Glad you found it useful ! The bike performs really well on the track in most conditions. For serious racing you will want an overall stiffer valving internally , but serious racers get their suspension done with all bikes anyway !
It may depend on your riding style, but it sounds like the front fork can be set up to help slow the bike down when you are off the throttle by being softer and compressing when off the throttle. Another advantage to that is when the front for compresses and shortens the bike becomes more nimble because the caster changes. So, in effect you can steer with the throttle using engine braking or accelerating. Let off the throttle to change your line and getting on to transfer weight to the rear to hold the line. Oversteer vs understeer. It is a different riding style that involves modulating the throttle in the power band. I come from a mtb background and I setup my suspension to get a lot of grip in the front and to be predictable and stable in the rear. I have a BMW z3 roadster with a bunch of aftermarket parts to make the suspension stable and predictable. I have set the suspension up to be playful and control the body weight with the throttle. For a car I want all the energy and movement to go into the suspension flexing and not into the bushings. The stock bushings make the suspension loose and do not provide feedback that I want. So, I have track polyurethane bushings to transfer the energy into moving the suspension and removing the mush. I want the body roll to be predictable. Given it has four wheels and not two, the car leans according to the g-forces and I cannot control that like a bike. But I want the body to pitch and yaw so I can feel what I am doing with the steering and throttle. As I am steering and modulating the throttle, I should feel the car coming together to get what I want at any moment. You really can steer with the throttle due to oversteer and understeer. Like cars, your wheelbase determines how nimble it will be or how stable it will be at high speeds. Also, your caster or angle of your fork for bikes will determine the nimbleness or stability. A raked chopper will not have a tight turning radius or be responsive at low speeds, but it will be great for cruising in a straight line at high speeds, because the wheelbase has been lengthened and the angle of the forks (caster) had changed.
Awesome feedback man. When it comes to suspension , it is highly subjective and most people have a preference. Thanks for your input. FYI I ride MTB also 👌
Congrats on the new bike ! I have not bothered to change the gearing so far. But I do plan to simply go up one tooth on the rear as I believe that is all I would need for a bit more pull in 3rd out of some corners. I’d suggest giving that a try.
I have a 23 300xc…70 hours on the bike and it has always felt harsh and horrible I spent $1200 on getting it tuned at 55 hours. It’s def better but still the faster I push the worse it feels I hate this bike lol
Thanks for the vid! I've been to the track a few times and playing with settings as well. I ride mostly off road with occasional track days.
Glad you found it useful ! The bike performs really well on the track in most conditions. For serious racing you will want an overall stiffer valving internally , but serious racers get their suspension done with all bikes anyway !
It may depend on your riding style, but it sounds like the front fork can be set up to help slow the bike down when you are off the throttle by being softer and compressing when off the throttle. Another advantage to that is when the front for compresses and shortens the bike becomes more nimble because the caster changes. So, in effect you can steer with the throttle using engine braking or accelerating. Let off the throttle to change your line and getting on to transfer weight to the rear to hold the line. Oversteer vs understeer. It is a different riding style that involves modulating the throttle in the power band. I come from a mtb background and I setup my suspension to get a lot of grip in the front and to be predictable and stable in the rear. I have a BMW z3 roadster with a bunch of aftermarket parts to make the suspension stable and predictable. I have set the suspension up to be playful and control the body weight with the throttle. For a car I want all the energy and movement to go into the suspension flexing and not into the bushings. The stock bushings make the suspension loose and do not provide feedback that I want. So, I have track polyurethane bushings to transfer the energy into moving the suspension and removing the mush. I want the body roll to be predictable. Given it has four wheels and not two, the car leans according to the g-forces and I cannot control that like a bike. But I want the body to pitch and yaw so I can feel what I am doing with the steering and throttle. As I am steering and modulating the throttle, I should feel the car coming together to get what I want at any moment. You really can steer with the throttle due to oversteer and understeer. Like cars, your wheelbase determines how nimble it will be or how stable it will be at high speeds. Also, your caster or angle of your fork for bikes will determine the nimbleness or stability. A raked chopper will not have a tight turning radius or be responsive at low speeds, but it will be great for cruising in a straight line at high speeds, because the wheelbase has been lengthened and the angle of the forks (caster) had changed.
Awesome feedback man. When it comes to suspension , it is highly subjective and most people have a preference. Thanks for your input. FYI I ride MTB also 👌
I just got a 23 XC 250. What gearing do you like for Moto? Great videos! Thanks!
Congrats on the new bike ! I have not bothered to change the gearing so far. But I do plan to simply go up one tooth on the rear as I believe that is all I would need for a bit more pull in 3rd out of some corners. I’d suggest giving that a try.
@@duffyrides did you try this yet? Recently got a '24 250XC and noticed a tad more pulling power in 3rd may be nice for tight stuff. Thanks!
I have a 23 300xc…70 hours on the bike and it has always felt harsh and horrible I spent $1200 on getting it tuned at 55 hours. It’s def better but still the faster I push the worse it feels I hate this bike lol
Who did the suspension for you ? Did you ever find a good setting ?