My strength and conditioning coach taught me to never bend at the elbows when doing a clean. Just shrug and catch it in the front squat. Executed properly the momentum of the weight (jump and shrug) gets it high enough for you to squat under. Something like that. So why is Klokov recommending to bend at the elbows? Doesn't that rely too much on arm as opposed to fully body strength?
DontNeedToKnow84 No shrugging is wrong. You need to bend the elbows let the weight travel up without using a shrug, because clean is not a movement involving arm strength. With light weight you can pull from arms using a shrug but when the weight gets really heavy you won't be able to shrug that :)
DontNeedToKnow84 There are different schools/methods in weightlifting when it comes to early pulling with the arms. Some teach it, some avoid it, and some teaches using the lats which can slightly bend the elbows indirectly but not actively.
+DontNeedToKnow84 super late to the party, but here goes: it's just a single drill here, where the aim is to get correct triple extension mechanics (bar hits body while both are rising, body takes bar along with it). the bent arms keep the bar close as it rises. in the full lift done heavy enough, the arms are what pull you under the bar so you can catch it (little to no shrug to actively lift the bar, it's the triple extension that propels the barbell upwards), and the torso is also thrown backwards out of the way to further let the bar travel up and not out (whereas here he stays over it because he's not using anything remotely heavy and is just concentrating on showing proper leg and hip mechanics.
Joshua Smith Am glad someone knows what there talking about! Too many people get this confused with bending there arms too early in the pull with this new found hip clean silliness. The bend in the arms on the final pull also helps initiate pulling under the bar
@n00bie ok if that's the point then I understand, not sure if I agree though. If you pull it higher, just receive it higher and ride it down, the key is not diving all the way to the bottom and wait for the bar to crash you. simillar things happen in different styles of squat jerk, where Lu Xiaojun would drive the bar to the same height no matter the weight, but Shi Zhiyong will drive the bar to maximum height and support it, so power jerk if it's light, and full squat jerk if it's heavy. Both styles have their pros and cons, but I think for beginners, it's easier to adjust receiving position than to adjust force generated.
Chinese and Bulgarian lifters have weak legs and only Russian lifters have strong legs? I think Lu Xiaojun would disagree. Pound for pound they are currently the strongest lifters. Russians had their day. Dont be hatin.
Well, don't think anyone is surprised that a russian is thinking that russians (in this case lifters) are the best (in this case have the strongest legs). But hey, anyone is entitled to his opinion. Look at all time won medals and you'll see how strong their legs are.
+AJ GOAT it's just one drill to work on specific things, so other things are not focused on here, specifically. he teaches a higher pull on his snatch drill (as seen on the snatch pull video on this same channel), but the arm focus is on keeping the bar close rather than lifting it, which is the legs' job, and will happen correctly if the drill is correctly executed (bring the bar to the body rather than bringing the hips to the bar/humping the bar; it's better specified in the snatch pull video, which is from the same seminar, he doesn't say it here because he'd already said it before). bent arms are to be able to keep the bar close on this drill as it rises, as with straight arms he finds that it tends to go forwards away from the body.
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I love his examples of bad lifts. Watching him animate things is hilarious. I love klokov.
he is to be commended for learning english...a very good ambassador for weightlifting!!
His English is better than my Russian. lol
First time I've heard him speak english. Good on him!
Thanks for uploading this video series. Priceless! Klokov and his teaching method is the best.
he looks like he was built in a lab lol
Man, he's getting really good at English.
Valuable info. Thanks for the post.
What I would give for 3 months of Training from Klokov. Specifically mastering the power clean and press.
Dudes a good teacher.
Priceless!
thanks for the video :)
helps me alot
No problem! :-)
my goodness he is so competent
Super important stuff
I'd love Klokov to be my coach. Learn from the master.
klokov is the man
In other words don't smash the bar in to the hips like a tool
My strength and conditioning coach taught me to never bend at the elbows when doing a clean. Just shrug and catch it in the front squat. Executed properly the momentum of the weight (jump and shrug) gets it high enough for you to squat under. Something like that. So why is Klokov recommending to bend at the elbows? Doesn't that rely too much on arm as opposed to fully body strength?
DontNeedToKnow84 No shrugging is wrong. You need to bend the elbows let the weight travel up without using a shrug, because clean is not a movement involving arm strength. With light weight you can pull from arms using a shrug but when the weight gets really heavy you won't be able to shrug that :)
DontNeedToKnow84 There are different schools/methods in weightlifting when it comes to early pulling with the arms. Some teach it, some avoid it, and some teaches using the lats which can slightly bend the elbows indirectly but not actively.
DontNeedToKnow84 I have been struggling with the movement and timing- your comment is really helpful. Thanks
+DontNeedToKnow84 super late to the party, but here goes: it's just a single drill here, where the aim is to get correct triple extension mechanics (bar hits body while both are rising, body takes bar along with it). the bent arms keep the bar close as it rises. in the full lift done heavy enough, the arms are what pull you under the bar so you can catch it (little to no shrug to actively lift the bar, it's the triple extension that propels the barbell upwards), and the torso is also thrown backwards out of the way to further let the bar travel up and not out (whereas here he stays over it because he's not using anything remotely heavy and is just concentrating on showing proper leg and hip mechanics.
Joshua Smith Am glad someone knows what there talking about!
Too many people get this confused with bending there arms too early in the pull with this new found hip clean silliness.
The bend in the arms on the final pull also helps initiate pulling under the bar
this is awesome, thanks a lot!
Chinese weightlifters have the weakest legs lol klokov is trippin
Chinese lifters aren't known for their strength genetics. they rely more on technique than brute force.
There's not much technique going into a squat and you see Chinese outsquat everyone all the time. How stupid and sheep can you be LOL
"Chinese weightlifters have STRONGEST legs" ;)
Said like someone who never squatted more than air in their lives
I thought he was saying they have the strongest legs
Does he teach the extension pretty low on the leg for cleans? It looks like he was teaching to "hit" almost right above the knee.
Thanks for the video. Are there any other videos from this seminar or just those five?
Hi George, yes these are the only videos that i recorded from that perticular seminar.
/Jakob
just casually insulting Chinese and Bulgarian lifters: they have weak legs lmao
@n00bie ok if that's the point then I understand, not sure if I agree though. If you pull it higher, just receive it higher and ride it down, the key is not diving all the way to the bottom and wait for the bar to crash you. simillar things happen in different styles of squat jerk, where Lu Xiaojun would drive the bar to the same height no matter the weight, but Shi Zhiyong will drive the bar to maximum height and support it, so power jerk if it's light, and full squat jerk if it's heavy. Both styles have their pros and cons, but I think for beginners, it's easier to adjust receiving position than to adjust force generated.
Is he just trolling? Chinese definitely dont have weal legs.
this is great
Question... Why did he slam the barbell to his thighs as contact instead of the other way around?
Great!!
At 2:28 is Annie Thorisdottir talking?
did he say Chinese lifters have weak legs?
Yes, he did. Idk, why he said that. Chinese are super strong squatters.
@@lol6434 But their technique is different, they use a lot more of hips than russians and americans
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Explain
He makes the bar and weight look tiny as shit 😂
Did he say 50kgs for girls and 40 for men?
"for girls 50 kilos, for boys 40 kilos" lol
he said 30 not 50
in russia you weight train , weight train you
The contact point is too low
Chinese and Bulgarian lifters have weak legs and only Russian lifters have strong legs? I think Lu Xiaojun would disagree. Pound for pound they are currently the strongest lifters. Russians had their day. Dont be hatin.
Well, i suppose Klokov is either exagerating to make a point, or its only his personal biased opinion.
Me either. Don't agree with Klokov at all. I don't think Russian could win the 56 up to 77kg category yet
I think he said big legs, not weak legs.
to be honest, his English is still hard to understand with certain words. lol!
Well, don't think anyone is surprised that a russian is thinking that russians (in this case lifters) are the best (in this case have the strongest legs). But hey, anyone is entitled to his opinion. Look at all time won medals and you'll see how strong their legs are.
Why bent arms? And does he only pull at hip height? I was taught by the Poles to pull to chest height.
+AJ GOAT it's just one drill to work on specific things, so other things are not focused on here, specifically. he teaches a higher pull on his snatch drill (as seen on the snatch pull video on this same channel), but the arm focus is on keeping the bar close rather than lifting it, which is the legs' job, and will happen correctly if the drill is correctly executed (bring the bar to the body rather than bringing the hips to the bar/humping the bar; it's better specified in the snatch pull video, which is from the same seminar, he doesn't say it here because he'd already said it before). bent arms are to be able to keep the bar close on this drill as it rises, as with straight arms he finds that it tends to go forwards away from the body.
lmao chinese and bulgarians "weak legs". Basically all the Chinese lifters have the strongest legs in their respective weight classes.
Fascinating insight on why team. china have giant quads lol