Awesome video. Not unethical in my opinion. What's unethical is that Toyota would force a paying customer to fork over even more money by requiring that they buy an entire TRD Pro vehicle just to get the stupid wheels. People should be able to do as they please with their car and their money. The only thing missing from this video is a better wide angle shot to see what those tires look like. I am going to throw these on my 2019 4Runner TRD Pro and want as many previews as I can get. Thank you!
This helped a lot! I just recently purchased a 2018 TRD Off Road Tacoma and I wanted to put 275/75/16 ko2's on the stock rim. However now I Believe that is too wide and I think I'm going to stick with 265/75/16. Also just found your channel and subscribed, congrats on 500 subs!
Hey thanks brotha, yeah the 275/75/16 will be a little too big. The height of this 17 inch wheel and tire set up is roughly 32.16 inches. On the 265/75/16 you'll be just fine, it measure about half an inch smaller than the 17 inch set up, measuring in at roughly 31.65 inches. In the long run though, whenever you upgrade suspension, a 33" tire on a 16 inch wheel looks so much better to me; that is of course relative. Hope this helps. I have a vid coming this Wednesday on the biggest 16 inch wheel and tire set up for the stock Tacoma.
Yep, once I do a small lift I plan on staying with a 16 inch rim because I love the look of bigger tires on a 16 inch rim. Plus even more sidewall coverage
@@zachariah2089 I own a Stock 2019 TRD Off Road Tacoma and put 265/75/16 KO2's on it about a year ago. I have done some light to moderate off-roading with it and haven't experienced any issues. I just recently purchased some Fuel BLITZ 16X8 Wheels that I am going to have installed in a couple of weeks. I also wanted to stick with a 16 inch wheel as I want more sidewall to help out while off -roading and plowing through snow with those KO2's. Even after I do a 3in F 2in R lift I am sticking with 16's but will try to go as close to a 33 inch tire as possible without having to do a Cab Mount Chop.
Ok good to know thanks! Yea eventually when I lift mine I plan on getting as close as I can to a 33 inch tire on a 16 inch rim I'm pretty confident in my welding skills but still don’t wanna have to do the chop lol
Yeah, it's silly that the stealerships lock down the TRD stuff. I actually own a 2020 TRD Pro 4Runner (bought it new, FROM this dealer) and had a heck of a time getting the parts to add a couple more cross bars to the stock TRD Pro roof rack. When I was talking to the parts guy my truck was parked right outside his window and yet it was still like asking for whale blubber at a PETA convention. I have no idea why they're so spooky with this stuff.
The ko2s are terrible on wet pavement! I had them and while coming to stop they slid twice on me on two different occasions, I’m thankful no one was in front of me when this happened I was thinking I may have had a bad set but in other reviews I’ve heard the same
Hi. Would I get rubbing in the front on a 2016 SR5 4runner with a 1" level kit with 275/70/17 BFG KO2 on the TRD Pro wheel(the one in your video)? Thank you.
275 70r 17 = 275 millimeters wide or 10.38 inches wide. The side wall of the tire is 70% of the with of the tire or 192.5 millimeters. That is 7.58 inches. Multiply 7.58 by 2 and ad 17 inches for the rim and you get 32 10.5 17 tire in Merica.
Quick question hopefully you see it ..I bought a 21 sr5 4Runner would 265/70/17 wild peaks on the stock rims look to small on the runner or should I go with 275/70/17 ?and if I do do I need a 2” lift .. I know you got these questions already bro but I’m slow lol thanks bro good vid
I have a 2020 limited 4R. Every tire place here told me that the 275/70/17 won’t fit because the tires will rub. You’re confirming that in this video and say the rubbing is light rubbing. Any significant damage to the tires or the car body?
Great video. Just bought a 2021 Tacoma trd off road but 2wd. It’s my daily driver maybe 15% light off road hence the 2wd. Hate the stock tire and rims. I wanna keep it stock, but I want aftermarket wheels and tires. Was thinking of the Toyo OC 3s AT tires love the tread design. What wheel set up should I get?. 17/8 17/9 or a 16 inch wheel, and an off set of 0 to no more than -6. Don’t want positive offset since stock is like + 25. Tire size either 265/70/17 or 265 /75/16. I don’t mind going with the 16 inch provided I find a nice wheel. However there are more options for wheels in 17 inch seems like. I just want a beefier stance without any mods or cutting or re shaping. No lifts or spacers, Can you please provide a recommendation for me? Thank you.!!!
Hey man, thanks for checking out the channel. I have a complete guide to the biggest wheels and tires for your stock 4runner or Tacoma that I'll be posting tomorrow afternoon. This video will answer all of your questions. Cheers, and congrats on the new rig!
Awesome videos! Would you happen to know about a stock ‘13 Avalanche or anyone with one? I’d love to do a lift but not in the near future at all. I will definitely let my inlaws know about this though for their 4Runner!
Love your channel. Just picked up a 2022 trd SPORT. New trim model... comes on 245/60/20 and wanting to move down the the TRD 17's and toyo at3 tires. Won't be doing any off roading. Just want to make it look like a cooler mom car while hauling my kids around. Can't find any info on the vehicle yet. Any pointers on where to do some research?
Just bought a 2023 4runner Sr5. It came with trd pro wheels and trd skid plate. from the factory. It even has them listed on the window sticker. Not sure why…but it did. Not uncommon here in Denver actually. I see a lot come this way. Nothing to do with ethics. It is just a wheel. The car title says it all…
You could probably run a 275/75/16. With this you'll be only 1/10 of an inch wider than the 275/70/17 I reference in this video. So the end result would probably be a bit more rubbing, however the 16 inch wheel will set you up for more sidewall if you choose to upgrade suspension and tires down the road. Keep in mind that you'll still need some offset on the wheel you go with.
Definitely not unethical...what’s unethical is the dealerships trying to horde those wheels. I think Toyota would actually get pretty pissed if they found out about that because they would be loosing money from a whole aftermarket / modding community.
Find a 4runner that doesn’t have TRD wheels and I’ll find you one. Hit me up- I don’t need like money or anything, I just do work for dealerships and they’re all over limited and sr5’s. Happy to help out.
Thanks for the video, good info. I ordered a set of these black TRD pro wheels 17” exactly what you described and they should be arriving tomorrow. Now I’m undecided on which all-terrain tires to run on these wheels. I’m looking at both the k02’s and the Falken wild peaks. I was originally set on k02’s, but I constantly hear about the balancing issues people have to deal with, and personally I don’t want to deal with going back and forth for rebalancing. Any suggestions? Thanks By the way, I have a 2021 TRD off road premium 4 runner.
Very nice, congrats on the wheels and the rig. I personally really like the K02, the AT3's are comparable, but in my opinion the K02 lasts longer and has better road manners. I've owned 3 sets of K02's, never had any balancing issues, even mounted on various vehicles and wheels. Either one is a great choice. Cheers!
Thanks for the info! Subscribed!! Would like your thoughts/comments. I have a '21 Tacoma OR and I'm looking at adding the TRD Pro wheels. (Love that "near stock" look of the Pro's w/ BFG's) I've read thru Tacoma World and found a thread regarding 2 different Pro wheels - a Tacoma Pro wheel @ 7" and a 4Runner Pro wheel @ 7.5"; difference/recommendation? After watching your information and others, (Outside Mag had an article about "Killin the Tacoma) I'm looking for an "Overland" "broad/wide stance" look but I really don't want to change up performance much. (significant loss of power with larger wheel/tire set-up, mileage, etc.) (I miss my '13 SR5 engine! (less shifting at 75mph)) So here's my question: Best look w/o sacrificing too much performance and NOT dumping a bunch of $$ into the truck to make the wheels/tires work? (minimal off-roading) OK, GO! And Thanks!!!
Hey thanks man, much appreciated! Regarding the style of Pro wheel I like the 4Runner Pro (the same as this video), mainly because you get a 7.5" width, and they look great as well. The tire size mentioned in this video looks great on a stock Taco and will still fit in the spare tire location. As for performance, this will be very close if not exactly the same as stock. Hope this helps, if you want a more technical look at wheel and tire set ups check out this part 2 video to this one. th-cam.com/video/PqhC34QQCBM/w-d-xo.html
I think it’s more unethical that the dealership thinks they have the right to tell you what you can spend your money on based on the trim level you have.
A question: is the TRD wheel the same as the TRD-Pro? My local dealer has TRD wheels on sale at the moment... they look like TRD-Pro but I can't tell. Thanks for your video(s)!!
I have a 2016 4Runner Limited went with a Cooper Discover AT3 275/55/R20. Is there anything I need to do to suspension. I have been getting some vibration at 60-70mph. I switched the wheels to the rear. It seems to go away, but some time the tires wheel vibrated again. Any suggestions
Interesting, I was on BFG’s website, punched in my vehicle and when I checked the KO2, it said that it wouldn’t fit my stock 21 4Runner venture, even though they make it in my size.
Bear in mind that the tire manufacturers and tire stores are extremely conservative with the sizing they say will work. Remember that this tire size and rim combo I've given (275/70/r17) is the absolute biggest tire you can run on a 4Runner or Tacoma and light rubbing may happen at full crank. Hope this helps.
I have a set of wheels that are 17×8.5 with -10mm offset paired with a set of 265/70r17 KO2 tires. These are going on my 2022 4runner trd OR. Should I expect any rubbing? If so do I need to worry about harming anything on the truck?
Thank you for the info. Looking for advice as I have read many different things. I just bought a 2019 4Runner TRD pro and looking to enhance the look. Will a 275 width cause any rubbing issues with the K02 tire? It is the stock suspension/ all stock vehicle
I just ordered a 21 Tacoma TRD Sport. I REALLY like this wheel and tire combo. However I don't plan to lift or level my truck or do any "heavy off roading". My concern is that if there's rubbing while turning at full angle, than there would be some terrible clipping while turning if my shock is under medium/light compression right? Example... going over over uneven terrain as simple as parking in someone's yard. Would it be logical to try and get a slightly smaller tire for the rim? Like a 265/65? ( I don't know if that exsists, but you get my point ).
Logical, yes! With that said, the most logical thing to do is just keep the truck stock. The engineers at Toyota put a lot of R&D into how these trucks should be built. Going off what your plans are for the truck I'd say you'll be good to go with 275/70/17. I know because I've done it on both my Runner and Taco, and probably on harder terrain than the majority of people will ever see. If you're worried, the 265/65 would certainly be a good conservative medium. Hope this helps, lol!
Hello. I have a 2021 Tacoma TRD Sport completely stock and I've been looking at the exact same wheel and tire combo. Where I live, you can get ticketed for. It having mudflaps on trucks and SUVs, so I don't have the option of removing them. Do you think this combination would rub the factory mudflaps?
You mentioned that you can run a 16 inch wheel on a 5th gen 4Runner? I was told they are too small and rub the calipers in front. Can you please verify . Thanks
This is something I should have clarified a little better in the video. I've seen guys running 16 inch wheels on 5th get runners, however you really need to be attentive to offset and backspacing. For most people, the 17 inch wheel is the best option, It also will provide the biggest tire compared to the 16 tire option for stock 4Runners. For this reason I've trimmed the part about 16 inch wheels out of the video. Thanks for the question though. Cheers!
@@squaredawayeveryday Hey No worries I love the channel and I really like your set up on the Tacoma. I would love to see the black rhinos on the 4Runner because that’s what I want to do to mine. I wasn’t sure if the 16 inch wheel would bolt on or not because some people say they won’t. Keep up the good content 👍
Great video! Your final comment when you said your Tacoma is tricked out but you now have a little rubbing? Not sure what you meant by that? It seemed to negate everything you talked about. I’m probably wrong but just not sure. Thanks.
Thanks man. I could see how maybe that would be confusing. When I ran this same set up on both my Tacoma and on my 4Runner you will certainly have some lite rubbing, nothing crazy, and if it bothers you just trim the plastic wheel well a bit. Since those days, I've upgraded my suspension, UCAs, wheels, and tires on the Tacoma; and I have no rubbing.
Appreciate your quick reply. I was hoping I heard it wrong but it’s encouraging to know it’s not a major issue. I’ve seen other vids where they put 33’s with no rub but he didn’t talk about off road driving. I’m hoping to get the look of filling the well out without a lift. Your video was very well explained and I do appreciate you knowledge!
@@boblafountaine9560 A 275/70/17 (32.16" tire) will fill out the wheel well very nicely in either the Tacoma or 4Runner. Anyone who says they can fit 33's on a stock rig with no rubbing is lying; I can assure you of this. Yes, you will still have minimal rubbing with the 275/70/17 but as mentioned before, this is a cosmetic rub that could be fixed with a Dremel if you so choose. Good luck!
@@squaredawayeveryday Agreed. Everyone is insanely concerned with a slight rub, but if you watch any youtube video of folks flexing their rigs hard on the trails, even $80K jeeps and such rub. You can hear the tire's lugs thumping the cabs or fenders. I think if you are terrified of a LITTLE rubbing, then stay stock or stay off the trails.
The bad part is the gearing is already too damn tall and a larger diameter tire just makes that problem worse. Also, the speedometer will be off if not calibrated afterward as well including your odometer.
Is that Pro sema wheel different from the TRD wheel on other trims (say like the 2021 Venture)? Also I am not the huge lift guy, but I like a lift so I may try to replicate TRD pro Height and run 275's. Only thing I hear is they are heavier, and only come in a LT. Now I see I can get 275/70/17 and have to go with LT but it's a C load which if im correct is a 6 ply. My question is, Does going with LT change the ride? Should I try to stick with P-metric or Standard load? I love 275's cause alternative is 285 and all the rubbing issues and a higher lift. I wonder if I'm making too much outta "LT", although it is my daily driver and not a huge amount of off road. Sorry for the life story.
A light truck tire will compliment your truck nicely. Certainly not as shock absorbing as a P or S rated tire, although you can slightly change tire pressure to offset that.
So I have a stock 2018 Tacoma and want to get some 17" x 8.5" wide wheels with 285x70R17. Will this fit or would it rub ? Again completely stock no lift or spacers.
Unfortunately no, this would not be a functional fit, a 285 on a stock runner or taco is just too big. This will initially fit, however when you find yourself hitting bumps and turning at the same time you'll run into more serious problems.
Newbie here to tires and lifts/levels. Great video but I’m still slightly confused on rubbing. Just bought a 2021 4runner TRD off-road premium KDSS with upgraded TRD pro wheels as shown in your video. What will 275 tires rub on? Just the front tires rub? Will I need to remove mud flaps? Cuz I don’t! Later on I would want to run bilsteins 5100 shocks all around with the stock springs. Just to level. Around 1.5 to 2” in front and nothing in rear. Any thought on that level set up anyone??? Will probably never go off-road tbh🤔 thanks
I currently drive a stock 2021 4Runner SR5 Premium. I'm thinking about purchasing an aftermarket Method Racing Wheel that's 17" x 8.5" with a 0mm offset. I also plan on getting Toyo tires 265/70R/17 What do you think about it?
Great video well explained. I'm actually stuck on tire size, i did a 3" lift in the front and 2" in the back and really want to go with BF ko2 at 285s with the extact same trd rim. But not sure if it will rub.
275/70/17 on a TRD Pro SEMA wheel will have lite rubbing. I have a new video about to drop this afternoon that encompasses everything you need to know about wheels and tires on your stock rig.
I have a stock 2019 Tacoma SR it came with 245/60/16s looked like it slipped leg day lol I put 285/70/17s on it very little rub at full turn only in Left reverse none on right full chalk Truck looks like a mean lean machine . Someday I hope to get a small lift or just go for a beefier or a heavier duty suspension. I plan on getting a alu cab canopy camper next year
Hey Ken, I'm sure your truck looks great, and I'm stoked for you to get into the off-roading/overlanding thing; however, I would highly caution against doing either until you down size your tires or upgrade your suspension. Even though it doesn't seem like it, your problems will start to surface when you begin to turn and hit bumps at the same time. Here's a good way to check if your tolerances before hitting the trail, take off a coil over, fully compress the suspension, and then crank all the way left and right. I can almost promise you that you'll be rubbing your UCA's, frame, or severely rubbing the wheel well. Having run the smaller 275/70/17 set up and tested this myself (both vehicles having excellent alignment) I can assure you this is the biggest you can go on both a 4Runner and Tacoma. I hope you don't take this as patronizing or talking down to you, I'm just trying to help you out along with the rest of the Tacoma/4Runner community. Hope this helps, cheers!
@@squaredawayeverydaynone taken. I'm just a newbie. Didn't even know what overlanding was until I got my Tacoma and now it's all I can think about LoL. I haven't been hard core offroding yet LoL Did a little bit Sometime this next spring I'm going to beaf up the suspension to handle the canopy camper plus ad air bags . On the front im just going with a full brush guard nothing extremely heavy don't want to cut up my plastic . But I want to keep it from getting too scratched up
Can anyone help, I have 2011 4x4 Tacoma; I installed rims from Discount Tires and since then I had to replace the front wheel bearing and U-Joints and now a have damaged bearing on the rear. any recommendations on the rims I can install; currently using 17 rims. Thanks (Discount later told me that I was given the wrong nuts and were replaced but damaged done)
Just tried to see on a website if the 17"x7", 4mm off-set TRD Pro 4Runners would fit on my 2020 Tacoma Off-road. And the result says "Does not fit". Is this true?
It fit on my 2017 Tacoma Off-Road, there's a photo of it with those wheels in the video. If the wheels you're looking at are legit Toyota TRD Pro SEMA wheels, they'll fit your 3rd gen.
I feel like the Tacoma looks weird with a 7 inch width wheel I just got a Tacoma and I want a 17x8 inch wheel prob 280 75 17 but that’s prob impossible
I recently bought rims for my stock 2012 Tacoma. They’re 17x9 with a 2mm offset. What’s the best and widest tire that you would recommend I get. I was thinking 285 70 r17?
I'm not a huge fan of leveling kits for off-road use, but in a lite capacity it should be fine; I used to do it back in the day. Tire wise, you'll be good to go.
Would I be able to do 265/70/17 or 265/75/7 on stock TRD Sport 2WD on 3rd Gen. Just for some mild trail and road use. Just love the aggressive look of the BFG's. Thanks
Yeah you could run a 265/70/17, on a similar wheel, if anything you could pick a wheel with more negative offset. Although I wouldn't run a 265/75/17, that'd be too tight on a stock rig.
This should work just fine, honestly the 8.5 inches of rim width is a little better fit than a 275 on a 7 inch wide wheel. Do be aware though, you may have a bit more rubbing on the inner shoulders with that increased offset; which means you may or may not need some lite dremel work.
How are the Toyos treating you? After literally hundreds of thousands of miles on many sets of BFG AT's, I'm done with them. For the money they demand, they suck. Out of round issues, hard ride from half-life till 50k. They're just way over rated compared to today's modern tire options. Considering the Toyo Open Ctry AT3 for my new '21 TRD OR. It's at the top of my list or the Cooper Disco AT3's. I've had phenomenal results on many sets of those but like the look of the Toyo tread.
I wonder how much extra money Toyota dealership had and will keep losing if they keep denying people buying TRD PRO wheels lol. It is not smart to restrict the sales of TRD PRO wheels. They'll lose money..
TRD PRO wheel is 4mm offset. NEGATIVE 4mm offset meaning it is push out streetward. The stock SR5 5th gen wheels are positive 15mm offset with more backspace.
I appreciate the comment, however the offset is a positive 4 on the SEMA wheels. You can reference that here on Toyota's parts page parts.toyota.com/p/Toyota_2018_4Runner/TRD-17-In-Matte-Black---Alloy-Wheel/69529063/PTR2035110BK.html I did however jumble my words when talking about what that offset means. Check out my second video on this topic for clarification.
@@squaredawayeveryday oh ok. Sorry my error. All I know is SR5 wheels are 15mm positive, and TRD PRO wheels are 4mm, I wasn't sure if it was positive or negative.
Squared Away Everyday Ah, you’re right. I should google stuff before making statements on line from word of mouth knowledge. I do know the mat gray ones look awesome on my 2020 Tacoma OR. I’m running Ko2 265/70/17 on stock suspension with no rubbing issues.
Toyota sucks that they make it difficult to buy TRD parts! Well, I completely turned my TRD Sport 4X4 into a highly modified TRD PRO with all OEM Pro Parts. Completely cloned. It can be done, there are Online Toyota Dealers that never asked any questions and looked the other way. Why not, they are charging an arm and a leg for everything. Close to $ 800 for the Pro Grill, $ 500 plus for the Rigid Industries Fog Lights, $680 Embroidered TRD PRO Headrests, all the correct name plates and badging, black hood decal, and so on. I added the Fox 2.5 Reservoir DSC 3” lift shocks all 4 corners, Nitto Terra Grapplers 285X70 17’s, Icon Delta Joint Upper Control Arms, Katskin black leather interior, etc.
Agreed, the parts should be available to people who are willing to pay the premium for the TRD goods. Sounds like you've found a way around most of the hurdles though, I'm sure your rig looks fantastic and functions great! Thanks for checking out the vid. Cheers!
The pretty f*ckin unethical part gave me a good laugh. 😂
Awesome video. Not unethical in my opinion. What's unethical is that Toyota would force a paying customer to fork over even more money by requiring that they buy an entire TRD Pro vehicle just to get the stupid wheels. People should be able to do as they please with their car and their money. The only thing missing from this video is a better wide angle shot to see what those tires look like. I am going to throw these on my 2019 4Runner TRD Pro and want as many previews as I can get. Thank you!
This helped a lot! I just recently purchased a 2018 TRD Off Road Tacoma and I wanted to put 275/75/16 ko2's on the stock rim. However now I Believe that is too wide and I think I'm going to stick with 265/75/16. Also just found your channel and subscribed, congrats on 500 subs!
Hey thanks brotha, yeah the 275/75/16 will be a little too big. The height of this 17 inch wheel and tire set up is roughly 32.16 inches. On the 265/75/16 you'll be just fine, it measure about half an inch smaller than the 17 inch set up, measuring in at roughly 31.65 inches. In the long run though, whenever you upgrade suspension, a 33" tire on a 16 inch wheel looks so much better to me; that is of course relative. Hope this helps. I have a vid coming this Wednesday on the biggest 16 inch wheel and tire set up for the stock Tacoma.
Yep, once I do a small lift I plan on staying with a 16 inch rim because I love the look of bigger tires on a 16 inch rim. Plus even more sidewall coverage
@@zachariah2089 I own a Stock 2019 TRD Off Road Tacoma and put 265/75/16 KO2's on it about a year ago. I have done some light to moderate off-roading with it and haven't experienced any issues. I just recently purchased some Fuel BLITZ 16X8 Wheels that I am going to have installed in a couple of weeks. I also wanted to stick with a 16 inch wheel as I want more sidewall to help out while off -roading and plowing through snow with those KO2's. Even after I do a 3in F 2in R lift I am sticking with 16's but will try to go as close to a 33 inch tire as possible without having to do a Cab Mount Chop.
Ok good to know thanks!
Yea eventually when I lift mine I plan on getting as close as I can to a 33 inch tire on a 16 inch rim
I'm pretty confident in my welding skills but still don’t wanna have to do the chop lol
I have these wheels on my not lifted 2nd gen taco. It looks awesome. Pair it with falken wildpeak 265 70 17 tires.
"Pretty F'n unethical" absolutely love it. I get what you're saying but it's not like we're stealing. Just trying to get our vehicles upgraded.
Great video. Thanks for the intel, and by the way helping people is always ethical!
Thanks man
“It’s called whatever you want I don’t really care” 😂
Yeah, it's silly that the stealerships lock down the TRD stuff. I actually own a 2020 TRD Pro 4Runner (bought it new, FROM this dealer) and had a heck of a time getting the parts to add a couple more cross bars to the stock TRD Pro roof rack. When I was talking to the parts guy my truck was parked right outside his window and yet it was still like asking for whale blubber at a PETA convention. I have no idea why they're so spooky with this stuff.
Lol, no kidding. Congrats on the Runner!
The ko2s are terrible on wet pavement! I had them and while coming to stop they slid twice on me on two different occasions, I’m thankful no one was in front of me when this happened I was thinking I may have had a bad set but in other reviews I’ve heard the same
I've had three sets to this point. Traction on wet pavement has never been a problem; just my experience.
I’m my experience it depends on the road surface, my KO2 set would spin and skid on poor road surfaces for sure
Hi. Would I get rubbing in the front on a 2016 SR5 4runner with a 1" level kit with 275/70/17 BFG KO2 on the TRD Pro wheel(the one in your video)? Thank you.
Love your content. Just subscribed!!
Welcome aboard! Thanks man!
275 70r 17 = 275 millimeters wide or 10.38 inches wide. The side wall of the tire is 70% of the with of the tire or 192.5 millimeters. That is 7.58 inches. Multiply 7.58 by 2 and ad 17 inches for the rim and you get 32 10.5 17 tire in Merica.
Nice! I'm sure it was just a typo, but, *10.83" wide just to clarify to everyone.
I bought my TRD wheels from the Toyota dealer and I have a stock sr5 4wd Tacoma.
255/ 80 / r17 33.1 inch tire
That wheel is 7.5" wide. Also my TRD off road came with Pro wheels from the factory
I think that the trd wheels come on the 4Runner venture edition as well, but I’m not sure if they are just trd or trd pro
Quick question hopefully you see it ..I bought a 21 sr5 4Runner would 265/70/17 wild peaks on the stock rims look to small on the runner or should I go with 275/70/17 ?and if I do do I need a 2” lift .. I know you got these questions already bro but I’m slow lol thanks bro good vid
You can just order the wheels online without a Vin. I wouldn't bother with a dealer
I'm planning to go to the 265/70-17 on my 2018 limited. There's way more tire selection than the stock 245/60-20
The 20's on the limited was a horrible call from Toyota.
I have a 2020 limited 4R. Every tire place here told me that the 275/70/17 won’t fit because the tires will rub. You’re confirming that in this video and say the rubbing is light rubbing. Any significant damage to the tires or the car body?
Great video. Just bought a 2021 Tacoma trd off road but 2wd. It’s my daily driver maybe 15% light off road hence the 2wd. Hate the stock tire and rims.
I wanna keep it stock, but I want aftermarket wheels and tires. Was thinking of the Toyo OC 3s AT tires love the tread design.
What wheel set up should I get?. 17/8 17/9 or a 16 inch wheel, and an off set of 0 to no more than -6. Don’t want positive offset since stock is like + 25. Tire size either 265/70/17 or 265 /75/16. I don’t mind going with the 16 inch provided I find a nice wheel. However there are more options for wheels in 17 inch seems like.
I just want a beefier stance without any mods or cutting or re shaping. No lifts or spacers, Can you please provide a recommendation for me? Thank you.!!!
Hey man, thanks for checking out the channel. I have a complete guide to the biggest wheels and tires for your stock 4runner or Tacoma that I'll be posting tomorrow afternoon. This video will answer all of your questions. Cheers, and congrats on the new rig!
@@squaredawayeveryday awesome... thanks I subscribed so I should get notification... appreciate it
I have trd sport 2017 , the original size tires is 265/65 /17 , can I change to 275 / 70/ 17 without any
Elevated ?
Should be fine. If not maybe do the bilstein 5100 with old man emu 887 springs I believe to level it out
@@Cosmicsurfpro thanks.
I like you Honesty !!!!!!!!!!!
Awesome videos! Would you happen to know about a stock ‘13 Avalanche or anyone with one? I’d love to do a lift but not in the near future at all. I will definitely let my inlaws know about this though for their 4Runner!
Love your channel. Just picked up a 2022 trd SPORT. New trim model... comes on 245/60/20 and wanting to move down the the TRD 17's and toyo at3 tires. Won't be doing any off roading. Just want to make it look like a cooler mom car while hauling my kids around. Can't find any info on the vehicle yet. Any pointers on where to do some research?
Trim aside, the vehicle is generally still the same. All this info still applies.
Just bought a 2023 4runner Sr5. It came with trd pro wheels and trd skid plate. from the factory. It even has them listed on the window sticker. Not sure why…but it did. Not uncommon here in Denver actually. I see a lot come this way. Nothing to do with ethics. It is just a wheel. The car title says it all…
Great video 👍 please make some gx 470
Looking to pick up a GX470 soon, and will do! Thanks for checking out the channel!
What is the biggest 16” wheel/tire combo for the Tacoma? I have the Trd off road and I really like the stock wheels. I have heard 265/75/16?
You could probably run a 275/75/16. With this you'll be only 1/10 of an inch wider than the 275/70/17 I reference in this video. So the end result would probably be a bit more rubbing, however the 16 inch wheel will set you up for more sidewall if you choose to upgrade suspension and tires down the road. Keep in mind that you'll still need some offset on the wheel you go with.
Will 255/85R16 work on a 2020 Tacoma Off Road w/o rubbing?
I have a 2020 Tacoma Sr v6 4x4. I have been told that 265/70r16 will work fine with the factory steel rims with no rubbing. Is that accurate?
Definitely not unethical...what’s unethical is the dealerships trying to horde those wheels. I think Toyota would actually get pretty pissed if they found out about that because they would be loosing money from a whole aftermarket / modding community.
I think that stipulation may actually be coming from Toyota, not the dealers.
Find a 4runner that doesn’t have TRD wheels and I’ll find you one. Hit me up- I don’t need like money or anything, I just do work for dealerships and they’re all over limited and sr5’s. Happy to help out.
In Canada too?
Thanks for the video, good info. I ordered a set of these black TRD pro wheels 17” exactly what you described and they should be arriving tomorrow. Now I’m undecided on which all-terrain tires to run on these wheels. I’m looking at both the k02’s and the Falken wild peaks. I was originally set on k02’s, but I constantly hear about the balancing issues people have to deal with, and personally I don’t want to deal with going back and forth for rebalancing. Any suggestions? Thanks By the way, I have a 2021 TRD off road premium 4 runner.
Very nice, congrats on the wheels and the rig. I personally really like the K02, the AT3's are comparable, but in my opinion the K02 lasts longer and has better road manners. I've owned 3 sets of K02's, never had any balancing issues, even mounted on various vehicles and wheels. Either one is a great choice. Cheers!
Thanks for the info! Subscribed!! Would like your thoughts/comments. I have a '21 Tacoma OR and I'm looking at adding the TRD Pro wheels. (Love that "near stock" look of the Pro's w/ BFG's) I've read thru Tacoma World and found a thread regarding 2 different Pro wheels - a Tacoma Pro wheel @ 7" and a 4Runner Pro wheel @ 7.5"; difference/recommendation? After watching your information and others, (Outside Mag had an article about "Killin the Tacoma) I'm looking for an "Overland" "broad/wide stance" look but I really don't want to change up performance much. (significant loss of power with larger wheel/tire set-up, mileage, etc.) (I miss my '13 SR5 engine! (less shifting at 75mph)) So here's my question: Best look w/o sacrificing too much performance and NOT dumping a bunch of $$ into the truck to make the wheels/tires work? (minimal off-roading) OK, GO! And Thanks!!!
Hey thanks man, much appreciated! Regarding the style of Pro wheel I like the 4Runner Pro (the same as this video), mainly because you get a 7.5" width, and they look great as well. The tire size mentioned in this video looks great on a stock Taco and will still fit in the spare tire location. As for performance, this will be very close if not exactly the same as stock. Hope this helps, if you want a more technical look at wheel and tire set ups check out this part 2 video to this one. th-cam.com/video/PqhC34QQCBM/w-d-xo.html
I think it’s more unethical that the dealership thinks they have the right to tell you what you can spend your money on based on the trim level you have.
Does any one know what the biggest tire and wheel size I can put on a 1st gen Tacoma prerunner with a stock suspension without rubbing?
265/75
funny part is i have SRY i just gave the Dealer parts guy the part number and he took payment didn't even ask for my VIN lol
A question: is the TRD wheel the same as the TRD-Pro? My local dealer has TRD wheels on sale at the moment... they look like TRD-Pro but I can't tell. Thanks for your video(s)!!
There's multiple TRD wheels in production, the one featured in this video is the old TRD SEMA wheel.
I have a 2016 4Runner Limited went with a Cooper Discover AT3 275/55/R20. Is there anything I need to do to suspension. I have been getting some vibration at 60-70mph. I switched the wheels to the rear. It seems to go away, but some time the tires wheel vibrated again. Any suggestions
I seem to have a 20 inch rim so I may not be able yo do this setup.
Interesting, I was on BFG’s website, punched in my vehicle and when I checked the KO2, it said that it wouldn’t fit my stock 21 4Runner venture, even though they make it in my size.
Bear in mind that the tire manufacturers and tire stores are extremely conservative with the sizing they say will work. Remember that this tire size and rim combo I've given (275/70/r17) is the absolute biggest tire you can run on a 4Runner or Tacoma and light rubbing may happen at full crank. Hope this helps.
Squared Away Everyday 👍
I have a set of wheels that are 17×8.5 with -10mm offset paired with a set of 265/70r17 KO2 tires. These are going on my 2022 4runner trd OR. Should I expect any rubbing? If so do I need to worry about harming anything on the truck?
Thank you for the info. Looking for advice as I have read many different things. I just bought a 2019 4Runner TRD pro and looking to enhance the look. Will a 275 width cause any rubbing issues with the K02 tire? It is the stock suspension/ all stock vehicle
You could be fine with a 275 in this configuration. Although it really comes down to the alignment.
I just ordered a 21 Tacoma TRD Sport. I REALLY like this wheel and tire combo. However I don't plan to lift or level my truck or do any "heavy off roading". My concern is that if there's rubbing while turning at full angle, than there would be some terrible clipping while turning if my shock is under medium/light compression right? Example... going over over uneven terrain as simple as parking in someone's yard. Would it be logical to try and get a slightly smaller tire for the rim? Like a 265/65? ( I don't know if that exsists, but you get my point ).
Logical, yes! With that said, the most logical thing to do is just keep the truck stock. The engineers at Toyota put a lot of R&D into how these trucks should be built. Going off what your plans are for the truck I'd say you'll be good to go with 275/70/17. I know because I've done it on both my Runner and Taco, and probably on harder terrain than the majority of people will ever see. If you're worried, the 265/65 would certainly be a good conservative medium. Hope this helps, lol!
Hello. I have a 2021 Tacoma TRD Sport completely stock and I've been looking at the exact same wheel and tire combo. Where I live, you can get ticketed for. It having mudflaps on trucks and SUVs, so I don't have the option of removing them. Do you think this combination would rub the factory mudflaps?
It will rub.
I HAVE A 2021 4RUNNER TRD PRO. I JUST WANNA KNOW WHAT SZ TIRE I CAN GO MAX WITH NO RUB.
I fit 285/70/17 on pro wheels 2018 TRD off road 4 runner stock suspension. Zero rub
hmmm, i have a 2018 TRD Pro , , , i think i works too.
I hope you never need to turn or hit bumps
I have a 2010 Tacoma with these wheels on it and I was thinking about trying 255/80/17 so I can get a 33 inch tire
Never tried the pizza cutters, although I hear good things about UCA and fender clearance. Let me know what you think.
You mentioned that you can run a 16 inch wheel on a 5th gen 4Runner? I was told they are too small and rub the calipers in front. Can you please verify . Thanks
This is something I should have clarified a little better in the video. I've seen guys running 16 inch wheels on 5th get runners, however you really need to be attentive to offset and backspacing. For most people, the 17 inch wheel is the best option, It also will provide the biggest tire compared to the 16 tire option for stock 4Runners. For this reason I've trimmed the part about 16 inch wheels out of the video. Thanks for the question though. Cheers!
@@squaredawayeveryday Hey No worries I love the channel and I really like your set up on the Tacoma. I would love to see the black rhinos on the 4Runner because that’s what I want to do to mine. I wasn’t sure if the 16 inch wheel would bolt on or not because some people say they won’t. Keep up the good content 👍
Great video! Your final comment when you said your Tacoma is tricked out but you now have a little rubbing? Not sure what you meant by that? It seemed to negate everything you talked about. I’m probably wrong but just not sure. Thanks.
Thanks man. I could see how maybe that would be confusing. When I ran this same set up on both my Tacoma and on my 4Runner you will certainly have some lite rubbing, nothing crazy, and if it bothers you just trim the plastic wheel well a bit. Since those days, I've upgraded my suspension, UCAs, wheels, and tires on the Tacoma; and I have no rubbing.
Appreciate your quick reply. I was hoping I heard it wrong but it’s encouraging to know it’s not a major issue. I’ve seen other vids where they put 33’s with no rub but he didn’t talk about off road driving. I’m hoping to get the look of filling the well out without a lift. Your video was very well explained and I do appreciate you knowledge!
@@boblafountaine9560 A 275/70/17 (32.16" tire) will fill out the wheel well very nicely in either the Tacoma or 4Runner. Anyone who says they can fit 33's on a stock rig with no rubbing is lying; I can assure you of this. Yes, you will still have minimal rubbing with the 275/70/17 but as mentioned before, this is a cosmetic rub that could be fixed with a Dremel if you so choose. Good luck!
@@squaredawayeveryday Agreed. Everyone is insanely concerned with a slight rub, but if you watch any youtube video of folks flexing their rigs hard on the trails, even $80K jeeps and such rub. You can hear the tire's lugs thumping the cabs or fenders. I think if you are terrified of a LITTLE rubbing, then stay stock or stay off the trails.
The bad part is the gearing is already too damn tall and a larger diameter tire just makes that problem worse. Also, the speedometer will be off if not calibrated afterward as well including your odometer.
Agreed, the gearing is horrible on the Tacos!!!
Can I not fit a 17x9.5 on stock with an -18 offset on my 22 4runner
Is that Pro sema wheel different from the TRD wheel on other trims (say like the 2021 Venture)? Also I am not the huge lift guy, but I like a lift so I may try to replicate TRD pro Height and run 275's. Only thing I hear is they are heavier, and only come in a LT. Now I see I can get 275/70/17 and have to go with LT but it's a C load which if im correct is a 6 ply. My question is, Does going with LT change the ride? Should I try to stick with P-metric or Standard load? I love 275's cause alternative is 285 and all the rubbing issues and a higher lift. I wonder if I'm making too much outta "LT", although it is my daily driver and not a huge amount of off road. Sorry for the life story.
A light truck tire will compliment your truck nicely. Certainly not as shock absorbing as a P or S rated tire, although you can slightly change tire pressure to offset that.
So I have a stock 2018 Tacoma and want to get some 17" x 8.5" wide wheels with 285x70R17. Will this fit or would it rub ? Again completely stock no lift or spacers.
Unfortunately no, this would not be a functional fit, a 285 on a stock runner or taco is just too big. This will initially fit, however when you find yourself hitting bumps and turning at the same time you'll run into more serious problems.
@@squaredawayeveryday Thank you so much for the info and keep the videos coming.
Newbie here to tires and lifts/levels. Great video but I’m still slightly confused on rubbing. Just bought a 2021 4runner TRD off-road premium KDSS with upgraded TRD pro wheels as shown in your video. What will 275 tires rub on? Just the front tires rub? Will I need to remove mud flaps? Cuz I don’t! Later on I would want to run bilsteins 5100 shocks all around with the stock springs. Just to level. Around 1.5 to 2” in front and nothing in rear. Any thought on that level set up anyone??? Will probably never go off-road tbh🤔 thanks
Basically want the same setup. Did 275's rub with no lift?
I currently drive a stock 2021 4Runner SR5 Premium. I'm thinking about purchasing an aftermarket Method Racing Wheel that's 17" x 8.5" with a 0mm offset. I also plan on getting Toyo tires 265/70R/17 What do you think about it?
Sounds like a great set up, you could run a wider tire with that wheel though.
@@squaredawayeveryday I actually got the exact setup I mentioned. I love them. I just got to adjust the alignment.
Why would anyone want a TRD wheel when it’s not a TRD? There are plenty of wheels that look like that
Its lightweight, its retains resale value, it reduces unsprung weight, they Dissipate Heat Better, they Offset the Weight Gain from Bigger Tires.
@@evoixmr8426 ty for the info 👍🏼
It Grinds my Gears when I see a dude that thinks he’s soooo cool driving a TRD Pro truck with the regular sissy road tires.
Great video well explained. I'm actually stuck on tire size, i did a 3" lift in the front and 2" in the back and really want to go with BF ko2 at 285s with the extact same trd rim. But not sure if it will rub.
Hey thanks man, I appreciate you checking out the vid. Are you running a 4Runner or Tacoma?
@@squaredawayeveryday Running a 19 4runner.
If Tacoma, just just 285/70 not 285/75
Own a 2016 tacoma sport, purchased the TRD wheels 17x7. Want to buy the KO2, 275/70/17, will they run? If so what tire size with no rubbing.
275/70/17 on a TRD Pro SEMA wheel will have lite rubbing. I have a new video about to drop this afternoon that encompasses everything you need to know about wheels and tires on your stock rig.
I have a stock 2019 Tacoma SR it came with 245/60/16s looked like it slipped leg day lol
I put 285/70/17s on it very little rub at full turn only in Left reverse none on right full chalk
Truck looks like a mean lean machine . Someday I hope to get a small lift or just go for a beefier or a heavier duty suspension. I plan on getting a alu cab canopy camper next year
Hey Ken, I'm sure your truck looks great, and I'm stoked for you to get into the off-roading/overlanding thing; however, I would highly caution against doing either until you down size your tires or upgrade your suspension.
Even though it doesn't seem like it, your problems will start to surface when you begin to turn and hit bumps at the same time. Here's a good way to check if your tolerances before hitting the trail, take off a coil over, fully compress the suspension, and then crank all the way left and right. I can almost promise you that you'll be rubbing your UCA's, frame, or severely rubbing the wheel well. Having run the smaller 275/70/17 set up and tested this myself (both vehicles having excellent alignment) I can assure you this is the biggest you can go on both a 4Runner and Tacoma.
I hope you don't take this as patronizing or talking down to you, I'm just trying to help you out along with the rest of the Tacoma/4Runner community. Hope this helps, cheers!
@@squaredawayeverydaynone taken. I'm just a newbie. Didn't even know what overlanding was until I got my Tacoma and now it's all I can think about LoL. I haven't been hard core offroding yet LoL
Did a little bit
Sometime this next spring I'm going to beaf up the suspension to handle the canopy camper plus ad air bags . On the front im just going with a full brush guard nothing extremely heavy don't want to cut up my plastic . But I want to keep it from getting too scratched up
Can anyone help, I have 2011 4x4 Tacoma; I installed rims from Discount Tires and since then I had to replace the front wheel bearing and U-Joints and now a have damaged bearing on the rear. any recommendations on the rims I can install; currently using 17 rims. Thanks (Discount later told me that I was given the wrong nuts and were replaced but damaged done)
Just tried to see on a website if the 17"x7", 4mm off-set TRD Pro 4Runners would fit on my 2020 Tacoma Off-road. And the result says "Does not fit". Is this true?
It fit on my 2017 Tacoma Off-Road, there's a photo of it with those wheels in the video. If the wheels you're looking at are legit Toyota TRD Pro SEMA wheels, they'll fit your 3rd gen.
So I just got the ko2 275/70/17 with trd rims will they fit my 2018 4Runner sr5 2wd? I don’t want any rubbing or trimming
How did it go ?
I feel like the Tacoma looks weird with a 7 inch width wheel I just got a Tacoma and I want a 17x8 inch wheel prob 280 75 17 but that’s prob impossible
On a stock height? Yeah you’ll be trimming and rubbing for days. 7in width is good if you want that “pumped” up tire look.
I recently bought rims for my stock 2012 Tacoma. They’re 17x9 with a 2mm offset.
What’s the best and widest tire that you would recommend I get. I was thinking 285 70 r17?
Sorry man, I'm not too privy on the Gen 2 Tacos.
265 70 R17 - stock
275 70 R17 - 2 in or higher lift
*285 70 R17 - 3in or higher lift
*Cab mount chop recommend
You think putting 275/70/17 on a 2 inch front level kit will be fine to off-road?
I'm not a huge fan of leveling kits for off-road use, but in a lite capacity it should be fine; I used to do it back in the day. Tire wise, you'll be good to go.
Do you know if these TRD PRO wheels will fit 2008 2nd Gen Tacoma?
They will.
Would I be able to do 265/70/17 or 265/75/7 on stock TRD Sport 2WD on 3rd Gen. Just for some mild trail and road use. Just love the aggressive look of the BFG's. Thanks
Yeah you could run a 265/70/17, on a similar wheel, if anything you could pick a wheel with more negative offset. Although I wouldn't run a 265/75/17, that'd be too tight on a stock rig.
not unethical at all in my opinion. There making there money either way lol who cares thanks for the tip though
Lol ppl with ethnic. However I will totally be using another VIN.
Is there a speedometer variance from stock?
On the 275/70/17 it's negligible.
So I wont be able to run 275/70/17 with a 17x8.5 -12 offset
This should work just fine, honestly the 8.5 inches of rim width is a little better fit than a 275 on a 7 inch wide wheel. Do be aware though, you may have a bit more rubbing on the inner shoulders with that increased offset; which means you may or may not need some lite dremel work.
You the fking best DUDE 👌🏻
I have 265 r7 on my stock 2008 tacoma but Im looking at the 275 70's. Any thoughts ?
I'm not sure on those 2nd gens.
Anyone know about a 2010 Tacoma?
If the dealership won't sell you the, it's only fair to play their game
Agreed
Not a fan of Ko2. Currently using toyo at3 and looking forward to ridge grapplers
How are the Toyos treating you? After literally hundreds of thousands of miles on many sets of BFG AT's, I'm done with them. For the money they demand, they suck. Out of round issues, hard ride from half-life till 50k. They're just way over rated compared to today's modern tire options. Considering the Toyo Open Ctry AT3 for my new '21 TRD OR. It's at the top of my list or the Cooper Disco AT3's. I've had phenomenal results on many sets of those but like the look of the Toyo tread.
Want a cookie?
God forbid I lie to a Multi-Billion Dollar company and give them my hard earned money anyways for some wheels for me to play in the dirt.
What makes that unethical exactly
I wonder how much extra money Toyota dealership had and will keep losing if they keep denying people buying TRD PRO wheels lol. It is not smart to restrict the sales of TRD PRO wheels. They'll lose money..
Agreed!
Hey Everyone, go check out my in-depth, updated video on this topic! Check it out here th-cam.com/video/PqhC34QQCBM/w-d-xo.html
TRD PRO wheel is 4mm offset. NEGATIVE 4mm offset meaning it is push out streetward. The stock SR5 5th gen wheels are positive 15mm offset with more backspace.
I appreciate the comment, however the offset is a positive 4 on the SEMA wheels. You can reference that here on Toyota's parts page parts.toyota.com/p/Toyota_2018_4Runner/TRD-17-In-Matte-Black---Alloy-Wheel/69529063/PTR2035110BK.html I did however jumble my words when talking about what that offset means. Check out my second video on this topic for clarification.
@@squaredawayeveryday oh ok. Sorry my error. All I know is SR5 wheels are 15mm positive, and TRD PRO wheels are 4mm, I wasn't sure if it was positive or negative.
The Sema wheel is the mat gray version.
The Sema wheel applies to both the black and gray variants.
Squared Away Everyday Ah, you’re right. I should google stuff before making statements on line from word of mouth knowledge. I do know the mat gray ones look awesome on my 2020 Tacoma OR. I’m running Ko2 265/70/17 on stock suspension with no rubbing issues.
Nice man, gotta love'em! Cheers!
Toyota sucks that they make it difficult to buy TRD parts! Well, I completely turned my TRD Sport 4X4 into a highly modified TRD PRO with all OEM Pro Parts. Completely cloned. It can be done, there are Online Toyota Dealers that never asked any questions and looked the other way. Why not, they are charging an arm and a leg for everything. Close to $ 800 for the Pro Grill, $ 500 plus for the Rigid Industries Fog Lights, $680 Embroidered TRD PRO Headrests, all the correct name plates and badging, black hood decal, and so on. I added the Fox 2.5 Reservoir DSC 3” lift shocks all 4 corners, Nitto Terra Grapplers 285X70 17’s, Icon Delta Joint Upper Control Arms, Katskin black leather interior, etc.
Agreed, the parts should be available to people who are willing to pay the premium for the TRD goods. Sounds like you've found a way around most of the hurdles though, I'm sure your rig looks fantastic and functions great! Thanks for checking out the vid. Cheers!
Why wouldn’t a dealer make a rim sale just because the owner didn’t have a trd pro vehicle? Such douche bags.
tacoma's first need rear disc brakes, and 4 runners with those tiny differentials need new gears before larger tires
I own both and have this tire size on a Tacoma and 4Runner; neither of those modifications are needed for the tire size mentioned in the video.
Tacoma’s got drums because they can go 100k before needing to be serviced. Either way you can get a rear disk conversion kit.
Why is it unethical?
Just that pesky rule of not lying.