@@hotfire9038 The only way to tell the difference is by using a very expensive scanning machine which can tell how they were formed. That's it. Also, most lab-grown diamonds will be laser inscribed with a serial number which identifies them as lab-grown. This is because visually it's impossible to tell the difference.
Hi Modern Goldsmith, I'm from GEMORO, the manufacturer of the Testerossa tester you are using in your video. THANK YOU so much for providing this super informative video! 100% of what you are saying is correct. There are two types of diamonds, ones that come from below the earth (mined), and ones that come from above the earth (lab grown). Both are 100% diamonds. I did want to add some more to the info provided to your viewers. First of all, when using our tester, it is important to hold the ring in one hand, while you hold the tester in the other. While the tester works the way you used it, by holding the ring it completes an electrical circuit through your body and allows the METAL ALERT function to work. While it very rarely occurs in nature, diamonds in general aren't electrically conductive, yet moissanite is electrically conductive. When testing for diamonds, we test for the stones thermal conductivity. When testing for moissanite, we are testing to see if the stone is electrically conductive. We use both thermal and electrical conductivity tests simultaneously to screen out moissanite, since moissanite is both thermally conductive and electrically conductive. Unfortunately, metal is electrically conductive as well, so if you accidentally hit a prong on the setting, if you're not holding the ring, the stone could appear to test as moissanite. If you are holding the ring when doing this, the metal alert feature will activate to warn you that you hit the prong. There are two methods for producing a lab grown diamond, HPHT and CVD. This is important because HPHT diamonds are also electrically conductive, while most CVD diamonds aren't. What this means is that if you test an HPHT lab grown diamond, don't be surprised if it tests as moissanite since they are both electrically conductive! Most all lab grown diamonds have a laser inscription on the stones girdle that has the stones lab grading report on it, that identifies it as a lab grown diamond. When viewed with a 20x loupe or magnifier or microscope, the report number will start with LG, which stands for Lab Grown. I hope this help!
Thanks for all this info! I recently purchased a HPHT LG diamond and your tester was used and it did test as moissanite. I ended up going to another jeweler who also used your tester and it came back moissanite. I was kinda freaking out tbh. The jeweler had just happened to purchase a brand new tester that had just arrived the day before and he was still learning how to use it and he did use it on my stone and it did come back as a lab grown HPHT which calmed my nerves after. I do wish that more jewelers have this knowledge about your testers bc the first guy didn’t. I’m glad the 2nd jeweler was aware and that is why he upgraded his testers with all the new technology nowadays with stones.
I wish more manufacturers would jump in on non sponsored videos and add more background the way Danny Kessler did here. He added a lot orf really useful info.
@LauraSim407 Laura your lab grown diamond test as a moissanite because it's electrically conductive the same as moissanite where natural diamonds are not its the easiest way to identify lab grown vs natural if your lab grown test as a moissanite that means it's a lab grown diamond and electrically conductive when they say there is no difference don't believe anybody even the guy in this video didn't use the tester right if he would have the test would of came up moissanite for the lab grown but it's simple to understand why the natural diamond market has been in existence for ages there was no way a company could create a identical diamond that would mix in with natural diamonds and diminish their value so lab grown diamonds are made with boron a simple electric conductive chemical it makes identifying both extremely easy now a 1700 royal diamond can't be mistaken for a lab grown fraud claiming to be the same everybody in the diamond industry knows this but the public like always gets mislead into purchasing a knock off product that has little to no value but the sad part is your still paying thousands of dollars for a lab grown when they are practically worthless and will continue to decline in value as more and more are made where natural diamonds have held value historically and currently in terms of investment wise a natural diamond is 100× better especially if you hand it down to future generations where a lab grown diamond if it's passed down to future generations they are just going to tell them when they sell it it's not valuable at all
All these people complaining that it's not a real diamond. Sorry to burst your bubble, but lab grown diamonds are real diamonds. It's like comparing glacier ice vs freezer ice, THEY'RE BOTH ICE. Lab grown is the way to go these days anyways, all this mining is damaging the earth.
@obicapa It's not about the value it's about the beauty, plus diamonds aren't actually rare anyway, they just cost a bunch due to strategic marketing in the 1950's.
dixiechic60 That's really unfair and rather dishonest. Mining for natural resources can be a civilized activity, but nothing in Africa is civilized. It really doesn't matter what the business is.
We chose lab grown over mined diamond. The jeweler was unhappy with us for not buying a "natural" stone from him, but put it in my ring. He refused to give any warranty for his work and told me my stone would break within a year. It's been 15 years, and it looks just as lovely.
that's so insane that someone would say that. it makes no sense; it's literally the same thing. sounds like he was bitter he wasn't getting an (even) larger commission check.
My husband surprised me with a larger engagement ring. We opted for lab grown this time. The clarity and sparkle are out of this world. Weeks later and I still can't take my eyes off it. And we were able get a much larger stone for our money.
When you say you opted for a lab grown diamond, where exactly did you guys look to purchase it? Id be interested in checking it out if you happen to see this comment.
If you buy your wife a dozen roses, she doesn't ask "were these grown in a greenhouse or in the wild?" Same goes for LG vs mined diamonds. The only difference is origin.
My lab grown diamond is the most gorgeous rock I've ever seen and, to be honest, it's brighter and clearer than 90% of the natural diamonds we looked at when discussing engagement. I'm glad I chose to go the lab grown route. We saved money and my oval cut lab grown diamond is the most beautiful rock I've ever seen. Even now, two years after our engagement, I'm sitting on the couch with my hand in a beam of sunlight, watching it sparkle. I never thought I'd have a decent man, let alone one that would put a ring on it so, seeing such a nice ring on my finger is like seeing a unicorn on my couch. I can't help but stare in disbelief! Haha.
@@kristenkillen You could've used a CZ as well. Those sparkle too in light..............Jesus Christ...........You guys sure do made a research on how to buy a wedding ring ! 😂
@@Pelegrino1925 why are you bitter over someone else's wedding ring? Because I love my husband and love the ring he bought me? I chose the cheaper option with lab grown diamonds because he originally wanted to get a natural diamond priced over 10 grand but, go ahead and make the wrong assumption that it was I who demanded the rock. How bout instead of criticizing other people's choice of rings, you focus on what you're gonna put on your own woman's hand and if she'll even accept it? 🤔 and CZ's might sparkle under light but, they break and chip like glass so, good luck with that.
@jazzmenrain thank you! I'm very lucky to be married to him, now! We actually eloped a little after my original comment, and we just celebrated our one year anniversary. We said "Fuck the wedding," we only cared about the marriage, so we signed papers with our officiant, filed at the courthouse, and had a hell of a catered kegger with our friends and family before running off on our honeymoon. Best. Husband. Ever!
That's because a lab grown diamond is identical down to the atomic level. As a chemist with engineering experience in chemical vapor deposition I guarantee they ARE IDENTICAL. The best way to prove a diamond is"natural"would be to show all the inclusions and defects only seen with a microscope. Ask the lab to put in a spec or inclusion in thjer perfect lab grown diamond and you could sell it to a chump at a higher price saying "look, it's REAL naturaldiamnd, it's got a defect" LOL
its like the "industrial style" furniture revolution where "shit" furniture gets so expensive because with modern technology you can produce high quality stuff so easy that it became more expensive to make lesser quality. Sounds stupid but thats economy with technology.
Has anyone here complaining about a lab diamonds value, ever tried selling a so-called real genuine earth grown diamond? Probably not. That’s because I have a 2 CT earth grown VVS1 diamond GIA and have tried selling it and guess what? I have gotten pathetic offers compared for how much I actually paid for it. Do not buy an earth grown diamond thinking you will have a better resale value. As I’ve learned the hard way- All diamonds have crap resale value.. so don’t even try to fall for that. And yes I agree with this video 100%. Definitely not buying an earth grown diamond again! Please don’t waste your hard earned money on this money making monopoly and control which DeBeers has.. wait let me ask you something, when you look at a diamond can you tell if it’s GIA or IGI certified? Think about it for a second! Same thing and concept goes with earth vs lab grown diamond. Thank you for this informative video!!
sean rogan LOL That was the entire point of my message! And the diamond supply is definitely controlled buddy. Well I’m glad you agree- don’t throw your money away. Buy a nice watch instead!
M K you said deBeers has a monopoly on the diamond market and they do not. They have maybe a 20% share of mine claims under their control. you clearly know nothing about the diamond market. A 2ct diamond isn’t really rare there’s plenty of them for dealers to buy from other dealers for the wholesale price. You went to a store and paid the retail mark up and now you’re upset that you can’t get any dealers to pay you more than the wholesale price of the diamond. Well newsflash mr born yesterday, like every commodity in every industry on the earth, the retail price is not what industry people pay. As far as your dumb question about whether you can tell by looking at it if it’s certified, obviously that is not the point of the certification. Diamonds vary wildly in value and without the cert, and untrained person like you can’t tell what they’re looking at to know if they’re worth their price. A nice diamond is a nice diamond with or without a certificate but a shit diamond can easily be passed off as a good one to customers without a certificate providing an expert opinion as to its quality. You will also absolutely get a better resale price for a certified earth mined diamond than the same diamond that was lab grown. That’s just a fact. Will you get 90% of the retail value by selling it back to a wholesale dealer? No obviously not. You definitely can by selling it directly to a consumer tho. But that’s hard because you don’t personally know anyone buying a diamond. If only you could find someone to do that for you for a few... oh wait! you think your watch or your car will get full retail value when you go to sell it, if you sell to a dealer? Obviously not. It’s the same with literally everything. You complaining about it just indicates you don’t understand how the world works.
sean rogan OK bro you win. My point was simply to state that you should not spend your money on a stupid diamond if you can buy a cheaper one a.k.a. A lab grown one.
I think when you sell your jewelry, you will never get the amount that you paid. Buyers will almost never pay retail. But I understand your comment about pathetic low-ball offers.
I stayed away from lab grown stones because the few times I tried using them years ago, customers said no, they wanted real. Recently have be learning how the acceptance of lab grown stones has become much more acceptable as more customers are becoming educated as well. This was a brilliant test. Thanks!
@@none360business6 the same way that ice created in your freezer is the same thing as ice you find outside. It has the same properties, same chemical makeup, structure etc. I never understood why mined diamonds are so much more valuable than lab created outside of vanity and the absurd markups created by a monopolized diamond industry. They are unethical too
@@theshadowfax239 this is wrong. Natural diamonds are not rare at all. The scarcity is artificially created by the diamond industry... Only museum quality diamonds are rare.
It may be but he is lying about the Moisanitte being a real diamond. It is not a mined diamond or a man-made diamond. It is s diamond simulant just like the CZ,Yag and many other stones they sell to look like diamonds. Also, Moissanite is not a 10 on the MOHS scale and not the correct specific gravity of a diamond.. Many of the Moisannite do not test diamond as well. What would he have done if it did not register diamond? He did not tell you that Moisanitte has a number laser engraved on the girld and the man-made diamonds as well and it is on the certs sent with the stones.
@gregglyell1601 Good job you are correct that their is a difference but Moissanite is a seperate stone than diamond when people think lab grown diamond sometimes they think it's a moissanite but that's not the case here it's a lab grown diamond and will test as a moissanite especially with that tester that he's using but he didn't use it correctly the difference between lab grown and natural that nobody talks about is their chemical structure natural diamonds are not electricly conductive where lab grown diamonds are that's why you get a moissanite reading on lab grown diamonds they made it that way to simply be able to identify both
I got a lab-grown diamond when I got my engagement ring 5 years ago. I love it- it’s so great to know that no one was killed, and no mining was done to get it. It is engraved on the side with ‘lab grown’ and the IGI registration number. So there is no cover-up trying to make it appear to be a mined diamond.
I have a lab-grown diamond engagement ring, I love the fact that I have a conflict-free, higher clarity, carat size and with fewer imperfections for a fraction of the cost compared to an earth-grown diamond. I love that I can wear it guilt-free and man is it stunning!
Fun fact : Lab grown diamonds are 100% carbon Natural diamonds are 97-99.9% carbon +oxygen and nitrogen So basically, lab grown diamonds are more diamonds than natural diamonds
Just because they have more carbon doesn’t make them more of a natural diamond opposed to a mined one that came from the EARTH and not a lab. Mined diamonds are what they are composed of alone with no help or influence. The whole meaning of natural is something growing, processing, or coming about without the interference or control of mankind, besides a man’s sperm reproducing a human being which is an entire different species/property however you understand what I’m insinuating. Hence; photosynthesis.
@@jamasawilson7546 diamonds aren't rare and they're s scam They're the same thing, same process, same components/chemicals and visuals, it's like saying a Flower in a Plant Pot isn't natural and isnt a flower because it's not naturally from the earth
@@jamasawilson7546 Um, every diamond has impurities, but by definition diamond is pure Carbon in a crystalline format. It is these impurities that determines how diamonds are graded, the purer the higher the value. Lab grown diamonds overall have less impurities than mined diamonds. So yes, less impurity does make it "more" diamond.
My boyfriend bought me lab-grown diamond earrings for Christmas this year and you can see those things sparkling from a mile away. Definitely the way to go!
Diamonds don’t cause any suffering. That movie was highly inaccurate. I live in a 3rd world country where diamonds are mined and they’ve created jobs, built roads, school etc. A lot of the revenues also go towards caring for the environment and helping animals. So I don’t appreciate this video one bit. I think more research was needed because I doubt he knows much.
@@tinotendamabhudhu4198 Yeah yeah and I'm sure the 3.7 million dead people from blood diamonds, destroyed ecosystems, military revolutions is totally worth it as long as a few corrupt politicians make bank and the west gets cheap diamonds.
I work in a pawn shop and we have a similar tester. I call it “Operation for Grownups” b/c every time my shaky caffeinated hands make it touch metal it buzzes so loud. 😂
To me, lab grown diamonds are a no-brainer. To those that claim that mined diamonds are better, allow me to remind you that pearls for the last 100 years have been semi artificial 🤷 (it's still the pearl oysters doing the work, but they are artificially seeded)
I would imagine some of you watching this video are coming here concerned with whether or not a lab-grown diamond is "good enough". Today, I bought a lab-grown diamond for my future fiancee and I was initially feeling iffy about buying a lab-grown diamond. Once I got over myself and realized it literally doesn't matter, I could enjoy the fact that I bought a near perfect, 1 carat diamond for way cheaper than any mined-diamond with similar clarity/color would have been. Best of all, she's going to love it because it isn't about the diamond or where it came from anyway, it's about who is giving it to her and what it symbolizes. Also, I didn't buy this diamond for its resale value. Who the fuck buys an engagement ring and worries about resale value? I thought you wanted to be with this person forever? I bought it because I love who I'm giving it to and personally, I think it's absolutely beautiful. On top of all of that, it was way cheaper than a mined-diamond! So basically, my point is quit worrying about whatever "stigma" you think will come from buying a lab-grown diamond and just do it. They're beautiful, they're real, and fuck what anyone else thinks.
You summarized my very own experience, word for word. It's literally the societal standards yelling in your head "if it's not natural it's not ~real~" all for you to fork over a lot more money for less bang. The fact that it comes with additional pluses like less environmental impact and no conflict makes it an even better buy. All in all, it's the symbolism it holds between two lovers that gives it its true value. Great comment, thank you sir.
Of course they won't! In time people will want real diamonds again and the price will sky rocket due to the demand (as minning will stop the prices will go up) you buy fake diamonds (moissanite, CS, glass) then they will be cheap because your buying a cheap stone. Its like gold rings! A plated gold ring tho it looks like gold will never be worth what a REAL solid gold ring is worth! Jewellers will tell you go for moissanite because it cost them pennies and they make hundreds/thousands from silly uneducated people.
@@jlo1423 if you try and sell a diamond you get pretty much nothing and its not kind how they mine them soo yeah. Would never own a diamond. Just curious to see.
This is so GREAT! It's such a joy to find out exploitive companies can be pushed out, keeping our earth and people a little bit more intact while still having a product for jewelcrafters and jewel lovers
They're laser scribed as LG then serial number, always ask for certificate and use a tool to check the serial number to you're getting what you want and the right one.
@@rodey6594 True. But I think this tool to see the serial number is not readily available to the average consumer. The jeweler uses a device that looks like a type of microscope.
Love this! I just told my boyfriend that i want a lab grown diamond if he ever buys me a diamond and informed him on all the points you made in this video. Thank you for sharing
Awesome video! The TH-cam algorithm has been suggesting the hell out of this video for the last two weeks, so I thought I'd finally watch it 😂 I don't know if maybe it's the quality of lab grown supplied, but I work for a jeweller who contracts to a major jewellery retailer. We deal with hundreds of repairs a week and we find we can quench a natural diamond and apply a lot of direct heat to them no problem, but we treat lab grown diamonds like sapphires and find they are more likely to crack when quenching or applying a lot of heat, so we treat them like they're not a diamond. But they certainly look like a diamond 🙂
Thanks so much for this video! For my 25th anniversary my husband wanted to get me a really nice diamond. I just couldn’t allow him to spend that much money on a gift for me. After a lot of research I went with a lab created diamond. We were able to get a beautiful ring to commemorate our 25th anniversary and go on a wonderful trip with the money we saved. It is nice to know that even though we saved money I do in fact have a diamond!
Congrats 💙👍I want to know is lab created real I purchased a pear shape pink stimulated ring from jc penny the original price was 624 got it for half the price
It took me about ten years, but I finally bought a lab diamond for my wife and I was able to afford what I would have never had if it was mined. I say ten years because I have been paying attention and I am noticing how people are slowly transitioning. First, my cousin who is an avid lover of diamonds and has resources as well. She purchased a lab diamond years ago and what is interesting is that instead of concealing that detail, she brings it up as if proud that it is a lab diamond. She feels better knowing there is no risk slavery or abusive practices were applied, and no pristine land was violated and destroyed in the process. And, hers is a CVD, so it is pure, 100% carbon, colorless and absolutely stunning. In fact, the only way to know would be spending tens of thousands of dollars in equipment most jewelers do not have, to then analyze the gases inside the stone to figure out if it is mined (gas compositions 100 miles inside the Earth, or nitrogen and methane used in CVD. Yet, it s nothing different than a diamond. My analogy is that 100 years ago, gentlemen bought flowers for ladies on the street, from girls who picked up the flowers from nature, in other words, their local fields. Now, they buy them in stores that get them from green houses, controlled environments, so they are bigger and in custody while they grow and with fertilizers from bags instead of natural top soils....Nevertheless, they are BOTH flowers, natural flowers, one is not monitored and therefore it is random and the risk makes it less likely that a perfect flower is found, the other is closely watched and protected from diseases, etc. They are both flowers and no lady would ever think twice. And, yes, I am sure that some scientist can test them both and discover the one from the valley/field based on the nutrients and composition, but one is not less a flower than the other. Same with water, you can make ice from the freezer or go outside to the lake and get the ice naturally from the weather. Any idiot knows one will show tap water with fluoride when tested and the other is rain water with some impurities from the lake. THEY ARE BOTH ICE, made form water. Different ingredients, which are not necessary to call it ice are present in both, but what makes it ice, FROZEN WATER, is in each of them. In my case, our diamond was made with care for my wife, and I got to choose exactly how I wanted it to be, look, cut and size. It is as unique...it is not less valuable, is just that DeBeers hide/control/limit the supply thus artificially raising the market price. So, I would rather pay for what a lab diamond costs (significantly less nowadays and the price seemed to stabilize) because there is labor involved, there is also craftsmanship by perusing the stone, deciding how to cut, polishing, the equipment and energy to make it, etc. We know how much it costs to be profitable to them, rather than be taken for a fool and charge ten times more viciously for a mined when we know it costs actually less since the miner is a pauper who makes $5 a week and is not heavy to ship it to Europe since you could even fit hundreds in your pockets. Hence, I am afraid it costs less to mine a diamond than to produce it, but at least the lab diamond people do not betray our trust.
I have a couple of lab diamond pendants and some natural ones but the labs were way more affordable and still shine just as much. Definitely cant tell if its natural or lab either so labs are pretty neat.👌
When people ask about my lab grown diamond being real, I explain the process (in a nutshell) then always compare it to a baby. Baby’s can be fertilized in a lab and they are still real babies. As long as the same components are made to make a diamond, just as a baby, then they are both just as real lab or traditionally grown. That’s my take on it when some people want to turn their noses to it. I think lab grown diamonds are fantastic! Thanks for the video 😁
The babies example usually gets weird looks so I compare it to something like vegetables. They can be grown out in the wild, but we can also grow them in stuff like hydroponics. The end result is the same; a tomato.
FERRARI REPLICA ISTILL FERRARI OR NOT ? POWDER FLOUR DIAMOND ???IN RUSSIA THEY WORK IN NATURAL STONE AND THE GARBAGE OF THE NATURAL DIAMOND YOU CAN CREAT ANOTER GMO DIAMOND???
@@kmjandrews3312 that's like saying that the chicken we eat isn't real because animals should be out in the wild and not in human made farms. Bro this is not a replica, you can tell if a ferrari Is real or not but even a jeweller can't tell if a diamond is mined or lab made
The day after our 17th anniversary, the natural diamond on my wife's engagement ring was lost when a prong broke. Lab diamond prices have come down tremendously to the point where we're replacing her stone with a LG diamond (1.27 ctw, E, VS1, ideal cut) for around $600! We're thrilled this option exists! Her new stone is larger and has better grades than the original (though we're still searching the house because there's nothing like the FIRST ring).
Thanks for this video. My engagement ring is a mined diamond in a solitaire setting which I've had for over 20 years, and it's beautiful. I love it. I've been following the development of lab-grown diamonds for 10 years, and once there were jewelry-grade diamonds available, I purchased my first lab-grown diamond ring in 14K Rose Gold band with small 1 pt diamonds for a special teenager. I think it's a great option. However, producing a lab-grown diamond uses expends a lot of energy; it's not exactly earth-friendly either! So, mined and lab-grown both have benefits and drawbacks depending on where and how the mined diamond is sourced. Both are beautiful! I can say that lab-grown diamonds have amazing scintillation. They are of high color /clarity, and the cut proportions are ideal, even on the tiny diamonds. A Moissanite is not a diamond or diamond simulant, and it's easy to tell the difference between a diamond (mined or lab-grown) and moissanite by the appearance of a moissanite faceting; it has less scintillation than a good cut diamond but possibly more fire depending on many different aspects of the moissanite. It's a rare, natural crystal. I don't like it, but that's the great thing about choice, we all have one. It's pretty petty to be arguing over them.
Thank you! Everyone talks about lab grown diamonds as being so ethical but they cause a lot of pollution! I'm not saying one option is better than the other, everyone has to do what they think is best, but it's important to talk about the pros and cons on both sides to make a proper decision!
Diamonds are a scam. Completely worthless stones. Think about it, cultures that historically never used diamonds as a token of love, now partake in the partake in the practice. That's marketing. De Beers, the original Diamond Cartel, had a massive supply of diamonds and they couldn't sell them so they started advertising and purposely limiting supply to create the illusion that they were in fact rare. It's a joke but unfortunately, we partake.
It’s not worthless if someone had to mine it? Are you out of your mind? It does t matter who’s been using it or not etc. it sells and always will. Of course people don’t have to go out and have to spend half of their life saving (you know what I mean), but they do hold value. Or else all jewellery stores would be out of business
Raul Medina i dont think you understand: a lab grown diamond is every bit a “diamond” as one that came from the ground. If a lab grown diamond were to “break”, an earth one would too. There is literally no difference between the two, with the exception of where they were made.
jc neto natural diamonds are worth essentially nothing when you try to sell them anyway, usually less than 20% of its purchased value. If you buy a natural diamond for $20,000, you would probably get $4,000 for it when you try to sell it again. Meanwhile you can get the same diamond lab grown for ~$7,500, so your savings still far outweigh the loss if we assume a lab grown resale value of $0 (unrealistic).
Raul Medina where the fuck did you get that idea 🤣 the composition a lab diamond is the same as a mined diamond, they’re literally the same thing, lab diamonds ARE DIAMONDS 🤦🏻♂️
Easy moral to the story: If someone is losing money on their store and tells you not to buy something that saves you money, you should definitely buy the thing that saves you money. Lab grown diamonds are the EXACT same thing as natural. Except: guaranteed no one died in a mine or was a slave to get you your diamond. Since no one else will say it...
I just purchased a lab grown pink 1.5 CT diamond ring for £65. I'm very happy with it, and I think it's absolutely gorgeous. Will definitely be buying more.
Diamonds are pure coal atoms interconnected in a crystal pattern. To be exact: Diamond's cubic structure is in the Fd3m space group, which follows the face-centered cubic Bravais lattice. This can be done with any pure coal under high pressure and temperature. So a lab grown diamond is 100% equal to a “natural” diamond. Problem is that diamond companies try to say that this is not the same as they will lose a lot of money. But this is FUD.
@@moderngoldsmith ofcourse they limit the supply to make it seems rare for a hundred years.. especially the vintage company that still running these days
@@moderngoldsmith Lab grown diamonds cause HELLA pollution tho, not that natural diamonds are great for the earth but if you're going to compare then talk about all sides of the coin
Ive had my new lab grown 3 stone ring for 4 months and i still get distracted by the sparkle! They are stunning! Highly recommend. And it cost WAAAYYY less than the natural lesser clarity ring in the same style.
Thank you for this video. If you could say there are disadvantages to lab grown compared to "natural," what would they be? Uncertainty of value over time?
DTOWN King LJ 6 I would say that would probably be the biggest. As more lab grown diamonds are manufactured there is a chance the prices will drop. That being said, the idea that natural diamonds hold their value is also untrue and an illusion sold to us by the diamond industry.
You really have educated me on this topic. Lol I wasn't sold until the moment you started listing the ethics one could abide by, by choosing lab grown diamonds over diamonds grown in Earth. I personally love the sentiment of it being grown in Earth naturally. But I'm sold on lab grown diamonds because of the ethics. Thanks man :)
Lab grown diamonds aren't environmentally friendly either. This video doesn't mention how much energy it takes to make them and how much pollution those labs produce. I'm not saying one is better but to make a decision you have to weigh all of the pros and all of the cons.
I like the fact that lab grown are just more humane, often look more dazzling than a natural stone, and you get way more stone for the price. Makes for a happy future wife. She definitely wasn't expecting the one I gave her, she was stunned and loves it.
What people dont realize is that natural diamonds lose a TON of value compared to what you pay for them. That 3 karat engagement ring you paid $7500 for will get you $2k if youre lucky.
It really depends on the other 3 characteristics as well. On withclarity.com, a site which is really transparent about all aspects of each diamond, you can find 2.2 carat lab diamonds from 2.6k to 10.8k. All depends on cut, clarity, and color. If you learn how best to balance these attributes, you can probably get a bigger diamond for the same price with no visible occlusions or noticeable color.
U got it backwards you moron. Natural stones hold their value. Lab stones will be a quarter of their value within the next 5 years. If you’re worried about losing money go natural.
I was looking to buy lab grown diamonds recently and the seller told me there is a difference between cvd and some other type. Basically saying that one would test real and the other wouldn’t. Do you know anything about this?
One positive note about lab grown diamond is that the price is base on the work it takes to create your own diamond as compared to natural diamond which are wildly abundance but artificially suppressed to create scarcity.
I never know there are diamonds done in a lap, this is so cool. I am not a big diamond fan because I like colorfull stones more but this is so cool are there other stones too to grow? like saphire or emeralds?
So I’m a huge fan of the lab grown diamond, I work at Jared’s and they’re pretty awesome and very popular. The resale value is low though, they are definitely for the couple that cares more about the sentiment than the long term value of the stone.
I prefer Mossionite to diamonds,because I will not patronize the Diamond Cartel ! I have both.My best genuine diamond was purchased for 124 dollars in a ring from a pawn shop .My jeweler was so impressed with the quality of it,she set it for me in my own ring!
He works with both stones! He made me a Moissanite ring and I love it! Whichever stone you choose, they each have positive qualities and you can't go wrong!
@@rachaelesque3 that is so nice! I’m so sentimentally attached to the idea of diamonds and can only hope to reduce that so that I can totally consider and appreciate other options lol! I bet your ring looks gorgeous! 😀
Came from Ariana Grande video, stayed for the personality 😎 (BTW I'm LOVING your relaxing voice-over videos, especially after a stressful work day... please make more!)
Great video ! Thank you for sharing. I have a question, I read this- There are 2 kinds of LAB GROWN DIAMONDS. CVD Lab grown diamonds and HPHT Lab grown diamonds. The difference between the CVD and HPHT Lab Grown Diamond is the CVD Lab grown diamond will react to a diamond detector pen and the HPHT Lab Grown Diamond will not, making the HPHT Lab Diamond cheaper than the CVD Lab Grown Diamond.... Is this accurate? And why? Both processes create real genuine diamonds 🤔
That's a very brilliant question, Amanda! This is completely normal and nothing to worry about. The tester tests a diamond by its heat conductivity. As you rightly pointed out, There are two methods to grow a lab diamond one is HPHT and the other is CVD. The diamond grown by the CVD method is a type 2a diamond which tests as diamonds in the pen tester but the one grown by HPHT is a type 2 in which the arrangement of impurity in the material makes it semi-conductive at times. And this also happens in the natural diamond of type 2 but since they are very rare in natural the pen tester was a safe device to use. But for lab-grown, the pen tester is not an ideal device to test it as diamond. However, the latest technology pen-tester detects an HPHT stone as a diamond. For assurance, you can send it to the lab which has more sophisticated equipment to test, and also there is a lab report for the bigger stone out of there that says it's a lab-grown diamond.
From what I nderstand it’s HOW they’re created will determine a pass on the tester. HPHT vs. CVD. I believe CVD will pass but the HPHT will not. Please correct me if I’m wrong.
I had this conversation with a jeweller the other day, so frustrating when people swallow all of the propaganda thrown at them by De Beers...nice to see someone in the industry talking about it openly.
I'm totally not into jewelry so please forgive my ignorance but in which ways is a zirconia worse than a diamond? Obviously the diamond is physically tougher than just about anything else, but apart from that? In the video the zirconia looks pretty much the same. Does it degrade quickly? Or is it not as pretty when viewed in person?
Diamond! Diamond! heh, because it IS a real diamond and extremely common. The only difference is the diamond cartel aren't limiting them in the marketplace nor sitting on tons of them in vaults.
@@danielmolina4216 Lol not always true. My bf has the means but I specifically said not to buy the natural diamond because it's not conflict-free. But I'd say that to a moissanite lol Yeah, there's nothing wrong with that but it's just a wannabe diamond in my opinion lol
@@xxsam0917xx moissanite is from a star. It was so tiny that they couldn't even make a pair of earrings with it. It's definitely not a diamond wannabe. It's a beauty beyond our reach. It's a gift from above I would say. Just my 2 cents.
@@bellayang6993 I mean it has its own beauty and an alternative to a diamond. "Moissanite is engineered to give the illusion of similarity to diamonds." A wannabe diamond is a lack of a better word.
Rubies will most likely test as a sapphire as long as color doesn't factor into the tester's reading. Rubies and sapphires are both made of corundum, the color is really the only difference.
A lab grown diamond under a “loupe” will have clear streaks running throughout, a natural diamond will have black “specs” that are pieces of charcoal found throughout. If both are looked at under a loop the natural diamond and lab grown diamond can 100% easily be differentiated. Not trying to dismiss this video, but the actual facts should be put out for consumers to know.
Yossi Lipton that was true at one point in time, however there are now diamond scanners (running thousands of dollars) that can determine how the diamond was formed, thus you can differentiate. Unless you have one of these scanners, no traditional method will work (even for trained gemologists!) One thing however is Lab-grown diamonds are mostly laser inscribed on the girdle with a serial number which can be traced to the grading report, identifying it as a lab grown stone!
Glad you found my video! To purchase a lab-grown diamond or learn more, feel free to contact me - moderngoldsmith.com/contact/
So basically it’s no way to tell the difference?
@@hotfire9038 The only way to tell the difference is by using a very expensive scanning machine which can tell how they were formed. That's it. Also, most lab-grown diamonds will be laser inscribed with a serial number which identifies them as lab-grown. This is because visually it's impossible to tell the difference.
How can I get that diamond test
@Humble Grumble faxxxx
do a vid where you test sapphires
Hi Modern Goldsmith, I'm from GEMORO, the manufacturer of the Testerossa tester you are using in your video. THANK YOU so much for providing this super informative video! 100% of what you are saying is correct. There are two types of diamonds, ones that come from below the earth (mined), and ones that come from above the earth (lab grown). Both are 100% diamonds.
I did want to add some more to the info provided to your viewers. First of all, when using our tester, it is important to hold the ring in one hand, while you hold the tester in the other. While the tester works the way you used it, by holding the ring it completes an electrical circuit through your body and allows the METAL ALERT function to work. While it very rarely occurs in nature, diamonds in general aren't electrically conductive, yet moissanite is electrically conductive. When testing for diamonds, we test for the stones thermal conductivity. When testing for moissanite, we are testing to see if the stone is electrically conductive. We use both thermal and electrical conductivity tests simultaneously to screen out moissanite, since moissanite is both thermally conductive and electrically conductive. Unfortunately, metal is electrically conductive as well, so if you accidentally hit a prong on the setting, if you're not holding the ring, the stone could appear to test as moissanite. If you are holding the ring when doing this, the metal alert feature will activate to warn you that you hit the prong.
There are two methods for producing a lab grown diamond, HPHT and CVD. This is important because HPHT diamonds are also electrically conductive, while most CVD diamonds aren't. What this means is that if you test an HPHT lab grown diamond, don't be surprised if it tests as moissanite since they are both electrically conductive! Most all lab grown diamonds have a laser inscription on the stones girdle that has the stones lab grading report on it, that identifies it as a lab grown diamond. When viewed with a 20x loupe or magnifier or microscope, the report number will start with LG, which stands for Lab Grown.
I hope this help!
Yes it helped a lot! Thanks Danny.
Thanks for all this info! I recently purchased a HPHT LG diamond and your tester was used and it did test as moissanite. I ended up going to another jeweler who also used your tester and it came back moissanite. I was kinda freaking out tbh. The jeweler had just happened to purchase a brand new tester that had just arrived the day before and he was still learning how to use it and he did use it on my stone and it did come back as a lab grown HPHT which calmed my nerves after. I do wish that more jewelers have this knowledge about your testers bc the first guy didn’t. I’m glad the 2nd jeweler was aware and that is why he upgraded his testers with all the new technology nowadays with stones.
I wish more manufacturers would jump in on non sponsored videos and add more background the way Danny Kessler did here. He added a lot orf really useful info.
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@LauraSim407 Laura your lab grown diamond test as a moissanite because it's electrically conductive the same as moissanite where natural diamonds are not its the easiest way to identify lab grown vs natural if your lab grown test as a moissanite that means it's a lab grown diamond and electrically conductive when they say there is no difference don't believe anybody even the guy in this video didn't use the tester right if he would have the test would of came up moissanite for the lab grown but it's simple to understand why the natural diamond market has been in existence for ages there was no way a company could create a identical diamond that would mix in with natural diamonds and diminish their value so lab grown diamonds are made with boron a simple electric conductive chemical it makes identifying both extremely easy now a 1700 royal diamond can't be mistaken for a lab grown fraud claiming to be the same everybody in the diamond industry knows this but the public like always gets mislead into purchasing a knock off product that has little to no value but the sad part is your still paying thousands of dollars for a lab grown when they are practically worthless and will continue to decline in value as more and more are made where natural diamonds have held value historically and currently in terms of investment wise a natural diamond is 100× better especially if you hand it down to future generations where a lab grown diamond if it's passed down to future generations they are just going to tell them when they sell it it's not valuable at all
All these people complaining that it's not a real diamond. Sorry to burst your bubble, but lab grown diamonds are real diamonds. It's like comparing glacier ice vs freezer ice, THEY'RE BOTH ICE. Lab grown is the way to go these days anyways, all this mining is damaging the earth.
Less people will get murdered vs mining diamonds.....Blood diamond.
@obicapa Breh, not all of us buy to resale, in the end they're all carbon atoms hahaha, so there goes your theory about em being fake.
@obicapa It's not about the value it's about the beauty, plus diamonds aren't actually rare anyway, they just cost a bunch due to strategic marketing in the 1950's.
dixiechic60 That's really unfair and rather dishonest. Mining for natural resources can be a civilized activity, but nothing in Africa is civilized. It really doesn't matter what the business is.
Holden Mcgroine Millions of people obviously disagree.
We chose lab grown over mined diamond. The jeweler was unhappy with us for not buying a "natural" stone from him, but put it in my ring. He refused to give any warranty for his work and told me my stone would break within a year. It's been 15 years, and it looks just as lovely.
Pffft how can he say that? it's not like you got hoodwinked with glass instead of diamond. I bet it will be a beautiful heirloom later on.
that's so insane that someone would say that. it makes no sense; it's literally the same thing. sounds like he was bitter he wasn't getting an (even) larger commission check.
He's mad he didn't rob you, no worries 👍
I would have thanked him and moved on to a different jeweler. If he wouldn’t guarantee his workmanship, I wouldn’t trust him.
wow! there were lab grown diamond 15 years ago? that's pretty cool!
My husband surprised me with a larger engagement ring. We opted for lab grown this time. The clarity and sparkle are out of this world. Weeks later and I still can't take my eyes off it. And we were able get a much larger stone for our money.
Congratulations on your engagement! I’m sure your ring is absolutely beautiful.
When you say you opted for a lab grown diamond, where exactly did you guys look to purchase it? Id be interested in checking it out if you happen to see this comment.
@@angelomanzi9272 James Allen is a very well known diamond dealer , they have both lab grown and lab and come with cert
Smart people. It will last as long as a mined diamond and maybe even longer.
@David Gutierrez : Who cares ... IDGAF
If you buy your wife a dozen roses, she doesn't ask "were these grown in a greenhouse or in the wild?" Same goes for LG vs mined diamonds. The only difference is origin.
Great example!
Damn good point. I'd be happy with Moissanite too
I don't know.. after a while I might make sure it's NOT a mined diamond, since i don't want that
MY GIRL WILL KICK MY ASS IF SHE FOUND OUT ABOU THE DIAMOND THAT I GAVE TO HER WAS GMO DIAMOND
And the price
My lab grown diamond is the most gorgeous rock I've ever seen and, to be honest, it's brighter and clearer than 90% of the natural diamonds we looked at when discussing engagement. I'm glad I chose to go the lab grown route. We saved money and my oval cut lab grown diamond is the most beautiful rock I've ever seen. Even now, two years after our engagement, I'm sitting on the couch with my hand in a beam of sunlight, watching it sparkle. I never thought I'd have a decent man, let alone one that would put a ring on it so, seeing such a nice ring on my finger is like seeing a unicorn on my couch. I can't help but stare in disbelief! Haha.
@Nazteh awe, someone's a sad, lonely little man. Have fun clutching your pillow tonight! I'll be in the arms of the love of my life 😘
@@kristenkillen You could've used a CZ as well. Those sparkle too in light..............Jesus Christ...........You guys sure do made a research on how to buy a wedding ring ! 😂
@@Pelegrino1925 why are you bitter over someone else's wedding ring? Because I love my husband and love the ring he bought me? I chose the cheaper option with lab grown diamonds because he originally wanted to get a natural diamond priced over 10 grand but, go ahead and make the wrong assumption that it was I who demanded the rock. How bout instead of criticizing other people's choice of rings, you focus on what you're gonna put on your own woman's hand and if she'll even accept it? 🤔 and CZ's might sparkle under light but, they break and chip like glass so, good luck with that.
@jazzmenrain thank you! I'm very lucky to be married to him, now! We actually eloped a little after my original comment, and we just celebrated our one year anniversary. We said "Fuck the wedding," we only cared about the marriage, so we signed papers with our officiant, filed at the courthouse, and had a hell of a catered kegger with our friends and family before running off on our honeymoon. Best. Husband. Ever!
That's because a lab grown diamond is identical down to the atomic level. As a chemist with engineering experience in chemical vapor deposition I guarantee they ARE IDENTICAL. The best way to prove a diamond is"natural"would be to show all the inclusions and defects only seen with a microscope. Ask the lab to put in a spec or inclusion in thjer perfect lab grown diamond and you could sell it to a chump at a higher price saying "look, it's REAL naturaldiamnd, it's got a defect" LOL
its like the "industrial style" furniture revolution where "shit" furniture gets so expensive because with modern technology you can produce high quality stuff so easy that it became more expensive to make lesser quality. Sounds stupid but thats economy with technology.
Damn what’s it like being that smart
@No No yeah you want a diamond that some child that's a slave dug up for free that he or she found by chance!
Darrell Towles makes it even better
@@dislikebutton3887 time on Earth is temporary. So such comments need not be addressed. That's God's job, and "Oh will he"
Has anyone here complaining about a lab diamonds value, ever tried selling a so-called real genuine earth grown diamond? Probably not. That’s because I have a 2 CT earth grown VVS1 diamond GIA and have tried selling it and guess what? I have gotten pathetic offers compared for how much I actually paid for it. Do not buy an earth grown diamond thinking you will have a better resale value. As I’ve learned the hard way- All diamonds have crap resale value.. so don’t even try to fall for that. And yes I agree with this video 100%. Definitely not buying an earth grown diamond again! Please don’t waste your hard earned money on this money making monopoly and control which DeBeers has.. wait let me ask you something, when you look at a diamond can you tell if it’s GIA or IGI certified? Think about it for a second! Same thing and concept goes with earth vs lab grown diamond. Thank you for this informative video!!
lol debeers hasnt got a monopoly on diamonds at all. youre just mad you spent retail on a stone and cant get it back a few years later.
sean rogan LOL That was the entire point of my message! And the diamond supply is definitely controlled buddy.
Well I’m glad you agree- don’t throw your money away. Buy a nice watch instead!
M K you said deBeers has a monopoly on the diamond market and they do not. They have maybe a 20% share of mine claims under their control. you clearly know nothing about the diamond market. A 2ct diamond isn’t really rare there’s plenty of them for dealers to buy from other dealers for the wholesale price. You went to a store and paid the retail mark up and now you’re upset that you can’t get any dealers to pay you more than the wholesale price of the diamond. Well newsflash mr born yesterday, like every commodity in every industry on the earth, the retail price is not what industry people pay. As far as your dumb question about whether you can tell by looking at it if it’s certified, obviously that is not the point of the certification. Diamonds vary wildly in value and without the cert, and untrained person like you can’t tell what they’re looking at to know if they’re worth their price. A nice diamond is a nice diamond with or without a certificate but a shit diamond can easily be passed off as a good one to customers without a certificate providing an expert opinion as to its quality.
You will also absolutely get a better resale price for a certified earth mined diamond than the same diamond that was lab grown. That’s just a fact. Will you get 90% of the retail value by selling it back to a wholesale dealer? No obviously not. You definitely can by selling it directly to a consumer tho. But that’s hard because you don’t personally know anyone buying a diamond. If only you could find someone to do that for you for a few... oh wait! you think your watch or your car will get full retail value when you go to sell it, if you sell to a dealer? Obviously not. It’s the same with literally everything. You complaining about it just indicates you don’t understand how the world works.
sean rogan OK bro you win. My point was simply to state that you should not spend your money on a stupid diamond if you can buy a cheaper one a.k.a. A lab grown one.
I think when you sell your jewelry, you will never get the amount that you paid. Buyers will almost never pay retail. But I understand your comment about pathetic low-ball offers.
I stayed away from lab grown stones because the few times I tried using them years ago, customers said no, they wanted real. Recently have be learning how the acceptance of lab grown stones has become much more acceptable as more customers are becoming educated as well. This was a brilliant test. Thanks!
Lab grown diamonds are real though
@@jbsc97 how when it says lab created
@@none360business6 the same way that ice created in your freezer is the same thing as ice you find outside. It has the same properties, same chemical makeup, structure etc. I never understood why mined diamonds are so much more valuable than lab created outside of vanity and the absurd markups created by a monopolized diamond industry. They are unethical too
@@jbsc97 they're more valuable than lab ground diamonds because they are more rare, not because they are any different in their makeup.
@@theshadowfax239 this is wrong. Natural diamonds are not rare at all. The scarcity is artificially created by the diamond industry... Only museum quality diamonds are rare.
Great video! I love how you explained the ethical part of natural diamonds vs lab grown diamonds. Really puts things into perspective!
I swear this is the only video on this subject on yt. Everyone else is so biased and uninformative
It may be but he is lying about the Moisanitte being a real diamond. It is not a mined diamond or a man-made diamond. It is s diamond simulant just like the CZ,Yag and many other stones they sell to look like diamonds. Also, Moissanite is not a 10 on the MOHS scale and not the correct specific gravity of a diamond.. Many of the Moisannite do not test diamond as well. What would he have done if it did not register diamond? He did not tell you that Moisanitte has a number laser engraved on the girld and the man-made diamonds as well and it is on the certs sent with the stones.
@gregglyell1601 Good job you are correct that their is a difference but Moissanite is a seperate stone than diamond when people think lab grown diamond sometimes they think it's a moissanite but that's not the case here it's a lab grown diamond and will test as a moissanite especially with that tester that he's using but he didn't use it correctly the difference between lab grown and natural that nobody talks about is their chemical structure natural diamonds are not electricly conductive where lab grown diamonds are that's why you get a moissanite reading on lab grown diamonds they made it that way to simply be able to identify both
I got a lab-grown diamond when I got my engagement ring 5 years ago. I love it- it’s so great to know that no one was killed, and no mining was done to get it. It is engraved on the side with ‘lab grown’ and the IGI registration number. So there is no cover-up trying to make it appear to be a mined diamond.
I have a lab-grown diamond engagement ring, I love the fact that I have a conflict-free, higher clarity, carat size and with fewer imperfections for a fraction of the cost compared to an earth-grown diamond. I love that I can wear it guilt-free and man is it stunning!
Fun fact :
Lab grown diamonds are 100% carbon
Natural diamonds are 97-99.9% carbon +oxygen and nitrogen
So basically, lab grown diamonds are more diamonds than natural diamonds
LOL good one!
Just because they have more carbon doesn’t make them more of a natural diamond opposed to a mined one that came from the EARTH and not a lab. Mined diamonds are what they are composed of alone with no help or influence. The whole meaning of natural is something growing, processing, or coming about without the interference or control of mankind, besides a man’s sperm reproducing a human being which is an entire different species/property however you understand what I’m insinuating. Hence; photosynthesis.
@@jamasawilson7546 diamonds aren't rare and they're s scam
They're the same thing, same process, same components/chemicals and visuals, it's like saying a Flower in a Plant Pot isn't natural and isnt a flower because it's not naturally from the earth
Not necessarily true. They may a small piece of a mined diamond to start with.
@@jamasawilson7546 Um, every diamond has impurities, but by definition diamond is pure Carbon in a crystalline format. It is these impurities that determines how diamonds are graded, the purer the higher the value. Lab grown diamonds overall have less impurities than mined diamonds. So yes, less impurity does make it "more" diamond.
My boyfriend bought me lab-grown diamond earrings for Christmas this year and you can see those things sparkling from a mile away. Definitely the way to go!
I am not into diamonds at all but if there are lab-grown diamonds that arent causing suffering then I would go for that.
But the suffering is what makes the diamond special 😈
DeBeers is is most successful marketing scam of all time.
@@TheSamuzas lmao imagine bragging that your natural diamond is better than a lab grown one because it caught a body trying to be mind
Diamonds don’t cause any suffering. That movie was highly inaccurate. I live in a 3rd world country where diamonds are mined and they’ve created jobs, built roads, school etc. A lot of the revenues also go towards caring for the environment and helping animals. So I don’t appreciate this video one bit. I think more research was needed because I doubt he knows much.
@@tinotendamabhudhu4198 Yeah yeah and I'm sure the 3.7 million dead people from blood diamonds, destroyed ecosystems, military revolutions is totally worth it as long as a few corrupt politicians make bank and the west gets cheap diamonds.
I work in a pawn shop and we have a similar tester. I call it “Operation for Grownups” b/c every time my shaky caffeinated hands make it touch metal it buzzes so loud. 😂
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I almost jumped at the thought of it. Like playing operation...
Thank you Jordan. That video was as beautifully pure as that lab grown diamond. I learned precisely the knowledge that I was researching for.
The algorithm worked with Ariana’s engagement ring. I’ve now subscribed. 😊 I like your videos.
Me too !!!!
Same here :)
Me, too!
Same!
Same same
The conflict free aspect of it makes it very appealing
Yes I 100% agree
Although it’s a brilliant idea what are the thousands of miners is going to do if we stop mining them? I suppose they could learn to code
I like conflicted diamonds makes the diamonds feel more valuable
if you are into that cool i will never buy one
@@TheSamuzas yikes
To me, lab grown diamonds are a no-brainer. To those that claim that mined diamonds are better, allow me to remind you that pearls for the last 100 years have been semi artificial 🤷 (it's still the pearl oysters doing the work, but they are artificially seeded)
Perfect comparison!!! exactly my point, one is controlled and there is human intervention but in both natural reactions and process happens.
I would imagine some of you watching this video are coming here concerned with whether or not a lab-grown diamond is "good enough".
Today, I bought a lab-grown diamond for my future fiancee and I was initially feeling iffy about buying a lab-grown diamond. Once I got over myself and realized it literally doesn't matter, I could enjoy the fact that I bought a near perfect, 1 carat diamond for way cheaper than any mined-diamond with similar clarity/color would have been. Best of all, she's going to love it because it isn't about the diamond or where it came from anyway, it's about who is giving it to her and what it symbolizes.
Also, I didn't buy this diamond for its resale value. Who the fuck buys an engagement ring and worries about resale value? I thought you wanted to be with this person forever? I bought it because I love who I'm giving it to and personally, I think it's absolutely beautiful. On top of all of that, it was way cheaper than a mined-diamond!
So basically, my point is quit worrying about whatever "stigma" you think will come from buying a lab-grown diamond and just do it. They're beautiful, they're real, and fuck what anyone else thinks.
You summarized my very own experience, word for word. It's literally the societal standards yelling in your head "if it's not natural it's not ~real~" all for you to fork over a lot more money for less bang. The fact that it comes with additional pluses like less environmental impact and no conflict makes it an even better buy. All in all, it's the symbolism it holds between two lovers that gives it its true value. Great comment, thank you sir.
You guys ❤️❤️❤️❤️
Best post ever from a real dude. Best of luck to you and the little lady. Rock on.
Good choice and good comment! 🌹
Do you have a vid showing appearance between moissanite, lab grown and diamond?
Of course they won't! In time people will want real diamonds again and the price will sky rocket due to the demand (as minning will stop the prices will go up) you buy fake diamonds (moissanite, CS, glass) then they will be cheap because your buying a cheap stone. Its like gold rings! A plated gold ring tho it looks like gold will never be worth what a REAL solid gold ring is worth! Jewellers will tell you go for moissanite because it cost them pennies and they make hundreds/thousands from silly uneducated people.
@@jlo1423 if you try and sell a diamond you get pretty much nothing and its not kind how they mine them soo yeah. Would never own a diamond. Just curious to see.
This is so GREAT! It's such a joy to find out exploitive companies can be pushed out, keeping our earth and people a little bit more intact while still having a product for jewelcrafters and jewel lovers
This channel is the best thing TH-cam ever recommend to me
Imagine how many diamond retailers sell lab diamonds as if they’re mined for a ridiculous price
This is my big fear, jewelers not being transparent. I would only buy earth-mined diamonds (that is my preference..) from a trusted source
Exactly!!!!
They're laser scribed as LG then serial number, always ask for certificate and use a tool to check the serial number to you're getting what you want and the right one.
@@rodey6594 True. But I think this tool to see the serial number is not readily available to the average consumer. The jeweler uses a device that looks like a type of microscope.
@@rodey6594 who's to stop me from laser scribing a genuine GIA serial number onto a lab grown?
Love this! I just told my boyfriend that i want a lab grown diamond if he ever buys me a diamond and informed him on all the points you made in this video. Thank you for sharing
Awesome video! The TH-cam algorithm has been suggesting the hell out of this video for the last two weeks, so I thought I'd finally watch it 😂
I don't know if maybe it's the quality of lab grown supplied, but I work for a jeweller who contracts to a major jewellery retailer. We deal with hundreds of repairs a week and we find we can quench a natural diamond and apply a lot of direct heat to them no problem, but we treat lab grown diamonds like sapphires and find they are more likely to crack when quenching or applying a lot of heat, so we treat them like they're not a diamond. But they certainly look like a diamond 🙂
After hearing the word diamond so much it sounds like a fake word
Try it with wolf 😂
Thanks daisy
Surprising absolutely no one... except people who don't know how lab-grown diamonds work.
Thanks so much for this video! For my 25th anniversary my husband wanted to get me a really nice diamond. I just couldn’t allow him to spend that much money on a gift for me. After a lot of research I went with a lab created diamond. We were able to get a beautiful ring to commemorate our 25th anniversary and go on a wonderful trip with the money we saved. It is nice to know that even though we saved money I do in fact have a diamond!
Congrats 💙👍I want to know is lab created real I purchased a pear shape pink stimulated ring from jc penny the original price was 624 got it for half the price
It took me about ten years, but I finally bought a lab diamond for my wife and I was able to afford what I would have never had if it was mined.
I say ten years because I have been paying attention and I am noticing how people are slowly transitioning. First, my cousin who is an avid lover of diamonds and has resources as well. She purchased a lab diamond years ago and what is interesting is that instead of concealing that detail, she brings it up as if proud that it is a lab diamond.
She feels better knowing there is no risk slavery or abusive practices were applied, and no pristine land was violated and destroyed in the process. And, hers is a CVD, so it is pure, 100% carbon, colorless and absolutely stunning. In fact, the only way to know would be spending tens of thousands of dollars in equipment most jewelers do not have, to then analyze the gases inside the stone to figure out if it is mined (gas compositions 100 miles inside the Earth, or nitrogen and methane used in CVD. Yet, it s nothing different than a diamond.
My analogy is that 100 years ago, gentlemen bought flowers for ladies on the street, from girls who picked up the flowers from nature, in other words, their local fields. Now, they buy them in stores that get them from green houses, controlled environments, so they are bigger and in custody while they grow and with fertilizers from bags instead of natural top soils....Nevertheless, they are BOTH flowers, natural flowers, one is not monitored and therefore it is random and the risk makes it less likely that a perfect flower is found, the other is closely watched and protected from diseases, etc. They are both flowers and no lady would ever think twice. And, yes, I am sure that some scientist can test them both and discover the one from the valley/field based on the nutrients and composition, but one is not less a flower than the other.
Same with water, you can make ice from the freezer or go outside to the lake and get the ice naturally from the weather. Any idiot knows one will show tap water with fluoride when tested and the other is rain water with some impurities from the lake. THEY ARE BOTH ICE, made form water. Different ingredients, which are not necessary to call it ice are present in both, but what makes it ice, FROZEN WATER, is in each of them.
In my case, our diamond was made with care for my wife, and I got to choose exactly how I wanted it to be, look, cut and size. It is as unique...it is not less valuable, is just that DeBeers hide/control/limit the supply thus artificially raising the market price. So, I would rather pay for what a lab diamond costs (significantly less nowadays and the price seemed to stabilize) because there is labor involved, there is also craftsmanship by perusing the stone, deciding how to cut, polishing, the equipment and energy to make it, etc. We know how much it costs to be profitable to them, rather than be taken for a fool and charge ten times more viciously for a mined when we know it costs actually less since the miner is a pauper who makes $5 a week and is not heavy to ship it to Europe since you could even fit hundreds in your pockets. Hence, I am afraid it costs less to mine a diamond than to produce it, but at least the lab diamond people do not betray our trust.
I have a couple of lab diamond pendants and some natural ones but the labs were way more affordable and still shine just as much. Definitely cant tell if its natural or lab either so labs are pretty neat.👌
Where did you cope your jewelry
Would love to see you test Moissanite and white Sapphire too!
Me too, particularly a Moissanite
Appreciated
When people ask about my lab grown diamond being real, I explain the process (in a nutshell) then always compare it to a baby. Baby’s can be fertilized in a lab and they are still real babies. As long as the same components are made to make a diamond, just as a baby, then they are both just as real lab or traditionally grown. That’s my take on it when some people want to turn their noses to it. I think lab grown diamonds are fantastic! Thanks for the video 😁
The babies example usually gets weird looks so I compare it to something like vegetables. They can be grown out in the wild, but we can also grow them in stuff like hydroponics. The end result is the same; a tomato.
Hey lab grown or not, still a diamond. Cool vid
FERRARI REPLICA ISTILL FERRARI OR NOT ?
POWDER FLOUR DIAMOND ???IN RUSSIA THEY WORK IN NATURAL STONE AND THE GARBAGE OF THE NATURAL DIAMOND YOU CAN CREAT ANOTER GMO DIAMOND???
@@kmjandrews3312 How can it be genetically modified when it doesn’t have genes?
@@kmjandrews3312 that's like saying that the chicken we eat isn't real because animals should be out in the wild and not in human made farms. Bro this is not a replica, you can tell if a ferrari Is real or not but even a jeweller can't tell if a diamond is mined or lab made
@@kmjandrews3312 lab grown diamonds are more diamond that “natural diamonds”
Lab grown doesn’t have the impurities that “natural ones”
The day after our 17th anniversary, the natural diamond on my wife's engagement ring was lost when a prong broke. Lab diamond prices have come down tremendously to the point where we're replacing her stone with a LG diamond (1.27 ctw, E, VS1, ideal cut) for around $600! We're thrilled this option exists! Her new stone is larger and has better grades than the original (though we're still searching the house because there's nothing like the FIRST ring).
Thanks for this video. My engagement ring is a mined diamond in a solitaire setting which I've had for over 20 years, and it's beautiful. I love it. I've been following the development of lab-grown diamonds for 10 years, and once there were jewelry-grade diamonds available, I purchased my first lab-grown diamond ring in 14K Rose Gold band with small 1 pt diamonds for a special teenager. I think it's a great option. However, producing a lab-grown diamond uses expends a lot of energy; it's not exactly earth-friendly either! So, mined and lab-grown both have benefits and drawbacks depending on where and how the mined diamond is sourced. Both are beautiful! I can say that lab-grown diamonds have amazing scintillation. They are of high color /clarity, and the cut proportions are ideal, even on the tiny diamonds. A Moissanite is not a diamond or diamond simulant, and it's easy to tell the difference between a diamond (mined or lab-grown) and moissanite by the appearance of a moissanite faceting; it has less scintillation than a good cut diamond but possibly more fire depending on many different aspects of the moissanite. It's a rare, natural crystal. I don't like it, but that's the great thing about choice, we all have one. It's pretty petty to be arguing over them.
Thank you! Everyone talks about lab grown diamonds as being so ethical but they cause a lot of pollution! I'm not saying one option is better than the other, everyone has to do what they think is best, but it's important to talk about the pros and cons on both sides to make a proper decision!
thank you for this information. this is definitely something to consider for me in my future purchases.
Diamonds are a scam. Completely worthless stones. Think about it, cultures that historically never used diamonds as a token of love, now partake in the partake in the practice. That's marketing. De Beers, the original Diamond Cartel, had a massive supply of diamonds and they couldn't sell them so they started advertising and purposely limiting supply to create the illusion that they were in fact rare. It's a joke but unfortunately, we partake.
I agree
True!
It’s not worthless if someone had to mine it? Are you out of your mind? It does t matter who’s been using it or not etc. it sells and always will.
Of course people don’t have to go out and have to spend half of their life saving (you know what I mean), but they do hold value. Or else all jewellery stores would be out of business
What is the difference between CVD and HTHP diamonds?
I love my Lab Grown Diamond. I was able to get more bang for the buck and double the carat. and D, VVSI, brilliant cut..it's beautiful!!!
Lab grown is the way to go. Absolutely no reason to buy a mined diamond over a lab grown. Especially diamonds in vivid colors.
@No No okay we get it. You'd rather pay top dollar for a diamond that a slave had to dig out of a mine for free!
Raul Medina i dont think you understand: a lab grown diamond is every bit a “diamond” as one that came from the ground. If a lab grown diamond were to “break”, an earth one would too. There is literally no difference between the two, with the exception of where they were made.
Yes, if you want to buy something that is going to worth nothing when you sell it again. Natural diamonds are investiment, lab-grown are scam.
jc neto natural diamonds are worth essentially nothing when you try to sell them anyway, usually less than 20% of its purchased value. If you buy a natural diamond for $20,000, you would probably get $4,000 for it when you try to sell it again. Meanwhile you can get the same diamond lab grown for ~$7,500, so your savings still far outweigh the loss if we assume a lab grown resale value of $0 (unrealistic).
Raul Medina where the fuck did you get that idea 🤣 the composition a lab diamond is the same as a mined diamond, they’re literally the same thing, lab diamonds ARE DIAMONDS 🤦🏻♂️
I love how the tester talks!!!!! Calm voice* diamond....
You are amazing and your videos are absolutely fascinating! Can’t wait for more! 😍
Easy moral to the story: If someone is losing money on their store and tells you not to buy something that saves you money, you should definitely buy the thing that saves you money. Lab grown diamonds are the EXACT same thing as natural. Except: guaranteed no one died in a mine or was a slave to get you your diamond. Since no one else will say it...
I just purchased a lab grown pink 1.5 CT diamond ring for £65. I'm very happy with it, and I think it's absolutely gorgeous. Will definitely be buying more.
Diamonds are pure coal atoms interconnected in a crystal pattern. To be exact: Diamond's cubic structure is in the Fd3m space group, which follows the face-centered cubic Bravais lattice.
This can be done with any pure coal under high pressure and temperature. So a lab grown diamond is 100% equal to a “natural” diamond. Problem is that diamond companies try to say that this is not the same as they will lose a lot of money. But this is FUD.
Absolutely nailed it! It's been pretty amusing to see the big diamond companies attacking lab-grown diamonds. I wonder why? hahahaha.
@@moderngoldsmith ofcourse they limit the supply to make it seems rare for a hundred years.. especially the vintage company that still running these days
Thanks this is so informative!
@@moderngoldsmith Lab grown diamonds cause HELLA pollution tho, not that natural diamonds are great for the earth but if you're going to compare then talk about all sides of the coin
Ive had my new lab grown 3 stone ring for 4 months and i still get distracted by the sparkle! They are stunning! Highly recommend. And it cost WAAAYYY less than the natural lesser clarity ring in the same style.
Diamond doesn't sound like a real word anymore lmao
Wow I learned a new thing today! I didn't knew about the lab grown diamonds! Thanks for the knowledge ❤❤
They have lab grown sapphires, etc as well! Such a great, ethical, environmental choice.
Great video just like I have said to thousands of people lab diamonds are real diamonds. Again great video.
Hi good morning sir. Jast I ask you that is only one tester noting any ather need to test please canfram that and tell me that price
Thank you for this video. If you could say there are disadvantages to lab grown compared to "natural," what would they be? Uncertainty of value over time?
DTOWN King LJ 6 I would say that would probably be the biggest. As more lab grown diamonds are manufactured there is a chance the prices will drop. That being said, the idea that natural diamonds hold their value is also untrue and an illusion sold to us by the diamond industry.
This is awesome and really has open my eyes/options on lab diamonds 💎💙
3:13 - I thought you were going to say blood, sweat, tears, lack of child labor laws and loss of life
lmaaaaaoooo ima need a gif of that 2:50-2:54 ‘diamond, diamond, diamond, diamond’ 🤣🤣🤣
You really have educated me on this topic. Lol I wasn't sold until the moment you started listing the ethics one could abide by, by choosing lab grown diamonds over diamonds grown in Earth. I personally love the sentiment of it being grown in Earth naturally. But I'm sold on lab grown diamonds because of the ethics. Thanks man :)
Lab grown diamonds aren't environmentally friendly either. This video doesn't mention how much energy it takes to make them and how much pollution those labs produce. I'm not saying one is better but to make a decision you have to weigh all of the pros and all of the cons.
These advantages (plus a much lower price tag and more color reflection) are why we chose a moissanite ring!
I like the fact that lab grown are just more humane, often look more dazzling than a natural stone, and you get way more stone for the price. Makes for a happy future wife. She definitely wasn't expecting the one I gave her, she was stunned and loves it.
I would be really interested on a video of your back wall, looks dope 🔥
What people dont realize is that natural diamonds lose a TON of value compared to what you pay for them. That 3 karat engagement ring you paid $7500 for will get you $2k if youre lucky.
Tell me where you can get a 3 karat for $7,500??? Lol.... Im looking at a 1.5 and its 19k.
@@vizi0123 you can find them on James allen for around 10k at eye clean quality
@@1636Westmin2 for 3carat?? I gotta see this rating. I buying a lab grown 2.21 carat and that alone is 7k
It really depends on the other 3 characteristics as well. On withclarity.com, a site which is really transparent about all aspects of each diamond, you can find 2.2 carat lab diamonds from 2.6k to 10.8k. All depends on cut, clarity, and color. If you learn how best to balance these attributes, you can probably get a bigger diamond for the same price with no visible occlusions or noticeable color.
U got it backwards you moron. Natural stones hold their value. Lab stones will be a quarter of their value within the next 5 years. If you’re worried about losing money go natural.
I was looking to buy lab grown diamonds recently and the seller told me there is a difference between cvd and some other type. Basically saying that one would test real and the other wouldn’t. Do you know anything about this?
One positive note about lab grown diamond is that the price is base on the work it takes to create your own diamond as compared to natural diamond which are wildly abundance but artificially suppressed to create scarcity.
I never know there are diamonds done in a lap, this is so cool. I am not a big diamond fan because I like colorfull stones more but this is so cool are there other stones too to grow? like saphire or emeralds?
Great vid man, I didn’t even know lad grown diamonds were a thing. How the resell on them? Where can you get them?
I'm a supplier if you want to know more you can email me
So I’m a huge fan of the lab grown diamond, I work at Jared’s and they’re pretty awesome and very popular. The resale value is low though, they are definitely for the couple that cares more about the sentiment than the long term value of the stone.
I prefer Mossionite to diamonds,because I will not patronize the Diamond Cartel ! I have both.My best genuine diamond was purchased for 124 dollars in a ring from a pawn shop .My jeweler was so impressed with the quality of it,she set it for me in my own ring!
I was looking at moissanites but now I’m gonna do some research about lab grown diamonds, nice!
He works with both stones! He made me a Moissanite ring and I love it! Whichever stone you choose, they each have positive qualities and you can't go wrong!
I have a 2.3 carat moissanite and 5 years later I’m very much in love with it still. ♥️
@@bethiebooya awesome! Thank you so much for letting me know ☺️
@@rachaelesque3 that is so nice! I’m so sentimentally attached to the idea of diamonds and can only hope to reduce that so that I can totally consider and appreciate other options lol! I bet your ring looks gorgeous! 😀
@@EstherOlabisi I completely understand! I’m sure you won’t go wrong with whatever you choose! 🥰
The value of something is the worth *we* place on it. Beautiful lab grown diamond!
I’ve totally changed my mind in diamonds. I would have no problem with a cz or messonite now. 👍🏻🥰
Sure u would lol. The first one ur friends who gives u a funny face will knock that moralistic stance right out of u
Is it that tester work with Emarled testing?
Came from Ariana Grande video, stayed for the personality 😎
(BTW I'm LOVING your relaxing voice-over videos, especially after a stressful work day... please make more!)
This was awesome man! Thank you!
Great video ! Thank you for sharing. I have a question, I read this- There are 2 kinds of LAB GROWN DIAMONDS. CVD Lab grown diamonds and HPHT Lab grown diamonds. The difference between the CVD and HPHT Lab Grown Diamond is the CVD Lab grown diamond will react to a diamond detector pen and the HPHT Lab Grown Diamond will not, making the HPHT Lab Diamond cheaper than the CVD Lab Grown Diamond....
Is this accurate? And why? Both processes create real genuine diamonds 🤔
That's a very brilliant question, Amanda! This is completely normal and nothing to worry about. The tester tests a diamond by its heat conductivity. As you rightly pointed out, There are two methods to grow a lab diamond one is HPHT and the other is CVD. The diamond grown by the CVD method is a type 2a diamond which tests as diamonds in the pen tester but the one grown by HPHT is a type 2 in which the arrangement of impurity in the material makes it semi-conductive at times. And this also happens in the natural diamond of type 2 but since they are very rare in natural the pen tester was a safe device to use. But for lab-grown, the pen tester is not an ideal device to test it as diamond. However, the latest technology pen-tester detects an HPHT stone as a diamond. For assurance, you can send it to the lab which has more sophisticated equipment to test, and also there is a lab report for the bigger stone out of there that says it's a lab-grown diamond.
Yayyyy, was just deciding on a diamond vs lab diamond for anniversary, thanks!
sooo....where exactly can I buy one of these diamond growing machines? I am asking for a friend
which one you want?
From what I nderstand it’s HOW they’re created will determine a pass on the tester. HPHT vs. CVD. I believe CVD will pass but the HPHT will not. Please correct me if I’m wrong.
I had this conversation with a jeweller the other day, so frustrating when people swallow all of the propaganda thrown at them by De Beers...nice to see someone in the industry talking about it openly.
I'm totally not into jewelry so please forgive my ignorance but in which ways is a zirconia worse than a diamond? Obviously the diamond is physically tougher than just about anything else, but apart from that? In the video the zirconia looks pretty much the same. Does it degrade quickly? Or is it not as pretty when viewed in person?
The Three Greatest Lab grown diamonds:
*"DYLAN, DYLAN, DYLAN"*
*DYMON DYMON DYMON*
....Because he spits hot fire lol
Thanks for this I’ve been looking for an engagement ring for my girl and I was looking into lab grown, keep up the great content
I love my 3carats 🍐 shape lab diamond ring, I am so happy 💝
This was more interesting than I thought. I enjoyed this video.
That is really neat!
that lab grown diamond setting is so beautiful
Diamond! Diamond! heh, because it IS a real diamond and extremely common. The only difference is the diamond cartel aren't limiting them in the marketplace nor sitting on tons of them in vaults.
Unless they buy the labs and own patents
Where can you get lab grown diamonds?
Moderngoldsmith.com
Thank you for this video! I told my fiance I wanted a lab grown diamond and it is the most beautiful ring - and conflict free!!!
If you’re broke just say that
I agree. I said the same thing to my significant other when I found out about how natural diamonds affect the environment.
@@danielmolina4216 Lol not always true. My bf has the means but I specifically said not to buy the natural diamond because it's not conflict-free. But I'd say that to a moissanite lol Yeah, there's nothing wrong with that but it's just a wannabe diamond in my opinion lol
@@xxsam0917xx moissanite is from a star. It was so tiny that they couldn't even make a pair of earrings with it. It's definitely not a diamond wannabe. It's a beauty beyond our reach. It's a gift from above I would say. Just my 2 cents.
@@bellayang6993 I mean it has its own beauty and an alternative to a diamond. "Moissanite is engineered to give the illusion of similarity to diamonds." A wannabe diamond is a lack of a better word.
type IIab
What about testing Ruby's, emeralds, topaz and other stones how will the tester react?
This is exactly the kind of video I'm looking for because I just purchased a ruby
Rubies will most likely test as a sapphire as long as color doesn't factor into the tester's reading. Rubies and sapphires are both made of corundum, the color is really the only difference.
@@GenuineGooseLord Indeed it is chromium content in the corundum that makes rubies red, anything not red, are classified as sapphire.
Very informative, thank you for this video.
This was an awesome and timely video! (I’m shopping for an engagement ring)
Thank You, Great Informative Video!
A lab grown diamond under a “loupe” will have clear streaks running throughout, a natural diamond will have black “specs” that are pieces of charcoal found throughout. If both are looked at under a loop the natural diamond and lab grown diamond can 100% easily be differentiated. Not trying to dismiss this video, but the actual facts should be put out for consumers to know.
Is there any way to differentiate lab grown versus earth formed? Just for the sake of curiosity
wow did not know this was possible!
What carat is the lab grown one in the video?
So far as I understand there is no reliable method for detecting if a diamond is mined or lab grown.
Yossi Lipton that was true at one point in time, however there are now diamond scanners (running thousands of dollars) that can determine how the diamond was formed, thus you can differentiate. Unless you have one of these scanners, no traditional method will work (even for trained gemologists!) One thing however is Lab-grown diamonds are mostly laser inscribed on the girdle with a serial number which can be traced to the grading report, identifying it as a lab grown stone!
@@moderngoldsmith why they have to put a serial numbers in a lab grown diamond??? Its pretty good to make diamond market crashed lol