Abortion Ruling: Last Week Tonight with John Oliver (HBO)
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- John Oliver discusses the leaked draft opinion that looks set to overturn Roe v. Wade, how we got to this point, and where we may be headed.
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Things that will reduce abortion:
-Access to contraception
-Comprehensive sex ed courses
-Universal healthcare
-Universal childcare
-A living wage
-Guaranteed family leave
Things that will not reduce abortion:
-Abortion bans
Contraception is already dirt-cheap and often free. Even surgical procedures like IUDs are often free under most insurance plans. Sex-Ed is so prevalent that we have teachers teaching kindergarteners and 1st graders the different kinds of sexual identities. As for economic improvements like cheaper healthcare, free childcare, higher wages - everything is better when people become richer - that's not an abortion-specific issue.
What will reduce abortion: cultural shift in personal sexual responsibility. A majority of people outside of marriage only report using condoms "sometimes". Meanwhile apps like Tinder have increased casual sex outside of relationships, especially among women, ten-fold. It doesn't take a scientist to realize the end result is unwanted pregnancies that people want to deal with by killing a baby.
@@joshitheyoshi2533 when i tried to get a prescription for birth control, it took me 8 months to book one. Sex ed is rarely taught before middle school, despite the fact my best friend got her period in fourth grade. Most people who seek abortions already have children and simply cannot afford another, so yes, the cost-related issues are a major factor here.
Sex outside of relationships has existed for most of human history. The difference then was that children were raised communally by the entire village; the rise of the nuclear family destroyed that support system. Now all the responsibility falls to two or even just one parent. Sometimes, that burden is impossible to bear, and rather than choose a life of poverty for themselves and their child or children, they choose to end the developement of a cluster of cells via a safe medical procedure. The only thing banning abortions will is make that procedure extremely dangerous.
How about both? with the edition of abortion (almost) bans?
@@dmais95 im not sure what your question here is. Can you phrase it differently?
@@joshitheyoshi2533 and which side is mentioning going after contraceptives?
The same people that screamed "my body, my choice" over wearing a piece of fabric during a pandemic are now SILENT. Their hypocrisy knows no bounds.
The same people who are pro life are also very very fond of the death penalty
isn't it also the other way around?
@@Dubadubadu123 Abortions are not contagious. Being around a person who had one won't give you an abortion. COVID is.
Ignorance is deadly.
I so agree.
My mother said “Guns have more rights than women right now.” When hearing about this.
Mother, I couldn’t agree more.
You and your mother are misinformed. Guns don't have a right to kill innocent human beings (born or unborn). Men and women shouldn't either.
yes we all have the right to buy guns and shoot each other!!! It's the purge!!! Owning a gun for self protection is entirely different from purposely killing and removing a baby from the uterus.
@@mathildeyoung1823 By your logic I should have the right to harvest your organs to save the life of someone else. What do you mean you don't want to have your organs used by someone else to save a life? Isn't that exactly your point? That someone dependent on another persons organs always has the right to use them regardless of the consent of the person in question? What do you mean you might die from it? It's murder for you to not give your organs to another person so if you refuse we'll charge you with murder and just harvest your organs after your execution anyways. And if it's necessary we will keep harvesting your organs until you die, sorry but it's murder if you refuse. You must surely understand, it is murder to not give up your bodily autonomy for the survival of someone else.
@@mathildeyoung1823 true. Guns also don't have rights since they're inanimate objects. We have the constitutional right to own and carry guns. But there's no constitutional right to abortion. Since the constitution doesn't mention it it becomes a state issue.
Women just need to own more guns. ;-)
Calling a fetus an unborn person is the logical equivalent of calling a person an unkilled corpse.
Nah, the way I see it, a fetus is a like a coma patient, they make wake up one day and abortion is you pulling them out of health support.
More than 70% of living people actually end up as corpses so even this doesn’t quite demonstrate the stupidity
That was enlightening
@@tripsupstairs besides not having a choice in who or how many people see you naked, or if a doctor or an actual butcher is cutting you open and poking around your organs. Heck, most jurisdictions don't even check to make sure the coroner isn't a necrophile
Unborn person is the equivalent of not yet alive person…..it shouldn’t be “first heartbeat” it should be first breath of fresh air…..people don’t breathe in a placenta goo environment and people don’t receive nourishment from an organic tube thru your belly button…..those two facts should objectively override the “heartbeat” argument 🙄🙄
Always remember : you can't ban abortions, you can only ban safe, legal abortions.
You can ban. But not prevent.
There are some real horrible deaths from woman who tried whatever came into their mind. Like riding the broomstick. And by that I mean on the pointy end and all the way down.
@@steemlenn8797 that is horrifying
As a nurse in pre-legal-abortion times (yes, I'm old as dirt) I saw the results of backyard abortions. A 14 year old impregnated by her old uncle; a young woman with 17 puncture wounds in her cervix from a knitting needle - she died of sepsis; a young woman who simultaneously had a pregnancy and a rapidly growing cancer - "they" wanted to play Russian Roulette with her, hoping they could do a C-Section for a viable infant before she died. The backyard abortion allowed her to get treatment and survive. These, and others, allowed me to form the opinion that if I wrote legislation, I would have walk-in clinics in the back room of every Starbucks.
Just like guns. Thank you.
You can’t completely ban alcohol either. But in states that do there is a lot less alcohol. Whatever gets less babies killed.
As an American who lives in Europe, John Oliver has become a depressing part of my Monday morning routine where I'm reminded weekly why I'm never going home.
Don't worry, you can stay as long as you like
You do know most of Europe has a limit equal to the Mississippi law?
Stay and never come back babykiller
Awww I'm sure everyone cares
good choice
lol no one cares, keep supporting unconstiutional laws because you don't know any better because of herd mentality
I'd also say that the most important point he made in this is "some women get an abortion BECAUSE THEY FUCKING WANT ONE"
Some people shoot up schools just because they want to.
Is that all you need to make it right? Is just the want to do it?
He didn't say "women" he said "some". This entire segment the writers and John are doing their best to avoid using the word "woman" as much as possible. Don't believe me? Watch again and listen (they use the word once in the beginning)
@@nemir6872 It's because they are afraid of speaking the truth. And this is who people follow. It's just so crazy
@@youtubesucks1821 Donnie is looking sooo good eh?!
@@Juan-hv9bi Their entire argument hinges on things that are not common. "What about rape or maternal health issues?" Which are 4.5% of abortions according to Guttmacher institute.
That and the other part of their 2 pronged argument dehumanizing babies by saying they aren't people. That is the only way they can justify it
One of the best arguments I’ve heard for being pro choice is that organ donation isn’t even required if you die. Your organs could save people but the law says that even if you are DEAD you have a right to bodily autonomy. If you don’t want to donate your organs, you don’t have to. How can you have such a law but also have a law that requires women to donate their living body to a person that doesn’t even exist yet? How does that make sense?
@@wtn1670 spoken like a dude who will never have to worry about it
@@wtn1670 also there is ~ SEVEN months of difference between those time frames. They are not separate entities. Realize that the fetus cannot exist without the mother. People can have safe sex and still get pregnant. Either way, it's that person's body, that person's choice.
You sound a bit religious. Let me give you a quote from a well read Pastor:
"The unborn are a convenient group of people to advocate for. They never make demands of you; they are morally uncomplicated, unlike the incarcerated, addicted, or the chronically poor; they don’t resent your condescension or complain that you are not politically correct; unlike widows, they don’t ask you to question patriarchy; unlike orphans, they don’t need money, education, or childcare; unlike aliens, they don’t bring all that racial, cultural, and religious baggage that you dislike; they allow you to feel good about yourself without any work at creating or maintaining relationships; and when they are born, you can forget about them, because they cease to be unborn. You can love the unborn and advocate for them without substantially challenging your own wealth, power, or privilege, without re-imagining social structures, apologizing, or making reparations to anyone. They are, in short, the perfect people to love if you want to claim you love Jesus, but actually dislike people who breathe. Prisoners? Immigrants? The sick? The poor? Widows? Orphans? All the groups that are specifically mentioned in the Bible? They all get thrown under the bus for the unborn."
Methodist Pastor David Barnhart
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That's a terrible argument.
Brilliant argument! Unfortunately it only speaks to the already informed and better educated minds in our society... It's the uneducated, the narrowminded mental midgets and the control freaks who can't or won't grasp logic, reason or statistics. They are also the ones who need to have their heads ejected from everyone else's asses, since they weren't asked to be there in the first place, anyhow.
I'd be curious to know the results of poll centered on pro choicers and anti choicers alike, asking them their views on population control tactics, as it may pertain to our future generations in around about a hundred years time, when healthy food, potable water and safe housing become unobtainable to the general majority.
Had I known at 20, what I know almost 30 years later, I never would have followed through with having children, as it already appears that I will be leaving them with a planet who's own future looks pretty bloody bleak... They are members of a population that is becoming increasingly homeless, hungry and hopeless and they are burdened with the knowledge that humanity's existence at any time, faces possible extinction through natural cataclysmic activity.
What a wonderful time to be alive...
I am from Spain, which is a deeply catholic country. So much so, that the great majority of our sayings and our national holidays have to do with religion - almost 70% of children are baptized. Still, most people do understand that faith is a personal issue and not one of law. Sex Ed is mandatory in every school (public or private), contraceptives are easily and affordably available, and women can get safe abortions at public hospitals and clinics. In order to promote people having more children what our country tries to do is make it less of a burden for couples to have children - maternity/paternity leave, tax breaks for families with children and single parents, heavy discounts for "numerous families", free healthcare and education.
Spain is just your average "zombie Catholic" secularized western European country where Catholicism has lost all cultural influence and people go through the motions out of tradition. Sunday worship attendance rates are abysmal.
Plus your family aid program is the weakest in the whole of Western Europe.
Yeah, that's because Spain is a civilized country, unlike a certain US of A.
Lol I wish that was part of the "Marca España" meme, but I guess that self hating "facho-cuñaos" will continue to exaggerate our problems to play the eternal victim card and ignore the good things we have.
No pasarán.
Humble brag much? Lol
Honestly, that's how it should be.. but in the southern US states. Even proper sex Education isn't allowed, getting the pill is like jumping thru fire, and mostly very young children end up pregnant
(that's why MTV that that teen mom show for soo long) it's too common..
to the point that I often see young mothers becoming real murders.. of their own children 😥 they blame it on stress and no support.. but men here will threaten the mother who tries to collect child support and yet complain why their girlfriends don't have enough sex with them.. 😮💨 it's way better to be a lesbian in the US than a straight girl
When my mom was pregnant with me the doctors strongly recommended an abortion because they didn't think she'd be able to carry me full-term and survive. Being staunchly pro-life she refused and somehow made it through. Nice story, huh? Except the part where she lost her job due to medical complications and was never able to find another. Except the part where my entire family fell into poverty and never made it out. Except the part where a combination of physical issues, mental illness, and the sheer stress of the situation turned a previously good mother (according to my older sister) into an abusive monster. I honestly wish she'd aborted me. It might have saved my sister a lot of trauma and it's not like my non-existent self would have known the difference. Abortion is healthcare.
I’m sorry you and your family went through all of that. It’s truly f*cked up how conservatives want to make abortion illegals yet refuse to lift a single fingers in aiding people most affected by these rulings and will scream how it isn’t “their responsibility”
Healthcare is also healthcare. The difference between republicans and democrats is *when* they think the torture and murder of children is acceptable.
A little life insurance and a 'accident' on your part should make up for it.
Thank you for sharing your story with us, and I'm extremely sorry you had to experience all of that.
However, please remember that you're worth it. I truly hope you have support, care and love at this stage of your life. 💪🏻💪🏻💓💓
@@kemzyacco5629 You are essentially a simpleton spouting nonsense.
Fun fact: when Roe was decided, marital rape was still legal in all 50 states. The first state to throw away it's marriage exemption to anti-rape laws did so in 1976; the last state outlawed marital rape in *1993*.
wtf that's not even that long ago
Holy shit. That’s too recent for comfort.
Disturbing.., theres not intitlement ..to ones body..🙄🤦♀️
The good old biblical days...
Also, even if it would save 10 lives, it's still illegal to use the organs of a corps unless the deceased was a donor. Dead bodies have more autonomy than pregnant women. What does that say about our society and how women are regarded?
"Freedoms are never guaranteed. They are hard won and easily lost"
That is why the best way is often the toughest. Get the most ironclad protection possible. Add an amendment and change the Constitution.
Science is conclusive to say that an individual, unique human life begins at fertilization. Therefore, abortion is murder.
@@conniethesconnie Yerp. So true
Thankfully with the killing of Roe we've protected the freedom of unborn babies across this country 💜
But we ain't done yet we must get the national ban👍
Trying to make abortion as close to impossible as they can while providing no paternity leave and no affordable health care is so insidious I can't even wrap my head around it
Don't forget, the people who are the loudest in support of banning abortion are also the loudest for reducing welfare and how it should be up to the mother to care for their children on their own.
Just imagine being responsible for one self and not depending on government for ones troubles. Oh and saving lives while doing it.
@@rogerdildeau7507 the 60s were terrible and the baby boom was ongoing
Cost of living is much more unaffordable than it was in 1972. Plus there was much more income equity then than now.
They want my body reduced to property, they want me barefoot pregnant obedient and in the kitchen.
I want these fascists dead.
I’ll never forgot the time my mom told me the story of her going to an abortion clinic in the early 90s after I was born. There were people outside protesting. She had to be escorted in by security. A woman in the crowd yelled out that she shouldn’t do it. My mother then replied that she just lost her baby and had to get it removed. The woman was speechless. It’s clear that these politicians don’t understand the basics of how a woman’s body works and what we go through. We should be allowed to make our choice on what to do when presented with something that can completely alter your life.
Ehhh I don't consider that an abortion even though it's classified as one. Besides, that procedure isn't banned only regular ones
I was 18, going to get an IUD because I couldn’t stop bleeding. This went on for years. I went with my mom, who was standing RIGHT NEXT TO ME as a protestor screamed at me not to “kill my baby.” I wasn’t pregnant. She had the audacity to scream at a child for something that wasn’t happening in front of their parent. They’re insane. I’m sorry that happened to your mother.
You're REALLY going to act like the new abortion ban means women can't get treatment for miscarriages? "These people" are in the hundreds of millions in America, but nice way to try and make the opposing viewpoints sound like a handful of crazy protesters.
By and large the loudest opponents to abortion (as with almost all conservative causes) are themselves victims of smarter people shepherding them with spoonfed strawmen. They don't actually know the details of anything they're against - simply assured by those in power that whatever it is will be in their best interests. Blind faith as a political force. Not saying they should get a pass for near-unfathomable ignorance.
And should the father also have a say? Also yeah sorry, if you have sex.....you can get pregnant.
Still can't believe that a man who cried over beer just took away my bodily autonomy
No, they said states could decide whether a woman could kill her unborn child or not...
Even worse, it was taken by a rapist who cried about beer, and only got in after the Republican Senate refused to let Obama appoint a supreme court justice to replace RBG because, as they said, his term was almost over.
It's weird how they let Trump appoint a justice when his term was almost over, though.
@@iloveplasticbottles A rapist lol... you're funny...
I can believe it. After all, he's been credibly accused of taking away a woman's bodily autonomy before.
@@renatocorvaro6924 "credibly" lol....
Let them move somewhere else is the Let Them Eat Cake approach to women’s rights
“Sell their houses to who? Fucking Aquaman?!”
Or basically any political issue.
My ex-wife had to get an abortion. We wanted to keep the child, but she kept getting sicker and sicker. Then she started bleeding from her uterus. We went to one doctor who told us there was a 50/50 chance only we could keep the baby. After 3 months my wife was so sick she couldn't get out of bed. We went to a different doctor who then told us if we continued there was a chance that she could die also. He also stated that at this time surgery had to be done because the internal bleeding was getting serious. We took a week to think about it and in that week my wife would barely wake up and was sleeping 20 hours a day. She could barely eat and was losing weight fast. I got really scared when she went into a coma-like state where I couldn't wake her. Finally after a couple of days she came around only to declare that she couldn't continue like this. She felt like she was dying because she was. Reluctantly we had the abortion and doctor ordered it medically necessary. He said there was a chance that if she continued with the pregnancy that there was a high chance that would go into a coma and never wake up. Even after the surgery she didn't come to until 3 days later and was in the hospital for a week.
I couldn't imagine having to go through that in the US without the Roe decision.
Baby killers
Jesus. I’m so sorry.
Without row v wade.. your wife and that baby would both be dead
That seems so highly irresponsible to let her go on nearly dying for that long. Clearly you really wanted that baby but damn.
If any fascist piece of shit tries to call you a murderer, because you didn't want to let your wife die to cater to their religious feelings, just call them a fake Christian and challenge them to Google "Bible bitter water" and call them a fake christian.
Or slap them across the face, I dunno, your call XD.
My mom had an abortion when I was 5-my little sister was 2. She wanted the baby, but it was in the wrong spot during implantation. It didn’t implant in a tube like ectopic pregnancy, but too low. The pregnancy was very high risk-worsened by the fact that she was 37 at the time. 10 weeks in and she was in constant pain and had to be admitted to the hospital. Week 11, she was told that she would have to spend the entire pregnancy bedbound inpatient. At week 12, she made the very hard choice to lose the chance at a third baby, in order to keep herself able to take care of her two kids that were already there.
My little sister had special needs at the time. She is a superstar in med school right now, but back then, she didn’t speak and would freak out if my mom was even in the other room.
I’m a grown woman now, and I remember my mom as always being there for me. As present. Who know how differently my life would have gone had she not been there during that pregnancy, or after if it had killed her.
It’s no one else’s right to dictate if she should have gone through that pregnancy. Her health concerns were and still are between her and her doctor. It’s up to every woman to make these important choices about our lives and our health by ourselves-whether we make those risks or not is up to us.
@@skyblkbly7261 So the rest of the country is guilty of what happens in NY? You can't blame local problems on the entire country. Also, banning abortions simply tackles one sympton of the problem, but not its root cause - which is insufficient sexual education.
Thank you for relating that. What these conservative anti-choice idiots don't get is that not every situation is the same. You can't make a blanket law that covers EVERY medical decision that women are facing, but apparently the GOP is doing that.
@@skyblkbly7261 So what do you say when red states start outlawing condoms? Contraception is next on their list, trust me.
@@skyblkbly7261 That still isn't your decision to make. Also, no one is treating abortion like a condom. Rates only include pregnancies, you would have to factor in all of the pregnancies that were prevented through contraception to even consider making that sort of claim. Becoming pregnant is a stressful even that most women want to avoid if not intentional.
@@skyblkbly7261 so you’re the ultimate authority on abortion rights? I’m gonna guess that you’re a man.
I'm back here after Roe Vs Wade got overturned. This is a dark day in history.
Same...
Yes how are we supposed to kill 600,000+ babies a year now?
Science is conclusive to say that an individual, unique human life begins at fertilization. Therefore, abortion is murder.
rvw
VOTE BLUE
I am so enraged by this and I don't even live in the United States. Reading the experiences of people in this comment section makes me teary. And yes John, you are right this is just as much about people who need it medically as about emotionally, financially
The common ground where I think we can all agree on is if it is a product of rape, incest or if it is life threatening to the mother and/or baby, yes?
And that there are several preemptive options available instead of an abortion, such as...
Abstinence
Marriage
Adoption
Contraceptives
Education
Awareness
Agreed?
@@_BenJaminCroft_ Dumb copypasta is dumb
@@_BenJaminCroft_ Most abortions happen to people who did take precautions (almost like if people who didn't want babies, didn't want babies, whaaaat?)
Making it only accessible after rape? how many rape cases are aknowlledged by authorities? how long does it take? Reminder that 70% of rape cases leave not enough proof to be considered as such, 9/10 victims are too affraid to even talk about it to the police. We need to perform abortions no question asked.
Making it available in case of emergency? what is emergency? who decides it? There is no absolute rule in medecine. It is not a number of boxes you tick. Will the doctor be at risk for a lawsuit in case it is judged not urgent enough? Do you think they will risk to go to jail for a woman?
Abortions, unwanted pregnancies will happen no matter what, nothing is 100% safe but sterilisation. Abortion rights need to exist. Can we agree?
The 2 partners should be offered long term contraceptives, not just the ones with uteruses. Can we agree?
People should learn where the clitoris is, and that women don't need to be penetrated with a penis, or even to be penetrated at all to have enjoyable sex. Actually it is even more enjoyable like that. Maybe men should learn new ways? Can we agree?
I'm also very confused as to how marriage prevents unwanted pregnancies, please explain. Married women get abortions....
Science is conclusive to say that an individual, unique human life begins with fertilization. Therefore, abortion is murder.
If you are Indian,you should be more enraged by the Female Infanticide in India and forced abortions in India.RvW does not ban abortions where a rape or medical emergency occurs....media however likes to pretend otherwise.
As a CPS worker, I see the tragedies that happen to children that are born and unwanted.
Romanians saw that too, when Nixon and Ford's favorite communist dictator, Ceausescu, enforced Republican-style girl-bullying laws.
@@godfathaofyo You should see the moms die in childbirth
@@godfathaofyo You most certainly have seen no such thing.
@@godfathaofyo not sure a six week old foetus is a child my friend. A 6-year-old living, breathing and suffering little one is, however.
@@mayarosenberg1813 such a miniscule number of abortions are for the "mother's health"...over 92% of abortions are elective, aka last form of contraception available.
You know things are fucked when John uploads TWICE
Exactly my thoughts... how are we fucked this time and how can john make me giggle about it?!
Yea ikr things were so much better in the dark ages when we didnt have some idiot with terrible takes complaining to a bunch of sycophants online. Enjoy the echo chamber. Reality is catching up to you people lmao.
@Benjamin David Lurie - what, is giggling suddenly a fucking crime now
nope, things are pretty good now. They did the correct thing, mald about it
@Benjamin David Lurie dawg if anyone is on the spectrum it’s you. Wtf are those videos
"No matter what men think, abortion is a fact of life. Women have always had them; they always have and they always will. Are they going to have good ones or bad ones? Will the good ones be reserved for the rich, while the poor women go to quacks?"
- Shirley Chisholm, Unbought And Unbossed
Lots of appalling things are a fact of life, and one of them gets trotted out regularly as an excuse for abortion. Can you think what it is, and are you arguing that it should be legal on the same grounds?
@@RealJohnMurphy why would I play guessing games with a rando on the internet... particularly about something as important to women as this? 🙄
@@RealJohnMurphy instead of being deliberately obtuse, be a man and say exactly what you mean. God men are ridiculous.
Ah yes who could forget the time Adam stuck a vacuum and forceps up inside of Eve to terminate the pregnancy. People just don't understand how long abortions have really been around.
@@RealJohnMurphy Is it appalling to get an appendectomy or a splenectomy? Is it appalling to have a miscarriage? Is it appalling to enslave women to give birth to the children of their rapist?
Let's focus on my last question: would you force a woman to give birth to a baby conceived from rape? In OK, a man could rape and impregnate a child and that child would legally have to give birth. If you don't find that appalling, then you support a blatant violation of the 13th amendment; you support slavery. If you do find that appalling, then how do you remedy the situation? Do you permit an abortion? If so, then you recognize that abortion has legitimacy, and that your argument is an ad hoc fallacy.
You have an untenable position.
The question we need to ask the Supreme Court is "how do feel about orphans, like a lot of them?"
You are asking the wrong question.
There are three types of justices. The first two are activist judges. These are those who find a way to bend the law to fit their political and social views. This is all most progressives worry about since things like "abortion rights" were created by a liberal activists on the Warren Court. So now too many just view those who side against us as conservatives.
This brings us to the ignored third type. The judges who try to focus on applying the law while leaving their emotions and personal beliefs out of it.
Why would their feelings matter? They believe they are doing their best when they give verdicts that follow laws they disagree with. In their world legislatures write laws and courts just enforce them.
The real question is why have the past generations of progressives failed us? Why have they relied on a shoddy ruling to protect reproductive freedom? Why not pass an amendment so the Constitution is on the side of reproductive freedom? Why put us at odds with judges who take a literal look at the law? Why were stuck hoping that half the justices would be liberal activists when the person appointing them is Republican half the time?
Amy the Con loves orphans. It's how she's building her collection of kids, I mean family, now that her uterus is broken.
My great-great-grandma died from sepsis, after she and her husband tried to preform an abortion at home. It was the depression, and they couldn't afford another kid, so she knowingly risked her life. My great-grandma was shipped off to her distant relatives without even knowing what had happened to her mother. These laws hurt families for generations.
I've known about stories like that - and ones that weren't quite so lethal, but still bloody awful - but it's still horrible. I'm so sorry that happened to your family.
I wish people realized how dumb the "this is going to create unsafe at home abortion" argument is. I lean pro choice, but stop using that as your basis of justification. It's literally going to appeal to no one that already has feelings against abortion. If anything it just makes those people sound crazy and further deepens their established mindset.
@@Daniel_AurA But it's the truth, Daniel. And if people don't know what the truth is, then their made up mindsets stay that way forever. It's being faced with the truth that sometimes changes the mind of people... if they aren't crazy trumpublicans.
@@Daniel_AurA Not entirely sure what you meant by this, but think of it this way:
If someone is on the fence about abortion, but thinks that banning it will save the lives of unborn fetuses, I think it's helpful to tell them about a case that's personal to me, in which anti-choice legislation did nothing to save the fetus. In my experience it's pretty pointless to argue whether life begins at conception, so I find following the "what will making abortion inaccessible *actually* do" train of thought more compelling. In this case, it directly resulted in the death of someone in my family *and* her fetus.
This happened to my great-grandmother and my second great-grandmother. Both great-grandmothers were interrogated by police on their deathbeds because the police interrogated women before allowing them medical treatment in the early 20th Century. The inquest for one great-grandmother was 23 pages long and just heart breaking.
I will never understand why judges in US can openly flash their party affiliations. Aren't judges suposed to be unbiased?
Up until the 1960s, that /was/ the norm. Judges were discouraged and actively chastised for stating their political leanings once they were appointed to their posts. That is, until the mid 60s, when someone, somewhere, asked the question: "I wonder if we can get Judge (enter name here) for an interview...?" At that moment, judges stopped being judges, and started being political commentators and C-list celebrities.
They still go through a performative declaration of such, yes. But now it seems they're 'allowed' to just straight up lie to the Senate confirmation panels about it, so all bets are pretty much off.
It is totally impossible to be unbiased. .not one single person can be unbiased, especially with matters of morality. .
They interpret the Constitution.
That was 45yrs ago. Even then the Supreme Court was conservative & we got Roe. Tells you how fascist the right has become. Only 1 of the founding fathers was openly christian. Most were'nt religious at all & knew there had to be a separation of church & state.
After being incredibly depressed about the results of the RvW case last week, thank you for making me laugh again. I really hope that we can win this fight for women everywhere
Yes how depressing that you can no longer kill babies in states you don't live in.
How do you people all of a sudden know what a woman is?
You can. But, do it the right way this time. Rather than have a liberal activist court create a "right" that undermined every ruling which had come before through a series of legal gymnastics that are so thin the only way they have held up is that the court has since held it can't undo this since it would undermine the integrity of the institution.
What is the right way? Change the source of the problem. Add an amendment to the Constitution. The problem isn't constructionist judges who rule against an unenumerated right rather it is the reliance on activist judges - since they will have to be liberal activists. Change the source and those who follow the doctrine of original intent will switch their rulings. Protesting outside their courts will accomplish nothing.
Science is conclusive to say that an individual, unique human life begins at fertilization. Therefore, abortion is murder.
Roe V wade as been overturned WIIN.
I know a lot of people who work in social services and one big issue with banning abortion is that the people who are hardcore pro-life, dont actually give a shit about the child. They dont try to get more funding for social services, foster care systems, adoption, welfare for single parents, supporting disability government funding, nothing. Nada. I was one of the lucky few who could get social services as a child for much needed support but other children dont have that.
It just makes me upset when people claim 'moral superiority' (if they truly believe a clump of cells is alive), but dont actually do anything about said 'children' (of course there are few that will support social services, but they arent even 1% of pro lifers as a whole)
@@TheBearGrappler Still a stupid argument. Should we deny healthcare to road-accident victims because they CHOSE to drive, which can be risky?
They're "pro-life" until birth. They're not really pro-life, they're pro forced birth.
The one thing I wish he'd also touched on is that if abortion is legally considered murder, and murder is legally considered a felony, and felons (in many states) can't legally vote, then this disenfranchises exactly the people who would vote to protect their right to an abortion.
I didn't even think of this. I'm screen shotting your comment and posting it everywhere i can.
You should get disenfranchised. You nots. Babies are the future. But live for today to die in a tenth metropolis is the Them way.
even if the person gets a it is a way for the far right to suppress votes.
That's the problem with taking away a convicts' right to vote in general and not one that's exclusive to this topic. The state of Washington made it illegal to harass Bigfoot, and if a court convicts you of this crime, you can't vote for a governor or congressional representative that thinks this is a dumb law.
@@darcymarie3486 lol, you dont have a very high IQ huh?
When I had an abortion I was in an abusive relationships, just diagnosed with a brain disorder, living in a trailer park, and blood tests showed that my body was starving. Getting an abortion was the best decision I ever made, and it's the reason I'm a successful person now.
I don't remember this passage in the bible Jesus
@@matthewleahy4363 Probably because of that whole Council of Nicaea thing where they edited out all the cool parts.
So basically a human sacrifice for another succesfull one. I always knew you arent that nice, Jesus!
@@MrDoggysmut Can you please define a medically necessary abortion that, if left unperformed, would result in the mothers death? Just another human sacrifice to you?
I have a somewhat similar story. It was the right choice for me. It was a highly personal and health related choice. I am saddened beyond words at the rhetoric on this topic. I attended a church service on mother's day and the preacher actually said, from the pulpit, that he has been praying that roe v Wade is overturned.
Watching this shortly after I found out it as officially over turned. Thank you for the Elmo joke. I NEEDED a good chuckle after how pissed I am over this.
awwwww. pissed that you won't be able to kill your unborn child. too bad. How about people be RESPONSIBLE for their offspring - born and unborn. Not whine about not being able to kill them
Know that feeling
It's deeply concerning that some people think it's a-ok for a woman to kill her unborn child for any lame reason she wants....
@@mathildeyoung1823 There's nothing horrible about women having control over their own bodies, no matter how blatantly you try to twist it
@@Anvilman It's not me doing the twisting.... By your "logic" punching a child needs to be legal because that's just an evil parent controlling their own body (fists).... Just like child abuse isn't about an evil person doing something with their body (fists), abortion isn't about a woman doing something with her body - it's about killing another innocent human being. And that needs to be illegal.
Somebody should make a website that keeps track of how many women die from complications from birth and other deaths from the illegalization, I think it would be very enlightening to pro life people.
To be honest, do you really think they would care? I am quite doubtful myself.
We need to stop counting on them to turn around. They've been on this fight for 5 decades all while roe v wade has always been supported by the majority of Americans. Their word is garbage.
They won’t care; they are into punishment and derive pleasure - scary folks.
Unfortunately this is what they want. All of it, poor women dying, poor women getting illegal abortions so they can charge them for a felony and keep them from voting. They even want women to have miscarriages for the same reason. And before you say I’m overreacting it has ALREADY HAPPENED. A woman in texas got 30 years for having a natural miscarriage. The only goal of this was to make people who can give birth miserable, poor, and prevent them from voting again. They were never pro life.
@@stijn2472 Sadly, I tend to agree. The middle ground here is ‘if you don’t like abortion, don’t get one - but that doesn’t mean I shouldn’t be able to make that choice.’ And yet, the anti-abortion camp seems to think they get to impose their beliefs on others. That’s the fundamental issue here and I don’t know how to get them to care. Any death from illegal abortion would be seen by them as just.
When you consider that many of those states have laws allowing the marriage of minors to middle aged adults, it becomes more horrifying. Also it's my personal opinion that forcing a child to be born into a family where it will be unloved or malnourished is a far greater crime than an abortion, because it is the deliberate torture of a human being.
It will increase crime in the future. There is already correlation established historically.
So do them the favor of killing them? Horrific.
THIS GOT DAMN IT.
THIS DOES NOT GET SAID OFTEN ENOUGH
I disagree. One's upbringing will not dictate their future.
@@remington7457 did you mean to reply to Berk Sarioz' comment about crime and upbringing? My comment is not about upbringing, but the emotional and sometimes physical torture unwanted children endure.
Pro-choice is pro-life. A child should be born into a family that feels capable of meeting their emotional, mental, and physical needs.
abortion leads many women into mental or emotional struggles, so I wouldn't say that as a fact.
Yes, absolutely. There's no way someone can say they're "pro-life" if they don't respect the mother's choice to 1. not risk a pregnancy/birth and 2. not have to bring into this world a kid who they can not support
well said! this is a point which those right-wing nut jobs oh-so-conveniently forget. a child born into circumstances where the unwilling mother doesn't can or doesn't want to look after it will not have it easy. moreover it's not like there's any support from the state so do you really wish this burden upon anyone?
This, 100% this.
Until we enter into a society where we can guarantee these things for every child, we shouldn't be forcing children into this world. There is no point in increasing our numbers if the quality of life goes down for that new individual. We should always be striving to provide a future that is better for our children then our own was for us. Till then, we need to use every trick we have to ensure we don't ruin our own kid's life by bringing them into it too early....
I wish I could create a huge billboard with this. 💯💯💯💯💯💯
This is also a fight over your right to GET pregnant. A lot of people with uteruses, myself included, are in a horrible position of having to decide if we want to get permanently sterilized or not for their own safety. I would like to carry a pregnancy someday. Right now though I cannot safely do that. If I got pregnant and didn’t get an abortion I could be permanently disabled. I am genuinely considering getting a hysterectomy just to avoid that risk.
Don't worry, you don't have that option either. Women have been fighting to be voluntarily sterilized for decades and the answer is the same. "No. You're a mental child who can't make decisions about your own body because I, a total stranger, know that you MIGHT want to birth a child in the future."
It's almost like it's not about the pregnancy and more about the mother's bodily autonomy....
Please remember: if you take a pregnancy test, after your period is a SINGLE DAY late, you are 4 weeks and one day pregnant.
Even if you only had sex one week ago.
how so?
@@NoNameAtAll2 just biology, the development of the foetus i believe correlated with your cycle.
All this notion about a period being "late" by a couple of days is so much crap. No one I know gets their period without at least a couple of days of variation. Women's bodies aren't clocks.
@@letolethe3344 that’s kinda the point i’m making… there is no way to know that you’re 4 weeks pregnant at times
@@NoNameAtAll2 because when the doctor is determining how many weeks pregnant you are, they go by the first day of your last period. So if your last period was 5 weeks ago they will say that you're 5 weeks pregnant - even if the only time you had sex was 2 weeks ago.
The scariest line in this show was, “Under the current Supreme Court, your basic rights today, could become crimes tomorrow.”
please explain how aborting your child is a basic right
Terrifying and poignant.
Tell that to gun owners in several states, where they had the right to bare arms one day and the next day they were made felon's...... I have no sympathy for you're argument.....
@@WordoftheFree Guns protect the population. And that is no good. The population must dye. If it harms the population, then it is a right. If it helps, then it is not. That is how Dems think. Because they nots. Hopefully forced medication reinstated will be next for the Supreme Court.
@@WordoftheFree were those legally purchased firearms?
Welcome back everybody. I'm not at all surprised we're here as promised, yet it still cuts deep
hopefully less human beings will be cut from the womb and killed after this ruling
If a fetus can be frozen for 27 years and then carried to term but the same baby can’t be frozen for 27 years and live, how can they possibly be considered the same thing?
Gotta love how everyone cares about the baby until after it's actually born
After the baby is born all people care about is ‘why do people need food stamps? Get a job and if you have a job, then get 2 jobs! But don’t neglect your kids while you’re working 2-3 jobs!!!’
the baby gets taxed and put into the ridiculous education system filled with drugs and debt! Need to keep Democrats in power until 2032 or else you will lose most of your rights
Carlin said it best: Pre-born Ok, Pre-school “fuck you”.
Congratulations you just gave birth to a baby, now get back to work or get fired! Its not as hard as gave birth so I know you can manage both
What the fuck are you talking about?
Imagine being the republican party, calling yourself the party of individual freedom and government staying out of your lives....and then saying they are going to have the government force women to bear children against their will. 🤷♂
Should we be able to murder people then. Wouldn’t want the government telling you what you can and cannot do.
Yep. I'm sure my very VERY republican friend won't touch this subject with a 10 foot poll. He knows he'd get owned.
Imagine being the Democrat party, being completely against individual freedom and body autonomy unless it involves your right to force a baby into a blender.
@@Bobbyblades
Your argument is trash.
I have arms and legs, and I wish I was aborted.
They are all about state’s rights, they always frame it federal government vs individuals but leave out the federal so their base thinks they mean all government and actively vote against their own self interests.
Imagine living in a country where we could stop circling around to the same issues every generation and do something more worthwhile. We're still fighting about the same things for 100 years and it's exhausting.
The fight for abortion was in the last 50 years phsicopath
Exactly abortion should be banned so we can move on to other things 👍
“ I'd call it dystopian if it weren't so fucking American.”
John Oliver
Why do people not realise that no one “likes” having an abortion. It is a mentally and physically difficult thing to go through but sometimes, that is the best option. It can save years of financial and emotional trouble. And adult women can decide for themselves what their best option is. If someone is making the choice of an abortion, they will not be doing it flippantly.
Agreed. There will always be some, but do we really want to force that type of person into parenthood? I wonder how many abortions DJ tRump has paid for over the decades?
@@nerfherder4284 Many more than the over a dozen children that he has fathered...
Most sensible comment I've seen on the matter thus far.👍
I suspect the people pushing for these laws have a certain ideology that causes them to see everyone not in their in-group as immoral idiots who can’t possibly have valid opinions of their own. They immediately assume that all pro-choice people are sociopaths who have abortions for fun or because of satans influence.
Great point! Even when the end-decision is very clear and reasonable, the decision-making process and the actual process are horrible and gruelling. No one wants to be faced with this and everyone suffers a trauma, even when they make the decision whole-heartedly. No matter the age, social status, marital status.
It really is horrifying how Alito's reasoning could be used to overturn Obgerfell v. Hodges (gay marriage), Lawrence v. Texas (privacy to perform any sex act between consenting adults), Griswold v. Connecticut (access to contraceptives) and Loving v. Virginia (interracial marriage).
You can say goodbye to medical privacy for every American too. HIPPA was built off the precedent of medical privacy that Roe established. What is to stop the state of Florda or Texas from personally reviewing every citizens medical records looking for potential of an abortion, even for ectopic pregnancy, and then punish the patient? Texas already signaled it is willing to prosecute mothers and doctors.
It can't. Alito's reasoning is that Roe v Wade used faulty reasoning to decide when it's okay to actually end the life of something with human DNA. I hadn't heard that gay marriage, blow jobs, or interracial marriage involved taking something that was undeniably eating growing and making it so it could no longer do either of those things.
The decision explicitly disclaims all of that and gives the reason: because there is no other life potential life at stake when considering the penumbral right to privacy in those cases.
"privacy to perform any sex act between consenting adults" I don't know if that one is related to prostitution at all but it made me think; Prostitution is illegal presumably b/c it's sex trafficking, i.e., sexual abuse of (usually) women. So they know that offering someone money for something makes that thing coercive to an extent. But they don't feel the same way about other forms of employment...b/c then our whole economy would fall apart.
@@seal869 You'll excuse me if I'm reluctant to just accept that on faith, given that the justices signing off on this are the same ones who stated during their confirmation hearings that Roe v Wade was settled law.
Watching this... today... the day it was overruled, really means a lot... a leap back of feminism, leap back for women's rights.
I mean, as a catholic, I dont know what to say about this
A leap forward for fetal rights
@@conrad1478 You don't actually fucking care about that
I am from the Netherlands. Since we use Viability as the boundary, someone can get an abortion until the 22nd week. We feel that is a healthy middle ground between respecting the mother's right to choose and not forcing doctors to abort pregnancies that are so far in that you could consider it a fit-for-life Human. Contraceptives and condoms are readily available, sexual education is mandatory, and we got a pretty good child support law in the 40s. I was not expecting that the USA would do half of it's citizens dirty by taking their rights away. But since they're so keen on telling people who don't like it to leave the country, feel free to consider moving back here. The language might be a pain in the ass but we all learn English in secondary school anyway so who cares.
You'd think the U.S. would do something sensible like that, however, it's quite good at just being the worst in the developed world.
The reason for most limits on abortions actually have nothing to do with ethics and are just about the fact that after the third month abortions become significantly more complicated and dangerous, essentially being an artificially induced miscarriage. So at that point it might actually be safer, or at least carry less risk, to carry the pregnancy to term, so usually abortions in those situations will only be allowed if there's a good enough reason to do it, like medical risk or rape. Importantly in these laws it's not illegal to have an abortion after that term, it just won't be available purely at the discretion of the pregnant person so like doctors will actually be able to make an assessment based on medical necessity or something like rape without having to worry about breaking the law.
@@hedgehog3180 That's an ethics thing too tbh, because if the operation becomes more dangerous, then the doctor is being asked to perform an operation that puts the mother's life in jeopardy, and understandably, the overwhelming majority of them don't want that to happen because it would be bad.
Agreed. The common ground where I think we can all agree on is if it is a product of rape, incest or if it is life threatening to the mother and/or baby.
And that there are several preemptive options available instead of an abortion, such as...
Abstinence
Marriage
Adoption
Contraceptives
Education
Awareness
I'm not for an out right ban of abortions, nor am I in favor of abortions all the way up to birth. Any one of these far-left and far-right ideas, to me at least, are asinine of the greatest magnitude.
@@_BenJaminCroft_ no, that is not the common ground, that's just your insane opinion.
The real common ground is letting people who want abortions to have abortions, and letting people who don't want abortions not have abortions
"You Have no Rights. Rights aren't Rights if someone can take them away, they are Privileges. That's all we've ever had in this country: a bill of TEMPORARY Privileges; and if you read the news, even badly, you know the list gets shorter, and shorter, and shorter."
-- Paraphrased from George Carlin
Preach on
Rights have been expanded hugely throughout American history. The right to abortion didn't exist in any real legal sense until Roe in the 70s
the right to procreate or not is a right that people have, people should never have the right to murder their offspring. there are many measures people can take to ensure that they dont get someone pregnant or get pregnant. shortly after conception, i think that the person that has been created has a right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. if a person really doesnt want children, they should be responsible and take appropriate precautions, there are many. but as this comment says, i think they are arguing for abortion rights, takes away any right that the life created, that human, that person ever has. i guess you could argue that it is within your rights to murder a child because it isnt a fully developed person. i mean really you are attacking the fundamental right of life.
@@lldavidll Then you don't believe in freedom for women and you, a man, want to impose your belief system on others. You want to put women(and girls) in prison and force them through child birth. You want women (and girls) to die during unsafe medical procedures so that we can add to the over population of a species that is destroying the natural habitat and causing world wide mass extinctions of the other animals that are unlucky enough to share this planet with a life form full of religious zealotry and endless greed.
Make sure you keep up to date on the new death toll of women (and girls) dying because of your religious convictions. i can promise you I will be counting every single person you have killed. Not the imaginary maybe babies you worry about.
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"I cannot defend the system we currently have". Strong words, John.
@dont worry Would you PLEASE get a hobby.
True words. It's long past time we burnt it to the ground.
@@Tcrror its probably replying using script to auto post, so the creator likely does have a life and sends the annoying bot off on a video with a click
The best part about that statement is that he was really aiming it at the Democrats. They have abandoned the working class. They have abandoned the middle class. They have abandoned the poor. They are now failing to deliver on even the social issues that don’t challenge the fortunes of their wealthy donors. And they can’t even do the one thing that is supposed to be what we get in exchange for every trade off I just mentioned: protecting us from the Republicans. What a useless, corrupt, incompetent gang of shitheads.
Well he doesn't really understand the system then. This is a democracy and we haven't voted for a right to abortion. You need 60% of elected officials, which is reasonable because if it were just a plain majority then when a republican got elected it would be extremely easy to undo everything democrats did immediately because you only need to sway a couple people and there would be whiplash every 4-8 years. The plain fact of the matter is (unless you want to live under a dictator) you need to vote if you want change, and if elected officials aren't doing what you want them to that's because the issue is very closely split or voters don't care enough.
My view of abortion is simple let the woman actually enduring all this pressure stress and emotional distress make the decision. In every other health related decision if they capable to answer for themselves they can, why not here? And for those thinking from a life and religious aspect, then if she does decide to abort then that's a private matter for her to discuss with her God for forgiveness. And for the life aspect sometimes it's not as simple as I want an abortion, sometimes it has to be if we don't do this you can die also. And while yes tragic to think of the unknown life, it's better than someone essentially being stuck to die due to not having access to this procedure. It feels so disgusting to me that people having absolutely nothing to do with the conceiving of this pregnancy all of a sudden want full say over your life.
People believe life starts at conception and thus abortion is tantamount to murder. That's it. You're not allowed to kill people, period. I don't 100% agree with this viewpoint, but that's how a lot of people see it. To be honest, I'm confused how you can't understand their perspective.
@@blahblahblah747 while yes I understand a life is a life, but that's why I say it should her to weigh all that in. The reason some need counseling and mental help after something like that is because it's such a tough decision and taking things like that into account. I just feel that should all be weighed in on the person themselves to decide and roll with afterwards. I'm not trying to sound cold against a life no, I feel what's more important is someone's right to say in what happens in life.
@@deadpoolnerd Yeah, pretty sure conservatives view it quite differently from you. To them, as far as I can tell, it's simple. Abortion is murder and you should be punished if you murder innocent people, even if you're poor, mentally ill, etc, kind of similar to how they view crime. Again, I don't entirely agree with their stance.
@@blahblahblah747 It's easy to understand, it's just wrong and stupid is all.
@@blahblahblah747 I certainly don't understand their perspective. they don't care about sperms and unfertilized eggs, but the moment they combine, they are suddenly so important? the sperms and eggs were already alive. they are potential lives as well.
So, I have a take on this. I’m Christian, and I believe that life begins at birth, as the Bible says. But even if I thought it didn’t, and that a fetus is a living human being, it still wouldn’t be my right to choose whether or not other people can get abortions. That should be their choice, period
How does that make any sense? If you really did think that a fetus is a living human being, why would someone have the right to kill it? Why not just give the right for everybody to kill everybody then
I mean the only time the Bible talks about abortion it's giving instructions on how to perform it. There's literally no Christian argument for anti-choicers. It's a wholly anti-Christian movement by literally any metric.
A CHOICE! No one is forcing anyone to abort.
@@stella-gx8ne no one is forcing anyone to have sex;that is the real choice.....more than 90% of abortions are a form of birthcontrol.In cases like rape,ectopic pregnancies abortions are legally allowed.
You may want to check the biological findings of the last century - that embryos & foetuses are stages off human development (just like the terms infant, toddler & adolescent are) is a well established fact within the scientific community. They display organized growth, they develop & specialize, they respond to external stimuli, they can feel pain after couple months, etc. These are living human beings.
I thought my marriage was safe after Obergefell. Now I’m reminded there’s nothing stopping this court from essentially rendering my marriage null and void. That’s terrifying. If Roe v Wade isn’t safe, even after FIVE DECADES, nothing is.
If the court wasn't like this then the dred scott decision and all the decisions overturned during the civil rights era would still be active
As a straight guy, I had to google what Obergefel was, I had no idea but I knew it was important judging by your comment. I know I'm out of the loop on this but I imagine I'm not alone in my ignorance and you'd probably get more responses and thumbs up if people knew. Not your fault but not everyone is gonna take the time to google details like that of things they don't know.
Even if it is rendered null and void, you should still stand by who you love.
I’m concerned that after that interracial marriage is next. I am genuinely worried for Virginia v. Loving as well.
The republicans just want people to suffer.
@@diegorincon4673 And we the people should resist them at all cost. Stand up for the rights of our female citizens and stand by the people you care about and love. If someone declares your relationships illegal, tell them to fuck right off.
Oliver calling out democrats for their incompetence in stopping republicans gives me life
I agree; it's mind-boggling how Democrats missed opportunities to codify Roe v. Wade into law, ugh.
Pres. Obama, you done fucked up, heh.
The price of freedom is eternal vigilance. The liberal pro-choice faction seem to have taken their eye off the ball and allowed the toxic pseudo reiigious right wing zealots to reverse rights won in the 1970's. All rights won in the 60's and 70's protecting women, low paid workers, minorities etc have to constantly protected from zealots.
@@the-renegade democrats are spawning republicans more than ever. The social issues are the only thing they have and they arent even addressing them. If trump comes back a second time....it will be on them.
@@the-renegade codifying it into law won't do anything. Republicans can just overturn the law. The only option is to amend it into the constitution. Republicans seem to defend the 2nd amendment with every single last Fibre of their being. And its the only way they won't be able to fight for another 50 years to ban it again.
@@the-renegade Obama in his 1st term (and 1st half when he had a super majority) should have codified Roe. Except that THIS SCOTUS was going to invalidate any such law anyway.
BTW, 2008/9/10 even 11 Obama was contending with the financial collapse and the Great Recession. NOT defending him, but codifying Roe would not produce the result you're looking for.
One: The GOP LOST (certainly the popular vote and perhaps even the EC but Jeb Bush being George's brother may have pulled a fast one) in 2000. In December 2000, SCOTUS in Bush v Gore sealed Bush's victory. Bush appointed Alito. Then Merrick Garland's appointment was thwarted by McConnell. Add to this that RGB flat out refused multiple times when the Dems had the Senate and the White House to retire and allow the appointment of a younger, potentially longer living protégé to be appointed in her place. THIS totally phaqued things up. So not entirely on Obama!
"5 of the biggest weirdos in the country." Classic John Oliver line and completely 100% true.
Even if a fetus has personhood, no personhood has a right to use another person's body/bodyparts without consent. So personhood is a moot point
If it is not a product of rape, incest or life threatening, then it is 100% consent on her part.
@@_BenJaminCroft_ Nope. You're just pretending it is to justify oppressing people.
@@Anvilman Nope. She can travel to or move to another state that allows abortions for selfish and self-centered reasons. Instead of legitimate moral and life saving reasons.
@@_BenJaminCroft_ Thus it will disproportionately punish poor people, who can't afford to move, like most Republican legislation. The politicians who passed the legislation and their corporate donors will certainly be happy to fly out their mistresses when they need one though.
@@Anvilman They don't have to move. They can still travel to another state. And if I'm understanding you correctly, women are just too stupid, lazy and broke to travel? That's pretty damn ignorant and sexist.
I wish more people would also stress that a lot of what is being swept up in this is what even many people who are against abortion would not consider abortion. D&Cs after miscarriage. Ectopic events. Non-viable pregnancies. This does not just affect those seeking abortions. It affects every single person who can get pregnant and their families. If affects every single American. It could be you or someone you love who suffers sepsis or dies because doctors refused to remove an already dead baby such as happened in Ireland and in Poland -- both of which supposedly had exceptions for life of the mother but in a state in which performing an abortion can lead to fines or prisons, doctors will let women die. Anyone who thinks this won't affect them because they make "good choices" is living in la la land.
I'm waiting for this to get to the point that woman begin getting imprisoned for miscarriages since they see medically called "spontaneous abortions." I mean, if we're going to go backwards, we know this won't be the end of it.
Keep on with the fear tactics.
@@stevenp25100 they aren’t making anything up lmao
My ex had an abortion five years ago. She was told all her life by her doctors that she would never be able to become pregnant, because of her numerous health issues (she didn't want kids, anyway, but her "not being able" was why doctors also refused to give her an IUD, because, hey, what's the point? 🙄).
Of course, she became pregnant, it was ectopic, she absolutely would have died were she forced to carry it through. I'll always remember going with her to PP, you know, so they could save her life, and having to walk through a gauntlet, outside the entrance to the building, of horrible, hateful humans screaming at her, calling her a murderer, etc. Good Christian folks, huh.
At least she's still alive.
If you can’t reproduce you’re better off dead to the GQP
As an Irish person I thoroughly appreciate John Oliver not trying to teach our history and his awareness of why he shouldn't 😂😂😂
That's because as an Englishman he knows his country had policies that exacerbated the potato famine and continued the Protestant Catholic civil war.
@@kevinloving3141 Just an FYI - the Potato Famine is increasingly called the Great Hunger, because potatoes across Europe experienced blight at the same time but other countries didn't have famines, and Ireland was producing enough of other crops to feed its people, but it was the English government's response that resulted in the horrific famine that Ireland experienced.
Rua Ever since I was a little kid all I heard about was the fighting in No. Ireland. In 1992 they finally passed the Belfast Law I think but unrest continues. As usual, as John Oliver knows it's just another colonizing mess the UK created 400 years ago. So talking about Northern Ireland's problems esp with England would take years.
@@bonniea8189
Thank you for the update as a 60 year old American all I ever heard The Great Hunger called is the potato famine.
Why not talk about it? I'd like to know.
Now they are talking about taking away my protect right to... MARRIAGE and medical care. I'm gay.
I'm not somebody who subscribes to the slippery slope mentality, but the fact that this opinion explicitly says that Obergefell should be "reconsidered" as a result is shockingly blatant.
That's not a slippery slope; that's a fucking water slide. We can see the path that was engineered and where we WILL end up if we get on
@@RogueSpectre749 It is a cliff.
Conservative nationalists have returned to their routes and are using the word "degenerate" more often in order to describe homosexuals and transgenders. Did you know that the Nazis also labelled their victims as degenerate? The Nazis also named homosexual art as degenerate, just as the conservatives are doing today when talking about modern "degenerate" art.
Sadly, in Montana, the following restrictions on abortion were in effect as of May 26, 2022: An abortion may be performed at or after viability only in cases of life endangerment or severely compromised health. So that means those who are raped or can't afford the child or any other things that isn't health don't have a choice.
Does mental health count under "severely compromised health"?
@@stijn2472 I'm not finding anything saying otherwise. But I wouldn't be surprised it doesn't count.
@@stijn2472 It had damn better.
Let us not forget to mention America's grade A (NOT!), top shelf (So VERY NOT) and socially unbiased (about as much as slavery was) fostering and adoption services!! Heaven knows there aren't enough abandoned, abused and/or neglected children, being placed into those overpopulated and dilapidated systems already...
"Progress requires a consistent, sustained struggle, a willingness to disrupt everyday life, and actual courage from the people that we choose to lead us." Such a beautifully written line. I wholeheartedly agree.
@chris johnson I think giving people freedom to do something when it doesn't impact others at all is freedom and going towards it is progress. If you don't think abortions are okay, don't get an abortion. Its that simple.
@@apoorvshah3276 Bingo. Bans off our bodies!!! The same is true for the right wing lunatic fringe, including Justice Alito, who wasn't to undo other rights such as the right to marry or have sex with whomever the fuck you choose, as long as it's another consenting adult. Same sex marriage is definitely on the chopping block. Contraception rights are being attacked in numerous states from Arizona to Idaho to Louisiana.
Bring it commie !! We will meet in the battle field after Novembers red wave and in 2024 after trumps victory !!
@@gigapatriarca5245 sir, not everyone is a commie. Go take your meds.
@@mariec3733 Yeah you’re all commies some more then others.. but all of you progressives and democrats are influence by Marxism
Women are banned from having one until a man doesn’t want to be burdened and then see how fast he drags her to get one…
"If you can kill this mother fucker, I can at least abandon him. It's my money, my choice. And if _I'm_ wrong then perhaps _we're_ wrong." - Dave Chapelle
This aged like fine wine.
Unfortunately
Yeap, unlike the fetuses of pro-life republicans who still get abortions
My Dad was telling me that all a woman needs to do is take care of herself for 9 months and just have the baby - it's as simple as that.
I think his ideas of the emotional and physical tolls of not only bringing a baby to term but delivering and adopting out the child speaks to reason why this is a debate to begin with.
Also, how my mom, his wife, responded best summarizes how the pro choice feels about pro life: "Your father is an ass."
Should the government have the legal right to force people to use their bodies against their will to save the life of another person? Even at risk Of death, quality of life, physical damage to self, and financial ruin? Body autonomy is important. We even award it to our dead.
No your father is wise and it's too bad you didn't inherit the "decent human being gene" that all pro-lifers have. Like ya... If you have sex you knew the potential consequences. You can't murder a baby to run away from the problems you created!
Don't want a baby? Here's an idea... Close yer damn legs and open a bible, ya?
You think there is no official and emotion toil to killing your baby in the womb?
Your mom sounds cool!
One of my best friends committed suicide because she couldn't get an abortion due to being raped after she moved out of Ohio. Having to live without her being bubbly and cheering me up - it hurts. So, banning abortion shouldn't be a law. Rape and incest as well as medical issues is a perfect reason to get an abortion. Telling a woman to do with her own body is wrong.
Oh my God. I'm so sorry and so angry. My birth control failed me bc of my epilepsy medication. I'm pregnant with a man's child who lied about everything! His job, the number of kids he had (said he had 2, he has 6), whether or not he was married (told me he was divorced & sent me fake divorce papers, he's married), he put a tracker in my car and sent me in to be hospitalized for depression and after that put a tracker in my car. I am trying to file a restraining order against him, bc he hospitalized me, the cops thought I put the tracker in to frame him! Wtf?!? It was one of those Apple airpod things. The cops have not followed up and he still sends me flowers and shit to harass me. Manipulative aholes like this should be having mandatory vasectomies for rapes or if they aren't providing for their children above the poverty line. There should be regulations and bodily rights taken away from men again too. It's soooo fucked. The guy that raped your friend should obviously be in jail too. I've been raped and sexually assaulted before and never reported any of it. The rape, I was just a kid and terrified. The sexual assault, if I knew who those guys were that took me... I would have filed a report. I was in LA and terrified and just fucking happy to get back to my hotel and safe again. I just wanted to get home and couldn't believe what had happened. The last thing I wanted to do was go to the police station and miss my flight and relive everything.
The shit is soooo fucked. I wasn't on drugs, just a little tipsy and taken advantage of and scared af. Glad to be alive though. Men deserve more fng consequences, this shit happens WAY too often and BTW Amber Heard should go to hell for making people question women. She does all our sisters such a disservice!
@@pazamour I completely agree with you. I was raped and that took my virtue at 13, yet I was called every name in the book for something I didn't ask for. Once the whole high school heard what actually happened, everyone apologized. || As for my friend's rapist, he was killed in the prison for something else he did. But yeah, men need restrictions for sexual stuff too.
Like my biological father, he has 20 kids; once the woman is done with him, he pretends that the kids isn't his and moves onto the next woman. Men like that need mandatory vasectomies.
And thanks. Kay's in a better place and she won't have to suffer anymore. ❤️
@@pazamour Great post, but I would just say that people were questioning women long before Amber Heard.
nope...not wrong...not at all....there are exceptions,sure....but overall,murder is still wrong,no matter how you try to talk it up
@@bluebomber- too bad for you, you're wrong. Opinion rejected.
we now no longer live in a country that has roe v wade. *donate to your local abortion providers*
And another right bites the dust. Still makes me laugh whenever people say we should teach history only through the lens of progress when there is just as much regression.
I'm sure slave owners whined about their precious so-called right to own a slave biting the dust when slavery was made illegal...
There never was a right to kill an unborn child. Abortion just happens to be legal - since it ends the life of a vulnerable human being it needs to be illegal.
@@mathildeyoung1823 Oh a nice false equivalence. Cause truly, owning people is the same as bodily autonomy. Funnily enough those slave owners controlled what the slaves could do and now states are...going to be able to do the same thing with women's own bodies. Weird.
Also, (don't know why I'm even bothering) it's no more of baby murder than the nut I busted into a paper towel yesterday.
What is this right that you speak of?
Hi, I’m from Poland. Exactly two years ago the same situation was happening here in Poland. Since Poland is a country that consists mostly of Christians and elderly people who chose the far-right government that we currently have, abortion has been a very controversial topic. During the peak of the pandemic while people were forced to quarantine at home the government decided that they want to impose an abortion ban. Despite multiple protests that people attended risking their lives because of Covid the government still went through with it. The ban applied also in the instances of fatal fetus illness. Soon after, there was the first death of a woman who died because of a septic shock because doctors couldn’t remove the fetus after it died. The woman was already a mother to two kids. After that more instances were made public of women dying because the doctor’s hands were bound by law. Multiple women also shared their stories of miscarriages and how badly they were treated because of it. To take things further the government made a law saying that anyone who gets an abortion or performs it faces up to 3 years in prison. I’m afraid to live in a country where I’m treated as a replaceable incubator. Please don’t let them do it in the US as well.
Wow, that's heartbreaking. So many kids are going to end up motherless because of these barbaric laws. I'm furious.
I think we're not on the same team, but I also didn't like what happened after they changed abortion law in Poland. However, in general we're talking about a 1000 abortions a year in Poland, while the US have like 2000 abortions a day. I'm afraid that in America the problem lies somewhere else than legal issues and abortions will stay where they are, but I might be wrong.
Do doctors in Poland not have the Hippocratic Oath?
I want to know as I plan on going to Poland and would like to know whether my health may be jeopardized or not by incompetent "medical professionals"?
@@unrealmrg What is the difference in population between Poland the US? Shear numbers mean nothing. And if birth control were free and easily available to anyone who needs it, there would instantly be less abortions. It's hard to get well woman care and thereby birth control treatment.
@@leepiekiel1740 they do but unfortunately when they face up to 3 years in prison for removing even an already dead fetus it’s too risky for some and they choose to obey the government when it comes to it
I'm from Colombia, and I can assure you the activists who led the fight to decriminalize abortion are as hardcore and dedicated as John Oliver perceives them to be 💚💜
Well done then, to you ladies! So happy for all of you!
Congrats! I hope it lasts for you
Definitely hardcore. Have continuous casual sex without protection and then kill the baby that results. You should be ashamed of yourself in 2022 when contraception is dirt cheap and basic self-control is all you need to avoid killing babies.
Personal autonomy sounds like just a jumble of words until you realize you dont have it. Or are about to lose it. May the spirit and fevor of Columbian women infuse the fight we here in the U.S. are about to enjoin. Its not just about the right to choose to not have a child, its about freedom to be whoever you are.....
You Columbians don't mess around, that's for sure.
Land of the free is the greatest lie ever in history.
Reversing Roe means more unborn children will have the FREEDOM to live
@@mathildeyoung1823 no, it's means the state has the right by law to let women die for a plant. Yes, a plant, it might be growing but it is not conscious or can feel pain.
@@hallaja8338 Human beings aren't plants... And if a woman's life is endangered due to the pregnancy, doctors can deliver early to attempt to save the baby's life and to save the woman's life.
Most abortions have nothing to do with the woman's life being endangered. Most are done for excuses of convenience like money.
@@hallaja8338 Women trying to use the 0.02 chance of death during childbirth to justify the elimination of tens of millions of human beings.
@@mathildeyoung1823 money is a very valid excuse. What if the woman can't support a child financially? Children cost a lot of money. You lot only seem to care about life before it actually matters. As soon as those babies are born, y'all don't give a damn. This is about controlling women and nothing else
“Yeah I just do like voting”
“Yeah I don’t believe in voting.”
“Yeah I just couldn’t stand Hilary.”
“Yeah I didn’t like either candidate.”
You did this. All of you.
Why would the lords care what the peasents think
I am not pro-murdering babies.
I am Pro-Becky who found out at her 20 week anatomy scan that the infant she was so excited to bring into this world had developed without life sustaining organs.
I am Pro-Susan who was sexually assaulted on her way home from work, only to come to the horrific realization that her assailant planted his seed in her when she got a positive pregnancy test result a month later.
I am Pro-Theresa who hemorrhaged due to a placental abruption, causing her parents, spouse, and children to make the impossible decision whether to save her or her unborn child.
I am Pro-little Cathy who had her innocence ripped away from her by someone she should of been able to trust and her 11 year old body isn't mature enough to bear the consequences of that betrayal.
I am Pro-Melissa who's working 2 jobs just to make ends meet who has to choose between bringing a other child into poverty or feeding the children she already has because her spouse walked out on her.
I am Pro-Brittany who realizes that she is in no way financially, emotionally or physically able to raise a child.
I am Pro-Emily who went through IVF ending up with SIX viable implanted eggs requiring selective reduction in order to ensure the safety of her and a SAFE amount of fetuses.
I am Pro-Christina who doesn't want to be a mother, but birth control methods sometimes fail.
I am Pro-Jessica who is FINALLY getting the strength to get away from her physically abusive spouce only to find out that she is carrying the monster's child.
I am Pro-Vanessa who went into her confirmation appointment after YEARS of trying to conceive only to hear silence where there should be a heartbeat.
I am Pro-Lindsay who lost her virginity in her sophomore year with a broken condom and now has to choose whether to be a teenage mom or just a teenager.
I am Pro-Courtney who just found out she's already 13 weeks along, but the egg never made it out of the fallopian tube so either she terminates the pregnancy or risks dying from internal bleeding.
You can argue and say that I'm pro-choice all you want, but the truth is I'm pro-life.
Their lives.
Women's lives.
You don't get to pick and choose which scenarios should be accepted. Women's rights are meant to protect ALL women, regardless of their situation!
Please feel free to copy and paste!!
No, I agree that abortion should not be limited to the point that it affects a woman's health in a life-threatening manner. I think most people who are pro-life agree with this, too.
I'm pro desparately women not ramming rusty coathangers in their uteruses like it's 1922 or 1822 instead of 2022. *No one* is proabortion.
YES TELL IT
@@KB-zq9ny They don't. Missouri lawmakers want to ban the termination of ectopic pregnancies. They want women to die for the crime of getting pregnant incorrectly.
@@prettyevil6662000, if they do, I'd argue that they're doing it wrong and not following people's wishes, but from what I've seen of this debate, all of these changes that could come about by discounting Roe are hypothetical, intended to get leftist voters to pass some kind of harsher reinforcement of abortion, probably. I agree that it's not a wonderful place to be in, though, and, like I said, I don't think pro-life voters are in favor of restrictions that could potentially kill women, either, and any laws applied like that would probably be clear overreaching.
"They understood that voting is only meaningful if the people who win actually do what they promise you." THANK YOU JOHN
But this is so disingenuous! Democrats are trying to do what they said they would but they’re stopped by the filibuster and we don’t have the votes to get rid of it! 98% of Senate dems voted for the Womens health protection act, House dems passed it and 96% of senate dems voted to get rid of the filibuster! The problem is that we didn’t win enough elections and we haven’t elected enough democrats yet!
yes lets give women even more power let give them the power to decide if thepre birth child is worthy to live or not.
HE IS F*** ALIVE WHAT WRONG WITH HE IS A BENCH OF CELLS EAGERLY TRYING TO DIVIDE AND GROW INTO A HUMEN NOW YOU WANT TO KILL HIM BECAUSE SOMEONE FORGOT TO WEAR PROTECTION
Maybe it’s a good thing that we separate to our blue states and red states. Let them run the way they want without imposing on the rest of the pop.
To be fair, 80 million people didn't actually vote for Pedo Joe
@Bonka You really don't understand the concept of States Rights and the Federal Governments role. Please take a cheap course at a community college.
really appreciate how he used gender neutral language to talk about those that need abortions. trans, intersex, and non binary people need abortions too, and it’s important that our language includes them in these conversations.
This!!
Roe V Wade should 1000% be an Amendment.
It is absolutely unreal seeing the same group of people that freaked out about fucking face masks and literally said "my body my choice" but when it comes to growing a literal human being these same people think no one should have a say over their own body
My body my choice is your slogan and then you forced everyone to inject industrial wastes for long life. And it ain't their body. Baby got different DNA.
The amount of hypocrisy is mind boggling. I read recently that, while Republicans say they are against abortions, Republican women get them just as often as Democratic women-they just think that their own abortion was justified by their “special circumstances.”
I also read that Republicans are actually _more_ likely to take their own daughters to have an abortion than everyone else.
Take this with a grain of salt, because it has been a while and I don’t remember the source, but I absolutely believe it from a party that preaches one thing and turns around and does whatever the hell it wants.
Agreed! And the hypocrisy is indeed strong on BOTH sides. I’m pro choice, but I won’t march or donate anymore to the cause, after seeing what my “side” did during the pandemic, with bodily control, denial of natural immunity, denial of medical exemptions, job loss, families torn apart, calls for suppression, censorship, separation, and general nastiness. The left has, in part, brought this on themselves. (This coming from a lifelong devoted and politically very active democrat - whose finally Starting to wake up.) Now, I would help a friend “get help” but I won’t necessarily be giving my vote up just because of this one issue and I won’t be giving my money to any parties anymore. Now, Pre-pandemic, they would have had my money, my time, my vote, but they have lost me - and many others like me. The left has some apologizing to do if they are going to win, in my singular opinion.
@@CarolineGirl81 Wrong choice is not a choice. Thems and their silly slogans.
The better view on this is who is the politician representing. The pregnant mother or the fetus. And conservatives are pro-fetus (pro-life), not anti-pregnant mother. I’d prefer a complete overhaul on contraceptive availability, sex education, and responsibilities of the man in all this. The problem is unwanted pregnancies. We reduce that, then we reduce the need for abortions.
If we harvested all the viable organs from every person who dies, we would save thousands of lives.
But even a corpse has more bodily autonomy than a person who can get pregnant -- unless said corpse gave permission before they died you cannot harvest the organs - no matter how many lives it may save.
But you can force a person who can get pregnant to allow their organs to be used by something that cannot live on its own and is not yet a person... people who can get pregnant have less control over their bodies than a corpse.
And as soon as the person has that kid no one cares anymore. We scorn them if they need help, and waggle our fingers at them and say "Well you should have thought about that before you had a kid!" It's sick and completely ignores the possibility that the person tried not to have a child (contraceptives failed, they were raped, etc etc). We deny them help and aid.
Well said❤️
PREACH!
But the question isn't the bodily autonomy of the women, but the right to life of the fetus
Women have more rights when they’re dead. It’s pretty sad.
@@pancakecosmos6080 separate the fetus from the uterus during the time most people get abortions and it will die because it is not developed enough to sustain its own life outside of her body. Therefore, the living person (mother)'s rights take priority. Nobody is out here getting abortions after the fetus is developed enough to survive on its own.
The supreme court has done two things for two reasons. One: they say, "violates" the constitution. The other was "never rooted.."
The last time I checked, 'well-regulation' is required by the rights of that same constitution and there will always be consequences for our personal actions or behavior, but the right to choose (something) has always been, and will always be perpetual.
I'm assuming you're referring to the 2nd amendment, correct me if I'm wrong.
"A well regulated militia" is actually separate from "The right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed" . All of that is protected by this piece of paper you never read called "The US constitution"
It takes a village to raise a child. That means paying taxes and redistributing wealth to single mothers. Until America is willing to do that, it doesn't get a say in what people do with their foofoos.
I didn’t know I was pregnant for three months. I was 20 years old. I was incredibly fit. I still had minor bleeding, that I attributed to be my usual low-flow period. One day, my boss sat down with me at lunch and very kindly said that I could work for her as long as I wanted to or felt that I could. (I worked on a horse farm.) I didn’t understand what she meant. She said, “Well, you’re pregnant, and I want you to know that your job is safe.” I immediately took a test and yes, I was pregnant. I had NO idea. My husband and I used condoms. I did not use birth control because at that time it was incredibly expensive and we had no insurance. (That’s a whole other discussion.) So much for that. Point is, we had our first child, so that worked out. But many women don’t even know they are pregnant and may have been taking prevention measures that failed. Point is, these decisions should not be made by anyone but the woman, her partner, and anyone else she chooses to have the discussion with like her medical provider, clergy, family, or friends. This SCOTUS disgusts me.
Let's hope your kid never finds out.
Just curious. How did she know you’re pregnant? Instinct ? Thank you
@@bendover7841 why? So the child was an accident but she kept it and raised it and has a happy family. That is the case for many pregnancies. Why do you think that's something that is shameful or that you feel the need to attack her?
@@Sharonmplus I've seen this Bend Over account comment in the most vile manner in other topics as well.
@@bendover7841 fascist Sharia Catholic?
Did you ever think the phrase "Donald Trump picked one-third of the supreme court" would ever be uttered and not be a joke?
White male power movement extremists Nixon and Reagan were worse than Trump, and the supreme court was worse then too
The feckless Democrats let Trump, Mitch McConnell, and the GOP scam THREE justices, including one that they blatantly and hypocritically rammed through one a month before an election and literally did nothing to stop it or fight back against it.
The Democrats are with feckless, useless, cowards or just bought off to do nothing on purpose.
Well done everyone.
Donald trump didn't even exist in my world until 5 years ago
it's like how Donald Trump is president used to be used as joke in movies about the future
Why.?. it's a privilege to be picked by greatest president of all time.
I don't understand how you can be for guns but against abortion. Privacy is a right.
privacy is a horrible excuse to take the life of a defenseless human being though.
Even if it'll save 10 lives, it's still illegal to use the organs of a corpse if that person had not indicated that they wanted to donate them.
A dead body has more autonomy than living women in most states...
And the autonomy of the unborn life inside her?
@@_BenJaminCroft_ Not a problem; if a fetus or embryo ever speaks up and declares that it prefer to live and be born, I can assure you it will not be aborted.
@@Anvilman Be a voice for the voiceless. Defend those who can't defend themselves.
@@_BenJaminCroft_ In other words, you're just projecting your backwards beliefs and desires onto them.
@@_BenJaminCroft_ Or... consider that there is nuance in this discussion! It is not black and white... and to see it as such will dishonor the rights of the unborn and also the pregnant! When a 12 year old is raped and becomes pregnant... YES... YES! She should have the say over what happens to her body. When a woman is taking precautions and still, the birth control fails, she should have a right to have a say in the course her body takes! I'm hesitant to say (Ben) that men shouldn't have any say in this but you will never ever ever (in 5,000 years) experience that fear.
I love love LOVE the argument that if WE don't like something, we can go someplace else, but if THEY don't like something, we'd better change the rules to suit them.
Followed by bills being introduced to make it a crime to do that very thing (travel somewhere to have a medical procedure)
It's called... Ppl don't want to pay taxes for you to kill your baby... Forcing ppl to support baby genocide is beyond sick and unacceptable. I'm just pissed it wasn't banned everywhere. Baby steps I suppose you'd say!
@@annaharper1657 it's a fetus, it could be the size of your fingernail sometimes, that's not a baby, why would the potential for that to become a baby be so important, why do people want to force women into turning fingernail sized cells into babies, and then take care of said baby, sounds like people just want to put stress on women for being able to create in the first place
@@annaharper1657 Why are you even here?
@@annaharper1657 define a baby, because abortion is not allowed if the fetus can live outside of their mother
As an Irish person, me and my friends were just talking about how wild it is that in our lifetime Ireland has gotten more and more progressive (when I was born divorce was illegal in Ireland, now there's been referendums passing marriage equality and abortion) as things in the US seem to go backwards.
Also I love how everytime John brings up Ireland it's followed with "and that's all I'm going to say because I sound like this" haha.
That's what we need in the US, referendums, not legislatures full of males, making these decisions.
his mechanic has an irish accent. he know his limits
One clear word: referendums. In Europe and some other countries referendum are "normal", the people decide, not the sad thing we get in other places of the world, where some "elected politicians" think they have the right over all the population as they see fit and will.
Irish fought the British as Nationalist and as Catholic for how many hundreds of years ? only to Elect a Gay Indian who is flooding Ireland with Millions of Indians and Muslims. Progressive? In 20 years there will be no Irish people in Ireland. And You call that progress!
@@ikocheratcr California has something similar to referendums (ballot propositions), but unfortunately it doesn't always work out well.
Prop 22 recently passed, allowing companies that employ gig workers (i.e. Uber, etc.) to continue not classifying workers as employees, so as not to pay them wages, benefits, and a host of other things. In fact, it ended up creating this weird hybrid classification of employee that's somewhere between a full time employee and an independent contractor, but without much of the benefits of either classification (from the perspective of the employee). You can bet other employers will be eyeing that new labor classification to see if they can use it too. And even though this was only in California, it'll spread to the other states.
Why did the people vote this in?
Money. Massive ad campaigns by Uber et al. to convince voters that Uber drivers wanted Prop. 22 to pass.
I'm a Canadian, and I'm so, so, SO angry.
It might be time for the left to get more comfortable with guns. I don't think the american Right is going to stop short of mass armed violence.
I had a psych patient tell me, I didn't want to go to the hospital, but they made me go, now I have to pay the bill. If abortion is going to be illegal, then the woman who is forced to have a baby shouldn't have to pay the bill.
Sadly there's an even bigger issue here; The legitimacy of the whole supreme court. What we're supposed to have is the separation of the three powers, but both the executive (president) and the legislative (congress) branches have meddled with the judicial for decades trough appointments primarily motivated by politics and meddling with the confirmation of appointees respectively. Separation of these branches is clearly not working and they're merely a tool for party politics.
And the Supreme Court making a ruling that should have been an amendment further muddies the waters, which is why we *want* the Supreme Court to say "we didn't actually have authority here; this should have been handled by legislative bodies."
Well yeah our party system controls the gov. AND the ppl and the media-the masses subscribe themselves to sides too!! And power of president and executive branch has grown exponentially since FDR. President has and can send troops anywhere, keep secrets, make laws (executive orders!!) and more and more.
@@benjaminsorensen9334 that IS actually what they are trying to say?
The SCOTUS should have three Conservative Justices, three Moderate Justices, and three Liberal Justices. Both parties should keep that in mind when it comes times to appoint Justices to the SCOTUS as it should represent the American People rather than just one political party !!!
At this point there is a lot to gain from straight up murdering supreme judges.
I love the part where the lady says “this is not an opinion that’s going to undo abortions in this country” and literally the next day Mitch McConnell says “it’s not impossible that we try to ban abortion at a national level”
Proving you can't trust ANYTHING that comes out of the GOP.
They are not just coming for abortion rights...they are also coming for contraception rights, our medical care, our rights to have a credit card and a bank account and own a home, our higher education, our high paying jobs, and women's right to vote which has only been in place for 102 years. These younger generations don't understand just HOW IMPORTANT AND ALL ENCOMPASSING THIS IS.
This is NOT about abortion...
it is AN ALL OUT WAR ON WOMEN !
Just like the Republicans stressing "we don't want our messaging to make people fear for their contraception" the same day a bunch of GOP candidates talk about wanting to ban the pill and Tennessee passed a law making Plan B illegal.
My favorite part is when John Oliver gives me a reason to hope for a brighter future and a plan to fight for it… my second favorite part is when Jerry Falwell dies.
Also what’s your favorite class, fellow guardian?
@@hughquigley5337 I main Hunter, but I play a lot of Titan. I like Warlock but it’s generally the last class I end up getting things for.
ABORTION IS MURDER !!
Key lesson here:
It's not about what's right. It's about what works.
I was watching this video when the news about Roe v. Wade came through. Jesus Christ.
The Handmaid's Tale was supposed to be dystopian, not a step-by-step guide.
1984...fyi we have lived in a dystopian society for a very long time.
Margaret Atwood used past events in history when she wrote the Handmaid’s Tale. She tried to warn us.
It was based on things that had already happened
They never stopped denying bodily autonomy to biwoc. They've been sterilizing people in prison and immigrant camps the whole time, and denying "essential healthcare" to others. They've been doing it the whole time
you notice the book of the Bible that gave the abortion recipe was conveniently left out...
Remove a woman's right to choose to give birth, refuse to pass a bill that increases the time for maternity leave for her to heal and care for her newborn. It is clear that they are targeting and punishing women for not "staying in their place." A woman who identifies herself outside of having a husband and popping out a bunch of babies to maintain the husband's legacy is "clearly a harlot..."
It's also getting exhausting hearing the argument that women just need to use "all the birth control options", when it's possible for ALL of them to fail (and equally possible for her to somehow get blamed for that).
@@unrealalchemist As a woman who unexpectedly lost my right ovary at 23 (and suffered intra-uterine scarring that will make it more difficult to conceive in the future) 'cause of an improperly placed IUD (which I only pursued because no doctor would prescribe me above the bare minimum dose of birth control, resulting in several unwanted miscarriages that led to depression and anemia on top of the untreated PCOS, PMDD and endometriosis)...wholeheartedly agree. Why can't I charge the surgeon(s) who royally mucked up with manslaughter of my unborn grandchildren?!
The entire motivation from the GOP is how to make more white babies to keep their ideological majority even as the vast section of their voters are likely to die off within the next decade. The conservative movement never cared about BIPOC abortions until they could be used as props to end the easy and private access the white women had. They never cared about the quality of life of those who are born because they already have their game set up so they can blame all the failings within their tiny flyspeck part of the country on the actions of other racial, social, and political groups instead of actually addressing them.
@@unrealalchemist it is possible for you to be killed by a falling brick or airplane part... somehow I think it is statistically insignificant.
Pro-abortion people are always like "what if rape and incest, and all contraceptives failed!"
Yeah let's build a law for 0,01%
All it's about is that 6 rw SCOTUS are telling us we now must all view women as property.
Women aren't suppose to use their minds, their hearts, their conscience because Rethuglicons say we all are things, not even human. Property.
Anybody voting for any Rethuglicon in Nov., supports SCOTUS decision & thinks the same way.
Any Rethuglicon in power anywhere is dangerous.
We need to open up our eyes now!
Whelp
Looking forward to a re-run of this ep tomorrow
And the ruling just came out. C'mon people, don't let the Senate fall on GOP's hands.
Some facts:
If you make an exception for rape and incest, it's not about the life of the fetus. It's about punishing people for having sex.
You can't just take away someone's rights, like medical decisions, just because you don't like their life decisions.
An abortion is a difficult choice to make, and no one except the mother should make that choice. Not her husband, not her doctor, and not some judge.
I've always argued that if it's a difficult decision to make, then there is inherent value in the "clump of cells".
Never made up my mind about the whole thing though, see a lot of pros and cons on both sides of the aisle.
Just never want to the guy that writes the law or the doctore performing the abortion.
Exactly.
I actually have more respect for the people who don't make that distinction. At least their beliefs are consistent. Effed-up beliefs, yes, but consistent.
It's when they start making value judgements that their entire theory unravels.
It’s not about punishing people for having sex, it’s about punishing women.
Punishing women.....
@@annieoakley9207 That's not a fair assessment and you know it.
Perhaps it's the most hardcore pro-life advocates that are driven by their desire to control others. But then again, the cruel and inhumane way a lot of staunch pro-choice activists describe ending life is disturbing in itself.
I think most people are compassionate and see both sides of the argument.
As an Irish man I proper laughed out loud when John said he wouldn't weigh in on Irish history because of his accent 😂😂
Can you please tell me about this lol
@@seanmower3926 the 800 year occupation of Ireland by the English when resulted in millions of Irish that were killed or had to emigrate. Plus the current state of Northern Ireland because they refused to return it
@@seanmower3926 additionally to what the other person said, look up the Cromwellian conquest of Ireland.
@@seanmower3926 additionally to what the other person said, look up the IRA (Irish Republican Army)
@@UndertakerU2ber additionally to what the other person said, look up "Irish Potato Famine" and "Sir Charles Trevelyan, 1st Baronet"
As a German, I sometimes am unable to understand the complexity of US culture, but it feels to me like US parties don’t move with the electorate in opinion. Which is weird because we hate politics for flipping to easy with public opinion. I guess after watching US news for 4 years, I still have so much to lern an understand.
If men could get pregnant, this wouldn't be an issue at all.
Men are misogynist and that is because of woman itself sorry but a man begins life before is a child and it's a mom's duty to teach him to break the cycle no matter how shitty the husband is. Woman makes womans life miserable. If they spanked her child man then this won't be an issue
John, as an Irish citizen, I think you're one of the only people who sounds like that who I'm 100% okay with speaking about ireland's history
Why wouldn't we be proud about talking about our history. we took the war to the British we brought it to their doorstep. they soon discovered we were the wrong people to mess with.
I'm thinking Ireland may become my new home, now!
He's not Irish, the joke went right over your head
@@killerluuk no it didn't re-read it.
@@killerluuk reread the comment lmao
Since most of the opposition to the right of choice is based on religion, I feel like we don't mention the Freedom of Religion argument enough. Freedom of Religion is so important to our founders that it is literally the First Amendment in the US Constitution. It was drafted to maintain a separation of church from state. We shouldn't have laws that allow religion to dictate our laws.
Except when it’s women dying from medical complications due to giving birth bc they can’t get an abortion?
And also, if a politician is using Christianity to steer their decisions, their decisions should be Christ-like. When the town wanted to stone a woman for sleeping around, Jesus said, “Let he who has never sinned cast the first stone,” saving her life. Jesus defended widows, orphans, poor people, disabled people, and those of ill repute. If Republicans want to use His name, they should not do so in vain!
If my belief that perjury is wrong, or that polygamy is wrong, or that grave-robbing is wrong, stem from my religion, does that make it a violation of freedom of religion if I want the government to outlaw those things?
@@rickmilk2360 Then surely you support the death penalty for any woman who gets an abortion? Since, y'know, they're murderers? And if a woman is caught trying to get an abortion, they're guilty of conspiracy to commit murder?
Our laws ARE based on biblical law. No way around it. The right, contrary to belief, is the VAST majority in this country. They will have their way and you can do nothing. It's about to become a very dangerous place for non believers.