Misinformation: Last Week Tonight with John Oliver (HBO)
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- John Oliver discusses how misinformation spreads among immigrant diaspora communities, how little some platforms have done to stop it, and, most importantly, how to have a very good morning.
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As an Indian, I can assure you that John Oliver is NOT exaggerating when he's talking about those Good Morning forwards. LWT could do an entire episode on WhatsApp in India alone.
@@arnavpandey3823 godi media goes brrrrrr 😂😂😂😂😂🍆🍆🍆🍆
this is hilarious to read
Yes
@@arnavpandey3823 like what
@@arnavpandey3823 no, he really doesn't. He just speaks on things you don't like
Last Week Tonight team,
if you’re reading these comments: having subtitles in multiple languages (Chinese for me) for this video would be IMMENSELY helpful. I would honestly sit my parents down and have them watch this, because this is exactly how they’ve been radicalized and mislead. The tragic irony in all this is that I can’t easily find anything in their native language that goes in-depth like this about the spread of misinformation in immigrant communities via private chat apps. Best I have in my arsenal is Chinese subtitles for The Social Dilemma. It’s such an uphill battle. Beyond the awesome greeting animations, subtitles in multiple languages would be an incredible gift to help with this issue.
You can set the subtitles to any language via auto-translate. Not sure that the accuracy will be good enough.
Commenting to bump your message, hoping someone at Last Week Tonight will see it.
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Me too
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I have to admit, it is nice to know that regardless of skin color, nationality, language, or religion, everyone has that one family member that can ruin a good mood with one message.
Not just that. Lots of problems from America he talks about in this show present in my country India too. So in reality, we aren't really different from each other except our cultures.
"Just because your voice reaches halfway around the world doesn't mean you are wiser than when it reached only to the end of the bar." - Edward R. Murrow
Hello fellow exJw.
@@veryexperiencedcamel
Who dis?
"Do you just sit around all day and figure out if things fit in holes"
Having spent time working in an ER, can confirm that is exactly what many people do.
You made me spit my coffee out!
😆
@@melissa8908 I'm glad I had finished my breakfast before watching this video and reading that comment.
@@bikeny Whatever you do, don't google it!! XD
HEY-O XD
"Don't believe all you see on the internet." Gone are the days our elders use this sentence, now it is on us to tell them.
They did say that didn't they in the early noughties when we were teenagers. Now they do this its insane!
Oh how the turntables
I kind of miss the days when it was a given that pretty much everybody else in forums and chatrooms was a child molester. I never would have expected child molesters to be the lesser evil.
I k r, isn't that crazy?
@@adamjoestar2001 th-cam.com/video/asBkswg4q4I/w-d-xo.html
"Our uncles and aunties have PhDs in Science but that's no match for WhatsApp" I'M DYING 😂😂😂
The fabulous idea that the finally living on her own college kid could convince their uncle/aunt/mom/dad to stop sharing misinformation through a simple phone call is WILD. My family would call me a commie liberal so fast if I tried to convince them their "memes" were trash.
Id be disowning my worthless family. Anyone who has anything to do with or believes anything from the GOP are removed from my life perm at this point. Including one of my family members as well.
@@RubbishFPS So you stan black poverty? you stan homelessness? you stan high tax for the working class? that why you're addicted to blue states and their policies?....
kekw.
''the worst enemy of the black man in america is the white liberal.''
What I did in my family chat every time someone shared something clearly fake was post an article debunking it and remind everyone (again!) not to share things over WhatsApp unless they could investigate it first. I think it took over a year of doing it, but after gaining the support of other adults in the chat we don't have to deal with this anymore.
@@RubbishFPS That’s fucking extreme…
@@RubbishFPS I agree with the above, that's a _little_ extreme. You should be there through them even through their most insane.
I mean, obviously there's a line... but that line should be pretty far off.
As an Indian, those good morning messages are exactly what i receive from my parents, my uncles and aunts , my relatives, any elderly person added in my whatsapp. 😂😂😂 This is so accurate 😆😆
Nice
Also hoaxes and fake news.... I call them whatsapp University students
Same
**it's so horrifying,,, that all these people,, are being fed so much misinformation!!!!! The anti-vaxxers have blood on their hands!! Thank God everyone I know is vaccinated!!**
I feel you.......just checked I have exactly 427 good morning and good night images in my phone ..... going to clear that junk right now. 😂😂😂😂😂
after trying to awkwardly explain to my friends who have never heard of WeChat about how my Asian immigrant parents went from democrats to hard-core tr*mp fans, I’m surprised and impressed that someone as well-known as John Oliver is addressing this exact problem. Thank you for bringing attention to this!
So your parents have escaped from Identity politics good for them.👍
**JOHN OLIVER IS A NATIONAL TREASURE.... THE WAY HE EXPLORES IMPORTANT ISSUES,,, AND EDUCATES THE VIEWER,,, IS PRICELESS!!!!**
@@johnedward3404 🤣🤣🤣🤣 Even I used to think like you and thought he was not bias.
@@meiteiluwang4550 ?
Uhhh cmon now, Jon Oliver is also full of misinformed shit sometimes. We all are.
As the kid of Indian parents, I can attest that that guy was 100% right. My parents have engineering degrees, but my mom still believes every single fake ayurvedic she reads on WhatsApp.
I don’t understand why Indians are so susceptible to this kind of stuff. Does google translation of websites not work for them? (I know you speak English)
I love how suddenly after John Oliver emerged from the white void his studio background suddenly changed from glossy 21st century international skyline to futuristic cyberpunk hellscape straight out of 'Blade Runner' and 'Akira'.
wtf are u on it's just abstract skyline-like art. You're making connections where there aren't any
As an Indian, I can tell you all that my relatives flipped out when I pointed out that the forwarded message was nonsense. The argument was so bad I eventually left the family group as it was plain exhausting!
Same thing happened to me.. I don't talk to my uncle anymore..
Thanks for Whatsapp for making us realise that becoming old doesn't make you any wiser
Familly... group? In Whatsapp? Woah, this is wild for a person like me from Russia
deadass bruh all my relatives are so quick to buy any bullshit insulting western culture and verifying ancient knowledge even if there is zero proof lmao
Same happened to me with my relatives in Brazil. Sad shit.
Parents 2005: "Don't belive everything you read on the internet"
Same parents 2021: "I got it from the internet, it has to be true"
Parents 1979: "Don't believe what you see on TV news."
Children of those parents 2021: "Everything TV news says is true."
@@orionsshoe2424 Yeah they did. I still remember the Gulf of Tonkin incident. Fake TV news really hasn't changed that much.
@@orionsshoe2424 It's a big Russiagate conspiracy. Putin told me himself when I was training at the troll farm. 🤣
Funny to see a British be anti american complain so much even about the 1st amendment. Yet moves here to be rich.
@@godblesshamas lol,lol,lol
Meanwhile my family group chat consists of "hey I'm at the grocery store any last minute requests" or "turn down your music it's giving me a headache"
Not sure how we avoided this rabbit hole but I'm glad we did
The ONE benefit I had/ still have as someone who became immunocompromised at age 10 and grew up with over protective latino immigrant parents is that they actually fact check any "medical advice" they got/get from WhatsApp Tias on "how to improve immunity" and listened to credible medical sources bc they were terrified of losing me. Of course there was a VERY low risk of me dying but like I said, they were overprotective.
As an Indian and someone who has suffered the blunt force of relatives sending *Good Morning* messages, yeah shit is real.
That sounds horrendous
@@davimurph it's worse.
@@debyanibhattacharjee5124 worse than horrendous? That *is* bad.
@@davimurph *Welcome to India!*
As a Filipino, I am baffled that your Good Morning messages have made it all the way here. A lot of my elderly relatives send those quite frequently, at least to their groups. Some of the ones they send are modified to be more Christian, but almost every example in this video I have seen from my aunts and grandparents at least once. XD
It’s so funny that the same parents who told us to “be careful online” are now getting absolutely destroyed by it.
I feel like it is the parents who did not warn their kids about this that are getting destroyed.
@@paxomatic sadly, no.
Agreed. My mother used to warn me about all online-related stuff. Now they believe in the most ridiculous stuff (be it related to Covid conspiracies, some "miracle supplement" or whatever bogus topic you can think of).
Whenever I try to set things right (looking for credible sources, fact checking etc.) it's just being dismissed since it's "mass-media lying" or whatever.
It's really depressing
Literally everything he’s said is misinformation. The vaccine has only proven to make covid worse and make your chances against covid or anything way worse.
@@Man11235 the covid vaccine gave me myocarditis. I'm pretty jaded with the results. It's so bad that there's no way in hell I'm getting the second dose. But you're still full of shit. That's not true at all.
My mother got so mad that I posted a link on her FB post from a credible source that she unfriended me on FB, then sent me a friend request a week later, then got mad at me again when I said she was the one who took me off her FB for telling the truth. She told me to stop being childish🙄😆
14:16 I love when John said "Grow up". 😂🤣😂🤣
Teaching my mom how to look up and research things on the internet was the best thing that ever happened to my life...
She never sends me those things anymore, instead, she calls out people on their bullshit in her newsfeed... its beautiful!😆
That's amazing. Well done.
Proud of you and your mom!
That’s would take a lot of work on my end. Buts it’s on my list!
how did you do it?
@@littlesometin
If ur seriously asking:
I just told her some few basic thing to look for when reading something on any article.
1. Google who the article writer's name, is it just a random blogger or a professional.etc etc
2. Google any institution name cited in the article, is it real, or does it have anything to do with what is writen etc etc.
3. Look at if the site is reputable, someones personal blog, a real academic site, etc etc.
These 3 dont seem like a big deal, but it gives someone a general understanding if an article is based of personal opinion or real research. I told my mom other things too, these are only some of them at the top of my head.
Ps: u can also reverse search image of the writers profile picture if there are any, scammers tend to use stock image for their personal photo, using other peoples headshots.
Kind of heartwarming and at the same time horrifying to know aunties that forward conspiracies in messenger apps exist in all cultures all over the world
yep It's universal should we be happy or sad😂😥
It’s a pandemic of its own 😰
or maybe we're all human after all, who could've guessed it?
Humanity has its perks, and it has its flaws.
But in the end, we’re all human
@@hockeylvr42 yes let's learn from this so we can move on and finally evolve more. The internet has been this shiny new toy for decades now when will we learn to stay away from it sometimes
You know a country is in a bad place when a comedian is more informative than the "news."
Not true. A country that lets a "comedian" like this exist to ridicule establishments without repercussions isn't that bad. Especially compared to countries where state-sponsored media is the sole source of "news".
I am not referring to any specific country in either of the 2 last statements.
God I'm glad John has a live audience again. He's SO much better with a live audience.
90s parents be like: child, don't trust everything on the internet.
2020s kids be like: parents, don't trust everything on the internet.
2020s kids be like “parents trust everything the government tells you”
The most WILD thing about this is, if you are a 90's kid, then it's YOUR parents! the ones who told you not to trust everything on the internet, who are now falling for this nonsense.
It's like "did you not tell me everyone on the internet is lying about who they are and are creepy pedos as well as everything on any website being lies??? How is it you managed to 'do as I say, not as I do' about fucking this???"
How the tables have turned?
Tho it is kinda understandable. Old people really don't have any ideas about misinformation on the internet or more specifically how rumours can be spread with these message apps. Coupled with the fact that it comes from people who is a friend or family.
Sometimes I tried to my parents about this. My mom is kinda unsure about all of this whereas my dad won't move an inch. He will keep believing in this shit. Since my dad talks with my mom more than I do, eventually mom believes in this shit too.
@@LifeisA_Dream You know, coming from the other side, i.e. being a scientist that work diligently to produce sound and reliable data, and then have people screaming at you that you are a liar and that your findings are false, this type of rant leaves me cold.
@@LifeisA_Dream Oh! Lookie lookie! It's some of that misinformation that we english speaking folks luckily have a plethora of sources to debunk...
Reminds me of my parents in the 90's
"Never trust anything you read on the internet, it's all evil. ALL of the internet is evil. They want to hurt you. Don't believe anything!"
And now, in 2021 "huh, looks like birds aren't real. I guess that makes sense. I read it on Facebook, so it must be real!"
Literally, the same person
i know right, im just so lost as to how that even happened though....
I believe "nonavian dinosaurs" is the preferred nomenclature, dude.
Ya know...
Also they warned us tirelessly to never use anything that might identify you because of scams, perverts and pedo, but now their generation are the ones getting their accounts hacked and using their full legal name as twitter usernames
Most Humans just have shit memory when it comes to this stuff. It's very annoying.
The morning greetung message is not a joke. I see them in the family group chat EVERYDAY.
Apparently misinformation like this can spread very easily in indigenous communities as well, mainly because they have a great deal of distrust in their governments. Which is pretty understandable given all the genocide. I've been told that's why uptake of covid vaccines on reserves is very low right now.
They are forcibly vaccinating Indigenous in Western Australia WTF?
As an Indian, I can verify that the samosa meme indeed did have a much bigger impact than intended. He's right.
Can you explain in more detail what the impact was and how censorship would have helped the situation?
As an outsider, I would like to understand how this is impacting your community so I can have some perspective that I wouldn’t be able to gain otherwise.
It was stupid on his part.
@@derekbrumbaugh6444 it's not really hard to imagine. He created a meme. People believed it. It was shared many times.
@@kcbh24 yes I can imagine what happened but how did it specifically affect the community? Is there a lesson that can be learned by the community?How will it be taught?
Through communication.
We can not resort to cutting people out of the communication loop due to mistakes.
I’m not saying the problem isn’t real. I’m saying the solution needs to be measured in a way in order to solve the problem.
Believing a joke is true is the READER'S CHOICE. I would much rather laugh at funny material than have it censored.
God as a Chinese immigrant when WeChat was mentioned I felt personally attacked LMAO. The conspiracy theories and baseless statements that spread in WeChat groups is genuinely insane and it is practically uncheckable, especially when Chinese culture emphasizes a respect for elders that stops most younger people like me from fact checking their idiotic articles. Thank you so much for this coverage! Although I would also love to see a story on the Pandora Papers released this week, the investigative work is incredibly admirable and the jaw dropping information is definitely worth an episode.
Always hit them up with wechat university diploma and watch your whole family group disown you for months.
"Dont disrespect your elders by arguing. Seniority is always right"
We have that “respect the elders” thing in Hispanic culture as well.
In this context, it’s definitely not a virtuous sentiment, sadly. They need to be educated on how much BS is on the web, at the very least. Just do it with love & respect.
We literally have the same thing in Indian culture. If I or my sister were to ever fact-check a link that some older family member or friend sent, we'd be seen as incredibly rude and disrespectful and would have to delete whatever messages we posted. It's aggravating, honestly
This hurts my heart
This point of misinformation being spread through whatsapp is so painfully true. From small details like "benefits of eating xx" to full blown conspiracy theories. My parents have a hard time identifying fake news from real ones, so I tend to be the one pointing it out to them. Unfortuantely this happens too often.
TH-cam is not screamingly bad. Without it, I would never have found you. 😍
This episode is SO IMPORTANT. There is rampant misinformation in Spanish language and it is - with no exaggeration - killing our communitites.
No joke, I play FB and Whatsapp police every time I can. The amount of of crap share via those channels is infuriating. Every single day there’s a new pyramid scheme being promoted to Spanish speaker in the US. Every single day there a new “breaking news” narrated by a random person and forwarded via Whatsapp. I’ve been saying this and I won’t stop: those famous “caravans” in the border, get their information from those massive Whatsapp messages. Somebody sends a voicenote saying “this is the moment, the administration will let people in” and that’s how that amount of people get together!
It’s actually funny because it gets rid of stupid people.
@@DrakeDealer It also gets rid of innocent people. People who weren’t apart of it but got hurt and affected anyway. It’s not really all the funny.
@@DMMM91 any idea who keeps posting these messages originally or is it individually popping up multiple times? Sometimes I wonder if certain misinformation campaigns are intentional.
There seems to be plants in these comment section. There is this Spanish one and then there is almost every nationality throughout.
It’s almost like this is video is the misinformation and the people in the comment section are there to reiterate the dangerous talking points of censoring views that you don’t agree with.
Calls to action and dangerous rhetoric that is directly causing harm is already illegal.
You aren’t suggesting ways to save lives because that involves hearing people that are completely wrong and finding ways to convince them that they are wrong.
You are suggesting outing them from the discourse and that only leads to darker and unpredictable outcomes.
As an Indian American son with WhatsApp, this is one of the most relatable segments I have ever watched
I know I’m getting secondhand embarrassment though 😂 like- who told him?
The first time I heard of Alex Jones was when he appeared in the 2020 election, claiming Trump was going to be the president "One way or another." That prompted me to do some digging on him, which led me to one of his videos, claiming that something in some lake was "making the freaking frogs Gay."
Now, I am NOT an expert in biology, neither do I understand chimestry, but I couldn't help but to laugh at such absurdities. Yet, I swallowed all that laughter while reading the comments on the video, and realizing that there were people who actually believe he was telling the truth.
And as you this made me realize how stupid many of the people around me are to believe such absurdities.
He actually got in biiiiig trouble when he said that the children who dued in the Sandy Hook school shooting were all crisis actors. This led to a sustained harrassment campaign of the parents by Jones’ fans, which led him to be kicked off multiple platformed and caused the parents to sue him.
Hi! I’m a biochemist. My father and mother know this. I told him all about viral infections when the pandemic started. He still went on Fb and started taking weird shakes like ginger, onions and garlic mixed with turmeric and cinnamon. He was convinced it was “the cure”. It could of been worst. If anything, he got a massive boost of antioxidants and anti-inflammation compounds with lots of vitamins and minerals! so not all bad. However, it is wild how Fb has become a way to spread lies and hook mostly uneducated (on the subject) or foreign or older individuals.
That “Grow up” was very satisfying he hasn’t yelled at the audience in a very long time.
That one must have been beyond calculated. I've watched 0 movies from the MCU so that one felt extra good lol
@@wombat6 🏅🎖️
@@wombat6 Your loss lmao, they're some of the best movies ever made. I'd argue that people that constantly talk shit about it are the ones that need to grow up.
@@MattII33 Wrong.
Maybe he grown up a little, be did not became smarter yet. He still thinks that truth can be given only by american comedians, mass media and Big Pharma.
honestly the audience being back is nice, John couldn't yell "grow up" to the void's love of the MCU
Can u tell me the time stamp
@@Vishnu-xf7zw 14:07 is when he mentions MCU and 14:20 is when he yells “grow up”
That was freaking hilarious, such a lighthearted and funny moment 😂
I stopped watching superhero movies after the year Iron Man and The Dark Knight came out back to back. It felt like an achievement that could never be topped. Does this mean I've finally grown up?
@@RM_VFX Just the opposite
the blessing of the internet
I think it’s an extension of the culture shock. I noticed that a lot with taxidrivers that I know well. For the most part they only really associate in their own communities, they generally speak to people from their own culture at work when they aren’t driving, or when they are driving, they are either on the phone to their friends from the same culture, or on the phone to somebody back home. So literally everything they are hearing is from a friend of a friend of mine who sends them a video about something or whatever. I used to go to school with a South Korean chick who moved to Australia to improve her English, but she found the whole experience of a different culture and language so threatening that for comfort she only spoke to other Koreans in their own language, she only attended Korean church, and every day she would speak to her family in Korea on the phone for three hours. She was living in Australia but she had no idea what was actually going on in Australia unless she heard it from friends, Who are also experiencing the same thing as her. and that’s before you even broach the topic of the fact that what is being pumped out in English isn’t all that much better. So what hope do some of these people have. Ever wonder why so many immigrants don’t like immigrants? Because of this exact problem. Not being able to affectively communicate in a language that you need to leaves you blind and easy prey for manipulation. Look at the Cubans, all you have to do is say Castro Castro at them and they will get in line and do what you want out of pure Tara
Your paragraph is just a euphemism for someone being ignorant.
Misinformation has been so rampant in the Asian community that we joke about our parents getting a PhD from WeChat University.
Y'all's entire community is doing this?
I would like this but you're currently on 69 likes, so...
arent we all forgetting that the united states of america is the one and only superspreader of misinformation worldwide?
Same in India , but it is called Whatsapp University
lolx
That Indian Good morning message bit is incredibly accurate 😂
Yup.
I thought these kinds of weirdo kitsch good morning videos were a German thing, apparently they're an international diabetes conglomerate...
I just want to know how to sign up to daily good morning messages from the Sad Toucan Channel, set to music performed by John Oliver learning sitar.
NICE
@@XxTaraneaxX Yeah, senior people in WeChat like to send the gif equivalent too.
This tv show has done / does more for democracy in the U.S. than any American public institution.
This is why in Australia I can't stress how important the ABC and SBS stations are here. They're our national and international voices that keep people informed regardless what language they speak. It's hard to get every language though, hopefully one day that can be improved! (I listen not just in English, but Hungarian too and very impressed with them.)
Also it's not just oldies falling for this. Most people at anti vaxx protests here are under 30 typically early 20s.That's concerning that we stopped educating people properly about health at school after I turned 15. That's a fucking scary thought.
sbs and abc are important? LOL most of their videos get more dislikes than likes.
Also, how do you know most people are under 30 typically early 20s at protests? Do you have access to statistical evidence to prove this?
And since when did we stop educating children about health in school? Did that happen in a certain year? Because it's still taught today.
As a Vietnamese person, welcome to a glimmer of what it’s like in a Viet household.
Curious about this statement....would think that from 1975 to now, all (US) rehomed Vietnamese would clearly understand US English and conduct most of life (perhaps minus food) as ball park American, using basic media info as the source of viewpoints (correct or incorrect content).
Wow I would move somewhere without service for my phone.
So true, my household is full of misinformations regarding mask and Covid-19
@@charlesperkins3669 I work with a couple Vietnamese ladies who came here in 75 and some of them really don’t speak much English still. And even the ladies I work with who do still prefer to watch their soaps in Vietnamese verses English. One of my ladies speaks English great but prefers important government paperwork or interviews to be in her native language so she can make sure she understands it wholly. In my city and state we have large Vietnamese communities and whenever we have important information going out you’ll usually see it posted in English, Spanish, and Vietnamese. Of course around here some folks grandparents didn’t speak English either and spoke Cajun French but where still Americans.
@@charlesperkins3669 some do, some don't. A lot of people came over when they were older and just settled into ethnic enclaves, so they can pretty much go about their day without english. The proportion of Vietnamese people who speak English is pretty low compared to other Asian groups
I have a rather clever aunt, she always forwards stuff she's unsure about to me and her son to fact-check first before taking further measures lol
Unsure* not insecure lol 😂
I commend your aunt for asking second opinions. Not everybody does that...
@@peanutbutter7639 oops, thanks 😂 when english is not your first language… I keep confusing them
Had a tough convo w my mom about this, and now she DMs me things to fact check first as well 🧡 a relief
The Dunning Krueger effect in action. It's good to realize that we don't know everything.
Been arguing with my parents about forwarding such videos and thank god my parents are sane and understand not to accept anything that's written online blindly.
Just ignoring the irony of John Oliver talking about misinformation
Hang on.. what have I missed??
@@aubreymarie1575half of what he says is left wing propaganda
How I wish this episode has subtitles in all major languages so we can show it to our parents who don’t speak English, my mom is exactly like the one who mentioned in this video, she believes almost anything sent by her friends from whatspp and it’s so draining to have to correct her all the time without being able to stop it the spread of misinformation.
That's something Oliver could do, like he did a version of the piece about pyramid schemes in Spanish.
To be fair I'm not sure it would help - I've tried showing my mom John Oliver videos (she speaks english) but she just said she didn't like him, and ended up not watching him. Still subtitles are always nice!
@@Rime_in_Retrograde Yes, it's still a big challenge because people mix up someone being likeable with being credible.
As far as i know you could volunteer subtitles. Then you'll just have to wait if they would approve it
@@TheValyGaming if I have that good of a linguistic skill I would, I am literally writing line by line as best I could for my mom, so she could understand, if you know how hard it is to translate jokes for people from different culture and different language, if I just translate word for word all his jokes and punch point will make no sense.
I was a university professor in South Korea for 9 years. Getting students to source their research was a real challenge. First, NAVER and Kakao were considered by many writers to be THE source. Second, Confucian culture inculcates the student to accept all knowledge transfer from a teacher to a student as FACT. Thus, students rarely questioned the opinions of their teachers or sources, as this information is considered truth.
Hope you gave them all the F they deserved then!
@@ProDem717 It’s not a matter of giving them Fs it’s a matter of teaching them valuable skills. It sounds like professor McNulty understand the culture he was teaching in and was a better teacher for that therefore he’s able to explain to his students how as a researcher do you need to cite your sources. He can’t just expect them to understand some thing that is foreign to them because of their culture. There are many valuable things we can learn from Confucian Culture. Just like we as Americans can teach people about good research practices and how to approach academics from a western culture.
I found the transition from high school to university very rough when it came to the level of scrutiny with sourcing protocols and style formatting. Not that I believed everything I read or wasn't scrupulous for my age and knowledge, but how rigorous it was was rough. I imagine that night be a universal experience for many first year students, but I had not at all considered the factors you bring up specifically in a Korean context. I think here in Canada we might suffer from the culture of politeness at all costs in a way that's unique to us. The Canadian politeness stereotype is more a deep aversion to confrontation and uncomfortable truths in my opinion, and I wonder if your Canadian academic peers would say that's a factor in our learning curve. Thanks for sharing.
@@marimarroquin1166 still, it's a bit funny when you say that Americans can teach others about research. On the other side, I'm in Germany, where QAnon has also its followers en Masse.
@@radschele1815 Fair. But not all of see Q as a valid source. I can safely say that they too do not know how to research. Some of Qs followers have never seen the inside of a classroom let alone the inside of a Uni lecture hall.
It feels so empowering to hear someone as smart, talented and different as John Oliver talking about issues that impact the struggles of living in the US DESPITE not being born or raised here like us. Thank you John!
I love me some John Oliver in the evening.
As an Indian millennial having to respond to those aggressive good morning messages as if you have actually bothered to read them is the worst thing I do on a daily basis
Reply to the people who send misinformation with your own. Tell him if they send you $1000. Eventually it will turn into a $10,000 return. And if they ask what it is you need it for remind them that they don’t fact check the stuff they send you before so why are they asking now. Why don’t they just believe you since they so easily believe all the other nonsense.
@@kittycheshire5099 try muting the notifications from such groups/groups
As a Bangladeshi girl who spends every day debunking conspiracy theories from TH-cam to her mom and aunt, I painfully relate to this.
Blessings to you and all that good stuff from the good morning messages. Bangladesh, India, Vietnam, I saw Italy somewhere else, this is global and well, every generation has its struggle, struggle on.
Like what for example ?
@@user-jy5qm8nc9m misinformation about vaccine
I'm trying to stop my mother to going back to bangladesh because so few are vaccinated there.
@@Fahmed-rl6pr Such as? What type of stuff do you consider as misinformation?
It’s kind of validating to know the younger gens seeing through obvious internet crap is universal
The woman at the beginning was so funny
The voice
The niche interest in things narrowly fitting into holes
Her question at the end and the way John answered it 😂
In India we have a phrase called "Whatsapp University" for people getting all their news from Whatsapp
Not just news - education.
WhatsApp is a messaging app... Nobody is getting news from WhatsApp, they're getting it from other people in a messaging app
Lol I was gonna comment that too 🤣
SOMEONE IS FINALLY CALLING OUT THE GOOD MORNING MESSAGES
THANK YOU JOHN
ayyo thanks for the likes :)
The whole thing is so patronizing.
_"Oh, poor brown/yellow/whatever people can't figure out the "truth" for themselves.."_
@@yannick245 bro, why you have THAT pfp???
@@yannick245 we have a whole segment of society with white people who can’t figure out the truth. See January 6th.
@@yannick245 you’ve missed the point entirely, he’s highlighting that it’s just not white americans who are so misinformed and that having limited access or resources in their native language can be a big factor in the spread of misinformation.
IT'S ABOUT TIME SOMEONE CALL OUT MESSAGES IN ALL CAPS TOO, THEY ARE ALL WORTHLESS GARBAGE
It’s great to see the studio back, getting back to normality is a great thing. I’ve literally forgotten that COVID exists for weeks
As John said, I find it somehow reassuring that we share the exasperation and messaging habits are so shared across the board
Our elders used to tell us “don’t believe everything you read on the internet” now we say it to them
For real, every week my dad and mom are sending me shit or talking about something they found and im like 😑
John, do more!! Please translate this piece into several languages so we can share it too! We are exhausted fighting disinformation.
Yes, this! At the bare minimum providing closed captions in different languages is a good idea
@@TheObsidianForger They don't even have them in English, which really sucks.
This needs more upvotes !
John Oliver is the misinformation.
@@CptGooch all you do is comment on every one of their videos saying John is wrong. Can’t even take you serious with your user name.
When he said "You know the drill" at 13:55, I love and hate that I nodded subconsciously. I do know the drill Tiktok fellow.
Yes, I think we all agree misinformation on social networking is a problem… But the bigger problem is who will be in charge of policing it
Harambe never would have fallen for misinformation. Rest in peace, king
Harambe was for that natural immunity though
There’s been a lot more misinformation on the internet since Harambe died. No way that’s a coincidence
Those who shot him did
As a Vietnamese I am saddened by the fact that I no more hold the virtuous superiority of not having a version of Alex Jones over an American...
Don't feel bad, every language has an Alex Jones, I'm sure. What we need to worry about is when all the different Alexes Jones begin collaborating. That's terrifying.
Welcome to the club. We have jackets with deep hoods so you can hide your shame like the rest of us whenever one of their videos shows up on your feed.
Damn... same here... I guess this "Vietnamese Alex Jones" have never been to Vietnam... masks are everywhere, way before Covid
This is the promise of Equality- here is your ersatz Banh Mi on a gigantic pillow-y bread loaf.
Ha hah!!! Yeah, man! Turns out, we're ALL in this together.
That clip from the Indian fella is an absolute gem!
I totally agree with what he said at 14:08! 😂 (Especially the crowd's reaction afterwards!)
I mean... No lie! IT'S TRUE!!! The "MCU" did kinda go downhill for a bit there (especially after the Disney merger and buyout, and also Stan Lee's death; RIP Stan Lee. They should of just ended right there with _Endgame_ and Mister Lee's death instead of milking it EVERY SINGLE BIT OUT OF IT.)
"Sadly, our story is not going to be about the fun side of the internet tonight."
Damn. Still waiting for the episode of LWT where it's just cat videos.
probably gonna be a web exclusive...
like the octopodes one.
He did an episode for cats, so there's that one.
India has the highest amount of misinformation
@@Marijuanifornia I just love your channel name.what made you choose it??
We won’t get that until full communism is achieved in the USSA.
My family is Vietnamese and my parents out of nowhere started to talk about election fraud, vaccine misinformation...etc and I couldn't figure out why, I was blaming it on Facebook, but now it all makes sense cause I be seeing them watching this "King News" guy a lot
Vietnamese from Vietnam and that “King”guy really is like Alex Jones for Vietnamese. The way he talk is like one of our online carpenter sell-mans here that my father watch, but at least he watch them because they sell carpenter and not misinformation or supplements.
I never understood that why people from other countries care about whether or not an election is fraudulent or not in the US when they don't live in the US.
@@agayweirdo5404 Because we are all conected and USA has a major influence in the World. Russia and and China too but those dont even pretend. USA still makes a façade.
After Trump won, righ wing extremists started to become more prominent here in Portugal. We didnt have a extremist party. Now we have.
@@agayweirdo5404 Because the United States is influential around the world. They happen to be one of the major peace keeping forces, they also provide a lot of money too much in my opinion to countries like Ukraine. They also provide military technology or military assistance to other countries. People take notice of the 7 super powers United States, Russia, and China rank top 3; then Germany, United Kingdom, France, and Japan. Because these countries situations will have world wide effects.
@@agayweirdo5404 since US is a superpower nation, it's important to know who in charge. For example Trump trade war with China kinda beneficial for economy in the South East Asia region but Trump shutdown TPP as well. An unstable US might be good for other superpowers like China, Russia, not really for their allies or nations relies on the balance of world order.
Here in the UK, we prefer our misinformation printed in The Mail or written on a big red bus.
When he summarized the apps i lost it. LOL!!!
“Who is in group chats of over 20 people?” - laughs in large Mexican family 😬🤣
Laughs in pokemon go player in Latin America
Doesnt have to be that large a family though. Im from a medium to smaller sized German family and we get 15 in the group chat on my mums side if both sides are closer (and everyone has a phone) youd reach 30 easily especially if you put in more than core family (2nd 3rd 4th cousins) And then there are hobby and school groups in my old class group we are still 80 people. Dance group reaches 20 as well pretty quickly. Ive got loads of big groups for some reason (well Ive already got two just for work bit still)
Any hobby group will become 20 people large.
Laughs in visitor of an illegal rave in the woods
Laughs in groups for uni classes
"Our aunties and uncles have PhDs in science but that's no match to Whatsapp" haha so true, sadly. This entire episode summarizes why I left the app a couple of years ago.
Don't feel bad, this is a universal phenomenon. My 88 year old father was a pharmaceutical research scientist. He doesn't fall for the Covid conspiracy BS, but there are plenty of examples outside of his field of expertise that he gets convinced of.
What does a phd in science have to do with anything? I just shows you know smart people that are brainwashed just like you.
@@stevepowell6503 facts are facts and maybe you dont know all the facts. You know why? Because they want you too believe them and nobody else you are easily controlled that way,! He same way the German citizens were controlled. Perfect slave just doing as your told. Pointing your finger and passing judgement without even understanding the argument.
@@seedplanter7173 since I didn't state my personal opinion other than stating that Covid is real, that seems like quite a diagnosis of me as a person.
@@stevepowell6503 Don't feed the troll, he's just looking for people to argue with and call "slaves" and "brainwashed" to make himself feel big.
(I don't feel bad btw, leaving Whatsapp was one of the best things I've done. There's lots of other ways to keep in touch with family members)
I left all family whatsapp groups, but am now tempted to rejoin just to share those good morning videos and GIFs!
7:55 This hit close to home as a Mexican American whose mom is constantly forwarding these to them everyday
It’s frustrating because I have older, educated relatives who continue to fall for this bs, trying these insane diets and refusing medical treatments because a person wearing a lab coat quoted some studies out of context.
That’s another thing.
People think that the misinformation they read is real because of quote mining from real scientific sources, scientists and books.
like they take a sentence from an entire page or speech, and misrepresent it, to fool people for their own gain usually.
You're not alone and I think it's one of the main points of frustration in younger generations dealing with older loved ones who fall for this. Like, you went to collage, heck you taught at collage, no that video isn't legitimate come on you're smarter than this!!
I guess I want to understand it both to better address it, and also to see where I might end up in the case that I'm lucky enough to reach their age.
@@zeroelus If you want to better understand it, try doing the research from all aspects and not just one. Then you can at least try and counter a point they may be trying to make. If you only come at it from one view, you will not understand what it is they are seeing and hearing. This is why labeling things as misinformation is very dangerous. A differing opinion does not always make it wrong. If we silence all differing opinions, then we have failed.
@@RSAgility What's an example of that?
@@RSAgility happens in religion quite a lot
I know English is not the focus here, but hearing a 20 minute piece about misinformation and not hearing Donald Trump’s name said a single time, not even for a joke, is incredibly refreshing.
But he did, he said trumps name in this episode
@And Sk Yeah he was a President that some people think didn't do a good enough job. That's not the same as "living rent free", it's called being held accountable.The phrase Living rent free applies more to pop stars and such
Well, back in 2010 I heard pastors promoting ginger as a cure for AIDS .... along with some paid prayers.
Misinformation is not a new thing 🪴
Rump only "legalized" it ....
@And Sk I’m a historian, that’s kind of my job to remember him
Funny how any kind of news video talking about misinformation shuts down their comment section, because they don't want the "misinformation" to actually make more sense
burn it , BURN IT WITH ALL THE FIRE!!!!!! IM like this in the morning, even im like maybe i should change.....lol
I'm an Indian, and this segment about Good Morning messages, which we forward it to literally everyone, is clearly one of the best segments I've seen so far.
As someone living in Mexico, boy am I glad almost none of my older relatives have an active Facebook account. Basically most of them use it for sharing silly memes, something that definitely falls into the fun side of the internet.
As another person living in México, I second this opinion
your aunts share minions and tweety memes on facebook too?
Brexit and Trumpism came about through Facebook memes thanks to Cambridge Analytica. Memes aren’t always harmless.
I agree. We should hand control of all information to a central authority, and shut down all risky sources of information. That will surely work.
@@arturoluna475 You managed to miss the entire point of the video and comment. Good job.
Germany got its very own kind of misinformation with a renowned professor seriously answering the question if ginger or lemon works better against the Corona virus in one of the world's biggest tabloids...
I want those good morning messages so bad😂
My god I've waited so long for someone to articulate exactly how painful it is to constantly quell the bullshit
You quell bad speech with good speech.
If you are failing to persuade people to your position, then make your position stronger. Don’t grab their tongue out of their mouth.
@@derekbrumbaugh6444 couldn't have said it better myself.
@@derekbrumbaugh6444 Not everyone is as receptive to "good speech" though. Yes, let's all take the high road and that is the right road to take but the high road is a literal uphill struggle. While I don't believe in censorship in any form I do think we shouldn't promote lies. It's a double-edged sword mate. Not one you can wish away with a solid point of view.
Please, please, PLEASE make this into a bunch of different languages so that this can be shared.
Even just captions would be helpful!
Yeah it's kind of hypocritical isn't it? 😂
There is at least one speaker for almost all languages sitting somewhere in the United States. If the US invested even a fraction of their military's budget into searching translators for every language, there'd be 1000 caption languages for this video.
Bump.
@@ciaoitalo well dubbing and subbing takes time.
these morning messages are so crazy LOL my Romanian grandma loves them
As someone whos been studying multiple languages for several years (Turkish, Korean, Russian, and Gaelic), and dreams of being a polyglot, this video definitely inspires me to help translate reputable sources into other languages for people. Holy shit. 🙏❤️
It seems like that's actually a really good idea for a side hustle, maybe you could eventually ask news companies if you could translate their articles.
I usually don't comment much, but John Oliver"s "Grow up!" delivery and timing deserves all the praise in the world.
So brilliant
I wasn't even sure what the crowd's problem was, but that was perfectly on beat.
**I recommend the John Oliver show,, to everyone I know!!!! He is brilliant,, and so relevant!!!! The man is performing a great public service,,, educating the masses!!!!!**
Would love to see him cover the situation in Germany. Great analysis on what a post-Merkel Germany will look like: th-cam.com/video/UtH2V64jUOw/w-d-xo.html&ab_channel=MyTake
That was indeed a wonderful moment!
This is by far the most relatable story I’ve seen in quite some time. Every segment felt like you met my family and countrymen. My family is literally falling apart because of these videos and messages. So bazar and frustrating and getting worse by the day. A family member just decided to dissolve a WhatsApp group that she put together for an upcoming wedding, because it is being inundated with conspiracy theory videos and messages by family members.
Did the wedding get cancelled?
Aww, that sucks!
Minor correction: bazar means “market”, I would assume you meant “bizarre” (strange).
@@pokemagetech smooth
Genuine question...do you think the answer is for these messaging apps to be censored? To me, it feels like a huge overreach of the government or private enterprise to step in and silence that auntie that spreads conspiracy theories. Maybe making a family decision to delete the group would be more appropriate...
That's the trick. This is a crack down on speech and don't fall for it.
Shout-outs to all my fellow Vietnamese, somehow I knew he was going to bring up my people
I was working on the automated fact-checking problem for about 3 years, what I have noticed is that using fully automated fact-checking technologies is almost impossible because who would trust a softwares decision without giving appropriate justification. Therefore, the bottleneck is to find appropriate justification to the veracity of the claims made which is a very difficult and tedious task. You need to trust someone as a reference but that is simply not available in all languages due to many reasons (e.g., media censorship, etc.). This problem is too huge and difficult that I highly doubt it will be fixed in the next few years, it will probably take decades to develop automated or semi-automated methods that can help battle misinformation.
As a Brazilian I can say that I get tons of such messages. People don't even read it all. Just the headlines and forward it. That is how Bolsonaro managed to become the president. Otherwise he wouldn't have a chance!
Trump won with the way, people just read the headlines of Hillary Clinton and just assumed it was true.
Funny how it was Bolsonaro's rival who got charged with improper campaigning over social media... If it weren't for Lula pillaging the country, and Dilma destroying it, would have been an easy win for them... But yeah, sure, WhatsApp misinformation hahaha right....
Also it's important to point out that most phone companies gives free acess to Facebook and WhatsApp.
So, you can acess and spread misinformation for free, while you have to pay for a conection in order to fact-check it.
In India too, the right wing tapped social media to rise to victory. It isn't a surprise that right wing politics is gaining popularity around the globe.
@@gooseling1995 you still defending the dude who has called COVID a hoax and called dark skinned people criminals?
Oh the number of times I've had to debunk absolutely garbage claims, even by qualified people like doctors (yes!!!), is terrifying! As a PhD in Chemistry, I consider it my obligation to read up about chemical names that people immediately find credible and fact check their 'effects'. I am what you call a "party pooper" in a lot of Whatsapp University Misinformation Parties (and I wear that ugly crown with pride)!
You're doing god's work. :)
my uncle was math professor but belive in such trash so i feel the same way
When it comes to medicine, docs are king - but they are absolutely terrible at being Dunning-Kruger personified in arenas outside of it. Telling a doctor they're wrong about something like computer networking is a nightmarish Sisyphean task, so kudos to you for fighting the good fight.
the problem is that it's exhausting, and it doesn't really matter, your qualifications or what you say. The meme is correct and you are wrong. lol.
@@Mehwhatevr This is another problem - discourse has fallen to the level of memes. If it's a meme, then it must be laughed at and whatever misinformation it is peddling must be true.
I wish I lived in a society where people sent each other good morning videos
Damn john, you hit the nail on the head with this one.
-Fellow Indian
At least 80% of the political "news" my family shares with me is easily debunked with two minutes of googling, and we're English speaking. It's insane how otherwise intelligent people just go along with this shit.
CNN knew that trump/russia was a big nothing burger at least in mid 2017 - but never told their viewers....
Problem is even if it takes a few seconds and logical thinking to realize the “news” is garbage people aren’t that smart. And if you try to explain it people dig in more on the false beliefs.
Welcome to the downfall of human civilization, misinformation.
Because they don't trust people anymore the world is so fucking full of bullshit "news".
How do you think Fox Entertainment News has so many viewers?
@@CONEHEADDK The same way that fox knows there’s no substantial evidence for voter fraud that could’ve changed the election, but theyre still pushing it anyways. That’s what happens when you have political leaning news networks. CNN, Fox, all the same shit
As a Vietnamese living in Vietnam, it is extremely difficult to convince an old conservative person that considers young people's ideas are stupid or communist influence. I must emphasize wearing a damn mask is a health problem, not a political one.
Same in the US. Trump openly made mask political and his mouth pieces repeated it daily. So its really hard to tell conservatives here to take it seriously.
Excuse my rudeness, but isn’t Vietnam a communist state? And isn’t the conservative people would be more communist originated? And lastly didn’t the old Vietnamese fought for the Viet Cong?
Sky Lance - hahaha, yes! His comments needs FACT CHECKING! Lol 😂 🤣
Isn’t Vietnam a communist state?
I can't believe the left is attacking private messaging now.... unbelievable... you kids just eat their globalist authoritarianism right up... yal are just lining up to hand over every right you have... this entire video is about not allowing you to speak to another person without you both being monitored and censored... I can't believe the left is attacking private messaging now.... unbelievable... and you kids think this shit is "progressive"... Its a simple concept.. The left are globalist elitist authoritarians who believe their should be a one world gov and currency.. their goal is to expand the welfare and gov states to every person on the planet.. Growth and expansion of government and distribution.. that's it on the left.. there is no ideology, no platform.. the only goal is oppose the opposition, the left brings no ideas or progress to the table.. The right are conservatives that believe in the power of the individual and ones ability to capitalize on opportunity in a free market.. Less government, less federalization, more power and funding to local and smaller governments that can form to the communities that make them up.... Left is federalism and then globalism.. Right is capitalism and individual liberty with focus on merit and charity.. Not affirmative action and tax.. This is why young liberals are dismissed.. yal have never read a page of Plato's the Republic... Why should anyone trying to maintain one listen to a liberal brainwashed kid... taught by other liberal brainwashed kids who have never done anything with their lives but come back to high school and feel good about themselves teaching kids with comparable intelligences to themselves... If this wasn't the case every one of your teachers wouldn't be a liberal whos never ran a business or paid someone elses health insurance...
You know who was a victim of misinformation? Harambe. Rest in peace, king.
Anyone else remember when our parents told us "Don't believe everything you read on the internet."? But somehow 10-20 years later, everyone has forgotten that they ever said or heard it.