There is a great/sad video out there of a legislator from, I believe, Idaho - who asked the question “can’t we have a woman swallow a camera to film the baby?” He literally did not know that fetuses do not develop in the stomach. And he has more say over the bodies of women in his state than gynecologists in that state.
That's because corporations are citizens, thanks to the brain-damaged non-ruling of "Santa Clara vs. Southern Pacific Railroad (1886)" Our society now has two kinds of citizens, the lowly flesh-and-blood peasantry, and the immortal supercitizens called corporations. What a great country.
Yeah, amazing point. They should have to give everyone 2 years to crowdsource the money and take the time to move to a state that doesn't see them as expendable.
@@danielroscoe5797They have to make up nonsense like that because the real reason they support abortion is that they want women to never be held accountable for their horrific behavior.
Abortion, by definition, is any termination of a pregnancy. Miscarriages are abortions. They will present the exact same way. It's why we already have cases of women being charged with murder for miscarrying. We have cases of women DYING because of miscarriages. And doctors are afraid of assisting in cases that toe the vague lines in certain states. So their argument is correct. It directly means people will be harmed from the lack of legal care. @@danielroscoe5797
Sure, an embryo or fetus should Not be granted greater rights than a living, breathing autonomous human being. Right now, in the US a dead body has more rights than a living, breathing Woman in many states in the USA. But what about the baby? It doesn't have a Right to use my Body if I don't want it to. Just like a person needing bone marrow or an organ transplant(who could Die without it ) doesn't get to just use yours without your permission. People Die every day because they couldn't get a heart, lungs,liver,kidney transplant, etc. If there is a match from someone that has just Died and they are Not an Organ Donor their organs can't be used to save those lives eventhough they are No Longer using them. 😏 How's that, asshat? 🤨
@danielroscoe5797 The argument is that it's not your body, and you don't have the right to restrict what is done with it or if someone can choose to care for it or not.
Abortion is a medical procedure best decided by a doctor and Patient that should not be influenced by religious views as all religions do not think abortion is forbade by scripture. In fact if you read the bible you can find a clear case of abortion being permitted by the clergy Number :20 where it outlines the process @@danielroscoe5797
How about being pregnant in 1958 with twins that expired in the womb and the doctors could not give me a d&c. I carried these dead babies inside of me for 4 extra weeks, taking the chance of septic poisoning. Not only the danger, but having to through the extra time when friends tell you, “ You are six months, you sure aren’t getting very big”, do you tell them, “Oh my baby is dead and I have to wait until they spontaneity abort.” Just imagine the horror of having a decomposing baby inside of you. Sad indeed.😔😢
I can't even imagine. That must have been so devastating. I'm so sorry you had to suffer through that experience and hope that the years have dulled the pain. I hope your life since then has been much kinder. My mom was born around then and we've talked about how it was for her growing up, hearing whispers that such-and-such cousin or older sister or family friend had had to go out of state for an undisclosed medical procedure. Maddening that we seem to keep having to fight for all our old victories again. Wishing you the best, internet stranger 🙂
@@Zibanu Yes, even though I still carry those little girls deep inside my heart, I also sill carry the sadness over not being able to see them or hold them because the nurse in the emergency room thought it best I not see their decomposing little bodies. She thought it may be too traumatic for me and I’m sure it would have. I appreciate her compassion.
As someone who was forced to continue their pregnancy as a teenager, it changed the trajectory of my whole life. I do everything I can to provide my child with better opportunities than I had, but I have had to struggle most of my life both financially and with all of the grief that comes with mourning a lost childhood. I'm still struggling over a decade later as an adult, thanks to the current economic and personal mental health struggles. The impact it has on your life never goes away.
I'm genuinely sorry you feel this way. At the same time, I applaud your decision to be responsible for your own actions and decided not to make your innocent child pay for it. All I can say about "mourning your lost childhood" is that depending on your social background it's highly unlikely that you would have amounted to anything exceptional, which I really don't mean as an insult. That vast majority of us go about our daily lives and try to live as decently as possible which from what you're saying is pretty much what you're doing already. I'll also add that I admire the likes of you about a billion times more than any egocentric loser who kills their own offspring to "focus on their careers" which means being a drone for someone else's company in 99% of cases. Don't feel sorry for yourself. During your life you will have left a much more enduring and true footprint that will echo through time than any of the rest of those losers.
My wife had an abortion because our baby was diagnosed with a severe skeletal dysplasia on the 21 week ultrasound. She had a severely small rib cage, undeveloped lungs and would have suffocated to death if carried to term. The abortion had to be approved by the hospitals ethics committee. All late abortions are done for dire reasons. We don’t need more laws regulating this.
Yep! 100% of the times that people get late abortions, it's because either it's a medical reason, or they were physically prevented from getting one. Nobody willingly carries a child they don't want for that long.
Exactly. People forget that human beings with morals and ethics have to perform abortions. Most doctors wouldn't perform an abortion passed 20 weeks unless it was an emergency.
sorry to hear that about your wife and child but 99% of abortions are not because the baby is not healthy but just because they do not want to have a baby and that is a big issue and should be illegal.
@@adamw7411 WHY don't these women want to have a baby? Would you be willing to increase everyone's taxes to address the economic issues that drive women to seek abortions? A baby is a tremendous financial burden for the next 18 years -- the kind of burden that destroys marriages and breaks women raising a child alone. Are you willing to take financial responsibility for the laws you support?
“We are a very safe place for little babies” Saying that in a country with the amount of children living in poverty, going hungry, dealing with school shootings, going into the abysmal foster system is so infuriating! None of these people care about children or anyones life at all just control!
Notice he said little babies not children seeing as Texas has the highest number of school shootings. Shame on the interviewer for not calling him out more
The US is not a safe place for children. You rank number 1 in the world with 288 school shootings in 10 years. Mexico is number 2 : 8 shootings. Afghanistan : 3. And keep in mind that the "pro-life" and the "pro-weapons" are basically the same guys.
If there was ever any thought that this was "for the children" please remember that currently there are two different lawsuits actively going through Texas courts, both brought by different women against the State of Texas. The first of which is close to the story presented here, a mother was told her baby would not make it and her life would be in danger, she couldn't get an abortion and ended up suffering dearly for a couple weeks from it, she's asking for clarification on the law and arguing it's unconstitutional, the State of Texas is saying that that unborn baby that will 100% die is a person and has rights. The other case is brought by a pregnant female prison guard who was working a shift when she felt something was wrong and asked to be let off early so she could go to the hospital, to which she was told she'd be fired if she did leave - losing medical insurance and her pay right before she was supposed to have a baby - so she stayed, after her shift she went to the hospital and found out her fetus had died. She is now sueing Texas for violating her unborn child's rights, to which the State of Texas is arguing the unborn fetus isn't alive and therefore doesn't have any rights. The State of Texas is, right now, arguing that an unborn fetus is both alive and has rights so terminating it, even to save the mother's life, is murder, while simultaneously arguing that unborn fetuses are not alive and do not have any rights. They do not care about the Children, they care about control and whatever is convenient for them.
@@alasdairgodewife8534Shrödingers Foetus is the exact phrase that came to mind when I read this comment. Then I saw your reply and realised I wasn’t alone . Now I’m feeling a queasy mix of relief (that I’m not the only person on earth to have this very specific, awful pairing of words run through their brain) and abject horror (that we live in a world where a term like ‘Shrödingers Foetus’ can accurately describe the state of public health legislation in the United States)
The fact that people against abortion are also fully opposed to free child care, raising wages, and providing free heathcare for the already born says it all.
This is also a class issue. Rich Republicans can and will continue to get abortions while the poor will struggle mightily to get one. Also as a Kentuckian Beshear has been a damn good Governor and I'll do my part in the election Tuesday.
That's 100% true. A rich teen can "go backpacking" in Uruguay and no one will know. And they'll also get to know Uruguay, which is pretty cool, I guess.
"Poor"? Condoms are basically free and/ cheap. Whats crazy is that we all consider ourselves "adults" but that all goes out the window when it comes to abortions. If you're a woman and youre poor, maybe the last thing you should be doing is drinking and fuxing without a condom. Its incredible how much lack of accou to women have. Unreal.
@bbabbich3467 There is also a privilege issue with voting. Not everyone can afford to take a day off work to vote at a poling station. I can walk to mine and vote in about twenty minutes. For many, it takes hours on public transit and hours waiting in lines, assuming they don't close the polls before even getting to vote. Voter suppression is a very real problem and I'm not gonna wag my finger at people who don't do something that's easy for me but difficult for them.
8:33 The same thing happened to my mother. Not only was my brother going to die in a horrific manner but my mom had a high chance of dying herself. My parents went to their priest. He said, “How can I tell two young parents what the right choice is when two little girls could end up motherless?” He made them feel okay about going through with the late term abortion to save the life of my mother and prevent my brother from suffering. My mom got the abortion and went on to have another baby. I shudder to think about what could have happened if they went to any other priest of didn’t even have the choice at all.
@@Hal_T Probably more then you would think. I find that in most situations people tend to actually want what is best for people especially people they know or are in their community.
"Allow our children to get abortions without our consent" Wtf ? Your underage child is pregnant and you want them to stay pregnant. That's the nightmare.
What kind of a parent would you be to force you underage child to have a child which would be result of SA (as they are underage), which due to their age would be super dangerous for their bodies? WTF?
@@darkerthanblack6413 Why? It doesn't matter. It could be rape and nobody would care. If it is a pregnancy by underaged kids exploring their urges, who cares. You are just shifting the topic and in the end you gonna act like a fetus is a person. It is always the same.
In the states where abortions are banned, the people should DEMAND complete childcare, public education, nutritional assistance etc from the legislature. Since they claim they are the safe havens for the babies, the states then MUST provide so. Call them out for their hypocrisy. It won’t save all mother’s livelihood, but it will help some.
That’ll never happen. Makes you wonder if it’s not the republicans who are eating babies, just trying to expand their dinner tables. After all they are the party of projection. Jesus! Vote blue. 💙💙💙
It really gets bizarre when the same people who want to revoke birthright citizenship and deny social services to undocumented immigrants also were the ones who refused abortion access to pregnant women in ICE detention, many of whom were victims of sexual assault during the long journey from their home countries.
Everyone else already weighted their opinion on the topic of abortion. I just want to point out that we really need to restrict political ads for being misleading or just outright lying. Hell, just ban attack ads altogether because they usually don't add anything to the candidates themselves and it's often a vector for misinformation.
Many Americans don't know this but attack ads are actually a very strange and unusual thing in modern democracies. In fact, the US is the only country I can think of where they are legal. Most of my fellow Europeans are shocked when they find out you can legally smear your political opponents in campaign ads in the US. Such practices are strictly banned in Europe. Most European countries don't even allow political ads on TV or radio, regardless of what the ads are like.
This is why we need publicly funded federal elections. Give all candidates the same amount of money and make them all managed it (we'd find out who was a bad money manager), and ban TV and Radio ads, but mandate that the 3 big networks give a small amount of free air time to 1 ad where the candidate highlights their position, and it runs for 4 weeks before the election and that is it. No donations, no Superpacs, just one lump sum of money, make it work.
That's a good point. But also freedom of speech is regulated...for example you can't yell "FIRE" in a movie theater when there is no fire...I'm not a lawyer, but I presume this is because it causes public harm. I think a similar case could be made for attack ads. And if that is the case, then we could certainly strive to make attack ads illegal.@@BlackLivesMatter1414
@@SpaceSnaxxx you can do that all you want, its just that if you do, and people are hurt or die in the reaction to you doing git - you have zero defense.
As a pregnant person in Texas me and my husband had to come up with a plan if the worst case would happen. I have another child.We legitimately had to sit down and plan on how we would get across the border if something goes wrong. Something else they don’t talk about is how you are treated over all as a pregnant person in those states matter your voice is completely taken away from you. You are treated as an incubator not a human. It’s awful
There is a reason I keep making the comparison to blood donation. It actually saves human lives (not fetuses) and the impact is significantly less than a pregnancy that goes to term properly, let alone complications. Yet you are never going to be forced to donate blood.
I am so sorry....no one a "free" nation should have to endure this at the hands of their own government. I hope one day you & your family escape Texas.
@@samwarren2850I understand what you both are saying, and you’re absolutely right, but I’ve encountered forced birthers on social media (one literally just yesterday) wanting to jail parents for not donating blood/organs to their children. So kind of like how people said they’d never overturn Roe, don’t think they wouldn’t try.
I grew up in a catholic high school and their stance on abortion was a bit strange. They'd "support the mother throughout the pregnancy and help welcome the baby into the world", but as soon as the baby is born, both parents are expelled from the school. They were vehemently anti-abortion, but at the same time, they refused to support anyone once they got their child because they feared the stigma of teen pregnancy, despite one predicament being arguably more dangerous and burdening than the other
My child was diagnosed with anencephaly and my wife was going to be forced to carry our child without a brain, which means she couldn’t think hear smell feel or do anything it means to be alive, to term and risk health complications. On top of that if the baby is not still born which can still happen we would’ve been forced to pay for life sustaining treatment and bring the child home and cover life support and at home nursing until the baby passed on it’s own. Even though by definition she was never really alive she never had a brain. The amount of trauma and money and health risks we would’ve had to endure if not for her family being able to pay to get us out of state was insane! We weren’t inducing labor on a live child. She had no brain and 0 chance for survival yet was going to be forced to carry…… so sad and I pray for all these poor women and families.
@Heathernd 1 second ago I have a friend with a child who has this condition and her child is actually very fulfilled in life. They have many difficulties but this child is still a beautiful happy image of God. Never give up on your children.
You guys made the right choice even though I’m sure the whole experience was very stressful. My mom had to make a similar choice. I hope your wife is doing well 💗
After all this time, I think that is actually the only thing we lead the world in currently. Now that might be a bit patriotic of me, might be a bit too American of me, but I do just feel like we're the champions in that regard.
John forgot to mention that it's also caused maternity doctors and medical students to leave states, which causes entire maternity wards to shut down. The entire state of Idaho has ZERO maternity wards. Even anti-choice women and their babies are being punished for their cruelty
For anyone else who's spidy sense was tingling at this comment. I looked around and it seems like one major hospital stopped doing on care, not all of them. Still an issue, but let's try to avoid hyperbole. "Bonner General Health in Sandpoint -- 400 miles north of Boise, Idaho and serving about 9,000 people -- said it would nolonger be providing obstetrical care due in part to the state's "legal and political climate,"
@@jecsah Yeah, it was the only Hospital in the COUNTY, so still a big deal, but certainly extreme to claim the whole state is without maternal care. Due to the location of Bonner County it still is closer for many to go to Washington instead, so maybe that's where the misinformation came from.
To be clear: Even before the overturn, forced birthers ran this country. When I was a school nurse, I was asked in a district training day what I would tell a pregnant student. I answered like a nurse and said I would give them their three options: Parenting, adoption, or abortion and offer them what support I could for their choice. IMMEDIATELY, I was told by my colleagues that I could never even be heard to ever suggest abortion to a student, as the State of Missouri would go after my license. This was when abortion was (in theory) legal nationwide. This is misogynistic domestic terrorism.
thank you for calling it what it is. these people aren't "pro-life." they don't care about "little babies" or the health & wellbeing of women. they are misogynists who saw the patriarchy starting to slip with the sexual revolution of the 1960s and they panicked, and they will reassert that male dominance by any means necessary.
The fact that the courts are even entertaining the mifipristone case is insane. The FDA did it's job, there's no jurisdictional reason the courts get a say. Especially since it's not just used for abortions, there are other, non-pregnancy related uses for the drug.
You speak the TRUTH!! Completely insane and totally unjustifiable! Instead of delaying their decision on this case, the Supreme Court needs to refuse hearing it. There’s no rationale for a nationwide ban of FDA approved mifepristone, yet Justices Alito, Kavanaugh, Thomas and Coney-Barrett could easily make an illogical argument and ban it anyway. They cannot be trusted to make judicious decisions for the public. They don’t care what the majority of Americans believes, deserves, thinks, needs or wants.
They already think they know better than doctors regarding what medical procedures patients are allowed to have, it’s not a big leap to thinking they know better than the FDA regarding which drugs should be approved for doctors to prescribe. You’d think if they were that keen on practicing medicine they’d have become doctors instead of pursuing careers in the government.
I mean, the case _is_ being pushed by the same people who pretend to believe the morning after pill is an "abortifaescent." What else are they supposed to do when government regulators prevent them from being controlling and cruel to people?
Justice Thomas put in the official record in his opinion that went with Roe that they were coming for Birth control, marriage equality, and the very right to exist. All have cases in the lower courts already. The only thing that can stop it it publishing the #ERAnow
They seem to forget too that the US has an incredibly high mother mortality rate for a first world county. The number of complications that come with pregnancy. To force someone to do that is inhumane and sadistic.
These are probably the same people that saw Mike from Breaking Bad do that sex ed video about how getting your period makes you better at bowling, and said that makes 100% sense.
When I was 19, my water broke at the end of my first trimester. I was told that the fetus' lungs hadn't even formed then and if I were to carry it to term, it would be stillborn, plus I could get a serious infection that could kill me. I was fortunate enough to be able to get an abortion, even though, at that time, I was against abortions. I still ended up with blood poisoning that damaged my right wrist and left foot because the doctor missed some of the tissue. If this were today, I would NOT have been able to abort the fetus and both of us would be dead. These MEN making laws who know nothing about women's health should be ashamed of themselves. They are causing pain and suffering to women and fetuses. Not to mention that once a fetus is carried to term and born, these same politicians don't give a f*ck about the child because they also vote against childcare policies.
Please ignore this question of this is too Personal: I feel like 19 is such a young age to have children. Like almost too early, but it seems normal in the USA. Is there a reason, in you opinion, why that is?
with all do respect less than 1% of all abortions are because of medical reasons. all you did was say that abortion is okay because of your rare anecdotal story. Tell me why abortion is okay in 99% of elective abortions.
@@radschele1815terrible sex ed in school, if there is even any to begin with is a big one. Kids are not properly educated on what sex is and what the consequences can be. Instead kids are scared into not having sex at all, whilst not knowing why or what it means. That doesn't stop them, it only results in them keeping it secret cause they know their parents would get angry. Plus, the whole Christian fundamentalism thing, where marrying young and fast is encouraged and getting pregnant quickly is seen as normal
The worst thing about the abortion laws in Texas was that we were never given the opportunity to vote on it ourselves. Had there been an election where the voters decided, it would still be legal.
Which is complete bull shit, it needs to be put to a state vote, but texas is soo ass backwards the pro birthers wont do it cause they know theyll lose handedly
@@keithkarvelis82 wow talk about a stretch did you pull something? Cause lets unpack that shall we, in 1863 only white land owning men could vote, now in 2023 everyone 18 and older can vote.limited by citizenship, pretty sure if everyone could vote in 1863 including women, black people (who out numbered white people in large areas) slavery would have been made illegal
@@keithkarvelis82 btw the proof of slaves outnumbering white people.is evident with the passing of 3/5ths compromise, and later on texas being the first state to recognize juneteenth as a holiday
To paraphrase Abigail Thorn on the the subject of Children having access to Abortion: “If a child goes to the doctor and says ‘I need an abortion because daddy made me pregnant’ and the doctor says ‘I have to tell your parents’ there is a non-zero chance that child will be murdered.” It is so god damn maddening how dangerous pregnancy is for people and so much of the arguments against abortion rights revolve around pretending it isn’t.
It's also monstrous to have sex with a 12 yr old and getting her pregnant in the first place. I guess accountability doesn't exist any longer, at least for women
@@andethidialbubabibub3261 This does not mean that the people preventing the 12-year-old from getting an abortion are any less of monsters. Your comment reeks of whataboutism.
perhaps a first step would be to ban child marriages all over the country.. cause, well, once married, it's not really forcing them to give birth but rather under the maritial (/religious) contract
Forty years ago I became extremely ill with an ectopic pregnancy. I was in extreme pain and my life was in danger. I went to the ER and had the nearly bursting tube removed. Any man or woman who would prevent such a procedure is a real murderer.
My mom had an ectopic pregnancy after I was born, with twins. I’m so F-ing glad she was able to get it terminated. I can’t imagine my life without her (or my little sister, who was born a few years later, against all odds).
Well, if you lived in Texas, it never would have happened. The president of Texas forced birth said she doesn't believe those happen. Look it up. I'd post the link but TH-cam flagged me for doing it. Citing my sources is spam. Oy veh.....
I literally JUST finished an essay on abortion rights last week for college. I’ve been pro-choice since my parents informed of the concept, but I have to say, it was probably the most depressing essay I’ve ever had to write for a class. Outlawing abortions doesn’t solve the problem, it is the problem. Abortions were actually decreasing for the past few decades, but after Roe v. Wade was overturned they skyrocketed because a lot of women didn’t have any other solution. There’s gonna be an increase in women dying due to unsafe pregnancies and unsafe abortions because now they can’t get the professional help they need. It’s especially bad for poor people and people of color because they now have even less access to safe and professional help than they did before. And even worse, the Republicans who call themselves “pro-life” do everything they can to make people’s lives worse. They don’t care about healthcare, mental illness, homelessness, not even fucking gun control, even after school shootings became one of the leading causes of children’s deaths in this country. If someone’s going to be pro-life, especially if they’re a politician, then they need to fully educate themselves on WHY people get abortions and the consequences of outlawing them because it’s a life or death situation.
Wow! Love that you have a much better understanding of just how complicated this issue is by completing a college assignment. I’m hopeful for the future of our country because young people like you exist.
Thanks for sharing your passion. The sad thing is the pro-life don't actually care about life. So their education on women who need or want an abortion is always "give it up for adoption" or God will see to it when death is right. It's so infuriating and yes the powerlessness creates a sense of depression. Keep your head up.
Someone fully know why someone would get an abortion. They don’t CARE because the point is to CONTROL women’s circumstances by sticking them between a rock and a hard place. It’s a lot easier to pay a woman a lot less than a man makes when she can’t just let her children starve by quitting. It’s a lot easier to give the men the promotion or the higher paying job when she has leave by a certain time every day to pick up children from daycare. That’s why they don’t want to provide subsidies for daycare, btw. Once you realize that making raising children as difficult as humanly possible in order to keep a group bent over a barrel is the point, then you can stop trying to make sense of the inconsistency. Once you understand that the fetus is just a stand-in to achieve their real agenda, the picture becomes a lot more clear.
Same with guns. I can agree to some restrictions, but restrictions should still be kept to a minimum in a free country. So I don't agree with gun bans either. And the same with how drug prohibitionists claim to be about saving lives. I don't see how forcing people in need of something onto the black market saves lives. Prince died because of this. Not to mention the poor manufacturing by those who only care about profit and dirty or mislabeled drugs. Maybe it's better to work with people rather than against them? Especially if its for some sort of pain or medical use. The whole point of drug stores in the beginning was to ensure that what people needed was a quality product, not snake oil, and they were educated about how to use the drug they need along with dosage information. NOT to be gatekeepers, in a "free" country. Drugs don't kill people, misuse and prohibition does.
Seriously feels like a lot of USA is just another third world country, at least where republicans are in charge. Things only seem to be getting worse year by year...
I'm egyptian, abortion is a non-starter here. I got pregnant at 19 and found out about 5 weeks in, went through hell to secure medication for an abortion, and was lucky enough to be in the UK when I took the medications. It was insanely painful, I thought I was dying more than once, and gross things came out of me. But in the end, I went to university the next day, and had the privilege to move on with my life. I cannot image how my life would've looked like if I wasn't so lucky, to find a kind doctor, for supportive friends, and the possibility of leaving the country. Abortions don't stop because they're banned, they just stop becoming safe. Women need control over their bodies and their lives, and it's something I will never understand why it's so difficult. If you don't like it, don't get one. If you're a man, why do you get an opinion on my body, and what I choose to do with it? It should be that simple.
I'm in like... 99% agreement with you. Though I do think that men should be considered as well. NOT in any extend to what happens with the woman (her body, her choice), but with their own responsibility. I know this is an insanely difficult can of worms, as I have no idea how a society would even _attempt_ to stop this from being exploited, but: The current situation is _very_ lopsided when it comes to the power each person in such a situation has over their own future. The woman, if she's not ready to have a child (health-issues, monetary issues, education like it sounded to be the case in your experience, etc), has ways to stop this whole thing from entirely changing her life (again, if abortion is legal, which it should be). However, the man is completely at the woman's mercy. He has no chance (besides a DNA test, but I'm going from a hypothesis where it _is_ his child) to get out of it. If the woman decides _she_ wants a child, then - depending on that particular nation's laws - the man will have to pay most of his expendable income on a child he _might not even have the right to even see once until it is an adult._ His dreams or wishes for the future are utterly irrelevant in the current process. And I get it. This would've been a necessity in days gone past, where women could not (or rather: were not allowed to) support themselves, where women in the workforce or social welfare weren't what they are today. But in the big scheme of equality, we need to talk about _both_ parent's ways to continue their life in the way they want to, and not just one being able to do that for herself and then just exert that choice onto the other. The man shouldn't have a _legal_ opinion on your body. However, he deserves the same rights as you when it comes to deciding his future.
@@MohammadIsmail-sq5jy1st why are assuming the married Status. 2nd my guy, you can say you'll support a child. But you cannot decide of a woman will give her body parts to save another human being. Pregnancy is awful, and you will shut up.
Agreed. As much as I loved RBG, she should have resigned during Obama's tenure so that he could have appointed someone to take her place who would have been on the bench longer. Then we wouldn't be stuck with Amy Coney Barret.
Thats why trump should win, it really doesnt matter who wins it's the same bullshit. Both sides scare you and promise you things then they get to power and have the ability to make some change and they do nothing 😂
The fact that many of the images used in that commercial in Ohio of people "Violently Protesting" for abortions were actually Proudboys, is kind of fitting in a way. They aren't really lying about people wanting to take your rights away, they were just talking about the wrong ones.
@@BlackLivesMatter1414 Right, and the maternal mortality rate for black women hasssssss.... gone.... down since Dobbs????? Oh, wait, no, it went UP. While you're so worried about fetuses (WHO, by the way, do not have the melanin necessary to be considered "black" in any material way), real, fully-grown black women are dying in hospitals because of the fascists that you put in office. But go on, tell me more about how much you care about black people. Tell me about why black women aren't your kinfolk but a fetus that doesn't yet have a brain is. I'll be waiting.
If they can be taken away…. They’re not rights…. Those are privileges….. Like how the people have the right to take away the privileges our government has at the moment.
@@supervillainnova8352 Learning is not a privlidge, its a right. Healthcare is not a privlidge, its a right. Guns are not a right, as it can be taken away, correct?
@@lauraallen661 You can pick one country randomnly and you'll be better than in the usa unless you got very unlucky. The vast majority of countries in the world provide medical health care to their people for example, the vast majority of countries in the world don't have mass shootings..... and so on... But unfortunately pricks like the republicans exist everywhere, the thing they should be minority and not have the power to legislate.
@lauraallen661 I don't know about OP, but I live in The Netherlands. Unfortunately more and more of our politicians seem to copy pages from the American handbook. Populism is on the rise. And some far right parties want to limit abortion now. Not on religious grounds, but because they want more Dutch (read: white) babies born. For the same reason they want to discourage women to work. So please move here. We can use some sane people to counter the nationalist crazies here.
I’m from Ohio and the only ads on TV are anti-abortion ads, it’s ridiculous. So many of them imply (among other things) that if issue one passes people will be able to walk into a clinic and get an abortion at any gestational age - which is certainly not the case. Simply reading a page’s worth of text would clear up any confusion and yet so many people actually believe this shit. It’s honestly terrifying. I am so glad that I am able to vote on this tomorrow after signing the petition months ago but god, I’m also scared of what will happen if it doesn’t pass. Even without a total abortion ban I am still hearing constant stories of how women in this state are suffering because doctors don’t know how they’re allowed to treat them. It’s pathetic that it’s come to this.
My grandmother had one healthy child and then a stillborn. They refused her an abortion and she had to carry the DEAD fetus for nearly a month, developed sepsis and nearly died, which would have deprived the healthy child a mother.
Political campaigns are never meant to help people making informed decisions. They are supposed to gather support for an election which is far more efficiently achieved by providing simple and easy solutions for a given Issue, either percieved or real. Your politicians dont give a rats ass about unborn babies, those dont get to vote after all. What matters is that this topic has proven to rally a lot of attention and that labelling yourself "pro-life" sounds like you are a good person. As long as it works to keep them in office why would they want to change their approach?
Got a moron of a lawmaker in my state said terminating an ectopic pregnancy was murder. When I was 8 or 9 my mom almost died because of one. She didn't tell me till I was 16. I can to this day describe everything from the robe my mom was wearing, the color of the furniture, the tubes running in and out of my mom at the hospital. Some man interfering with a woman and her doctor is a freakn disaster. A lethal one at that.
more people should ask these doctors to define the procedures they're trying to outlaw. if they can define "woman" then they should have no problem defining an ectopic pregnancy and explaining how terminating a pregnancy that is incapable of surviving to term is murder but allowing that pregnancy to kill the woman carrying it isn't.
Personally I would not describe such a politician as a disaster, that would be unfair to those that are just disasters. I would call them for what they are, psychopaths.
My southern niece in law had a terrible problem that her baby died while still unborn. Baby already dead. Mom's life in danger. Emotional grief. On top of this, they had to FLY to a far enough state to empty the rotting necrotic mass in her body. She also lives in fear people she knows might find out she had an even medically needed "abortion" they are good churchgoers. This is not only illogical. It is cruel. It's evil. My poor niece and nephew.
I'm alive today because of safe, legal abortion. I had an ectopic pregnancy that was really well-hidden, so the doctors weren't sure what was going on, but things didn't look right. Because they weren't sure, they decided to perform surgery because it wasn't worth a risk to my life. Once they got a look, they found over 2 liters of internal bleeding in my abdomen. I was dangerously close to bleeding to death and they didn't know it. I felt fine and my vitals were strong. I have great insurance, upper middle class, white, married, was being treated by the chair of the emergency maternal & fetal medicine department at an excellent medical school. You probably couldn't get much better care than I received and had I been sent home to wait and see, then I'd have come back to the hospital in an ambulance at best and in a body bag at worst.
You were lucky. I know someone who was sent home with an ectopic pregnancy and was told her body would absorb it. 2 weeks later she was transported to the hospital dying. They performed the abortion and she can never have kids.she is 25 in Texas.
I’m actually working in Arizona right now canvassing for signatures to put a voter initiative on the Nov. 2024 ballot to ensure abortion access for our women. Wish me luck, some people out here are actually INSANE about this issue. We’re not giving up though. 💪
@@careyculbert5071 Awesome! The office I’m working out of is in Tucson. But our campaign is running offices out of Phoenix, Flagstaff, Prescott and a few other places right now. Later on we’ll be branching out in less populated areas. You’ll find us all over with our clipboards, we’re not going door to door, just canvassing public areas like libraries, gas stations, shopping center, etc. If you happen to be nice to whoever ends up putting the petition in your hands, it really does go a long way. We take a lot of shit out there, people are cruel. Thank you for the support! ❤️ If you want to find a place to sign look up “The Arizona Abortion Access Act.” Cheers!
Has anyone tried filing "practicing medicine without a license" charges against any of these politicians or judges? Like we should probably try it with the insurance companies too
@@chrish2112 Ah, I understand now. You weren't asking for help. You were insulting someone. Well! That makes all the difference! I've learned that those people whose first post in a thread is to insult another poster... those people have nothing of value to add to the conversation.
I'm European. I never cease to be amazed at how medieval the US is, and how much more medieval it gets by the day. There is no other country in the world that self praises being the best in everything, while being the worst in almost everything.
This country (being the US) is still in the petulant teenager phase of national development. As a nation, we simply have not had the same level of horror and devastation that other parts of the developed world have undergone for people to understand that the only time a system remains honest is with rigorous maintenance, review, and adaptation. It simply will not be until we see a catastrophic collapse of the overall system that we will have a genuine chance to make many of the changes that are being heavily advocated for. The unfortunate reality is that increasingly, the US is a backsliding Republic (we're not a democracy, we haven't been since our founding. We're barely a democratic Republic) and the comparisons that have been made to the Roman Republic are increasingly, disturbingly accurate in a deja vú sense. We'll see in 2024 if there is a real chance for the nation to recover and stabilize. I'd like to be optimistic with the drive for term limits on Supreme Court justices, accountability efforts against politicians from all parts of the country, and so on (though to be candid, some States frankly pay more than their share in federal taxes to prop up States that without this parasitic relationship would have been called "failed states" by any other metric... insane how this country takes active efforts to take from those who spread compassion and give to those who exercise control.)
😂 Word. Those of us that left decades ago, looking back, feel like we dodged a bullet. I can't imagine moving back, and I've let my passport expire back in 2008.
A lot of people i meet from Europe really underestimate how much the majority of us suffer over here in the US. Its a great place to be rich, but if you're not, then these are some really hard times.
Just remember, abortions are not restricted to elective abortions. Medically and legally abortions are any terminations of a pregnancy where the fetus couldn't survive. This includes what happens for missed miscarriages, fatal anomalies, and other conditions where there really isn't a choice. These laws actively put people at risk, turning something that was already a nightmare into a potentially deadly one.
@@franjkavthe pro-life movement has exclusively focused on prosecuting doctors not women, the laws banning abortion are to protect women just as much as The unborn.
When I asked my mother what she would do if I was dying from an ectopic pregnancy she assured me she would get me whatever help I needed even if she had to pay for it. So nice to know that she doesn't care about any other women in our state when she votes against our rights. I live in Ohio and we just voted for abortion rights on Friday. I'm getting very familiar with the board of elections building after waiting for 4 hours back in August to vote to protect democracy when they were trying to push minority rule to avoid the abortion amendment. I'm so tired.
"I'm against all abortion - with the usual three exceptions." "Rape, incest and the health of the pregnant person?" "I meant me, my daughter and my mother."
Also, from Ohio and I completely get it. It almost feels like yesterday that I voted on issue one and argued incessantly with my (admittedly older) male coworkers about why I should have more autonomy over my living body than my dead one. It’s like the past several months have been stuck in the same exhausting loop of stupidity and misinformation.
My sister lives in Kansas, and I was SO happy for her when I found out. Give your fellow statesmen (and women!) a round of applause from the rest of the States.
Wherever people have the right to choose directly on that issue they always vote to keep it legal. But if you obscure the issue by choosing between two political parties with varying stances on a slew of issues than maybe the people can lose it that way.
ummm what? Republican constituents are ….wait for it… republicans. Who also are pro life. So they do give a shit, they just don’t care what people like you think
WRONG!! Republicans do give a crap about their ACTUAL constituents. You just assumed it was regular people like you and me. The Republican "constituents" are the filthy rich, big companies, and others in the 1 percent. And buddy, you and I aren't in that exclusive club. 😢
Thankfully, we have a Representative Democracy and not a "Issue of the Moment Democracy Voted by the Current Idiot of the Day". Our founding fathers did this to prevent kneejerk decisions from emotional nutjobs who have no ability to "think" at all.
Read the words of all the Libs here.. this is the ultimate example of how evil this ideology is. The only thing that matters is their OWN feelings, their own comfort, their own gratification. They don’t think they should ever be uncomfortable or face consequences. The abortion lobby represents our most selfish impulses. They don’t even acknowledge the humanity of the child, if it brings any discomfort or inconvenience to the ego of the mother. It all boils down to a poisonous ideology that was designed to destroy the American family. The hierarchy that makes us strong. Free healthcare, free college, free abortion on demand. It all exists to make you dependent on State power, and to appeal to your darkest most selfish nature. To make you believe that you don’t have to take responsibility for anything, and all you need is more State power. And it’ll never be enough. It’ll never satisfy. When was the last time you saw a grateful leftist? Left wing ideology needs a permanent underclass that is taught to always blame everyone but themselves to thrive. It needs continuous chaos.
@@Gillsing The threat to access to legal, safe abortions becomes more and more global. So either you are in a country where those forces start to form already - that would make screaming in a library absolutely appropriate as well. Or you are in one of those few countries where good laws are in place and no one is trying to take women's rights to bodily autonomy away - then I bet that many women in that library would tune in with you out of solidarity and sisterhood to all other women in all those other countries. So yeah, just scream it all out :)!
Now would be the right time to introduce a abortion for fatherhood. By that I mean the right that a man can leave his wife, children or pregnant women without paying alimony. His money his choice.
I had a conversation with an anti-abortion friend, and by the end, her argument was "she should have kept her legs crossed." It always seems to end that way, and never "He should have kept it in his pants."
Look, I’m pro choice, but both of those arguments are wrong. If hers is unfairly putting the responsibility on women, then yours is unfairly putting it on men. The decision to have sex is a decision that is made by both parties, and thus both are responsible for the consequences of that decision.
Here in Canada a doctor, an immigrant concentration camp survivor might I add- just kept non-complying and taking on court battles/jail time to fight for our right to decide. We have him and his wonderful legal team to thank, that and the fact that we had and continue to have a pretty good panel of supreme court judges. Abortion is healthcare!
As a Kansan, it's nice to have one episode of LWT where we're not featured on all the "state where the bad thing is happening" graphics. The response to protect the abortion rights here was inspiring.
I find it amusing that the only time the democrats care about women is when it comes to murdering the unborn. They could care less about the safety in women's sports or such pageantry as woman of the year. I'll admit that there are rare circumstances that are life threatening enough to warrant a procedure such as an abortion but for to long have people been using it as a plan "c".
I took a woman for an abortion because her narcissistic boyfriend had "baby trapped" her - messed with her birth control, then terrorized her with threats of stealing the baby. She knew she could not be tied to this man for 18 years. I never realized how crucial abortion care is in terms of abuse. And how _abusers don't want women to be able to escape a baby trap._ And that's what this is teally about: the ability to abuse women through their fertility. It now makes sense why these men don't care at all about the children. Suffering is the point.
@dundukk9450 that would be an excellent solution! Except for the fact the right leaning faction wants to ban homosexuals from adoption or even being around children. It also ignores that there are already more children without parents than there are would be parents looking to adopt.
@@Chhesterification "“Unwanted” children may be more subject to child abuse and neglect" www.economics.uci.edu/files/docs/faculty_review/bitler-zavodny-aer-pap-2002.pdf
@@Chhesterification "Steven Levitt of the University of Chicago and John Donohue of Yale University revived discussion of this claim with their 2001 paper "The Impact of Legalized Abortion on Crime".[7] Donohue and Levitt point to the fact that males aged 18 to 24 are most likely to commit crimes. Data indicates that crime in the United States started to decline in 1992. Donohue and Levitt suggest that the absence of unwanted children, following legalization in 1973, led to a reduction in crime 18 years later, starting in 1992 and dropping sharply in 1995. These would have been the peak crime-committing years of the unborn children.[8][9] According to Donohue and Levitt, states that had legalized abortion before Roe v. Wade (Alaska, California, Hawaii, New York, Oregon, and Washington), also had earlier reductions in crime. Further, states with a high abortion rate experienced a greater reduction in crime, when corrected for factors like average income.[10] Finally, studies in Canada and Australia claim[clarification needed] to have established a correlation between legalized abortion and overall crime reduction" en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legalized_abortion_and_crime_effect
@@itsthevoicemanpositive correlation means that they go up, so they are saying that in states where there are abortion bans, there are higher infant mortality rates.
Thank you John Oliver for shedding light on the hardships that countless women have faced due to the recent restrictions!!! Thank you for standing up for women’s reproductive rights!!!
As an Ohioan, I'm quite proud of our state absolutely obliterating the special ballot a couple months ago attempting to put an abortion ban into play. I really hope we can pull through for round two here and protect the rights of our people going forward.
@StoryOracle Our state might look kinda red if you look at our past, but as the old folks and old money die out, we've become much more purple in the last decade or so. Just gotta' stay the course and not turn into our parents, and we'll make this place decent.
We went to early vote on Sunday in Ohio and this woman was walking past the line lying about the issue. She kept telling people that if the issue wins children will be able to have abortions without parental consent. That's a lie/misinformation and I didn't have it in me to have a shouting match so I just gave her the finger aggressively and she ran away. First of all, there are absolutely minor medical consent laws in place already which is why there didn't need to be any wording about that in the amendment. I have to wonder, why are they so concerned with both children getting pregnant and (much more terrifying, disturbing, and creepy) with children STAYING pregnant?!?!? WTF Y'ALL!?!?!??
I think minors do need the ability to make this decision without parental consent tbh, so many parents are turbo shite, and will stick their kids with a life altering child to take care of. Same reason we let people 16 and up get vaccinated without parental consent. However there does need to be an eval of some kind to make sure the minor isn't being forced by a different abuser
If your kid doesn't trust you enough to talk to you about the fact that they're pregnant and want to get an abortion, it's because you're a bad parent who has taught your kid that you're not a safe space for difficult and uncomfortable conversations, and you probably need to go to therapy
@@BloodlyshivaSamuel Alito is one of the conservatives in the US supreme court, so by naming it "Samuel Alito's Mom's Abortion Clinic" they suggest that his mom founded it after realizing how terrible it was that she'd had to give birth to him.
They say they are "pro life but in reality they are just pro birth. If they were pro life there would be free prenatal care post-natal care, education and food support, Childhood programs and better schooling. Something that struck me about Denmark was when you move you do not look into what the school district is like because they are all equal.
"Here is the Republican message on everything of importance: 1. They can tell people what to do. 2. You cannot tell them what to do. This often gets mistaken for hypocrisy, there's an additional layer of complexity to this (we will discuss this later in the piece), but this is the basic formula. You've watched the Republican Party champion the idea of 'freedom' while you have also watched the same party openly assault various freedoms, like the freedom to vote, freedom of choice, freedom to marry who you want and so on. If this has been a source of confusion, then your assessments of what Republicans mean by 'freedom' were likely too generous. Here's what Republicans mean: 1. The freedom to tell people what to do. 2. Freedom from being told what to do. When Republicans talk about valuing 'freedom', they're speaking of it in the sense that only people like them should ultimately possess it. So with this in mind, let's examine some of our political issues with an emphasis on who is telling who what to do. And hopefully there will be no confusion about what the Republican Party message is ever again. Let's start with the COVID-19 pandemic. We were told by experts in infectious diseases that to control the spread of the pandemic, we had to socially distance, mask, and get vaccinated. So, in a general sense, we were being told what to do. Guess who had a big problem with that. All Republicans saw were certain people trying to tell them what to do, which was enough of a reason to make it their chief priority to insist that they will not be told what to do. Even though what they were told to do could save lives, including their own. As you can see, this is a very stunning commitment to refusing to be told what to do. So much so that it is not in fact 'pro-life.' But Republicans will nevertheless claim to be the 'pro-life' party. That is because they recognize 'pro-life' can be used to tell people what to do. The reason they say they are 'pro-life' when they are trying to tell pregnant women and other pregnant people what to do with their bodies is not out of genuine concern for human life, but because they recognize that in this position, they can tell pregnant women and other pregnant people what to do with their bodies. That's why when you use that same appeal - 'pro-life' - when you ask Republicans to do something about gun violence in schools, it doesn't work. Because you are now in the position of telling Republicans what to do. That's precisely why they don't want to do anything about it. So gun violence in schools is not a problem, but their children having to wear masks in schools is. Because somebody is telling their children what to do. Dead children don't bother them, but telling their children what to do? Only they should do that. They claim to be for 'small government', but that really means a government that tells them what to do should be as small as possible. But when the Republican Party recognizes it has an opportunity to tell people what to do, the government required for that tends to be large. The reason Republicans are so focused on the border isn't because they genuinely care about border security, it's because they recognize it as the most glaring example of when they can tell other people what to do. This is why it's their favorite issue. 'You want in? Too bad. Get out.' If Republicans could do this in every social space - tell the people who aren't like them 'Too bad, now get the fuck out' - I'm here to assure you that would be something resembling their ideal society. Now, there are economic policies that we've proposed that we can demonstrate would be of obvious benefit to even Republican voters. So how do Republicans leaders kill potential support for these policies? Make the issue about who is telling who what to do. They focus on the fact that Democrats may raise taxes. Even when it's painfully obvious that Democrats aren't going to raise taxes on everyone (or on very few people), what's important here is that Democrats are the people telling certain people what to do. If you want to know why Republicans can easily be talked out of proposals from the Democratic Party that are shown to be of benefit to them, it is precisely because they have to entertain the idea of Democrats telling certain people what to do. What you didn't understand from the very beginning is that Democrats should not ultimately be in the position to tell anyone what to do. Only Republicans should be in the position to tell people what to do. On the issue of climate change, a lot of them don't regard it as a serious issue to the extent that they think it is a hoax. This is because when you tell Republicans to do something for the sake of the planet, you are still ultimately telling them what to do. Furthermore, you are conceiving the planet as a thing that all human beings should have to share. I am here to assure you that the Republican Party's main concern with the planet is to ensure that they don't have to share it. Now here's where things get interesting: when you explain to Republicans you want them to do something and explain it's on the basis of benefitting other people. Now you have really crossed a line. Not only did you tell them what to do, you told them to consider others. The whole point of an arrangement where you can tell people what to do, but you can't be told what to do, is precisely to avoid having to consider others. This is why this is their ideal arrangement: so that they don't have to do that. As you can see, this is a very toxic relationship with the idea of who can tell who what to do. So much so that it seems like the entire point is to conceive of a 'right' kind of people who can tell other people what to do without being told what to do. Yep, that's the point. So let's add one more component to the system for who tells who what to do: 1. There are 'right' human beings and there are 'wrong' ones. 2. The 'right' ones get to tell the 'wrong' ones what to do. 3. The 'wrong' ones do not tell the 'right' ones what to do. As you can see, I've just been talking about white male supremacy and the accompanying caste system structure it enforces all along. And I'm talking about this because the message of the Republican Party is that they quite like it. But I realize that we are operating in an environment where white male supremacy is so entrenched that the press doesn't want to treat the Republican Party's agenda of sorting the 'right' human beings from the 'wrong' ones as maybe presenting a 'messaging problem.' This is because the press has chosen to accommodate the Republican Party in a very specific way: 1. It normalizes the Republican agenda. 2. It normalizes framing the responsibility for stopping that agenda as ultimately being on Democrats. Think about it: white supremacy is not allowed to be viewed as a 'messaging problem.' Even when it's a threat to democracy. Because if it's a 'messaging problem', to Republicans, that sounds like you're telling them that's a problem they have to solve. Anyway, I composed this piece mostly because I realize that the press has a 'messaging problem.' Namely, in the sense that they seem extremely averse to explicitly identifying the message of the Republican Party. It's called white male supremacy. Thanks for reading." -- Nathan Grey.
What gets me, is that these same people who are against abortion and worry about the life of the fetus, will, after the child is born, also be against making sure the child is fed or cared for while the mother has to work.
You can Google the infant mortality rate by state to find a helpful chart by the CDC that shows it year after year. The pandemic made the last couple of years a bit weird, but up until then it may as well have been a chart of political lean as the highest infant mortality rates were in red states. Blue states almost always provide health care for new mothers and babies. Red states couldn't care less whether your newborn can afford health care or not.
that's how you know they don't actually care about the life of the fetus, they care about subjugating & controlling women. they care about ensuring we are "punished" for the sin of having a working uterus. they care about keeping us uneducated, dirt poor, barefoot and pregnant in the kitchen to raise an army of soldiers & cogs in the capitalist machine.
Reminder that they also don't support universal pre-natal care. They don't even care about fetuses. Just control. Just ensuring that any girl or woman who gets pregnant must pay the price for daring to have sex.
Hell a lot of these states are even stripping away child labor laws. Who the heck thought that in 2023 we would be fighting against child labor IN the US
I wish that Oliver had mentioned Elevated Access! It's a group of volunteer private pilots who fly abortion-seekers to places where they can get appointments. It can turn the whole entire experience into a one-day affair.
Obscene that any woman should have to cross borders for a medical procedure. Abortion isn't a walk in the park, no one does it lightly. America hates adult women.
@@BlackLivesMatter1414because it reduces net financial and psychological trauma for both mothers and children. Improving the quality of life for both groups.
As males grow old, they get jealous of sexually active young women. They want some, but no longer can. hence their hatred being left out. Prostitutes cost too much money. poooor dear..
I am a resident of Ohio (moved from Texas last year), and I spent a couple of hours filling out postcards in a campaign to promote Issue 1, the one that would enshrine abortion rights in our constitution, and I also got a bumper sticker that states that reproductive rights are human rights and instructs the reader to vote Yes on Issue 1 tomorrow. I do not know if any of that will help, but I want so badly to do something to help Ohio be better than Texas.
Welcome to Ohio! Yes, this fight for Issue 1 has been long happening, they tried to sabotage us back in August, and they failed. They will fail again. I’ve been out doing my part as well, and sharing my story of unfortunately aborting my own very wanted and expensive (fertility treatments) pregnancy. Personal stories - making the people who get the abortions real to them - I think it helps. My abortion saved my fertility and allowed me to have healthy children. My daughters deserve that same choice.
In the 1980's, my mother became involved with Michigan Right to Life. As they became more aggressive in terms of their desired mandates, her association with them became short-lived. She still thinks abortion shouldn't happen "just because" but she thinks SHE (or anyone else) doesn't have the right to make that decision FOR another woman. Wisdom gained at age 80 and I'm proud of her.
your mother will be relieved to know abortions DON'T happen "just because." every woman has a reason for seeking an abortion, and all of those reasons are valid.
@@Samson16436 They believe there is a cohort of women who use abortion as birth control, like on purpose. They also think that there is a cohort of homeless people who "choose that lifestyle." It doesn't make sense, but they just prefer to believe that anyone who has a difficult life must deserve it.
A woman should have to get a medical degree to make her own decision about her body then? What does an illiterate pregnant woman know? Some don't even know where babies come from.
I really do feel for my family who live in the states, having to deal with... _this_ kind of nonsense. People having their right to bodily autonomy denied, at times even over that of a _corpse._ It's insanity.
Republicans: "We think abortion rights should be decided by the states, not the federal government!" States: *vote to overturn abortion bans* Republicans: "Wait, no!!!"
Republicans: We don't want a national abortion ban, we just want to return it to the states. SCOTUS overturns abortion rights. Republicans: Just kidding, now lets work on a national abortion ban.
Much like LBJ and the Civil Rights Act in 1965, I say to Republicans good fncking Luck winning another election in this country. There are a lot more mothers and daughters nowadays. GET OUT AND VOTE!!
If you´re worried about your child getting an abortion without telling you maybe, just maybe you should think about why they don´t trust you in that regard (and possibly also concering a bunch of other stuff)
Exactly my thought when conservatives say schools must tell parents if the child talks to someone about pronouns or being trans. How bad do you have to fail as a parent if you demand schools narc on your kid. Maybe behave in a way where your child trusts you.
@@BlackLivesMatter1414 I don't think any parent would WANT to hear that their kid is getting an abortion. But if your child is in the unenviable position of needing one, the choice comes down to whether they trust you enough to tell you...or they don't. As a parent, I think most of us would prefer to be in the former category.
It seems like usually the parents that do things that make their kids not trust them are also the ones who will blame this on their kids and accept no responsibility
The counterpoint would be that there are certain life-altering decisions that we generally agree that kids are not fully equipped to make, and therefore require the input and approval of their legal guardians, and that having an abortion should qualify as one of them.
Many colleges in Ohio have had a large number of students registering to vote because of issue one. College of Wooster, where my granddaughter is a Sophomore, have worked to get the students registered and make sure they have transportation. Many will vote for the first time.
That happened in Wisconsin for their Supreme Court vote. the GOP's response was that they should make it as hard as possible for students to vote. Expect the same thing to happen in Ohio if it passes.
We had a great victory in Ohio last night. I'm in the Wooster area myself. It can be tough to maintain hope for change and progress when you're in such a conservative part of the state like we are here.
Sadly, ppl only get involved in the process when something is literally affecting them. Too little, too late on some other issues but better small victories than none.
I knew someone who couldn’t get an abortion, so her abusive partner put on steel toe boots and stomped her to the point of miscarriage. I still think about if she had gone to a clinic, she would have been asked if she felt safe at home. She would have been offered resources if she’d said didn’t. Some light would have been shined on what she was experiencing. Instead she was driven deeper into secrecy with her lunatic of a boyfriend.
Domestic violence isnt an abortion issue. If who ever you knew had a non abusive partner and still could't get an abortion. Then what? They would be sad together and they to go to a diffrent state or find adoptive parents. Stop using other issues usually very important issues that already get over looked to support you weak arguments for Abortion. If you truly belive Abortion rights are so important it should be easy to argue for it with out stealing the mic the power the impact from other issues. Its so damaging and disrespectful.
@@TychoKingdom domestic violence absolutely is a abortion related topic. If someone is with an abusive partner, and they are forced to have a child. That child is most likely going to be abused and traumatized. How can you claim it's not directly tied to child care?
@@TychoKingdom Domestic violence and abortion often intersect. An unwanted pregnancy (or just pregnancy in general) can cause abuse to increase and get more severe. In addition to that, the presence of children can make escaping more difficult and complex, with many mothers being legally and financially tied to their abusers through their children (sometimes through court orders and divorce decrees). Just because the two issues aren't ALWAYS related doesn't mean they don't occasionally experience overlap. It's truly ignorant and dangerous to assume that arguing for abortion rights steals the power and voice from victims of domestic violence. If anything, we should be talking more about this and bringing an awareness to it. I don't know of any abortion bans that take domestic violence into consideration as a possible exception. This places women in those situations at a higher risk for abuse and even life-threatening pregnancy complications for themselves and their babies if their partner attacks them. That's damaging and disrespectful, and outright ignorant.
@@TychoKingdom yeah tell that to the people literally killed because they chose to keep a baby. Now imagine how many more will be killed when they don’t even have the option
I'm an American living in Japan (a place that, if you're familiar with it, is pretty damn conservative). My wife got pregnant here years ago; unfortunately, fetal development stopped before the point of a heartbeat, and she eventually had to just have it removed. Not induced -- it wasn't far enough along -- surgically removed. But even in this country, that was treated quickly and compassionately (they didn't even argue when I brought her wakame soup daily). If we can't do a better job than _Japan_ at treating women like human beings, just... holy shit.
@@snoopstheboss994 I mean, they do have a culture that tells them it's wrong for a woman being sexually assaulted to report it, because it's just inconvenient to everyone else. It's also a social faux pas to help someone who's in trouble, to them.
@bbabbich3467You are getting so defensive. This man is literally not even saying that Japan is a good country regarding women's rights in any other context. We can acknowledge that Japan is a very conservative country AND that they're actually doing better than the US when it comes to abortion.
They say they are "pro life", but whenever people are religiously / ideologically motivated, they care very little about the actual well-being of an actual human being. It just sickens me, that this is even an issue.
20-some years ago, a friend joked about starting a charity called "Aborters Without Borders" to help women in other countries from international waters. Now someone's creating it as a _domestic_ charity.
As an Irish citizen. All this Abortion rights or lack thereof horror stories reminds me of Irish laws, we only recently got Abortion rights. Thousands of stories over the years of women having to travel to England to get one. Do I like Abortion, no. But who does? It is a painful expierience for everyone and a debate on it has divided many. It is a necessary procedure in many cases and just banning it outright doesn't stop it. It just puts the woman at risk aswell But USA hasn't solved its Abortion issues. You just moved it to make it someone else's problem
Noone "likes" abortion. But some need it.(for whatever reason,it's a personal issue). Also,fascism.(the definition of wanting to enforce your beliefs on others)
Ireland is a mess. 70% of men are heavy drinkers. No wonder you'd support abortions. You see, instead of tackling the root of the problem, most countries dont have the balls to say it like it is but instead they play games. Im not trying to be mean here. But sex and alcohol go hand in hand. Maybe women wouldnt get abortions in ireland if they stopped getting drunk and making bad choices. This goes for entire west. Usa is just as bad.
@@BruderAdrianI live in Denmark, we haven't worried about it either for 50 years or so. Coz overall it's going ok. But the American shit show has shined a light on some of the areas we can do better with too. Regarding abortion rights.
2 days later I can say this, we heard you here in Virginia. We won, we took back our House of Delegates and remained in control of our state Senate, not only that but we elected the 1st Trans Virginia state senator, Danica Roem. I have never been more proud of my state, I hope this is indicative of how things will go during the 2024 election.
WAY TO GO, VIRGINIA!! When I saw that Danica Roem had won, I cheered. My youngest kid is trans, and having the representation in politics like that is so important.
I was raised christian myself and became psychologist. I know next to nothing about the medical side of reproduction aside of being a women with a menstruation cycle and educating myself a bit on these issues. However, after understating how impactful is the care for a developing human being both prenataly and post-nataly and how many psychological issues alone can develop due to child birth (post natal depression, post natal psychosis). Just these of the top of my head made me a 100% supporter of abortion rights. Being an unwanted child has severe consenquences to both the mother and the child, and even thou our state has actually quite modern institutions for those children, including baby boxes (places to give unwanted babies to, so they can survive and be taken care of - giving up your parental rights). Having a loving primary care ragardless of age, gender or biological relatedness is the best possible start of live. I am 100% aborting supporter cause I do actually care for the children. The children and their future, the children and whenever they will see the world as a safe place, the children and their mothers. This entire thing is just so heartbreaking. So much trauma fot the mothers and their families. The saddest thing is that this absolutely impacts every person who can get pregnant negatively, even those who actually really want the child. This is just pure evil. Do not give me the crap about saving lives when you are also very pro gun and have somehow a death penalty in 21. century.
Not trying to be offensive, but how tf can you be this uneducated even when you're in the field of psychology? Maybe that's a US or christian thing 😅 Just sounds very weird... but maybe it's because I'm from the other side of the world - because sex education is normal here - and usually Psychologist get some medical education in their study curriculum as well
@@Konayo_the US will show people getting their heads blown off & allow people to carry AR15’s but there’s absolutely NO sex education. Some States will fire Teachers that even say "sex". It’s such a weird thing. I feel like since 2016 I’m in a snow globe & someone just keeps shaking the damn thing. "Thoughts & Prayers y’all"🤦🏼♀️
That is such a wrong premise: psychological issues due to childbirth or being an unwanted child do NOT justify killing anyone. No psychological issue can ever justify taking another life. It is horrible for anyone to decide that the life of a child is not worth living if they are unwanted.
Not a single one of those arguments fails to support the legalization of your already born child. If you're argument works just as well to defend murdering a 1-month-old baby, your argument is murderous and wicked.
Wait so because women might get depressed or have psychosis they should have the right to kill their babies that one of the most idiotic reasons for abortions I ever heard(that saying something because I hear a lot). I agree that being unwanted will have psychological impacts on the child but that doesn't mean that child deserve the death penalty for being unwanted their are plenty of couples who are dying to take in adopted children the problem we have is that we need to fix the adoption agencies and put in incentives for people to adopt. You cant support kids and than be okay with the killing of kids aka abortion. As someone who is pro-gun and death penalty Ill tell you why death penalty - many extremely violent criminals like rapist, pedophiles and murders( you can make an argument that drug dealers and porn producers also fit but that a topic for another day) frankly dont deserve to live and forfeit their right to life when they did violated other people rights.Also, i love how you believe a child predator shouldn't die but an innocent baby should. pro gun - I believe everybody have the right to protect themselves from whatever forces seek to do them harm whether it be criminals, foreign armies or a tyrannical government
Just came here to let John and company know how absolutely delightful it has been watching the world’s reactions to your Bird of the Century campaign all week 😆 Congratulations John!!! 🎉
i still sometimes think of a Carlin line where he was talking about the 'pro-life' weirdos & conservatives/republicans in general: "if you're pre-born, you're fine - if you're pre-school, you're fucked"
For the record, even in states where abortion is legal, women don't have control of their bodies. Women are not allow, by many medical personnel, to use permanent methods of contraception, unless they are married, have 2 kids, and are over 30. Because some person they have never met may want them to have children. Planned Parenthood will sometimes do the procedures, But they have been pushed out of many states. And in other instances, OBGYNs are not available in the county or the state. In Maryland, my home state, medical malpractice rates for OBGYNs in Prince Georges County have resulted in a medical desert. The only place you can get care in that county is at the state hospital.
You’re actually wrong to say “and”. If you’re a woman over 35 you can have your “tubes tied” if you choose. You don’t have to first have children or be married. You just have to be of an age where you’re not going to make an uninformed decision like most 20- and 30-something’s make.
@@precisiongrinder If you're too stupid/reckless to make a conscious decision to have your tubes tied, then you're too fucking stupid and reckless to be a parent at that same age. So, no, either the person is rational about their choices and is therefore responsible enough to be a parent if they SO CHOOSE, OR they are too irrational and ignorant to make an important decision regarding their fertility and so NOT RESPONSIBLE ENOUGH TO BE A PARENT. Choose one.
@@precisiongrinder that often is not the case. Many women who are over 30 or 35 still must jump through hoops in order to become permanently sterilized. Hoops like waiting until they are over 40 or needing a husband/brother/father's permission (yes, this is still a thing in some places) or needing to have already had children. They don't care if you are 20 and have had 2 kids or have PCOS or severe endometriosis, or are physically or financially unable to care for a potential child, they only want you to be able to get pregnant no matter the consequences.
Absolutely. It's not a binary. And their goal is always to give women less and less control over their bodies. Abortion bans of course don't stop here, even in states with abortion bans women still have too much bodily autonomy for these fascists, which is why we're seeing child marriage laws and anti-divorce laws and increasing restrictions on birth control. They'll never be done.
I was molested at 6 and 10. Violently beaten and I lived in rage. I self medicated with meth,a lot of meth while I worked a job. I at 18 was not going to bring a drug addicted baby into a world of rage. It was responsible and well thought out. It never happened again. I got my life together got sober and built a beautiful life and family. I have never regretted leaving that soul in heaven.
You changed your life because you were not forced to give up your life. I wish more people understood the financial and societal outcomes for women, especially low income single women, when forced to take care of a baby. They are forced into poverty which starts the cycle for their kids. I am glad that you made it out safely.
@@traviso7810 The child was going to suffer if born, so I would imagine giving birth would be worse. Not to mention they may not have had a choice in conceiving the child. What's it like living without a soul so you can say such horrid things to people?
I live in Idaho. I also wished John Oliver covered this but states, like Idaho, have closed down their maternal mortality boards so that way they don't have to report maternal deaths which are definitely raising along with domestic issues rising and domestic abuse shootings. Our government will NEVER let us on vote on the issue. Prenatal and obstetrics wards have closed and some permanently! A friend of mine went viral for chronicaling her journey with trying to get a DnC in the state of Idaho and she was close to her deathbed before anyone would help after she had been in and out of the emergency room multiple times. She was told by the Dr., when she finally received help, that she wasn't helped because of the abortion laws. Idaho is really bad.
Yeah, there's an ahole in one of the other comment threads on this video trying to convince me that pregnancy and childbirth isn't REALLY such a big deal, and thus brutally forcing the risks and cost thereof on women isn't REALLY all that bad. Disgusting.
So, I'm french and there's a "context" card beneath the vid linking to the french gov. website on abortion rights in France, informations about the methods, how to get it, when, who to ask and so on... We aren't role models on much but this just feels right. My heart goes to the women whose rights are being trampled right now in the US and beyond ❤
Just as an FYI: the laws that France has about abortions would be considered far-right extremism in the US by the progressives that watch channels like this.
@@far2ez I'm going to guess you don't know anything about French laws. I'm also going to guess you didn't watch the video and don't know anything about the far right extremist laws being enacted now that people are freaking out about. But I'm sure you still voted to enact them
@far2ez You are absolutely wrong but keep spreading misinformation, more restricted than in some states sure but there are differences especially when it comes from risk of life to the woman, medical complications, cases of rape etc. Most abortions aren't late stage unless it is under circumstances that cause risk of life or the baby won't survive the pregnancy or there are severe medical issues, going on and france does absolutely provide those exceptions. Not to mention problems with Healthcare in the us.
Still the most infuriating decision made by our Supreme Court! My body, my health, my LIFE is MY BUSINESS…when will women and their rights stop being marginalized! I have a granddaughter and I am afraid of what she will be up against. It’s not just women’s rights…it’s EVERYONES!! What’s next?? No tubal ligations and no vasectomy’s?? Ahhhh, if it was MEN losing their right to medical privacy, this would play out VERY differently!
Not really. The conservative position is all about making special exceptions for themselves. They're always on about "freedom", but they are the most free people in the world, because not even their word is their bond. Or, in the words of Ethan Grey: "This is a thread on Republican messaging. The press doesn't want to have a direct conversation with you about this. So as a former Republican who is now a consistent Democratic voter, I will. Thread. Here is the Republican messaging on anything of importance: 1. They can tell people what to do. 2. You cannot tell them what to do. This often gets mistaken for hypocrisy, there's an additional layer of complexity to this (later in the thread), but this is the basic formula. You've watched the Republican party champion the idea of 'freedom' while you have also watched the same party assault various freedoms, like the freedom to vote, freedom to choose, freedom to marry who you want and so on. If this has been a source of confusion, then your assessment of what Republicans mean by 'freedom' were likely too generous. Here's what they mean: 1. The freedom to tell people what to do. 2. Freedom from being told what to do. When Republicans talk about valuing 'freedom', they're speaking of it in the sense that only people like them should ultimately possess it. So with this in mind, let's examine some of our political issues with an emphasis on who is telling who what to do. And hopefully there will be no ambiguity about what the Republican Party message is ever again. Let's start with the COVID-19 pandemic. We were told by experts in infectious diseases that to control the spread of the pandemic, we had to socially distance, mask, and get vaccinated. So, in a general sense, we were being told what to do. Guess who had a big problem with that. All Republicans saw were certain people trying to tell them what to do, which was enough to make it their chief priority to insist that they will not be told what to do. Even though what they were told to do could save lives, including their own. As you can see, this is a very stunning committent to refusing to be told what to do. So much so that it is in fact not 'pro-life.' But Republicans will nevertheless claim to be the 'pro-life' party. That is because they recognize 'pro-life' can be used to tell people what to do. The reason they say they are 'pro-life' when they are trying to tell women what to do with their bodies is not out of genuine concern for human life, but because they recognize that in this position, they can tell women what to do with their bodies. That's why when you use the same appeal -- 'pro-life' -- when you ask Republicans to do something about gun violence in schools, it doesn't work. Because you are now in the position of telling Republicans what to do. That's precisely why they don't want to do anything about it. Anyway, gun violence in schools is not a problem, but their children having to weak masks in school is. Because somebody is telling their children what to do. Dead children don't bother them, but telling their children what to do? Only they should do that. They claim to be for 'small government', but that really means a government that tells them what to do should be as small as possible. But when the Republican Party recognizes it has an opportunity to tell people what to do, the government required for that tends to be large. The reason Republicans are so focused on the border isn't because they care about border security, it's because they recognize it as the most glaring example of when they can tell other people what to do. That's why it's their favourite issue. You want in? Too bad. Get out. If Republicans could do this in every social space -- tell the people who aren't like them too bad, get the fuck out -- I'm here to assure you that would be something resembling their ideal society. Now, there are economic policies we've proposed that we can demonstrate would be of obvious benefit to even Republican voters. So how do Republican leaders kill potential support for these policies? Make the issue about who is telling who what to do. They focus on the fact that Democrats may raise taxes. Even when it's painfully obvious that Democrats aren't going to raise taxes on everyone (or on very few people), what's important here is that Democrats are the people telling certain people what to do. If you want to know why Republicans can easily be talked out of proposals from the Democratic Party that are shown to be of benefit to them, it is precisely because they have to entertain the idea of Democrats telling certain people what to do. What you failed to understand from the very beginning is that Democrats should not ultimately be in the position to tell anyone what to do. Only Republicans should be in the position to tell people what to do. On the issue of climate change, a lot of them don't regard it as a serious issue to the extent that they think it's a hoax. This is because when you tell Republicans to do something for the sake of the planet, you are still ultimately telling them what to do. Furthermore, you are conceiving the planet as a thing that all human beings should have to share. I am here to assure you that the GOP's main concern with the planet is to ensure that they don't have to share it. Now here's where things get interesting: when you explain to Republicans you want them to do something and explain it's on the basis of benefitting other people. Now you have really crossed a line. Not only did you tell them what to do, you told them to consider others. The whole point of an arrangement where you can tell people what to do, but you can't be told what to do, is precisely to avoid having to consider others. This is why this is their ideal arrangement: so they don't have to do that. As you can see, this is a very toxic with the idea of who can tell who what to do. So much so that it seems like the entire point is to conceive of a 'right' kind of people who can tell other people what to do without being told what to do. Yup, that's the point. So let's add one more component to the system for who tells who what to do: 1. There are 'right' human beings, and there are 'wrong' ones. 2. The 'right' ones get to tell the 'wrong' ones what to do. 3. The 'wrong' ones do not tell the 'right' ones what to do. As you can see, I've just been talking about white male supremacy and the accompanying caste system structure it enforces all along. And I'm talking about this because the message of the Republican Party is that they quite like it. But I realize that we are operating in an environment where white male supremacy is so entrenched that the press can't even conceive of the Republican Party's agenda of sorting the 'right' human beings from the 'wrong' ones as maybe presenting a 'messaging problem.' This is because the press has chosen to accommodate the Republican Party in a very specific way: 1. It normalizes the Republican agenda. 2. It normalizes framing the responsibility for stopping that agenda as ultimately being on Democrats. Think about it: white supremacy is not allowed to be viewed as a 'messaging problem.' Even when it's a threat to democracy. Because if it's a 'messaging problem', to Republicans, that sounds like you're telling them that's a problem they have to solve. Anyway, I made this thread mostly because I realize that the press has a 'messaging problem.' Namely, in the sense that they seem extremely averse to explicitly identifying the message of the Republican Party. It's called white male supremacy."
Remember, the agreement of Roe v Wade was made on the basis that abortion should be safe, legal, and rare. And I'm pretty sure as time went on the amount of abortions hasn't maintained its rare status.
@@GrahamChapman normal women don't have more 32 chromosomes. Has nothing to do with the womans body, has everything to do with the babies body. Don't feel safe from disease, take precausions and do what you think is best for you. What are you trying to tell republicans that will stop school shootings? "Hey, you shouldn't have automatic weapons cause someone who has no regard for the law also shouldn't have them." Cause the term law abiding mass shooter makes sense. Oh yeah, and Republicans love stopping people at the border, not because there are tons of illegal immigrants crossing everyday, but because Republicans just dislike all immigrants and not just illegal ones. And Republicans love suppressing voters with ID laws because it isn't something that almost every country in Europe has.
@@Levi-gh1sq Not so. The abortion rate has dropped steadily since the 1980s, while the birth rate/total fertility rate declined steadily as well. People got better at preventing unwanted pregnancies; they weren't "choosing life." This is no thanks to the Religious Right, who have stood in the way of the protocols that cause abortion rates to plummet: Subsidizing & encouraging LARCs, along with comprehensive, accurate sex-ed (not absti-nonsense). "Rare" implies that there's something wrong with it, for lack of a better term, although I can understand "rare" in the context of being able to avoid all of that trouble.
The first time I watched Last Week Tonight, I asked myself, “Why do they even bother with the jokes! You’re AMAZING at covering an issue, just lay out the argument straight!” Now, I’m realising that if it weren’t for the satire, the show would be impossible to watch. When the state of affairs is THIS dire, an accurate representation of the situation alone is enough to be deeply disturbing. Can’t exaggerate how much I love this show.
Wealthy Republican women and the wives, daughters, sisters, mistresses, and escorts of wealthy Republican men will always have access to safe abortion procedures. In any state they want. Laws are for little people.
This. Majorly. This is about making life as miserable as possible for everyone except those who will be impacted by it and have the power to get these procedures done on the low.
We are talking about a country that doesn’t even consider maternity leave and even pays women in general less just for being able to get pregnant…. And now you’re forcing them to keep an unwanted child…which may very much kill them…. Like how can a whole damn country not give a single eff about women’s health 😫😫😩😩
@chrish2112 "Women around the world are also more likely than men to work part-time. And part-time work, even for the same kind of job in the same occupation and sector, has a lower hourly wage with fewer social protections and benefits than comparable full-time work. According to the ILO, women account for about 57% of global part-time work, and the earnings gap between comparable full-time and part-time work is in the order of 10%. There is also evidence that motherhood and associated gender differences in household care responsibilities are significant factors behind the gender pay gap. There's evidence of a wage penalty for motherhood: all else being equal, there is a negative relationship between a woman’s wage and the number of children she has. According to OECD data, the motherhood penalty amounts to about a 7% wage reduction per child. There is also some evidence of a fatherhood premium: a positive relationship between a man’s wage and the number of children he has." "Women often choose to move to part-time employment or to step out out of a career promotion pathway in order to have more time for motherhood and childcare when their children are young. If they return to work full-time, they are often forced to accept a lower wage compared to the wage they would have earned had they stayed in their original job."
It is so hard to grasp that it has been over 16 months that the United States proved to the _Entire_ world that both our Judicial Branch and our Health Care system *do not function* properly.
A lady in Texas recently got court approval for an abortion and then the AG said "No you can't" anyway. Just so we're clear that the exceptions are only exceptions as long as nobody tries to use them.
As an Ohioan I was so proud of my elderly conservative grandmother for deciding to vote yes on issue one and for trying to convince her fellow republicans to join her. We don’t always see eye to eye but I wanted to cry when she told me she talked herself into supporting abortion rights.
That's fantastic. Ya know, being surrounded by "pro life" people, I would talk to people I know and I realized- there actually are not ANY purely "pro life" people in the sense that they push for. Because without exception, every single person I talked to, when I would point out various situations to them when an abortion was necessary, they ALWAYS said, "oh well I'm sure the abortion would be allowed in THAT circumstance, obviously!" I wanted to scream, because- NO! No it isn't! That's literally what you are advocating for, to get RID of all those choices so women don't have access to help including in those awful situations you never thought about and probably never even heard of. Being pro-choice doesn't have to mean you are "pro" abortion, and there is a wide spectrum of views amongst those who are pro choice. Being pro choice is as simple as saying, "decisions being made about this are simply none of my or anyone's business, and are too complex (and private) to be legislated."
@@sciencemama6801 you could say the same thing for pro-abortion. Obviously you probably aren't ok with aborting 9 months in the day before the baby is supposed to be born. When you bring up things like medical necessity, r*pe etc. it's like arguing for the totality of murder to be legal because self defense is a valid reason to kill someone. If you want to argue in cases of inc*st or various other things that abortion should be allowed, then you should concede getting an abortion because "my bf got me pregnant 3 months ago but having a kid would ruin my euro-trip plans" is wrong and shouldn't be allowed. If you think that the abortion of convenience is ok then more extreme cases aren't really relevent.
John mentioned legislators pretending that they have more medical experience than doctors. The best example comes from Ohio where legislators tried to make a law demanding that doctors reimplant ectopic pregnancies in the uterus - despite being told by doctors that no such medical technology existed. It was impossible to do with current medical science, but legislators wanted to make it illegal for doctors NOT to do this.
Maybe, and I know it’s a crazy idea, for big legislative changes (like ones that take away certain people’s human rights) state legislators could tell their constituents they’re proposing a new law, solicit feedback from their constituents, maybe even talk to some experts, and then decide whether or not to enact that law.
I think what Mark Sauter was actually saying is that, like most republicans, they hadn't give any meaningful thought to their beliefs because they weren't personally affected or confronted by the consequences of said beliefs. He definitely always knew that it would affect half of his state.
Right. As someone living in/raised in the South, I also often find that conservative lawmakers pay little to no mind to the needs of constituents who didn't vote them in and wouldn't assist in their re-election.
Someone needs to interview the people who are banning abortion and ask them the real question "What do you gain from banning abortion?" Edit: I found out that apparently they think if they banned abortion that more babies will be born and therefore those babies can grow up to work for the rich people and make the money. I wish I was joking.
@@benmohatun Being a human means having control over your body. If you don't have control over that, you're a slave to whoever does have control over your body--the government, a person forcing you to remain pregnant. You're being treated like an animal that gets bred when a person who owns the animal chooses to breed them.
I personally believe that the the right to bodily autonomy should be enshrined in the constitution. You, an individual, have the freedom to have an abortion, to get a tattoo, a piercing, do cosmetic surgery, whatever.
Or refuse any of those, specifically referring to the last one. Intersex children will thank you. And obviously people can also be forced to abort by a someone to have an abortion so they can avoid consequences, or be forced by an abuser to have a tattoo or piercing. So bodily autonomy is indeed key.
That is core to my personal philosophy. I believe in body sovereignty; the concept that each person's body is their sovereign state and they can do with it as they please. Without a right to your own body, you can't have any other rights. Freedom of speech is meaningless if someone else can have your jaw wired shut. The right to bear arms is meaningless if you can be forced to undergo amputations of both hands. The right to privacy is meaningless if your personal medical decisions can be controlled by the state. You see how I listed two things that seem ridiculous but then a third one that's actually happened? Kinda makes you wonder if the first two are actually that ridiculous.
It _is_ enshrined in the Constitution. It's the right to privacy, found in the 9th amendment in combination with many other amendments and laws. You have the freedom to drink alcohol, too, as became clear when it had to be taken away with an amendment. That's because it was granted to you as an implied freedom when states regulated it with a drinking age. That's how the 9th amendment works.
Wow, what a wonderful utopia you're describing here : tattoos, piercings and cosmetic surgeries are more or less a form of mutilation that hinges on your self loathing and insecurities. Funny how you're talking about your bodily autonomy by erasing someone else's.
What pisses me off the most is when people say “what if you mother had an abortion and you would not be here?”. Well, first of all, if I was never born, I would simply not be here; and I would not miss being here, or think about what I am missing. Second of all, my mom DID have an abortion after I was born. It was an ectopic pregnancy (meaning the embryo starts growing in the fallopian tube) with twins, and continuing the pregnancy would have been life-threatening, and the twins would not have survided anyway. So yes, I am IMMENSELY glad that my mom had an abortion, so I have a living mother, and a younger sister who came a few years later, despite the doctors saying mom might not be able to concieve again. ❤
@@TitularHeroine Could also be re-phrased "You're wildly overestimating how great my life is" Basically, what makes the person asking the question think that the person being asked the question actually would choose to still be alive if given the choice. As somebody who has had suicidal thoughts in the past, it is definitely something that has passed through my mind on MANY occasions. Thankfully, I have a mother who loves me and I know she'd be crushed if I took that way out. Also, I am still JUST enough of an optimist to believe that their COULD be something better in the future, and so I might as well tough it out. As an atheist, I don't believe in a Hell or Heaven or an afterlife in general, so while the majority of my life might not have been the most pleasant, it is still worth trying to pull whatever enjoyment out of this life that I can. After all, it is the only one I get, most likely.
Umm your mother DID NOT have an abortion. I’m an operating room nurse it’s an ectopic pregnancy meaning we normally remove the fallopian tube because if the embryo continues to grow the fallopian tube will burst and the patient can bleed to death. There is that.
It pisses me off because it fundamentally proves they have no empathy. The only way you can believe that being alive is a fundamentally good thing is if you lack the ability to understand any human thought or emotion that isn't yours. No, any actual respectable human being recognizes that life as a concept is purely neutral. As is death. Whether they are a good or bad thing will ENTIRELY depend on context.
Thank you. Really appreciate that you made this episode. It’s been an all out assault on reproductive rights for years. We could certainly use more supportive advocacy like this. Thank you again.
For a country founded on the principles of really hating other people telling you what to do, they sure like to tell people, especially women, what they can do to their bodies
To be fair, the people that hate being told what to do often likes telling other people what they can do. Like, isn't telling someone "You can't tell me what to do!" telling someone else what they can do?
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There is a great/sad video out there of a legislator from, I believe, Idaho - who asked the question “can’t we have a woman swallow a camera to film the baby?” He literally did not know that fetuses do not develop in the stomach. And he has more say over the bodies of women in his state than gynecologists in that state.
His mother should have swallowed him
He was just a huge Death Stranding fan.
I wonder which hole he thinks we're born from 😶
The terrible thing is Idaho is now an OBGYN desert. Hospitals have closed Drs are unwilling to practice in these conditions.
Ty. I had forgotten all about that.
I love how companies get years of delays on laws to allow them to 'prepare' but abortion bans get enacted INSTANTLY
That's... a beautiful observation actually.
Well, America does hate its women.
That's because corporations are citizens, thanks to the brain-damaged non-ruling of "Santa Clara vs. Southern Pacific Railroad (1886)" Our society now has two kinds of citizens, the lowly flesh-and-blood peasantry, and the immortal supercitizens called corporations. What a great country.
Yeah, amazing point. They should have to give everyone 2 years to crowdsource the money and take the time to move to a state that doesn't see them as expendable.
As I like to say, we have the best government and legal system money can buy.
It's been said before and I'll repeat it. Banning abortions doesn't stop abortion. It just stops safe, legal ones.
@@danielroscoe5797They have to make up nonsense like that because the real reason they support abortion is that they want women to never be held accountable for their horrific behavior.
Abortion, by definition, is any termination of a pregnancy. Miscarriages are abortions. They will present the exact same way. It's why we already have cases of women being charged with murder for miscarrying. We have cases of women DYING because of miscarriages. And doctors are afraid of assisting in cases that toe the vague lines in certain states. So their argument is correct. It directly means people will be harmed from the lack of legal care. @@danielroscoe5797
Sure, an embryo or fetus should Not be granted greater rights than a living, breathing autonomous human being. Right now, in the US a dead body has more rights than a living, breathing Woman in many states in the USA. But what about the baby? It doesn't have a Right to use my Body if I don't want it to. Just like a person needing bone marrow or an organ transplant(who could Die without it ) doesn't get to just use yours without your permission. People Die every day because they couldn't get a heart, lungs,liver,kidney transplant, etc. If there is a match from someone that has just Died and they are Not an Organ Donor their organs can't be used to save those lives eventhough they are No Longer using them. 😏 How's that, asshat? 🤨
@danielroscoe5797 The argument is that it's not your body, and you don't have the right to restrict what is done with it or if someone can choose to care for it or not.
Abortion is a medical procedure best decided by a doctor and Patient that should not be influenced by religious views as all religions do not think abortion is forbade by scripture. In fact if you read the bible you can find a clear case of abortion being permitted by the clergy Number :20 where it outlines the process @@danielroscoe5797
How about being pregnant in 1958 with twins that expired in the womb and the doctors could not give me a d&c. I carried these dead babies inside of me for 4 extra weeks, taking the chance of septic poisoning. Not only the danger, but having to through the extra time when friends tell you, “ You are six months, you sure aren’t getting very big”, do you tell them, “Oh my baby is dead and I have to wait until they spontaneity abort.” Just imagine the horror of having a decomposing baby inside of you. Sad indeed.😔😢
I can't even imagine. That must have been so devastating. I'm so sorry you had to suffer through that experience and hope that the years have dulled the pain. I hope your life since then has been much kinder. My mom was born around then and we've talked about how it was for her growing up, hearing whispers that such-and-such cousin or older sister or family friend had had to go out of state for an undisclosed medical procedure. Maddening that we seem to keep having to fight for all our old victories again. Wishing you the best, internet stranger 🙂
@@Zibanu Yes, even though I still carry those little girls deep inside my heart,
I also sill carry the sadness over not being able to see them or hold them because the nurse in the emergency room thought it best I not see their decomposing little bodies. She thought it may be too traumatic for me and I’m sure it would have. I appreciate her compassion.
Here's a gently hug -- you shouldn't have had to suffer for someone else's cruel "morals" made up to punish women for having had sex.
Jesus, that must've been awful, I'm so sorry
@@banhammer3904 sorry. You’re wrong on this one. Both babies born and had died in the womb. No one absorbed the other. Get you facts straight.
As someone who was forced to continue their pregnancy as a teenager, it changed the trajectory of my whole life. I do everything I can to provide my child with better opportunities than I had, but I have had to struggle most of my life both financially and with all of the grief that comes with mourning a lost childhood. I'm still struggling over a decade later as an adult, thanks to the current economic and personal mental health struggles. The impact it has on your life never goes away.
Pregnancy certainly is a serious business.
I am so sorry this happened to you. Wishing you a lucky break soon and lots of support.
@@benfaunce7496 yes, so let's not force anyone to go through it, yeah?
Hugs and positive vibes from New Hampshire, remember to be kind to each other and yourself during these trying times.
I'm genuinely sorry you feel this way. At the same time, I applaud your decision to be responsible for your own actions and decided not to make your innocent child pay for it. All I can say about "mourning your lost childhood" is that depending on your social background it's highly unlikely that you would have amounted to anything exceptional, which I really don't mean as an insult. That vast majority of us go about our daily lives and try to live as decently as possible which from what you're saying is pretty much what you're doing already. I'll also add that I admire the likes of you about a billion times more than any egocentric loser who kills their own offspring to "focus on their careers" which means being a drone for someone else's company in 99% of cases. Don't feel sorry for yourself. During your life you will have left a much more enduring and true footprint that will echo through time than any of the rest of those losers.
My wife had an abortion because our baby was diagnosed with a severe skeletal dysplasia on the 21 week ultrasound. She had a severely small rib cage, undeveloped lungs and would have suffocated to death if carried to term. The abortion had to be approved by the hospitals ethics committee. All late abortions are done for dire reasons. We don’t need more laws regulating this.
Yep! 100% of the times that people get late abortions, it's because either it's a medical reason, or they were physically prevented from getting one.
Nobody willingly carries a child they don't want for that long.
Exactly. People forget that human beings with morals and ethics have to perform abortions. Most doctors wouldn't perform an abortion passed 20 weeks unless it was an emergency.
sorry to hear that about your wife and child but 99% of abortions are not because the baby is not healthy but just because they do not want to have a baby and that is a big issue and should be illegal.
@@adamw7411 Why should people be arrested for not wanting a baby?
@@adamw7411 WHY don't these women want to have a baby? Would you be willing to increase everyone's taxes to address the economic issues that drive women to seek abortions?
A baby is a tremendous financial burden for the next 18 years -- the kind of burden that destroys marriages and breaks women raising a child alone. Are you willing to take financial responsibility for the laws you support?
“We are a very safe place for little babies” Saying that in a country with the amount of children living in poverty, going hungry, dealing with school shootings, going into the abysmal foster system is so infuriating! None of these people care about children or anyones life at all just control!
Often more in red states, too.
Wasn't so safe when all that baby formula was unusable. Thanks consolidation, deregulation and defunding the oversight bodies! /s
Notice he said little babies not children seeing as Texas has the highest number of school shootings. Shame on the interviewer for not calling him out more
Yea, like the little babies in Uvalde….
The US is not a safe place for children. You rank number 1 in the world with 288 school shootings in 10 years. Mexico is number 2 : 8 shootings. Afghanistan : 3. And keep in mind that the "pro-life" and the "pro-weapons" are basically the same guys.
If there was ever any thought that this was "for the children" please remember that currently there are two different lawsuits actively going through Texas courts, both brought by different women against the State of Texas. The first of which is close to the story presented here, a mother was told her baby would not make it and her life would be in danger, she couldn't get an abortion and ended up suffering dearly for a couple weeks from it, she's asking for clarification on the law and arguing it's unconstitutional, the State of Texas is saying that that unborn baby that will 100% die is a person and has rights.
The other case is brought by a pregnant female prison guard who was working a shift when she felt something was wrong and asked to be let off early so she could go to the hospital, to which she was told she'd be fired if she did leave - losing medical insurance and her pay right before she was supposed to have a baby - so she stayed, after her shift she went to the hospital and found out her fetus had died. She is now sueing Texas for violating her unborn child's rights, to which the State of Texas is arguing the unborn fetus isn't alive and therefore doesn't have any rights.
The State of Texas is, right now, arguing that an unborn fetus is both alive and has rights so terminating it, even to save the mother's life, is murder, while simultaneously arguing that unborn fetuses are not alive and do not have any rights. They do not care about the Children, they care about control and whatever is convenient for them.
Holy shit, that's some mental gymnastics texas is doing 🤦♂️
Sorry if this is too cynical, but they're playing Schrödinger's Fetus with human lives.
@@evan08rhys09 Doublethink exists.
@@alasdairgodewife8534Shrödingers Foetus is the exact phrase that came to mind when I read this comment. Then I saw your reply and realised I wasn’t alone . Now I’m feeling a queasy mix of relief (that I’m not the only person on earth to have this very specific, awful pairing of words run through their brain) and abject horror (that we live in a world where a term like ‘Shrödingers Foetus’ can accurately describe the state of public health legislation in the United States)
@@alasdairgodewife8534 I had the same thought
The fact that people against abortion are also fully opposed to free child care, raising wages, and providing free heathcare for the already born says it all.
They're hypocrites.
@@scottadkinshill2493 under sexed, under educated, and over opinionated
It’s about control, not compassion.
Yes, it says that they're all for people being more responsible in a society that dumps all of its problems on anything and anyone but themselves.
@@benmohatunWhich is why they obviously support teaching comprehensive sex education in schools. OH WAIT.
This is also a class issue. Rich Republicans can and will continue to get abortions while the poor will struggle mightily to get one. Also as a Kentuckian Beshear has been a damn good Governor and I'll do my part in the election Tuesday.
That's 100% true. A rich teen can "go backpacking" in Uruguay and no one will know. And they'll also get to know Uruguay, which is pretty cool, I guess.
@@VictorVæsconcelos your comment made me bust out laughing but you're correct.
"Poor"? Condoms are basically free and/ cheap. Whats crazy is that we all consider ourselves "adults" but that all goes out the window when it comes to abortions. If you're a woman and youre poor, maybe the last thing you should be doing is drinking and fuxing without a condom. Its incredible how much lack of accou to women have. Unreal.
@bbabbich3467expect record youth voting this cycle
@bbabbich3467 There is also a privilege issue with voting. Not everyone can afford to take a day off work to vote at a poling station. I can walk to mine and vote in about twenty minutes. For many, it takes hours on public transit and hours waiting in lines, assuming they don't close the polls before even getting to vote. Voter suppression is a very real problem and I'm not gonna wag my finger at people who don't do something that's easy for me but difficult for them.
"I don't want my kids to get an abortion without my permission" truly is one of the conservative statements of all time.
yeah, got the same feeling as "it would allow your daughter (over 18) to marriage her boyfriend. even without your permission!"
to these people children are possessions not people.
To you babies are not people. I'd rather be thought of as someone's "procession" then be dead.@@SharienGaming
@@franktank1984after this entire fucking video that’s your response? Lmao
It's really up there with "My children are blameless [in my divorce]" -Steven Crowder
8:33 The same thing happened to my mother. Not only was my brother going to die in a horrific manner but my mom had a high chance of dying herself. My parents went to their priest. He said, “How can I tell two young parents what the right choice is when two little girls could end up motherless?” He made them feel okay about going through with the late term abortion to save the life of my mother and prevent my brother from suffering. My mom got the abortion and went on to have another baby. I shudder to think about what could have happened if they went to any other priest of didn’t even have the choice at all.
Wow...I'm glad the priest gave them the comfort they needed
@@JudgeyJudgeyable - I'd be curious to know what percentage of priests would have given the same advice.
@@Hal_T Probably more then you would think. I find that in most situations people tend to actually want what is best for people especially people they know or are in their community.
I think males should not be allowed to pass laws about women's health.
@Dude_of_the_twel-sevent_order - Thank "God" you have all the answers!
"Allow our children to get abortions without our consent"
Wtf ?
Your underage child is pregnant and you want them to stay pregnant.
That's the nightmare.
What kind of a parent would you be to force you underage child to have a child which would be result of SA (as they are underage), which due to their age would be super dangerous for their bodies? WTF?
@@bazildai believe the answer is a republican
children can't consent to getting a credit card there's no way they can consent to an abortion
Before we start the debate, is it fair to pose the question why your underaged child is getting pregnant?
@@darkerthanblack6413 Why? It doesn't matter. It could be rape and nobody would care. If it is a pregnancy by underaged kids exploring their urges, who cares. You are just shifting the topic and in the end you gonna act like a fetus is a person. It is always the same.
In the states where abortions are banned, the people should DEMAND complete childcare, public education, nutritional assistance etc from the legislature. Since they claim they are the safe havens for the babies, the states then MUST provide so. Call them out for their hypocrisy. It won’t save all mother’s livelihood, but it will help some.
It's the *very least* they could f**king do
That’ll never happen. Makes you wonder if it’s not the republicans who are eating babies, just trying to expand their dinner tables. After all they are the party of projection. Jesus! Vote blue. 💙💙💙
AGREE
Agree
It really gets bizarre when the same people who want to revoke birthright citizenship and deny social services to undocumented immigrants also were the ones who refused abortion access to pregnant women in ICE detention, many of whom were victims of sexual assault during the long journey from their home countries.
Everyone else already weighted their opinion on the topic of abortion. I just want to point out that we really need to restrict political ads for being misleading or just outright lying. Hell, just ban attack ads altogether because they usually don't add anything to the candidates themselves and it's often a vector for misinformation.
Many Americans don't know this but attack ads are actually a very strange and unusual thing in modern democracies. In fact, the US is the only country I can think of where they are legal. Most of my fellow Europeans are shocked when they find out you can legally smear your political opponents in campaign ads in the US. Such practices are strictly banned in Europe. Most European countries don't even allow political ads on TV or radio, regardless of what the ads are like.
This is why we need publicly funded federal elections. Give all candidates the same amount of money and make them all managed it (we'd find out who was a bad money manager), and ban TV and Radio ads, but mandate that the 3 big networks give a small amount of free air time to 1 ad where the candidate highlights their position, and it runs for 4 weeks before the election and that is it. No donations, no Superpacs, just one lump sum of money, make it work.
That's a good point. But also freedom of speech is regulated...for example you can't yell "FIRE" in a movie theater when there is no fire...I'm not a lawyer, but I presume this is because it causes public harm. I think a similar case could be made for attack ads. And if that is the case, then we could certainly strive to make attack ads illegal.@@BlackLivesMatter1414
@@SpaceSnaxxxSummed up quite well. 🍻 Plenty of speech is illegal. Ask John Gotti.
@@SpaceSnaxxx you can do that all you want, its just that if you do, and people are hurt or die in the reaction to you doing git - you have zero defense.
those legislators should be hold accountable for every dying mother whos dead could have been prevented by immediate treatment.
As a pregnant person in Texas me and my husband had to come up with a plan if the worst case would happen. I have another child.We legitimately had to sit down and plan on how we would get across the border if something goes wrong. Something else they don’t talk about is how you are treated over all as a pregnant person in those states matter your voice is completely taken away from you. You are treated as an incubator not a human. It’s awful
I'm sorry.
There is a reason I keep making the comparison to blood donation. It actually saves human lives (not fetuses) and the impact is significantly less than a pregnancy that goes to term properly, let alone complications. Yet you are never going to be forced to donate blood.
@@MijmerMopper in the same vein, no one can force you to be an organ donor, even after death. corpses have more rights than women.
I am so sorry....no one a "free" nation should have to endure this at the hands of their own government.
I hope one day you & your family escape Texas.
@@samwarren2850I understand what you both are saying, and you’re absolutely right, but I’ve encountered forced birthers on social media (one literally just yesterday) wanting to jail parents for not donating blood/organs to their children. So kind of like how people said they’d never overturn Roe, don’t think they wouldn’t try.
I grew up in a catholic high school and their stance on abortion was a bit strange. They'd "support the mother throughout the pregnancy and help welcome the baby into the world", but as soon as the baby is born, both parents are expelled from the school. They were vehemently anti-abortion, but at the same time, they refused to support anyone once they got their child because they feared the stigma of teen pregnancy, despite one predicament being arguably more dangerous and burdening than the other
expelled from school... that's the most effed up thing I ever heard.
Because the Catholic church typically don't like women. There's historical precedent to that.
The Catholic Church is one of the largest pedophilic organizations in the world and should never be trusted on any matters.
Catholicism itself is hypocrisy
“a bit strange” lmfao.
These politicians should be charged with practicing medicine without a license.
💯top-notch comment
Yes!!
That's really clever. If I was a lawyer, I'd try that one.
No the women should be the ones being charged. If they didn’t want a kid they should have kept their legs closed
By the bribed Supreme Court Justices. Sure. Lol.
My child was diagnosed with anencephaly and my wife was going to be forced to carry our child without a brain, which means she couldn’t think hear smell feel or do anything it means to be alive, to term and risk health complications. On top of that if the baby is not still born which can still happen we would’ve been forced to pay for life sustaining treatment and bring the child home and cover life support and at home nursing until the baby passed on it’s own. Even though by definition she was never really alive she never had a brain. The amount of trauma and money and health risks we would’ve had to endure if not for her family being able to pay to get us out of state was insane! We weren’t inducing labor on a live child. She had no brain and 0 chance for survival yet was going to be forced to carry…… so sad and I pray for all these poor women and families.
Bruh what do you mean a child without a brain...
NOTHING in the body lives or grows without the brain.
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I have a friend with a child who has this condition and her child is actually very fulfilled in life. They have many difficulties but this child is still a beautiful happy image of God. Never give up on your children.
@@Heathernd Don't bring God into this.
You guys made the right choice even though I’m sure the whole experience was very stressful. My mom had to make a similar choice. I hope your wife is doing well 💗
This is so insane! hating women at its most cruel.
I’m amazed at the US’s ability to maintain its status as an out of control raging dumpster fire, year after year.
After all this time, I think that is actually the only thing we lead the world in currently. Now that might be a bit patriotic of me, might be a bit too American of me, but I do just feel like we're the champions in that regard.
Better than whatever shithole you don’t have free speech in lmao
@@LevyathynAmerica is indeed leading the world in a lot of metrics. And no it isn't a "bad country" like you think.
@@gyurhanaziz7676"in alot of metrics", You should've said "in alot of inches" lol
@@bl00by_lmao got 'em
John forgot to mention that it's also caused maternity doctors and medical students to leave states, which causes entire maternity wards to shut down. The entire state of Idaho has ZERO maternity wards. Even anti-choice women and their babies are being punished for their cruelty
This American Life did a great series of episodes on this... The last one (the "fallout" episode) was crushing.
This is why legislators need to learn about the actual repercussions of the laws that they enact.
For anyone else who's spidy sense was tingling at this comment. I looked around and it seems like one major hospital stopped doing on care, not all of them. Still an issue, but let's try to avoid hyperbole.
"Bonner General Health in Sandpoint -- 400 miles north of Boise, Idaho and serving about 9,000 people -- said it would nolonger be providing obstetrical care due in part to the state's "legal and political climate,"
@@jecsah Yeah, it was the only Hospital in the COUNTY, so still a big deal, but certainly extreme to claim the whole state is without maternal care. Due to the location of Bonner County it still is closer for many to go to Washington instead, so maybe that's where the misinformation came from.
@@gypsyveganis this on youtube? I'd like to watch it
To be clear: Even before the overturn, forced birthers ran this country. When I was a school nurse, I was asked in a district training day what I would tell a pregnant student. I answered like a nurse and said I would give them their three options: Parenting, adoption, or abortion and offer them what support I could for their choice. IMMEDIATELY, I was told by my colleagues that I could never even be heard to ever suggest abortion to a student, as the State of Missouri would go after my license.
This was when abortion was (in theory) legal nationwide.
This is misogynistic domestic terrorism.
thank you for calling it what it is. these people aren't "pro-life." they don't care about "little babies" or the health & wellbeing of women. they are misogynists who saw the patriarchy starting to slip with the sexual revolution of the 1960s and they panicked, and they will reassert that male dominance by any means necessary.
That's awful, it's a medical decision, and they can go after your license for even talking about it? That's completely and utterly fucked
I wonder why we allegedly fight terrorism overseas. we are ruled by terrorists/republicans.
Yes it is!!!
The fact that the courts are even entertaining the mifipristone case is insane. The FDA did it's job, there's no jurisdictional reason the courts get a say. Especially since it's not just used for abortions, there are other, non-pregnancy related uses for the drug.
You speak the TRUTH!! Completely insane and totally unjustifiable! Instead of delaying their decision on this case, the Supreme Court needs to refuse hearing it. There’s no rationale for a nationwide ban of FDA approved mifepristone, yet Justices Alito, Kavanaugh, Thomas and Coney-Barrett could easily make an illogical argument and ban it anyway. They cannot be trusted to make judicious decisions for the public. They don’t care what the majority of Americans believes, deserves, thinks, needs or wants.
They already think they know better than doctors regarding what medical procedures patients are allowed to have, it’s not a big leap to thinking they know better than the FDA regarding which drugs should be approved for doctors to prescribe. You’d think if they were that keen on practicing medicine they’d have become doctors instead of pursuing careers in the government.
I mean, the case _is_ being pushed by the same people who pretend to believe the morning after pill is an "abortifaescent." What else are they supposed to do when government regulators prevent them from being controlling and cruel to people?
@@anondecepticonespecially since they're ALL lawyers
Justice Thomas put in the official record in his opinion that went with Roe that they were coming for Birth control, marriage equality, and the very right to exist. All have cases in the lower courts already. The only thing that can stop it it publishing the #ERAnow
Lawmakers on this issue seem to be under the impression that pregnancies are super easy and barely an inconvenience.
They seem to forget too that the US has an incredibly high mother mortality rate for a first world county. The number of complications that come with pregnancy. To force someone to do that is inhumane and sadistic.
With absolutely zero risk to life, health, or well-being.
They need to get waaaay off womens' backs regarding abortion.
These are probably the same people that saw Mike from Breaking Bad do that sex ed video about how getting your period makes you better at bowling, and said that makes 100% sense.
Old white men never seem to get pregnant.
When I was 19, my water broke at the end of my first trimester. I was told that the fetus' lungs hadn't even formed then and if I were to carry it to term, it would be stillborn, plus I could get a serious infection that could kill me. I was fortunate enough to be able to get an abortion, even though, at that time, I was against abortions. I still ended up with blood poisoning that damaged my right wrist and left foot because the doctor missed some of the tissue. If this were today, I would NOT have been able to abort the fetus and both of us would be dead. These MEN making laws who know nothing about women's health should be ashamed of themselves. They are causing pain and suffering to women and fetuses. Not to mention that once a fetus is carried to term and born, these same politicians don't give a f*ck about the child because they also vote against childcare policies.
SING IT LOUDER!!! ✊🏽🗳️💙🌊 *I’m sorry this happened to you*
Please ignore this question of this is too Personal:
I feel like 19 is such a young age to have children. Like almost too early, but it seems normal in the USA.
Is there a reason, in you opinion, why that is?
with all do respect less than 1% of all abortions are because of medical reasons. all you did was say that abortion is okay because of your rare anecdotal story. Tell me why abortion is okay in 99% of elective abortions.
Politicians are not doctors and should not be making laws about medical procedures they are not qualified to perform.
@@radschele1815terrible sex ed in school, if there is even any to begin with is a big one. Kids are not properly educated on what sex is and what the consequences can be. Instead kids are scared into not having sex at all, whilst not knowing why or what it means. That doesn't stop them, it only results in them keeping it secret cause they know their parents would get angry.
Plus, the whole Christian fundamentalism thing, where marrying young and fast is encouraged and getting pregnant quickly is seen as normal
The worst thing about the abortion laws in Texas was that we were never given the opportunity to vote on it ourselves. Had there been an election where the voters decided, it would still be legal.
Which is complete bull shit, it needs to be put to a state vote, but texas is soo ass backwards the pro birthers wont do it cause they know theyll lose handedly
If you voted on slavery in 1863 it would've been legal too. It doesn't make it right.
@@keithkarvelis82I know you did not just compare voting on banning abortions to voting on banning slavery
@@keithkarvelis82 wow talk about a stretch did you pull something? Cause lets unpack that shall we, in 1863 only white land owning men could vote, now in 2023 everyone 18 and older can vote.limited by citizenship, pretty sure if everyone could vote in 1863 including women, black people (who out numbered white people in large areas) slavery would have been made illegal
@@keithkarvelis82 btw the proof of slaves outnumbering white people.is evident with the passing of 3/5ths compromise, and later on texas being the first state to recognize juneteenth as a holiday
To paraphrase Abigail Thorn on the the subject of Children having access to Abortion: “If a child goes to the doctor and says ‘I need an abortion because daddy made me pregnant’ and the doctor says ‘I have to tell your parents’ there is a non-zero chance that child will be murdered.”
It is so god damn maddening how dangerous pregnancy is for people and so much of the arguments against abortion rights revolve around pretending it isn’t.
then its raping a child and the doctor is legally required to contact the police so the parents can be locked in prison.
Anyone involved in forcing a 12-year-old to give birth is a monster. Full. Stop.
or extremely delusional.
It's also monstrous to have sex with a 12 yr old and getting her pregnant in the first place. I guess accountability doesn't exist any longer, at least for women
@@andethidialbubabibub3261 I was with you in the first half, but the second sentence doesn't seem to make much sense in context.
@@andethidialbubabibub3261 This does not mean that the people preventing the 12-year-old from getting an abortion are any less of monsters. Your comment reeks of whataboutism.
perhaps a first step would be to ban child marriages all over the country.. cause, well, once married, it's not really forcing them to give birth but rather under the maritial (/religious) contract
Forty years ago I became extremely ill with an ectopic pregnancy. I was in extreme pain and my life was in danger. I went to the ER and had the nearly bursting tube removed. Any man or woman who would prevent such a procedure is a real murderer.
Mine went to 17+ weeks. I had been hemorrhaging slowly for weeks. I really did almost die. I can't believe they want women to die, it's truly evil.
My mom had an ectopic pregnancy after I was born, with twins. I’m so F-ing glad she was able to get it terminated. I can’t imagine my life without her (or my little sister, who was born a few years later, against all odds).
Well, if you lived in Texas, it never would have happened. The president of Texas forced birth said she doesn't believe those happen. Look it up. I'd post the link but TH-cam flagged me for doing it. Citing my sources is spam.
Oy veh.....
Please vote blue across the board and save our reproductive rights.
Preventing the progression of an ectopic pregnancy is not a fucking abortion
I literally JUST finished an essay on abortion rights last week for college. I’ve been pro-choice since my parents informed of the concept, but I have to say, it was probably the most depressing essay I’ve ever had to write for a class. Outlawing abortions doesn’t solve the problem, it is the problem. Abortions were actually decreasing for the past few decades, but after Roe v. Wade was overturned they skyrocketed because a lot of women didn’t have any other solution. There’s gonna be an increase in women dying due to unsafe pregnancies and unsafe abortions because now they can’t get the professional help they need. It’s especially bad for poor people and people of color because they now have even less access to safe and professional help than they did before. And even worse, the Republicans who call themselves “pro-life” do everything they can to make people’s lives worse. They don’t care about healthcare, mental illness, homelessness, not even fucking gun control, even after school shootings became one of the leading causes of children’s deaths in this country. If someone’s going to be pro-life, especially if they’re a politician, then they need to fully educate themselves on WHY people get abortions and the consequences of outlawing them because it’s a life or death situation.
Wow! Love that you have a much better understanding of just how complicated this issue is by completing a college assignment. I’m hopeful for the future of our country because young people like you exist.
Thanks for sharing your passion. The sad thing is the pro-life don't actually care about life. So their education on women who need or want an abortion is always "give it up for adoption" or God will see to it when death is right. It's so infuriating and yes the powerlessness creates a sense of depression. Keep your head up.
Someone fully know why someone would get an abortion. They don’t CARE because the point is to CONTROL women’s circumstances by sticking them between a rock and a hard place.
It’s a lot easier to pay a woman a lot less than a man makes when she can’t just let her children starve by quitting. It’s a lot easier to give the men the promotion or the higher paying job when she has leave by a certain time every day to pick up children from daycare. That’s why they don’t want to provide subsidies for daycare, btw.
Once you realize that making raising children as difficult as humanly possible in order to keep a group bent over a barrel is the point, then you can stop trying to make sense of the inconsistency.
Once you understand that the fetus is just a stand-in to achieve their real agenda, the picture becomes a lot more clear.
Same with guns. I can agree to some restrictions, but restrictions should still be kept to a minimum in a free country. So I don't agree with gun bans either. And the same with how drug prohibitionists claim to be about saving lives. I don't see how forcing people in need of something onto the black market saves lives. Prince died because of this. Not to mention the poor manufacturing by those who only care about profit and dirty or mislabeled drugs. Maybe it's better to work with people rather than against them? Especially if its for some sort of pain or medical use. The whole point of drug stores in the beginning was to ensure that what people needed was a quality product, not snake oil, and they were educated about how to use the drug they need along with dosage information. NOT to be gatekeepers, in a "free" country.
Drugs don't kill people, misuse and prohibition does.
Seriously feels like a lot of USA is just another third world country, at least where republicans are in charge. Things only seem to be getting worse year by year...
I'm egyptian, abortion is a non-starter here. I got pregnant at 19 and found out about 5 weeks in, went through hell to secure medication for an abortion, and was lucky enough to be in the UK when I took the medications. It was insanely painful, I thought I was dying more than once, and gross things came out of me. But in the end, I went to university the next day, and had the privilege to move on with my life. I cannot image how my life would've looked like if I wasn't so lucky, to find a kind doctor, for supportive friends, and the possibility of leaving the country. Abortions don't stop because they're banned, they just stop becoming safe. Women need control over their bodies and their lives, and it's something I will never understand why it's so difficult. If you don't like it, don't get one. If you're a man, why do you get an opinion on my body, and what I choose to do with it? It should be that simple.
Because abortions it's not just about women's,.if I were married i must have an opinion in this decision.
I'm in like... 99% agreement with you.
Though I do think that men should be considered as well. NOT in any extend to what happens with the woman (her body, her choice), but with their own responsibility.
I know this is an insanely difficult can of worms, as I have no idea how a society would even _attempt_ to stop this from being exploited, but:
The current situation is _very_ lopsided when it comes to the power each person in such a situation has over their own future.
The woman, if she's not ready to have a child (health-issues, monetary issues, education like it sounded to be the case in your experience, etc), has ways to stop this whole thing from entirely changing her life (again, if abortion is legal, which it should be).
However, the man is completely at the woman's mercy. He has no chance (besides a DNA test, but I'm going from a hypothesis where it _is_ his child) to get out of it. If the woman decides _she_ wants a child, then - depending on that particular nation's laws - the man will have to pay most of his expendable income on a child he _might not even have the right to even see once until it is an adult._ His dreams or wishes for the future are utterly irrelevant in the current process.
And I get it. This would've been a necessity in days gone past, where women could not (or rather: were not allowed to) support themselves, where women in the workforce or social welfare weren't what they are today.
But in the big scheme of equality, we need to talk about _both_ parent's ways to continue their life in the way they want to, and not just one being able to do that for herself and then just exert that choice onto the other.
The man shouldn't have a _legal_ opinion on your body. However, he deserves the same rights as you when it comes to deciding his future.
@@MohammadIsmail-sq5jy1st why are assuming the married Status.
2nd my guy, you can say you'll support a child. But you cannot decide of a woman will give her body parts to save another human being. Pregnancy is awful, and you will shut up.
The man gets an opinion on the potential life you're ending, not your body.
*gross things came out of me*
Yes, that was your unborn child lol
What pisses me off is that Congress had decades to encode women's rights in federal law but did nothing.
Agreed. As much as I loved RBG, she should have resigned during Obama's tenure so that he could have appointed someone to take her place who would have been on the bench longer. Then we wouldn't be stuck with Amy Coney Barret.
Obama campaign on it to and it still didn't get done..
Then there would be less reason to vote Democrat. It's almost like they never intended to.
Thats why trump should win, it really doesnt matter who wins it's the same bullshit. Both sides scare you and promise you things then they get to power and have the ability to make some change and they do nothing 😂
THIS 👏 they campaign on it + never deliver
The fact that many of the images used in that commercial in Ohio of people "Violently Protesting" for abortions were actually Proudboys, is kind of fitting in a way. They aren't really lying about people wanting to take your rights away, they were just talking about the wrong ones.
@@BlackLivesMatter1414 Right, and the maternal mortality rate for black women hasssssss.... gone.... down since Dobbs?????
Oh, wait, no, it went UP. While you're so worried about fetuses (WHO, by the way, do not have the melanin necessary to be considered "black" in any material way), real, fully-grown black women are dying in hospitals because of the fascists that you put in office. But go on, tell me more about how much you care about black people. Tell me about why black women aren't your kinfolk but a fetus that doesn't yet have a brain is. I'll be waiting.
If they can be taken away…. They’re not rights…. Those are privileges…..
Like how the people have the right to take away the privileges our government has at the moment.
@@supervillainnova8352 Learning is not a privlidge, its a right. Healthcare is not a privlidge, its a right. Guns are not a right, as it can be taken away, correct?
Kudos to John for managing that quip about Bob Murray. Death doesn't stop the mockery, and that will forever be one of his greatest episodes.
Eat Sh*t Bob!
Thank you America for being a negative example for everything related to politics. It helps us to make better decisions for our own countries.
Our chief export is a warning to others
Where do u live?? I might want to relocate. All of this madness is making me sick to my stomach!!
I don't wanna say your welcome, because I wish we were a good example not a bad one. But I get it, take the warning. Don't make our mistakes
@@lauraallen661 You can pick one country randomnly and you'll be better than in the usa unless you got very unlucky. The vast majority of countries in the world provide medical health care to their people for example, the vast majority of countries in the world don't have mass shootings..... and so on... But unfortunately pricks like the republicans exist everywhere, the thing they should be minority and not have the power to legislate.
@lauraallen661 I don't know about OP, but I live in The Netherlands. Unfortunately more and more of our politicians seem to copy pages from the American handbook. Populism is on the rise. And some far right parties want to limit abortion now. Not on religious grounds, but because they want more Dutch (read: white) babies born. For the same reason they want to discourage women to work.
So please move here. We can use some sane people to counter the nationalist crazies here.
I’m from Ohio and the only ads on TV are anti-abortion ads, it’s ridiculous. So many of them imply (among other things) that if issue one passes people will be able to walk into a clinic and get an abortion at any gestational age - which is certainly not the case. Simply reading a page’s worth of text would clear up any confusion and yet so many people actually believe this shit. It’s honestly terrifying. I am so glad that I am able to vote on this tomorrow after signing the petition months ago but god, I’m also scared of what will happen if it doesn’t pass. Even without a total abortion ban I am still hearing constant stories of how women in this state are suffering because doctors don’t know how they’re allowed to treat them. It’s pathetic that it’s come to this.
My grandmother had one healthy child and then a stillborn. They refused her an abortion and she had to carry the DEAD fetus for nearly a month, developed sepsis and nearly died, which would have deprived the healthy child a mother.
Political campaigns are never meant to help people making informed decisions. They are supposed to gather support for an election which is far more efficiently achieved by providing simple and easy solutions for a given Issue, either percieved or real.
Your politicians dont give a rats ass about unborn babies, those dont get to vote after all. What matters is that this topic has proven to rally a lot of attention and that labelling yourself "pro-life" sounds like you are a good person. As long as it works to keep them in office why would they want to change their approach?
Oh there’s so much false info out there. I have seen yes on 1 ads. It depends on the channel you watch. I have my fingers and toes crossed today
Best of luck! I really hope abortion rights become protected in Ohio and eventually in every state again!
LETS GO (common sense) OHIO!!!!!
Got a moron of a lawmaker in my state said terminating an ectopic pregnancy was murder. When I was 8 or 9 my mom almost died because of one. She didn't tell me till I was 16. I can to this day describe everything from the robe my mom was wearing, the color of the furniture, the tubes running in and out of my mom at the hospital. Some man interfering with a woman and her doctor is a freakn disaster. A lethal one at that.
more people should ask these doctors to define the procedures they're trying to outlaw. if they can define "woman" then they should have no problem defining an ectopic pregnancy and explaining how terminating a pregnancy that is incapable of surviving to term is murder but allowing that pregnancy to kill the woman carrying it isn't.
Personally I would not describe such a politician as a disaster, that would be unfair to those that are just disasters. I would call them for what they are, psychopaths.
My southern niece in law had a terrible problem that her baby died while still unborn. Baby already dead. Mom's life in danger. Emotional grief.
On top of this, they had to FLY to a far enough state to empty the rotting necrotic mass in her body. She also lives in fear people she knows might find out she had an even medically needed "abortion" they are good churchgoers.
This is not only illogical. It is cruel. It's evil. My poor niece and nephew.
Evil. Yes.
Definitely therapy & let go of a psychotic/high demand religion that's doing nothing for her mental health.
I'm alive today because of safe, legal abortion. I had an ectopic pregnancy that was really well-hidden, so the doctors weren't sure what was going on, but things didn't look right. Because they weren't sure, they decided to perform surgery because it wasn't worth a risk to my life. Once they got a look, they found over 2 liters of internal bleeding in my abdomen. I was dangerously close to bleeding to death and they didn't know it. I felt fine and my vitals were strong. I have great insurance, upper middle class, white, married, was being treated by the chair of the emergency maternal & fetal medicine department at an excellent medical school. You probably couldn't get much better care than I received and had I been sent home to wait and see, then I'd have come back to the hospital in an ambulance at best and in a body bag at worst.
I'm glad you were able to get that necessary health care and are still here today. Everyone should have Access to all forms of healthcare
You were lucky. I know someone who was sent home with an ectopic pregnancy and was told her body would absorb it. 2 weeks later she was transported to the hospital dying. They performed the abortion and she can never have kids.she is 25 in Texas.
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@@marsbars007fuck Texas..
@@marsbars007😢
I’m actually working in Arizona right now canvassing for signatures to put a voter initiative on the Nov. 2024 ballot to ensure abortion access for our women. Wish me luck, some people out here are actually INSANE about this issue. We’re not giving up though. 💪
A+ you. Good luck and stay safe!
@@rainbowyarn Thank you! 🙏🏼 I will do my best!
In AZ also - thank you, and I'll sign ❤
Luck. Good on. Victory!
@@careyculbert5071 Awesome! The office I’m working out of is in Tucson. But our campaign is running offices out of Phoenix, Flagstaff, Prescott and a few other places right now. Later on we’ll be branching out in less populated areas. You’ll find us all over with our clipboards, we’re not going door to door, just canvassing public areas like libraries, gas stations, shopping center, etc. If you happen to be nice to whoever ends up putting the petition in your hands, it really does go a long way. We take a lot of shit out there, people are cruel. Thank you for the support! ❤️ If you want to find a place to sign look up “The Arizona Abortion Access Act.” Cheers!
Has anyone tried filing "practicing medicine without a license" charges against any of these politicians or judges? Like we should probably try it with the insurance companies too
That would imply that they operate under the same rules and expectations as the rest of us. Reality would suggest otherwise, unfortunately.
That case would be laughed out of court. Read a book for me one time.
@@chrish2112 Why should @rnmorris2012 read a book to you? Can't you read it for yourself?
@@anniejuan1817 Not to me. For me. Like as a favor so I don't have to listen to him saying idiotic nonsense. Seems like you need some help too.
@@chrish2112 Ah, I understand now. You weren't asking for help. You were insulting someone. Well! That makes all the difference!
I've learned that those people whose first post in a thread is to insult another poster... those people have nothing of value to add to the conversation.
I'm European. I never cease to be amazed at how medieval the US is, and how much more medieval it gets by the day. There is no other country in the world that self praises being the best in everything, while being the worst in almost everything.
Please adopt me I too am disgusted and I do deserve a better country
This country (being the US) is still in the petulant teenager phase of national development. As a nation, we simply have not had the same level of horror and devastation that other parts of the developed world have undergone for people to understand that the only time a system remains honest is with rigorous maintenance, review, and adaptation.
It simply will not be until we see a catastrophic collapse of the overall system that we will have a genuine chance to make many of the changes that are being heavily advocated for.
The unfortunate reality is that increasingly, the US is a backsliding Republic (we're not a democracy, we haven't been since our founding. We're barely a democratic Republic) and the comparisons that have been made to the Roman Republic are increasingly, disturbingly accurate in a deja vú sense.
We'll see in 2024 if there is a real chance for the nation to recover and stabilize. I'd like to be optimistic with the drive for term limits on Supreme Court justices, accountability efforts against politicians from all parts of the country, and so on (though to be candid, some States frankly pay more than their share in federal taxes to prop up States that without this parasitic relationship would have been called "failed states" by any other metric... insane how this country takes active efforts to take from those who spread compassion and give to those who exercise control.)
😂 Word. Those of us that left decades ago, looking back, feel like we dodged a bullet. I can't imagine moving back, and I've let my passport expire back in 2008.
A lot of people i meet from Europe really underestimate how much the majority of us suffer over here in the US. Its a great place to be rich, but if you're not, then these are some really hard times.
@@AnotherDMpp
Just remember, abortions are not restricted to elective abortions. Medically and legally abortions are any terminations of a pregnancy where the fetus couldn't survive. This includes what happens for missed miscarriages, fatal anomalies, and other conditions where there really isn't a choice. These laws actively put people at risk, turning something that was already a nightmare into a potentially deadly one.
It’s also putting women in jail
@@franjkavI thought those who help you get an abortion, the medical staff, can go to jail.
@@franjkavthe pro-life movement has exclusively focused on prosecuting doctors not women, the laws banning abortion are to protect women just as much as The unborn.
So much for pro life!
@@TheEverFreeKingdo you even have a uterus??? How Are women safe When they Cant Get surgery to remove the fetus If it is a danger to the woman????
When I asked my mother what she would do if I was dying from an ectopic pregnancy she assured me she would get me whatever help I needed even if she had to pay for it. So nice to know that she doesn't care about any other women in our state when she votes against our rights.
I live in Ohio and we just voted for abortion rights on Friday. I'm getting very familiar with the board of elections building after waiting for 4 hours back in August to vote to protect democracy when they were trying to push minority rule to avoid the abortion amendment. I'm so tired.
your mother would fit right in on the "only moral abortion is my abortion" page.
Great job stay motivated and let’s keep it going
Thank you for doing all you can to help save our democracy ~
"I'm against all abortion - with the usual three exceptions."
"Rape, incest and the health of the pregnant person?"
"I meant me, my daughter and my mother."
Also, from Ohio and I completely get it. It almost feels like yesterday that I voted on issue one and argued incessantly with my (admittedly older) male coworkers about why I should have more autonomy over my living body than my dead one. It’s like the past several months have been stuck in the same exhausting loop of stupidity and misinformation.
Damn straight we voted to keep abortion rights in Kansas. It wasn't even close
So proud of you and im not even an american..Congratulations 🤘 Keep fighting for others please..
Some red states didn't even give voters the choice.
@@SaraGrant-xj4lr Of course they didnt , imagine if the voters had said no to Theocracy? Silly them, they dont know whats best for them
My sister lives in Kansas, and I was SO happy for her when I found out. Give your fellow statesmen (and women!) a round of applause from the rest of the States.
Wherever people have the right to choose directly on that issue they always vote to keep it legal.
But if you obscure the issue by choosing between two political parties with varying stances on a slew of issues than maybe the people can lose it that way.
I just love how Republicans REALLY don't give a crap what their actual constituents actually want
ummm what? Republican constituents are ….wait for it… republicans. Who also are pro life. So they do give a shit, they just don’t care what people like you think
WRONG!! Republicans do give a crap about their ACTUAL constituents. You just assumed it was regular people like you and me. The Republican "constituents" are the filthy rich, big companies, and others in the 1 percent. And buddy, you and I aren't in that exclusive club. 😢
All Republicans Are Rapists
Thankfully, we have a Representative Democracy and not a "Issue of the Moment Democracy Voted by the Current Idiot of the Day". Our founding fathers did this to prevent kneejerk decisions from emotional nutjobs who have no ability to "think" at all.
Read the words of all the Libs here.. this is the ultimate example of how evil this ideology is. The only thing that matters is their OWN feelings, their own comfort, their own gratification. They don’t think they should ever be uncomfortable or face consequences. The abortion lobby represents our most selfish impulses. They don’t even acknowledge the humanity of the child, if it brings any discomfort or inconvenience to the ego of the mother. It all boils down to a poisonous ideology that was designed to destroy the American family. The hierarchy that makes us strong. Free healthcare, free college, free abortion on demand. It all exists to make you dependent on State power, and to appeal to your darkest most selfish nature. To make you believe that you don’t have to take responsibility for anything, and all you need is more State power. And it’ll never be enough. It’ll never satisfy. When was the last time you saw a grateful leftist? Left wing ideology needs a permanent underclass that is taught to always blame everyone but themselves to thrive. It needs continuous chaos.
"There is no inappropriate time to be screaming about this." Thank you John Oliver!
Well, I'm at the library. In another country. But were I a woman in USA I would buy a gun.
@@Gillsing The threat to access to legal, safe abortions becomes more and more global. So either you are in a country where those forces start to form already - that would make screaming in a library absolutely appropriate as well. Or you are in one of those few countries where good laws are in place and no one is trying to take women's rights to bodily autonomy away - then I bet that many women in that library would tune in with you out of solidarity and sisterhood to all other women in all those other countries. So yeah, just scream it all out :)!
Thank you for doing this segment. As someone who could have died while pregnant from pregnancy and/or my fetus died inside me, it means a lot.
I'm happy you're still alive, and I'm sorry you had to go through that trauma, which I can't even imagine. Keep projecting your positive attitude :)
Thank you, that means a lot :)@@SpaceSnaxxx
@@SpaceSnaxxx Oh you’re sweet, thank you :)
Don't try to get prego again
Now would be the right time to introduce a abortion for fatherhood. By that I mean the right that a man can leave his wife, children or pregnant women without paying alimony. His money his choice.
I had a conversation with an anti-abortion friend, and by the end, her argument was "she should have kept her legs crossed." It always seems to end that way, and never "He should have kept it in his pants."
This. It always devolves into the truth: their sense of moral superiority.
As if a child is supposed to be a lesson or a punishment
Look, I’m pro choice, but both of those arguments are wrong. If hers is unfairly putting the responsibility on women, then yours is unfairly putting it on men. The decision to have sex is a decision that is made by both parties, and thus both are responsible for the consequences of that decision.
People who believe sex is *only* for conception need to stop forcing their beliefs on others.
Maybe you haven’t realized this glaring fact of reality but, women fuck who they want, men fuck who they can.
Here in Canada a doctor, an immigrant concentration camp survivor might I add- just kept non-complying and taking on court battles/jail time to fight for our right to decide. We have him and his wonderful legal team to thank, that and the fact that we had and continue to have a pretty good panel of supreme court judges.
Abortion is healthcare!
As a Kansan, it's nice to have one episode of LWT where we're not featured on all the "state where the bad thing is happening" graphics. The response to protect the abortion rights here was inspiring.
Fellow Kansan here, I have never been more proud of my state than when people showed up in droves to protect the right to choose.
As a Texan, still waiting 😣
Honestly happy for you.
-Signed, your sad neighbor, Oklahoma.
I find it amusing that the only time the democrats care about women is when it comes to murdering the unborn. They could care less about the safety in women's sports or such pageantry as woman of the year. I'll admit that there are rare circumstances that are life threatening enough to warrant a procedure such as an abortion but for to long have people been using it as a plan "c".
Proud of you Kansas!!
~ Oklahoma
I took a woman for an abortion because her narcissistic boyfriend had "baby trapped" her - messed with her birth control, then terrorized her with threats of stealing the baby.
She knew she could not be tied to this man for 18 years.
I never realized how crucial abortion care is in terms of abuse.
And how _abusers don't want women to be able to escape a baby trap._
And that's what this is teally about: the ability to abuse women through their fertility. It now makes sense why these men don't care at all about the children.
Suffering is the point.
Thats really scary
*Cruelty is the point
Commenting for the algorithm.
These fucking GOP men are completely ignorant to the repercussions of their votes.
@dundukk9450 that would be an excellent solution! Except for the fact the right leaning faction wants to ban homosexuals from adoption or even being around children. It also ignores that there are already more children without parents than there are would be parents looking to adopt.
As far as keeping "little children" safe, there's a positive correlation between abortion bans and infant mortality rates.
Free access to abortion also lowers the instances of abuse, crime rates drop, and women's net worth is higher.
@@Chhesterification "“Unwanted” children may be more subject to
child abuse and neglect"
www.economics.uci.edu/files/docs/faculty_review/bitler-zavodny-aer-pap-2002.pdf
@@Chhesterification "Steven Levitt of the University of Chicago and John Donohue of Yale University revived discussion of this claim with their 2001 paper "The Impact of Legalized Abortion on Crime".[7] Donohue and Levitt point to the fact that males aged 18 to 24 are most likely to commit crimes. Data indicates that crime in the United States started to decline in 1992. Donohue and Levitt suggest that the absence of unwanted children, following legalization in 1973, led to a reduction in crime 18 years later, starting in 1992 and dropping sharply in 1995. These would have been the peak crime-committing years of the unborn children.[8][9]
According to Donohue and Levitt, states that had legalized abortion before Roe v. Wade (Alaska, California, Hawaii, New York, Oregon, and Washington), also had earlier reductions in crime. Further, states with a high abortion rate experienced a greater reduction in crime, when corrected for factors like average income.[10] Finally, studies in Canada and Australia claim[clarification needed] to have established a correlation between legalized abortion and overall crime reduction"
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legalized_abortion_and_crime_effect
@@Chhesterification- abortion BANS? Nah fam.
@@itsthevoicemanpositive correlation means that they go up, so they are saying that in states where there are abortion bans, there are higher infant mortality rates.
Thank you John Oliver for shedding light on the hardships that countless women have faced due to the recent restrictions!!! Thank you for standing up for women’s reproductive rights!!!
But apparently 64.4 MILLION* other women weren't prevented from receiving their procedures before now.
*Since Roe V Wade, 1973-2020.
Having the vote is not enough.Women must help each other, identify with each other and create a cohesive force for the female opulation of humanity.
As an Ohioan, I'm quite proud of our state absolutely obliterating the special ballot a couple months ago attempting to put an abortion ban into play. I really hope we can pull through for round two here and protect the rights of our people going forward.
Same and same. Don't let us down, fellow Buckeyes. I'm actually afraid to hope at this point in the politics of America and ... Trump country.
Is that how that's spelled? How awkward.
Good job though.
Good luck!
@StoryOracle Our state might look kinda red if you look at our past, but as the old folks and old money die out, we've become much more purple in the last decade or so. Just gotta' stay the course and not turn into our parents, and we'll make this place decent.
@@Tyke-Myson I’m down on the river. It’s awful red here. But we’re hanging on. The thread we’re hanging by was a lot more frayed before August.
We went to early vote on Sunday in Ohio and this woman was walking past the line lying about the issue. She kept telling people that if the issue wins children will be able to have abortions without parental consent. That's a lie/misinformation and I didn't have it in me to have a shouting match so I just gave her the finger aggressively and she ran away. First of all, there are absolutely minor medical consent laws in place already which is why there didn't need to be any wording about that in the amendment. I have to wonder, why are they so concerned with both children getting pregnant and (much more terrifying, disturbing, and creepy) with children STAYING pregnant?!?!? WTF Y'ALL!?!?!??
I think minors do need the ability to make this decision without parental consent tbh, so many parents are turbo shite, and will stick their kids with a life altering child to take care of. Same reason we let people 16 and up get vaccinated without parental consent. However there does need to be an eval of some kind to make sure the minor isn't being forced by a different abuser
They all support child brides…guessing that plays into it.
That's electioneering and is illegal. She was terrified you'd actually had enough and were about to call the election officials or the cops.
If your kid doesn't trust you enough to talk to you about the fact that they're pregnant and want to get an abortion, it's because you're a bad parent who has taught your kid that you're not a safe space for difficult and uncomfortable conversations, and you probably need to go to therapy
You are absolutely correct. And good interpersonal communication within families isn't something that laws can just - Poof! - create.
This!
Hey you worded that so succintly, thank you!
This exactly!
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That Samuel Alito's mom joke made me laugh way harder than it should have
I don't get it.
@@BloodlyshivaSamuel Alito is one of the conservatives in the US supreme court, so by naming it "Samuel Alito's Mom's Abortion Clinic" they suggest that his mom founded it after realizing how terrible it was that she'd had to give birth to him.
They say they are "pro life but in reality they are just pro birth. If they were pro life there would be free prenatal care post-natal care, education and food support, Childhood programs and better schooling. Something that struck me about Denmark was when you move you do not look into what the school district is like because they are all equal.
that's why I always refer to them as "anti-choice"
"Here is the Republican message on everything of importance:
1. They can tell people what to do.
2. You cannot tell them what to do.
This often gets mistaken for hypocrisy, there's an additional layer of complexity to this (we will discuss this later in the piece), but this is the basic formula.
You've watched the Republican Party champion the idea of 'freedom' while you have also watched the same party openly assault various freedoms, like the freedom to vote, freedom of choice, freedom to marry who you want and so on.
If this has been a source of confusion, then your assessments of what Republicans mean by 'freedom' were likely too generous. Here's what Republicans mean:
1. The freedom to tell people what to do.
2. Freedom from being told what to do.
When Republicans talk about valuing 'freedom', they're speaking of it in the sense that only people like them should ultimately possess it.
So with this in mind, let's examine some of our political issues with an emphasis on who is telling who what to do. And hopefully there will be no confusion about what the Republican Party message is ever again.
Let's start with the COVID-19 pandemic. We were told by experts in infectious diseases that to control the spread of the pandemic, we had to socially distance, mask, and get vaccinated. So, in a general sense, we were being told what to do. Guess who had a big problem with that. All Republicans saw were certain people trying to tell them what to do, which was enough of a reason to make it their chief priority to insist that they will not be told what to do. Even though what they were told to do could save lives, including their own.
As you can see, this is a very stunning commitment to refusing to be told what to do. So much so that it is not in fact 'pro-life.' But Republicans will nevertheless claim to be the 'pro-life' party. That is because they recognize 'pro-life' can be used to tell people what to do. The reason they say they are 'pro-life' when they are trying to tell pregnant women and other pregnant people what to do with their bodies is not out of genuine concern for human life, but because they recognize that in this position, they can tell pregnant women and other pregnant people what to do with their bodies.
That's why when you use that same appeal - 'pro-life' - when you ask Republicans to do something about gun violence in schools, it doesn't work. Because you are now in the position of telling Republicans what to do. That's precisely why they don't want to do anything about it. So gun violence in schools is not a problem, but their children having to wear masks in schools is. Because somebody is telling their children what to do. Dead children don't bother them, but telling their children what to do? Only they should do that.
They claim to be for 'small government', but that really means a government that tells them what to do should be as small as possible. But when the Republican Party recognizes it has an opportunity to tell people what to do, the government required for that tends to be large.
The reason Republicans are so focused on the border isn't because they genuinely care about border security, it's because they recognize it as the most glaring example of when they can tell other people what to do. This is why it's their favorite issue.
'You want in? Too bad. Get out.'
If Republicans could do this in every social space - tell the people who aren't like them 'Too bad, now get the fuck out' - I'm here to assure you that would be something resembling their ideal society.
Now, there are economic policies that we've proposed that we can demonstrate would be of obvious benefit to even Republican voters. So how do Republicans leaders kill potential support for these policies? Make the issue about who is telling who what to do. They focus on the fact that Democrats may raise taxes. Even when it's painfully obvious that Democrats aren't going to raise taxes on everyone (or on very few people), what's important here is that Democrats are the people telling certain people what to do. If you want to know why Republicans can easily be talked out of proposals from the Democratic Party that are shown to be of benefit to them, it is precisely because they have to entertain the idea of Democrats telling certain people what to do.
What you didn't understand from the very beginning is that Democrats should not ultimately be in the position to tell anyone what to do. Only Republicans should be in the position to tell people what to do.
On the issue of climate change, a lot of them don't regard it as a serious issue to the extent that they think it is a hoax. This is because when you tell Republicans to do something for the sake of the planet, you are still ultimately telling them what to do. Furthermore, you are conceiving the planet as a thing that all human beings should have to share. I am here to assure you that the Republican Party's main concern with the planet is to ensure that they don't have to share it.
Now here's where things get interesting: when you explain to Republicans you want them to do something and explain it's on the basis of benefitting other people. Now you have really crossed a line. Not only did you tell them what to do, you told them to consider others. The whole point of an arrangement where you can tell people what to do, but you can't be told what to do, is precisely to avoid having to consider others. This is why this is their ideal arrangement: so that they don't have to do that.
As you can see, this is a very toxic relationship with the idea of who can tell who what to do. So much so that it seems like the entire point is to conceive of a 'right' kind of people who can tell other people what to do without being told what to do. Yep, that's the point.
So let's add one more component to the system for who tells who what to do:
1. There are 'right' human beings and there are 'wrong' ones.
2. The 'right' ones get to tell the 'wrong' ones what to do.
3. The 'wrong' ones do not tell the 'right' ones what to do.
As you can see, I've just been talking about white male supremacy and the accompanying caste system structure it enforces all along. And I'm talking about this because the message of the Republican Party is that they quite like it. But I realize that we are operating in an environment where white male supremacy is so entrenched that the press doesn't want to treat the Republican Party's agenda of sorting the 'right' human beings from the 'wrong' ones as maybe presenting a 'messaging problem.'
This is because the press has chosen to accommodate the Republican Party in a very specific way:
1. It normalizes the Republican agenda.
2. It normalizes framing the responsibility for stopping that agenda as ultimately being on Democrats.
Think about it: white supremacy is not allowed to be viewed as a 'messaging problem.' Even when it's a threat to democracy. Because if it's a 'messaging problem', to Republicans, that sounds like you're telling them that's a problem they have to solve.
Anyway, I composed this piece mostly because I realize that the press has a 'messaging problem.' Namely, in the sense that they seem extremely averse to explicitly identifying the message of the Republican Party. It's called white male supremacy. Thanks for reading."
-- Nathan Grey.
What gets me, is that these same people who are against abortion and worry about the life of the fetus, will, after the child is born, also be against making sure the child is fed or cared for while the mother has to work.
You can Google the infant mortality rate by state to find a helpful chart by the CDC that shows it year after year. The pandemic made the last couple of years a bit weird, but up until then it may as well have been a chart of political lean as the highest infant mortality rates were in red states. Blue states almost always provide health care for new mothers and babies. Red states couldn't care less whether your newborn can afford health care or not.
that's how you know they don't actually care about the life of the fetus, they care about subjugating & controlling women. they care about ensuring we are "punished" for the sin of having a working uterus. they care about keeping us uneducated, dirt poor, barefoot and pregnant in the kitchen to raise an army of soldiers & cogs in the capitalist machine.
Reminder that they also don't support universal pre-natal care. They don't even care about fetuses. Just control. Just ensuring that any girl or woman who gets pregnant must pay the price for daring to have sex.
Conservatives only care about control. They hate people.
Hell a lot of these states are even stripping away child labor laws. Who the heck thought that in 2023 we would be fighting against child labor IN the US
I wish that Oliver had mentioned Elevated Access! It's a group of volunteer private pilots who fly abortion-seekers to places where they can get appointments. It can turn the whole entire experience into a one-day affair.
Obscene that any woman should have to cross borders for a medical procedure. Abortion isn't a walk in the park, no one does it lightly.
America hates adult women.
How have I never heard of this? That's amazing!
Oh my god that’s so incredible, people can be so good 😭
Some states making anyone “helping” women leave the state a crime. Really can’t let your property wander off I guess.
Although that's very nice, it's still extremely sad that a country claiming to be "the greatest nation on earth" needs a group like this.
I can't believe that in 2023 we have such sadistic laws being adopted.
not voting for Hillary has everything to do with why. Hillary = No trump. no trump = no reactionary fascist supreme court.
@@BlackLivesMatter1414because it reduces net financial and psychological trauma for both mothers and children. Improving the quality of life for both groups.
As males grow old, they get jealous of sexually active young women. They want some, but no longer can. hence their hatred being left out. Prostitutes cost too much money. poooor dear..
I blame religions for the sadism. Looking at the dead body on dead wood as a psychic boogieman created a jaded attitude towards protecting women.
I am a resident of Ohio (moved from Texas last year), and I spent a couple of hours filling out postcards in a campaign to promote Issue 1, the one that would enshrine abortion rights in our constitution, and I also got a bumper sticker that states that reproductive rights are human rights and instructs the reader to vote Yes on Issue 1 tomorrow. I do not know if any of that will help, but I want so badly to do something to help Ohio be better than Texas.
Well more than most do. Can't say it actually helps or not, but the effort is appreciated anyways.
It's something! : )
Thank you!!
As a lifelong Ohioan, welcome! We're so happy to have you and thank you for your efforts ❤
Welcome to Ohio! Yes, this fight for Issue 1 has been long happening, they tried to sabotage us back in August, and they failed.
They will fail again. I’ve been out doing my part as well, and sharing my story of unfortunately aborting my own very wanted and expensive (fertility treatments) pregnancy. Personal stories - making the people who get the abortions real to them - I think it helps.
My abortion saved my fertility and allowed me to have healthy children. My daughters deserve that same choice.
In the 1980's, my mother became involved with Michigan Right to Life. As they became more aggressive in terms of their desired mandates, her association with them became short-lived. She still thinks abortion shouldn't happen "just because" but she thinks SHE (or anyone else) doesn't have the right to make that decision FOR another woman. Wisdom gained at age 80 and I'm proud of her.
your mother will be relieved to know abortions DON'T happen "just because." every woman has a reason for seeking an abortion, and all of those reasons are valid.
Go mom! This is not a jab at her but im always so annoyed with words like that, because no one has an abortion "just because" 🙄
@@Samson16436 They believe there is a cohort of women who use abortion as birth control, like on purpose. They also think that there is a cohort of homeless people who "choose that lifestyle." It doesn't make sense, but they just prefer to believe that anyone who has a difficult life must deserve it.
Doctors should be allowed ask legislators questions on medical tests to see if they are qualified to make decisions on our bodies and our healthcare.
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Murder is healthcare ? 99% of abortions happen because the mom is just inconvenienced by a baby
This should be a basic requirement baked into the Congressional Protocols.
A woman should have to get a medical degree to make her own decision about her body then? What does an illiterate pregnant woman know? Some don't even know where babies come from.
Makes perfect sense to me
I really do feel for my family who live in the states, having to deal with... _this_ kind of nonsense. People having their right to bodily autonomy denied, at times even over that of a _corpse._ It's insanity.
Hating women and mothers costs lives.
Nonsense kills women.
Republicans: "We think abortion rights should be decided by the states, not the federal government!"
States: *vote to overturn abortion bans*
Republicans: "Wait, no!!!"
Then we’ll go to scotus and have them reverse it. We don’t care how it gets to the point we want
See, you're planning to vote. They're planning to stop you from voting.
Republicans: We don't want a national abortion ban, we just want to return it to the states.
SCOTUS overturns abortion rights.
Republicans: Just kidding, now lets work on a national abortion ban.
Much like LBJ and the Civil Rights Act in 1965, I say to Republicans good fncking Luck winning another election in this country. There are a lot more mothers and daughters nowadays. GET OUT AND VOTE!!
@@JTwelks32Did you even watch the video, or do you just prowl around abortion related comment sections to spew ignorance?
If you´re worried about your child getting an abortion without telling you maybe, just maybe you should think about why they don´t trust you in that regard (and possibly also concering a bunch of other stuff)
That would require a capacity for self-reflection. Most conservatives don't have it.
Exactly my thought when conservatives say schools must tell parents if the child talks to someone about pronouns or being trans.
How bad do you have to fail as a parent if you demand schools narc on your kid. Maybe behave in a way where your child trusts you.
@@BlackLivesMatter1414 I don't think any parent would WANT to hear that their kid is getting an abortion. But if your child is in the unenviable position of needing one, the choice comes down to whether they trust you enough to tell you...or they don't. As a parent, I think most of us would prefer to be in the former category.
It seems like usually the parents that do things that make their kids not trust them are also the ones who will blame this on their kids and accept no responsibility
The counterpoint would be that there are certain life-altering decisions that we generally agree that kids are not fully equipped to make, and therefore require the input and approval of their legal guardians, and that having an abortion should qualify as one of them.
Many colleges in Ohio have had a large number of students registering to vote because of issue one. College of Wooster, where my granddaughter is a Sophomore, have worked to get the students registered and make sure they have transportation. Many will vote for the first time.
That happened in Wisconsin for their Supreme Court vote. the GOP's response was that they should make it as hard as possible for students to vote. Expect the same thing to happen in Ohio if it passes.
Thank you for putting in the effort needed to defend from these insane people.
We had a great victory in Ohio last night. I'm in the Wooster area myself. It can be tough to maintain hope for change and progress when you're in such a conservative part of the state like we are here.
Sadly, ppl only get involved in the process when something is literally affecting them. Too little, too late on some other issues but better small victories than none.
This is everything. Validating. I cried. It’s infuriating and terrifying how silenced I have felt in the past several years.
I knew someone who couldn’t get an abortion, so her abusive partner put on steel toe boots and stomped her to the point of miscarriage. I still think about if she had gone to a clinic, she would have been asked if she felt safe at home. She would have been offered resources if she’d said didn’t. Some light would have been shined on what she was experiencing. Instead she was driven deeper into secrecy with her lunatic of a boyfriend.
Poor woman. People who are against abortions are disgusting. I hope she's safe now
Domestic violence isnt an abortion issue. If who ever you knew had a non abusive partner and still could't get an abortion. Then what? They would be sad together and they to go to a diffrent state or find adoptive parents.
Stop using other issues usually very important issues that already get over looked to support you weak arguments for Abortion. If you truly belive Abortion rights are so important it should be easy to argue for it with out stealing the mic the power the impact from other issues. Its so damaging and disrespectful.
@@TychoKingdom domestic violence absolutely is a abortion related topic. If someone is with an abusive partner, and they are forced to have a child. That child is most likely going to be abused and traumatized. How can you claim it's not directly tied to child care?
@@TychoKingdom Domestic violence and abortion often intersect. An unwanted pregnancy (or just pregnancy in general) can cause abuse to increase and get more severe. In addition to that, the presence of children can make escaping more difficult and complex, with many mothers being legally and financially tied to their abusers through their children (sometimes through court orders and divorce decrees). Just because the two issues aren't ALWAYS related doesn't mean they don't occasionally experience overlap. It's truly ignorant and dangerous to assume that arguing for abortion rights steals the power and voice from victims of domestic violence. If anything, we should be talking more about this and bringing an awareness to it. I don't know of any abortion bans that take domestic violence into consideration as a possible exception. This places women in those situations at a higher risk for abuse and even life-threatening pregnancy complications for themselves and their babies if their partner attacks them. That's damaging and disrespectful, and outright ignorant.
@@TychoKingdom yeah tell that to the people literally killed because they chose to keep a baby. Now imagine how many more will be killed when they don’t even have the option
I'm an American living in Japan (a place that, if you're familiar with it, is pretty damn conservative). My wife got pregnant here years ago; unfortunately, fetal development stopped before the point of a heartbeat, and she eventually had to just have it removed. Not induced -- it wasn't far enough along -- surgically removed. But even in this country, that was treated quickly and compassionately (they didn't even argue when I brought her wakame soup daily). If we can't do a better job than _Japan_ at treating women like human beings, just... holy shit.
Seems like you could have made this point without shitting on another country, I dunno
Japan isn't that "conservative". Alot of women cheat and also they dont consider their men sleeping with a prostitute as cheating.
@bbabbich3467 In Japan they at least do not actively murder pregnant women....
@@snoopstheboss994 I mean, they do have a culture that tells them it's wrong for a woman being sexually assaulted to report it, because it's just inconvenient to everyone else. It's also a social faux pas to help someone who's in trouble, to them.
@bbabbich3467You are getting so defensive. This man is literally not even saying that Japan is a good country regarding women's rights in any other context.
We can acknowledge that Japan is a very conservative country AND that they're actually doing better than the US when it comes to abortion.
They say they are "pro life", but whenever people are religiously / ideologically motivated, they care very little about the actual well-being of an actual human being. It just sickens me, that this is even an issue.
Exactly!
They're not pro-life they're anti-human. They just want to cause the largest amount of suffering possible.
God loves you.
Yeah the 'pro life' is just BS. They put people in danger and worsen their lifes. It's all about control and 15th century religious insanity.
@@jomama3849
Which god?
20-some years ago, a friend joked about starting a charity called "Aborters Without Borders" to help women in other countries from international waters. Now someone's creating it as a _domestic_ charity.
As an Irish citizen.
All this Abortion rights or lack thereof horror stories reminds me of Irish laws, we only recently got Abortion rights.
Thousands of stories over the years of women having to travel to England to get one.
Do I like Abortion, no.
But who does?
It is a painful expierience for everyone and a debate on it has divided many. It is a necessary procedure in many cases and just banning it outright doesn't stop it. It just puts the woman at risk aswell
But USA hasn't solved its Abortion issues. You just moved it to make it someone else's problem
Savita Halappanavar...
Noone "likes" abortion.
But some need it.(for whatever reason,it's a personal issue).
Also,fascism.(the definition of wanting to enforce your beliefs on others)
Ireland is a mess. 70% of men are heavy drinkers. No wonder you'd support abortions. You see, instead of tackling the root of the problem, most countries dont have the balls to say it like it is but instead they play games. Im not trying to be mean here. But sex and alcohol go hand in hand. Maybe women wouldnt get abortions in ireland if they stopped getting drunk and making bad choices. This goes for entire west. Usa is just as bad.
It's a hit or miss. I live in California so we don't really worry about that stuff here. Thankfully
@@BruderAdrianI live in Denmark, we haven't worried about it either for 50 years or so.
Coz overall it's going ok.
But the American shit show has shined a light on some of the areas we can do better with too. Regarding abortion rights.
2 days later I can say this, we heard you here in Virginia. We won, we took back our House of Delegates and remained in control of our state Senate, not only that but we elected the 1st Trans Virginia state senator, Danica Roem. I have never been more proud of my state, I hope this is indicative of how things will go during the 2024 election.
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Not a VA resident but I’ve heard her name before. Was she a state rep before then? And now has a state senate seat?
@@voxburyYes in 2017 she was elected to our House of Delegates, she was the first openly transgender person in a state legislature in US history.
WAY TO GO, VIRGINIA!! When I saw that Danica Roem had won, I cheered. My youngest kid is trans, and having the representation in politics like that is so important.
Holy shit, that's huge news
I was raised christian myself and became psychologist. I know next to nothing about the medical side of reproduction aside of being a women with a menstruation cycle and educating myself a bit on these issues. However, after understating how impactful is the care for a developing human being both prenataly and post-nataly and how many psychological issues alone can develop due to child birth (post natal depression, post natal psychosis). Just these of the top of my head made me a 100% supporter of abortion rights. Being an unwanted child has severe consenquences to both the mother and the child, and even thou our state has actually quite modern institutions for those children, including baby boxes (places to give unwanted babies to, so they can survive and be taken care of - giving up your parental rights). Having a loving primary care ragardless of age, gender or biological relatedness is the best possible start of live. I am 100% aborting supporter cause I do actually care for the children. The children and their future, the children and whenever they will see the world as a safe place, the children and their mothers. This entire thing is just so heartbreaking. So much trauma fot the mothers and their families. The saddest thing is that this absolutely impacts every person who can get pregnant negatively, even those who actually really want the child. This is just pure evil. Do not give me the crap about saving lives when you are also very pro gun and have somehow a death penalty in 21. century.
Not trying to be offensive, but how tf can you be this uneducated even when you're in the field of psychology?
Maybe that's a US or christian thing 😅
Just sounds very weird... but maybe it's because I'm from the other side of the world - because sex education is normal here - and usually Psychologist get some medical education in their study curriculum as well
@@Konayo_the US will show people getting their heads blown off & allow people to carry AR15’s but there’s absolutely NO sex education. Some States will fire Teachers that even say "sex". It’s such a weird thing. I feel like since 2016 I’m in a snow globe & someone just keeps shaking the damn thing. "Thoughts & Prayers y’all"🤦🏼♀️
That is such a wrong premise: psychological issues due to childbirth or being an unwanted child do NOT justify killing anyone. No psychological issue can ever justify taking another life. It is horrible for anyone to decide that the life of a child is not worth living if they are unwanted.
Not a single one of those arguments fails to support the legalization of your already born child.
If you're argument works just as well to defend murdering a 1-month-old baby, your argument is murderous and wicked.
Wait so because women might get depressed or have psychosis they should have the right to kill their babies that one of the most idiotic reasons for abortions I ever heard(that saying something because I hear a lot). I agree that being unwanted will have psychological impacts on the child but that doesn't mean that child deserve the death penalty for being unwanted their are plenty of couples who are dying to take in adopted children the problem we have is that we need to fix the adoption agencies and put in incentives for people to adopt. You cant support kids and than be okay with the killing of kids aka abortion.
As someone who is pro-gun and death penalty Ill tell you why
death penalty - many extremely violent criminals like rapist, pedophiles and murders( you can make an argument that drug dealers and porn producers also fit but that a topic for another day) frankly dont deserve to live and forfeit their right to life when they did violated other people rights.Also, i love how you believe a child predator shouldn't die but an innocent baby should.
pro gun - I believe everybody have the right to protect themselves from whatever forces seek to do them harm whether it be criminals, foreign armies or a tyrannical government
Just came here to let John and company know how absolutely delightful it has been watching the world’s reactions to your Bird of the Century campaign all week 😆 Congratulations John!!! 🎉
i still sometimes think of a Carlin line where he was talking about the 'pro-life' weirdos & conservatives/republicans in general: "if you're pre-born, you're fine - if you're pre-school, you're fucked"
Same. I also love his "conservatives want live babies so they can raise them to be dead soldiers" line.
Literally, when the friends of Epstein get their dreams come true
What a genius George was.
as someone who pro-life, I'm fine with universal pre school though it is gonna cost money.
For the record, even in states where abortion is legal, women don't have control of their bodies. Women are not allow, by many medical personnel, to use permanent methods of contraception, unless they are married, have 2 kids, and are over 30. Because some person they have never met may want them to have children.
Planned Parenthood will sometimes do the procedures, But they have been pushed out of many states. And in other instances, OBGYNs are not available in the county or the state. In Maryland, my home state, medical malpractice rates for OBGYNs in Prince Georges County have resulted in a medical desert. The only place you can get care in that county is at the state hospital.
You’re actually wrong to say “and”. If you’re a woman over 35 you can have your “tubes tied” if you choose. You don’t have to first have children or be married. You just have to be of an age where you’re not going to make an uninformed decision like most 20- and 30-something’s make.
@@precisiongrinder If you're too stupid/reckless to make a conscious decision to have your tubes tied, then you're too fucking stupid and reckless to be a parent at that same age. So, no, either the person is rational about their choices and is therefore responsible enough to be a parent if they SO CHOOSE, OR they are too irrational and ignorant to make an important decision regarding their fertility and so NOT RESPONSIBLE ENOUGH TO BE A PARENT.
Choose one.
@@precisiongrinder that often is not the case. Many women who are over 30 or 35 still must jump through hoops in order to become permanently sterilized. Hoops like waiting until they are over 40 or needing a husband/brother/father's permission (yes, this is still a thing in some places) or needing to have already had children. They don't care if you are 20 and have had 2 kids or have PCOS or severe endometriosis, or are physically or financially unable to care for a potential child, they only want you to be able to get pregnant no matter the consequences.
Wow, I live in MD and didn’t know that!
Absolutely. It's not a binary. And their goal is always to give women less and less control over their bodies. Abortion bans of course don't stop here, even in states with abortion bans women still have too much bodily autonomy for these fascists, which is why we're seeing child marriage laws and anti-divorce laws and increasing restrictions on birth control. They'll never be done.
I was molested at 6 and 10. Violently beaten and I lived in rage. I self medicated with meth,a lot of meth while I worked a job. I at 18 was not going to bring a drug addicted baby into a world of rage.
It was responsible and well thought out. It never happened again.
I got my life together got sober and built a beautiful life and family. I have never regretted leaving that soul in heaven.
You changed your life because you were not forced to give up your life. I wish more people understood the financial and societal outcomes for women, especially low income single women, when forced to take care of a baby. They are forced into poverty which starts the cycle for their kids.
I am glad that you made it out safely.
Same. My first abortion got me out of a very dangerous life, now I'm doing well with my family.
You admit that you took a soul. Killed a person for convenience because you were not ready to care for a child.
@@traviso7810 The child was going to suffer if born, so I would imagine giving birth would be worse. Not to mention they may not have had a choice in conceiving the child. What's it like living without a soul so you can say such horrid things to people?
@@BinaryHedgehog1 what's it like defending child murder while you simultaneously pretend to be the moral authority?
I live in Idaho. I also wished John Oliver covered this but states, like Idaho, have closed down their maternal mortality boards so that way they don't have to report maternal deaths which are definitely raising along with domestic issues rising and domestic abuse shootings. Our government will NEVER let us on vote on the issue. Prenatal and obstetrics wards have closed and some permanently! A friend of mine went viral for chronicaling her journey with trying to get a DnC in the state of Idaho and she was close to her deathbed before anyone would help after she had been in and out of the emergency room multiple times. She was told by the Dr., when she finally received help, that she wasn't helped because of the abortion laws. Idaho is really bad.
Yeah, there's an ahole in one of the other comment threads on this video trying to convince me that pregnancy and childbirth isn't REALLY such a big deal, and thus brutally forcing the risks and cost thereof on women isn't REALLY all that bad. Disgusting.
“Sir, madam, enby icon” was something I definitely needed to hear John Oliver say today.
So, I'm french and there's a "context" card beneath the vid linking to the french gov. website on abortion rights in France, informations about the methods, how to get it, when, who to ask and so on... We aren't role models on much but this just feels right. My heart goes to the women whose rights are being trampled right now in the US and beyond ❤
Just as an FYI: the laws that France has about abortions would be considered far-right extremism in the US by the progressives that watch channels like this.
@@far2ez I'm going to guess you don't know anything about French laws. I'm also going to guess you didn't watch the video and don't know anything about the far right extremist laws being enacted now that people are freaking out about. But I'm sure you still voted to enact them
@far2ez You are absolutely wrong but keep spreading misinformation, more restricted than in some states sure but there are differences especially when it comes from risk of life to the woman, medical complications, cases of rape etc. Most abortions aren't late stage unless it is under circumstances that cause risk of life or the baby won't survive the pregnancy or there are severe medical issues, going on and france does absolutely provide those exceptions. Not to mention problems with Healthcare in the us.
@@far2ezNobody considers 14 weeks far-right
@bbabbich3467 WWI actually
Still the most infuriating decision made by our Supreme Court! My body, my health, my LIFE is MY BUSINESS…when will women and their rights stop being marginalized! I have a granddaughter and I am afraid of what she will be up against. It’s not just women’s rights…it’s EVERYONES!! What’s next?? No tubal ligations and no vasectomy’s?? Ahhhh, if it was MEN losing their right to medical privacy, this would play out VERY differently!
Not really. The conservative position is all about making special exceptions for themselves. They're always on about "freedom", but they are the most free people in the world, because not even their word is their bond. Or, in the words of Ethan Grey:
"This is a thread on Republican messaging. The press doesn't want to have a direct conversation with you about this. So as a former Republican who is now a consistent Democratic voter, I will. Thread.
Here is the Republican messaging on anything of importance:
1. They can tell people what to do.
2. You cannot tell them what to do.
This often gets mistaken for hypocrisy, there's an additional layer of complexity to this (later in the thread), but this is the basic formula.
You've watched the Republican party champion the idea of 'freedom' while you have also watched the same party assault various freedoms, like the freedom to vote, freedom to choose, freedom to marry who you want and so on.
If this has been a source of confusion, then your assessment of what Republicans mean by 'freedom' were likely too generous. Here's what they mean:
1. The freedom to tell people what to do.
2. Freedom from being told what to do.
When Republicans talk about valuing 'freedom', they're speaking of it in the sense that only people like them should ultimately possess it.
So with this in mind, let's examine some of our political issues with an emphasis on who is telling who what to do. And hopefully there will be no ambiguity about what the Republican Party message is ever again.
Let's start with the COVID-19 pandemic. We were told by experts in infectious diseases that to control the spread of the pandemic, we had to socially distance, mask, and get vaccinated. So, in a general sense, we were being told what to do. Guess who had a big problem with that.
All Republicans saw were certain people trying to tell them what to do, which was enough to make it their chief priority to insist that they will not be told what to do. Even though what they were told to do could save lives, including their own.
As you can see, this is a very stunning committent to refusing to be told what to do. So much so that it is in fact not 'pro-life.' But Republicans will nevertheless claim to be the 'pro-life' party. That is because they recognize 'pro-life' can be used to tell people what to do.
The reason they say they are 'pro-life' when they are trying to tell women what to do with their bodies is not out of genuine concern for human life, but because they recognize that in this position, they can tell women what to do with their bodies.
That's why when you use the same appeal -- 'pro-life' -- when you ask Republicans to do something about gun violence in schools, it doesn't work. Because you are now in the position of telling Republicans what to do. That's precisely why they don't want to do anything about it.
Anyway, gun violence in schools is not a problem, but their children having to weak masks in school is. Because somebody is telling their children what to do. Dead children don't bother them, but telling their children what to do? Only they should do that.
They claim to be for 'small government', but that really means a government that tells them what to do should be as small as possible. But when the Republican Party recognizes it has an opportunity to tell people what to do, the government required for that tends to be large.
The reason Republicans are so focused on the border isn't because they care about border security, it's because they recognize it as the most glaring example of when they can tell other people what to do. That's why it's their favourite issue.
You want in? Too bad. Get out.
If Republicans could do this in every social space -- tell the people who aren't like them too bad, get the fuck out -- I'm here to assure you that would be something resembling their ideal society.
Now, there are economic policies we've proposed that we can demonstrate would be of obvious benefit to even Republican voters. So how do Republican leaders kill potential support for these policies? Make the issue about who is telling who what to do.
They focus on the fact that Democrats may raise taxes. Even when it's painfully obvious that Democrats aren't going to raise taxes on everyone (or on very few people), what's important here is that Democrats are the people telling certain people what to do.
If you want to know why Republicans can easily be talked out of proposals from the Democratic Party that are shown to be of benefit to them, it is precisely because they have to entertain the idea of Democrats telling certain people what to do.
What you failed to understand from the very beginning is that Democrats should not ultimately be in the position to tell anyone what to do. Only Republicans should be in the position to tell people what to do.
On the issue of climate change, a lot of them don't regard it as a serious issue to the extent that they think it's a hoax. This is because when you tell Republicans to do something for the sake of the planet, you are still ultimately telling them what to do.
Furthermore, you are conceiving the planet as a thing that all human beings should have to share. I am here to assure you that the GOP's main concern with the planet is to ensure that they don't have to share it.
Now here's where things get interesting: when you explain to Republicans you want them to do something and explain it's on the basis of benefitting other people. Now you have really crossed a line. Not only did you tell them what to do, you told them to consider others.
The whole point of an arrangement where you can tell people what to do, but you can't be told what to do, is precisely to avoid having to consider others. This is why this is their ideal arrangement: so they don't have to do that.
As you can see, this is a very toxic with the idea of who can tell who what to do. So much so that it seems like the entire point is to conceive of a 'right' kind of people who can tell other people what to do without being told what to do. Yup, that's the point.
So let's add one more component to the system for who tells who what to do:
1. There are 'right' human beings, and there are 'wrong' ones.
2. The 'right' ones get to tell the 'wrong' ones what to do.
3. The 'wrong' ones do not tell the 'right' ones what to do.
As you can see, I've just been talking about white male supremacy and the accompanying caste system structure it enforces all along. And I'm talking about this because the message of the Republican Party is that they quite like it.
But I realize that we are operating in an environment where white male supremacy is so entrenched that the press can't even conceive of the Republican Party's agenda of sorting the 'right' human beings from the 'wrong' ones as maybe presenting a 'messaging problem.'
This is because the press has chosen to accommodate the Republican Party in a very specific way:
1. It normalizes the Republican agenda.
2. It normalizes framing the responsibility for stopping that agenda as ultimately being on Democrats.
Think about it: white supremacy is not allowed to be viewed as a 'messaging problem.' Even when it's a threat to democracy. Because if it's a 'messaging problem', to Republicans, that sounds like you're telling them that's a problem they have to solve.
Anyway, I made this thread mostly because I realize that the press has a 'messaging problem.' Namely, in the sense that they seem extremely averse to explicitly identifying the message of the Republican Party. It's called white male supremacy."
Remember, the agreement of Roe v Wade was made on the basis that abortion should be safe, legal, and rare. And I'm pretty sure as time went on the amount of abortions hasn't maintained its rare status.
@@GrahamChapman normal women don't have more 32 chromosomes. Has nothing to do with the womans body, has everything to do with the babies body.
Don't feel safe from disease, take precausions and do what you think is best for you.
What are you trying to tell republicans that will stop school shootings? "Hey, you shouldn't have automatic weapons cause someone who has no regard for the law also shouldn't have them." Cause the term law abiding mass shooter makes sense.
Oh yeah, and Republicans love stopping people at the border, not because there are tons of illegal immigrants crossing everyday, but because Republicans just dislike all immigrants and not just illegal ones.
And Republicans love suppressing voters with ID laws because it isn't something that almost every country in Europe has.
@@Levi-gh1sq Not so. The abortion rate has dropped steadily since the 1980s, while the birth rate/total fertility rate declined steadily as well. People got better at preventing unwanted pregnancies; they weren't "choosing life." This is no thanks to the Religious Right, who have stood in the way of the protocols that cause abortion rates to plummet: Subsidizing & encouraging LARCs, along with comprehensive, accurate sex-ed (not absti-nonsense).
"Rare" implies that there's something wrong with it, for lack of a better term, although I can understand "rare" in the context of being able to avoid all of that trouble.
Go vote and make all the women around you realize that there is only one correct answer.
The first time I watched Last Week Tonight, I asked myself, “Why do they even bother with the jokes! You’re AMAZING at covering an issue, just lay out the argument straight!”
Now, I’m realising that if it weren’t for the satire, the show would be impossible to watch. When the state of affairs is THIS dire, an accurate representation of the situation alone is enough to be deeply disturbing.
Can’t exaggerate how much I love this show.
Wealthy Republican women and the wives, daughters, sisters, mistresses, and escorts of wealthy Republican men will always have access to safe abortion procedures. In any state they want. Laws are for little people.
This. Majorly. This is about making life as miserable as possible for everyone except those who will be impacted by it and have the power to get these procedures done on the low.
Or, they'll just fly them to Canada or Europe
Condoms are cheaper than all that too
Lol this guy's is Nuts 😂
Republicans only? So they will be above the law from what your saying?
Nuts 😂😂😂😂😂
@@LenGott8345 no this is about tricking christian voters in staying red by appealing to their hatred
We are talking about a country that doesn’t even consider maternity leave and even pays women in general less just for being able to get pregnant…. And now you’re forcing them to keep an unwanted child…which may very much kill them…. Like how can a whole damn country not give a single eff about women’s health 😫😫😩😩
Women don't get paid less. This is a fact. Stop talking.
@chrish2112 "Women around the world are also more likely than men to work part-time. And part-time work, even for the same kind of job in the same occupation and sector, has a lower hourly wage with fewer social protections and benefits than comparable full-time work. According to the ILO, women account for about 57% of global part-time work, and the earnings gap between comparable full-time and part-time work is in the order of 10%.
There is also evidence that motherhood and associated gender differences in household care responsibilities are significant factors behind the gender pay gap.
There's evidence of a wage penalty for motherhood: all else being equal, there is a negative relationship between a woman’s wage and the number of children she has. According to OECD data, the motherhood penalty amounts to about a 7% wage reduction per child. There is also some evidence of a fatherhood premium: a positive relationship between a man’s wage and the number of children he has."
"Women often choose to move to part-time employment or to step out out of a career promotion pathway in order to have more time for motherhood and childcare when their children are young. If they return to work full-time, they are often forced to accept a lower wage compared to the wage they would have earned had they stayed in their original job."
@@lolasonne1772 Then get a real job. Women don't deserve special treatment because they work part time.
@@chrish2112Republicans are the scum of the earth. That is a fact. Stop talking.
@@chrish2112 You are ignorant. This is a fact. Stop talking.
It is so hard to grasp that it has been over 16 months that the United States proved to the _Entire_ world that both our Judicial Branch and our Health Care system *do not function* properly.
Showed that decades ago
Don‘t worry about that. The whole western civilization has known this for decades.
A lady in Texas recently got court approval for an abortion and then the AG said "No you can't" anyway. Just so we're clear that the exceptions are only exceptions as long as nobody tries to use them.
Practicing medicine without a license needs his sorry butt sued and jailed
As an Ohioan I was so proud of my elderly conservative grandmother for deciding to vote yes on issue one and for trying to convince her fellow republicans to join her. We don’t always see eye to eye but I wanted to cry when she told me she talked herself into supporting abortion rights.
That's fantastic. Ya know, being surrounded by "pro life" people, I would talk to people I know and I realized- there actually are not ANY purely "pro life" people in the sense that they push for. Because without exception, every single person I talked to, when I would point out various situations to them when an abortion was necessary, they ALWAYS said, "oh well I'm sure the abortion would be allowed in THAT circumstance, obviously!" I wanted to scream, because- NO! No it isn't! That's literally what you are advocating for, to get RID of all those choices so women don't have access to help including in those awful situations you never thought about and probably never even heard of.
Being pro-choice doesn't have to mean you are "pro" abortion, and there is a wide spectrum of views amongst those who are pro choice. Being pro choice is as simple as saying, "decisions being made about this are simply none of my or anyone's business, and are too complex (and private) to be legislated."
@@sciencemama6801 you could say the same thing for pro-abortion. Obviously you probably aren't ok with aborting 9 months in the day before the baby is supposed to be born.
When you bring up things like medical necessity, r*pe etc. it's like arguing for the totality of murder to be legal because self defense is a valid reason to kill someone. If you want to argue in cases of inc*st or various other things that abortion should be allowed, then you should concede getting an abortion because "my bf got me pregnant 3 months ago but having a kid would ruin my euro-trip plans" is wrong and shouldn't be allowed. If you think that the abortion of convenience is ok then more extreme cases aren't really relevent.
The most intelligent people are the ones who can change their minds
John mentioned legislators pretending that they have more medical experience than doctors. The best example comes from Ohio where legislators tried to make a law demanding that doctors reimplant ectopic pregnancies in the uterus - despite being told by doctors that no such medical technology existed. It was impossible to do with current medical science, but legislators wanted to make it illegal for doctors NOT to do this.
That's insane
I had a 9 week ectopic in Ohio. It was nightmarish enough.
I heard on an NPR program they got the idea from a 1917 paper. I think we were still treating Syphilis with mercury in 1917.
Maybe, and I know it’s a crazy idea, for big legislative changes (like ones that take away certain people’s human rights) state legislators could tell their constituents they’re proposing a new law, solicit feedback from their constituents, maybe even talk to some experts, and then decide whether or not to enact that law.
I think what Mark Sauter was actually saying is that, like most republicans, they hadn't give any meaningful thought to their beliefs because they weren't personally affected or confronted by the consequences of said beliefs. He definitely always knew that it would affect half of his state.
Right. As someone living in/raised in the South, I also often find that conservative lawmakers pay little to no mind to the needs of constituents who didn't vote them in and wouldn't assist in their re-election.
Someone needs to interview the people who are banning abortion and ask them the real question "What do you gain from banning abortion?"
Edit: I found out that apparently they think if they banned abortion that more babies will be born and therefore those babies can grow up to work for the rich people and make the money. I wish I was joking.
Our humanity back?
Power, that's what they gain. Power to control the lives of other people.
@@benmohatun Being a human means having control over your body. If you don't have control over that, you're a slave to whoever does have control over your body--the government, a person forcing you to remain pregnant. You're being treated like an animal that gets bred when a person who owns the animal chooses to breed them.
They gain the ability to harm people that they hate--women.
@@benmohatun how does banning abortion give us our humanity back?
I personally believe that the the right to bodily autonomy should be enshrined in the constitution. You, an individual, have the freedom to have an abortion, to get a tattoo, a piercing, do cosmetic surgery, whatever.
Lol democrats whined when ppl didn’t want vaccines, they don’t believe in autonomy
Or refuse any of those, specifically referring to the last one. Intersex children will thank you.
And obviously people can also be forced to abort by a someone to have an abortion so they can avoid consequences, or be forced by an abuser to have a tattoo or piercing. So bodily autonomy is indeed key.
That is core to my personal philosophy. I believe in body sovereignty; the concept that each person's body is their sovereign state and they can do with it as they please. Without a right to your own body, you can't have any other rights. Freedom of speech is meaningless if someone else can have your jaw wired shut. The right to bear arms is meaningless if you can be forced to undergo amputations of both hands. The right to privacy is meaningless if your personal medical decisions can be controlled by the state.
You see how I listed two things that seem ridiculous but then a third one that's actually happened? Kinda makes you wonder if the first two are actually that ridiculous.
It _is_ enshrined in the Constitution. It's the right to privacy, found in the 9th amendment in combination with many other amendments and laws. You have the freedom to drink alcohol, too, as became clear when it had to be taken away with an amendment. That's because it was granted to you as an implied freedom when states regulated it with a drinking age. That's how the 9th amendment works.
Wow, what a wonderful utopia you're describing here : tattoos, piercings and cosmetic surgeries are more or less a form of mutilation that hinges on your self loathing and insecurities. Funny how you're talking about your bodily autonomy by erasing someone else's.
What pisses me off the most is when people say “what if you mother had an abortion and you would not be here?”. Well, first of all, if I was never born, I would simply not be here; and I would not miss being here, or think about what I am missing. Second of all, my mom DID have an abortion after I was born. It was an ectopic pregnancy (meaning the embryo starts growing in the fallopian tube) with twins, and continuing the pregnancy would have been life-threatening, and the twins would not have survided anyway. So yes, I am IMMENSELY glad that my mom had an abortion, so I have a living mother, and a younger sister who came a few years later, despite the doctors saying mom might not be able to concieve again. ❤
I just tell people the truth: "You're wildly underestimating how shitty my life is"
@@onelongwordable.......what?
@@TitularHeroine Could also be re-phrased "You're wildly overestimating how great my life is"
Basically, what makes the person asking the question think that the person being asked the question actually would choose to still be alive if given the choice.
As somebody who has had suicidal thoughts in the past, it is definitely something that has passed through my mind on MANY occasions. Thankfully, I have a mother who loves me and I know she'd be crushed if I took that way out. Also, I am still JUST enough of an optimist to believe that their COULD be something better in the future, and so I might as well tough it out. As an atheist, I don't believe in a Hell or Heaven or an afterlife in general, so while the majority of my life might not have been the most pleasant, it is still worth trying to pull whatever enjoyment out of this life that I can. After all, it is the only one I get, most likely.
Umm your mother DID NOT have an abortion. I’m an operating room nurse it’s an ectopic pregnancy meaning we normally remove the fallopian tube because if the embryo continues to grow the fallopian tube will burst and the patient can bleed to death. There is that.
It pisses me off because it fundamentally proves they have no empathy. The only way you can believe that being alive is a fundamentally good thing is if you lack the ability to understand any human thought or emotion that isn't yours. No, any actual respectable human being recognizes that life as a concept is purely neutral. As is death. Whether they are a good or bad thing will ENTIRELY depend on context.
The pure anger and hate in "not a girls girl" was simply perfect
Thank you. Really appreciate that you made this episode. It’s been an all out assault on reproductive rights for years. We could certainly use more supportive advocacy like this. Thank you again.
For a country founded on the principles of really hating other people telling you what to do, they sure like to tell people, especially women, what they can do to their bodies
its so easy to not have sex until you want and are able to raise a baby
@@Aksm91ManNavarHave you ever heard accidents? Sometimes the contraception doesn't work, it isn't 100% proof.
I know right?
Abortion is just another way society allows women to avoid responsibility for their actions. I will oppose abortion until men have equal rights.
To be fair, the people that hate being told what to do often likes telling other people what they can do. Like, isn't telling someone "You can't tell me what to do!" telling someone else what they can do?