The ironic thing is, her dropping her armor shows disrespect towards her father, the person she cares enough about to go to war for. That armor was her fathers, yet she just leaves it in the mud like it means nothing to her. Just another way the modern one somehow manages to screw up everything, even the virtues they supposedly show in the movie (loyalty, etc.)
Damn I was just focused on the stupidity of the fact that she was running into battle with NO armor on... I completely forgot it was her dad’s lmao that makes it 11x worse
As a martial artist with long hair, I can confirm: letting your hair down in the middle of a fight sucks, not just because it gets everywhere, but if you turn fast enough, that shit be slapping you in the eyes.
Partially why I cut a good portion of my hair off during quarantine... You don't want to give people the opportunity to grab you by the hair and slit your throat. I live in a neighborhood where that could actually happen too so...
You know, it's hard for me: Normally, i would seperate the actual Movie 'Mulan' from the Real Life. Look at them seperately. But this... THIS is just an extreme case and i dont know how to do it here. All this is so insane. The Movie is full of Cringe, Fake-Feminism and Plot Holes - yet, the Real Life has way crazier problems and I'm starting to think China is so off-track from the rest of humanity that some Nation should - no kidding - invade China and take over, so the Supression ends... Or something like this! I know this normally isnt right, but... i believe there is a 'Point' where such a thing is justified. Of course this point is by no means easy to reach, but... it's possible to reach, you know? Oh, i don't know.
Mulan (1998) also has one of the most unforgiving and sudden mood shifts of any movie i’ve ever seen. In the scene where the army is singing and having a good time as they march to meet up with the rest of their forces we an abrupt stop, and are shown a village that was burned down. We go from joyful and happy soldiers singing to just the complete opposite as they walk through the ruins of the village. The score goes from upbeat to depressing in a matter of seconds. They completely massacred this scene in the remake.
That scene is one of the most powerful scenes in the whole movie, in my opinion. Especially since they’re singing the goofy song, then it immediately gets cut off as they find the little girl’s burned up doll. It did such a good job showing the horrors of war just by showing that one doll.
And that mood whiplash allows them to drive home the horror of war without being too explicit for a children's movie, while for older audiences the inferred horror becomes even more terrible. It's an amazing scene in a great movie.
@@mayvalley Worst thing is we the audience already saw that doll before! I forgot his name, but the main antagonist of the original Mulan got that doll after his pet bird brought it to him. After his men inspected that doll he told them "The little girl misses his doll. We should return it to her.". I saw both scenes on TH-cam a few weeks ago in the right order and my expression went from ._. to 0-0 back to ._. after my brain told me 'Just act natural' because I got called down for something
The point of Mulan is that she ISN’T naturally strong. She ISN’T naturally gifted in martial arts and fighting. She ISN’T special. But, she’s incredibly smart, incredibly brave, she worked hard to become a skilled warrior, and she does what’s right, even when she’s scared or thinks she’s not able to do it. I dunno how they managed to fuck that up.
Vegetarian Soylent Green right! She wasn’t born special, what made her special were the decisions she made and the actions she took. The point is, ANY woman could be Mulan if they have the courage in their hearts. You don’t have to be “special”. In the 2020 movie, Mulan is an exception. She’s NOT just like any other woman. So basically, the movie says that a woman has to be born with special powers in order to be on par with her male counterparts, which is bullshit and goes against the original message!
Reasons why this movie is worse than the cartoon: 1. They took out “make a man out of you” 2. It’s made by modern Disney 3. They took out “make a man out of you”
I really hate that disney's response to people wanting strong female characters is literally make all their female characters physically stronger. We want compelling female characters who feel like their own person and whose character arc does not revolve around the men in her life, not a human nuke who can melt space ships and oh yeah also happens to be a woman.
I mean do we? There is already enough representation in media now. I'm not saying that representation is bad, nay, I encourage it, but is there not enough empowerment? And also BTW a woman character's personality shouldn't just be woman, it should be a well written character with personality who happens to be a woman. Representation doesn't mean you can't show their flaws and stuff.
I think that it needs to be a mix of both. Female characters shouldn’t have to be made more stereotypically masculine to be strong characters, but women can also be physically strong. But when it comes to these strong women in movies they always seem to choose one or the other. How about a head strong, with a more petite woman or a compassionate but more physically built woman?
Disney seems like they haven’t realized that we don’t actually want “strong female characters.” We want strong characters that just happen to be female. “Strong female characters” aren’t compelling because that’s literally their entire character. Strong characters that just happen to be female have to have other things going for them to be interesting, relatable, or admirable.
Spoods Noodle Doodles I actually kind of liked Rey in Force Awakens and Last Jedi, not gonna lie. Captain Marvel though. Yeah. She’s overall just a big “meh” for me.
@@melfree2545 Rey was fine until TROS imo, she had struggles, pains and a somewhat aggressive personality that was coming through especially in TLJ, she was not perfect in everything she did but still managed to make it work, and had a "pRoBlEmAtIc" potential love interest, which I liked. Then they made her Super Saiyan One Punch Ninja Womyn Who Don't Need No Man with glorious bloodline in some failed attempt to cater to Reddit's hurt feefees in the last movie, only reinforcing the Mary Sue argument idiots were already ranting about and they lost me there. There was literally no character exploration in that movie. Cap Marvel is uh.......flat....in all senses of the word lol
LadyKraken I agree. I know this is kinda controversial but I really, really liked TLJ. Rey was a big part of why. I hated TROS so much I mostly pretend it doesn’t exist.
Good thing Disney said that they approve of EA's model during the height of the paywall for the battlefront games while renewing EA's license to the franchise as the sole game creators for Star Wars
Basically it's just bs to make the movie sellable to people in China. All they care about it money. And as with Blizzard and the NBA, we'll lose our freedoms through companies because they somehow aren't subject to our laws
Witches are more of a westernized type of villain as well as superpowers, chi to chinese is your life force not some magic power. So many of these ideas are not even chinese but westernized from hollywood.
Also basically said that you have to be a 'chosen one' or have 'special powers' just to be good at something, while the original said that anybody can be anything if they are determined. Honestly, Disney doesn't even care about their own work now.
I don’t think turning Mulan into a Wuxia story is inherently a bad idea, in fact it sorta works, but the people who wrote this movie fundamentally don’t understand Wuxia as a genre. One of the core principles of the Wuxia Genre is that birth and natural talent is secondary to hard work and training, it doesn’t matter if you’re a man or woman, the Emperor or a peasant, if you put in the effort you can achieve great things, Mulan 2020 is the antithesis of the Genre it’s trying to emulate.
I was gonna come here to comment pretty much this and you took the words right out of my mouth! Yeah, a Mulan movie with Wuxia elements could be fun and awesome, but sadly these people didn't understand the genre...
It's such a simple fix, too. Just make it so every character has chi powers, and most of the army and antagonists are stronger than Mulan. If you want it to not be about gender, make it so many members of the army are female but have extremely strong qi, and Mulan simply doesn't. (If you wanted to maintain the whole Mulan crossdress plot just make the women their own division that Mulan can't join because they're ridiculously powerful, which is why they were allowed in the army despite being women) Then all you have to do is revolve the plot around Mulan using wit and hard work to outdo/keep up with those around her and boom. She's back to being similar to the better Mulan without losing the wuxia elements.
The original movie: women are just as strong as men and there's strength in both masculinity and femininity. This trainwreck: women can maybe catch up with men if they have superpowers, otherwise stay on your lane and give me sons
in the original movie the message was that she wasn't stronger, but better because she was smart, this was a powerful message from Disney to keep conflict with gender 'war' to be peaceful not continuous. meaning as if she was smarter than the other men she could potentially be better. in the remake, they made her some powerful overtaking woman who could defeat men because of her chi; this escalates feminists to resume their conflict of being "more powerful than men." therefore creating a conflict of men hating women for their 'feminism' more and continuously. In conclusion people hate this movie because ITS FULL OF SHIT THAT NO ONE CARES, NOT EVEN WOMEN
@@comedicpsychnerd no, they're saying that now you can't just give a message metaphorically, you just have to present the message as it is, so that people don't get angry for misinterpreting it.
Disney: gets rid of Mushu to make the movie more "realistic" Also Disney: puts in a bunch of bs superpowers and thanks the ccp for using an internment camp. Wow... Edit: Watching this again, while I can see why they would remove the comedy relief characters for a more serious tone and to respect the culture, what about the pheonix? I thought that was part of Greek mythology. Am I missing something?
I think the ultimate problem with Disney is they lack a strong artistic core. They’re making these movies by committee. Disney and Pixar were their best when they had a creative director who understood what makes stories good. These movies have gotten so big and expensive that they have too many hands on them, they won’t trust their creatives.
Except Uighur wasn’t anywhere near the Milan saga in history. At the time of Mulan the Uyghur didn’t even come onto historical scene yet. Also exactly why does everyone treat Uyghurs being entitled to xinjiang when it is a multiethnic region and Han was there literally thousand year before Uyghur? Also the whole oppression thing, the delegation from UN found no wrong doing in their investigation in the region. So show some proof like Guantanamo before starting the accusation. Otherwise, it will just be another scenario similar to US invasion of Iraq over weapon of mass destruction.
@@frownyclowny6955 and you are based this assumption on? Realize that nowadays everyone with a phone is a journalist not to mention overhead satellites, there is surprisingly little supporting evidence. Since we are in an anti-china trade war, how convenient it is that media is accusing China of such thing much like how Iraq “had” weapon of mass destruction. But you know what amounted to massive death? Situation in Iraq and Afghanistan in the last 20 years, anyone looking into the situation of those Muslims? Bro?
@@Commonlogicguy the video literally describes how this has been happening long before phones even fucking existed. Nobodies trying to invade China on the false basis of nuclear arms either. Also the suffering of one group does not invalidated the suffering of another. Your name is the most ironic thing on the planet
@@frownyclowny6955 Sure, it does not invalidate. At the same time, this is just hypocritical of the western media constantly shinning a light on China while ignoring their own wrong doings. All of those tragedies inAfrica? Plight of all the natives in Australia and America? Those are the things the western government can actually controls yet, they are going for china not for invasion but simply bargaining chip in a trade war. So as they say, glass house and stones right. Oh I am logical, just all logic comes from certain perspective. Just happened where I am coming from is not where you are coming from, that is all.
And Kung Fu Panda is accurate to Chinese culture that when it was released in theaters for the first time, the Chinese were like: "Why wasn't this movie made here in China? Why didn't we make this film?"
That whole trilogy of movies was surprisingly good. Dreamworks sometimes just hits it out of the park and gives old school Disney a run for their money.
@@RED_Theory038 at this rate dreamworks may be the new old disney. Disney studios is digging themselves a deeper and deeper hole. And I am a super disney nerd saying this!
mann kung fu panda is lit! Po was actually working hard for his 'chi', while mulan is just... i don't know... because she is just mulan, a main character, who has to be super strong for no reason lol.. i cringe so much watching her as a kid jumping like crazy like what is she?? a mutant? XD
I miss animated movies that aren't made in the usual "Doll with huge eyes" Pixar 3d style. That's why Into the Spider-verse was such a breath of fresh air. The animation is sooo beautiful and original
camaro rider My opinion of Disney has gone downhill since they worked on the new Star Wars trilogy. These new “live action” movies were just icing on the cake. Not to mention their corporate bs.
It's Pitiful this Trash is controversal when it's just one thing: Trash. It's insulting the Source Material a dozen times over, directly, indirectly, and directly-indirectly. Making Mulan JUST A CHOSEN ONE is an Insult. Plot Holes, Fake-Feminism and Plot Holes - is what i say about this Movie!!! Damn, it's so bad and yet people dont see that.
@@oakleyraverty1030 Yeah I heard that too. But it's still really unethical that they spent any time near those concentration camps. It is true though that the majority of the film was filmed in New Zealand.
Max speed. May deal negative damage but hey she quicc even though she didint use that to her advantage for some reason (probably too much work for disney)
@@Justalilsilly armor isn’t that slowing. It can tire you out depending on weight but generally it shouldn’t be too restricting. Of course no armor is less restrictive but to go into a battlefield and taking off your protection? That’s just flat out stupid. Just wearing clothes offers a lot more protection than being naked let alone having proper armor
All these "pro woman" and feminist empowering movies are the absolute complete opposite of what they're trying to "achieve". I'm tired of it as a woman. I love Mulan as a kid, I saw her work hard and train to be strong, she wasn't good at the start, she sucked but she kept trying and trying. She was a problem solver, she probably couldn't win against the strongest Hun warriors but she figured out ways to keep them away by problem solving and she also taught men that's it's okay to be feminised even if it's for war. Just... They failed so much.
As Cynical CJ put it in his review of Mulan 2020 (great channel; well worth checking out) filming Mulan in Xinjiang and thanking the Chinese agency running the camps for their help would be like "filming a movie down the road from Auschwitz and giving a shout-out to the SS". It's absolutely gob-smacking that Disney could have done this. Yet here we are.
Disney: we don’t want to appeal to our OG Mulan audience, let’s try to appeal to Chinese audience with bare bones cultural research and zero effort. Oh no neither groups likes the movie????
nah you had your moment. This isn't the 90s anymore. Unlike most people who are mad that the movie is not identical to the original movie, in my opinion it's a great movie and I highly recommend you all to watch it. It's $40, and that's much cheaper for 4 people going to see it at cinemas. Just please, set your criticism aside and enjoy it.
FallenAngel We’re not mad that it isn’t identical to the original cartoon version. We’re just saying it’s a disgrace to the message it was supposed to send. Now little girls in this generation are possibly gonna watch this 2020 Mulan film as the original Mulan film and it’s gonna tell them that they’ll always be one step behind men unless they have a naturally born superpower/gift. Mulan is literally about portraying women empowerment. If you don’t care about that and just care about the making of the film in itself, then ur missing the whole point of the film. If this 2020 Mulan film WASN’T identical to the original but still managed to send a message about women empowerment, we, the audience, wouldn’t be complaining. But it didn’t, so it’s why we’re criticizing. I mean, I guess it’s a good film if you only wanna see action and fighting.
@@jellyfishi_ Trust me, I don't understand it too (and I'm bi). A lot of fans are very much into making everything gay. It pisses me off because I'm friends with straight guys who don't even act close to their male friends anymore because they didn't want to be labelled gay. Most of those fans are straight girls who fetishize gay men, it's disgusting. Some do it because they want representation, which is odd because an unconfirmed bisexual character isn't representation at all.
@@jellyfishi_ He's not, they just desperately latch onto anything they can. Shang who respected Ping responded to him MUCH DIFFERENTLY than Shang who was interested in Mulan. This isn't rocket science, they just want to delude themselves.
So they took out Mushu because they wanted a more grounded, less supernatural movie. Buttttt they have a witch and and Mulan has chi powers...right.... Disney logic
Actually I heard they took out Mushu because a few Chinese people found Mushu to be somewhat insulting in a way. Which is ironic because Disney ended up being more insulting to China.
@@linkingglagoon8254 I have this idea where Mushu is a dragon reluctantly bound to a human form and forced to oversee Mulan's safety by order of the heavenly court.
I think Disney and other big corporations like TH-cam are just completely ignorant to what people want and in the pursuit of making things "advertiser friendly" end up making everything hundred times worse
I know this is for China but did anyone else get pissed off when she toss her father precious armor into the dirt like it was trash due to her selfish suicidal need for chi.
The new remake kinda simbolizes blEh fUcK pAtriarchY by tossing off father's armor. Typical woke disney. They don't really care much about plot progression or anything like that.
DunklerJägerZach and funny enough it’s not very chinese. Chinese respect family above all else that’s why Mulan is such a powerful story because it’s about a daughter and her fight for her father in times where chinese daughters weren’t very much appreciated.
chungus Yeah, she may have been discounted as a woman, but that is her FATHER that they’re conscripting for war. He will DIE. It’s filial piety and love that compels her to secretly enlist in his place. It’s like Disney didn’t watch its own film.
Thank you for speaking up about Xinjiang. I am Chinese, and I firmly believe the CCP is the worst thing happening to my country. By the way, the lead actress in the earlier Mulan movie that you mentioned, Zhaowei, has been "disappeared" for more than a year.
It's also sad how the current Mulan actress went out of her way to say she stands with the Hong Kong Police because theirs nothing more empowering to women or anyone else than supporting a Communist state in the midst of repressing it's people. The Same Communist Government that during it's One China Policy forced tens of thousands of women to have abortions and the vast majority of aborted or post live birth murders were girls who could have grown up to be remarkable women but were instead snuffed out in favor of sons because the Communist State demanded it.
Sometimes to me it's not clear if Chinese actors "support" the government because they really like it or because they don't want to, you know, disappear or whatever else China does to people who oppose them (and being a public figure makes it even harder to go against it because if they survey regular folk, they definitely keep all the tabs on their celebs and what they are saying). Not defending the main actress, because hey what she said was shifty, but sometimes I wonder how much of those words are genuine and how much is just being afraid of something happening to you or your family.
Well the movie is about a woman supporting an Empire that oppresed people in the great wall. Now is a movie about a woman supporting the Empire oppres the xiognu . Played by an actress that supports an Empire oppresing minorities. So I Say is pretty much spot on
FINALLY someone said it. The CGI/Editing is soooo bad. Like when Mulan is on the horse, It's almost like that meme of Mary Jane holding onto a fake spiderman.
In the 1998 mulan, shan yu was awesome. His character was freaking cool looking, he was a menace and a huge threat, his voice worked great with the character. Just the "boo" when he's hanging from the roof, just a great villan. The live action butchered it because he doesn't even feel like a threat, it feels like he isn't even dangeous without the witch. In the live action he's seemingly useless on hiss own, considered he was beaten by mulan instantly.
Wanna know even more irony? "Witch" isn't even character in Chinese myth. No, seriously. Usually they have bad spirits for bad magical character ( Like Empress Daji Myth). Basically they insert European character for Chinese setting movie.
It shouldn't matter tbh, sure the movie has a lot of problems, and is pretty shit overall. But disliking it because the actress supports something you dont? Kinda gay.
Joey Ryan Theres so many things wrong with your comment. It’s not just a “disagreement”, people are in concentration camps and she literally came out and supported that. It’s not like saying you won’t support someone bc they prefer chocolate ice cream over vanilla, people are being murdered. Also, gay isn’t an insult.
@@zr5581 So? The movie has nothing to do with it, thats my point. Its like when people were pissed at Blizzard and decided to boycott them by not playing World of warcraft. Congratulations, by not playing a game you're helping those being oppressed in china. People love to say somethings bad and they don't condone it, but do fuck all about it.
@@anyalaASMR Louis Ck has the perfect bit about calling things gay, it is an insult when describing certain things. Like being upset about this movie just because the actress defended her home countries actions.
Also love how Disney said they were removing the music and fantasy elements like Mushu to make it grounded. Only to then include super-chi, a phoenix, a shapeshifting witch, etc.
To make it worse, the movie is filled with orientalism. The whole "chi" thing is incredibly misrepresented and they could have fixed it just by calling it "cultivation" instead. There are no witches in Chinese mythology, but spirits that can transform from birds to humans and shape-shift are a thing and considered evil. The clothing the characters are wearing are strange, low quality mutations of Chinese clothes, visualising this movies orientalism right in front of our eyes. It's so painfully obvious they didn't have anyone that knew anything about anything Chinese to help them make this movie, yet they expected the Chinese audiences to like it?
Kung Fu Panda was more respectful to Chinese culture than this film. Disney has all this fucking money. It is 2020, HOW are we still doing the whole “didn’t bother to ask, just made it up from memory” method of depicting foreign cultures? Seriously!!
@I am rad I’m not crying. I agree that the current execs need to literally die a horrible death, but the company as a whole shouldn’t shut down. It will cause millions to lose their jobs. Probably hard for you to understand because you don’t have a family. The only one crying here is you with that over the top response.
You can’t show that both the bad guy and Mulan are able to dodge arrows and then act like she is in any threat from an arrow, needing the sacrifice of the witch.
They take away -the comedy -interesting side characters -character development -an ACTUAL love interest -overcoming odds with smarts And they thought this would be a good idea??????
They peppered in that sweet, sweet “oh yeah let’s film near concentration camps and thank the administrator of those camps in our credits sequence!” to make matters worse 🤩
@TalesofOrion You give them too much credit, Igor probably figured this would make a lot of money from the name alone. And with Aladdin, Beauty And The Beast, Lion King, and Jungle Book remakes, he has a reason to believe that.
I've noticed a really disappointing theme with movies who center around strong female leads. in a lot of them, in order to make her strong, they will resort to giving her super powers. that *undermines the whole point of empowerment.* like... we aren't supernatural in real life. but we can be strong for who we are, though none of these movies that claim to represent that seem to believe that
I consider it an allegory for natural talent, which I have in some areas. The truth of the matter is, I 100% didn’t work harder than my classmates in the classes where I got top marks. They studied hard to pass, just like I did in my weaker subjects. So I don’t consider it offensive to see a female character being better than men at something without breaking a sweat when I did that at a number of academic competitions in my city. Besides, male protagonists get to be supernaturally good at things all the time; I deserve to think of myself that way too.
Even though the hair cutting scene in the original isn't historically accurate, it still works perfectly as cinematic shorthand. An example Lindsay Ellis once used was in Hercules. When Hercules enters Zeus's temple, he kneels and says a prayer. The historically accurate thing to do would be to sacrifice a goat, but that wouldn't make sense to a modern audience. Shorthand quickly gives information to the audience by using modern cultural knowledge. Mulan's scene succeeds in this shorthand while also being a powerful, cinematic scene that shows Mulan's transformation as well as being a crossing of the threshold that she can't turn back from.
Agreed, the goal doesn't always have to be historical accuracy if you can get the message across. Historical accuracy is good but it's best taken with a grain of "Ok, how is this going to be interpreted by the people watching this and are they going to me mega confused".
@@MC-tl5bf Hercules kills a goat in honor of Zeus. Zeus suddenly has three orgasms at once inside a non-consenting mortal woman because most of Greece's problems boiled down to Zeus and Olympian Gods not being able to resist having their way with mortal women.
The hair cutting scene in the animated movie represents her embracing change, representing a new beginning, a new her. She embraced her new self she was going to have to be to join the army, before she had to, knowing she would have to develop as a person and face challenges she hadn't had before, that's why she cut her hair. Not because it would help disguise her/make her more masculine, because, like Elvis Alien said, men had long hair in early China, so she could've kept her hair, but didn't, to embrace change and her new future self, and let go of who she was before.
later the emperor gave her a new sword with a new 4th virtue and it's "Devotion to family". Kinda sounds like he's telling her to stay the fuck home, get married and have kids lol (I get it that they mean differently, probably? But it's a lame thing to put on the sword of a warrior lol)
@@vanessapham6914 it was just a bad job done on disney's part.. its supposed to mean fidial peity i think. in chinese culture its essentially showing respect and honor to our family. there isnt really an english translation that can capture what it really means.
@@cait3196 Yeah I think that's what they want it to convey. But since in the US for example, people can interpret it differently. Also, idk but in the movie they didn't show her being too devoted to the family and all that. It didn't show clearly that she went to war for her father's sake like in the animation. It seems more like she just want to fight. She didn't show much struggles during training either and seems very at home with the military, so... there wasn't anything she had to overcome for family honor. It's just... not clear what family devotion she showed that deserved to be added to the sword
Disney: we want to make Mu Lan more realistic so we’re removing every fun aspect of the original Also Disney: Mu Lan is now a natural Chi master from birth and phoenixes exist now
The end of “Make a man out of you” where Mulan is climbing the post to reach the arrow as the sun rises is one of the most powerful scenes in Disney history and it gives me chills every time AND THEY CUT IT FROM THE MOVIE!? That was the moment i lost all hope entirely for this dumpster fire of a movie
Dude, Disney charging 30 dollars to watch their film at home is pathetic money grabbing. Really bad. And then they're surprised when people pirate their sh!t. lol.
I like to imagine that in the end, the villain catches the arrow again, and he shoots it back at the emperor, and the emperor throw it back up for Mulan to kick it at the villain, and it’s just an endless cycle until somebody gives up
14:43 If that throwing star thingy was thrown with enough force to send Mulan flying backwards it should’ve penetrated her body and exited out her back akin to a very powerful bullet (or cannon ball since even bullets realistically don’t send you flying). Neither armour nor tiddy-binder would’ve saved her.
Well, at the end of the original, she also doesn't have neither her dad's sword or the armor, but it's not as impactful or important bc the 2020 version spends a lot of time setting up the sword as something very important for both the father and mulan, and then they just destroy it lol lmao
My favorite thing about this video is that when he starts talking about the animated Mulan there's nice ancient Chinese music playing. And when he starts talking about the remake some goofy royalty free music plays
I do not like commenting on videos publicly but as an Uyghur person with family in the camps thank you for talking about what is happening to us. You did so better than many politicians, reporters, and more political youtubers I have seen. From the bottom of my heart, thank you so much for defending us.
I’m so sorry about what’s happening to your people. I hope that your family in the camps are safe- or as safe as they possibly could be. I hope that everything will soon turn out better. ❤️
According to my friend from China, at the end where the emperor says “loyalty to family” is the last perk, it’s essentially saying, “Thank you, now go back to the kitchen”
No it's not. The word is badly translated - it should be "filial piety", which is one of the most important virtues in Chinese culture for both men and women. The reason Mulan's story is so culturally significant is because she is the epitome of filial piety, by risking her life to take her father's place in the army. Sadly many Chinese parents nowadays take "filial piety" to mean "do your homework and become a doctor/lawyer or I will disown you" lol.
At 17:55 there is also the incredibly crappy and incorrect archery. She let loose CGI arrows with the wrong grip ( Mediterranean instead on thumb draw) from the wrong side of the bow and with an abysmal technique…
I don't even think that company should still bare Disney's name by now. It has become so far removed from the original vision that its creator had for it that it is utterly unrecognizable and would be hard-pressed to yield any quality content that even remotely feels like an actual ''Disney Movie'', such as the ones we grew up with and loved so much. So in the mean time, I suggest you just do what I do : Stick with the original, timeless Classics. They never get old.
and the 2009 one further emphasizes that Mulan can be portrayed as super talented and badass from the beginning too if it is well executed with emotional struggle and development of the main character.
Birb Witch: can summon a swarm of birds for scouting and harassment Birb Witch: doesn't do that when taking the arrow for Mulan, thus saving herself and Mulan
@@sammy2758 I'm not sure if it technically counts as a remake, but both of the new Maleficent movies are actually pretty good. Debatable as to whether or not they're remakes though since they actually change the events of the story and spice it up more than just a 1 to 1 retelling of sleeping beauty.
@@sammy2758 Agreed, Aladdin is fun to watch with friends when you're drunk. It's not a good movie but they've added interesting new songs and dance numbers. It's alright. Jafar was trash tho in that remake. They did him real bad.
“Desert Goths” is actually perfectly accurate for the people’s being portrayed. There are distinct parallels between the Goths that fought the Romans and these “Desert Goths” fighting the Empire.
I thought dragons are the sign of masculinity, and the remake screws it all. There still has to be some redeeming qualities that would give Mulan 2020 a couple of phoenix downs.
I mean, the Chinese has a phoenix too, fenghuang, which usually represents the empress, a feminine counterpoint to the emperor's dragon. So I guess that's why they made the switch from Mushu dragon to Mulan's spiritual phoenix thingy??? Because she's... a girl?? It still don't make sense cause she isn't the empress or part of the royal family or the emperor's harem or anything, lmao.
@@-saffie-4977 The fenghuang is actually a pheasant. It's not very analogous to the western phoenix, it's more like how the Japanese treat foxes as spiritual creatures with divine power.
They wanted to make the movie more "realistic..." Do the makers of this movie know what realistic means? Because none of that looks anywhere near realistic.
I think the Aladdin remake out-does it on the Bollywood factor. Including two completly out-of-nowhere dance sequences. Disney really loves to disregard cultural accuracy for assuring foregin markets (and failing at it)...
As an Indian, I'd like to tell you that Bollywood movies atleast have some semblance of a plot that makes them *just* about tolerable. Mulan on the other hand....
Exactly. In fact, Kung Fu Panda was such a well made movie of Chinese culture that even China got jealous of the fact that America made a better Chinese movie than them😂
Yeah, I remember the original Mulan. It was great. She won through wit, skill, and tactics, that she learned and trained for, rather than out-manning the men by winning through raw strength gained because she's born magic.
Well, a lot of people bring up animated movies when talking about female protagonists. But, to me, Ellen Ripley from Alien and Aliens is the best female protagonist. My favorite film protagonist of all time.
When you say this only one or two female characters are mentioned. The problem is that Hollywood has ALWAYS made shitty female protagonists and only a handful are any good. The number of great male protagonists will sadly always be higher.
@@FuzzyBunny28 I mean, I hope Hollywood will get over this "We can't have any female character struggle or grow in any way beyond 'Realising they're perfect' or it's sexist." Bullshit mentality, and start getting more women who are written just as well as men tend to be.
@@calemr Honestly, women werent even considered for leading front line roles, or even made fighters in most movies due to old (and sometimes still relevant) sexist views, so the fact that so many end up poorly written when we FINALLY get them is depressing
I watched a Jeep fly off a ramp into a helicopter! I saw a villain dragging a lady off a cliff getting his arm holding her chopped off by a thrown machete! I can believe a robot would take over the world for love and fuvking dance about it! I saw a man wrestle a bull with his bare hands! I saw a palm tree used for a catapult attack I don’t remember what my point was but everyone needs to watch Bollywood pick a 3 a half hour movie find the most serious looking movie the more serious the better and prepare to be confused because usually the hero is a waaaaaaay bigger asshole than the villain and lots of other fun stuff like random music videos with often nothing to do with what just happened I love Bollywood. Oh oh look for the Bollywood “Bruce lee” movie about the stunt man named Bruce lee who is a stunt man for a fat guy wtf and once you’re positive the name is basically a coincidence they start plastering pictures of real bruce lee everywhere!!! But Bollywood rip-off terminator (robot) is better than every terminator movie (not exaggerating actually pretty badass) you probably saw clips of it but you gotta see it’s like a terminator movie made sweet Kama sutra to a Disney film with I love India dumped on top
One thing I'd like to mention: The burned village scene. In the animated film, there aren't any bodies in the village, cause it's pg13, but the movie still shows the tragedy and impact effectively. In this movie, there aren't just bodies in the village, the whole army is WALKING OVER CORPSES. It's comical how many bodies there are. It doesn't automatically make your movie better to have violence, Mulan 2020. It's just uncomfortable.
i remember hearing that if you want to display tragedy, you do it with little things. instead of showing a thousand corpses, that simple little doll was far more effective than that
They literally remove the entire point of her character, she is not suppose to be this...damn ninja god. She used her brain to outsmart her opponents, and yes while she did shown to get better in the training montage but she was never fuckin doing flips and kicking spears back into peoples faces. I could care less about what the actor supports, i am just...confused why they would make all these huge changes to an already beloved animated movie.
It's Pitiful this Trash is controversal when it's just one thing: Trash. It's insulting the Source Material a dozen times over, directly, indirectly, and directly-indirectly. Making Mulan JUST A CHOSEN ONE is an Insult. Plot Holes, Fake-Feminism and Plot Holes - is what i say about this Movie!!! Damn, it's so bad and yet people dont see that.
I saw Mulan Rise of a Warrior a while back, and it's "female" protagonist isn't some Ninja of Legend that just kicks the shit out of everybody, she is just a woman. However she is a woman that takes her licks and perseveres in a man's world. To me that makes that Mulan a much better role-model for women.
holy shit a Trebuchet... Han dynasty was the second imperial dynasty of China (202 BC - 220 AD)... The first recorded use of a trebuchet is in Europe in the 12th century. Who let Biff use the time machine again?
The ironic thing is, her dropping her armor shows disrespect towards her father, the person she cares enough about to go to war for. That armor was her fathers, yet she just leaves it in the mud like it means nothing to her. Just another way the modern one somehow manages to screw up everything, even the virtues they supposedly show in the movie (loyalty, etc.)
I guess she loses everything her father had, huh? She tosses the armor away on the battlefield AND she drops the sword into a vat of molten metal.
The Emperor most certainly doesn't approve
Damn I was just focused on the stupidity of the fact that she was running into battle with NO armor on... I completely forgot it was her dad’s lmao that makes it 11x worse
Mulan : "Oh no! I love you father, I will risk my life to protect you!"
Mulan 30 min later: "Fuck father and all his possessions LMAO"
dweeb draws Such is life in modern Woke Disney
As a martial artist with long hair, I can confirm: letting your hair down in the middle of a fight sucks, not just because it gets everywhere, but if you turn fast enough, that shit be slapping you in the eyes.
Partially why I cut a good portion of my hair off during quarantine... You don't want to give people the opportunity to grab you by the hair and slit your throat. I live in a neighborhood where that could actually happen too so...
honestly!! as a marist artist, i couldn’t go 5 minutes doing martial arts with the my hair down.
My Brand I mean, you’re right but you didn’t really need to be a duck about bro.
@My Brand you put way too much effort into that comment. Go outside, chill, get friends, get a gf, marry, have kids and live a good life.
You know, it's hard for me: Normally, i would seperate the actual Movie 'Mulan' from the Real Life. Look at them seperately.
But this... THIS is just an extreme case and i dont know how to do it here.
All this is so insane.
The Movie is full of Cringe, Fake-Feminism and Plot Holes - yet, the Real Life has way crazier problems and I'm starting to think China is so off-track from the rest of humanity that some Nation should - no kidding - invade China and take over, so the Supression ends... Or something like this!
I know this normally isnt right, but... i believe there is a 'Point' where such a thing is justified. Of course this point is by no means easy to reach, but... it's possible to reach, you know?
Oh, i don't know.
The fact that she's moving in 'slow motion' but the hair on her face is flowing in a normal breeze kills me every time. 😂
Disney has a very good habit of fixing things that aren’t broken
"fixing"
Or at most failing to
fixing?
lazerpie 101, ha...well, to THEM its fixing
They break things that arent broken while trying to fix them.
"dishonor on your script, dishonor on your plot, dishonor on your director!"
-mushu 2020 'gone but not forgotten'
Your statement is gold and I just thought you should know that lol.
DISHONOR!!!!
Dishonor on your cow!!!!!
😂🤣
Dishonor on you cash cow!
“We need to be more realistic, get rid of the dragon and add superpowers, a wizard, a witch, and a phoniex.”
Well, withches area thing these days lmao they went full wOkE
should be the exact opposite!!!
Exactly
Yea nothing like bullshit conveniance to make a movie better
dont forget, they got rid of the song ... cuz "realism"
Mulan (1998) also has one of the most unforgiving and sudden mood shifts of any movie i’ve ever seen. In the scene where the army is singing and having a good time as they march to meet up with the rest of their forces we an abrupt stop, and are shown a village that was burned down. We go from joyful and happy soldiers singing to just the complete opposite as they walk through the ruins of the village. The score goes from upbeat to depressing in a matter of seconds.
They completely massacred this scene in the remake.
That scene is one of the most powerful scenes in the whole movie, in my opinion. Especially since they’re singing the goofy song, then it immediately gets cut off as they find the little girl’s burned up doll. It did such a good job showing the horrors of war just by showing that one doll.
And that mood whiplash allows them to drive home the horror of war without being too explicit for a children's movie, while for older audiences the inferred horror becomes even more terrible.
It's an amazing scene in a great movie.
@@mayvalley Worst thing is we the audience already saw that doll before! I forgot his name, but the main antagonist of the original Mulan got that doll after his pet bird brought it to him. After his men inspected that doll he told them "The little girl misses his doll. We should return it to her.". I saw both scenes on TH-cam a few weeks ago in the right order and my expression went from ._. to 0-0 back to ._. after my brain told me 'Just act natural' because I got called down for something
@@REDFRLegend Considering what ancient warfare was like, the sacking of that town would not have been done gently.
@@REDFRLegend "The little girl misses HIS doll."
It's HIS doll now, not hers, lol.
The point of Mulan is that she ISN’T naturally strong. She ISN’T naturally gifted in martial arts and fighting. She ISN’T special. But, she’s incredibly smart, incredibly brave, she worked hard to become a skilled warrior, and she does what’s right, even when she’s scared or thinks she’s not able to do it. I dunno how they managed to fuck that up.
This!
Exactly, she persevered when all of the odds were against her, she's inspiring for that reason, persistence, she doesn't give up.
Vegetarian Soylent Green right! She wasn’t born special, what made her special were the decisions she made and the actions she took. The point is, ANY woman could be Mulan if they have the courage in their hearts. You don’t have to be “special”. In the 2020 movie, Mulan is an exception. She’s NOT just like any other woman. So basically, the movie says that a woman has to be born with special powers in order to be on par with her male counterparts, which is bullshit and goes against the original message!
Historically, Mulan had some fighting knowledge which I think could’ve easily been displayed without some stupid chi BS.
That message dosn't fit their narrative
Reasons why this movie is worse than the cartoon:
1. They took out “make a man out of you”
2. It’s made by modern Disney
3. They took out “make a man out of you”
“Make a man out of you” was my favorite ass Disney song this is why I hated this fucking movie.
True
4: they took out Mushu
5. They added a magical witch
Most importantly they took out “make a man out of you”
I really hate that disney's response to people wanting strong female characters is literally make all their female characters physically stronger. We want compelling female characters who feel like their own person and whose character arc does not revolve around the men in her life, not a human nuke who can melt space ships and oh yeah also happens to be a woman.
Kyle Hayden yeah exactly. strong = compelling and well-written NOT overpowered god
Can't wait to see how they fuck up Ariel. Taming sharks to take down Ursula? Tune in to find out!
I mean do we? There is already enough representation in media now. I'm not saying that representation is bad, nay, I encourage it, but is there not enough empowerment?
And also BTW a woman character's personality shouldn't just be woman, it should be a well written character with personality who happens to be a woman. Representation doesn't mean you can't show their flaws and stuff.
I think that it needs to be a mix of both. Female characters shouldn’t have to be made more stereotypically masculine to be strong characters, but women can also be physically strong. But when it comes to these strong women in movies they always seem to choose one or the other. How about a head strong, with a more petite woman or a compassionate but more physically built woman?
B-because they have Chi quantum or something
Disney seems like they haven’t realized that we don’t actually want “strong female characters.” We want strong characters that just happen to be female. “Strong female characters” aren’t compelling because that’s literally their entire character. Strong characters that just happen to be female have to have other things going for them to be interesting, relatable, or admirable.
For Disney, they are just marking a check-box that some PR people gave them.
Spoods Noodle Doodles I actually kind of liked Rey in Force Awakens and Last Jedi, not gonna lie. Captain Marvel though. Yeah. She’s overall just a big “meh” for me.
@@melfree2545 I agree. For those that complained that it wasn't as good as the original (thinks about the prequels)...no kidding.
@@melfree2545 Rey was fine until TROS imo, she had struggles, pains and a somewhat aggressive personality that was coming through especially in TLJ, she was not perfect in everything she did but still managed to make it work, and had a "pRoBlEmAtIc" potential love interest, which I liked.
Then they made her Super Saiyan One Punch Ninja Womyn Who Don't Need No Man with glorious bloodline in some failed attempt to cater to Reddit's hurt feefees in the last movie, only reinforcing the Mary Sue argument idiots were already ranting about and they lost me there. There was literally no character exploration in that movie.
Cap Marvel is uh.......flat....in all senses of the word lol
LadyKraken I agree. I know this is kinda controversial but I really, really liked TLJ. Rey was a big part of why. I hated TROS so much I mostly pretend it doesn’t exist.
You can replace "chi" with "the force" and nothing would change.
Not if you put it in the dragonball Z universe
@@TheStripedPirate I was talking about the Mulan film.
Omg when I watched the movie with my family I constantly said that she had force powers.
I absolutely hate how accurate this is
@@TheStripedPirate why we talking about Z?
Disney is just straight up turning into the EA of the movie world
@Mickey Mouse Order your people to stop being so money greedy
Good thing Disney said that they approve of EA's model during the height of the paywall for the battlefront games while renewing EA's license to the franchise as the sole game creators for Star Wars
@Mickey Mouse Even their own mascot hates them now lmao
BRUH you only notice that now?!
Disney has always been like this.
Disney: Removes songs, Mushu and Lucky Cricket to make it realistic
Also Disney: Adds in a witch and gives Mulan superpowers
And guys running on walls
Basically it's just bs to make the movie sellable to people in China. All they care about it money. And as with Blizzard and the NBA, we'll lose our freedoms through companies because they somehow aren't subject to our laws
You forgot the phoenix
Witches are more of a westernized type of villain as well as superpowers, chi to chinese is your life force not some magic power. So many of these ideas are not even chinese but westernized from hollywood.
I think they have a theory here: remove all of the best parts and add some crazy shit that we barely researched.
and there you go best movie ever!
Live action Disney is the film industry’s biggest bruh moment
Yep. And they have no respect for their legacy, creating shit for the sake of cash.
The stream of "remakes" is like global warming but for the film industry.
I think creating cheap direct to video sequels of their entire catalog was a bigger bruh moment, but to each their own.
Nono, you mean live action Disney REMAKES. Live action Disney movies are actually good.
@UCJlIzadpmyk_Q23MMIp-xtQ Air Bud?
Hell yeah
this movie basically said, “women can’t be strong without a super power”, while the old movie said “a woman could be just as strong as a man”.
I fucking know. Misses the goddamn point of the first one.
Also basically said that you have to be a 'chosen one' or have 'special powers' just to be good at something, while the original said that anybody can be anything if they are determined.
Honestly, Disney doesn't even care about their own work now.
I think they did that to appeal to China's sexiest government
Nah it wasn't about her being as strong as men 10:39
@@josephk1312 This, thanks
lmao they basically just randomly gave mulan ultra instinct in this movie.
Lol
@@TheRealGamer872 its too true tho lmao
Disney should make a remake with dragon Ball if that happens and I bet lot of money if they need.
The CCP is good america lies now im going to redeem my social points
Sodover Scourge nah it’s gonna be like dragon ball evolution 2.0
I don’t think turning Mulan into a Wuxia story is inherently a bad idea, in fact it sorta works, but the people who wrote this movie fundamentally don’t understand Wuxia as a genre. One of the core principles of the Wuxia Genre is that birth and natural talent is secondary to hard work and training, it doesn’t matter if you’re a man or woman, the Emperor or a peasant, if you put in the effort you can achieve great things, Mulan 2020 is the antithesis of the Genre it’s trying to emulate.
I was gonna come here to comment pretty much this and you took the words right out of my mouth! Yeah, a Mulan movie with Wuxia elements could be fun and awesome, but sadly these people didn't understand the genre...
It's such a simple fix, too. Just make it so every character has chi powers, and most of the army and antagonists are stronger than Mulan. If you want it to not be about gender, make it so many members of the army are female but have extremely strong qi, and Mulan simply doesn't. (If you wanted to maintain the whole Mulan crossdress plot just make the women their own division that Mulan can't join because they're ridiculously powerful, which is why they were allowed in the army despite being women)
Then all you have to do is revolve the plot around Mulan using wit and hard work to outdo/keep up with those around her and boom. She's back to being similar to the better Mulan without losing the wuxia elements.
The original movie: women are just as strong as men and there's strength in both masculinity and femininity.
This trainwreck: women can maybe catch up with men if they have superpowers, otherwise stay on your lane and give me sons
it's because nowadays you can't be subtle anymore, you have to say strong woman, racism is wrong, you can't have a subtle message anymore
@@tio_john racism is only wrong NOW?
in the original movie the message was that she wasn't stronger, but better because she was smart, this was a powerful message from Disney to keep conflict with gender 'war' to be peaceful not continuous. meaning as if she was smarter than the other men she could potentially be better. in the remake, they made her some powerful overtaking woman who could defeat men because of her chi; this escalates feminists to resume their conflict of being "more powerful than men." therefore creating a conflict of men hating women for their 'feminism' more and continuously. In conclusion people hate this movie because ITS FULL OF SHIT THAT NO ONE CARES, NOT EVEN WOMEN
@@comedicpsychnerd no, they're saying that now you can't just give a message metaphorically, you just have to present the message as it is, so that people don't get angry for misinterpreting it.
@@jagp135 ik. T’was a joke. I agree with them tho, like why can’t we just have a metaphor or somethin?
Disney: gets rid of Mushu to make the movie more "realistic"
Also Disney: puts in a bunch of bs superpowers and thanks the ccp for using an internment camp.
Wow...
Edit: Watching this again, while I can see why they would remove the comedy relief characters for a more serious tone and to respect the culture, what about the pheonix? I thought that was part of Greek mythology. Am I missing something?
😆
Yee this what they get for removing the homie mushu
and the pheonix, don't forget the pheonix
They removed Wushu because the chinese government felt that Wushu was a bad representation of their culture, even Elvis told so.
@@blobbertmcblob4888 That too.
I think the ultimate problem with Disney is they lack a strong artistic core. They’re making these movies by committee. Disney and Pixar were their best when they had a creative director who understood what makes stories good. These movies have gotten so big and expensive that they have too many hands on them, they won’t trust their creatives.
Points were made😩
Hey, Pixar was pretty good until Inside Out, and that wasn't like too long back.
@@santhoshsridhar5887 inside out was pretty good
That's what I'm saying! Yes!
As they say; too many cooks will spoil the broth.
You have my respect for raising awareness of oppression of the Uyghurs.
Except Uighur wasn’t anywhere near the Milan saga in history. At the time of Mulan the Uyghur didn’t even come onto historical scene yet. Also exactly why does everyone treat Uyghurs being entitled to xinjiang when it is a multiethnic region and Han was there literally thousand year before Uyghur? Also the whole oppression thing, the delegation from UN found no wrong doing in their investigation in the region. So show some proof like Guantanamo before starting the accusation. Otherwise, it will just be another scenario similar to US invasion of Iraq over weapon of mass destruction.
@@Commonlogicguy homie they are literally commuting a genocide on the level of WW2’s concentration camps.
@@frownyclowny6955 and you are based this assumption on? Realize that nowadays everyone with a phone is a journalist not to mention overhead satellites, there is surprisingly little supporting evidence. Since we are in an anti-china trade war, how convenient it is that media is accusing China of such thing much like how Iraq “had” weapon of mass destruction. But you know what amounted to massive death? Situation in Iraq and Afghanistan in the last 20 years, anyone looking into the situation of those Muslims? Bro?
@@Commonlogicguy the video literally describes how this has been happening long before phones even fucking existed. Nobodies trying to invade China on the false basis of nuclear arms either.
Also the suffering of one group does not invalidated the suffering of another.
Your name is the most ironic thing on the planet
@@frownyclowny6955 Sure, it does not invalidate. At the same time, this is just hypocritical of the western media constantly shinning a light on China while ignoring their own wrong doings. All of those tragedies inAfrica? Plight of all the natives in Australia and America? Those are the things the western government can actually controls yet, they are going for china not for invasion but simply bargaining chip in a trade war. So as they say, glass house and stones right. Oh I am logical, just all logic comes from certain perspective. Just happened where I am coming from is not where you are coming from, that is all.
Dreamworks made a better Chinese movie about Jack Black being a panda doing kung-fu than Disney supposedly making a realistic Chinese film.
And Kung Fu Panda is accurate to Chinese culture that when it was released in theaters for the first time, the Chinese were like: "Why wasn't this movie made here in China? Why didn't we make this film?"
Fucking depressing- and the weird panda movie was actually good to...
As a Chinese person I don’t stand for this remake
That whole trilogy of movies was surprisingly good. Dreamworks sometimes just hits it out of the park and gives old school Disney a run for their money.
@@RED_Theory038 at this rate dreamworks may be the new old disney. Disney studios is digging themselves a deeper and deeper hole. And I am a super disney nerd saying this!
mann kung fu panda is lit! Po was actually working hard for his 'chi', while mulan is just... i don't know... because she is just mulan, a main character, who has to be super strong for no reason lol.. i cringe so much watching her as a kid jumping like crazy like what is she?? a mutant? XD
I miss animated movies.. But they’d probably screw that up too. I hate Disney now.
I miss animated movies that aren't made in the usual "Doll with huge eyes" Pixar 3d style. That's why Into the Spider-verse was such a breath of fresh air. The animation is sooo beautiful and original
Anime is much better!
Did you watch Frozen 2?
I swear that is the worst story for a disney movie. It is a sad time for their movies in general.
Disney is dead. Bury it. Kill if you have to.
camaro rider My opinion of Disney has gone downhill since they worked on the new Star Wars trilogy. These new “live action” movies were just icing on the cake. Not to mention their corporate bs.
Disney and this movie in a nutshell:
"Hey thanks China for letting us film right near your concentration camps."
It's literally like thanking hitler's government for filming near their own camps. Purely outright unnacceptable.
It's Pitiful this Trash is controversal when it's just one thing: Trash.
It's insulting the Source Material a dozen times over, directly, indirectly, and directly-indirectly.
Making Mulan JUST A CHOSEN ONE is an Insult.
Plot Holes, Fake-Feminism and Plot Holes - is what i say about this Movie!!!
Damn, it's so bad and yet people dont see that.
I believe alot of it was filmed in New Zealand humorously enough
@@oakleyraverty1030 Yeah I heard that too. But it's still really unethical that they spent any time near those concentration camps. It is true though that the majority of the film was filmed in New Zealand.
legom
The “saving Moana from being made into live action movie” statement did not age well
DISNEY is ruining their own movies with these remakes, it’s gotta stop. Just make original new content
*Gasp* Something original?? How could they ever expect to turn a profit on something that isn't even a remake??
I think they’ve ran out of ideas, and that’s why we have these remakes
All of their "original ideas" were stolen anyway. Disney can't be original, because they never were to begin with.
@@antonackermann9620 TRUE, the only originals they have are from Disney channel series or movies or whatever.
Make original new content or make actual live action movies with old animated ones that actually deserve them. I vote for treasure planet :)))
Armor: Saves Mulan's life
Mulan: *Takes off armor*
Sliver chariot approves
Max speed. May deal negative damage but hey she quicc even though she didint use that to her advantage for some reason (probably too much work for disney)
@@Justalilsilly armor isn’t that slowing. It can tire you out depending on weight but generally it shouldn’t be too restricting. Of course no armor is less restrictive but to go into a battlefield and taking off your protection? That’s just flat out stupid. Just wearing clothes offers a lot more protection than being naked let alone having proper armor
@Andrei Salvaleon what would her subclass be though?
200 iq play
Just remember that a woman can't do anything without magical powers!
All these "pro woman" and feminist empowering movies are the absolute complete opposite of what they're trying to "achieve". I'm tired of it as a woman. I love Mulan as a kid, I saw her work hard and train to be strong, she wasn't good at the start, she sucked but she kept trying and trying. She was a problem solver, she probably couldn't win against the strongest Hun warriors but she figured out ways to keep them away by problem solving and she also taught men that's it's okay to be feminised even if it's for war.
Just... They failed so much.
bruh moment #2
“women weak without magic power from uhmmmm powerful gods” - disney
Love your username 💗💙🤍
Hell yea
As Cynical CJ put it in his review of Mulan 2020 (great channel; well worth checking out) filming Mulan in Xinjiang and thanking the Chinese agency running the camps for their help would be like "filming a movie down the road from Auschwitz and giving a shout-out to the SS". It's absolutely gob-smacking that Disney could have done this. Yet here we are.
😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊
Disney: we don’t want to appeal to our OG Mulan audience, let’s try to appeal to Chinese audience with bare bones cultural research and zero effort. Oh no neither groups likes the movie????
*shocked pikachu face
nah you had your moment. This isn't the 90s anymore. Unlike most people who are mad that the movie is not identical to the original movie, in my opinion it's a great movie and I highly recommend you all to watch it. It's $40, and that's much cheaper for 4 people going to see it at cinemas. Just please, set your criticism aside and enjoy it.
FallenAngel
We’re not mad that it isn’t identical to the original cartoon version. We’re just saying it’s a disgrace to the message it was supposed to send. Now little girls in this generation are possibly gonna watch this 2020 Mulan film as the original Mulan film and it’s gonna tell them that they’ll always be one step behind men unless they have a naturally born superpower/gift. Mulan is literally about portraying women empowerment. If you don’t care about that and just care about the making of the film in itself, then ur missing the whole point of the film. If this 2020 Mulan film WASN’T identical to the original but still managed to send a message about women empowerment, we, the audience, wouldn’t be complaining. But it didn’t, so it’s why we’re criticizing. I mean, I guess it’s a good film if you only wanna see action and fighting.
@@fallenangel_899 it sucks.
@@fallenangel_899 turn a blind eye to the corporates? Typical
This mulan is a perfect example of how much of an out of touch, soul-less corporation disney is.
Disney: Shut up and give me money!
@@legomyeggo4121 no!
Honestly, marvel and Star Wars are the only things keeping them from going bankrupt. Wait no, not Star Wars, Dave filoni.
The love interest was so poorly done that the witch and Mulan had more chemistry.
I thought the same thing just from the clips here. Didn't even need to see the movie :|
@@jellyfishi_ Trust me, I don't understand it too (and I'm bi). A lot of fans are very much into making everything gay. It pisses me off because I'm friends with straight guys who don't even act close to their male friends anymore because they didn't want to be labelled gay. Most of those fans are straight girls who fetishize gay men, it's disgusting. Some do it because they want representation, which is odd because an unconfirmed bisexual character isn't representation at all.
@@jellyfishi_ He's not, they just desperately latch onto anything they can. Shang who respected Ping responded to him MUCH DIFFERENTLY than Shang who was interested in Mulan. This isn't rocket science, they just want to delude themselves.
S. S. Cookies dirty minds?
Yeah dude I was lowkey shipping them at the end lol. Like c'mon
“Theres still time to save moana guys”
You did not bro 💀💀💀
The sound of Disney losing so much money is a beautiful thing.
Next best thing is them filing for bankruptcy
blake e yeah that’s not likely to happen yet. They make billions of $$$ right now
Disney can die after the mandalorian, if there is one thing i hate more than immense greed it's a good job left unfinished
Not much money 💰
For George Lucas and Stan lee.
So they took out Mushu because they wanted a more grounded, less supernatural movie. Buttttt they have a witch and and Mulan has chi powers...right.... Disney logic
bruhhhhhh I thought that to when I found out there was going to be a witch after finding out they weren't putting in mushu
Actually I heard they took out Mushu because a few Chinese people found Mushu to be somewhat insulting in a way. Which is ironic because Disney ended up being more insulting to China.
@@linkingglagoon8254 I have this idea where Mushu is a dragon reluctantly bound to a human form and forced to oversee Mulan's safety by order of the heavenly court.
I think Disney and other big corporations like TH-cam are just completely ignorant to what people want and in the pursuit of making things "advertiser friendly" end up making everything hundred times worse
Also a kite-looking phoenix
It's fun to watch this film being roasted on both Western and Eastern sides.
Finally, something that brings us together.
United in hate.
@@grosebud4554 United We Hate
It’s fun to watch Disney make no profit from a movie.
So a Western and Eastern tag team roast.
24:58 Had me almost speechless. It’s amazing to witness what a simple change of music and effects can do.
I know this is for China but did anyone else get pissed off when she toss her father precious armor into the dirt like it was trash due to her selfish suicidal need for chi.
Ikr
@yourFBIagent Yes.
It was that until it wasn't in the remake lol.
The new remake kinda simbolizes blEh fUcK pAtriarchY by tossing off father's armor. Typical woke disney. They don't really care much about plot progression or anything like that.
DunklerJägerZach and funny enough it’s not very chinese. Chinese respect family above all else that’s why Mulan is such a powerful story because it’s about a daughter and her fight for her father in times where chinese daughters weren’t very much appreciated.
chungus Yeah, she may have been discounted as a woman, but that is her FATHER that they’re conscripting for war. He will DIE. It’s filial piety and love that compels her to secretly enlist in his place. It’s like Disney didn’t watch its own film.
Why is Mulan Pele kicking everything? She's an extra in Shaolin Soocer?
BRO SHAOLIN SOCCER YES
Shaolin Soccer has better story telling and character development than fucking magic ninja mulan
HAHA RONALDINHO SOCCER
Pele is a fraudster. Lol
Bite your tongue, sir. Shaolin Soccer is a GOOD movie!
Now that Mulan has mastered Chi and saved China, I hear she's going to travel to Japan to train with Goku.
Anime goku or live action movie goku
@@hazydoom69 Probably the sub-par live action goku.
YOOOOO
Naaaah you heard incorrectly. she's going to Japan to TRAIN Goku
Hello there
You know it’s a good day when Disney losses millions of dollars.
Yes!
Aaayy you're the phoenix
Now This puts a smile on my face.
Rise like a phoenix, and desecrate the holy hell out of this movie
Not when you own stocks to leach money off of them
*POWERS OF CHI:*
1 - run up walls
2 - catch arrows mid-air.
3 - *hold water better*
4 - *F A B R I C B E N D E R*
Lol Best Jeanist-level fabric bending powers 👌👌👌
shadeboi.
hello, my sibling.
Who would you rather fight?
1. Mulan in an arrow storage
2. The emperor in a tailor shop
2. Jackie Chan in a ladder factory
🤣 🤣 🤣 😭
@@AndragonLea Jackie chan, that way I know I’d lose honourably
The biggest mega bruh moment will be when there won't be any more animated movies left to remake.
OUR GOD HAS RETURNED
Justin, y do you comment on nearly every video?
@@IrishGuysScarf He's god
They're gonna start making live-action into animations so they could then remake those back into live-action.
Then maybe they will remake the live-action movies. Only then will hell be unleashed.
Thank you for speaking up about Xinjiang. I am Chinese, and I firmly believe the CCP is the worst thing happening to my country. By the way, the lead actress in the earlier Mulan movie that you mentioned, Zhaowei, has been "disappeared" for more than a year.
That sounds ominous.
It's also sad how the current Mulan actress went out of her way to say she stands with the Hong Kong Police because theirs nothing more empowering to women or anyone else than supporting a Communist state in the midst of repressing it's people. The Same Communist Government that during it's One China Policy forced tens of thousands of women to have abortions and the vast majority of aborted or post live birth murders were girls who could have grown up to be remarkable women but were instead snuffed out in favor of sons because the Communist State demanded it.
Sometimes to me it's not clear if Chinese actors "support" the government because they really like it or because they don't want to, you know, disappear or whatever else China does to people who oppose them (and being a public figure makes it even harder to go against it because if they survey regular folk, they definitely keep all the tabs on their celebs and what they are saying).
Not defending the main actress, because hey what she said was shifty, but sometimes I wonder how much of those words are genuine and how much is just being afraid of something happening to you or your family.
brainwashed sellout
Well the movie is about a woman supporting an Empire that oppresed people in the great wall. Now is a movie about a woman supporting the Empire oppres the xiognu . Played by an actress that supports an Empire oppresing minorities. So I Say is pretty much spot on
So the witch killed herself for NOTHING since Mulan would catch that arrow easily?
Fitting, such a useless character die in such a idiotic way
Omg. I said that out loud while watching. Really stressed me out lol
ah yes, plot
Not to mention the witch was supposed to be this really powerful being. So couldn't she have just killed the guy before he shot the arrow? Stupid.
Why did the "professional critic" said Liu Yifei's performance was amazing she had the same face literally the whole movie
They were talking about her performance sucking up to the CCP...
Lol 😂😂😂
stone cold stare🥵
Every single youtuber movie critic hates this movie. Chances are those "professional critics" are paid by disney.
M8 that's kinda racist
FINALLY someone said it. The CGI/Editing is soooo bad. Like when Mulan is on the horse, It's almost like that meme of Mary Jane holding onto a fake spiderman.
Yo theres a scene during the invasion of the capital where you can see an outline around one of the Roran soldiers while he's running on a wall
Schaffrillas also pointed that out too
I dont think cgi/design is the main criticism here. Cgi & design < Storytelling & Plot
In the 1998 mulan, shan yu was awesome. His character was freaking cool looking, he was a menace and a huge threat, his voice worked great with the character. Just the "boo" when he's hanging from the roof, just a great villan. The live action butchered it because he doesn't even feel like a threat, it feels like he isn't even dangeous without the witch. In the live action he's seemingly useless on hiss own, considered he was beaten by mulan instantly.
So much for "more realistic"!
The witch throws a shuriken at Mulan, in a time period where they didn’t even exist. It’s most likely that they were also invented in Japan as well
They used a counterweight trebuchet in a time they didn't even exist. Also most likely invented in the Middle East/Europe.
Wanna know even more irony? "Witch" isn't even character in Chinese myth. No, seriously. Usually they have bad spirits for bad magical character ( Like Empress Daji Myth).
Basically they insert European character for Chinese setting movie.
@@MrStupidarmy Do you mean “witch”? If so, then wow, nobody does research
@@andresacosta7885 Sorry, stupid autocorrect
@agito 97 could you elaborate on that? I mean, did they have a history of making terrible historical/cultural inaccuracies?
Isn’t kind of ironic that the actress of mulan, the female Chinese hero who stopped a war is in support of police brutality.
It shouldn't matter tbh, sure the movie has a lot of problems, and is pretty shit overall. But disliking it because the actress supports something you dont? Kinda gay.
Joey Ryan Theres so many things wrong with your comment. It’s not just a “disagreement”, people are in concentration camps and she literally came out and supported that. It’s not like saying you won’t support someone bc they prefer chocolate ice cream over vanilla, people are being murdered. Also, gay isn’t an insult.
Joey Ryan police brutality shouldn’t be politicized it’s a human rights issue
@@zr5581 So? The movie has nothing to do with it, thats my point. Its like when people were pissed at Blizzard and decided to boycott them by not playing World of warcraft. Congratulations, by not playing a game you're helping those being oppressed in china. People love to say somethings bad and they don't condone it, but do fuck all about it.
@@anyalaASMR Louis Ck has the perfect bit about calling things gay, it is an insult when describing certain things. Like being upset about this movie just because the actress defended her home countries actions.
"Disney did away with all comedy for the remake."
IDK. Every time Mulan uses her chi powers looks pretty hilarious to me.
Also love how Disney said they were removing the music and fantasy elements like Mushu to make it grounded. Only to then include super-chi, a phoenix, a shapeshifting witch, etc.
To make it worse, the movie is filled with orientalism. The whole "chi" thing is incredibly misrepresented and they could have fixed it just by calling it "cultivation" instead. There are no witches in Chinese mythology, but spirits that can transform from birds to humans and shape-shift are a thing and considered evil. The clothing the characters are wearing are strange, low quality mutations of Chinese clothes, visualising this movies orientalism right in front of our eyes. It's so painfully obvious they didn't have anyone that knew anything about anything Chinese to help them make this movie, yet they expected the Chinese audiences to like it?
Kung Fu Panda was more respectful to Chinese culture than this film. Disney has all this fucking money. It is 2020, HOW are we still doing the whole “didn’t bother to ask, just made it up from memory” method of depicting foreign cultures? Seriously!!
Why didnt they let more chinese people work on this film 🤔
heck Cuz racism 😔
@@heartsDmise Chinese is not a race
@@Himmyjewett Lol, are you stupid?
Disney: **looses money**
_This does, put a smile on my face_
Yeah. It gives me joy seeing millions of people losing their jobs.
Dude, a 100something million loss is nothing to Disney
Genocide is fun - I’m saying if Disney shuts down, then that could happen.
@@MegaSoulHero oh my gosh
@I am rad I’m not crying. I agree that the current execs need to literally die a horrible death, but the company as a whole shouldn’t shut down. It will cause millions to lose their jobs. Probably hard for you to understand because you don’t have a family. The only one crying here is you with that over the top response.
"Today's Disney movie is sponsored by Uygher internment camps."
Dag_Will 😂
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*death camps, ftfy
You can’t show that both the bad guy and Mulan are able to dodge arrows and then act like she is in any threat from an arrow, needing the sacrifice of the witch.
They take away
-the comedy
-interesting side characters
-character development
-an ACTUAL love interest
-overcoming odds with smarts
And they thought this would be a good idea??????
They peppered in that sweet, sweet “oh yeah let’s film near concentration camps and thank the administrator of those camps in our credits sequence!” to make matters worse 🤩
Not to mention all of the songs
And an important message for little girls. Well f done, Disney
And they went from beautifully animated to boring.
@TalesofOrion
You give them too much credit, Igor probably figured this would make a lot of money from the name alone. And with Aladdin, Beauty And The Beast, Lion King, and Jungle Book remakes, he has a reason to believe that.
1998: Somehow I'll make a man out of you
2020: Somehow I'll make 30 bucks out of you
🤣😭 Lmao!
This is genious
👏👏👏👏Accurate👏👏👏👏
Lmao
Lmao!
I’m so happy that Mushu, the cricket, Shang, and the grandma weren’t in this movie. I’m sure that their characters would’ve been butchered as well.
True, Eddie Murphy would've killed himself.
@@DOI_ARTS 0-0 I-
Joking About suicide is uncool , man
The cartoon avalanche scene alone was more badass than the entire live action film.
It involved less real world genocide, too.
Cricket is in the movie, 9:40
I've noticed a really disappointing theme with movies who center around strong female leads. in a lot of them, in order to make her strong, they will resort to giving her super powers. that *undermines the whole point of empowerment.* like... we aren't supernatural in real life. but we can be strong for who we are, though none of these movies that claim to represent that seem to believe that
I consider it an allegory for natural talent, which I have in some areas. The truth of the matter is, I 100% didn’t work harder than my classmates in the classes where I got top marks. They studied hard to pass, just like I did in my weaker subjects. So I don’t consider it offensive to see a female character being better than men at something without breaking a sweat when I did that at a number of academic competitions in my city. Besides, male protagonists get to be supernaturally good at things all the time; I deserve to think of myself that way too.
Hooray mulan is now a dead-eyed monotone character who can only win by "CHI"-ting
I get it It’s funny
Where is Kun Fu Panda movie when you need it Poh also have Chi Power and did a better job
😲😲😄😄😄
Even though the hair cutting scene in the original isn't historically accurate, it still works perfectly as cinematic shorthand. An example Lindsay Ellis once used was in Hercules. When Hercules enters Zeus's temple, he kneels and says a prayer. The historically accurate thing to do would be to sacrifice a goat, but that wouldn't make sense to a modern audience. Shorthand quickly gives information to the audience by using modern cultural knowledge. Mulan's scene succeeds in this shorthand while also being a powerful, cinematic scene that shows Mulan's transformation as well as being a crossing of the threshold that she can't turn back from.
That’s very true!
Agreed, the goal doesn't always have to be historical accuracy if you can get the message across. Historical accuracy is good but it's best taken with a grain of "Ok, how is this going to be interpreted by the people watching this and are they going to me mega confused".
these are great points
imagine if he had killed a goat... family entertainment
@@MC-tl5bf Hercules kills a goat in honor of Zeus. Zeus suddenly has three orgasms at once inside a non-consenting mortal woman because most of Greece's problems boiled down to Zeus and Olympian Gods not being able to resist having their way with mortal women.
Let’s all agree, when Disney said they would get rid of the songs and mooshoo, we knew it was going to be bad
I like the name Mushy instead of Mooshoo
But in all seriousness I did get worried that this movie was gonna suck.
Funki Toe thanks for telling me, I hate auto correct
@@cosmicbread1086 it's fine. Mushy is a cool ass name, autocorrect knew what it was doing
Funki Toe same
The hair cutting scene in the animated movie represents her embracing change, representing a new beginning, a new her. She embraced her new self she was going to have to be to join the army, before she had to, knowing she would have to develop as a person and face challenges she hadn't had before, that's why she cut her hair. Not because it would help disguise her/make her more masculine, because, like Elvis Alien said, men had long hair in early China, so she could've kept her hair, but didn't, to embrace change and her new future self, and let go of who she was before.
“Loyal, brave, true”
So they used the FBI motto???
Fidelity, Bravery, integrity.
Good job Disney very Chinese.
later the emperor gave her a new sword with a new 4th virtue and it's "Devotion to family". Kinda sounds like he's telling her to stay the fuck home, get married and have kids lol (I get it that they mean differently, probably? But it's a lame thing to put on the sword of a warrior lol)
@@vanessapham6914 he basically said "You served our country well and I thank you for your service. Now go back to the kitchen bitch"
@@vanessapham6914 it was just a bad job done on disney's part.. its supposed to mean fidial peity i think. in chinese culture its essentially showing respect and honor to our family. there isnt really an english translation that can capture what it really means.
@@cait3196 Yeah I think that's what they want it to convey. But since in the US for example, people can interpret it differently. Also, idk but in the movie they didn't show her being too devoted to the family and all that. It didn't show clearly that she went to war for her father's sake like in the animation. It seems more like she just want to fight. She didn't show much struggles during training either and seems very at home with the military, so... there wasn't anything she had to overcome for family honor. It's just... not clear what family devotion she showed that deserved to be added to the sword
Hong Kong liu
so... they said that the original was too cartoonish but this one... isn't??
Lol the cartoon was more realistic. How's that even possible??
Walt Disney is shaking in his grave because of all this disappointment.
The cartoon made more damn sense than the “realistic take” on Mulan the fuck.
You were the chosen one
The original one was beautiful and gave me all the feels.
Disney: we want to make Mu Lan more realistic so we’re removing every fun aspect of the original
Also Disney: Mu Lan is now a natural Chi master from birth and phoenixes exist now
And also she deals with eagle witches now.
Also everybody is walking on walls now and kicking arrows.
@@TheHiddenDirector also she turns into a bunch of bats and sacrifices herself for Mulan for no reason
Also we didn’t even choose to make the Phoenix regionally accurate either. It’s western Phoenix now.
Don't forget it's a _western_ phoenix,not even a Chinese one
The end of “Make a man out of you” where Mulan is climbing the post to reach the arrow as the sun rises is one of the most powerful scenes in Disney history and it gives me chills every time AND THEY CUT IT FROM THE MOVIE!? That was the moment i lost all hope entirely for this dumpster fire of a movie
Ever notice how Disney's remakes look like Bollywood productions?
Even Bollywood movies are better than this shit
@@semolinalibra agree
And Bollywood has an extremely low budget when compared to Disney, for most of the time. What's Disney's excuse??
These idiots should've stuck to animation.
They look bland and cheap as fuck for sure. Plenty of Bollywood productions out there probably put this to shame
Dude, Disney charging 30 dollars to watch their film at home is pathetic money grabbing. Really bad. And then they're surprised when people pirate their sh!t. lol.
Littlestone I’m surprised people would pirate it at all. Who the hell would pirate such a bad movie?
@@doommaximus6388, r/datahoarder
@@mina86 Definitely.
Hey people still watch train wrecks just to see what it looks like
WOW and I thought Cartoon Network loves their money because of TTN!
I like to imagine that in the end, the villain catches the arrow again, and he shoots it back at the emperor, and the emperor throw it back up for Mulan to kick it at the villain, and it’s just an endless cycle until somebody gives up
🤣🤣🤣🤣 Lmao and I thought that scene couldn’t be anymore pointless and ridiculous.
That's how you defeat Ganon!
Someone should make a 10 hour video of that scene
@@KuddlyKittyKat exactly what I was thinking of. Ping pong boss battle
14:43 If that throwing star thingy was thrown with enough force to send Mulan flying backwards it should’ve penetrated her body and exited out her back akin to a very powerful bullet (or cannon ball since even bullets realistically don’t send you flying). Neither armour nor tiddy-binder would’ve saved her.
Honestly everyone forgetting that is her dad's armor... and it would be extremely disrespectful to just abandon it.
@christopher gearwar
Holy crap, I forgot that... And they claimed to want to make this "more realistic." Bullcrap... >:(
Well, at the end of the original, she also doesn't have neither her dad's sword or the armor, but it's not as impactful or important bc the 2020 version spends a lot of time setting up the sword as something very important for both the father and mulan, and then they just destroy it lol lmao
The "eagle" is actually a peregrine falcon.
This isn't a negative comment I just like birds.
Berb 🦅
God damn.
Thank you for the bird fun fact :)
THANK YOU! I wasn’t the only one that noticed 😂
@@EmmaxHobbits remind me to ivan of ironman II when he asking about his bird
4:00 I'm sorry Elvis.
My favorite thing about this video is that when he starts talking about the animated Mulan there's nice ancient Chinese music playing. And when he starts talking about the remake some goofy royalty free music plays
I love that so much.
Is N64 Rare music actually royalty friendly?
It is conker bad fur day
@@wyntertheicewyvern6226 Disney does not know how to make good live action women movies for example captin marvel, Mulan , black widow
@@ManuelLopez-bh8gu ?? why did that come up and why are you replying to him
I do not like commenting on videos publicly but as an Uyghur person with family in the camps thank you for talking about what is happening to us. You did so better than many politicians, reporters, and more political youtubers I have seen. From the bottom of my heart, thank you so much for defending us.
I’m so sorry about what’s happening to your people. I hope that your family in the camps are safe- or as safe as they possibly could be. I hope that everything will soon turn out better. ❤️
Get them out any opportunity you have
Im so sorry to hear that
As a fellow muslim i wish your family will be ok
everybody is talking about the Uyghurs, in the West. like Americans don't treat Blacks the same way or Europeans don't treat Romas the same way.
@@SvobodaIliSmert everybodys talking about uyghurs? Like blm never happened
According to my friend from China, at the end where the emperor says “loyalty to family” is the last perk, it’s essentially saying,
“Thank you, now go back to the kitchen”
No it's not. The word is badly translated - it should be "filial piety", which is one of the most important virtues in Chinese culture for both men and women. The reason Mulan's story is so culturally significant is because she is the epitome of filial piety, by risking her life to take her father's place in the army. Sadly many Chinese parents nowadays take "filial piety" to mean "do your homework and become a doctor/lawyer or I will disown you" lol.
At 17:55 there is also the incredibly crappy and incorrect archery. She let loose CGI arrows with the wrong grip ( Mediterranean instead on thumb draw) from the wrong side of the bow and with an abysmal technique…
Disney just sucks now, I haven’t seen a good movie from them in a while.
ye moana was probaly the best one in the 2000s my opinion
I don't even think that company should still bare Disney's name by now. It has become so far removed from the original vision that its creator had for it that it is utterly unrecognizable and would be hard-pressed to yield any quality content that even remotely feels like an actual ''Disney Movie'', such as the ones we grew up with and loved so much. So in the mean time, I suggest you just do what I do : Stick with the original, timeless Classics. They never get old.
@@lisafitzpatrick4046 Tangled, Big Hero 6 and Zootopia were pretty good too
Tangled was the best 3d movie they've ever done ngl the other movies have many problems and plotholes. Tangled was quite perfect
The last good one for me was Tangled
This is like "Avatar: The Last Airbender" all over again...
Dont ya mean legend of korra? Avatar ended a long time ago.
@@Jester8492 Photon means the movie Avatar: the last airbender. It was a .... disappointment
@@ietjecraft oh yea... that movie
Jester no way Korra is way better in a long shot
But without the whitewash.
Desert Goths*🤣
Fabric Bender*🤣
I don't like the Emperor. He's coarse and rough and irritating and he gets everywhere.
Just like sand. Lol
Plot twist: he's made of sand
I thought this was gonna be a serious comment at first lmao
You sure is sand what you are talking about?
He sounds like a voice over for a 70's-80's era kung fu movie.
I’m glad people know about, and acknowledge “Mulan: Rise of a Warrior.” I thought it was just some movie no one knew about.
Best part of Mulan (2020) is finding Mulan: Rise of a Warrior
and the 2009 one further emphasizes that Mulan can be portrayed as super talented and badass from the beginning too if it is well executed with emotional struggle and development of the main character.
Birb Witch: can summon a swarm of birds for scouting and harassment
Birb Witch: doesn't do that when taking the arrow for Mulan, thus saving herself and Mulan
I will never see a Disney live action movie, they don’t deserve that money.
LJ * only semi-acceptable one was Aladdin tbh
@@sammy2758 I'm not sure if it technically counts as a remake, but both of the new Maleficent movies are actually pretty good. Debatable as to whether or not they're remakes though since they actually change the events of the story and spice it up more than just a 1 to 1 retelling of sleeping beauty.
You tell ‘em man!
I watched The Jungle Book and the first 10 minutes of Aladdin. You’re not missing out on anything.
@@sammy2758 Agreed, Aladdin is fun to watch with friends when you're drunk. It's not a good movie but they've added interesting new songs and dance numbers. It's alright. Jafar was trash tho in that remake. They did him real bad.
“Desert Goths” is actually perfectly accurate for the people’s being portrayed. There are distinct parallels between the Goths that fought the Romans and these “Desert Goths” fighting the Empire.
"I'm gonna make a bold claim and say Mulan 2 was better than this movie." 😂 OMG!
MULAN 2 EXISTS?
Hot take lol
@@symon5468 I think there’s a Mulan 3 as well lol
@@symon5468 yes. It was released straight to dvd in 2004.
@@ickycat4380 they cancelled that project to make this movie.
"Mushu is too insulting! LET'S ADD A WESTERN PHOENIX!"
The dragon makes more god damn sense than the fucking phoenix!
I thought dragons are the sign of masculinity, and the remake screws it all. There still has to be some redeeming qualities that would give Mulan 2020 a couple of phoenix downs.
Plus mushu had a reason to be a part of the movie, the Phoenix was just there.
I mean, the Chinese has a phoenix too, fenghuang, which usually represents the empress, a feminine counterpoint to the emperor's dragon. So I guess that's why they made the switch from Mushu dragon to Mulan's spiritual phoenix thingy??? Because she's... a girl?? It still don't make sense cause she isn't the empress or part of the royal family or the emperor's harem or anything, lmao.
@@-saffie-4977 The fenghuang is actually a pheasant. It's not very analogous to the western phoenix, it's more like how the Japanese treat foxes as spiritual creatures with divine power.
Change out Chinese dragon for Greek Phoenix. Smooth move.
They wanted to make the movie more "realistic..."
Do the makers of this movie know what realistic means? Because none of that looks anywhere near realistic.
Dude in China they all can fly. They are literally bouncing off the walls
Suits: "We're going for a more grounded, relatable, and realistic portrayal of Mulan..."
Guy they Hired: "I'm gonna make a kung fu movie! :D"
Especially the effects used on kid Mulan. The scene looked so bad you know it had the least amount of budget going into it.
@Romron Gramsay Could say the same to you
@Romron Gramsay You probably haven't seen the whole vid yet with the kid mulan scene, so i'll let that slide
The new Mulan felt more like an over the top Bollywood movie.
I think the Aladdin remake out-does it on the Bollywood factor. Including two completly out-of-nowhere dance sequences.
Disney really loves to disregard cultural accuracy for assuring foregin markets (and failing at it)...
I think most Bollywood movies, even if weird and overexaggerated, are more enjoyable than Mulan 2020.
As an Indian, I'd like to tell you that Bollywood movies atleast have some semblance of a plot that makes them *just* about tolerable.
Mulan on the other hand....
@@primerprime596 It's just magic.
Yeah but without the music, just a bad bollywood movie
That moment when Kung Fu Panda is a better representation of Chinese culture than a live-action remake of an actual Chinese ballad.
Exactly. In fact, Kung Fu Panda was such a well made movie of Chinese culture that even China got jealous of the fact that America made a better Chinese movie than them😂
@@さくら-l8t really, i didnt know that and im chinese.
An the panda was played by a white guy A WHITE GUY!
big bruh moment
@@LpsDreamsStarsandMoons To be fair it's Jack Black
Remember when movies actually had good female protagonist without being forced or cringe? I miss those days.
Yeah, I remember the original Mulan.
It was great.
She won through wit, skill, and tactics, that she learned and trained for, rather than out-manning the men by winning through raw strength gained because she's born magic.
Well, a lot of people bring up animated movies when talking about female protagonists.
But, to me, Ellen Ripley from Alien and Aliens is the best female protagonist. My favorite film protagonist of all time.
When you say this only one or two female characters are mentioned. The problem is that Hollywood has ALWAYS made shitty female protagonists and only a handful are any good. The number of great male protagonists will sadly always be higher.
@@FuzzyBunny28
I mean, I hope Hollywood will get over this "We can't have any female character struggle or grow in any way beyond 'Realising they're perfect' or it's sexist." Bullshit mentality, and start getting more women who are written just as well as men tend to be.
@@calemr Honestly, women werent even considered for leading front line roles, or even made fighters in most movies due to old (and sometimes still relevant) sexist views, so the fact that so many end up poorly written when we FINALLY get them is depressing
im so glad you went into the controversy cause so many channels ignore it when discussing this movie
The scene where Mulan kicks the arrow the emperor threw to kill the bad guy literally looked and sounded like it came out of bollywood.
Yo! Don’t disrespect Bollywood like that 😂.
Bollywood can be overdramatic but the real comically absurd scenes come from Tollywood
I watched a Jeep fly off a ramp into a helicopter! I saw a villain dragging a lady off a cliff getting his arm holding her chopped off by a thrown machete! I can believe a robot would take over the world for love and fuvking dance about it! I saw a man wrestle a bull with his bare hands! I saw a palm tree used for a catapult attack I don’t remember what my point was but everyone needs to watch Bollywood pick a 3 a half hour movie find the most serious looking movie the more serious the better and prepare to be confused because usually the hero is a waaaaaaay bigger asshole than the villain and lots of other fun stuff like random music videos with often nothing to do with what just happened I love Bollywood. Oh oh look for the Bollywood “Bruce lee” movie about the stunt man named Bruce lee who is a stunt man for a fat guy wtf and once you’re positive the name is basically a coincidence they start plastering pictures of real bruce lee everywhere!!! But Bollywood rip-off terminator (robot) is better than every terminator movie (not exaggerating actually pretty badass) you probably saw clips of it but you gotta see it’s like a terminator movie made sweet Kama sutra to a Disney film with I love India dumped on top
joseph roszell I actually watched a few Bollywood movies and ngl I liked them.
All of it looks like that
One thing I'd like to mention: The burned village scene. In the animated film, there aren't any bodies in the village, cause it's pg13, but the movie still shows the tragedy and impact effectively. In this movie, there aren't just bodies in the village, the whole army is WALKING OVER CORPSES. It's comical how many bodies there are. It doesn't automatically make your movie better to have violence, Mulan 2020. It's just uncomfortable.
i remember hearing that if you want to display tragedy, you do it with little things. instead of showing a thousand corpses, that simple little doll was far more effective than that
@@moonronic agreed
@@moonronic agreed
Also mulan 2020 it’s disrespectful to WALK ON CORPES
They literally remove the entire point of her character, she is not suppose to be this...damn ninja god.
She used her brain to outsmart her opponents, and yes while she did shown to get better in the training montage but she was never fuckin doing flips and kicking spears back into peoples faces.
I could care less about what the actor supports, i am just...confused why they would make all these huge changes to an already beloved animated movie.
It's obvious why. It's to pander to china. Which they thankfully failed at.
Mary Sue (2020)
@@userjames2009 Pretty much yeah
It's Pitiful this Trash is controversal when it's just one thing: Trash.
It's insulting the Source Material a dozen times over, directly, indirectly, and directly-indirectly.
Making Mulan JUST A CHOSEN ONE is an Insult.
Plot Holes, Fake-Feminism and Plot Holes - is what i say about this Movie!!!
Damn, it's so bad and yet people dont see that.
They are still trying to RAM female good man bad down our throats.
I saw Mulan Rise of a Warrior a while back, and it's "female" protagonist isn't some Ninja of Legend that just kicks the shit out of everybody, she is just a woman. However she is a woman that takes her licks and perseveres in a man's world. To me that makes that Mulan a much better role-model for women.
it's not that she's a woman that happens to be strong she's a strong person that happens to be a woman
holy shit a Trebuchet... Han dynasty was the second imperial dynasty of China (202 BC - 220 AD)... The first recorded use of a trebuchet is in Europe in the 12th century. Who let Biff use the time machine again?