When lab grown were coming out, so many diamond sellers were saying they weren't real and that they'd refuse to sell them..they were terrified. Now they're all selling them.
Yep, now more people can afford them and the lab gems have thw same or better margins. A good saleperson can double the profit on a lab. Put the two rings next to each other one 15k the other 3k, wait a min let me check the price on that. 15k vs 3650.
Agreed. The fact that there is barely any secondary market for diamonds should be proof for anyone that diamonds (natural or lab) are worthless at resale.
Natural diamond can be sold back to the dealer for a fair price if you purchased it right in the first place. Anything else you buy retail you can send to the junk yard because you get nothing.
Buy a lab diamond, honestly. The whole “it doesn’t hold its value” argument is so played out because most diamonds do not hold even 25% of its value unless it’s a brand name, near or absolutely flawless or rare. You can gift a loved one a bigger, higher quality diamond if you go lab, plus it’s more environmentally friendly and humanly sourced.
@@Mike.The.Jeweler exactly lol people just don’t want to admit that they like the social admiration that comes with own naturally mined diamonds, which is cool, but using incorrect information to support that feeling isn’t.
Most people buy diamonds that is already put in jewelery and usually ppl who can afford diamonds wether that be natural or Lab will not have to resell their jewelry,1200 usd for a stone that sparkles is still insane for regular folk
Exactly on point. Makes total sense to go Lab grown specially for young people or those with less resources. Nobody cares if it's from Deboers, Tiffany these days. It's not like people are going to carry a diamond tester or loup to inspect your diamond. More $$ in your pocket.
@@Lionheart732 You can't tell if it's a lab with a diamond tester or loupe. It looks and tests the exact same as a natrual mined stone. Only way to tell is a super expensive spectrometer that looks for nitrogen, since most natrual stones have nitrogen, where as most labs don't.
I always like how Micheal mentions people with lower budgets and suggests how they could afford something nice, on a budget. It shows he's been there in the past. 😊 And his feet are still on the ground.
There are more poor people than rich people, so making content with poor people in mind means more clicks and more money for him, that's all social media is, nothing is actually from the content creators feelings or beliefs
He's not doing it because he sympathises with you it's because it appeals to his viewers, marketing and actually caring about the lives of those you market to are two different things.
Not sure how true that is. Most people watch TH-cam / TV as an escape from reality. They don't want to see what they can afford unless they are specifically looking for it.@@bdegrds
This is a fantastic review and video. Honestly, one of the best by far to explain and explore so much to help people make an informed decision. Thank you for taking the time to put this video together.
I bought my wife a natural diamond engagement ring… told her about the lab grown so she did some research. After learning she could get a slightly bigger, better diamond for a quarter of the cost she wanted me to return the natural diamond and get the lab grown in its place. She is very very happy with it and that’s all that matters to me. I too prefer the natural because it’s just that.. but she’s happier with the lab so it’s good 👍🏻.
Fascinating video, I purchased my wife some lab grown diamonds when they first came out not because they were cheaper but because I was so excited by this brand new technology. They are earrings and just look like exceptionally good diamonds which they in reality are!
This is a common myth. Firstly Diamonds are not scarce you are right, but the majority of diamands in the earth, are dirty have occuslusions, and are not fit for retail. Very very few have clarity and colour. Those are the ones that are expensive. Those diamonds are rare. So diamands are plentiful, those fit for sale are very rare when you consider the abundance of unfit diamonds.
Did you also realize De Beers has enough natural diamonds in safes to last the world another 50 plus years. They hold them to jack up prices and control the market
My jeweler: "A child is no less a child if they were fertilized in a beaker/lab via IVF. There's no reason to look at a lab grown stone any differently. The end result is still just as precious". Sold.
Im sure if you wanted your wife to have natural birth vs lab created child you would choose natural, things made in nature will allways have more value in our hearts, because we are created by nature, mother earth, so don’t fall for the adds, money is just paper, if you have it just buy the natural earth diamond so your wife wont have to lie to her friends or me tion the word synthetic to her friends.don’t downgrade yourself
These comments don’t reflect the narrative of how poor Africans are lowered to ungodly claustrophobic depths to retrieve natural diamonds … if true… any stone is better…
Love the video as usual. I asked my wife what she would prefer after describing prices for a 2 carat. She said she would prefer natural. I would always disclose nature or man made to my wife. Honesty is always the best policy
So spend double/triple the price just bc the wife says “natural”…… as if she or any jeweler she would take it to would be able to tell if it was natural or lab grown. She sounds like a red flag…. She wants natural tell her you want a natural….see how that goes hahaha
@@survivalSC are you suggesting they are somehow labeled inside the diamond? Kid WTF are you talking about 😂. They are “labeled” on the certificate. A lab grown diamond through a loop or microscope looks exactly the same as a regular diamond….. and “lab grown diamonds” are exactly the same as other diamonds, same exact makeup etc. it’s impossible to tell the difference without the cert. but if you want to spend triple the price, have at it. At the end of the day it’s a rock….from earth….. only made famous really in the 60s through marketing…..
In Western Australia where I live, we have a diamond mine that produces the worlds best pink diamonds. They have made the commercial decision to close the mine. They have stocks that are probably not selling due to the cost vs lab grown. Diamonds are bad investments these days. Stick with gold.
Yeah but if you have the budget to be buying argyle diamonds, you might as well buy to hold and park your money. Its guaranteed to retain and go up in value.
2 or 3 months salary was started when that salary equated to a $800 to $1200 ring on the high end. Costs of living was different then when you could buy a home for $27,000 and a new Corvette for $4500
@@neilwattoodude , for 10k you can get up to 10 carat diamond with perfect cut , f colour , and vs1 or vvs2 clarity 😂 . It is sad how this sellers are basically ripping off the skin out of your wallet and how they are tricking you to believe that you just saved up some money with their "steal deal" 😅😅
@@neilwattooyes , I just checked , and I found shit ton of 10 carat f colour vs1 stones for less than 9k , and these stones are really good , like cut is nearly perfect because you can see hearts easily on the back of it , and this two kind of squares in centre from front view . Diamond market is overpriced af..
At 13:00 min, he mentioned about a brown blue tint to diamonds having a lower value even if the color, cut & clarity is top quality. What is the definition of that brown blue tint called? Is there a word for it? That seems quite important and wasnt explained in detail in the video
Very informative vid, I really did not know lab diamonds had come down in price as much as they have. Interesting to note there was a day when the finest natural pearls were more expensive than diamonds. That all changed when cultured pearls were developed. It will be interesting to see how the future unfolds for diamonds.
I have read lab grown diamonds loose their luster radiance over time. The price is so affordable it could easily be replaced when the time comes. I think both are lovely it is really up to the individual to decide which one works for them. This video is wonderful! Thank you!
WOW! Great exploration and a reality check as was the first lab grown diamond video with Mr Patrick Fay at Big Diamonds USA. Awaiting the Peter Marco Clunkers to emerge on the scene.
I would be very happy recieving a lab-grown diamond and I would also be very happy with a smaller, higher quality natural diamond. That was a fun video. Thank you Michael, Adam and Happy Jewelers 😃
Wife and I talked about upgrading our rings after our 20th year anniversary. After looking at both lab grown and mined, we went with the lab grown. If it's molecularly the same, and visually identical, there really isn't much of a reason NOT to go with the lab grown. AND it was much cheaper. At the end of the day folks can make their own choice, but now you have an option that won't hurt your wallet and is identical to the other.
A number of years ago a guy stole $20 million from a bank, he then spent the cash on a cash of diamonds. When he was caught the diamond sellers refused to return the cash to the bank, and no-one was willing to buy the diamonds for that value. In the end the bank was stuck with the diamonds which they had to sell of piecemeal. Diamonds or worth less than a car, A car dealer will usually buy your car back if returned within a week, diamond dealers will pay you 30-50% less than what you paid for your diamond.
5:26 $10k buy, sell it back for $7k lose $3000, 5:39 buy it for $1200, sell it back for $500 lose $700 $2300 difference still good to have a lab dimond!
My hubby purchased a 3 ct marquise cut lab-grown, set in a 14K yellow gold band with platinum prongs as my engagement ring. That thing was too huge for me! I was uncomfortable. We exchanged it for a 1 ct size marquise and it's perfect! I don't care that it's not natural. We don't like the stigma of "blood diamonds" so we chose lab, and we're not made of money, either. We got a really beautiful ring and didn't have to break the bank.
I got some lab grown 2.30 ct princess cut diamond studs for 1000$ i like then better than my natural princess cut studs 1.40 ct I paid 1800$ I'll never buy natural diamonds again
I’m in a process of creating/purchasing a 4.03ct lab-grown emerald cut diamond, VVS2, Color D set on a 4mm 18K ring for less than $2500. Just Makes Sense!
Upgraded my wife's engagement ring for our 10th anniversary. We went with lab, really a no-brainer. Exactly the same, chemically, structurally, visually and practically, for way less money. She loves it!
Lab buyers, pleeaaassee stop saying they are exactly the same and visually the same when that is the farthest from the truth. Labs are real diamonds yes, but not the same as natural diamonds, if they were there would be NO way of telling them apart, no way at all. The reason they can be told apart is because they are not the same. Blue hues, brownish pink and grey hues and metalic inclusions which natural diamonds do not have. I'm happy your wife loves her ring and I'm sure it's pretty, I'm just tired of hearing people say they are exactly the same when it's not true. Even the GIA at a seminar gently slapped the wrist of jewelers for not educating themselves about lab diamonds and not being honest with their customers. It's on youtube you should look it up it's very interesting.
They are literally the same to the naked eye and through a loop. The ONLY way to tell the difference is with a high-powered microscope and reading the serial number where it says "lab-grown." So unless your friends carry around a high-powered microscope and look at your ring with that, no one can or will be able to tell the difference. If you have friends like that then you have bigger problems!!!! Save yourself some money and get a lab-grown.@@usfanlovesminho5085
@@usfanlovesminho5085nope. They are the same. Unless you have the equipment to distinguish trace chemistry or test for phosphorescence… they are both diamond, same properties.
I'l buy both! Natural has more meaning and investment potential particularly natural color diamonds while lab created diamonds are just bought as accesories.
Natural is a depreciating asset. With lab growth, natural values will fall, due to lower demand. And with the inflating supply each year, there's not enough demand to eat up the supply
@@neilwattoo do not be an ignoramus! Pink diamonds for example have risen in value HIGHer than real estates and putting your money in the bank! Red diamond used to costs less than $1 million dollars per carat and today they are at least $7 million dollars per carat! The Archduke Joseph Diamond was sold in 1993 for $6 million dollars but in 2012 it was auctioned for nearly $23 million dollars! What have you learned today!?
My first Bridal set is 1.5ct natural diamond. My 10yr is here, and I got a bigger lab grown ring to go with my natural 2 wedding bands. Essentially, I just wanted a bigger engagement ring, to swap out my original. I kept my original 1.5ct natural ring and I'll admit, I am still hesitant about my 3ct lab grown engagement ring. When paired in between my natural diamond bands, you cannot tell the difference between lab grown ring and the natural bands.
I must admit I enjoy a natural diamond more than lab grown. However i do have some diamonique pieces that give me a good sparkle. Just buy what looks/feels right and hits your pocket in the right way.
I went natural for my 1st engagement- and will do lab for our 10yr anniversary- upgrade to a 5carat lab emerald cut with the savings we are taking a trip to Egypt to see the pyramids
There's no "natural feel" difference between lab grown and natural, they look and feel exactly the same. You won't be able to tell the difference unless you carry around a specialized device 🙂
WoW ! Thank you All for that video. I'd never have guess 'lab grown' were so close that now it's impossible to tell with the eyes.I've been too broke and Never 'flashy' even when dressed for 'full dress' parties and I do simple polished silver chains that are braided and reflected along with 1/8th carrot stud earrings.I lost 1 and it's quite hurtful.To know I can get a copy does help allot.TY.
One carat lab grown cost 25$ to produce that s why jewelers love to sell them ( huge profit) , they also need a small natural diamond to grow on it and need lots of electricity for the pressure and temperature needed to make them . Synthetic emeralds , rubies and sapphires were used by big brands, like cartier , van cleefs etc in the 1920´s , today every one wants natural stones … let see what will happen
the jeweller doesn't pay the price at production, they get cut (labour costs) then pass through multiple hands that all want their own margin so by the end when it gets to the jeweller to be set the margins aren't significantly higher, based on what they're saying in the video if you watched it at all and the market trends people don't want mined nowadays like they used to so no idea where you got that from.
Gem quality rubies, emeralds and sapphires are significantly rarer than diamonds for the most part. The diamond scarcity that makes it pricey is artificial. Lab grown should reduce that artificial price increase.
My engagement ring is a lab grown 2 carat. It’s beautiful and a size that is completely believable. We’re middle class, have a nice home in a nice HOA community and drive newer Nissans. In my opinion, anything larger than a 2 carat and you should be getting out of a Mercedes when you pull up to your million dollar home or it will be assumed you’re wearing a CZ or a moissanite. My lab grown was within our “pay cash” budget at $2,500 and a real diamond. Enough said.
they say that a lab diamond will pass the diamond tester but there is a special machine that can tell the difference. So what characteristic does the special machine measure/detect in a lab vs natural?
Just buy lab grown. Literally no difference and much cheaper. The only reason someone should buy real is if money is never an issue. The whole “my wife wants a natural”….as if that b*** can actually tell…. Stay away from the gold diggers my friends! 😂
@@fannywayne1920wild guy I’d never buy mossiante shit looks terrible if you can’t get the real the lab diamond is the second best and they’ve pretty much explained that it’s passing most test
I just upgraded to 5 carat radiant lab in platinum with natural diamonds on each side. Couldn’t be happier. I love both and honestly most people cannot afford large carat weight in a natural choice. I have nothing negative to say about lab especially if you do not plan to go bigger or sell it. They are every bit as real and beautiful.
There is something special and alluring about wearing a singular diamond. A naturally mined diamond has a rarity factor that makes it more appealing than a mass-produced imitation. Knowing that the earth produced a diamond over millions of years makes a real gemstone feel more sentimental and valuable than one whipped up in a sterile laboratory
companies like debeers have been holding back supply for many many years to artificially inflate prices. not to mention child labour and exploitation of a countries resources. lab grown are the best thing to happen to the diamond industry in my opinion.
They consolidated and signed a gentleman agreement. Also you have to build the lab, pay people and the retail need to make money too. There will be a silver lining to the price
nothing, the resale value is already a fraction of the retail price. the truth is with lab a lot of the price comes from the cutting and labour that goes into the stone so they'll always have at least the base line price from the labour that goes into it and the cost of the CVD machines or the cubic presses that are used to manufacture them. as time goes on and the methods get more efficient and further perfected they'll get even cheaper and you'll get large high clarity stones for even less. mined diamond will suffer too as the only difference between lab and mined is phosphorescence. at the end of the day the value is purely marketing as diamonds are not rare at all, sapphire, emerald and ruby are all rarer. the only rare diamonds are naturally coloured ones. natural and millions of years old means nothing at all, the iron used to make the cutlery in my kitchen draw is also natural, millions of years old and mined, same with anything that comes from the earth its all fluff and marketing.
Since it takes about 6 weeks to grow a 1 carat diamond there is a limit to how cheap it can be when you consider the equipment costs, and having to wait 6 weeks before you can make a sale. Which is probably the current prices. Now if they find a way to grow them in a week or a day, than you'll probably be able to buy them at Dollar General.
@@Alex-go3jn Well that's pretty good then. If you really want a pretty shiny stone to wear, buy something used that is chemically identical to something that's 100x more expensive. Sounds like a cracking good deal to me.
Really it is a matter of preference and budget. Although I personally prefer natural diamonds, I would consider lab for a large tennis necklace. I find it hard to compare a rare natural diamond on auction at Sotheby's with a manmade lab diamond of the same size for example. For some people, it is also about the find and discovery of a natural diamond. You do not have that in a lab diamond because it is manmade and grown in a lab. Also, if someone is concerned about the environment, wouldn't it be better to buy a vintage diamond?
I am sorry, but I still love my natural diamond, which is high grade in colour and clarity. It wouldn't feel the same if it was made in a laboratory. You can get emerald made in a lab, but I'd only want an emerald coming from the ground
It would be intersting to see you do a video comparing moissanite to lab grown diamonds. Also, would love a video investigating whats happening with these Frankenstein watches that are more and more frequently appearing in the marketplace.
As a jeweler myself who has to polish the film of Moissanites. They are not a diamond! After a year or two they get a oxidization layer on them that cannot be cleaned. They don't even come close to a lab or natural diamond in light performance, durability or wearability. ...And if you are a real jeweler you can tell without any magnification.
I love that it's called the Sherlock Holmes Machine. That's definitely what we need to tell the difference here, I couldn't tell them apart at all. Very educational video, thank you.
It detects type IaA lattice impurity arrays which is signature of natural diamond, lab grown diamond is type IIa lattice (100% chemically pure diamond).
At the beginning of the video, I thought it was another video about lab-grown diamonds. Meanwhile, I'm already an expert in it. But because the videos on this channel are always interesting, I watched it anyway, and it turns out I knew almost nothing about lab-grown diamonds. Thanks for the advice and another fun/interesting video, Michael, Adam, Gabe, and Danny from Happy Jewelers.
Wow Michael 👍 good education for many people out there today.. thank you for sharing your information with the rest of the humble world out here 10-10-10
I would buy lab grown. If my wife asked how much they were, I would happily tell her, and then she would want more because they are so cheap. Diamond is her birth stone anyway so she has tons of them.
1969my husband brought me an engagement diamond ring.That time we were young and have not much knowledge about diamond.my ring got a dark spot in the middle.l treasure it and know this is a special piece and no other ring can compare.He is in haven now but whenever l look at the ring everyday ,he is actually living there.l love that special dark spot.
Bought my wife a natural diamond for $10k when we got married, we traded it back in now for our 10th anniversary and with that money bought her a new ring that was triple the size and had money left over for her to get necklace and earrings. Lab grown diamonds are a no brainer, the vast majority of people will never buy natural again as it makes absolutely no sense.
Once you buy a lab grown CVD diamond to sell it back dealers will offer you almost nothing for CVD (lab grown). They will buy them when they need them ( a customer asks for one) and pay 85% to 90% off the the price of a comparable natural diamond.
You asked for a comparison between natural and lab grown diamonds? Here it is: Refractive index, Dispersion Nat: 2.44, 0.044 Lab: 2.44, 0.044 Formula, Hardness Nat: C, 10 Lab: C, 10 Density, conductivity Nat: 3.53 g/ml, 2.2 kW/mK* Lab: 3.53 g/ml, 2.2 kW/mK* *If metal inclusions are present: 2.10-2.30 kW/mK
I am intrested in purchasing a ring but always wanted to know this information I appreciate the knowledge in which you and the guys at happy jewelers shared
sorry its not happening .. CZ been around for years prettier and much cheaper people still aim for natural .. Lab diamonds will go down the same road .. way over priced a moissanite is wayyy better buy
Never thought I could be bothered listening to a video about Lab grown Diamonds but, you made it fun to watch ! Of course, when you see just one Diamond, Real or Labgrown, you woulden't see the difference but, one next to the other..., I observed a difference in light. The Labgrown seemed somehow like 'to perfect', a bit more bluish. I guess I could chose a slightly more yellow tint in a Labgrown one. ; )) This was a fun Video !
I think there's something special about buying something that took millions of years to be naturally made with heat and pressure. An object that is OLDER that dinosaurs. Its pretty cool if you think of it. BUT if i got married, an engagement ring at $2k is a great idea.
@@Alex-go3jn The only process metal ever underwent was in the death of a star. It takes tons of ore to get even 1/2 carat of diamond. And chances are that 1/2 carat is not worthy to put into jewellery. Natural jewellery quality diamonds are relatively rare and finding larger of those gets exponentially rarer. Diamonds come from 10s of millions of years of formation and had to really beat the odds to not reach the surface as scrap. So no, not at all comparable to metal or 'fossil juice' as quality diamonds are actually special after all. Please learn about things before spouting nonsense about them.
@@Alex-go3jn Everything is stardust including metals and the carbon that is formed into diamond over many millions of years. And what good are diamonds in the cosmos? Do you even know how supply and demand work. No, it is you who has a lot to learn.
I have always LOVED my diamonds. I used to have a pair of real diamond earrings that were a reasonable size….devastatingly I lost one, but sadly they weren’t insured ,😢😢😢 My hubby purchased some CZ earrings to replace them years ago ( couldn’t tell the difference back then) as I didn’t trust myself not to loose them, I had also in the past lost a bracelet that was specifically made, gold horse shoes with rubies at each end…it was stunning and I lost it on our honeymoon moon. I now have ALL my diamonds and gold insured, lol, I also lost a yellow and rose gold bracelet, luckily it was insured and was able to get a replacement. So because of all my mishaps with jewellery….seems to be the bane of my life, I would DEFINITELY LOVE one of those huge lab grown diamond rings. I love the bling ! Even if I had millions I would still buy lab grown, you seriously can’t tell the difference and they are still “diamonds” just sped up grown diamonds. 💎💎💎 Thanks for the video Michael and Adam, interesting as always. ! Love from Australia ❤❤❤
I'd never want to sell you insurance on jewelry but was a smart move to get your jewelry insured since you just leave it laying around no matter where your at.
Smaller, natural because it's intended to mean/signify something special/lasting just as Clogau (Welsh) Gold is beautiful and rare with a colour like no other Gold of any carat.
I believe as time goes on the lab diamonds so mass produced they'll keep dropping to the point they become hard to sell causing it to drop in price drastically which is a good thing in my opinion makes it easier to obtain for your average joe worker.
Agreed and as you can see they hate LGD even more. Trying to sell the same natural stuff for 10x price searching for excuses like no resale value etc. Pure desperation, gold rush is over
As a Gemologist, I predicted this decades ago when only smaller synthetic diamonds were made in a lab. Now larger, difficult to identify from natural diamonds are proliferating. Instruments to seperate the two can cost thousands. Therefore, IMO, as synthetic diamonds continue to saturate the market, diamond prices--accross the board--natural or not, are going to continue to gradually decline. Then, when the masses realize what's up, prices will crater all at once. Not so with finer, high-quality Colored Stones, which IMHO, are more immune to the synthetic issue (easier to identify from natural) and will continue to be stable in value and, IMHO, are way, way more pleasing to look at and own.
I can't understand why someone would deliberately want to pay more for exactly the same only to be sure that the process that lead to them holding the diamond certainly was more wasteful, probably child labor involved, if not at least people are being exploited on the way. Why would someone chose this over a clean lab grown diamond (imagine, maybe created with renewable energy)
How is it crap when it has the same exact molecular structure as a diamond? GIA certifies them, would they certify something that is junk.... no, no they wouldnt. @@robertlulek1634
@@robertlulek1634 So you already seem tot have asked a true geologist. What was the reason? Why is a lab grown diamond "crap"? It's literally the same thing.
@@robertlulek1634 This is a popular misconception since understanding that synthetics are real requires a certain level of basic chemistry understanding as well as objectivity/common sense… not everyone has those. Also yes this is a rather condescending statement but reality hurts sometimes
My fiancé and I talked about lab vs natural diamonds when discussing engagement rings. She is big on ethically sourced everything, so we went with lab. We both realize as the tech scales and becomes more readily available, lab will depreciate harder and will eventually become much cheaper to produce overall, but that really didn't matter to either of us.
Labs already are much cheaper to produce than naturals. The profit percentage on labs is much higher than in diamonds. Labs are making the fat cats even richer.
You could have bought a diamond from Canada and many other places with ethically sourced mines. Also labs are worthless once you buy it so depreciating is not something you need to worry about since it has no resale value right out of the gate. But I'm happy you like the diamond you ended up choosing.
But why does it matter if it's a diamond anyways you see someone on the street with a diamond you wouldn't be able to tell if it's a lab or natural without the cert in his back pocket, has no resale value but the loss from buying a natural diamond at the same cut and carat and selling it is more than the price of the lab diamond all together.
@@TristanOvery That's always been the way. Most people can't tell what you've got by just looking at it. But that's irrelevant because people still want the exclusivity from buying an original piece of art or designer suit/purse or natural stone. People thought lab emeralds would destroy the natural market too -nope!
Hello producer Michael! I love your videos on lab grown diamonds! On your next lab grown diamonds video. (If you choose to make another one) you should visit a laboratory where they’re actually growing them.
Love the video, very informative. I have all natural diamonds, just got an upgrade at 25 years to a 3.5 carat natural radiant cut and I honestly do love the fact that it’s natural but we had the budget for it. I now have children that are buying engagement rings and I 100% support the lab grown choice for both my sons and their budget and my daughter and her desire for a large stone! Also, one thing that wasn’t mentioned, it seems that the new generation feel that the lab grown is more environmentally friendly as well as more ethical??
In my opinion, diamonds have always been overpriced because it is a "must have" for engagement... There is literally no reason to choose a natural diamond over a lab grown, other than spending more money. Also, I don't think you really need a ring to get married, might as well enjoy a good vacation together instead 🤷
It takes 2-3 billion years for an earth mined diamond to form, not 10 thousand years. In general, a lab diamond will be between 60-70% less than earth mined. The only way to tell the difference between these diamonds is the crystal growth pattern within the diamond with specialized equipment. Both are beautiful!! I’ve been following the development of lab grown since 2006. Watch out for a slight brown tint to lab grown. I love the GIA certification. My lab-grown anniversary band is certified too. Whether earth mined or lab grown, enjoy your beautiful diamonds.
Side question if anyone out there knows. Can you digitally scan a diamond to map the occlusions for security purposes? If you could, then anyone could register their diamond in the database for security right. Wouldn't end theft but would be one more step to help.
In essence: on a lab grown your spending basically for having it made but it’s a worthless stone. It’s like buying glass. A natural diamond is not an investment but it’s real and you can get some money back. I’d rather get a very high quality half carat real natural diamond for her for an every day use where it won’t get in the way. Not to big not to small, won’t get stuck on anything and if she accidentally loses it down the sink I’m only out maybe $2700 (diamond only) with setting maybe 3400-4000. I’ll do a half carat natural very high quality. Thank you for this video it helped me a lot
THERE IS NO DIFFERENCE except the price (Both are made from carbon). Like, there is no difference between Ice naturally made at the North Pole and Ice made in your home freezer. Both are made from water H20.
I haven't purchased any lab grown yet but I wouldn't hesitate to do so. I've been married to my wife for 20 years so I am not concerned with resale and she wouldn't care either way. value is king
When lab grown were coming out, so many diamond sellers were saying they weren't real and that they'd refuse to sell them..they were terrified. Now they're all selling them.
Well if they didn't they would probably go out of business lol
They were scared because hit men sent from DeBeers to wax them were lurking in the back office.
Yep, now more people can afford them and the lab gems have thw same or better margins. A good saleperson can double the profit on a lab. Put the two rings next to each other one 15k the other 3k, wait a min let me check the price on that. 15k vs 3650.
@@sparksmcgee6641please 3600 something dollars vs I can get a 5-carat 121,000 ring for $55, the price has crashed.
@@snoberto do you know how they grow them and are they real
When the jeweler was talking about lab grown "having no value" he was being so careful not to say, that natural also don't, using the same arguments.
Agreed. The fact that there is barely any secondary market for diamonds should be proof for anyone that diamonds (natural or lab) are worthless at resale.
Natural diamonds do have resale. Just around %50 of it's price (which you probably spent more than (%300) over its price. )
@@malachieman1975nope, 20% is fair, all the seller will refuse when you really trying sell it back
@@mf99 wtf u talking about, tons of people buy 2nd dismonds
Natural diamond can be sold back to the dealer for a fair price if you purchased it right in the first place. Anything else you buy retail you can send to the junk yard because you get nothing.
Buy a lab diamond, honestly. The whole “it doesn’t hold its value” argument is so played out because most diamonds do not hold even 25% of its value unless it’s a brand name, near or absolutely flawless or rare. You can gift a loved one a bigger, higher quality diamond if you go lab, plus it’s more environmentally friendly and humanly sourced.
They're like cars, the really nice ones hold value, the average one you see driving around is worth 1/4th what they paid for it originally.
@@Mike.The.Jeweler exactly lol people just don’t want to admit that they like the social admiration that comes with own naturally mined diamonds, which is cool, but using incorrect information to support that feeling isn’t.
Most people buy diamonds that is already put in jewelery and usually ppl who can afford diamonds wether that be natural or Lab will not have to resell their jewelry,1200 usd for a stone that sparkles is still insane for regular folk
Exactly on point. Makes total sense to go Lab grown specially for young people or those with less resources. Nobody cares if it's from Deboers, Tiffany these days. It's not like people are going to carry a diamond tester or loup to inspect your diamond. More $$ in your pocket.
@@Lionheart732 You can't tell if it's a lab with a diamond tester or loupe. It looks and tests the exact same as a natrual mined stone. Only way to tell is a super expensive spectrometer that looks for nitrogen, since most natrual stones have nitrogen, where as most labs don't.
I always like how Micheal mentions people with lower budgets and suggests how they could afford something nice, on a budget. It shows he's been there in the past. 😊 And his feet are still on the ground.
He's usually just trying to sell you some tat.
There are more poor people than rich people, so making content with poor people in mind means more clicks and more money for him, that's all social media is, nothing is actually from the content creators feelings or beliefs
He's not doing it because he sympathises with you it's because it appeals to his viewers, marketing and actually caring about the lives of those you market to are two different things.
@@Paulstrickland01 thats correct !
Not sure how true that is. Most people watch TH-cam / TV as an escape from reality. They don't want to see what they can afford unless they are specifically looking for it.@@bdegrds
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This is a fantastic review and video. Honestly, one of the best by far to explain and explore so much to help people make an informed decision. Thank you for taking the time to put this video together.
I bought my wife a natural diamond engagement ring… told her about the lab grown so she did some research. After learning she could get a slightly bigger, better diamond for a quarter of the cost she wanted me to return the natural diamond and get the lab grown in its place. She is very very happy with it and that’s all that matters to me. I too prefer the natural because it’s just that.. but she’s happier with the lab so it’s good 👍🏻.
Cheers
Your wife is a smart woman. You got yourself a good one!
Glad your wife likes imitations
Get used to it, u can never do good.
Great nice fascinating magnificent
Fascinating video, I purchased my wife some lab grown diamonds when they first came out not because they were cheaper but because I was so excited by this brand new technology. They are earrings and just look like exceptionally good diamonds which they in reality are!
Just don’t try to re-sell them.
@@neilmartin4187 Why? They don't lose value faster than natural ones - they just have less of it...
@@MatteoFitness
Most pawn shops or jewelry stores will not loan or buy them. They have no value to them.
@@neilmartin4187Yes they do and yes they do. Why would it not have value to them? xD
@@MatteoFitness because no one wants to buy them, we jewellers can just order one it takes 1 minute to find .
Real diamonds have always been a market manipulated industry scam. Diamonds are not scarce like they want you to believe.
@@m.s.a2492gold isn’t scarce either
Yes, the whole industry is designed to screw normal people
This is a common myth. Firstly Diamonds are not scarce you are right, but the majority of diamands in the earth, are dirty have occuslusions, and are not fit for retail. Very very few have clarity and colour. Those are the ones that are expensive. Those diamonds are rare. So diamands are plentiful, those fit for sale are very rare when you consider the abundance of unfit diamonds.
Also, ethically mined with paperwork are not as common…
Thats not true anymore @@SueB_3
As always, thank you for sharing what you learned with the rest of your family, friends, and followers! We appreciate you Michael!
Great nice fascinating magnificent
This was a highly educational video! I've learned more in this 26 minute video than I ever knew about diamonds previously.
Did you also realize De Beers has enough natural diamonds in safes to last the world another 50 plus years. They hold them to jack up prices and control the market
Same here!!!!☺️
I really love diamonds and ill love to get some for my wife, she wants that for her birthday. Will she know the difference if i buy a cheaper one?
Buy the one that best fits your budget, buddy. Don't spend more than yourself. I know you love her, but be smart.
He is right, I don't think a lot of people will know the difference.
Yeah, but...ill rather buy the more expensive one I believe in go big orngo home, and I don't really have to worry about it.
Who called over confident here😂
Diamonds are quite expensive last time I checked. What makes you so sure
My jeweler: "A child is no less a child if they were fertilized in a beaker/lab via IVF. There's no reason to look at a lab grown stone any differently. The end result is still just as precious". Sold.
Hmm but ivf lab babies are still growing in a natural process
Im sure if you wanted your wife to have natural birth vs lab created child you would choose natural, things made in nature will allways have more value in our hearts, because we are created by nature, mother earth, so don’t fall for the adds, money is just paper, if you have it just buy the natural earth diamond so your wife wont have to lie to her friends or me tion the word synthetic to her friends.don’t downgrade yourself
These comments don’t reflect the narrative of how poor Africans are lowered to ungodly claustrophobic depths to retrieve natural diamonds … if true… any stone is better…
😂😂😂
wut?
Love the video as usual. I asked my wife what she would prefer after describing prices for a 2 carat. She said she would prefer natural. I would always disclose nature or man made to my wife. Honesty is always the best policy
So spend double/triple the price just bc the wife says “natural”…… as if she or any jeweler she would take it to would be able to tell if it was natural or lab grown.
She sounds like a red flag….
She wants natural tell her you want a natural….see how that goes hahaha
theres plenty of diamonds
@@PLC11and all lab grown diamonds are labeled so anybody with a loop can tell it’s a lab diamond.
@@survivalSC are you suggesting they are somehow labeled inside the diamond? Kid WTF are you talking about 😂. They are “labeled” on the certificate. A lab grown diamond through a loop or microscope looks exactly the same as a regular diamond….. and “lab grown diamonds” are exactly the same as other diamonds, same exact makeup etc. it’s impossible to tell the difference without the cert. but if you want to spend triple the price, have at it. At the end of the day it’s a rock….from earth….. only made famous really in the 60s through marketing…..
@@PLC11they have serial numbers homie
In Western Australia where I live, we have a diamond mine that produces the worlds best pink diamonds. They have made the commercial decision to close the mine. They have stocks that are probably not selling due to the cost vs lab grown. Diamonds are bad investments these days.
Stick with gold.
Just buy a lab grown and enjoy it 😂
Would’ve been great to own one. Michael has a or had a valuable pink diamond and mentioned the mine closing in a prior video
Yeah but if you have the budget to be buying argyle diamonds, you might as well buy to hold and park your money. Its guaranteed to retain and go up in value.
Good!
Buy CZ even smarter @@pleun315
2 or 3 months salary was started when that salary equated to a $800 to $1200 ring on the high end. Costs of living was different then when you could buy a home for $27,000 and a new Corvette for $4500
Lab grown seems to have no disadvantages
They don't, the whole natural diamond industry is built on a hail mary marketing campaign by DeBeers
And you're cutting out the companies using child labour in Africa or wherever. It's a win-win all around.
@@TheMisterTango dont forget mining them is a huge cost, ive worked in a diamond and gold mine, theres zero incentive to mine them anymore
Thanks to lab growns its adios to the devils industry.... Finally 🙏
Unless you want to re-sell them.
Went to Dubai. Bought my first lab grown diamond. It's a 3.5 radiant cut, VS1, E color and it is GORGEOUS 😊
what was the cost like
He probably right around 10k or so. Mine is half a carat smaller. Don't forget you have a band and maybe more diamonds you might add.
you are stupid to invest in lab grown Natural ones is for $7,000 5 carat with same specification 20.02
@@neilwattoodude , for 10k you can get up to 10 carat diamond with perfect cut , f colour , and vs1 or vvs2 clarity 😂 . It is sad how this sellers are basically ripping off the skin out of your wallet and how they are tricking you to believe that you just saved up some money with their "steal deal" 😅😅
@@neilwattooyes , I just checked , and I found shit ton of 10 carat f colour vs1 stones for less than 9k , and these stones are really good , like cut is nearly perfect because you can see hearts easily on the back of it , and this two kind of squares in centre from front view . Diamond market is overpriced af..
At 13:00 min, he mentioned about a brown blue tint to diamonds having a lower value even if the color, cut & clarity is top quality. What is the definition of that brown blue tint called? Is there a word for it? That seems quite important and wasnt explained in detail in the video
LAB!!!! And I’ve already bought several!! No regrets!!!!!!
When you give something as a gift with love, you create a story that will be remembered, and that story and moment are more precious than any diamond.
gaaaaaay.
@@OngoGablogian185 Only if your mother is male.
@@OngoGablogian185 Only if your mother is male.
@@OngoGablogian185 Only if your motheeeeer is maleeee.
@darkomitovski Absolutely correct.
Bought my fiancé a lab grown diamond ring and necklace from happy jewelers. She loves them and I loved the prices. 🎉🎉
And one day you needed cash, you thought about what would make money, you took the diamond to the diamond dealer and she offered you 1 dollar: D
Very informative vid, I really did not know lab diamonds had come down in price as much as they have. Interesting to note there was a day when the finest natural pearls were more expensive than diamonds. That all changed when cultured pearls were developed. It will be interesting to see how the future unfolds for diamonds.
I have read lab grown diamonds loose their luster radiance over time. The price is so affordable it could easily be replaced when the time comes. I think both are lovely it is really up to the individual to decide which one works for them. This video is wonderful! Thank you!
WOW! Great exploration and a reality check as was the first lab grown diamond video with Mr Patrick Fay at Big Diamonds USA. Awaiting the Peter Marco Clunkers to emerge on the scene.
I would be very happy recieving a lab-grown diamond and I would also be very happy with a smaller, higher quality natural diamond. That was a fun video. Thank you Michael, Adam and Happy Jewelers 😃
Wife and I talked about upgrading our rings after our 20th year anniversary. After looking at both lab grown and mined, we went with the lab grown. If it's molecularly the same, and visually identical, there really isn't much of a reason NOT to go with the lab grown. AND it was much cheaper. At the end of the day folks can make their own choice, but now you have an option that won't hurt your wallet and is identical to the other.
+ you have less blood on your hands. Those mines are rough
Except you are taking work away from the people mining them.
Its an ego thing but.....be wise and buy lab grown 😂
Lab diamonds are just clones. Are you going to buy a clone Rolex? Clone Ferrari? Etc where will it end.
@@bdegrds whats wrong if you cant see the difference... Are you that insecure 😂
"Most women want size... wait.... hold on...." 🤣
... and THEN it hit me 🤣
yes my wife would not marry me unless i gave her 5 carat Natural for $1,500
Love how they try to avoid the question of buyback since they are basically worthless and they have TONS on stock so they dont want them back
A number of years ago a guy stole $20 million from a bank, he then spent the cash on a cash of diamonds. When he was caught the diamond sellers refused to return the cash to the bank, and no-one was willing to buy the diamonds for that value. In the end the bank was stuck with the diamonds which they had to sell of piecemeal. Diamonds or worth less than a car, A car dealer will usually buy your car back if returned within a week, diamond dealers will pay you 30-50% less than what you paid for your diamond.
5:26 $10k buy, sell it back for $7k lose $3000,
5:39 buy it for $1200, sell it back for $500 lose $700
$2300 difference still good to have a lab dimond!
I would have hoped you talked about the different technologies used to produce labs and the consequences on quality
My hubby purchased a 3 ct marquise cut lab-grown, set in a 14K yellow gold band with platinum prongs as my engagement ring. That thing was too huge for me! I was uncomfortable. We exchanged it for a 1 ct size marquise and it's perfect! I don't care that it's not natural. We don't like the stigma of "blood diamonds" so we chose lab, and we're not made of money, either. We got a really beautiful ring and didn't have to break the bank.
I'm in the same boat here. Just proposed this last week, but i feel like she wants mined. Any woman who is smart enough to want lab is a keeper.
I got some lab grown 2.30 ct princess cut diamond studs for 1000$ i like then better than my natural princess cut studs 1.40 ct I paid 1800$ I'll never buy natural diamonds again
I’m in a process of creating/purchasing a 4.03ct lab-grown emerald cut diamond, VVS2, Color D set on a 4mm 18K ring for less than $2500. Just Makes Sense!
Upgraded my wife's engagement ring for our 10th anniversary. We went with lab, really a no-brainer. Exactly the same, chemically, structurally, visually and practically, for way less money. She loves it!
Great nice fascinating magnificent
Lab buyers, pleeaaassee stop saying they are exactly the same and visually the same when that is the farthest from the truth. Labs are real diamonds yes, but not the same as natural diamonds, if they were there would be NO way of telling them apart, no way at all. The reason they can be told apart is because they are not the same. Blue hues, brownish pink and grey hues and metalic inclusions which natural diamonds do not have. I'm happy your wife loves her ring and I'm sure it's pretty, I'm just tired of hearing people say they are exactly the same when it's not true. Even the GIA at a seminar gently slapped the wrist of jewelers for not educating themselves about lab diamonds and not being honest with their customers. It's on youtube you should look it up it's very interesting.
They are literally the same to the naked eye and through a loop. The ONLY way to tell the difference is with a high-powered microscope and reading the serial number where it says "lab-grown." So unless your friends carry around a high-powered microscope and look at your ring with that, no one can or will be able to tell the difference. If you have friends like that then you have bigger problems!!!! Save yourself some money and get a lab-grown.@@usfanlovesminho5085
@@usfanlovesminho5085nope. They are the same. Unless you have the equipment to distinguish trace chemistry or test for phosphorescence… they are both diamond, same properties.
@@usfanlovesminho5085 u gave me a headache, such a bad take
Facts about the blue-hue.. I’ve noticed that lab stones almost always appear to have a blue-hue under the appropriate lighting
I'l buy both! Natural has more meaning and investment potential particularly natural color diamonds while lab created diamonds are just bought as accesories.
Natural is a depreciating asset.
With lab growth, natural values will fall, due to lower demand.
And with the inflating supply each year, there's not enough demand to eat up the supply
Did you say a diamond is an investment? Lol 😅 How bout you buy 1 before you even think of buying 2.
@@neilwattoo do not be an ignoramus! Pink diamonds for example have risen in value HIGHer than real estates and putting your money in the bank! Red diamond used to costs less than $1 million dollars per carat and today they are at least $7 million dollars per carat! The Archduke Joseph Diamond was sold in 1993 for $6 million dollars but in 2012 it was auctioned for nearly $23 million dollars!
What have you learned today!?
My first Bridal set is 1.5ct natural diamond. My 10yr is here, and I got a bigger lab grown ring to go with my natural 2 wedding bands. Essentially, I just wanted a bigger engagement ring, to swap out my original. I kept my original 1.5ct natural ring and I'll admit, I am still hesitant about my 3ct lab grown engagement ring. When paired in between my natural diamond bands, you cannot tell the difference between lab grown ring and the natural bands.
I must admit I enjoy a natural diamond more than lab grown. However i do have some diamonique pieces that give me a good sparkle. Just buy what looks/feels right and hits your pocket in the right way.
Happy Jewelers are very cool! Glad to see them with every celebrities!!
I went natural for my 1st engagement- and will do lab for our 10yr anniversary- upgrade to a 5carat lab emerald cut with the savings we are taking a trip to Egypt to see the pyramids
Cool!
It should be the other way around. You have less money available when you're getting engaged compared to ten years married.
I have bought two lab grown diamonds, one for myself 1.4 carat and 1.6 carat for my wife. We both love them.
I want and will only get the natural period. I don't care about size, I care about the real natural feel of the dimonds and other gems.❤
There's no "natural feel" difference between lab grown and natural, they look and feel exactly the same. You won't be able to tell the difference unless you carry around a specialized device 🙂
WoW ! Thank you All for that video. I'd never have guess 'lab grown' were so close that now it's impossible to tell with the eyes.I've been too broke and Never 'flashy' even when dressed for 'full dress' parties and I do simple polished silver chains that are braided and reflected along with 1/8th carrot stud earrings.I lost 1 and it's quite hurtful.To know I can get a copy does help allot.TY.
They were always that good it's just the industry getting in trouble lying about them that's changed.
They get rated with the same scale.
One carat lab grown cost 25$ to produce that s why jewelers love to sell them ( huge profit) , they also need a small natural diamond to grow on it and need lots of electricity for the pressure and temperature needed to make them . Synthetic emeralds , rubies and sapphires were used by big brands, like cartier , van cleefs etc in the 1920´s , today every one wants natural stones … let see what will happen
the jeweller doesn't pay the price at production, they get cut (labour costs) then pass through multiple hands that all want their own margin so by the end when it gets to the jeweller to be set the margins aren't significantly higher, based on what they're saying in the video if you watched it at all and the market trends people don't want mined nowadays like they used to so no idea where you got that from.
Gem quality rubies, emeralds and sapphires are significantly rarer than diamonds for the most part. The diamond scarcity that makes it pricey is artificial. Lab grown should reduce that artificial price increase.
Take it easy boomer
My engagement ring is a lab grown 2 carat. It’s beautiful and a size that is completely believable. We’re middle class, have a nice home in a nice HOA community and drive newer Nissans. In my opinion, anything larger than a 2 carat and you should be getting out of a Mercedes when you pull up to your million dollar home or it will be assumed you’re wearing a CZ or a moissanite. My lab grown was within our “pay cash” budget at $2,500 and a real diamond. Enough said.
People who choose natural diamonds really say it's the human suffering that makes diamonds better
they say that a lab diamond will pass the diamond tester but there is a special machine that can tell the difference. So what characteristic does the special machine measure/detect in a lab vs natural?
Just buy lab grown. Literally no difference and much cheaper. The only reason someone should buy real is if money is never an issue. The whole “my wife wants a natural”….as if that b*** can actually tell…. Stay away from the gold diggers my friends! 😂
Moissanite way smarter
@@fannywayne1920wild guy I’d never buy mossiante shit looks terrible if you can’t get the real the lab diamond is the second best and they’ve pretty much explained that it’s passing most test
I just upgraded to 5 carat radiant lab in platinum with natural diamonds on each side. Couldn’t be happier. I love both and honestly most people cannot afford large carat weight in a natural choice. I have nothing negative to say about lab especially if you do not plan to go bigger or sell it. They are every bit as real and beautiful.
Very educational!!! Thank you Michael 👍🙏❣️
Dear Sirs.
You explain everything so honest and understandeable !
Thank you !
There is something special and alluring about wearing a singular diamond. A naturally mined diamond has a rarity factor that makes it more appealing than a mass-produced imitation. Knowing that the earth produced a diamond over millions of years makes a real gemstone feel more sentimental and valuable than one whipped up in a sterile laboratory
24:13 I really love the contrasting sub dials on that beautiful AP ! BUT is that a natural AP or a lab grown AP?
companies like debeers have been holding back supply for many many years to artificially inflate prices. not to mention child labour and exploitation of a countries resources. lab grown are the best thing to happen to the diamond industry in my opinion.
well said
That was a great episode, thanks for making it.
What's to stop lab grown from becoming very cheap and worthless as more lab grown manufacturers come to the industry?
They consolidated and signed a gentleman agreement. Also you have to build the lab, pay people and the retail need to make money too. There will be a silver lining to the price
nothing, the resale value is already a fraction of the retail price. the truth is with lab a lot of the price comes from the cutting and labour that goes into the stone so they'll always have at least the base line price from the labour that goes into it and the cost of the CVD machines or the cubic presses that are used to manufacture them. as time goes on and the methods get more efficient and further perfected they'll get even cheaper and you'll get large high clarity stones for even less. mined diamond will suffer too as the only difference between lab and mined is phosphorescence. at the end of the day the value is purely marketing as diamonds are not rare at all, sapphire, emerald and ruby are all rarer. the only rare diamonds are naturally coloured ones. natural and millions of years old means nothing at all, the iron used to make the cutlery in my kitchen draw is also natural, millions of years old and mined, same with anything that comes from the earth its all fluff and marketing.
@@Alex-go3jn 100% it's all a big farce
Since it takes about 6 weeks to grow a 1 carat diamond there is a limit to how cheap it can be when you consider the equipment costs, and having to wait 6 weeks before you can make a sale. Which is probably the current prices. Now if they find a way to grow them in a week or a day, than you'll probably be able to buy them at Dollar General.
@@Alex-go3jn Well that's pretty good then. If you really want a pretty shiny stone to wear, buy something used that is chemically identical to something that's 100x more expensive. Sounds like a cracking good deal to me.
Really it is a matter of preference and budget. Although I personally prefer natural diamonds, I would consider lab for a large tennis necklace. I find it hard to compare a rare natural diamond on auction at Sotheby's with a manmade lab diamond of the same size for example. For some people, it is also about the find and discovery of a natural diamond. You do not have that in a lab diamond because it is manmade and grown in a lab. Also, if someone is concerned about the environment, wouldn't it be better to buy a vintage diamond?
I am sorry, but I still love my natural diamond, which is high grade in colour and clarity. It wouldn't feel the same if it was made in a laboratory. You can get emerald made in a lab, but I'd only want an emerald coming from the ground
It would be intersting to see you do a video comparing moissanite to lab grown diamonds. Also, would love a video investigating whats happening with these Frankenstein watches that are more and more frequently appearing in the marketplace.
As a jeweler myself who has to polish the film of Moissanites. They are not a diamond! After a year or two they get a oxidization layer on them that cannot be cleaned. They don't even come close to a lab or natural diamond in light performance, durability or wearability. ...And if you are a real jeweler you can tell without any magnification.
Great Video Michael and friends!
Natural only for me.
You meant the mining ⛏️ ones
I love that it's called the Sherlock Holmes Machine. That's definitely what we need to tell the difference here, I couldn't tell them apart at all. Very educational video, thank you.
It detects type IaA lattice impurity arrays which is signature of natural diamond, lab grown diamond is type IIa lattice (100% chemically pure diamond).
I struggle with lab growns. I would always prefer natural that took millions of years to grow. So much more meaning in it.
Silly boomer
These guys are great, clearly very passionate about their trade.
At the beginning of the video, I thought it was another video about lab-grown diamonds. Meanwhile, I'm already an expert in it. But because the videos on this channel are always interesting, I watched it anyway, and it turns out I knew almost nothing about lab-grown diamonds. Thanks for the advice and another fun/interesting video, Michael, Adam, Gabe, and Danny from Happy Jewelers.
Wow Michael 👍 good education for many people out there today.. thank you for sharing your information with the rest of the humble world out here 10-10-10
I would buy lab grown. If my wife asked how much they were, I would happily tell her, and then she would want more because they are so cheap. Diamond is her birth stone anyway so she has tons of them.
1969my husband brought me an engagement diamond ring.That time we were young and have not much knowledge about diamond.my ring got a dark spot in the middle.l treasure it and know this is a special piece and no other ring can compare.He is in haven now but whenever l look at the ring everyday ,he is actually living there.l love that special dark spot.
Bought my wife a natural diamond for $10k when we got married, we traded it back in now for our 10th anniversary and with that money bought her a new ring that was triple the size and had money left over for her to get necklace and earrings. Lab grown diamonds are a no brainer, the vast majority of people will never buy natural again as it makes absolutely no sense.
Once you buy a lab grown CVD diamond to sell it back dealers will offer you almost nothing for CVD (lab grown). They will buy them when they need them ( a customer asks for one) and pay 85% to 90% off the the price of a comparable natural diamond.
I would do natural for special occasions like marriage or giving a gift to mom, daughters or grandchildren. Labs are good for everyday wearing.
Great nice fascinating magnificent
You asked for a comparison between natural and lab grown diamonds? Here it is:
Refractive index, Dispersion
Nat: 2.44, 0.044
Lab: 2.44, 0.044
Formula, Hardness
Nat: C, 10
Lab: C, 10
Density, conductivity
Nat: 3.53 g/ml, 2.2 kW/mK*
Lab: 3.53 g/ml, 2.2 kW/mK*
*If metal inclusions are present: 2.10-2.30 kW/mK
@@beartutor3377 no I didn’t 🤦🏻♂️🤣
@@BIGMANMUSIK this is so you stop crying like a little b*tch, and start facing reality. Sorry bud
I am intrested in purchasing a ring but always wanted to know this information
I appreciate the knowledge in which you and the guys at happy jewelers shared
Definitely lab grown. I actually see them significantly disrupting the real diamond market in a few years.
A market which really needs disrupting. De Beers have a very... colourful history and still control about 65% of the diamond market.
sorry its not happening .. CZ been around for years prettier and much cheaper people still aim for natural .. Lab diamonds will go down the same road .. way over priced a moissanite is wayyy better buy
@@TheAlkennedy they own the lab diamond factories .. THINK!!!!!
@@fannywayne1920no they don’t.
@@TheAlkennedythey used to control about 80% of the Industry and it's about time they got checked.
Never thought I could be bothered listening to a video about Lab grown Diamonds but, you made it fun to watch ! Of course, when you see just one Diamond, Real or Labgrown, you woulden't see the difference but, one next to the other..., I observed a difference in light.
The Labgrown seemed somehow like 'to perfect', a bit more bluish. I guess I could chose a slightly more yellow tint in a Labgrown one. ; ))
This was a fun Video !
I think there's something special about buying something that took millions of years to be naturally made with heat and pressure. An object that is OLDER that dinosaurs. Its pretty cool if you think of it.
BUT if i got married, an engagement ring at $2k is a great idea.
White zircon! Dating back more than 4.4 billion years! You’re welcome my friend 😉✊💜
buy anything made from metal, same premise, alll been here millions of years, cars literally run on fossil juice, nothing special at all.
@@Alex-go3jn The only process metal ever underwent was in the death of a star. It takes tons of ore to get even 1/2 carat of diamond. And chances are that 1/2 carat is not worthy to put into jewellery. Natural jewellery quality diamonds are relatively rare and finding larger of those gets exponentially rarer. Diamonds come from 10s of millions of years of formation and had to really beat the odds to not reach the surface as scrap. So no, not at all comparable to metal or 'fossil juice' as quality diamonds are actually special after all. Please learn about things before spouting nonsense about them.
@@Alex-go3jn Everything is stardust including metals and the carbon that is formed into diamond over many millions of years. And what good are diamonds in the cosmos? Do you even know how supply and demand work. No, it is you who has a lot to learn.
Dinosaurs are not real.
Finally some lab diamond talk! I still remember the OG willy wonka type guy from years ago. Legend.
I have always LOVED my diamonds. I used to have a pair of real diamond earrings that were a reasonable size….devastatingly I lost one, but sadly they weren’t insured ,😢😢😢 My hubby purchased some CZ earrings to replace them years ago ( couldn’t tell the difference back then) as I didn’t trust myself not to loose them, I had also in the past lost a bracelet that was specifically made, gold horse shoes with rubies at each end…it was stunning and I lost it on our honeymoon moon. I now have ALL my diamonds and gold insured, lol, I also lost a yellow and rose gold bracelet, luckily it was insured and was able to get a replacement. So because of all my mishaps with jewellery….seems to be the bane of my life, I would DEFINITELY LOVE one of those huge lab grown diamond rings. I love the bling ! Even if I had millions I would still buy lab grown, you seriously can’t tell the difference and they are still “diamonds” just sped up grown diamonds. 💎💎💎
Thanks for the video Michael and Adam, interesting as always. !
Love from Australia ❤❤❤
I'd never want to sell you insurance on jewelry but was a smart move to get your jewelry insured since you just leave it laying around no matter where your at.
You're husband married a loser.
Smaller, natural because it's intended to mean/signify something special/lasting just as Clogau (Welsh) Gold is beautiful and rare with a colour like no other Gold of any carat.
I believe as time goes on the lab diamonds so mass produced they'll keep dropping to the point they become hard to sell causing it to drop in price drastically which is a good thing in my opinion makes it easier to obtain for your average joe worker.
Great nice fascinating magnificent
@ruto9576 in the UK dealers refuse to buy used diamonds and only pay scrap value for gold jewellery
I would buy a natural engagement ring with lab grown earing's and necklace. Very interesting video today, nearly didn't watch but am glad I did..
Same
Tell them about Moissanite. Jewelers absolutely hate it since it's so cheap and they can't profit as much anymore.
It is also worthless.
moissanite holds up like shit and looks wack with its different refractions
Agreed and as you can see they hate LGD even more. Trying to sell the same natural stuff for 10x price searching for excuses like no resale value etc. Pure desperation, gold rush is over
@@jancula9 yup.
Amo el brillo de la moissanita ❤ lo mas especial es que llego del espacio
As a Gemologist, I predicted this decades ago when only smaller synthetic diamonds were made in a lab. Now larger, difficult to identify from natural diamonds are proliferating. Instruments to seperate the two can cost thousands. Therefore, IMO, as synthetic diamonds continue to saturate the market, diamond prices--accross the board--natural or not, are going to continue to gradually decline. Then, when the masses realize what's up, prices will crater all at once. Not so with finer, high-quality Colored Stones, which IMHO, are more immune to the synthetic issue (easier to identify from natural) and will continue to be stable in value and, IMHO, are way, way more pleasing to look at and own.
I can't understand why someone would deliberately want to pay more for exactly the same only to be sure that the process that lead to them holding the diamond certainly was more wasteful, probably child labor involved, if not at least people are being exploited on the way. Why would someone chose this over a clean lab grown diamond (imagine, maybe created with renewable energy)
Because the lab grown DIAMOND is crap. Ask any true gemologist
@@robertlulek1634 its the same no need to ask
How is it crap when it has the same exact molecular structure as a diamond? GIA certifies them, would they certify something that is junk.... no, no they wouldnt. @@robertlulek1634
@@robertlulek1634 So you already seem tot have asked a true geologist. What was the reason? Why is a lab grown diamond "crap"? It's literally the same thing.
@@robertlulek1634 This is a popular misconception since understanding that synthetics are real requires a certain level of basic chemistry understanding as well as objectivity/common sense… not everyone has those. Also yes this is a rather condescending statement but reality hurts sometimes
Great video, it’s reassuring to know someone like you Micheal states your opinion on matters like this amazing!
My fiancé and I talked about lab vs natural diamonds when discussing engagement rings. She is big on ethically sourced everything, so we went with lab. We both realize as the tech scales and becomes more readily available, lab will depreciate harder and will eventually become much cheaper to produce overall, but that really didn't matter to either of us.
Labs already are much cheaper to produce than naturals. The profit percentage on labs is much higher than in diamonds. Labs are making the fat cats even richer.
You could have bought a diamond from Canada and many other places with ethically sourced mines. Also labs are worthless once you buy it so depreciating is not something you need to worry about since it has no resale value right out of the gate. But I'm happy you like the diamond you ended up choosing.
But why does it matter if it's a diamond anyways you see someone on the street with a diamond you wouldn't be able to tell if it's a lab or natural without the cert in his back pocket, has no resale value but the loss from buying a natural diamond at the same cut and carat and selling it is more than the price of the lab diamond all together.
@@TristanOvery That's always been the way. Most people can't tell what you've got by just looking at it. But that's irrelevant because people still want the exclusivity from buying an original piece of art or designer suit/purse or natural stone. People thought lab emeralds would destroy the natural market too -nope!
@@usfanlovesminho5085 You liars about resale value. Show me the side by side public sale of the same diamond.
Hello producer Michael! I love your videos on lab grown diamonds!
On your next lab grown diamonds video. (If you choose to make another one) you should visit a laboratory where they’re actually growing them.
Love the video, very informative. I have all natural diamonds, just got an upgrade at 25 years to a 3.5 carat natural radiant cut and I honestly do love the fact that it’s natural but we had the budget for it. I now have children that are buying engagement rings and I 100% support the lab grown choice for both my sons and their budget and my daughter and her desire for a large stone! Also, one thing that wasn’t mentioned, it seems that the new generation feel that the lab grown is more environmentally friendly as well as more ethical??
For me i love natural diamond, because natural and simplicity is still beautiful god bless.
In my opinion, diamonds have always been overpriced because it is a "must have" for engagement... There is literally no reason to choose a natural diamond over a lab grown, other than spending more money.
Also, I don't think you really need a ring to get married, might as well enjoy a good vacation together instead 🤷
It takes 2-3 billion years for an earth mined diamond to form, not 10 thousand years. In general, a lab diamond will be between 60-70% less than earth mined. The only way to tell the difference between these diamonds is the crystal growth pattern within the diamond with specialized equipment. Both are beautiful!! I’ve been following the development of lab grown since 2006. Watch out for a slight brown tint to lab grown. I love the GIA certification. My lab-grown anniversary band is certified too. Whether earth mined or lab grown, enjoy your beautiful diamonds.
Where is best place to buy lab grown
On my opinion it's better a small natural diamond then a lab one.
Great insight into the difference, but i love to see how the lab ones are made, is it like the pearls with natural against cultured ones.
As a gem lover I will always want the natural diamond.
Side question if anyone out there knows. Can you digitally scan a diamond to map the occlusions for security purposes? If you could, then anyone could register their diamond in the database for security right. Wouldn't end theft but would be one more step to help.
Value depreciation on natural diamonds is the main factor for me to choose the synthetic diamonds.
They are NOT synthetic! They are REAL DIAMONDS.
In essence: on a lab grown your spending basically for having it made but it’s a worthless stone. It’s like buying glass.
A natural diamond is not an investment but it’s real and you can get some money back.
I’d rather get a very high quality half carat real natural diamond for her for an every day use where it won’t get in the way. Not to big not to small, won’t get stuck on anything and if she accidentally loses it down the sink I’m only out maybe $2700 (diamond only) with setting maybe 3400-4000. I’ll do a half carat natural very high quality. Thank you for this video it helped me a lot
I will always buy the natural because of it's spiritual power. Same with rubies and other stones
What is a lab grown mean, because they have lab grown sapphire's and other different stones ruby's emeralds and so own how are they grown or made ?
THERE IS NO DIFFERENCE except the price (Both are made from carbon). Like, there is no difference between Ice naturally made at the North Pole and Ice made in your home freezer. Both are made from water H20.
The difference is the rareaty... lab synthetic diamonds made in lab.. Natural diamonds dug out of a mountain.. 😂😂😂
I haven't purchased any lab grown yet but I wouldn't hesitate to do so. I've been married to my wife for 20 years so I am not concerned with resale and she wouldn't care either way. value is king
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