Wall Cabinet; shop sawn veneer on sliding doors
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 15 ก.ค. 2024
- Heres how I built a wall cabinet with shop sawn veneer on sliding doors. This is the second upload of this video due to an edit. I apologize if your comments were deleted.
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You are the Bob Ross of wood working.
Thank you?
@@MikeFarrington You're welcome?
Another great project completed with real skill and accuracy.
Thank you.
Mike Farrington, man of a thousand routers
Yes indeed and always adding more.
My wife has dubbed you "The Bob Ross of Woodworking" thought you might appreciate hearing that
Ha! I grew up watching that guy...Happy little pieces of wood.
I almost started crying when you painted it black ... but it is clear that the client asked for it. Thank you for showing your excellent work.
Thank you, to each their own.
From one cabinet maker to another. Great job man. Seriously though. What the heck kinda people gives this video a thumbs down?
Thank you very much. Everyone is welcome to their opinion.
Hey mike, I’m a 45 year old uk carpenter, and I love your channel brother!! You have some mad skills👍👍👍
Thank you sir!
Really like your style of videos. Informative, entertaining and good to see a real professional at work. Appreciate that you share considerations regarding clients wishes, material cost etc. Keep up the good work!
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Thank you. Will do.
Thanks for sharing, beautiful work and end result. Also for sharing the outside of your house as well as the inside, great scenery.
Thank you Sam. We are fortunate to live in a beautiful area.
I recently subscribed to your channel and am enjoying your videos very much. You do excellent work! I have learned a lot of little tips and tricks from you that I've been able to incorporate into my work as a finish carpenter. Your voice is quite soothing and makes watching your videos relaxing as all get out. Thanks for sharing.
Thank you. Great to have you onboard. Stay tuned for more.
Hello from Ireland! Just started wood working ,your descriptions are perfect .Many thanks 😀
Thank you. I love Ireland, its beautiful.
Thank you Mike- appreciate the feed back!. Again excellent work-
My pleasure.
Its great seeing a true professional working . Your smooth narration compliments your working very well. I think you have the best workshop in TH-cam Land !
Thank you. It has been fun to share. I am fortunate to have my shop, thank you for the kind words. I will say its a never ending work in progress.
Watched all your videos which are a joy. Great narrative and i like the fact that you take the time to reply to peoples questions. Keep it up
Thank you. For some reason I thought it would be funny if I didn't respond to this comment. My sensible side overruled that idea.
The inner dialogue on that would have been priceless.
Those sliding doors with finger holes remind me of furniture from the 70's, cool bro.
Thank you. I'm a fan of the 70's.
Love your projects and videos. Thanks for sharing with us!
Thank you very much.
Quickly becoming a new favorite. Thank you!
Thank you Matt.
Nice work. I agree with you on staining hardwood. I'm a cabinet installer in new england and its been popular over the years along with a light stain with a dark glaze, it gives a beautiful new cabinet a dirty patina. I just dont get it. The past few years I've been seeing too many painted cabinets. Country blue, cream, greys and whites of all shades. I like your shop and projects. Keep the videos coming.
Hey Mike, I’m a custom cabinet maker on eastern Long Island and I really enjoy your videos. 😀
Thank you very much. Always nice to hear from another builder.
You got my dream shop. Keep up the good videos I enjoy watching your videos learned a lot thanks a lot
Thank you Marc. Im very fortunate to have my shop.
Well done, it's quite a beautiful piece.
Thank you.
Beautiful work as always. I have one of those Rockler shelf pin jigs. I'm starting to get tired of drilling hundreds of holes per project... I think its about time I get one of those 2 things you got there... I imagine a router based jig is a lot easier on the user.
A router is a great way to drill shelf pin holes.
Yeah man, that’s a great looking cabinet.
Thank you Mark.
Another interesting project. Good videography too.
Thank you Chris. I'm working hard to make the quality of my audio and video as good as possible.
I find your videos really soothing to watch! Maybe it was the dance moves?! It's always a shame when lovely wood grain is smothered with a stain that completely overpowers it, but like you say, what the customer wants...
Thanks for the vids, hope to see more. Happy Christmas.
Thank you. Agreed, putting a stain on hardwood is not my first choice, but it is the trend right now. Happy Christmas!
Mike Farrington...your the goodest
😁👌
Ha! Thank you.
When I was at College of The Redwoods I learned this method of veneer work. I've never gone back to commercial veneers. I have found that 3/4" wide BEIGE masking tape will stretch as you apply it at a 90° angle to the joint. Then it will pull the joint tight (assuming a well jointed edge). I use the same method to apply solid wood edge banding to sheet goods- tho I'm looking forward to trying the spring clamp/ inner tube method.
I'll have to try the 3/4" beige stuff. I have always used the blue because its what I have on hand for other projects. I used tape for edge banding for years, after making the inner tube clamps, I'm not looking back. Its totally great to hear from a College of The Redwoods grad. I would love to spend some time there.
Mike Farrington Yes C of R was a great experience. The main advantage of the regular old beige masking tape is that we felt it stretched more than the blue tape.
(A point that I neglected to make clear)
It prolly holds a bit better as well.
@@daveparker5569 In thinking about the two tapes, I think I can see your point. Either way I'm going to give it a try.
lovely i think adding gold metal around the finger hole still letting your fingers go throw of courses would of matched it really nicely too love the detail of your work
Thank you. I agree, I wanted to add a screw together liner to the finer pull. That choice was out of my control.
Wow, you’ve got some nice tools, nice machinery, envy you. Keep loading up more videos, please.
Thank you. Will do.
Very nice work!!! Keep up the good work!
Thank you, will do.
Good job dude!
Love the sliding doors. Wish you have more details and some closeups. Overall, very nice video, great job again!
Thank you. Its always tough to know how much work to put into a video. I wish I had more time to spend on the details within a video.
Solid work
Thank you!
simple design but beautiful
Thank you. I think it turned out pretty cool.
i just started watching your vids and really enjoy them! love your sliding table saw and would love more info about it? thanks and keep them coming
Thank you! I will include some details about my sliding saw in a future video. Stay tuned.
I have the same drill press i love it!
Its been a really good tool. Never given me a problem.
You are my new, favourite TH-camr.
Wow! Thank you very much.
It's worth mentioning to make sure the overlap of the sliding doors is enough to stop the finger holes going past the other door....unless you like broken fingers!
This is good point. Thank you.
Nice work as ever my man
Thank you.
Nice work, I definitely learned using the domino machines you need the vac hooked up, easier for the machines to mortise and keeps the bits lasting longer. Can't sharpen those bits, tried it before then the tenons no longer fit. CMT has the bits a bit cheaper...
Couldn't agree more. In the next couple months I hope to build a vacuum setup specifically designed for bench tools. If it turns out cool, I'll do a build video.
Great video, Mike. Thanks for the detailed veneering lesson. I was wondering if you have a particular favorite bandsaw resaw blade you would recommend for this process.
Thank you. I do not. I just use the cheap blades. If I am on my A game I will throw on a fresh blade when starting a resawing project. At some point I want to try one of the carbide tipped blades.
I like the color
Thank you.
Good job
Thanks
Very Nice
Thank you much!
I dig it.
Thank you.
Another great video! Where did you get your lift?
Thank you. I bought it off a guy who was liquidating his shop during the last market downturn. When I bought it, I'm guessing it didn't have much use on it. It is certainly the tool I spend the most time in front of.
Im surprised to see that glass shelf didn’t need any support in the middle.
I use an online glass calculator. Put in the dimensions and it spits out what thickness glass is needed for a specific weight and how much it will deflect.
How have I not seen this... what the FRENCH TOAST
Ha! Thank you.
super clean job...love the dark (ebony?) finish
Thank you. Good eye, its a 50 50 mix of ebony and true black stains.
Hello Mike- I just recently watched you under stair storage video- great job and great idea. How stable is untreated (painted) MDF in a garage. Are you concerned about the effect of humidity?- Nice work
Thank you Tony. I find MDF to be stable enough. It would be better to add a finish, but I live in an ultra dry climate. If things get a little squishy I can always add a finish later.
Nice clean piece. Sometimes less is more. Nice job mike.
Just wondering, i noticed in the background a grey looking clamping rack. Can you tell me anything about it? I.e...make/model, wether you like it or think its so so..lol thanks bud! And thanks for sharing.
Thank you. For my tastes, less is more most of the time. I think the clamp rack you are talking about is made by Plano. It is a series of clamps that put pressure in all four directions. It works very good but, its a challenge to load and there are size limitations. I got the camps as a partial trade when buying another tool. I ended up selling them because it just seemed like my glue ups were outside the size capacity of the system.
Great video. Curious as to why glue and not contact cement, knowing that you need to be quite careful in the use of that stuff.
Contact cement really doesn't bond the two materials together very well. Contact cement works with paper backed veneer and laminate, but for solid wood the bond is a little to squishy for my tastes.
Another great video as usual. You mentioned, in the video, that you like your bluetooth hearing protectrion. Would you mind telling me what brand and model you use. I'm tired of earbuds and I think I would like to try the bluetooth.
Not sure I made mention of bluetooth, but I bounce between using earbuds plugged into my phone and Stanley ear muffs. The ear muffs have am/fm and a 1/8" input jack. I recommend the Stanley ear muffs, they are well built. I will say if you have a big head like I do, its a tight fit. I wear either a large or XL helmet and the muffs just barely fit my head.
Nice finish, as usual. I know you prefer water-based spray finishes, so I can probably assume you used one here. Mind sharing the info on it? I'm getting burned out on pre- and post-catalyzed lacquers. Such a pain cleaning up afterwards.
Thank you. I like Kem Aqua for a water clear. Its certainly not as strong as post-catalyzed solvent base, but it sprays easy, its easy to clean and looks nice.
Great video. Like your process. Do you have any issues with the titebond glue with shopsawn veneers? I have used with commercial veneers (thin veneers), but have read elsewhere that it may not be strong enough for shopsawn (thicker) veneers
Thank you! I have never had any veneer, shop sawn or commercial, give me any problems when using Titebond. The only issue I have had is rippling due to using too much glue (glue pooling under veneer). Otherwise I have had good luck. I have used all types of Titebond, cold press glue, and Gorilla glue, everyone has given me good results. I think amount of glue and proper clamping pressure are the big problem areas for woodworkers.
I like your chanel man
Thank you.
Beautiful work mike
I was wondering what the minimum hp requirement for a bandsaw to cut veneers would be ?
Thanks Josh
I was able to cut some pretty nice veneers on a 1/2 hp saw. It’s was slow going but worked fine. With that said things get much quicker when the hp goes up.
Looks slick! What kind of glass did you use for the doors and the shelf?
Thank you. I used 1/4" glass. for the doors and 3/8" for the shelf.
Thanks for the video, Mike. What is your preferred product for staining really dark colors? I've been using Sherwin Williams BAC wiping stain with mostly good results but curious what you used here. Thanks again.
I like transtints, and Mohawk stains. I also like dura seal.
I love this channel. I also just got a 4k TV. Can you please upload some 4k wood working videos for me?
Thank you very much. I'm some distance away from being about to afford a 4k camera at this point. I'll get there, but it will take some time.
Great instruction Mike. I like customers with no timeline! I'm curious, did you get the glass shelf before you built the cabinet or after it was built ? Just wondering if they cut it right or if you had them cut it after it was built.
Thank you. I always order glass after the project has been built.
Try using strapping tape, works well on taping up veneers and miters.
I like that idea. One upside to blue tape is it comes off easy, plus I always have a bunch of it laying around my shop.
Yes it does come out easy. I always found that if you have a light layer of dust on your piece, painters tape doesn’t stick to well. 😁
Good to know. Thank you.
TB3 Is special!
Thats tite bond 3 right, if so, yes, its the best.
The weather seems to be very changeable where you are is moisture control an issue? How do you manage it?
We have crazy weather here, but for the most part the relative humidity is low. So to answer your question, I let stuff acclimate to my shop for as long as I can afford, other then that I do little if anything to control moisture.
Fantastic as always.
What R is that tiny roundover bit? Thank you.
Thank you. Its a 3/32" radius.
@@MikeFarrington Thanks Mike for your answer. I see you using it quite often in your videos and you even mentioned the size in one of them but I wasn't sure if I heard it or understood well - fractions and metric don't go well together :)
So 1.5mm it is.
Edit:
SHIT it's actually 2.3813mm
@@AndreaArzensek Yes, Closer to 2.3mm. Look on Amana's website, they have several different tiny radius router bits.
@@MikeFarrington Thanks, I found R 2mm (1/4 shaft) on Ebay for $15, it isn't Amana but should work ok.
Good stuff.
Really nice end product. Serious question: Why do you go through the trouble of making veneer and attaching it to MDF? When you factor lumber price + time, would it be similar to just glue oak boards together?
Admittedly I have a negative bias towards MDF.
MDF is stable, solid lumber is not. If the doors warp in the tracks they will be very hard to move. The veneered MDF is an attempt to keep the doors flat and sliding smooth.
Señor Mike one of the things I don't see you do is to square your projects, is this because is not needed or you do this off camera? Thank you.
When I clamped up, I checked square. It was pretty close. I also planned to force the cabinet into square when I mounted it on the wall. Since it didn't have a back there was a little play.
Curious what the D rings on your grey trash can are for?
They were for when I used that can for dust collection. The d rings allowed me to strap the lid down.
i understand veneering both sides of a substrate to prevent movement, is it as important with a thicker veneer? or is for aesthetic reasons? thanks
I don't know for sure. My guess is its equally important. Years ago when I was learning to veneer, I made up several test panels with both commercial and shop sawn veneer. On most of them I only veneered one side, all of them warped in differing amounts.
Mike Farrington thanks for the answer ;0)
Have you ever tried contact cement to glue veneer together?
Yes I have, but contact cement should really only be used on paper backed veneer. This is because the finish applied over the veneer can weaken the bond.
What model router are you using whrn you do the roundover?
Its a Porter Cable PC310, its no longer made.
Is that a 1/4" or 1/2" glass shelf? It looks thin but wasn't sure.
1/2".
In your later videos you appear to favour the biscuit joiner over the domino, any insight into why? At the furniture school I'm attending they drive domino pretty hard into us, we've not even seen a biscuit machine around. I understand they operate on the same principal, but would be interested to know if the domino is honestly worth the price tag it commands.
Regarding shop veneer, I made an ash drop leaf table with shop veneer. Fun to make, easier to handle, glue, cut, sand, finish. I was (in my head) laughing at all the other students working with the 0.6mm dried up old veneer from the school. Of course, it won't save me every time, but it certainly opened up massive potential for maximising product and, I suppose, possibly saving a fair bit of cash.
I like using the biscuit joiner in 1/2" material when the joint is wider (more than about 2 1/2"). Dominos for 1/2" material are tiny. This is why I have used it a lot in the last few videos. Its fast and cheap to use. The biscuit joint resists twist better than a domino. I also like using it when I need a slight offset between two pieces, like when glue edging onto a shelf. My biscuit joiner has a feature where I can raise and lower the cutter by .1mm increments. So I cut the shelf, adjust the cutter by .3 or .4mm and cut the edging. Now I have a joint with a little offset and I can come back and clean that up with a router or lipping planer. I will say this, if I could only have one, it would be the small domino. Plain and simple, it is more versatile. It has its draw backs, specifically the fence can slip if you are not careful, but over all its a really useful, money making tool. Also, if you are making a living doing this stuff and want a biscuit joiner, only consider buying the Lamello (the top 21 model). I have owned a few others and while they all work OK, they have too much slop in them to be accurate.
Shop sawn veneer is not for every project, but its awesome when used in the right situation. Commercial veneer can be a real pain to use, and there is very little margin for error. Though I use it upon occasion. Sounds like you are getting a good education, what school?
Well, I've just looked at prices and the Domino is in fact cheaper than the Top21. A lesson in not believing what other people tell you.
I remember you used it to trim the edging and it made me consider the fact that I couldn't imagine using the Domino in any other way that just joinery.
I'm at the Chippendale School in Scotland - no association with the male strippers or chipmunk Rescue Rangers. The syllabus is pretty open, we only have to adhere to at least one solid wood and one veneer project for the year, anything more than that is up to us. We've had guest lecturers stay with us for a week or two teaching gilding, carving, veneering, windsor chair making, perspective drawing and design - there's probably something I'm missing in there, but it's been an intense year. Just over a month to go and then I can call myself a furniture maker, so I'm told...
Thank you for the response, Mike.
That really sounds awesome! Keep at it. Yes, the Top21 is not cheap. That is one of the reasons I think the small Domino is the best all around. Its a lot of usefulness for the money. Best of luck. Keep me updated on what you are up to.
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With such small doors, did the customer save that much more money by going with veneer rather than going with solid wood doors?
It wasn't about money. I didn't think solid wood doors would stay flat enough to slide smoothly in the tracks.
Ahhh, makes sense now. Thanks for the reply!
Looking for inner tube edge clamp video but cannot find it on your channel...?
Built in cabinet; TV console and floating shelves
Merci, @@MikeFarrington
I think I’ll quit my construction job and make furniture now.
I had that thought many years ago.
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Thank you.
Anyone get the Better off dead movie reference???
Better off Dead is a great movie, one of my favorites.