If you want the wheels of your dreams, make the 5 lug conversion. It's not hard. When you put 94-95 spindles the car, you also get WAY better brakes. I did my '91 rag top because I wanted Bullitt wheels seriously bad, and 11 years later, with Firestone Indy 500 tires,they look the business and drive amazingly well. I'm the original owner of my Fox and over thirty years later, every drive is a thrill, every time. I love it.
I’m in the same camp. Original owner of a 93 5.0 manual Coupe. Made some very specific adjustable suspension and chassis stiffener upgrades. Now dialed in with a set of 9” aftermarket cobra wheels on all four, and I agree the car is a thrill to drive, especially on the twisty roads.
I would have (and did) skip the heartburn about the wheels... My biggest complaint with the foxes was the brakes! They aren't safe over 80 MPH. Forget hitting the brakes at over 100 MPH!!! The alternator was #2 (shitty for big stereos)
First mod I did, and I am 75 years old(bragging now, kids) and wanted the dual piston PBR calipers on my Fox LTD ex-cop car. and yo can drill out the 5 holes in the rear drums, to avoid having to install the disc brake rear. It is just my sleeper/cruiser. EZ nut and bolt project. just be sure if you are reading this, and want to do it, be sure to change the passenger side brake line connector to a cone fitting. or you will pissout all your brake fluid. Ask me how I know.
I did the 94-98 Cobra conversion with 95 spindles back in 2000 or so, because everything needed replacing at 200k+ miles and there were no 4 lug wheels I liked except for the 93 Cobras. That included all suspension parts and steering. Luckily I got everything at a great price and even bought several extra spindles, like 8-9 sets, for $60-70 a set, selling them on eBay for $150-190 a set. That paid for all my upgrades and I was able to help a lot of people that couldn't find the spindles. At least there are a lot more options for 4 lug now.
I always Rocked the Cobra R's back in the day... I would have to say another flaw had to be the cup holder...What cup holder? Exactly we all know you had to get a bottle with a twist top or a fountain and put it between the e brake and passenger seat. Great Video Caleb... I still remember my buddies car with the two ten inch kickers and the five star 17 inch primes
I’ve had my fox since it was new . ROH and Simmons made wheels that fit amazing. I’ve had 16x9s, 16x8s, 17x 10s. All these wheels have center caps that clear.
I feel the 4-lugger's pain, the wheel choice always has sucked. I'm in a similar boat with my 5.0 MN-12 Thunderbird, the MN-12 chassis has wierd 5x4.25 bolt pattern.
@@Olds_Pwr for guys who prep their blocks properly it can be a myth. For those running untouched bottom ends, unbalanced, revving to the moon it's the truth. Vibration and high rpm kill these blocks
Ahhh…those were the days! I well remember the Impala SS wheels! Loved those wheels. Always wanted a Fox Body, but ended up getting a S197- I like it, but it lacks the nostalgia. The two most popular wheels in my area in High School (mid to late 90’s) were the Weld Draglites and…Centerlines. The old Centerlines were my favorite. The black mesh wheels were the best, but they always remind me of the Trans Am GTA’s
My dad bought a 88 gt with 17" roh Z06 wheels when I was 17, never seen another set in person I love them... what a fun car when the parents weren't home 🙂
From what I have observed in the past year of research, if you use 96-04 spindles, use the stock A arm's, and lowering springs, the geometry is close to the same. You won't have to use a bump steer kit and you won't have to spend $400 on ebay 94-95 spindles.
I had a set of 16” 4 lug ARE mesh rims with a polished lip on my 86 Turbo Coupe. They had a center cap which appeared to be a large lock nut. I assume they would fit the Fox Mustang as well. I thought they were the best back in the day.
Some of the cars in the early to mid 60's had 4 lug wheels (an early nova or mustang) but it was typically on a 6 cylinder car. You had 4 wheel drum brakes and a single pot master cylinder. Same shortcomings, limited stopping power and wheel choices.
30 years a front end man and tire guy ive had lots of problems with 4 lug not lighning up just right ive had the stock (rubber) 4 cylinder wheels and the phone dials and now i have the lmr ponys( 4 lug ) and still get that little bit out of out of round not centered vibration at high speed..would love to see some hubcentric rings for a foxboxy ( havent ever seen any)~~~!!!!!!
1974-1978 Mustangs had 4 lug too! My biggest complaint is the wire connectors, they aren't the weatherpack/Deusche connectors they have now that you just lift the tab and it comes off.
Yes sir the 17" chrome ponies on my wishlist for sure. I have a 93' red GT with the 16" satin finish ponies which I love and still gets heads turning with the SLP exhaust!
Pony wheels! Bogarts 4 lug wheels 93 17" cobra wheels 03 cobra Mesh wheels, had mesh style on a 88 lx 5.0 and my gmc typhoon and they looked so good. 10 holes with quick time pros 😆 Midwest here so I say rusted strut towers is weakest link
The GTs light switch. I have an hour drive to work at night and my first GT fox i ever owned. The switch got hot enough to burn your finger. Lights went out and i had to hook lights directly to battery to get home.
If you want 5 lug on the cheap for your Fox body buy 1987 Lincoln Mark 7 the front rotors was the same bearing size rotor size. I put these rotors on my 91 coupe and 2 left side rear axles out of a 1987 ford ranger to make the rear five lug. Only run rear ranger axles if your not planning on racing and if you are planning you need hardened axles no matter what lug you have.
I would have to say torque boxes especially if you start puttin any type of power down without subframe connectors or torque box reinforcement plates... they can ruin a nice car if you rip em out. takes alot to replace them.
I had 16” centerline Sabre’s back in early 2000’s and always wanted the swap for wheel choice and drum swap out. Lots of stuff now though for 5 lug swaps as well. I wanted the cobra svt wheel so bad as well😝🤣🤣
Love it! Agree 100% chrome ponies for the Foxbody win! A close second for me is the O.G. 01 Bulliitt wheels. Makes any fox a looker. Great content Caleb.
The problem, I think, isn't the just the 4 lug, but the bolt pattern. You can find a bunch of 4 lug in the 4x100 or 4x114. But for some reason ford does this 4x108 and they still do it. My Fiesta ST had 4 lug in the 4x108. If they would just change to a different 4 lug pattern it would possibly open up more options.
Man I miss MM&FF magazine and the 5.0 Superfords magazine to...those was the days...my collection of magazines is well over 1,000...unfortunately I got a lot of gmhightech magazine to only because I'm a Buick Grand National fan
Brakes, handling, rear end hop.. Plus, I've gone through several rear passenger tail lights & also had a nice clean 2in crack in the lower passenger side windshield, thanks to the flex of the once Notch-backed, now Convertible, LX 5.0, as those Verts were produced.. But I love the sound! (Don't know why Ford didn't have that done with better frame stiffening.)
My friends have rocked the mesh, I personally couldn't ever get into them, I love the SVE Series 1 rims as my #1 choice. I got 18x9 on the front 275/35/18 and 18x10 on the rear 295/35/18 and they look great on anything you put them on. I'm a New Edge guy myself but they would look great on any Fox or SN95 in my opinion...
The fox body stang wasn't the first with 4 lugs .There was some 60 mustang with 4 lugs , I believe the 6 cylinder ones and from 74 to 78 the Mustang II also came with 4 lugs regardless of engine and trans. And same for Fairmont and Zephyrs T-birds and Cougars of that era (fox body) I converted mine to 5 lug because the wheels i wanted only came from Ford with 5 lugs. They are 17x8 double 3 spoke from 94-95 stang GT with sport package. I got a set on mine and love the look. Front rotors from Mark 7 and rear axles and disk brakes from SN95 cars. Best mod i've done to better stopping the car. Too bad youtube(google) doesn't have a feature to add pictures or small video to the comments.
To convert to 5 bolt wheels was the easy part. A set of rotors off a 1985 Linclon will bolt right on to a 1987 or newer 5.0 mustang. The Back end needs two long axels and drums from a Ranger built before 1993. if Your mustang is older than 1987 you need Front rotors from a 2-wheel drive ranger.
I think you forget about the Thing that was the only choice and the best looking ones....Weld Draglites, Rodlites, which were available back in 80s and 90s in 8-10"...
Loved four of your five, would never ever use a "mesh" wheel on anything. Odd thing is now that I've gone 5 lug most all the wheels I find for lightweight drag wheels are four lug, go figure 🤔
Start coming: only a 5.0 engine. Back in the day had a set of Enkai? On my 84 gt. Could not find a set for my next 90 lx. Got the terminator wheel, then LMR came out with the baskets. Sigh 😕
My favorite wheel back then was the turbine wheel. Speaking for myself to todays standards I think it would be bad as hell if they brought that wheel back in a 5 lug 15x10 with 6.5 bs for the rears and front 15x4. Funny how things turn the opposite direction. Just like swapping back to the 4 eye bumper.
The fact that the iroc z had 5 lug wheels an all disc brakes all round Ford being cheap but had svo stuff laying around they could have put some on the 89 mustang gt to start the 25th anniversary off right but hey 225 HP they said don't need all that anyway
I know this is the biggest flaw which we all agree about the four lug vs five lug. But I think its a combination of a multiple things that made this car problematic from the get go. I would say having to weld or bolt on subframe connectors. The braking system all together. the 10,5 inch disc up front and drums in the rear as well as the smaller master cylinder set up is dangerous for high speed stopping. Other flaws is that foxbodys seem to be built with weaker metal points. Making us having to buy torque box kits, Stock T5 were prone to gear and syncho failures. Headlight switch that gets hot and fail as well as the weak dash dimmer switch. the ashtray being so easily broken and such flimsy wiper arm setup. Other flaws such as the plastic cowl or how easily the 6 eye headlight system is never spot on or easily faded. Overall. I owned my foxbody for 26 years and love the car but its had some many flaws that its more than just being a four lug setup in my opinion.
Four lugs never caused me any grief. My biggest Foxbody problem is people following me home in the middle of the night to wave $$$ under my nose. No, my Calypso Notchback is not for sale, no, you're not gonna LS swap my Fox. Not that there's anything wrong with that.
IMO, keeping body lines straight. Especially door fitment. My 89 currently has an issue with the bottom of the drivers door being sunk in.. its not rolled in.. but its at least a 1/4 inch sunk in compared to the rocker. There is no in and out adjustment on the hinges. I have searched and searched for a correction or someone else with the same issue. Most of the articles are on window frame alignment, sagging hinges, etc. Its the same front of the door to the back. Door closes fine, doesnt rattle. It just bothers me every time i look at it!
I'd put the entire suspension design as a flaw, but that's what made it so affordable. you want negative camber in the front? add Thunderbird lower control arms. Want rear disc brakes? learn from the SVO and hunt down a Lincoln setup. Want a manual rack and pinion for drag racing? Go find a 1979 Fairmont or other Fox rather than paying more for Flaming River. Can't clear your rear slicks? Pull the Quadrashock. another flaw, shared with the F and G bodies from GM...you produce car, especially a unibody, for over a decade and you get aged design and panels that don't fit as well since you've worn out the stamping dies. a lack of rim choice didn't bother me only because I grew up in the 1970's where every Chevy car or truck hot rodded got the Corvette rally rims...or Cragar SS...maybe a Daisy/Coke bottle rim or torq thrust to be really special.
Mann about 5 years ago I had bought a set of almost completely perfect chrome ponies for 125$ only needed rear tires. (To put on my fox in my photo) well I ended up selling them for 200$ they were staggered 17s and my inbox blew up. After I sold them I realized how much they actually went for 🤦🏼♂️ wish I would’ve held onto them
Pony's are the best looking wheel on these cars! Silver or polished aluminum look best, not much for chrome. Aluminum spoke (or as you refer to them) mesh spoke look real good on these cars.
If you want the wheels of your dreams, make the 5 lug conversion. It's not hard. When you put 94-95 spindles the car, you also get WAY better brakes. I did my '91 rag top because I wanted Bullitt wheels seriously bad, and 11 years later, with Firestone Indy 500 tires,they look the business and drive amazingly well. I'm the original owner of my Fox and over thirty years later, every drive is a thrill, every time. I love it.
I’m in the same camp. Original owner of a 93 5.0 manual Coupe. Made some very specific adjustable suspension and chassis stiffener upgrades. Now dialed in with a set of 9” aftermarket cobra wheels on all four, and I agree the car is a thrill to drive, especially on the twisty roads.
Awesome video Caleb! If anyone has any questions about 4 lug wheels for their Fox, feel free to email or give us a call!
I would have (and did) skip the heartburn about the wheels... My biggest complaint with the foxes was the brakes! They aren't safe over 80 MPH. Forget hitting the brakes at over 100 MPH!!! The alternator was #2 (shitty for big stereos)
Yes, this.
Honestly in my experience the alternator is shitty even just with regular stereo. The lights dim when I turn my blower motor on lol
First mod I did, and I am 75 years old(bragging now, kids) and wanted the dual piston PBR calipers on my Fox LTD ex-cop car. and yo can drill out the 5 holes in the rear drums, to avoid having to install the disc brake rear. It is just my sleeper/cruiser. EZ nut and bolt project. just be sure if you are reading this, and want to do it, be sure to change the passenger side brake line connector to a cone fitting. or you will pissout all your brake fluid. Ask me how I know.
I did the 94-98 Cobra conversion with 95 spindles back in 2000 or so, because everything needed replacing at 200k+ miles and there were no 4 lug wheels I liked except for the 93 Cobras. That included all suspension parts and steering. Luckily I got everything at a great price and even bought several extra spindles, like 8-9 sets, for $60-70 a set, selling them on eBay for $150-190 a set. That paid for all my upgrades and I was able to help a lot of people that couldn't find the spindles. At least there are a lot more options for 4 lug now.
Yes sir! Back in those days you had to do your homework to make it happen
I have 17x8 Snypers on my '88. I love them, no plans to change them. It's a cruiser not a bruiser.
Those are 100% old school cool
I always Rocked the Cobra R's back in the day... I would have to say another flaw had to be the cup holder...What cup holder? Exactly we all know you had to get a bottle with a twist top or a fountain and put it between the e brake and passenger seat. Great Video Caleb... I still remember my buddies car with the two ten inch kickers and the five star 17 inch primes
4 lug just because of wheel and brake choice limitations. Thank you LMR for some cool wheels available now
Yes sir, 100%
I’ve had my fox since it was new . ROH and Simmons made wheels that fit amazing. I’ve had 16x9s, 16x8s, 17x 10s. All these wheels have center caps that clear.
I feel the 4-lugger's pain, the wheel choice always has sucked. I'm in a similar boat with my 5.0 MN-12 Thunderbird, the MN-12 chassis has wierd 5x4.25 bolt pattern.
I have a Mark 8, same bolt pattern as your bird. I have Vors brand T4 wheels. They custom drilled the bolt pattern at no cost for me.
Yup I got em too! Got 16s now but when they need replacement I will by the 17s same wheel again! Love em. Going on my black gt vert when it done.
I'm guessing that the flaw is the 500hp block issue.
Could be the lack of chassis strength too.
Truthfully, modern tuning has solved that issue, good point though
@@Olds_Pwr for guys who prep their blocks properly it can be a myth. For those running untouched bottom ends, unbalanced, revving to the moon it's the truth. Vibration and high rpm kill these blocks
Really enjoyed the history, I never would have guessed that wheels were limited for fox's back in the day 🤙 my favorites is the mesh that 4to8 had 😍
Ahhh…those were the days! I well remember the Impala SS wheels! Loved those wheels. Always wanted a Fox Body, but ended up getting a S197- I like it, but it lacks the nostalgia.
The two most popular wheels in my area in High School (mid to late 90’s) were the Weld Draglites and…Centerlines. The old Centerlines were my favorite. The black mesh wheels were the best, but they always remind me of the Trans Am GTA’s
My dad bought a 88 gt with 17" roh Z06 wheels when I was 17, never seen another set in person I love them... what a fun car when the parents weren't home 🙂
How has no one, including LMR, reproduce the 94-95 spindles?
From what I have observed in the past year of research, if you use 96-04 spindles, use the stock A arm's, and lowering springs, the geometry is close to the same. You won't have to use a bump steer kit and you won't have to spend $400 on ebay 94-95 spindles.
I had a set of 16” 4 lug ARE mesh rims with a polished lip on my 86 Turbo Coupe. They had a center cap which appeared to be a large lock nut. I assume they would fit the Fox Mustang as well. I thought they were the best back in the day.
Had them on my 90 GT. looked great I'm silver but pain to keep clean
I got my 17 inch chrome Pony Rs in the spring of 04 from the Maramont industries. Still love them. Cool video.
Biggest flaw : everyone putting a freaking Chevy motor in one.
Had a 92 GT back on 2000 and did the 1987-1993 Mustang 5-Lug Conversion Kit - 28 Spline Axles than purchased Cobra rims black powder coated.
Some of the cars in the early to mid 60's had 4 lug wheels (an early nova or mustang) but it was typically on a 6 cylinder car. You had 4 wheel drum brakes and a single pot master cylinder. Same shortcomings, limited stopping power and wheel choices.
Old falcons and mustang ll had 4 lug
I got a set of ZR wheels on my 86gt. They look like saleen reps to me and absolutely love the look of them
I had ROH Snipers on my 89 LX and they were sicccc
I have a mint staggered set of four luggers on my 93 coupe. I'm thinking they are SUPER rare now.
30 years a front end man and tire guy ive had lots of problems with 4 lug not lighning up just right ive had the stock (rubber) 4 cylinder wheels and the phone dials and now i have the lmr ponys( 4 lug ) and still get that little bit out of out of round not centered vibration at high speed..would love to see some hubcentric rings for a foxboxy ( havent ever seen any)~~~!!!!!!
You can get them made for any wheel,I ordered some for my foxbody,just measure and order....
1974-1978 Mustangs had 4 lug too! My biggest complaint is the wire connectors, they aren't the weatherpack/Deusche connectors they have now that you just lift the tab and it comes off.
I remember shopping for wheels in 2001. Stock ponies were considered custom on pre 91 cars lol
Yes sir the 17" chrome ponies on my wishlist for sure. I have a 93' red GT with the 16" satin finish ponies which I love and still gets heads turning with the SLP exhaust!
Pony wheels!
Bogarts 4 lug wheels
93 17" cobra wheels
03 cobra
Mesh wheels, had mesh style on a 88 lx 5.0 and my gmc typhoon and they looked so good.
10 holes with quick time pros 😆
Midwest here so I say rusted strut towers is weakest link
When I built mine back in the day. This was one of the things I changed. 5 lug.
Great Video Brother! I am partial to the 4 lug 17" Pony Wheels 17x8 in the front and 17x10 rear...
not sure its a drawback really but the fact that it was a good platform to drag race has made them hard to find not all cut up
I just run ponies and draglites on mine switching between the two with stock brakes, and just a HCI setup and everything works just fine
Great video. No mention of old school welds not the little and bigs but all 4 the same size.
Never thought I'd have the sve mesh wheels on my granada wagon lol I love em!!
I have a set of 2000 cobra replica 4 lug 18 in wheels,went to foxtoberfest and was the only one with them very rare n good looking
Those look wicked on a fox! Wonder what happened to them?
I agree. I have the same 18x9 cobra replica wheels on my black 93 coupe. The look never gets old.
My biggest fault with mine is the clutch cable design. I've never cared for the clutch cable
The GTs light switch. I have an hour drive to work at night and my first GT fox i ever owned. The switch got hot enough to burn your finger. Lights went out and i had to hook lights directly to battery to get home.
Actually had 1 piston baer 4 lug brakes on my 92 emerald green Notch. Put white ponies on it too.
On my 79 I ran the rear end off an 85 turbo coup. T Bird.. With the master cylinder and proposing value.
My 5 four lug wheels are
5. Terminators
4. Turbine('88-'90 Gt)
3. 16" silver Ponies
2. Mesh
1. '93 SVT Cobra 17"
If you want 5 lug on the cheap for your Fox body buy 1987 Lincoln Mark 7 the front rotors was the same bearing size rotor size. I put these rotors on my 91 coupe and 2 left side rear axles out of a 1987 ford ranger to make the rear five lug. Only run rear ranger axles if your not planning on racing and if you are planning you need hardened axles no matter what lug you have.
I've owned my '80 Capri since '88 and the biggest drawback is the brakes and front suspension.
I would have to say torque boxes especially if you start puttin any type of power down without subframe connectors or torque box reinforcement plates... they can ruin a nice car if you rip em out. takes alot to replace them.
Unfortunately the Mustang II’s were 4 lug as well lol. Would love to pic someone’s brain at ford as to why they did 4 lug at all!
Forgot about the Mustang II, good point
@@FoxcastMediaDon't feel bad hell everybody forgot about the mustang 2s
None better than my Centerline Scorpions 17" keep up the great work!
Definitely agree the saleen reps and 17 inch pony wheels are the best look on a Foxbody!
I had 16” centerline Sabre’s back in early 2000’s and always wanted the swap for wheel choice and drum swap out.
Lots of stuff now though for 5 lug swaps as well. I wanted the cobra svt wheel so bad as well😝🤣🤣
That’s a pretty good list, some really nice choices…
I think we need to do a new edge list too!
@@FoxcastMedia absolutely
What was messed up was besides the 4 lug l, was the 86 svo had 5 lug but couldn't do the other foxbody
I have to say not having cup holders!!! Lol
I agree with you 109% I love 17 chrome pony wheels I will own a set one day lol for now am rocking the 16 pony wheels from 1991
Love it! Agree 100% chrome ponies for the Foxbody win! A close second for me is the O.G. 01 Bulliitt wheels. Makes any fox a looker. Great content Caleb.
The problem, I think, isn't the just the 4 lug, but the bolt pattern. You can find a bunch of 4 lug in the 4x100 or 4x114. But for some reason ford does this 4x108 and they still do it. My Fiesta ST had 4 lug in the 4x108. If they would just change to a different 4 lug pattern it would possibly open up more options.
I have agree the alternator was way to under powered
Man I miss MM&FF magazine and the 5.0 Superfords magazine to...those was the days...my collection of magazines is well over 1,000...unfortunately I got a lot of gmhightech magazine to only because I'm a Buick Grand National fan
Love talking about all the had to haves when they dropped! Foxbodys rule
Brakes, handling, rear end hop.. Plus, I've gone through several rear passenger tail lights & also had a nice clean 2in crack in the lower passenger side windshield, thanks to the flex of the once Notch-backed, now Convertible, LX 5.0, as those Verts were produced.. But I love the sound! (Don't know why Ford didn't have that done with better frame stiffening.)
My friends have rocked the mesh, I personally couldn't ever get into them, I love the SVE Series 1 rims as my #1 choice. I got 18x9 on the front 275/35/18 and 18x10 on the rear 295/35/18 and they look great on anything you put them on. I'm a New Edge guy myself but they would look great on any Fox or SN95 in my opinion...
The fox body stang wasn't the first with 4 lugs .There was some 60 mustang with 4 lugs , I believe the 6 cylinder ones and from 74 to 78 the Mustang II also came with 4 lugs regardless of engine and trans. And same for Fairmont and Zephyrs T-birds and Cougars of that era (fox body) I converted mine to 5 lug because the wheels i wanted only came from Ford with 5 lugs. They are 17x8 double 3 spoke from 94-95 stang GT with sport package. I got a set on mine and love the look. Front rotors from Mark 7 and rear axles and disk brakes from SN95 cars. Best mod i've done to better stopping the car. Too bad youtube(google) doesn't have a feature to add pictures or small video to the comments.
To convert to 5 bolt wheels was the easy part. A set of rotors off a 1985 Linclon will bolt right on to a 1987 or newer 5.0 mustang. The Back end needs two long axels and drums from a Ranger built before 1993. if Your mustang is older than 1987 you need Front rotors from a 2-wheel drive ranger.
The Fox Body was NOT the first 4 lug Mustang. The early first gen Mustangs had 4 lugs on the 6 cyl cars and all Mustang II's 74-78 were also 4 lug.
The 17 inch Pony is definitely #1...it just looks right in every way.
I can’t disagree with all of those top 5! Hopefully pops car will get some 17 inch chrome pony’s for the summer and turbines for the winter👊. IMO
The biggest flaw is that it needs more power, however that's where we come in...
Truth! But from the times they were new, they were overachievers
Compared to today 1979-93 wasn't known for great power, from basically everyone
Full agreement with your list, except for the chrome pony star, i love brushed silver pony star, they still look so awesome
great video content Bud.
Nice History lesson but Mustang 4 lug V8 cars started in 75 with v6 and 4 bangers in 1974!
In my opinion the biggest problem with the fox body was its rear end that tended to bind up when it would roll and squat angles were to big
4 Lug Life isn’t for everyone but it’s 4 Lug Fun for me since Chrome Ponies are the best looking and period correct enough for the earlier Foxes .
I think you forget about the Thing that was the only choice and the best looking ones....Weld Draglites, Rodlites, which were available back in 80s and 90s in 8-10"...
There was more aftermarket wheel choices in the 80s and 90s just most of them were 14s and 15s
The first year Mustang was 4lug was 64.5 6cyl cars then in 1974 all Mustangs were 4 lug.
I picked up a 91 lx fastback, and it has a set of 4 lug 16" (nock off) chrome 5 spoke cobra wheels (which would have been 5 lug 17")
Not to dispute, the 74-78 Mustang II stangs were 4 lug as well.
Loved four of your five, would never ever use a "mesh" wheel on anything.
Odd thing is now that I've gone 5 lug most all the wheels I find for lightweight drag wheels are four lug, go figure 🤔
If those Saleen wheels could fit in a 2023 GT. I'll buy them right away. Those Saleen family wheels would be killer on a 2023 GT.
List is spot on bro. I couldn't agree more with number 1 The chrome ponies take the show Everytime
Start coming: only a 5.0 engine. Back in the day had a set of Enkai? On my 84 gt. Could not find a set for my next 90 lx. Got the terminator wheel, then LMR came out with the baskets. Sigh 😕
Great video - forgetting American racing wheels, they had five star(like saleen ssc) and mesh wheels along with enkei 🤟
My favorite wheel back then was the turbine wheel. Speaking for myself to todays standards I think it would be bad as hell if they brought that wheel back in a 5 lug 15x10 with 6.5 bs for the rears and front 15x4. Funny how things turn the opposite direction. Just like swapping back to the 4 eye bumper.
LMR is crushing it, for sure. Also, we are old, lol.
Great list! I would say the 17” LMR TRX replicas are way up the list on four eye cars
The fact that the iroc z had 5 lug wheels an all disc brakes all round Ford being cheap but had svo stuff laying around they could have put some on the 89 mustang gt to start the 25th anniversary off right but hey 225 HP they said don't need all that anyway
I know this is the biggest flaw which we all agree about the four lug vs five lug. But I think its a combination of a multiple things that made this car problematic from the get go. I would say having to weld or bolt on subframe connectors. The braking system all together. the 10,5 inch disc up front and drums in the rear as well as the smaller master cylinder set up is dangerous for high speed stopping. Other flaws is that foxbodys seem to be built with weaker metal points. Making us having to buy torque box kits, Stock T5 were prone to gear and syncho failures. Headlight switch that gets hot and fail as well as the weak dash dimmer switch. the ashtray being so easily broken and such flimsy wiper arm setup. Other flaws such as the plastic cowl or how easily the 6 eye headlight system is never spot on or easily faded. Overall. I owned my foxbody for 26 years and love the car but its had some many flaws that its more than just being a four lug setup in my opinion.
Four lugs never caused me any grief. My biggest Foxbody problem is people following me home in the middle of the night to wave $$$ under my nose. No, my Calypso Notchback is not for sale, no, you're not gonna LS swap my Fox. Not that there's anything wrong with that.
I replaced my 91 with drive axle and front suspension with a 98 model sn95 one shot all around disk brake and five lug
The brakes! What's your opinion on the best 4 lug brake upgrade?
IMO, keeping body lines straight. Especially door fitment. My 89 currently has an issue with the bottom of the drivers door being sunk in.. its not rolled in.. but its at least a 1/4 inch sunk in compared to the rocker. There is no in and out adjustment on the hinges. I have searched and searched for a correction or someone else with the same issue. Most of the articles are on window frame alignment, sagging hinges, etc. Its the same front of the door to the back. Door closes fine, doesnt rattle. It just bothers me every time i look at it!
The only and best looking wheel to put on a Fox Body is the Pony R 🤩🙏🏼👍🏼
In my 92 because of the airbags being introduced no tilt steering.. I guess they couldn't figure it
I love the 03-04 cobra wheels.
Good Video Man!!
Nice Top 5 Wheel Choices!!
I get this way too sometimes reminiscing about these cars...tongue tied and all. Had me laughing! Great Passion and Video Sir!
Wheels that are not factory style replicas would be nice (in 4lug)
Fifteen52 does but they are 1,500+
You forgot centerline convo pro wheels. Best lightest 4 lug wheel that ever lived
Biggest flaw was the design of the front frame/ strut towers that vaporized them into rust north of WV.
Great video, I agree with that list.
I'd put the entire suspension design as a flaw, but that's what made it so affordable. you want negative camber in the front? add Thunderbird lower control arms. Want rear disc brakes? learn from the SVO and hunt down a Lincoln setup. Want a manual rack and pinion for drag racing? Go find a 1979 Fairmont or other Fox rather than paying more for Flaming River. Can't clear your rear slicks? Pull the Quadrashock.
another flaw, shared with the F and G bodies from GM...you produce car, especially a unibody, for over a decade and you get aged design and panels that don't fit as well since you've worn out the stamping dies.
a lack of rim choice didn't bother me only because I grew up in the 1970's where every Chevy car or truck hot rodded got the Corvette rally rims...or Cragar SS...maybe a Daisy/Coke bottle rim or torq thrust to be really special.
Mann about 5 years ago I had bought a set of almost completely perfect chrome ponies for 125$ only needed rear tires. (To put on my fox in my photo) well I ended up selling them for 200$ they were staggered 17s and my inbox blew up. After I sold them I realized how much they actually went for 🤦🏼♂️ wish I would’ve held onto them
Pony's are the best looking wheel on these cars! Silver or polished aluminum look best, not much for chrome. Aluminum spoke (or as you refer to them) mesh spoke look real good on these cars.
The unloved mustang you guys know witch one I'm talking about the mustang II. It was also 4 lug