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The point was to just knock the glaze off not move any sort of material if you would have done it differently great but I’ll just keep doing me
You need to relax a little
If you keep doing you and not listening to people with experience you’ll continue to do things wrong, all those spots the hone didn’t touch are areas the rings will not seat to the cylinder, as well as areas that are out of round and can cause binding of the new piston and ring assembly, your arrogance of “I’ll do me” is the same arrogance that has made many people learn the hard way.. you’re right it’s your way... don’t make a video and try to show people your “skill” just tell everyone not to follow your advice it’s for entertainment not information, because what you’re showing is a temporary if not a bad fix at best, get a book, do some research and stop being so arrogant, do it right or don’t do it at all, you’re promising someone a decent built motor that’s not going to last
F that guy John. There’s only one way to hone your craft and that’s by doing and learning along the way. I’ve been watching your channel since the beginning and I’m jealous of your abilities. Keep doing you like you said and your channel will blow up.
It wasn't smoking with a piece of #3 missing it will be fine people don't get the difference between freshening up an engine and a rebuild
@@andreweisan9613 Why in the world would you refresh a 65 year old engine, the oil galley are full of sludge, the water jackets are full of rust. the engine is already tore apart send everything to the machine shop have it cleaned and checked, new cam bearings, freeze plugs, oil galley plugs, block, crank and heads magnafluxed. the engine had a pretty good knock and that would not be the bad piston so throw bearings in it and cross your fingers.
You either do a backyard engine build or you do it the right way. Call it what it is. Backyard engine build is knock the pistons out with a hammer handle and let them hit the floor, spray out the passages with brake cleaner, paint it first to satisfy instant gratification, sit the bearing caps on the floor, etc. If you are doing a proper engine overhaul your work area is surgically clean and you are taking great pains to keep things organized. You disassemble and rebuild the engine according to the service manual you say you have. Early Buicks, early Oldsmobiles and early Cadillacs are some of the most expensive domestic V8 engines to properly overhaul and I suspect this is an attempt to circumvent that. Good luck though.
This video just makes me cringe. He would have better off to put 1 piston and bearing assy. In the old nailhead and been done with it. I sadly agree, this engine won't last 15000 miles. No bore check for taper, out of round , tight or loose bearing clearance, and to add insult to injury, honed the damn block with the crank in it. I wouldn't let this hack fix my bicycle
Just wondering why the block is all painted up nice before the machine work is done on it ?
what machine work? seems like he`s honed the cyl. and just going throw bearings and rings in it......yeah not my idea.
since you honed the cylinders with the crank in make doubly sure you wash it out thoroughly and blow out the oil passages, What I was taught was when you think you have it clean enough do it again. Try you rings at several spots in the cylinder, Love the content that Buick is one of my all time favorite cars
I hope you didn't leave any marks on that crank removing those pistons like you did. no rubber protections around the rod bolt threads. prying on the caps to get them loose with a screwdriver, shoving an unlubricated piston down in the cylinder. do you have a micrometer so you can measure the throws and the cylinder wear? got any plastigauge? sorry if I sound like I'm giving a lecture but it's so easy to mess up building one. just one speck of dirt or a score on the throw or even a hair in the bearing can mess things up.
Tools needed for removing pistons and rods from an engine. Two hammers ,screwdriver, metal rod or pipe, impact. Beat till piston comes out and hits the ground.
@@farmtruck9885 sure that will get them out but it's like doing surgery with a chain saw
oh it will open things up just fine but try putting it back together and not having problems down the road just a little ways.
Question ? why didn't you use a heavy flow of diesel fuel & ATF mix in the bores while honing ? How much tapper in the bores did your bore gauge show you needed to hone out ? Were you able to get most of the tapper out with the hone ? Got to remember you must have straight bores as that is the most important thing to fit new rings to.
John you explain things in plain English which makes everything easy to follow. Ty
it is the only language I know lol I don't know a lot of the technical terms
@@RightOnJohn383 We old farts that do it all the time understand :)
Excellent Video John :) and keeping up excellent work plus videos rolling to and be watching for you to !
Hey John, good work with the honing tool. I would have measured with a dial bore gage to check size, roundness, taper etc. maybe you did off camera, just wanting to see how much material was removed during the procedure. I think I might have used oil during the hone. You did great. Can’t wait to see the rebuild. Big Al.
The first part I used 30 weight the goal wasn’t to take material off just to knock the glaze off
@@RightOnJohn383 yes sir, I understand.
How come you didn't take the crankshaft out are you going to change the main bearings did you Mike the crankshaft before you ordered your bearings if it was me I would have pulled the crankshaft out before honing the cylinders
20:18 sounds like 'trampled by turtles' Thanks for sharing.
wish i had a building that big.
So is there going to be another video soon. This car is an interesting build.
yes I just had surgery so been down for a week
You should have taking the crankshaft out and the cam out before you did anything guess you haven’t done that before Usually you take it all a part and check everything for worn parts
Plus micropolish all the journals of the rods & mains on the crank so it doesn't chew up the new bearings on the first start up. Davin on Vice grip gauge showed a free way to do it quick & easy , came out really nice to with nothing more then a long shoe string and some 800 emery cloth ! I haven't try it that way yet, but I sure enough will from here on out ! Costs zip and the surfaces are perfect for new bearing to take a seat .
Great information
if the pistons are stuck at tdc its prob the cyl. ridge get one of those old-timey ridge reamers I found one for 5 bucks at a junk shop
they were not stuck took me awhile to figure out they were hanging on the crank
Cool deal good luck on that motor, dont listen to the haters!! Im lookin forward to seeing it run! Love the channel btw!
I would of used a center punch to mark each rod cap that way you could put the rod back in it’s original bore with the new pistons !!!
I did
Looking good John sam tx
thanks sam
Nice coat! Buy that on eBay did you?
What about the main bearings you are going to put new in I hope?
yes just have not got them in yet...
@@RightOnJohn383 micropolish that crank before you put it back in ! Watch Derek on vice grip gauge rebuild his 307 costs nothing to do it but a long shoe string and a piece of 800 emery cloth and the crank comes out like factory new ! ( I was shocked how nice it worked !!! )
@@hydroy1 Think that might be Derek on Vice Grip Garage
@@andreweisan9613 Correct , Case of fingers faster them mind ! lol :) but that was a really great way to polish a crank at home for free in my opinion !
This video was painful to watch sorry. Clearly you haven’t rebuilt many engines so many things done wrong . But A for effort. Keep turning and learning.....
He will do better on the next time he pulls it out ! we call it REWORK ! Been there !
Man, this guy is a shoemaker. Before you knock them pistons out, you have to use a ridge reamer on the top of the cylinder. He is turning this engine into a piece of crap. Stop what you are doing and get a qualified engine builder before that engine will be scrap metal.
Not much measuring going is it 5000 mile rebuild
When you start this engine it will sound like a jack-ass in a tin barn.
OOOOOUCH ! lol . but you might be right. If he doesn't use a bore gauge to find out where the clearances are at , I see very little chance of a runner for very long , it's not the first 2,000 miles that matter it's the next 30,000 !
Won't last 30,000 miles, more like 300.
@@jamesmann1243 Took about 9,000 miles to beat the valve job out of my 389 Pontiac when I didn't install hardened seat in it. I got almost 1,500 miles out of my Olds 330 seats before it started fouling plugs in #5 for the same reason, no hardened seats. It's a pretty quick death on valve jobs if you fail to install hardened seats in the heads. The good new is he doesn't have to pull the motor to get them installed next time, but oh god is that intake & heads HEAVY bending over them fenders !!!!! Been there !. Also John didn't tell us what end gap he allowed for the rings ? To tight, it brakes a ring, to loose, it smokes and with no bore gauge to see how straight the cylinders REALLY are after honing there's a good chance it might brake a ring when it hits operating temperature with out knowing how straight the bore really are. Would I be worried ? Oh yes, very
Why does everyone use these terrible hones, use a ball hone, also use something to flush the hone debris out of the cylinders, those scratches all the trash makes really isn’t helping new rings seat properly all those spots the hone didn’t touch? That’s out of round, it needs a bore or a professional hone, if you’re doing this as a job for a customer you need to tell them what’s going on, not just say it’ll be ok
if he had a micrometer and properly checked the cylinders he would have found out how bad of shape those cylinders are. you have to measure all your cylinders , every throw on the crank then you know if you need to bore the cylinders and use oversized parts , same for the crank. It could need to be turned or replaced. ( I've worked in a machine shop and grew up building motors)
An ounce of prevention is worth tons of cure.
@@Hobodeluxe960 I absolutely agree, I as well
Worked at a machine shop and we used to not let things go out the door that were .002 defect, an once of prevention as you said is exactly right
@@ni_wink84 remember those old Fram oil filter commercials? "You can pay me now, or pay me later".
P.S. this is not a recommendation for Fram oil filters. They're junk.
I apologize for the following comment in advance. When you describe how the engine or car or anything else looks, "it looks good" not well. Well should be used to describe how something is done. The car runs well. Sorry not trying to be a jerk.
im a well driller by trait everything is Well lol I agree
@@RightOnJohn383 don't listen to the teacher Lol 😆😆😆 your fine John, Everyone trying to correct others.
Keep doing you 👍 Ain't got no time for armchair mechanics or negative comments. Thank you for your content as always.
What are they glued in or what? 😂😂😂
sorta just a little tricky
I have a olds engine you can have for free 😆
I hope I don't need it lol
@@RightOnJohn383 Its here for now lol needs rebuild
what year and cubic size . I might be interested
@@christophermckinnon4920 If you need a olds short block , I got a few for sale , 73/ 350R and a 70. / 455R both runners
Those are good motors
make sure you ALL rings are the same.
yes sir!!!
@@RightOnJohn383 The new rings should be factory marked top & second ring and tell you witch side goes up . Remember to clock the locations of all the rings on each piston as none of them should line up .