The INSANE Lore of Mega Man ZX

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  • @TheBlackMastadonte
    @TheBlackMastadonte  3 วันที่ผ่านมา +44

    Thanks so much for watching! Be sure to check out my new merch on my website. Use code "DonteZX" to get 15% off
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    • @ordinary_deepfake
      @ordinary_deepfake 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Why you say it like twenty x e x

    • @Grapller_duck
      @Grapller_duck วันที่ผ่านมา

      Bro, try reading my life as a loser. I promise you that the story is good. It's also made by ptj

    • @danielsveinbergs5892
      @danielsveinbergs5892 วันที่ผ่านมา

      The beginning after the end is releasing again, there are like 20+ new chapters since you posted

    • @wendigo8118
      @wendigo8118 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Hey man have you considered reviewing Azure Striker Gunvolt?

    • @aprilbluebird8327
      @aprilbluebird8327 8 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Dude there's crazy stuff happening on tbate these days you gotta make more reactions! Ive binged almost all of your reacts in 2 days as a substitute now that tbate is on haitus to prepare for its upcoming anime 😢 don't let us dowwwn, we need moooore

  • @TheBlackMastadonte
    @TheBlackMastadonte  4 วันที่ผ่านมา +202

    Thanks so much for your patience, fam. I am happy to say the wait is FINALLY over. Today we delve into the insane lore of Mega Man ZX

    • @ryuushinzo3559
      @ryuushinzo3559 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      No need to thank us man. Thank YOU for taking the time and making the effort to do all this for us. Words can't express the give you've given us with these lore dives.

    • @robertlafrance9974
      @robertlafrance9974 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      No need to thank us dude you are the goat

    • @aliastheabnormal
      @aliastheabnormal 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      My theory is that the pseudorids represent a part of their originals. Hivolt and Hurricanue represent Harpuia's arrogance and cynicism as well as lighting and wind. Lurrue and Leganchor represent Leviathans pettiness and wrathful nature alongside water and ice. Fistleo and Flammole and Fefnir;s love of battle and sheer physical might alongside fire and ground. Puprill and Protectos represent Phantom's ruthlessness and stalwart nature alongside his agility and ninja techniques. Prometheus is Weil's hate and destructiveness, Pandora is his cold calculating nature and nihilism. Serpent is Weil's ambition and delusions. The evil Megamen are dark reflections of the guardians. Master Albert represents Weil's god complex and extremism. And Thomas is Weil's manipulative nature and chessmaster tendencies.

    • @metalwolfzx
      @metalwolfzx 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      No, thank YOU for hard work and dedication to this project, it's amazing to see one of my favorite video games ever receive coverage like this.

    • @darkwingdanger3661
      @darkwingdanger3661 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      I know many people would rather wait in anticipation for a well made video, and a well told story, than something rushed and terrible. Really, thank you for taking time to produce quality.

  • @Captain-Thievius
    @Captain-Thievius 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +202

    ZX Villain: This world must be reset!
    Me: Does this “reset” involve flooding the world, and having Humans and Reploids replaced by artificial beings called “Carbons”?
    ZX Villain: ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

    • @kolkagaming1234
      @kolkagaming1234 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +20

      Yes. It has been theorised that Master Thomas is responsible for Humanity’s extinction.

    • @BaxterAndLunala
      @BaxterAndLunala 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      ​@kolkagaming1234 I'd rather prefer if it was the result of the bad ending of X5.

    • @stunseed8385
      @stunseed8385 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +22

      ZX hero: "Well that sounds stupid."
      *6000 years later*
      "Hey megaman, watch out for that reaper bot!"

    • @GladDestronger
      @GladDestronger 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      I think it does... IF Capcom ever gets off their lazy ass and decides to make a new game.

    • @Captain-Thievius
      @Captain-Thievius 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

      @ Forget Dr. Wily, Capcom is the true villain of Megaman.

  • @Estellise64
    @Estellise64 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +118

    The thing about Inti Creates while they make good games, a lot of the important lore is locked behind audio dramas and art books. It's such a shame the ZX series would never continue on.

    • @TheBlackMastadonte
      @TheBlackMastadonte  3 วันที่ผ่านมา +19

      Yeah I feel that

    • @KaitouKaiju
      @KaitouKaiju 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

      These are handheld games they can only fit so much in them

    • @Tobby_the_53rd
      @Tobby_the_53rd 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

      pokemon black/white 2 are like 500mb, while megaman zx and zxa are like 64mb, i think they had more than enough space to put the audio drama somewhere, even if is just in a extra menu made on a rush

    • @fefyfona4318
      @fefyfona4318 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      The most unfortunate part is that they didn't release those audio dramas and comics in the legacy collections 😢

    • @Tomycase
      @Tomycase 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

      @@Tobby_the_53rd Tbf, Capcom gave them just a year to develop/package/release each ZX games, which explains some missing yet needed content

  • @OmegaJX
    @OmegaJX 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +125

    The fact that ZX Advent will celebrate it's 18th Anniversary next year... is this how Mega Man Legends fans feel?

    • @TheFluBugZ
      @TheFluBugZ 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +16

      At least we have re-release for all of Zero and ZX games that play on modern systems. Can't say the same for Legends.

    • @TheKnizzine
      @TheKnizzine 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +16

      The ZXA secret ending hurt us Legends fans too. Presumbly the baddies won leading into Legends. Lol

    • @zigmus00A
      @zigmus00A 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      Real fans know the pain of ZXAF
      😭

    • @javiervasquez625
      @javiervasquez625 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@TheKnizzine Nah, i can't see Thomas unleashing yet another energy crisis which gives birth to the Refractors plus a world-wide flood which forces the now existing Carbons to survive on tiny islands surrounded by nothing but sea water. Wathever happened to the world in those 3000 years gap between ZX Advent and Legends, you can bet it had nothing directly to do with the Sage Trinity and all the nonsense which happened 3000 years before.

    • @Amuro1X
      @Amuro1X 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      Buddy, I just like Mega Man, and this is how I feel about the whole series.

  • @DarthMolgy
    @DarthMolgy 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +53

    I love how he defaults to Vent's story "for the sake of simplicity", and then every time he mentions an Aile difference it becomes very clear that her version is the superior one

    • @TheBlackMastadonte
      @TheBlackMastadonte  3 วันที่ผ่านมา +29

      It's crazy. I was set on it because I liked Ashe's design over Gray. But midway through writing the script I seriously contemplated changing perspectives

    • @MinhLe19303
      @MinhLe19303 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

      I'm pretty sure it was the canon one along with Grey's as well, considering how much important lore were from her route and she was used the most as a representation of ZX compare to Vent.

    • @armaggedon390
      @armaggedon390 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@MinhLe19303 Grey and Aile have all the plot while Vent and Ashe... are around.

  • @MagillanicaLouM
    @MagillanicaLouM 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +40

    Its funny Rockman HQ been helping you with these, literally found his channel yesterday. Also good stuff, goated collaboration here

  • @twistedhelix1323
    @twistedhelix1323 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +50

    I'm so glad you were able to do thr series from Megaman-ZX! Thank you for this man, i found you through your Megaman vid and I'll stick around from the looks of it

    • @aztecd3mon854
      @aztecd3mon854 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Yo what's up

    • @twistedhelix1323
      @twistedhelix1323 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @aztecd3mon854 hey man, just watching the premiere

  • @Rodolphin
    @Rodolphin 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

    Here’s my head canon about Vent and Aile. They’re twins. ZXA proved they exist at the same time but also the Japanese trailer of ZX showed them use Model X to transform. The main reason why everyone is confused about who’s actually the protagonist is because of how the dev team structured their story.
    Vent was used to explain the events after Zero 4 while Aile was used to give more context of what’s happening in the current situation we’re in and tease the next game. Another reason why it’s the general consensus that Aile is canon is due to Grey being built by Albert. It’s more believable than someone being a descendant of Albert.

  • @user-uv4wn2xx7o
    @user-uv4wn2xx7o 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +46

    Surprised you didn’t catch the resident evil reference.
    Albert merges with model W becoming Albert W. (Wesker) whose trying to unleash ouroboros on humanity to change the evolution of it as well as become a god over them.

    • @TheBlackMastadonte
      @TheBlackMastadonte  3 วันที่ผ่านมา +23

      Oh my god!! It was right in front of me lmao. Thanks for the call out

    • @Avermra
      @Avermra 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +13

      I don't know. This seems kind of like a coincidence to me because Weil is Vile in Japanese. And it's not like they named Albert (Wily's first name) to make this reference happen
      It worked out very well but I have to question if it's actually intentional

    • @Mumu2k3
      @Mumu2k3 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      @@TheBlackMastadonte Yea, but the thing is, Resident Evil 5 came out barely two years after Mega Man ZX Advent.
      Which means, MMZXA is the guy who said the joke, while RE5 is the guy who said the same joke but louder.

    • @CassiusStelar
      @CassiusStelar 28 นาทีที่ผ่านมา

      No. Its not a Resident Evil Reference, Albert W. Wesker and Model W Master Albert are both references to Dr. Albert W. Wily

  • @brandonwilliams6119
    @brandonwilliams6119 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +40

    By the ZX series, the only real difference between humans and reploids is that reploids have the red triangle on their foreheads to indicate they are reploids. Humans have become more mechanical and reploids have become more organic to the point that they are practically indistinguishable without the red triangle (which some reploids don't even have, like Prairie). Vent and Aile as well as Ashe were humans, but they all had the same capabilities as Grey, a reploid.

    • @gyppygirl2021
      @gyppygirl2021 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

      Prairie does have the forehead triangle, it's just concealed by her hat. (So it effectively doesn't exist. Details.)

    • @jive238
      @jive238 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Well I doubt the reploids were capable of sexual reproduction at that point, only simple mechanoloids like that chicken bot could reproduce, reploids still had to be created. Also ageing and growing not sure if they were capable of that, they only ever specify mortal lifespans given to reploids. Whenever the carbons of megaman legends happen, that's when you have no distinction having all functions of an organic being, hell they're superior as they can just casually swap body parts for machines and back like they're putting on shoes.

    • @Xeno-The-Wanderer
      @Xeno-The-Wanderer 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Humans get machine bodies but it’s not known how much of their organic parts are kept, reploids get a lifespan. Both of them become as close as possible, only thing that can really be missing is reproduction and maybe natural growth but that’s speculation.
      The amount of human parts taken out is presumably almost an entire human body considering certain scenes

    • @HistoryVideoGamesMiscStuff
      @HistoryVideoGamesMiscStuff 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      ​@gyppygirl2021 well, there are reploids who still don't have them. One random NPC reploid mentions that he's from before that policy was implemented.

    • @gyppygirl2021
      @gyppygirl2021 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @HistoryVideoGamesMiscStuff Fair 'nuff. I think the Prairie thing is detailed via official art (Prometheus kinda has the same thing going on), but that doesn't mean all old-models have the triangle.

  • @sunclass7493
    @sunclass7493 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +24

    Finally! This series is awesome. Who knew nerding out about games, especially megaman, is so satisfying?

  • @Spiral-Mark
    @Spiral-Mark 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +15

    I'm super happy that Vent and Aile co-exist in the same universe. I've always headcanon that because of the Mega Man ZX trailer.
    Also, the idea of a good or evil ending for a remake would be super cool!

    • @DarthMolgy
      @DarthMolgy 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Honestly, I think a remake could play more into both of these things by introducing the character you don't play as as your twin and a sort of rival (a la Pokémon ORAS or XY), who would take the opposite path to the one you go; you could also have them get the other halves of the Guardians Bio Metals, as well as Model O and a new Bio Metal based on Copy X (possibly what the C in ZXC actually stood for?) to be a reflection to ZX.
      And now I realise that would make the rival Mega Man OC.

  • @Watery_Grave
    @Watery_Grave 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

    The zero and ZX series are my favorite game series ever it makes me so happy to have ppl still talking about it!!

  • @Rman94
    @Rman94 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    MegaMan ZX Advent was one of my favourite DS games, I played it/replayed it so many times since I didn’t get many games outside of Birthdays and Christmas when I was kid/pre-teen back then.

    • @TheBlackMastadonte
      @TheBlackMastadonte  2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      I feel that completely. I was the same way with Pokemon games

  • @SuperLlama42
    @SuperLlama42 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    I imagine the Chosen joined because classic Main Character Syndrome. "Yeah yeah, ambition evil or whatever, but I'M different. I won't ruin everything!"

  • @Voltackle86
    @Voltackle86 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +27

    Can't believe they left ZX and Legends on cliffhangers. Will never forgive Capcom for that, i'm still pissed about it lol

    • @TheBlackMastadonte
      @TheBlackMastadonte  3 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

      Always wanna make room for a sequel, but never want to actually make the sequel lol

    • @kgmotte2363
      @kgmotte2363 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Worse Still, they'd Started production of Legends 3, they'd actually gotten some core concepts done with a new protagonist(Redish Hair, Dressed in White) and game mechanics (Such as adding some faster Verticality to the fighting), I remember seeing some Demos of it that looked like at the very least a completed stage with functional gameplay... But then Capcom kinda went "You know what? Scrap it!". I don't even know what excuse they gave for scrapping the project...
      Another Franchise that Capcom seems to have just forgotten exists that ticks me off is Breath of Fire... Their last Release was a Mobile MMO that Never made it to the west, and before that was "Dragon Quarter", which was so RADICALLY Different to the rest of the franchise that it just plain didn't fit it at all (You only get 3 total party members, The core game mechanics are completely different, and you are PUNISHED for using your Dragon form by gaining permanent corruption and when it hits 100% you get a Game over and have to restart the whole, but with a higher "rank" that MIGHT unlock some doors but basically does nothing else for you. The whole "Story" is pretty much just "Escape the underground Mega-Dungeon everyone lives in", just keep walking up, nothing else of interest going on here, no world to explore, just more tunnels... It was not a fun experience, to me at least.). Worst part is, they can't even pretend that there wouldn't be an Audience for a new entry to the franchise, who wouldn't want a new RPG where you play a Freakn' Dragon along with his whole team of Characters each from a different species and with their own unique abilities?... Sorry if I went too long on something off Topic...

    • @SuperLlama42
      @SuperLlama42 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@kgmotte2363 "Not enough people are subscribed to our dev blog, clearly there's not enough interest, cancel it." - Dumbass PS3-era Capcom

    • @FrogWizard224
      @FrogWizard224 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

      ​@@kgmotte2363
      The excuse they gave was "lack of fan investment" which is nonsense as fans were constantly engaging Capcom for Legends 3 during development

    • @thomasderosso5625
      @thomasderosso5625 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      ​@@FrogWizard224
      Fans: "Please, please, _please_ give us Legends 3!"
      Capcom: "Dang, it's such a shame that nobody wants a third Legends game."

  • @ecks4657
    @ecks4657 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    It always seemed like Aile & Grey where the stories that Inti Creates wanted to tell. For example, I find it hard to believe that Giro would hide being a guardian from Vent and just pretend that he casually megamerged at the same time. Seems like in that universe, Giro really was uninvolved. Aile's story feels so much more fleshed out, and she just feels like the better written character. Even in ZXA, Ashe has a better story than Vent had in ZX, but Grey's story feels more personal, with him being basically a clone and as a result, he also has a direct relation to Prometheus and Pandora. In comparison, Ashe shouldn't really feel so bad about being a descendant of Albert.

  • @justanactualrealbear
    @justanactualrealbear 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    Amazing video as always man. So hyped for you to cap off the main series timeline by covering the Legends games down the road. Hope these videos keep gaining traction not just to educate people on how crazy this series is, but also show Capcom that people still love Mega Man. Maybe then they'll give us an X9 to properly bridge the X and Zero series, and after we get a Legends legacy collection (which we likely will at some point), eventually get a Legends 3 to give us a definitive end to the main timeline.

    • @TheBlackMastadonte
      @TheBlackMastadonte  3 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      Man if this leads to Capcom revisiting Mega Man I could die happy

    • @justanactualrealbear
      @justanactualrealbear 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@TheBlackMastadonteimagine if it turned out that after the flood that happened post-ZX Advent, a sample of the Model W Biometal was buried intact, and Legends 3 has the reploids (or whatever they're called in Legends, I forget) rediscover it, and it gets revealed that some scientist from the ZX era worked on a cure for Model W in the buried Light Labs (even though the X games don't show Cain working in Light's house/lab, I do remember the comics showing that, so it could work), so Volnutt and co have to go search for it to save the world, bringing the entire main timeline full circle.

  • @OP10thNakama
    @OP10thNakama 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Great video. Good mix of script and ad-lib. Usually content creators who go off script continue to go on and on but you kept it balanced for an hour long video as well.

    • @TheBlackMastadonte
      @TheBlackMastadonte  3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Thanks fam. Because I used to be like that, I've been trying to work on getting better at it. Only want to go on tangents that give you guys more context on the subject matter

  • @Necozuki_III
    @Necozuki_III 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    thanks for the vid man, i needed a refresher, so many things i missed when i was playing these.

  • @alanpulido3205
    @alanpulido3205 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Yo, Ive waited so long for a mega man recap like this and you delivered top tier content. Keep up the sick work, fam.

  • @christopheraustin5915
    @christopheraustin5915 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    I think this game was the first time I realized that mega man was trying to be a love letter to the henshin hero genre, due to the transformations.
    It made everything fall into place for the older games; the themed enemies mimicking the Monster Of The Week, the evolution of themes for enemies from simple gimmicks to more complex ones as they ran out of single concepts for the robot masters to control, protoman whistling to announce his arrival and yellow scarf ala Hakaider, even the plot of Mega Man zero takes cues from the movie Mechanical violator Hakaider

    • @TheBlackMastadonte
      @TheBlackMastadonte  3 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      That would make sense especially cause the creator of Mega Man, Akira Kitamura, was a huge tokusatsu fan

    • @Xeno-The-Wanderer
      @Xeno-The-Wanderer 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Protoman also takes after Cyborg 009, one of Kamen Rider and Super Sentai's creator Shotaro Ishinomori's biggest works. the guy basically is wearing their uniform with the flowing yellow scarf and red colorscheme

  • @No-sr5fb
    @No-sr5fb 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Your videos particularly in this megaman series are amazing brother. Thank you. Please get yourself some rest now, recharge and find peace. We will be here homie

  • @MosEisleyCantinaStories
    @MosEisleyCantinaStories 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    You're lore knowledge on z and zx series is amazing. You're breaking a lot down in the zx I didn't know about

  • @frozarburst6350
    @frozarburst6350 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Glad to see you got help from a Mega Man knowledge expert! That's the kinda collab I'm always down for!

    • @TheBlackMastadonte
      @TheBlackMastadonte  3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Yeah, always down to get some extra help when needed!

  • @yanyjc
    @yanyjc 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    Hey man, awesome video like always. I've always loved your honest gaming history vids, as they always hit that perfect sweetspot between a legitimately good summarization of a certain character, or franchises history, some awesome jokes, and neat trivia behind the creation process and the lore, to create a truly unique and unforgettable experience for videos going over these characters that we all love so much. I understand that videos of this length are pretty daunting to make, so I understand why you wanna put off making one like this for a while, but for certain series like Guilty Gear and Blazblue, I don't think they can be given justice if not covered this way. I look forward to your next videos. Also, what happened to conscience?

  • @ImThunderSky
    @ImThunderSky 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Bro u always cook with these 🔥

  • @zakjumah
    @zakjumah 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    ZX Advent was one of my FAVOURITE games on the ds, glad to see this series get some love!

  • @dwarfrunes9072
    @dwarfrunes9072 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Great job on the video and thanks for bringing out small but important details like prometheus and pandora backstory.
    Had hoped that there would be a sequel after mega man zx advent.

    • @TheBlackMastadonte
      @TheBlackMastadonte  3 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      No problem fam. Thanks for watching

    • @Xeno-The-Wanderer
      @Xeno-The-Wanderer 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      may not be canon but someone on Pixiv made a 4 chapter fan comic about Prometheus and Pandora's backstory so if one wants some neat content (even if its only in japanese) there's a whole fan comic out there
      the artist goes by ひなべ, would leave a link but idk if that's allowed

  • @Mshredfrieza
    @Mshredfrieza 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    That's crazy, just found this channel 2 days ago and finished watching the megaman lore videos and now here is the ZX! Perfect timing and excellent videos!

  • @shinysamurott613
    @shinysamurott613 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    I really appreciate you brought up the drama tracks for Prometheus and Pandora. Their story is already pretty sad in game but that track, plus the art of what they used to look like before being permanently merged with Model W, that came with that album, does alot to contextualise them and their story as tragic. It honestly makes them two of my favorite characters in the series.

  • @noboty4168
    @noboty4168 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Worth the wait. As someone who only played Advent, it was nice to get a firmer grasp on what happened before and during.

  • @atompunk456
    @atompunk456 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    hey man i recently found your channel out of curiosity while looking for megaman lore videos and i gotta say i like how you format these the megaman Z video is my favorite hope you'll make legends in the future

    • @TheBlackMastadonte
      @TheBlackMastadonte  3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Glad you're enjoying the channel! Legends is coming in February. Taking a quick break to cover Ekko from Lol

    • @atompunk456
      @atompunk456 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@TheBlackMastadonte ah take your time king

  • @NeoGuyver2
    @NeoGuyver2 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Love the fact that you're doing this series however I would love to see whether it be a short video or what not with your thoughts were on the transformations cinemas in both ZX and Advent

  • @josephwilliams2406
    @josephwilliams2406 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Happy you made it all this way chief, ZX is a special title for alot of us. It honestly was like Zero rehab since Zero had such a difficulty curve, that and alot of the characters feel like new gens for old ones. Vent/aile is the megaman for the new generation, Giro was like Zero but felt more like protoman(in a brother-like sense) and Prometheus hands down is Bass' spiritual successor. Good work as always, and r.i.p Giro and Model Z. Why does Zero always know how to hurt us😢
    Edit: Interesting how those gundam eras were referenced, because Ashe has a similar personality to the Gundam X protag and Grey's incubation gives off coordinator/genetic modification vibes from Gundam Seed

  • @feywinterfox9630
    @feywinterfox9630 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Up till now I had NO IDEA whatsoever about Model O. I LOVE the lore from this game and I can't believe up till now I have never heard anyone talk about Model O.

  • @NeoZiggy92
    @NeoZiggy92 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Ah man, my favorite of the series!
    From the story/aesthetic/biometal concepts, I can never get enough!

  • @singinglion301
    @singinglion301 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    dude thx for all the effort you put into this video you got a like for sure from me and i am a big mega man fan too so this is very interesting to me i watched and liked all your other videos too. and HQ too.

  • @PkmnMstrJc
    @PkmnMstrJc 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Awesomevideo! Ever since I beat the game and saw that ending it always bugged me that we never got a 3rd Zx game. Can't wait for your legends video now!!!

  • @Silverstar1995
    @Silverstar1995 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Once again, beautiful work man. Remember, improvement includes time to reflect, and that means time to relax. Amazing video, and I look forward to your eventual Legends coverage. I hope Capcom open up and give Inti a chance to create a 4-5 game canon series. There's still room to grow, still stories to tell, and they don't need to involve Blue, X, or Z directly, as we see. Their spirit lives on. Improve, Upgrade, and ROCK On!

    • @TheBlackMastadonte
      @TheBlackMastadonte  3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Thanks so much, fam. I also hope Capcom revisits this series cause it's so cool

  • @malachaiparker6733
    @malachaiparker6733 วันที่ผ่านมา

    you getting more pixelated messed with me XD nice job great video buddy!!!

  • @JustRicky-Oh
    @JustRicky-Oh 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    BROOO I JUST BINGEWATCHED THE OTHER MEGAMAN VIDS LAS WEEK.
    I AM SO HYPED

  • @tonoteat
    @tonoteat 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

    18:53 Dads with Daughters vs. Sons moment

  • @AzraelLevith
    @AzraelLevith 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Thanks for doing the entire series. I enjoy your lore takes.

  • @pockystyx4087
    @pockystyx4087 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I really appreciate how different the protagonists of each game in this duology react to their stories. Makes for some fun replay value. Even if its not as much in Advent.

  • @watchersshadow3323
    @watchersshadow3323 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    One thank you for this video cause it was the ZX games that got into the X and Zero series.
    2. I had mainly played Grey's storyline in my time with the game but played Ashe to see whats up
    3. For Zx, I just stuck with Aile whole jump it just felt right

  • @jerppursh7570
    @jerppursh7570 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Fantastic research and presentation, as usual. Thanks for covering one of my favorite franchises again!

  • @MrDarksol
    @MrDarksol 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Thank God you were able to talk about these 2 games in a way that still felt very enjoyable and major respect that even you like Aile. She is definitely best girl for a legitimately good reason and while the first ZX is simple I do enjoy it as a whole and advent there are things I don't like about it but I can at least say that it didn't improve on the exploration parts and it did give us Aile's magical girl transformation sequence. Though the main problem I have with the zx series as a whole is just that secret ending doesn't lead to anything except for a vague hint that it's supposed to lead into legends but that raises even more questions. Regardless great job with this lore video, hope you had a Merry Christmas and finally Happy Birthday Donte🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉!

    • @TheBlackMastadonte
      @TheBlackMastadonte  3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Thanks so much bro and always being here for these videos

  • @kevingoodman
    @kevingoodman 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I gotta say thank you for the goated videos ! From the og Classic, X, Z, ZX & Legends coming ! The entire MM history & I'm here for it.

  • @selenastar
    @selenastar 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    My obsession with ZX and ZXA led me here. Some seriously well researched stuff, love it.

  • @rellsolomon9824
    @rellsolomon9824 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Thank you my brother for putting this out long time coming I know you did this justice brodie you are the best 💪🏾💪🏾💪🏾💯💯💯

  • @7heart476
    @7heart476 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    @TheBlackMastadonte, your question at 47:30 makes me recall the Soul Calibur series where all the conflicts starts due to various idiots picking up a "giant flesh covered sword with a living eyeball" on it. To answer your questiion, no I wouldn't but at the same time many people would for various reasons; mainly curiosity.

  • @biomegamechdude
    @biomegamechdude 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    these 2 games are what made the DS lite AMAZING, and many games like this. I cannot count the amount of times i beat these games and tried to on hard mode as well. When i think on my fav megaman games, its the ZX and Zero titles, they influence my writing and a lot of the music i'm still into. Another great vid man keep it up. XD

    • @TheBlackMastadonte
      @TheBlackMastadonte  3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      It's so dope hearing how this game hit for so many people, especially when usually folks praise X and MegaMan.exe. Thanks for this comment and thanks for watching.

    • @biomegamechdude
      @biomegamechdude 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@TheBlackMastadonte this and the zero series made me try to own ALL of the battle network titles, both versions of 3 onwards. 5 team colonal was the last i bought though and i always got to the end of a battlenetwork title but never beat any of them, always got stuck on the final boss. Most likely cause i grew up more on games like spyro than ANY RPG save pokemon. I still remember most the GBA and DS games i own fondly,thank God most are on steam now as remasters and such.

  • @cybersoul2809
    @cybersoul2809 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    To clarify: It’s never really specified if the biometals have the minds and memories of the reploids they represent or just their essence

    • @Xeno-The-Wanderer
      @Xeno-The-Wanderer 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      If I recall Model F or H make mention that they must protect humans once again when they're acquired implying they remember their time as the 4 Guardians

    • @cybersoul2809
      @cybersoul2809 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@Xeno-The-Wandererit’s still really vague. It could mean they still have their memories, but it can just as much mean that they know their powers were used to protect people before. We need more concrete evidence

  • @Ashleyuhh
    @Ashleyuhh 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    caught the first half, fell asleep to the second half, woke up to finish it off again. enjoy your 3 views :D great vid!!

    • @TheBlackMastadonte
      @TheBlackMastadonte  3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Thanks, appreciate the dedication to the video lol

  • @CholzizGaruda
    @CholzizGaruda 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Ngl, Vent and Ashe feel like side characters. Aile and Grey have such better stories in their games. wish the vid was done primarily from their perspective

  • @Drewbe821
    @Drewbe821 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Just found your channel through my fyp. Subscribed. Worth it.

  • @fefyfona4318
    @fefyfona4318 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    I was so quick to get the OST to this and Advent when it came out. The music to this series was so damn good!

  • @sterlinggonzalez5229
    @sterlinggonzalez5229 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    not even a fan of MegaMan but i’ve been watching all your megaman story breakdowns. Your storytelling ability and research have re-expanded my attention span.

  • @aigerakabane364
    @aigerakabane364 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I find it funny omega had so much aura a biometal of him just poofed into existence

    • @Xeno-The-Wanderer
      @Xeno-The-Wanderer 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      considering his presence caused holes in cyber space to appear and that can kinda rewrite reality, I like to imagine Model O was a Model W shard infected by Omega's essence and transformed into Model O

  • @Royicahn
    @Royicahn 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Megaman ZX Advent was my intro to the series, so I had NO IDEA all the backdrop for it, the name Weil went so over my head I tought W was for World or something like that.
    THANKS for the videos man, I always loved megaman ZX and Advent as a kid, and now I'm even MORE sad that the 3rd game didn't happen.

  • @bobbyross3524
    @bobbyross3524 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Nnnnnoooiice, dude I’ve come to your channel so late I feel like because i can’t get enough dude, your like my favorite past time lol keep up the hard work brother!

    • @TheBlackMastadonte
      @TheBlackMastadonte  3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Thanks dude, glad you’re enjoying it.

  • @JTRyuujin
    @JTRyuujin 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    Excellent video. I know bits and pieces of ZX lore, but never the whole thing. This helped a ton. Admittedly, I haven't played the ZX series yet, but a friend of mine did gift me the Zero/ZX Collection for my birthday, so I'll give it a go after finishing the X Collection. I could be wrong, but I did hear that while the games are good, they unfortunately didn't sell good. At least from what I've read, it seems like Mega Man games around this time were struggling to make money, which might a reason we never got ZXC unfortunately (and potentially other games like Star Force 4).
    Good news though is that apparently an art book is in the works currently titled Mega Man Legacies, and it'll contain stuff form ZX, Legends, 11, and potentially other Mega Man related stuff.
    I will say, while I do like Model ZX's design, I kind of wish there was more X incorporated into the design somehow. It just looks like an updated MMZ design.

    • @RlKrav
      @RlKrav 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      I'm playing ZX for the first time right now and I DEFINITELY recommend looking up a walkthrough when you play ZX. There are SO many different ways areas are connected, with different doors that are only unlocked after beating certain bosses that you will need to come back to that can be easy to forget. It will save you a lot of frustration and streamline the pacing so you aren't wandering for 10 min - an hour depending how stubborn you are

    • @kdr_roxas
      @kdr_roxas 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      From what I could gather, the main reason for the games not selling well was due to there being an overabundance of titles coming out all at once, which unintentionally divided fans of the series that were already following a specific line of games. Like for example if you were following the Starforce series of games you would probably not want to check out the ZX series for being so radically different.

    • @JTRyuujin
      @JTRyuujin 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@RlKrav Thanks for the advice. I'll keep that in mind.

    • @JTRyuujin
      @JTRyuujin 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@kdr_roxas Yeah, that's pretty much what I think happened. Even if it's a similar series, it doesn't guarantee a lot will play it for various reasons. Someone who loves Battle Network might not touch Star Force, or even a Classic fan might not play X or Zero.

    • @kdr_roxas
      @kdr_roxas 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@JTRyuujin Sadly that also means that Capcom unintentionally shot themselves in the foot and the low sales probably made them think the Mega Man ip wasn't worth the effort despite fans to this day asking for a new entry, we got close with Mega Man 11 and we also got a slight tease in the X Legacy Collections but aside from that it's been radio silence from them and that bums me out :/

  • @abdullahirfan9991
    @abdullahirfan9991 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    If only one of the mcs of ZX advent were named chris we could have Albert saying "You're too late, Chris!"
    Like a certain other Capcom Albert hellbent on unleashing something called Ouroboros.

  • @mightypancake2211
    @mightypancake2211 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    And this is why you grind your villains to a fine paste to ensure nothing can be used for revival.

  • @deoranferguson5657
    @deoranferguson5657 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    You need to see Kirby lore

  • @phantomthief2688
    @phantomthief2688 12 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    dam bro, you really putting in the work to bring us all the lore, Mega man is my favorite video game franchise. Thank You.

  • @torridlight372
    @torridlight372 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    You know Model A is definitely Axl. The power sets and abilities are way too similar to just be a reference. Even the memory loss and not knowing exactly what or who they are. I think the Model Albert thing is just ass coverage to try to disconnect this game from the hate of the last 2 X games and the hate of Axl that followed said games. Eventually, Axl moved past the hate, though. ZX Advent really only exists in its current form because X7 and X8 came out. Without Axl, we wouldn't need to ask, "But what happened to Axl for all the Zero and ZX stuff?". Theres really no other way to look at ZX Advent and Model A.

  • @kolkagaming1234
    @kolkagaming1234 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +29

    After this we then have Mega Man Legends, but Legends 2 ended on a cliffhanger Dr Light’s Dream of Humans & Robots living in peace never became true.
    But hey his dream did not become true in the Legends timeline. But his Dream did become true in 2 different timelines those being the Mega Battle Network Series & the Mega Man Star Force Series.

    • @jpebrz
      @jpebrz 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      Bn and sf are the same timeline

    • @MAveric215
      @MAveric215 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      His dream literally came true in the ZX series (at least until the game of Destiny started). ZX is showing that everything we’ve been fighting for from MM1 to Zero 4 finally paid off. Outside of Master Albert and Model W, there is finally true peace between humans and reploids.

    • @Xeno-The-Wanderer
      @Xeno-The-Wanderer 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      Arguable the Carbons is another form of his dream, humans and machines combined as essentially one species. Sure it came about by a radical figure named after him (who also likely lost) but it happened

    • @Yokai_Yuri
      @Yokai_Yuri 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Nah, Legends is its own thing. Even though it belongs to the end of the timeline, Legends feels like a reset for both reploids/robots and humans. Some unknown event must have happened after ZX that brought the world to a state where top tier techgnology no longer exist and people just live peacefully with the few new gen robots (not reploids) that exist. This is why the Legends world has so many ruins from past times.
      People assume because legend is at the end of the timeline it means they are super advanced as they were in ZX, they are not. Just look how megaman looks.

    • @christopherbravo1813
      @christopherbravo1813 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@MAveric215 Is Peace Through Tyranny really a peace worth fighting for?
      "Coexistence" is enforced through legislation mandating that humans and reploids alike be subjected to alterations of their very bodies in the name of "equality", enforced by military power whose reins are held by three men with near absolute power, no fewer than two of whom have proven to be absolute psychopaths.
      Legion is little better than Neo Arcadia.

  • @7heart476
    @7heart476 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    Bought the MegamanZero and ZX collection on sale for Christmas and loving it.

    • @TheBlackMastadonte
      @TheBlackMastadonte  3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Aye the timing is perfect then

    • @7heart476
      @7heart476 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @TheBlackMastadonte Watched all your megaman vids about three weeks ago and instantly wanted to by the collection but told myself it'd go on sale soon, the struggle was real.

  • @enistoja
    @enistoja วันที่ผ่านมา

    i completely missed the plot of these games when i played them. you did a rad job making this summary!

  • @reggaemortis4117
    @reggaemortis4117 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    "I feel you, bro. I wish you were model Axle, too." Said everybody, lol

  • @crasher3203
    @crasher3203 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Let's go! ZX baby! I only got into the games recently in the collection on Switch, but theyre so fun! So excited for all the lore and story! Loved the Megaman, X, and Zero videos!

    • @TheBlackMastadonte
      @TheBlackMastadonte  3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Thanks fam! Glad you're enjoying the ZX games!

  • @stareyed
    @stareyed 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    my poor man Axl...
    did not get enough screentime/justice in the x series [he seemed pretty cool, imo],
    not present in the z series,
    did not even turn out be be model A in ZX series.
    dang it.
    Justice for Axl

    • @TheBlackMastadonte
      @TheBlackMastadonte  3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I feel you

    • @Xeno-The-Wanderer
      @Xeno-The-Wanderer 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      the door is left open for potential future stories as Biometals still need an essence within them to function. It is at least someone with a copy ability a kin to a new gen reploid.
      to make it Axl it would first require he recover and get an upgraded copy ability which is possible if Lumine's attack leaves some changes to Axl to make him on par with other New Gens though probably to be Lumine's new body or something. I think it's possible in future megaman work to make it happen without too many issues

  • @UltimatTacoman
    @UltimatTacoman วันที่ผ่านมา

    Before I even start the video, I have to mention how excited I have been for this one. MegaMan ZX was the first MegaMan game that I ever finished. Even including battle network, mainly because I got stuck on a elecman when I played as a kid.

  • @angelofdarkness1435
    @angelofdarkness1435 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Ayeee!! a new lore about Megaman popped up always nice to see that these franchises haven't been forgotten yet.

  • @blueace9797
    @blueace9797 3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    I heard a theory somewhere that if you choose Ashe's story, the area where she discovered the broken bridge they speculate Grey died in that battle, while vice versa with Grey story and Ashe died in his version.
    Also happy new years, this is a great video you made!

  • @malachiflournoy9387
    @malachiflournoy9387 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I love how as the centuries pass from the X era to the end of the ZX era, the term Maverick gets more and more watered down

  • @KazeMemaryu
    @KazeMemaryu 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    One small tidbit to throw in here: due to how the destruction of either the Raider Fleet or the Research Lab is described, it's very possible that either Grey or Ashe died in the incident, thus keeping the plot focused on whoever is the protagonist.
    Also, the four Mega Men working for Albert are shown to have red eyes, meaning that while their own motivation plays a part, they're all brainwashed by Albert, which likely allows Thomas to get them into his own ranks in the secret ending. The same is initially shown when Grey first awakens in his story, but his eyes shift from red to green to indicate that his mental conditioning was unsuccessful, which is then confirmed by Pandora.

  • @DieXIII
    @DieXIII 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Greetings from Chile my man! Such a great work you are doing here! We fans appreciate your huge efforts! ❤🎉

  • @codered7070
    @codered7070 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Amazing job man, worth the wait!!

  • @phoenix5029
    @phoenix5029 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    RE: 58:23
    regarding Ashe and Grey's intro stages, while it IS interesting that the interviews say that Vent and Aile existed at the same time... it's worth considering the implications that Grey and Ashe's intro stages hold on a revisit... especially considering that at no point does either game's protagonists interact with the opposite gender in their original games.
    The ZX Trailer led credence to Vent and Aile existing together as they demonstrated the means to Megamerge side by side as a team... which would have been cool to see in-game, honestly. but seeing the crashed airships and the destroyed bridge leaves a strong implication that whoever you're NOT playing as in Advent did not survive their intro stage. This gets reinforced once you reach the final mission and the final boss drops the big reveal on who each Model A Mega Man is.

  • @ericcrapton8275
    @ericcrapton8275 5 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Dude I went a little ham last time commenting on the zero series video. So I will try to shorten it by saying these two and the zero games are probably my favorite mega man games. And I'll just say damn you do these games justice and make an enjoyable video for a fan. Keep up the awesome videos man

  • @KigaiOkasu
    @KigaiOkasu วันที่ผ่านมา

    Hearing your idea of a morality system in the ZX games reminded me of an idea that I had for a third entry where the main character found the lost Model O and was forced to use it. At its base form, he or she could use it just fine, but if they used the OIS function, they would run the risk of going berserk. But incorporating a morality system gave me an idea of how that story could unfold. If you abused the OIS function, you would gain the full power of Model O, but your character would turn evil and destructive. If you used it as little as possible, you would be handicapped later on, but would get the chance to perform a double mega-merge with Model Z and access both biometal's true powers as Model ZO.

  • @bryceknowles1380
    @bryceknowles1380 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    My first intro to the world of Megaman, started ZX with the second game, which is probably my favorite out of the two.

  • @almulla
    @almulla 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I CAN'T WAIT for the Megaman Legends video

  • @strikeforce1500
    @strikeforce1500 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Someone in the Megaman ZX World really said "Hmm, imma make Biometal Model W" and expected nothing to go wrong. But this is the same timeline who gave an actual sociopath the 'Hurr, death is too good for you' bs

    • @TheBlackMastadonte
      @TheBlackMastadonte  3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Yup. The Mega man timeline is an endless cycle of mistakes going into chaos

  • @omegadeltazero
    @omegadeltazero 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Subbed, your videos on mmz and zx are goated

  • @TokenCast
    @TokenCast 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I am legitimately glad that my. What should capcom do with Mega Man as a franchise video recommends this video so much!

  • @FlipTheCatOfficial
    @FlipTheCatOfficial วันที่ผ่านมา

    Wish you the best of luck with your channel after all the Mega Man related lore videos finish!

  • @oceanbacon4522
    @oceanbacon4522 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    1 hour Megaman video plus the loc style is on point, yes gawd!

  • @13thera32
    @13thera32 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Another dope lore video from the one and only !!!

  • @dango2917
    @dango2917 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    ZX is honestly my favorite story wise it was just really something clicked with it for me.

  • @skanker1772
    @skanker1772 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Loved this series sad to see it end but excited to see what you next project is🎉🎉🎉

    • @TheBlackMastadonte
      @TheBlackMastadonte  2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Thanks for the support, fam! I’ve got some fun stuff in the works.

  • @OhSnapItzSam
    @OhSnapItzSam 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    YAAAYYYYYYY Ivebeen patiently awaiting this drop since ive found you :)

    • @TheBlackMastadonte
      @TheBlackMastadonte  3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Hope it was worth the wait

    • @OhSnapItzSam
      @OhSnapItzSam 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @ you Honor me Your Grace. Of course it was that and more 🫡

  • @marcusmayo
    @marcusmayo 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Yes, I was looking forward to this man! This is incredible!

  • @Amuro1X
    @Amuro1X 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Can we talk about how freaking great the ZX and ZXA soundtracks are?

    • @Xeno-The-Wanderer
      @Xeno-The-Wanderer 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      I remember being a wee lad and being enraptured by both game's soundtracks and this video just brought me back to those old days hearing it all over again

  • @President-of-Funny
    @President-of-Funny 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    model z was like: damn, the 4 mega men got hands.
    bro folded instantly after using discount solar flare, he was NOT built for this world.

  • @keemtransfer7073
    @keemtransfer7073 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Once again I am not disappointed got from work saw the video and I Dive right in 😩 really amazing video