been mediocre for the last decade. There are Hornets, Magic, Piston, Wizards, Knicks, Jazz, Trailblazers, Kings, etc. They are all at their best time of the decade still a non-contenders.
@@sticket5480 the 76ers are relevant because of an MVP Caliber player, once it GOES out the window it's wraps. It's not like they are some Lakers, Knicks or Celtics.
I’m a 76ers fan, and YES the process was a ‘failure’. Embiid (((This seasons MVP, either you like it or not)))can’t do everything by himself, I’m not just blaming Ben, but keeping Doc around to long.
@@IsaacMiller-bd8hg Yes! As a personality, he is someone that sells himself really great. I tried to believe in him but like you said 2008 is what most of us remember. He’s just don’t seem like a very intelligent Coach, I think Nick Nurse will hold everyone accountable.🙏
Embiid has a heavy work load, but is a huge playoff choker. In this last elimination game he was outscored by both Tobias Harris and Tyrese Maxey. He lacks accountability for his actions. I think everyone is underrating embiid rn because of the 2nd round exit. A lot of the criticism is warranted tho. He doesn't even need to score at the same volume as he did in the regular. His efficiency plummeting in the post-season is a real issue.
You are delusional sixers fan. Yeah, embiid cant do everything by himself, but he needs to do anything in post season instead of disappearing into thin air every season. Dude has loser mentality and its painfully obvious to everyone except delusional fans like you.
The Holiday trade was less than value. Half of the league passed on Giannis, that was stroke of luck for the Bucks. The Embiid was a great pick, however. Saric was not drafted by the Sixers. The Sixers drafted Elfrid Payton and swapped him for Saric, recouping a #1 pick. What they did with the pick is another story. Carter-Williams was traded because of his inability to shoot. They got a #1 for him (Mikal Bridges) which isn't bad considering what he's done since. Porzingas made it clear that he would not play in Philly and wouldn't even work out for them. A multitude pf teams passed on Booker, too. The Embiid and Saric delays actually abetted "The Process." Hinkie was fired for all intents in purposes in 2016. THE PROCESS WAS OVER AT THAT POINT. Everything after that was not part of "The Process." No team would have taken anyone over ROY, Simmons. What happened after that was utter and complete mismanagement under traditional basketball theory, not "The Process." The Fultz trade was as bad as the Bynum one. There was more to the Bridges trade. The Sixers also acquired an unprotected Heat pick which they used to obtain Harris. Again, more traditional management, not "The Process." The only good move was the Jimmy Butler trade. Letting Butler walk and signing Horford were terrible post-Process moves. Colangelo and Brand are terrible GM's, much worse than Morey. Brown and Rivers are terrible coaches, much worse than Nurse. It has taken eight years to figure out how to manage a team. But, "The Process" wasn't the issue. It left the Sixers with assets that they squandered when they terminated "The Process." Please don't attribute everything to "The Process" which was just a re-branding of the word "rebuild." The majority of the failures came under non-rebuild management.
As a Sixers fan, the hidden cost of the process was creating a culture of losing. They had nothing to fall back on back then unlike teams like the Thunder where their tank years include guys like CP3 and Shai. I’m afraid they’ve put themselves in Knicks territory with all those years.
The league owes an apology to these fans. The process was a failure. All that losing for second round exits… they had a second round loss the year before the process
Look I don’t really care. I just wanted to remind all the sixer fans that Jokic still the REAL MVP and he’s got a ring to back it up. Ironically he got it through his “Trust the process” unlike Embiid
No elite franchise in sport has ever become elite by tanking for multiple years. They also chose Simmons over Butler and whiffed on the #1 pick that was Markelle Fultz
Shamelessly tanking is almost never rewarded. Sell off your free agents, play your young players, find a star or two in the draft, add another via trade/free agency. You willfully lose games for five years and don’t attempt to be competitive, you create a shit environment for all these “great” players you’re drafting. Two of whom literally can’t shoot a basketball.
Was "The Prcoess" a failure?
yes
Well yea
No it wasn’t, Although the sixers haven’t made it past the second round, they have a MVP, and has been slowly improving
They had 10 wins in 2015-2016
And in 2022-2023 they were the third seed and seem to get better, so yea it worked just not as well as people thought
nah in the next 3 years without a chip then yes
Yes, it is for now
Tanked for years to never make it past the 2nd round is crazy 🤣🤣
Don't forget they started tanking because they lost in the 2nd round. So they wasted all this time to now be in posibly worse situation - Harden (and maybe also Embiid) wanting out and no real good replacements/offers for them.
@@bradulovic82 there's a little detail missing with that 2nd round finish though. They were an 8 seed that year and only made it past the first round because Derrick Rose blew out his knee in game 1 and basically killed the Bulls spirit
Tanked for a decade lmao
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Lol it was a gamble, they must have been gamblers. It's a risk they were willing to take. If their "Process" would have resulted in multiple NBA Championships, then we would all be on here talking about how genius the 76ers front office is😂
According to Mark Cuban, there were 2 VHS tapes showing Giannis. People bashing teams for not taking Giannis is ridiculous. No one had any idea he would be who he is now.
That's kinda the thing, people could've at least taken a chance, it would be a high risk but it's like they always say "You miss every shot you don't take" and Milwaukee took a shot of Giannis and are now considered a title contender in a pretty tough Eastern Conference. (Boston and Miami specifically tough)
@@StarStruck7900its a hard sell after the darko fiasco. It made front offices paranoid of drafting overseas players with limited exposure.
Why would they take that big of a chance with a lottery pick?@@StarStruck7900
@@StarStruck7900they did not take a “shot at Gianni’s” dawg he was the 15th pick. If the bucks had a pick higher they wouldn’t have picked him
@@ProCy Ur right, forgot bout that part of Drafting.
3:58 the fact that 18 wins was only third worst in the league that year is insane 😂
Don't laugh at a kid that believes in Santa Claus if you're a grown adult trusting "the process"
Of course it failed, but the worst part of the process is it failed in the most obvious way. You can't expect young players to develop into a championship team if the organization spends the first 3-4 years telling them winning doesn't actually matter.
Imo, I think it was a success until they chose Harris over Butler. It’s a decision which made no sense then and makes even less sense now.
@@erikbentley9005 I would check out Jimmy's interview with J.J. Redick from a few years ago. Based on the way he describes things, I don't think Butler stays even if they offer him to Tobias Harris contract.
Truer words have never been spoken, this hits the spot
It didn’t “fail,” they have the current MVP on their roster, and a former albeit unhappy former MVP. They’re a solid team, but they aren’t winning a championship most likely.
So the question of if they failed depends on what the expectations were/are and would the alternative have been better?
I would say the hope was to get beyond the second round, which they’ve failed to do. However, considering that team very likely would have ended up a bottom tier team anyone this state is better than the alternative.
@@johndebono1870From his interview I remembered he HATED coach Brett. If somehow they offered Tobias Harris max after hiring Doc and of course Embiid likes him and convince him to stay then Butler would have
I think Embid seems to always get a pass in this ordeal, most of the blame came onto Ben. Embid haven’t shown up in the playoffs also, weather it’s because he is hurt or he just didn’t preform, I think he deserves more consideration in the blame game.
yep, for some reason he has this barrier that protects him for getting any blame. The 1st option of the team not in the best shape, always getting injured in the playoffs and when he forces to play, he hurts the team more than helping.
As good as he can be he’s always struggled with his health and he’s one of the worst clutch players I’ve ever seen. He’s just as likely to fall down as he is to make a game winning shot🙄😆
Joel embid is great on paper but when playoffs arrive he's washed as hell
Embiid will go down as a great regular season player but bc of his terrible clutch play will NEVER win a title as a team’s best player.
As a Celtics fan, I have to thank the 76ers for passing on Jayson Tatum, Jaylen Brown, and even Robert Williams. 😁😁😁
we really owe them everything they gave big al away for free too
Give the early 2010s nets their props for allowing y’all to fleece them
@@abhaypancharathi3866embiids team really gave their opponents the embiid stopper 😭😭
And they still can’t win rings and they always choked at the end LOL
@@TapC14 Horford or no Horford, Embid does a perfectly fine job stopping himself come playoff time.
Being a Sixers fan right now feels like being an Eagles fan during the Chip Kelly/Mark Sanchez/Sam Bradford era
Let just hope it ends the same for the sixers as it did for the eagles
Ben Simmons averaged 8 blocks during his rookie season… truly a generational talent
Hopefully he becomes the defensive superstar he is destined to be, it would be unfortunate if he never developed a jumper
0.9***
i think no body averaged 8 blocks ever
Wilt probably did
@@Coolhand69probably never for real
Personally, I'm tired of the 76ers. I've been saying this since he threw his teammates under the bus, that I trust Victor Wembanyama, Brandon Miller,and Scoot Henderson to lead their teams to the conference finals before Joel Embiid can. Joel can't be trusted as the first,second,or third option on any team. They 4real just need to pack him and Harden up,and give the keys to the 76ers to Tyrese Maxey.
Ive been saying the same thing. Honestly, id cut him full stop. I would rather have karl malone right now knowing everything hes done than embiid,. Embaby is the worst human being to ever play in the nba
@@Coolhand69 saw y’all hire doc rivers & I knew immediately that wasn’t going to last😂
Don’t forget Amen Thompson, now.
Don’t wanna get ahead of myself, but I think they are finally figuring out how to use everyone properly. After the first five games of this season, 4 guys were averaging 20+. No other team has done that in history. I’m still a little skeptical, but this is looking different from years past.
High risk no reward
7:46 Bro had me thinking Ben Simmons averaged 8 blocks 🤣 had to look that up cus i was almost flabbergasted
Curious why the Markelle Fultz to Orlando trade was never even mentioned here? As an Orlando fan, I used to consider this trade a heist job by the Magic. But considering the fact that the pick they gained from the trade was used to draft Maxey, it actually turned into a huge win for Philly.
Markelle gonna be better than maxey
Markelle is better than maxey at everything except 3 pt shooting
@@Simpfinynever
@vbacc1980 absolutely not. There's no one in the league that wants fultz or would trade Maxey. Fultz is the worst starting PG in the league
@@Simpfinyfultz is already maxed out. He's not getting any better. Maxey is already better than Fultz will ever be
I honestly have more trust in Maxey than Embiid
Maxey working on his shot, Embiid working on his flop ahahaha
Isn't Embiid 30 years old already? Y'all only have 3 or 4 good years of him max
It’s a good day when nonstop posted
the only player worth in "The process" was Embiid and even he has resume as fake MVP. Everything with 76ers is fake
What about Maxey?
Maxey. He is their best player.
This channel gotta be one of the most well produced basket ball channels out there
As a sixers fan, the last few years have been torture. Losing Jimmy for Tobi or Ben might sting the worst if not for our awful drafts besides Joel. I really have no care for next season and seriously doubt we'll be up to par over the next few years. They tricked me last post season but the writing was on the wall early in the 2nd round exit. I imagine it'll be the same if not a 1st round exit this year. Also Jokic deserved the MVP over Joel.
If I say embiid is asking out soon woukd that sound crazy?😂
DEFINITELY not a Sixers fan
@@Ohitsmyturn how so?
You called that one.
@@Ohitsmyturn you wanna give me my flowers yet?
I guess Ben Simmons averaged 8 blocks in 2017 😂
"His jump shot disappeared like a fart in the wind." 😂
We really tanked for almost a decade just to get knocked out the 2nd round every year ☹️
I never felt more ashamed as a Man from Philly 😔
Me personally I just gave up on them I'm now a Bucks fan now
🦌Go Bucks🦌
And
🇬🇷Go Giannis🇬🇷
@@StarStruck7900😂😂😂 thats crazy
@@Justfrank_0 What can I say? It's hard to root for a team that plays like trash.
The process has failed and if anybody disagrees you don't know ball
they also got really unlucky with markelle fultz and ben simmons just not wanting to play
The process didn’t fail because they got exactly what they wanted out of it. A mvp caliber player which they got. The reason it failed was because of all the horrible decisions like letting jimmy walk and then handing Tobias over 100 million dollars.
@@reidbonvillain5135 So what they wanted was to make themselves the joke of the league for like 4 years so they could one guy that's currently seen as the most overrated player in the league? That just feels like the NBA equivalent of the Mission Accomplished banner.
@@reidbonvillain5135it has failed
@@bigbearkat2010the are contenders now though. They are way better than where they were losing so many regular season games.
Trae young owns every 76ers player ever😂😂
zip up his pants when your done
I loved watching the underdog hawks knock them out of the playoffs
Especially Simmons 😂
for me, if not for FULTZ INJURY(a scoring PG who will have the ball once Ben shut himself up in every 4th QT),
they could be a real contender on his 2-3rd year.
side note: I missed The Jump.
If there are basketball gods they gave the sixers ben simmons as punishment for all the tanking 😂😂😂
To answer the last question, yes, the process was a failure. A lot of teams had more success than the Sixers did and some won a championship without tanking the way they did during those 11 year span.
trae young hawks had more success lmfao
Nuggets too
@@PjTheHero 1 WCF appearance is more success?
@@jordancada Nuggets got Jojic by accident, every team passed on him at least once and he was a multi year project.
@@shawndavis1480 proof that developement is sometimes better than drafting pure talent
2018: "We're young, we have more time to evolve!"
2019: "We took the Raptors to game 7!"
2020: "Horford stinks!"
2021: "Simmons stinks!"
2022: "Harden needs more time to gel!"
2023: "...now what?"
Another second round exit, that’s what
"Congratulations your team STILL can't get past the second round!"
with all the toxicity that came with "the process" , they can build an chemical plant.
Winning mindset makes up for talent. Ask Miami. My question is how much did OKC learn from sixers? They have done a great job of rebuilding
That is it right there! You can have all the talent in the world if you don't create the winning type atmosphere then you won't win. Nick Nurse I believe will change that for them.
100% correct. 10 years of purposely losing creating an awful culture. That’s why Bulter wanted out. Sixers management expectation is aiming for draft picks, now winning games.
@@MrOccyc Absolutely correct. Loser like Hinkie (and the "fans" that cheered him on) think that "assets" = winning. They think sports are a mathematical equation. They fail to realize that the heart of all sports in competition and winning, NOT formulas and "assets".
As a Celtics fan. Playing the Sixers in the playoffs is like Nick Wrights “better than a bye” lol. Just warms us up for the ECF
sooooooooo many missed players like i knew abt all of them but seeing this break down just like oh god and the fact that mikal bridges wanted to play for the 76ers bc he is from philly like that has got to hurrrtttt && then jimmy butler the heat gained such a great player/teammate/leader w/ him. but i have faith in embiid.
I’m a sixers fan and the process just gave me no faith in this organization that I have loved my whole life. We could have drafted so many superstar talents, and instead we got a ton of busts. We could have been in the finals multiple times, but instead, our bad front office put together a team that couldn’t even get past the SECOND ROUND of the playoffs. We could have drafted players like Jokic, Tatum, Jalen Brown, and Donovan Mitchell, but we had a team that was built around Ben Simmons. We could have been happy, excited fans, but instead, we are all just waiting to lose in the playoffs yet again. This basketball team is absolutely miserable.
Stop with this draft bullshit. You sixers always act like Ben Simmons wasn't consensus no 1 pick. You had tons of all-star level players, problem wasn't the draft, problem was you didn't know how to develop them. Also you guys always giving Embiid a pass whenever he underperforms boosting his ego and not developing into a proper leader.
You can’t blame your team for not drafting Jokic, literally every team passed on him, he wasn’t even the first pick for the Nuggets.
Picking Carter Williams ahead of Giannis was not bad, Giannis was pure raw talent. And Ben Simmons very much deserved the no 1 pick, he was incredible during his early career.
Just give them some more years trust me guys
😂
Say that every year …..😂😂😂😂
lol 😂 and still trust the process 😅😂
in the words of giannis there is no such thing as failure only the steps to success
As a sixers fan, it is sad and infuriating to see all the mistakes
"markelle fultz shot disappeared like a fart in the wind" 😂
Weird how many people overlook this but its kinda obvious why embiid is a post season choker. Referees allow during playoffs for players to play more physical ball which is resulting in embiid getting less foul calls and therefore he is much less productive which makes him shut down totally cuz of that loser mentality he has. So he is literally a glorified flopper who gets exposed every playoff.
Same for Harden
@@El_reecio He's just not built for the bright lights. An incredible player but he chokes like a mf when it matters the most.
@@OkagaCaliforniahe can’t be the best player on a contending team. That requires a level of passion and intensity that he just doesn’t have. I’m not even trying to hate on him because there’s maybe 3-4 guys in the whole league who are good enough to be that guy. It’s just a reality that teams can’t seem to grasp.
@@jamiegaskins3687facts bro
7:48 How did Ben Simmons average 8 blocks per game?😂
As a Celtics Fan, I love the fact that we got Al Horford back and he got his vengeance against Philly, GO C’s 🍀
Jimmy butler
@@Griffman08no rings as well!
Al Horford got vengeance for what? 76ers gave him a bag and then traded him back to where he was happiest. Dude probably loves the Sixers. I know his bank account does.
@@BenFranklin1776 traded him back cause he played horrible and wasn’t happy, thats a bad trade for Philly. Good for big Al, but if I’m a 76ers fan, and I have ton of friends that are, that was a wasted roster spot for that season when he was there. Danilo Gallanari last year was a complete waste of money and a roster spot cause he literally never played a single minute in the regular season
Jimmy Butler didn't question Ben Simmons Mentality. Man was guarding the best players and hustking every night.
Booker... giannis?....Tatum... Bridges... MPJ...
I dont think ive ever seen a team miss so many draft picks 😮
To be fair, MPJ was a significant risk in terms of actually contributing due to the type of injury he suffered in collage, and I say this as a Nuggets fan.
Other than Fultz and Mikal the 76ers made the best decision at the time. Hindsight only goes so far
@@Safarizoned they drafted embiid ... then drafted noel and okafor... miss ..miss
@@MrJreed1000 yeah but at the time they weren't considered bad picks. The problem is they ended up being lowkey busts
Lakers have done worse😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢
The Sixers drafted children and expected them to perform in a man’s league. Okafar, Simmons, Fultz didn’t have the maturity to come into the league and perform. You can make all the excuses you want, but once you start accepting paychecks, performance js expected. If you want to make excuses, stay in college until you are mature.
Yes, the process was a failure.
The process created a losing culture. This is why the 76ers haven't succeeded.
At the time, I kept hearing how the Spurs wouldn't have had their run if not for tanking to get Duncan in order to justify perpetual tanking. The difference is that this was one season because their best player suffered a season-ending injury. David Robinson had too much integrity to stick around a situation like that.
The big part that people keep missing is that tanking created a losing mentality that could never be overcome. Even when the Sixers had good players, they got rid of them for fear that their tanking would be sabotaged. A bunch of players they got rid of were key parts of championship or at least Finals runs, so it almost.seemed like they were moved because they were too good.
James Harden going nuts fhis season. Philly did not use him properly.
The fact that Harden wanted to go back to a sorry ass Houston team should tell you not keep him.
"Like a fart in the wind" LMAO 😂
returning after they lost in the first round
"Tobias Harris OVER ME" - Jimmy Buckets spitting REAL TALK DUDE. hahaha
Being a 76ers fan gotta be the one of the hardest things to be
It feels like being an Eagles fan during the Chip Kelly/Mark Sanchez/Sam Bradford era
Knicks fans says wassup B
Its a travesty the 76ers never truly were punished for tanking for 4 years straight
lol who’s watching this after the 76ers lost to the Knicks 😅😅😅
Last time we went to the finals was 01 last time y’all went was 99 so Knicks fan chill y’all in the biggest market and still can’t win how is that possible?
I’m here at 7-15 lol. I think it’s safe to say his knee is cooked
I feel like the process wasn’t really a management fault. Ben Simmons being lazy isn’t something they could’ve predicted, Fultz got in a car crash, and Embiid is a baby. It’s hard to predict these things and the idea was there
Here after they lost in 6 to the Knicks in Rd1
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Fire video
Philly was an embarassment to the league with their process. They proved that even if you luck out and get a good team, the organization has been tanking for so long they didn't know how to win when it mattered. The Heat is the opposite of the Sixers and have been more exciting for the league than the Sixers. If more teams played to win, it would elevate their fanbases and there would be more interesting storylines. Once Embiid leaves, the process will have been for nothing.
"Once Embiid leaves the process will have been for nothing." The point of the process was to draft and develop an MVP caliber player, which they did. You expect him to stay for his whole career? Noone does that.
@@shawndavis1480eh some people have but i doubt embiid would stay for his entire career
12:59 TOBIAS HARRIS OVER MEEEEEEEE???????😂😂😂😂😂😂
Yes, "The Process" was a failure. It started in 2012 with the 76ers getting eliminated in the second-round of the playoffs. Philly did all of that tanking, trading, and signing to end up in the same place 11 years later in 2023. It's going to be a cautionary tale for all future tanking teams. The Basketball Gods frown on long-term tanking.
Unless u are the Spurs lol. The Spurs tanking landed them Tim Duncan
@@pattycakes1439and when they did it was for 1 season, because Robinson got injured. They hit the jackpot and got a great player that’s not injury prone 💀
@@pattycakes1439 its not the same. Robinson got hurt and so did some of their other players. They would have been a playoff team that year, minus the injuries. They got lucky but didn’t tank.
From😅😅😅😅😅 Trust The Process to Non Sense😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
"TOBIAS HARRIS OVER ME?!?!"
Coming back to this post now is great. I hate Philly with a passion, but the sixers now look fantastic. They just needed to put more trust in Maxey and get rid of James Hasbeen. The sixers are sitting on top and looking like contenders. What the sixers needed to learn is that “the process” isn’t trading for “the best” players. “The process” is growing true talent like Maxey and letting him become an all star. And now they are doing it.
We not gonna talk about how it said Simmons averaged 8 blocks?
I saw that😂
The way some of his stans hype up his defense, somebody might actually believe that, like those dudes that make political points by quoting the Onion.
Simmons also is a major bust
TBH Hinkie trading Carter-Williams was the right call. He never played as good as in his rookie season
The old Ben Simmons was a very strong point guard.
I don’t know why everyone seems to ignore that fact. Simmons was just a sorry scorer. He was still a really good ball distributor and an elite defender. Philly should have stuck with him to be honest. Just take him out the game in the final 3mins
"His shot dissipated like a fart in the wind"😂
Nah Philly sports gotta have some sort of curse, the 76ers have to be one of the worst run franchises in the NBA. Without embiid theyd have not Made the playoffs for the entirerety of the process
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Jimmy could have saved this team.
Jimmy could have saved Minnesota.
Both teams stacked with young players.. but young players that are paid aren’t players that are hungry..
That roster before "the process" sounds solid, I have to say.
The process didnt consider shooting and true leadership. Tobias Harris? Ben Simmons? Butler made more Finals Appearances than the entire sixers roster during the process combined.
Hindsights 20/20. Any team was taking simmons 1st OA that year.
You can look at most of those players now in hindsight and say the Sixers could've drafted someone else, but at the time most of those were the right call outside of Okafor and trading away Bridges.
I wont called it a total Failed. The process itself is a great strategy and rewarding 76ers amazingly, the failed part come from the individuals and luck. If they dont tank those years they likely will be another Hornets or Magics.
More like another Pistons💀
@@nolimitr86 There are like 10 teams that been mediocre for the last decade. There are Hornets, Magic, Piston, Wizards, Knicks, Jazz, Trailblazers, Kings, etc. They are all at their best time of the decade still a non-contenders.
@@sticket5480 the 76ers are relevant because of an MVP Caliber player, once it GOES out the window it's wraps. It's not like they are some Lakers, Knicks or Celtics.
@@nolimitr86Which is from the success of “The Process”
This video explains my life being a Sixers fan.
I’m a 76ers fan, and YES the process was a ‘failure’. Embiid (((This seasons MVP, either you like it or not)))can’t do everything by himself, I’m not just blaming Ben, but keeping Doc around to long.
I used to think that doc was a good coach who got fired for his players but honestly he’s just riding the coattails off the 08 championship
@@IsaacMiller-bd8hg Yes! As a personality, he is someone that sells himself really great. I tried to believe in him but like you said 2008 is what most of us remember. He’s just don’t seem like a very intelligent Coach, I think Nick Nurse will hold everyone accountable.🙏
Embiid has a heavy work load, but is a huge playoff choker. In this last elimination game he was outscored by both Tobias Harris and Tyrese Maxey. He lacks accountability for his actions. I think everyone is underrating embiid rn because of the 2nd round exit. A lot of the criticism is warranted tho. He doesn't even need to score at the same volume as he did in the regular. His efficiency plummeting in the post-season is a real issue.
You are delusional sixers fan. Yeah, embiid cant do everything by himself, but he needs to do anything in post season instead of disappearing into thin air every season. Dude has loser mentality and its painfully obvious to everyone except delusional fans like you.
@@BarshBananagan Your ABSOLUTELY right! You are absolutely right about that everything you said. 💯 You broke everything down.
Keep up the great work Nonstop!
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Lol 50 seconds into the video and you described everything to know about the Philadelphia 76ers - *2nd round exit*
Love the content!
As a Heat fan I appreciate that they chose Tobias Harris over Himmy Butler
Watching this all back hurts my soul. 😢😩
The Holiday trade was less than value.
Half of the league passed on Giannis, that was stroke of luck for the Bucks.
The Embiid was a great pick, however.
Saric was not drafted by the Sixers.
The Sixers drafted Elfrid Payton and swapped him for Saric, recouping a #1 pick.
What they did with the pick is another story.
Carter-Williams was traded because of his inability to shoot.
They got a #1 for him (Mikal Bridges) which isn't bad considering what he's done since.
Porzingas made it clear that he would not play in Philly and wouldn't even work out for them.
A multitude pf teams passed on Booker, too.
The Embiid and Saric delays actually abetted "The Process."
Hinkie was fired for all intents in purposes in 2016.
THE PROCESS WAS OVER AT THAT POINT.
Everything after that was not part of "The Process."
No team would have taken anyone over ROY, Simmons.
What happened after that was utter and complete mismanagement under traditional basketball theory, not "The Process."
The Fultz trade was as bad as the Bynum one.
There was more to the Bridges trade.
The Sixers also acquired an unprotected Heat pick which they used to obtain Harris.
Again, more traditional management, not "The Process."
The only good move was the Jimmy Butler trade.
Letting Butler walk and signing Horford were terrible post-Process moves.
Colangelo and Brand are terrible GM's, much worse than Morey.
Brown and Rivers are terrible coaches, much worse than Nurse.
It has taken eight years to figure out how to manage a team.
But, "The Process" wasn't the issue.
It left the Sixers with assets that they squandered when they terminated "The Process."
Please don't attribute everything to "The Process" which was just a re-branding of the word "rebuild."
The majority of the failures came under non-rebuild management.
Embid cries about his teammates when he underperforms every year in the playoffs what a leader
As a Sixers fan, the hidden cost of the process was creating a culture of losing. They had nothing to fall back on back then unlike teams like the Thunder where their tank years include guys like CP3 and Shai. I’m afraid they’ve put themselves in Knicks territory with all those years.
Embiid and Doc Rivers didn’t throw Ben Simmons under the bus. Ben dove underneath the bus.😂 Yes, “The Process” was a failure.
The league owes an apology to these fans. The process was a failure. All that losing for second round exits… they had a second round loss the year before the process
Philly hasn’t been past the second round since Iverson was tearing up the league 20 years ago. They’re the most overhyped team of the last 3-4 years.
this is an epic in mismanagement.
Who’s here after harden called morey a liar ?
And now watching the Raptors, Bucks, and Celtics win championships further adds salt to the wound.
Look I don’t really care. I just wanted to remind all the sixer fans that Jokic still the REAL MVP and he’s got a ring to back it up. Ironically he got it through his “Trust the process” unlike Embiid
You won't get a ring if Embiid is your superstar.
No elite franchise in sport has ever become elite by tanking for multiple years. They also chose Simmons over Butler and whiffed on the #1 pick that was Markelle Fultz
Who knew drafting 3 centers with top 5 pics was a bad idea 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Because embiid isn’t a star that you can count on in the playoffs. It’s really that simple.
Elton Brand was never fired, still holds the position of GM. There are a few other inaccuracies in this video
This might be the most painful thing I have ever had to watch
Shamelessly tanking is almost never rewarded.
Sell off your free agents, play your young players, find a star or two in the draft, add another via trade/free agency.
You willfully lose games for five years and don’t attempt to be competitive, you create a shit environment for all these “great” players you’re drafting.
Two of whom literally can’t shoot a basketball.
Was the Process a failure? Hell yes!
Their worst mistake was to let Jimmy Freaking Butler go.