The thing about thunderbolt is that other gundam series tell us that there is no right and wrong side, only humans, but they always make the protagonist a good guy and the side is usually fed. But Thunderbolt characters are so messed up and controversial, you can barely tell whos right and wrong. A true 50/50
I mean, the Zeon soldiers depicted here are fighting for a regime that opened up the war with gassing a neutral colony to drop it on Earth. But I suppose its a lot more gray in the very narrow context of this particular series, aside from the whole reason why the Mor's brotherhood exists in the first place lol.
To be fair, the Zeon movement likely would have been far more sympathetic had it not been hijacked by Zabi family shortly after its founding. They have also been the ones who have typically enacted operations and plans that would have, and in some cases did, resulted in lots of people dying. An obvious example was the colony drop on Australia, and Char's attempt to drop Axis on the Earth as a follow-up. More recently, we have Full Frontal's 'plan' to create a federation between the various colonies and halt all resources going to Earth to rebuild it. Their overall goals are noble, but their methods for achieving them have just gotten worse as time went on.
@@Renorick1 i agree, its what most Gundam series kinda failed to depict. Of course they tried and had some success, but in the end the main charavter will always be depicted as the "right" side.
@@Keryaken133 Needs to be a series or two where protagonist intentions end up unambiguously biting people in the ass in some big way. Probably has been, but I haven't seen it.
I love it so much when a Zaku manages to go toe to toe with a Gundam. They're usually depicted like such trash that we tend to forget Zaku is a warmachine also!
Zaku are hands down my fav design, always felt like they were under dogs fighting a boss. A great pilot with a good machine beating a good pilot with a great machine always stands out to me.
Had quest come over for a holiday party I hosted with my wife. Someone brought up Gundam as a topic, and I just burst out laughing thinking of this comment. kudos to you man
I love how Thunderbolt tells that the Gundam is not a symbol of freedom for everyone, but it can be a symbol of death especially for zeon soldiers. At the same time, the series also tells us that not even the zeon are purely evil because they are merely as human as the federation, but with a different point of view and philosophies.
There's this new 3d series coming out called Gundam: Requiem for Vengeance and its trailer REALLY hammers your point home. Check it out if you haven't yet.
Shoutouts to the fact that you put the entire fightscene. Sometimes, these memes feature really cool clips, and you end up staying to watch more of it, but they cut it short.
@@CommunistPhongArtist If you've got good aim? Of course, the Shields also provide great side protection if you have good positioning imo. The only caveat is that the Beam Cannon takes a bit to charge, and the missiles are bit weak
And so, we see yet again, that the spirits of Char Aznable and Amuro Ray never rest; they are forever doomed to strive against one another through all time, via endless hosts and realities. The ending truly has not yet been written.
@@w00fl3ss_ oh, I'm well aware this isn't them. I was commenting on the fact that this is a fight between two kitted-out MS's: one a modified GM/Gundam (can't remember the name) and the other a red/maroon mono-eye (presumably from the colonies). Totally a spiritual clash between successors of Char and Amuro. Even if their actual spirits aren't involved (given what we saw in Gundam UC), it's what some folks call "circumstantially simultaneous" with all other Char/Amuro clashes across the franchise.
Sort of reminds me of the Marvel Comics Secret Wars when Thor and Hyperion had their last stand against the beyonders. Within the grand scheme of the universe, it”s a flash and it’s over.
The thing about Gundam Thunderbolt is that the MC isn't just an asshole, he's an HONEST asshole. He knows what the war is really about and what it - what he - is really doing and what its worth in the end. He takes delight in the lives he takes, but he's also one of the only soldiers who isn't operating on a sunk cost fallacy that necessitates those lives mean less compared to "the greater picture."
Full armor gundam thought he was king. Then psycho woke up fully armed choosing violence. He squared up wanting the smoke and got a w for a few moments before biting the dust themself. This is how I saw it.
Daryl Lorenz and Io Fleming are both human, and human effort is the heart and soul of Gundam. Trying to be Tomino-centric with post-Tomino Gundam ignores how much human emotion, expression, and strength radiates from both Tomino and post-Tomino Gundam.
i mean to be fair to Io. his colony is the battlefield hes currently dueling in. and his dad died infront of him (presumably? all i know his dad shot himself and he got to see it) he also then got to see his colony get fucked over BY zeon. and his other 2 friends are either dead or dying. at this point he just wants zeon to burn probably
still definitely one of the most intense mecha battles I've ever watched, honestly wish their were a game that could capture this level of action within it. Armored core 6 multiplayer was close, but I think it was still missing the edge of your seat type of gameplay.
Considering the comments over this video, I feel it true to believe that most of the fandom have no idea what “anti war” actually entails. And the same can be said for the people who made most gundam series. Most of the gundam stories aren’t actually anti war. This one included but for the same reasons gundam unicorn isn’t anti war. The only stories of gundam that are truely anti war and don’t condemn or defend either side is Gundam: War in the Pocket, Gundam Hathaways Flash, and Turn A Gundam.
Thunderbolt is more or less about simply showing you the objective appearance of the OYW. It's not tryna tell a message, it wants to *show*, so you can see for yourself how it was. And as with all war-related media, some will see this show and think "Hell yeah." and some will see this show and think "Jesus Christ..."
Watching this, one of my first thoughts was seeing the city exposed to space cars floating, glass broken, and I'm fearful to know how many people got sucked into space, or if the station was abandoned
I've gotta be honest, Gundam FA (TB) is legit called "The White Devil" and it fits it like fr it legit fits the nickname and it's truly a badass nickname
No that nickname was given to the Original/Gramps Gundam (Rx-78-2), Not the FA TB Gundam, though yes, FA Gundam is such a badass mobile suit, it was the one that got me into the series
Some people said Thunderbolt are not canon to UC, but for me it is canon, this type of gundam show I always want for. Not those witch for whatever God sake is lol
These two are hands down my favorite "rivals" due tot he fact they managed to keep fighting using opposing suits to the point Io piloted a Zaku while Daryll piloted a Gundam(Fake)
Of course, they do follow a timeline but the stories are completely different, you don't need to watch from the first one (MS Gundam trilogy) in order to understand the spin-offs (OO; Seed; ThunderBolt; etc...). Unless it's a sequel, of course.
Yes, but you’re better off understanding the One Year War lore stuff first as there are numerous references and nods to OYW things and the toggling between the two warring factions can be jarring to the uninitiated. If you’re speed running, you can probably just watch the Orgin series and OG Gundam complation movies first before you watch this. Overall, still worth watching without any knowledge, I’ve had friends watch it with no idea on the lore and enjoyed it.
The infamous MS-06 Zaku II is a "grunt" mobile suit of Zeon (basically space Nazis). Here is the Psycho Zaku, a cracked up version of it which requires a quadriplegic to pilot in exchange of increased input and mobility. Its pilot is a decent person though, and we're all secretly rooting for underdogs taking on a one man army machine.
And? It still had a decent story and some of the scenes actually were good (not better then more of the 2010-17 animations) but it was really cool for a series made in 2002, not to mention 50 episodes, there's gonna be budget cuts man
@hvtrs8%2F-wuw%2Cymuvu%60e%2Ccmm-cjalngl-UAcL8WiT7LWZyRO%3AgjGnkvlS I know that, that dosent mean I wont like the animation and just whole anime of Gundam SEED, stop trying to shit on it because you dont like it
The thing about thunderbolt is that other gundam series tell us that there is no right and wrong side, only humans, but they always make the protagonist a good guy and the side is usually fed. But Thunderbolt characters are so messed up and controversial, you can barely tell whos right and wrong. A true 50/50
I mean, the Zeon soldiers depicted here are fighting for a regime that opened up the war with gassing a neutral colony to drop it on Earth.
But I suppose its a lot more gray in the very narrow context of this particular series, aside from the whole reason why the Mor's brotherhood exists in the first place lol.
To be fair, the Zeon movement likely would have been far more sympathetic had it not been hijacked by Zabi family shortly after its founding.
They have also been the ones who have typically enacted operations and plans that would have, and in some cases did, resulted in lots of people dying. An obvious example was the colony drop on Australia, and Char's attempt to drop Axis on the Earth as a follow-up. More recently, we have Full Frontal's 'plan' to create a federation between the various colonies and halt all resources going to Earth to rebuild it.
Their overall goals are noble, but their methods for achieving them have just gotten worse as time went on.
I like to summarize TB's characters with:
"No Angels. No demons. Just people."
@@Renorick1 i agree, its what most Gundam series kinda failed to depict. Of course they tried and had some success, but in the end the main charavter will always be depicted as the "right" side.
@@Keryaken133
Needs to be a series or two where protagonist intentions end up unambiguously biting people in the ass in some big way.
Probably has been, but I haven't seen it.
I love it so much when a Zaku manages to go toe to toe with a Gundam. They're usually depicted like such trash that we tend to forget Zaku is a warmachine also!
That thing its not a saku .... Boy
For real its looks like a zaku but this are a psycozaku i thing
I mean Daryl was able to do this more because of the reuse psycho device rathen it being installed on a Zaku, but sure
Zaku are hands down my fav design, always felt like they were under dogs fighting a boss.
A great pilot with a good machine beating a good pilot with a great machine always stands out to me.
@@isaiasvazquez5792 Daryl took "Become one with the machine" way too seriously, not as seriously as Rita, Amuro or Char but still pretty seriously
Which is why I love the Zaku II Kai it went toe to toe with the Alex a machine designed for Newtypes like Amuro and damn near won
1:56 Me when someone says they know Gundam:
Lol
Lol same
Had quest come over for a holiday party I hosted with my wife. Someone brought up Gundam as a topic, and I just burst out laughing thinking of this comment. kudos to you man
"GUNDAMU?!"
@@shizzy7480 what were the others' reactions?
I love how Thunderbolt tells that the Gundam is not a symbol of freedom for everyone, but it can be a symbol of death especially for zeon soldiers. At the same time, the series also tells us that not even the zeon are purely evil because they are merely as human as the federation, but with a different point of view and philosophies.
i mean Ral and Dozel show there are good men on Zeon's side
There's this new 3d series coming out called Gundam: Requiem for Vengeance and its trailer REALLY hammers your point home. Check it out if you haven't yet.
i am hyped for that@@panzerjagertigerpelefant
I mean, a Gundam was never a symbol of freedom and justice in the UC timeline anyway…
@@jthunderboldt I KNOW RIGHT? Its probably the best trailer I've watched in a long time. I hope it fkin slaps.
Ive rewatched this show more times than I can count and I still sob my eyes out
Dreaming girl is such a good song
@@tyrian_baal I'm more of a fan of the hay
“Oh God I’m so alone”, is such a banger 😭
One of the best gundam series and so slept on
The manga in the other hand..... Xd not bad but damm
@@foxshoot3138 what's wrong with the manga? is preferable to watch anime or read manga?
@@Asphyx12 not worg just wild xd
@@foxshoot3138wild indeed, the manga so damn good! I’ve never rooted off and on for different sides in any media, ever. Humanity wins out, for me
The manga...ended like you expect on the movie bandit flower. That's it, hopefully the author made it back to health again and continue.@@Asphyx12
Shoutouts to the fact that you put the entire fightscene.
Sometimes, these memes feature really cool clips, and you end up staying to watch more of it, but they cut it short.
This. This is the average 500 Cost space match.
Lol (but is TB FA Gundam really good ?)
@@CommunistPhongArtist
If you've got good aim? Of course, the Shields also provide great side protection if you have good positioning imo. The only caveat is that the Beam Cannon takes a bit to charge, and the missiles are bit weak
@@CommunistPhongArtist it's good but feels outdated. It's mostly a shooter space raid so you can fuck those snipers up in their own game
Untrue, they're actually sortied. If this was a 500 space match they'd still be in queue
@@plague6566so true
i missed when gundam fights were like this, pure action, long lasting battles that will give anyone chills
And so, we see yet again, that the spirits of Char Aznable and Amuro Ray never rest; they are forever doomed to strive against one another through all time, via endless hosts and realities. The ending truly has not yet been written.
@@2233forlolz Who would have thought
@@susushieva.5297 yea I guess I didn't read the whole thing thank you for allowing me to double check what I was typing, thank you.
an interesting foresight, I really never thought of it that way.
Do you realize that Amuro Ray and Char Aznable aren't the ones fighting here right?
thought what you said is still true
@@w00fl3ss_ oh, I'm well aware this isn't them. I was commenting on the fact that this is a fight between two kitted-out MS's: one a modified GM/Gundam (can't remember the name) and the other a red/maroon mono-eye (presumably from the colonies). Totally a spiritual clash between successors of Char and Amuro. Even if their actual spirits aren't involved (given what we saw in Gundam UC), it's what some folks call "circumstantially simultaneous" with all other Char/Amuro clashes across the franchise.
The 1v1 you be having with a random ace hits so hard you won't even be mad when you lose
The final scene was deep. You fought your biggest battle, yet to the universe, you were just a tiny random light that was passing by.
Sort of reminds me of the Marvel Comics Secret Wars when Thor and Hyperion had their last stand against the beyonders. Within the grand scheme of the universe, it”s a flash and it’s over.
I'm a simple man
I see Thunderbolt
I like
I like that they draw the Gundam's face slightly more angular and narrow to make it look villainous.
in eyes of the zeon, the Gundam is the devil.
@@Kira22558 I interpreted it to mean that the pilot is a genuine asshole, knows it, and revels in it.
The thing about Gundam Thunderbolt is that the MC isn't just an asshole, he's an HONEST asshole.
He knows what the war is really about and what it - what he - is really doing and what its worth in the end. He takes delight in the lives he takes, but he's also one of the only soldiers who isn't operating on a sunk cost fallacy that necessitates those lives mean less compared to "the greater picture."
don't know this song mix so well with the animation, as both main characters are fighting to their death.
song is called young girl this remix is speed up or slowed
@@Zolan6157The remix is called Paranoia or something.
I'll always appreciate how the Zaku tend to use more.... Conventional, arms and munitions.
It's a realistic ms tbh.
how it felt to go against Balteus in Ac6 man this is epic.
True
balteus was crazy, my last attempt i kept dodging and while he was charging his sword i hit him with my rail cannon at the last second
Nah it was extremely easy specially with dual laser canons
The proper fight is Rusty
Gundam thunderbolt is so peak. Free-form jazz vs. Blues is the greatest war.
Full armor gundam thought he was king. Then psycho woke up fully armed choosing violence.
He squared up wanting the smoke and got a w for a few moments before biting the dust themself. This is how I saw it.
As a zaku fan zaku Never lost. Zeon loose the psychmuu because psycho Zaku is not present😂
The lightning was assisting both sides, saved Io once in the beginning and saved Daryl at the end of it
Are both of them NewType?
@@kamilazman2943 no
Daryl Lorenz and Io Fleming are both human, and human effort is the heart and soul of Gundam. Trying to be Tomino-centric with post-Tomino Gundam ignores how much human emotion, expression, and strength radiates from both Tomino and post-Tomino Gundam.
One of the Peak gundam series indeed
1:16 I swear those explosions are synced up to the music
The shots at 0:29 are too
1:32 shots and the steps at 1:37 as well
i mean to be fair to Io.
his colony is the battlefield hes currently dueling in.
and his dad died infront of him (presumably? all i know his dad shot himself and he got to see it)
he also then got to see his colony get fucked over BY zeon. and his other 2 friends are either dead or dying.
at this point he just wants zeon to burn probably
the strongest Gundam player vs the Hardened Veteran Zaku pilot
nobody:
not a single soul:
what i do with my gunpla when im alone:
All jokes aside,The animation is god tier the shading is on god rn,theres no cgi too
my current situation playing armored core 6 :
breakcore and gundam mix so well together
1:56 when someone said gundam is transformers
Kiryos, Aryos and Aegis are rapidly aproaching your location
Zeta Gundam :Am I a joke to you?!
@@Silverauren lotos , rezel , delta , hyaku shiki , bound doc , zeta ii going 2000 kilometers per hour to transformer fans
Great to see Thunderbolt get some love! Good work, soldier!
This Gundam series was amazing and I love the jazz in this series and I have experience this in a mobile Gundam game and it’s stressful…
Amazing Skit
Beautiful Animation
Actually Got Me Interested in Gundam
Amazing
Watch iron blooded orphans after this... That was a crazy one...
@@deadlystalker7483my mans true IBO is a badass
So little fiction shows both sides as victim and perpetrator so well.
The Song is Young Girl A.
Its about depression and the artist (most probably) killed themselves a couple of years after making this song.
Good for them 😌
Gbo2 moment.
Teammate: Support me.
You:
still definitely one of the most intense mecha battles I've ever watched, honestly wish their were a game that could capture this level of action within it. Armored core 6 multiplayer was close, but I think it was still missing the edge of your seat type of gameplay.
Bro this is like handler walter vs raven 621
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Oh the nostalgia, it’s too much for me 😭
One of the best fights, hate, vengeance, anger, survival, both sides evil, both sides fought to their last.
Thunderbolt is peak gundam
The violent and inhumane horrors of war have never before looked so good
Considering the comments over this video, I feel it true to believe that most of the fandom have no idea what “anti war” actually entails. And the same can be said for the people who made most gundam series. Most of the gundam stories aren’t actually anti war. This one included but for the same reasons gundam unicorn isn’t anti war. The only stories of gundam that are truely anti war and don’t condemn or defend either side is Gundam: War in the Pocket, Gundam Hathaways Flash, and Turn A Gundam.
aNtI-wAr nYAaNimE
Thunderbolt is more or less about simply showing you the objective appearance of the OYW. It's not tryna tell a message, it wants to *show*, so you can see for yourself how it was. And as with all war-related media, some will see this show and think "Hell yeah." and some will see this show and think "Jesus Christ..."
Man we need season 3 come on sunrise! 🙏
This looks 🔥 🔥 🔥 🔥
We definitely need the 3rd season/ film
I love it when they show reload animation
I wonder how would Daryl and Io react if they saw each other again.
@Blue-Code Bro you should read the manga !!
@@matteocattabriga2775 I didn't even know there was a manga.
@@Blue-Code yeah, the manga is ongoing and has almost reached 23 volumes right now and the two movies covered just the first 7....
@@matteocattabriga2775 Ok, thanks.
Man, I love Thunderbolt, but that jazz music grates me.
I can only listen to a trumpeteer have a seizure for so long.
Do you think you could do the Alex (NT-1) vs Zaku from 0080?
Nice vid too.
THANK YOU.
This fight is like a modern version of Gundam Alex Vs Kampfer, and just like that fight, I love this
More like char's zaku vs RX-78-2.
@@Kira22558 I say Gundam Alex Vs Kampfer because as the fight gets more intense for Alex, they fight from space to the ground in the city
big robot fight, HELL YEAH !!!
new version of AMV, MMV (Memes Music Video)
Don't forget the jazz 🎵
I don’t think bullets from the front won’t affect the full armour gundam since it’s gonna block the bullets with like 4 shields
The jazz that man was listening to must have went crazy
Can we all agree that breakcore is just eletronic action jazz?
So the algorythm decided armored core 6 and this are related. I can’t blame the computer tbh
Watching this, one of my first thoughts was seeing the city exposed to space cars floating, glass broken, and I'm fearful to know how many people got sucked into space, or if the station was abandoned
I’ve never seen thunderbolt (I hear it’s dark and I don’t really like that kind of stuff) but the animation is AMAZING!
I've gotta be honest, Gundam FA (TB) is legit called "The White Devil" and it fits it like fr it legit fits the nickname and it's truly a badass nickname
No that nickname was given to the Original/Gramps Gundam (Rx-78-2), Not the FA TB Gundam, though yes, FA Gundam is such a badass mobile suit, it was the one that got me into the series
My guy is true i legit almost forgot that it was taken from the Daddy himself the RX-78-2 Gundam so yeah gomen
That nickname goes to RX-78-2, the original.
how it feels to play against a quad-Leg with all missiles in their load out in AC6: 1:13 (Balteus reference?!)
Some people said Thunderbolt are not canon to UC, but for me it is canon, this type of gundam show I always want for. Not those witch for whatever God sake is lol
Vibe and a Half
1:39 perfect
たかがメインカメラがやられただけだ！
These two are hands down my favorite "rivals" due tot he fact they managed to keep fighting using opposing suits to the point Io piloted a Zaku while Daryll piloted a Gundam(Fake)
Not a zaku, a zeong
PERFECT TIMING 1:17
bro in a life and death situation 💀
gotta be honest that's partially something I can agree with
Thunderbolt is pretty good.
I forgot how crazy this fight was
do you have the original audio anywhere?
Just search “Full Armor Gundam vs Psycho Zaku” you will NOT be disappointed.
Absolutely incredible fight from an absolutely incredible show.
no. like the music @@LordCrate-du8zm
it's in the video description
I can't find the song, can someone tell me which version it is?
Paranoia
Give us mg perfect Gundam bandai, DAMN YOU
There are MGs of BOTH of these Mobile Suits.
@@LordCrate-du8zmbut the garbage joints i hate them
hd version without the caption?
Every F2P Destiny 2 player's raid
tanks holding off enemy assasin while the team clutches turtle
easy res coming up
you and your friend 1v1 to prove who is the best faction in the UC
Ngl I wish transformers looked this good lol but gundam is just a amazing franchise
....so,when can I get my car back?
imo Ian was good but if he didn't have the gundam here he woulda gotten bodied
HOLY SHIT I FORGOT ABOUT THUNDERBOLT. I read #15 when it came out and now they’re on 22!?!! I’m so mad at myself.
Somehow this same when i play dummy vs noob game
War Thunder Aviation battles
Where can I find this ?
On the Internet.
This is me and my duo in Fort nite be like😂😂
Still dreaming of battle royal game inspired by gundam series.
I lose it I get shit on. I clutch it I get shit for taking too long. There's no winning with bro.
can i watch this series without watching the other series?
Of course, they do follow a timeline but the stories are completely different, you don't need to watch from the first one (MS Gundam trilogy) in order to understand the spin-offs (OO; Seed; ThunderBolt; etc...). Unless it's a sequel, of course.
Yes, but you’re better off understanding the One Year War lore stuff first as there are numerous references and nods to OYW things and the toggling between the two warring factions can be jarring to the uninitiated.
If you’re speed running, you can probably just watch the Orgin series and OG Gundam complation movies first before you watch this.
Overall, still worth watching without any knowledge, I’ve had friends watch it with no idea on the lore and enjoyed it.
what show is this
Gundam thunderbolt
thanks bro@@cogrunner6763
Gundam Thunderbolt. Absolutely recommend.
anime name please, i cant tell if its iron blooded orphans
Moblie Suit Gundam Thunderbolt.
Where jazz?
Nvm i listened closer.
So which guy are we rooting for here
They’re both evil I heard, it’s like Hitler vs Stalin
Both.
which gundam is this
Thunderbolt.
I know literally nothing about Gundam. Who's red cyclops lad, and is it wierd I was rooting for him?
The infamous MS-06 Zaku II is a "grunt" mobile suit of Zeon (basically space Nazis). Here is the Psycho Zaku, a cracked up version of it which requires a quadriplegic to pilot in exchange of increased input and mobility. Its pilot is a decent person though, and we're all secretly rooting for underdogs taking on a one man army machine.
@@metalgearexcelsus So it's a Gundum stormtrooper?
@@MrReich1918 not exactly.
Wich series
Thunderbolt.
I think Rau Le Creuset's battle against Kira would've fit this song better (despite some cutscenes lmao)
Too much of reused animation.
And? It still had a decent story and some of the scenes actually were good (not better then more of the 2010-17 animations) but it was really cool for a series made in 2002, not to mention 50 episodes, there's gonna be budget cuts man
@@ERROR404-uq3wc why are you bringing this up? Just face it: there are fights in Gundam that are much more of an eye-candy than this one.
@hvtrs8%2F-wuw%2Cymuvu%60e%2Ccmm-cjalngl-UAcL8WiT7LWZyRO%3AgjGnkvlS Nah, I wont
@hvtrs8%2F-wuw%2Cymuvu%60e%2Ccmm-cjalngl-UAcL8WiT7LWZyRO%3AgjGnkvlS I know that, that dosent mean I wont like the animation and just whole anime of Gundam SEED, stop trying to shit on it because you dont like it
In gundam evo everyone leave the noob die alone u_u