I use this to primarily grow cactus on my shaded, west-facing windowsill in my kitchen (Lophophora, Echinopsis, Stapelia, Aloe). I use the light spill to grow less light-demanding plants like Nepenthes and tropical orchids. Does the job admirably - there are so few valid options with this form factor out there:/
Fruiting plants require a lot more energy to produce an abundance of fruit. You may be able to raise a fruiting plant and get it to fruit, however it will not fruit abundantly. Here is a good article: www.ledtonic.com/blogs/guides/dli-daily-light-integral-chart-understand-your-plants-ppfd-photoperiod-requirements
I don't think those are drivers placed sporadically on the PCB. Note that they only have two pins. Those are likely current-limiting resistors. This looks like a plain DC supply with current-limiting resistance kind of design to me. They will create some heat, as you mentioned. And could also corroborate the idea that they are being run super low in terms of their maximum rating. There's inevitably DC voltage variance between units in terms of that laptop style brick it's being powered by, so it may have also been necessary to run the LEDs lower than usual with a larger factor of safety margin in mind for supply fluctuations. Looks like a great offering from them though. It's nice to see longer lights with good coverage like this.
I have this light and I am very happy with it as well. Spot on info Sir!! I use it to grow lettuce with and it is amazing. Thanks for your input and info.
Why would this spider farmer sf 600 NOT be good for a couple of pepper and tomato plants? I was told that it was and that it could definitely handle flowering and fruiting growth stages- by them. I can’t find anyone testing the sf 600 or sf 300 models for any vegetables that have these stages to see how the lights perform. Any recommendations? Thank you!
YES! I have a terrarium with spatula and purpurea and am planning to start planting in my heliamphora soon too :) thanks a lot this convinced me to get it
the light looks good for info you gave. also the form they sent you is the standard ISR simple normal print out like most use.... 10718 lumens 145.25 lm/w 33.2 radiant energy , 168.18 ppf , par per watt ( sphere 2.27 umol/j ) pretty normal variation sphere versus a flat surface as you measure for umol/j , plus the light ratio of light spectrum and rendering index, and a power draw of 73.79 watts as tested at the sphere... the light spectrum looks pretty good it could do seedlings easy and even greens. if you used it in an enclosed reflective grow area where the stray light normally lost is reflected back in you would see a huge jump in ppf readings love to see how much you increase if you close three sides with a simple foil barrier
i have 2 sf300 in my grow tent, same lights as the sf600 but half the length. works great for seedlings and clones up to veg stage. plants like them more than my sunblaster leds.
Hello, i have a question if you don't mind. Do you think 2 of the sf-600 would be ok to veg 4-6 with? I have a sf4000 for budding and found sf1000 on sale now for $76(usually $130), so thought maybe 2 of them would be good enough to veg a 4x4 area with for my first round anyway then upgrade with another sf4000 or se5000 etc. Thanks! Just seems like i need the more power for my budding so hoping i could get away with a cpl of one of these. Hoping u actually see this been a few weeks since your reply haha.
So I'm looking at making my own grow lights. My understanding is that sphere test literally requires a reflective sphere. How would you stick that bad boy into a sphere?
@@Hoocho lol, I guess so. I really don't want to build a big sphere for my testing. I think I found a way to measure lumens using a lux meter. Which looks similar to what you're doing.
@@dodaexploda mines a par meter, apogee mq500, specifically designed to measure PPFD Those spheres are only really used by large scale manufacturers and also have spectrometers and an array of other sensors. A PAR meter would suit your purpose I think.
@@Hoocho thanks! PAR and PPFD are new words for me. I'm going to look them up to add to my research. I'm planning on using the webcam hack to validate the light spectrum.
How would this compare to having 3 or 4 t5 led grow lights like Active Grow? Would you prefer this or a dimmed Mars Hydro SP 3000, or TSL 2000 for herbs, lettuce and other greens?
I'm thinking about buying this for my small houseplants for the winter months here with only 7 hours of low overcast daylight, in an east facing window. Will it even provide any benefit for such a cause or should I look for more premium lights?
Hey Hoocho, Been trying to decide whether I purchase this one of the SF300 for my custom grow tent (1100 [L] x 400 [W] x 500 [H]) where I'm looking to just grow leafy greens and herbs. Given the reduced height of the tent, I'm worried the SF600 may be overkill for such plants, or perhaps the SF300 wouldn't be enough to produce good yield? Any thoughts/suggestions ?
The only difference in the light is length of footprint. There is no extra intensity gained. So if you want the larger footprint that would be the reason to go the 600.
I was looking for power supplies but this looks interesting so I’ll watch Ok I thought it was an actual spider farm as in live spider farm. Fortunately it isn’t.
I use this to primarily grow cactus on my shaded, west-facing windowsill in my kitchen (Lophophora, Echinopsis, Stapelia, Aloe). I use the light spill to grow less light-demanding plants like Nepenthes and tropical orchids. Does the job admirably - there are so few valid options with this form factor out there:/
What height did you have the light in the test?
Thanks I was looking I that light and this helps.
hey hoocho please let us know the distance you tested at.
Can you elaborate a bit on why this wouldnt be good for fruiting plants? What figures should we be looking for then?
Fruiting plants require a lot more energy to produce an abundance of fruit. You may be able to raise a fruiting plant and get it to fruit, however it will not fruit abundantly.
Here is a good article:
www.ledtonic.com/blogs/guides/dli-daily-light-integral-chart-understand-your-plants-ppfd-photoperiod-requirements
Its advertised as a veg light on their web sight
Hey there, at what height was this test ran at? 24" or 12" thanks in advance
I was wondering why i couldnt find out what height he measured at… one of the most important values hes missed out mentioning…
can you do a small cultivation, vegetation and flowering, in a small space??
So for someone wanting a good light for their indoor tropical plants would this be a good light to choose?
I don't think those are drivers placed sporadically on the PCB. Note that they only have two pins.
Those are likely current-limiting resistors. This looks like a plain DC supply with current-limiting resistance kind of design to me.
They will create some heat, as you mentioned. And could also corroborate the idea that they are being run super low in terms of their maximum rating. There's inevitably DC voltage variance between units in terms of that laptop style brick it's being powered by, so it may have also been necessary to run the LEDs lower than usual with a larger factor of safety margin in mind for supply fluctuations.
Looks like a great offering from them though. It's nice to see longer lights with good coverage like this.
They're 36Ω resistors bruz
Great video
However the height of the light in relation to its readings was not covered ? I’m assuming the reading were taken at 12 inches ?
I have this light and I am very happy with it as well. Spot on info Sir!! I use it to grow lettuce with and it is amazing. Thanks for your input and info.
Great review! Looks like a great option for my starter 4'x2' lettuce indoor NFT system.
Good for the "Start of some veg" - would that be good for a few kratky lettuce trays?
When I rewatched I regretted that sentence. Yeah it would be perfect for full veg of lettuce and leafy greens
Why would this spider farmer sf 600 NOT be good for a couple of pepper and tomato plants? I was told that it was and that it could definitely handle flowering and fruiting growth stages- by them. I can’t find anyone testing the sf 600 or sf 300 models for any vegetables that have these stages to see how the lights perform. Any recommendations? Thank you!
I use one for a carnivorous plant setup ( HL nepenthes and heliamphora) and it work flawlessly !
YES! I have a terrarium with spatula and purpurea and am planning to start planting in my heliamphora soon too :) thanks a lot this convinced me to get it
So his par readings seem alot lower then other video. Did he test in reflective tent or without? Only reason I can think of.
Would you recommend this for chillies,specifically,Carolina Reaper,Bhut Jolokia,Trinidad Scorpion Cardi?
Any information would be greatly appreciated.
I would not
the light looks good for info you gave. also the form they sent you is the standard ISR simple normal print out like most use.... 10718 lumens 145.25 lm/w 33.2 radiant energy , 168.18 ppf , par per watt ( sphere 2.27 umol/j ) pretty normal variation sphere versus a flat surface as you measure for umol/j , plus the light ratio of light spectrum and rendering index, and a power draw of 73.79 watts as tested at the sphere... the light spectrum looks pretty good it could do seedlings easy and even greens. if you used it in an enclosed reflective grow area where the stray light normally lost is reflected back in you would see a huge jump in ppf readings love to see how much you increase if you close three sides with a simple foil barrier
Does it come with the stuff to daisy chain two of these together
Just purchased this light but unsure how high to hang it above the seedlings?
Start about 30cm/12inch maybe a little higher.
I see you are putting the 3D printer to good use so far. Is that a bell siphon design I see on the table? Looking forward to see your creations
@Hoocho
no longer delivering to Aus??
i have 2 sf300 in my grow tent, same lights as the sf600 but half the length. works great for seedlings and clones up to veg stage. plants like them more than my sunblaster leds.
Hello, i have a question if you don't mind. Do you think 2 of the sf-600 would be ok to veg 4-6 with? I have a sf4000 for budding and found sf1000 on sale now for $76(usually $130), so thought maybe 2 of them would be good enough to veg a 4x4 area with for my first round anyway then upgrade with another sf4000 or se5000 etc. Thanks! Just seems like i need the more power for my budding so hoping i could get away with a cpl of one of these. Hoping u actually see this been a few weeks since your reply haha.
It's so weird that you started using freedom units. Just stick to real numbers.
Apart from that: great as always!
This is their best designed light so far!
What light in the 4ft width at this price range or possibly just a hair more would you recommend for flowering Strawperry, peppers, or tomatoes?
Hi, can you unscrew/remove the LED board?
So I'm looking at making my own grow lights. My understanding is that sphere test literally requires a reflective sphere. How would you stick that bad boy into a sphere?
Big sphere?
@@Hoocho lol, I guess so. I really don't want to build a big sphere for my testing. I think I found a way to measure lumens using a lux meter. Which looks similar to what you're doing.
@@dodaexploda mines a par meter, apogee mq500, specifically designed to measure PPFD
Those spheres are only really used by large scale manufacturers and also have spectrometers and an array of other sensors.
A PAR meter would suit your purpose I think.
@@Hoocho thanks! PAR and PPFD are new words for me. I'm going to look them up to add to my research. I'm planning on using the webcam hack to validate the light spectrum.
How would this compare to having 3 or 4 t5 led grow lights like Active Grow?
Would you prefer this or a dimmed Mars Hydro SP 3000, or TSL 2000 for herbs, lettuce and other greens?
Is this good for succulents?
I'm thinking about buying this for my small houseplants for the winter months here with only 7 hours of low overcast daylight, in an east facing window. Will it even provide any benefit for such a cause or should I look for more premium lights?
Thanks Hoocho
Can u provide a link to the truncheon meter knockoff that you use?
Probably great for micro greens
At what height was this ?
This would be a good seedling light
Hey Hoocho,
Been trying to decide whether I purchase this one of the SF300 for my custom grow tent (1100 [L] x 400 [W] x 500 [H]) where I'm looking to just grow leafy greens and herbs. Given the reduced height of the tent, I'm worried the SF600 may be overkill for such plants, or perhaps the SF300 wouldn't be enough to produce good yield? Any thoughts/suggestions ?
The only difference in the light is length of footprint. There is no extra intensity gained.
So if you want the larger footprint that would be the reason to go the 600.
@@Hoocho nice one mate thanks, in your opinion, is this suitable for a range of leafy greens and herbs? Or is there something better suited ?
@@simongodfrey6475 this is perfect for that.
Thank you for the video. I'm just getting into seed starting, what budget light would you recommend for a first set up?
IMO This light is really good value as it gives you a large area for seed starting/cloning.
I don't understand the micro-mol per joule calculation. Mol's are the number of atoms and LED lights don't emit atoms.
what are some other good grow medimus other than perlite
I was looking for power supplies but this looks interesting so I’ll watch
Ok I thought it was an actual spider farm as in live spider farm. Fortunately it isn’t.
Good for clones and seedings.
Could really use a new light