One of the things I love about Chloe's takes is that they are always well reasoned so that even if you personally don't agree based on your own usage it completely makes sense why she did it and it gives a blueprint for others.
Awesome video Chloe. For now I went with 265 KO2's because I didn't want to do a lift right off the bat. I'd imagine in the future I may go 275 C-load tires or 285s. It's really hard to decide and from what I understand if you want to be able to use all 6 gears you'll need a re-gear and that's not cheap. Also, if you don't mind this coming a tiny bit early... it frickin' rocks you're about to cross 100k subs! No one deserves it more.
When installing a tire to a vehicle that’s jack up , not too high from the ground. I learned you can put a long pry bar or extension under it to lift it up, it’s much easier than crunching over and lifting it or seating down. I learned that from truckers videos when they install those massive semi’s tire that are heavy af. It saves your back 👍
The 33s (285) are better if you want an extra inch of ground clearance for getting over off-road obstacles so the diff isn't scraping or getting hung up. The guys at 4WD 24-7 have a video called "31 v 33 v 35 inch Tyre Mega Test" and determined that 33s are perfect for a mid-sized truck and 35s are perfect for a full-sized truck. Getting maximum fuel mileage is fine for a street truck but with a 4x4 the priority is performance and puncture resistance. You can still get "good" gas mileage with the 6-cylinder because it isn't a gas-guzzling V8, and 33 inch (285) tires are not a huge increase in size over a 31 (265).
Thats only if you're willing to go down the rabbit hole of cab mount chop, viper cut, grinding down, regearing, etc. They might fit when you put them on and drive regular roads but once you start ofroading they'll rub like crazy as the suspension compresses in and out. Also, I've offroaded a lot for many years on moderate trails with 31 inch tires and have never scraped the diff. Most likely ifyou're on a trails that difficult that require 33 inch tires you'r also going to need front and rear steel bumpers and full underbody armor. 33's are just a money pit IMHO. I like 31's or 32's.
@@johnnytorres277 a gear change is a Great idea. I put 265/75/16 on my Tacoma and that's only one inch taller than the stock 245/65/16 tires and now my automatic transmission doesn't want to stay in 6th gear on the highway. I think 5.30 gears would be good for 33 inch tires
Zero offset wheels 255/80r17 4runner and 255/85r16 Tacoma is the easiest stock suspension 33's you can add to light Trucks and SUVs. minor rubbing easy adjustments works offroad as well.
@@silvrr2 yup and they are true 33s, get better mileage, and as I'm sure you are aware a tall skinny actual has more traction off road when air down in all but really deep sand or when you need float in deep snow. Even then, the physics of it actually shows that the contact patch overall surface area is essentially the same as a wider tire but in a longitudinal way vs. Across the tire. Sort of like a ski vs snowshoe. Both keep you on top of snow but achieve the surface area differently. Many channels have done a good job of showing the actual science behind the tall skinny being beneficial. I think most like the stance of 285s but I actually prefer the 255s in looks too. To each their own of course.
Funny, I just bought a brand new 2023 Tacoma TRD Off-Road last Friday and was stuck on this very same question. So I went to one of our local off-road shops out here in Albuquerque called "Desert Rat" and lucky for me, they were pretty knowledgeable on this. They said that mods were necessary for 285's and so what I did is I went with some Bilstein 5100 series shocks, Maxtrac 2.5 spacer kit, and some 265/75/R16 Toyo MT's and some aluminum aftermarket wheels. The new shocks will be more plush, allow me to level the vehicle while raising it just slightly, and the 265/75's will fit beautifully. It will be around 2.5-3 inches higher which will give me some decent gains in off-road capabilities but I won't really be sacrificing much in terms of power, on-road comfort, or gas mileage. I went with Toyo MT's because that's what I've been running on my FJ Cruiser (295's) since I bought it in 08. I get 55 thousand miles on them, they do great in all types of terrains, and even though they are MT's, they are radials and balance well. Great videos, keep em coming.
have you thought about going with 275/70/17's .. i have them on my 2nd gen . i downsized from the 285's and the rubbing issues went away.. have a decent lift (running Bilstein 6100, add a leaf for the rear, coilovers) about 2" lift . this set up works good for me. and i went with the 285's on my GX. since i use the tacoma as a daily, it hasn't killed my mileage and it's still fun to run easier off road trails . if your choice is between the 285's and 265's i'd go 285. but if you can, pick the 275's and have fun with them
Another great and informative video Chloe. I run 265/70 R17 Trail Grapplers on Forerunner TRD wheels. I considered going to 285’s but was told by many people that there would likely be rubbing at full turn and articulation. Not to mention requiring a BMC. I do have +/- 3” lift but didn’t want the potential hassle. I agree with many that 285’s would look great, but then again so would 35’s. One mod usually leads to the next.
Fun fact about about the BF goodrich they are on the smaller end in the same size as other brands. I found this out after putting them side by side a lot of brands. My toyo AT 2 Xtreme im running now in 35inch vs the 35 ko2 happens to be bigger
After doing some physics (approx. I = mr^2) the larger tires require 20-25% more torque to accelerate or decelerate when compared to the smaller tires. Which will also change when you add the wheels. That’s seems kinda significant though
I just got these 285/70/17 ko2 on my 2021 ranger last week. Absolutely love them. Definitely a huge upgrade over stock tires especially in snowy, slushy Utah. They are definitely not cheap but absolutely worth every penny. Great vid!
Hi, my Tacoma trd offroad (2019) come with 265/70R16 , I buy one years use, and I change for 265/75 R16 just a little bit more high profile and I m very Happy. Before the Tacoma , I run FJ CRUISER 2011 for 10 years with 285/70 R17 with the FJ CRUISER, not problem to fit , you have more space for big tire... with stock suspension, I don't have the stock suspension on the FJ but they fit . For the Tacoma I m gonna put the ARB HEAVY DUTY SUSPENSION WITH THE ARB ARM control, but I m gonna stay with the 265/75R16.... this size are easier for the mechanic, for all the moving parts and for the millage ( I m Canadian gaz are way more expensive) . And this profile 75 are good for offroad, I run FALKEN WILDPEAK AT3W 10 ply, I like a lot we have a lot of Snow in my area and they are great. Thank for you r video, you have a great TH-cam channel
I definitely love my 265/70r17 tires. No rubbing and no fuel loss. I just purchased Method 316 rims with 0 offset. Cannot wait for them to come in and get them on my Taco. Fell in love with Method rims after I saw them on your truck, thank you 👍😁
Love the K02's. I ran them for years off road, on road, and anywhere in between. Never had a puncture, never got stuck, and they are really good for low road noise. Great choice!
I just put 4 Toyo 265/70/17’s on my 2012 FJB Edition FJ Cruiser. Love them!! 😉 I would say that once you had the Toyos on your truck you will change your mind about the KO2’s!
265’s are your most economical smartest choice for off-road with your stock lift truck. 285’s pros: longer and wider footprint so better traction with slightly more ground clearance, looks cooler! Cons: heavier tire increases stopping distance, decreased fuel economy and robs power.
8:32 Running 4wd in the rain says it all. The new KO2 features a hard rubber that wears longer, but isn't worth a lick on wet pavement. They're a popular choice in the more arid, western states. I'm running Wildpeak AT3's in 255/80/r17. They're great in rain, snow, & hold their own off road. They're taller than 285's & weigh 52.5 lbs in load range E. No loss of power in my 6MT Nissan Frontier.
I actually have been pretty impressed with the 265 stock Wranglers. When it comes time to replace though I'll likely get Toyo AT3's or Wildpeaks in 275. I mostly take forest roads and some snow here in the PNW , no mudding for me.
Great video, I am also very satisfied with the stock wrangler tires and I do get out on forest service roads in all weather conditions but K02 in 265 will be my upgrade. I am also in the Pnw
@@Mr_Chicken314 no rubbing at all. It’s the only size that will fit without any mods to suspension. Great tire and vast improvement from the stock tires.
Oh I already know what your going with. My answer is 285/70/17 right! 😂 I knew it. You’ve already rocked the 265’s there’s zero reason to go that route again. You’re not worried about fuel consumption we all already know that. It’s nice but not the decision maker. You’ve already put a ton of $$ into your baby so a few more bucks isn’t going to stop you from the look you love. Also the functionality off road most definitely helps you make this decision. So thanks for your videos and sharing your love with us. Besides San Diego is beauty but we all know Chula Vista and other surrounding communities don’t have the best roads. I know I’m in California too. Now Florida… they got some beautiful roads. Ok thanks again! I know I’m right. Hahaaa My two sons both have Tacoma’s!
Great video! In my opinion gears ARE DEFINITELY required for 285’s if you don’t want the truck to be gutless. If you regear there’s no reason to go 285’s… just go to 315’s. A small 35 is perfect for the 3rd gen.
@@cobratuner you’re just used to it. If you put your stock tires/wheels back on it would feel like an absolute rocket. That’s the difference in having proper gearing. If you still have your stock set up throw them on and find out 👍
I think the 265 tires are great for people that don’t lift their trucks. If you’re already lifted it just makes sense to go up a size. Just keep off-roading and upgrade what you need as you go. I went rear bumper first after breaking, sliders after the predator steps broke, 3in lift/level stock control arms and then 285/75/R16s. I have a 19 OR 6MT, the factory lower gearing helps turn my 285s better than the autos. If you’re planning on re gearing then go as big as you want! My current setup is the rough country 3in struts (front) and blocks/shocks (rear), stock control arms and leaf springs, 285/75/r16 Yokohama Geolander MTs, and 1.5in spidertrax hub centric wheel spacers. With my alignment set at 1.5 degrees of caster and removing mudflaps I do NOT rub at all! Full tuck and full steering lock she moves freely! Currently sitting at around 15/16mpgs at 40psi and a soft topper over the bed. My next upgrade will probably be the method bead grip wheels and get the correct offset to ditch the spacers. If you get MTs I highly recommend the geolanders! But I think next time around I’m going to try out the wild peaks and see how they do. Hopefully with the less aggressive tread I’ll get back a few MPGs or even one will make me happy. I think we are all hoping you go with the 285s! You’re already lifted with a better setup than a few of us, I’m sure you’ll love it and never go back!
Lift makes no difference when suspension articulation is significant. If you go off-roading, you WILL RUB when using 285mm wide or larger with or without a lift. You have to consider what happens when the truck is not driving on a perfectly flat and straight asphalt surface.
If you get tired of the ko2’s give the nitto ridge grapplers a try. They’re super quiet on the highway and have great traction Offroad. I always try to fit the largest tire with the least amount of lift
Hello. I really appreciate your content. I think there is one minor error that might hang people up. You mentioned that the 265 is the stock tire size on a 3rd gen Tacoma. But you end up needing wheel size and the ratio number to get to the diameter. The 265/70R17 that you are talking about is 31.6" in diameter. My stock 2023 Tacoma TRD Off Road came with 265/70R16 (not 17) so it is a 30.6" diameter tire.
I went with Cooper STT PRO 265/75/16 on my Tacoma TRD PRO. 3,200 miles cross country on 285's was very expensive. They looked great but switched to 265.
Depends on what you do with the truck. For off-road I always want the biggest tire that will fit under the truck. Bigger tires let you air down more and make big holes feel smaller. Doesn’t do you much good if you have giant tires that you can’t turn though. Went from 33’s to 35’s on my Silverado and the 35’s feel way better all around. Smooths out the small chop and take big hits better too.
I have 265 KO2's on my 4Runner. And I agree, in the rain, it is definitely not a good grip for the road. I slide a lot, and have to be very careful when taking turns. I also think my 265's are probably too small for the lift I have, and if I could afford the 285's, I would probably do those or 305's
I run the 265 ridge grapplers on my sport 4x4. The reason i chose both the sport and these tires is I don't do a whole lot of off road stuff. I'll ride in some grass and mud taking the dogs to the park and a few times a year go through some mountain trails to get to some cabins, but 98 percent of what i do is regular driving. The grapplers have performed well in Ice, snow, mountains and soft grass so far. I've not really tested them past this. They do pretty good in heavy rain puddles. I've heard people complain about their ability in rain but i haven't had any issues yet and i live in a place it rains a lot. I've been pleased with both the truck and tires/tire size. Plus the these tires give it a great look. I will probably do the same again when they need to be changed.
255/85/16 o' 255/80/17 KM2 . They are the best option , but they are little know , you have to investigate and you will see that they are the best features for your truck , it is the military configuration, they are light , tall but better maneuverable , personally I use them in my all terrain vehicles.
I just went up to 285/75R16 Ridge Grapplers and it gives my 2020 Tacoma such a beefier profile. I did 3”/1” Pro Comp Leveling Kit, the gas mileage is not as good but the look I was going for is completely worth it. I’m so glad that I stayed with the 16” wheel, all the rubber just looks outstanding in my opinion.
I have the exact same tire set up on my 21 Tacoma but did the Eibach stage 1 pro system lift. Gives me about 2 1/2 in the front. Rides great and looks even better. So glad I didn’t do 275/75r16 tires.
I went to 285/70 17 Ridge Grappler from the stock 265/ 70 16 and lost 5 mpg. My 17’s weighed 83 lbs where the stock 16’s weighed 46 lbs. The 285 on 16’s seems like a good compromise. Getting in and out is a bit harder of course with the 2 inch lift I got also.
Tires seem to be a compromise. On my '17 Tacoma, I went from the stock Goodyear kevlars to Goodyear Duratracs, and stayed with the stock size 265/70x16. I probably lost 1mpg due to weight increase, but only ~40 lbs/tire from ~37 lbs. I'll likely go back to a lighter weight tire next time although my Duratracs have performed well off-road and in snow. I can't fore see going to a 50# K02. Good video btw. On my '03 Tacoma, the 40# Duractracs seem to be my limit for what the older lower powered '03 can acceptable-to-me drive/power/accelerate.
I have a 2020 TRD Off Road Tacoma, and I just put some KO2s on it. I went with 285/75 R16 because I love my stock wheels, but I wanted the 33" tires. I upgraded to a 3"/2" leveling kit for clearance and don't have any rubbing on body components. I am getting a bit of rub at full lock on the A arm, so I picked up some 1" wheel spacers. That should give me clearance from the suspension, and still keep me clear of the body at full lock. The 33s look amazing on the truck!!
so, i am currently on my second set of the BFG KO2 tires. i have a 3in lift in the front and somewhere close to 3.5 in the back. i ran 285/75/r16 tires (E Load) with a 1 inch wheel spacer. i had to do the pinch weld mod, and a cab mount chop and it still rubbed. that said, i loved them. granted i had a 15 minute commute to and from work. i regeared with nitro 4:88 gears and it felt like a different truck. it mitigated the loss in power and actually gave me some of my mileage back that i lost. once i changed jobs and, my 15 minute commute went to a 45-50 minute commute, i had to change them. like my fuel economy dropped drastically. i tried out the General Grabbers and while they were a decent tire, i had a front upper ball joint go and it ruined my tires. i went back to the 265s and im glad i did. i ran my 285's for about 70+ thousand miles and i never had an issue with them.
Hello everyone. Reminder: "285 is not the tire/size or diameter=Important detail in the size of a tire/wheel in a car." Meaning of 285=Width of the tire in mm, the part that touches the road surface. It's possible to have a small or large diameter tire in width as follows: 285, 275, 265, 255, 235(mm) in different wheel sizes: 16", 17", 18", 30", etc... Diameter=Tire size=28", 29", 30", 31", 32", 33", 35", 49", etc...
Bigger looks better with a lift and considering you do a fair amount of off-roading I’d say 285. I went with KO2 at 265/75/16 and think it’s perfect for stock.
You should also consider being about to carry around a full size spare. Will the 285 still fit under the bed? Or will you have to relocate the spare to the bed itself?
I agree. Yeah the 285's look slightly better, but the negatives are too many....MPG goes down 1-2 mpg, potential rubbing issues, cost, etc. Great video, as usual, Chloe! You do a wonderful job with your channel :) I will pick up a 2024 Taco TRD OffRoad Premium very soon. Can't wait to see your new wheels once you pull the trigger!
Don't forget that the roads in California are always super slick during the rain season because of all the oil & stuff that accumulates during the rest of the dry season. There really isn't going to be any general purpose / AT tire suitable for that situation. Just have to drive slower and be a lot more cautious.
My Silverado's got 255/70R17 General Grabbers as stock and they're only 32lbs. I was going to go to a 285/75R17 Yokohama A/T tire, but they're 60lbs! I'm pretty sure a 28lb per tire increase would be felt in the gas pedal, handling, and MPG. I want to go bigger, but might settle on a 265 or 275 to save weight. It's a full size truck, so visually it can certainly handle a larger tire.
Just recently went with 255/75R17 KO2s on my 07 taco, would’ve gone with 255/80 but they don’t make the KO2 in that size and I get big discounts on BFG tires. I really wish they made the KO2 in a 33x10 or 33x10.5
A droop setup on Tacoma’s is the way to go. Extended travel setup that lets the wheels hang down more with minimal lift (1”-1.5”). This let’s you keep the center of gravity low while being able to get over the same obstacles.
I get poor traction w/ KO2 here in the Seattle with my V8 4Runner, I’ve tried BFG, Nitto, falken and Toyos both ATs and MTs. For me the best ones were Toyos AT3s, will try Baja Boss ATs nx time.
Like your videos. If you're into offroading, then go with the 285's and regear to a 5.29. You'll appreciate getting the power back after putting the 285's on, pick up 1 - 1.5mpg and your truck won't be screaming at you going uphills trying to find a gear.
I’m going to assume 285s are the decision that was made, but my vote is for 265s. Big tires are overrated and offer far more cons than pros, in my opinion at least. Also, in rain you’re better off with 265 than 285. The only thing wider does is make you more likely to hydroplane. Yes, you have more rubber on the ground with 285s but that actually works against you as it creates more surface area for the water to lift you up and hydroplane. The skinnier tire cuts down to the road better and is more likely to retain traction.
don't go too big unless you have adequate lift and bumper, 285's will fit with no issues on your rig. I have 2.5 lift , plate bumper and cabin mount chop, I got 35's but I don't like them that much, they look great but not fun busting a U or making sharp turns (think about them drivethru trips) and extra weight = more wear and tear and it adds a decent amount of weight which will make your already crappy mileage even worse I have Maxxis Razr MT they have held up pretty good so far, I have lots of experience running Hankook DynaPro MT's and Toyo Open Country MT and never had an issue with either. If money weren't a factor I would just splurge and go with Toyo Open Country, but for the value and price point I think Hankook DynaPro is where it's at. Tires are one thing I would NEVER go cheap on
I installed the Hankook Dynapro AT2 Xtreme 265 70 17 with new 17 inch wheels on my TRD off Road. The issue going to the 17 is that it is like changing the gearing, making the truck shift more than when stock. Next time I am going with a 265 65 17, which will bring it back to a stock size while still using the 17 inch wheels. I have had KO2's before, but the Hankook Dynapro AT2 Xtreme are much quieter.
I have a 22 Taco oR I would Stick with the 265 way less rolling resistance i out ran a guy with his 285 lifted Taco truck 😂 Going steep uphill the 265 really shine 😊
Should give the new Mickey Thopson Baja Boss A/T a go one of these days. They perform way better in rain/snow than the K02 and have a super aggressive tread pattern for a A/T, looks almost like a M/T.
Chole... I have a 2018 Tacoma SR5 and I'm running a set of Hancook AT tires, they do OK here in Colorado with snow. Since it is my only vehicle I don't go off road unless I have too. My biggest issue with these tires is the excessive road noise. When I bought the truck it had highway tires on it and three days after buying the truck it snowed. Needless to say the highway tires got swapped out very quickly. The highway tires still had plenty of tread so I kept them and later found a set of TRD rims used that were in excellent shape to mount the highway tires on. I swap them out based on the season so hopefully both sets will last a few more years. Do the BFG KO2's have a lot of road noise? I used to have a 2000 Tundra and ran Bridgestone EVO Dualers on it, they were good in snow and on wet pavement but they don't make them in a size to fit my Tacoma. The Bridgestone EVO Dualers were not too bad on road noise but the the Tundra was much quitier than this Tacoma.
I've had both. The on road performance/fuel mileage is much better with the 265/75 R16 than the 285 and don't rub like the 285. Not much difference in off-road performance. About an inch of clearance.
Agree. I had 285/75/16 and downsized to 265/75/16. Let’s be honest about how most people use their truck. The 265’s just have way more advantages, still look great with a small lift.
The aspect ratio is another important part of the numbers in the tire size. A 265/75 is taller (larger diameter) than a 265/70. Another popular size for the Tacoma is the 255/85/16. It’s as tall as the 285/75 but not as wide.
Good to know, I run ridge grapplers, 265 70 17, the back end gets pretty slippery in any kind of wet or ice. Enough to scare me and I drive a lot slower. I didn’t like it.
I have a jeep wrangler and have the same tire and I have no problem in the rain either here in minnesota. In fact at my brother's cabin it's 20 to 30 percent grade to get up his driveway and I had no problem getting up it with about 2 inches or so of slushy snow with the 4wd engaged.
I highly recommend getting New Tires to get Balanced and Mounted Professionally. RoadForce Balancing is about $250 for 5 tires. But it makes a big difference in how the truck drives. I have installed my own tires for 15 years and when I did the balancing rims\tires it drastically improved driving and steering performance
I ran 265 on my yota and I ran them for a while. I installed a 3.5 inch lift kit so the 265 looked funny with the stock rims so I installed a 0 offset rim with 285 they are perfect..... Does rub on full articulation but if you plan to be on the highway no worries... I actually think the transmission runs a little bit smoother
285 and 265 are the WIDTH, in millimeters. The overall diameter is also dependent on the rim size and the profile. Flotation tire sizing is more straightforward than metric.
I’d be more worried about the reduction in performance. The Taco 3.5 is underpowered in stock form. I can’t imagine the performance with 33s. It would be dangerously slow.
Yeah there is, Hypertech and Rough Country (I think those are the only two options) sell an inline calibrator. You have to program it with your stock tire size and the new tire size and then plug it in behind the dash where it stays. I just put one in my 2022 TRD off road after going to 275/70R18 K/O2's. It takes a little bit of fine tuning to get it just right since very minor changes in the tire size will still throw off the readings, but it comes with a long usb cord than you can leave on it and run behind the dash and down by the electrical panel to update it until you get it where you want it. Not sure of the Hypertech model, but the program to update the RC model requires a windows computer.
Hi Chloe , Jay from SWF I tried the 265/65/17 KO2s but I put 2” blocks on the rear and Fox 2.0 on rear and Fox 2.0 adjustable on the front , I went with Mickey Thompson Baja Legend 275/70/17 I Frigging love em. Great I wet and sand. / not much snow in Naples FL😎. Best choice ever $1380 M/ B/ out the door ❤❤
If I remember you have a 3:1 lift on your Taco. I'd go with the 285's as long as there's no rubbing issues that can't be adjusted by cutting back the frame where needed..
I’m running the BFG KO2s 285/70r17s, including the matching spare which fits fine. I also have the Ironman stage 2 nitro lift. Rides smooth, no rub. Mpg will drop though.
My guess you will mount the 285 tires. I would advise calibrating the speedometer for the taller tire. Adjusting the gear ratio in the differentials may return some of the fuel economy with a hit to your torque. Awesome discussion!
Are the KO3's out yet in those sizes? If not, they should be by next year. Depending on rubbing issues and mileage I would go the the 265 or 275/70/17. Yes, once you go to larger, heavier tires it seems like more and more other components are impacted. I have some KO2s on my 2004 Tacoma in 245/75/16 and was thinking of whether to go with the same in KO3 or consider a Toyo 235/80/16. Just not sure I want to have to do additional mods to this truck as it is all original except for the Bilsteins 5100.
Nice video. I like the 265s. The 285s just seem too big. You can't go wrong with KO2's. I was surprised when you said the tires are not that good on wet paved roads.
Went from 265/70/17 LT General Grabber ATx to 285/70/17 E Mickey Thompson Baja Boss AT on my 2014 4Runner. I have an OME 3" lift so they fit. I did need to do some trimming on my front inner fender wells and remove the front mud flaps. Other than that they fit fine. The Generals weigh 47 pounds and the Mickey's weigh 63 pounds. I did lose about 2MPG but otherwise they ride and work better particularly off road...
I have 285 70-17 on my taco but I give you one word of advice make sure you have the correct lift for the tire size they will rub the front tires when you turn the wheels left to right been there done that had to go to downsize my tires to stock tires
One of the things I love about Chloe's takes is that they are always well reasoned so that even if you personally don't agree based on your own usage it completely makes sense why she did it and it gives a blueprint for others.
Awesome video Chloe. For now I went with 265 KO2's because I didn't want to do a lift right off the bat. I'd imagine in the future I may go 275 C-load tires or 285s. It's really hard to decide and from what I understand if you want to be able to use all 6 gears you'll need a re-gear and that's not cheap. Also, if you don't mind this coming a tiny bit early... it frickin' rocks you're about to cross 100k subs! No one deserves it more.
You need a regear with a 285?
When installing a tire to a vehicle that’s jack up , not too high from the ground. I learned you can put a long pry bar or extension under it to lift it up, it’s much easier than crunching over and lifting it or seating down. I learned that from truckers videos when they install those massive semi’s tire that are heavy af. It saves your back 👍
The 33s (285) are better if you want an extra inch of ground clearance for getting over off-road obstacles so the diff isn't scraping or getting hung up. The guys at 4WD 24-7 have a video called "31 v 33 v 35 inch Tyre Mega Test" and determined that 33s are perfect for a mid-sized truck and 35s are perfect for a full-sized truck. Getting maximum fuel mileage is fine for a street truck but with a 4x4 the priority is performance and puncture resistance. You can still get "good" gas mileage with the 6-cylinder because it isn't a gas-guzzling V8, and 33 inch (285) tires are not a huge increase in size over a 31 (265).
Thats only if you're willing to go down the rabbit hole of cab mount chop, viper cut, grinding down, regearing, etc. They might fit when you put them on and drive regular roads but once you start ofroading they'll rub like crazy as the suspension compresses in and out. Also, I've offroaded a lot for many years on moderate trails with 31 inch tires and have never scraped the diff. Most likely ifyou're on a trails that difficult that require 33 inch tires you'r also going to need front and rear steel bumpers and full underbody armor. 33's are just a money pit IMHO. I like 31's or 32's.
@@johnnytorres277 a gear change is a Great idea. I put 265/75/16 on my Tacoma and that's only one inch taller than the stock 245/65/16 tires and now my automatic transmission doesn't want to stay in 6th gear on the highway. I think 5.30 gears would be good for 33 inch tires
@Lunchbox Larry another project for the channel.
Zero offset wheels 255/80r17 4runner and 255/85r16 Tacoma is the easiest stock suspension 33's you can add to light Trucks and SUVs. minor rubbing easy adjustments works offroad as well.
@@silvrr2 yup and they are true 33s, get better mileage, and as I'm sure you are aware a tall skinny actual has more traction off road when air down in all but really deep sand or when you need float in deep snow. Even then, the physics of it actually shows that the contact patch overall surface area is essentially the same as a wider tire but in a longitudinal way vs. Across the tire. Sort of like a ski vs snowshoe. Both keep you on top of snow but achieve the surface area differently. Many channels have done a good job of showing the actual science behind the tall skinny being beneficial. I think most like the stance of 285s but I actually prefer the 255s in looks too. To each their own of course.
Funny, I just bought a brand new 2023 Tacoma TRD Off-Road last Friday and was stuck on this very same question. So I went to one of our local off-road shops out here in Albuquerque called "Desert Rat" and lucky for me, they were pretty knowledgeable on this. They said that mods were necessary for 285's and so what I did is I went with some Bilstein 5100 series shocks, Maxtrac 2.5 spacer kit, and some 265/75/R16 Toyo MT's and some aluminum aftermarket wheels. The new shocks will be more plush, allow me to level the vehicle while raising it just slightly, and the 265/75's will fit beautifully. It will be around 2.5-3 inches higher which will give me some decent gains in off-road capabilities but I won't really be sacrificing much in terms of power, on-road comfort, or gas mileage. I went with Toyo MT's because that's what I've been running on my FJ Cruiser (295's) since I bought it in 08. I get 55 thousand miles on them, they do great in all types of terrains, and even though they are MT's, they are radials and balance well. Great videos, keep em coming.
have you thought about going with 275/70/17's .. i have them on my 2nd gen . i downsized from the 285's and the rubbing issues went away.. have a decent lift (running Bilstein 6100, add a leaf for the rear, coilovers) about 2" lift . this set up works good for me. and i went with the 285's on my GX. since i use the tacoma as a daily, it hasn't killed my mileage and it's still fun to run easier off road trails . if your choice is between the 285's and 265's i'd go 285. but if you can, pick the 275's and have fun with them
Another great and informative video Chloe. I run 265/70 R17 Trail Grapplers on Forerunner TRD wheels. I considered going to 285’s but was told by many people that there would likely be rubbing at full turn and articulation. Not to mention requiring a BMC. I do have +/- 3” lift but didn’t want the potential hassle. I agree with many that 285’s would look great, but then again so would 35’s. One mod usually leads to the next.
Facts on the 35's.
Do u install diff drop mate?
@@markuran3152 I didn’t have to do the diff drop.
@@thomasw5003 how bout the cv angle?
Fun fact about about the BF goodrich they are on the smaller end in the same size as other brands. I found this out after putting them side by side a lot of brands. My toyo AT 2 Xtreme im running now in 35inch vs the 35 ko2 happens to be bigger
After doing some physics (approx. I = mr^2) the larger tires require 20-25% more torque to accelerate or decelerate when compared to the smaller tires. Which will also change when you add the wheels. That’s seems kinda significant though
She just upgraded the differential so a lack of torque is probably not a problem.
@@kalijasin either way it requires more torque, but with a regear, you may be right. She may not feel it
I just got these 285/70/17 ko2 on my 2021 ranger last week. Absolutely love them. Definitely a huge upgrade over stock tires especially in snowy, slushy Utah. They are definitely not cheap but absolutely worth every penny. Great vid!
Hi, my Tacoma trd offroad (2019) come with 265/70R16 , I buy one years use, and I change for 265/75 R16 just a little bit more high profile and I m very Happy. Before the Tacoma , I run FJ CRUISER 2011 for 10 years with 285/70 R17 with the FJ CRUISER, not problem to fit , you have more space for big tire... with stock suspension, I don't have the stock suspension on the FJ but they fit . For the Tacoma I m gonna put the ARB HEAVY DUTY SUSPENSION WITH THE ARB ARM control, but I m gonna stay with the 265/75R16.... this size are easier for the mechanic, for all the moving parts and for the millage ( I m Canadian gaz are way more expensive) . And this profile 75 are good for offroad, I run FALKEN WILDPEAK AT3W 10 ply, I like a lot we have a lot of Snow in my area and they are great.
Thank for you r video, you have a great TH-cam channel
I definitely love my 265/70r17 tires. No rubbing and no fuel loss. I just purchased Method 316 rims with 0 offset. Cannot wait for them to come in and get them on my Taco. Fell in love with Method rims after I saw them on your truck, thank you 👍😁
How has this set up been for you?
Love the K02's. I ran them for years off road, on road, and anywhere in between. Never had a puncture, never got stuck, and they are really good for low road noise. Great choice!
I just put 4 Toyo 265/70/17’s on my 2012 FJB Edition FJ Cruiser. Love them!! 😉 I would say that once you had the Toyos on your truck you will change your mind about the KO2’s!
265’s are your most economical smartest choice for off-road with your stock lift truck. 285’s pros: longer and wider footprint so better traction with slightly more ground clearance, looks cooler! Cons: heavier tire increases stopping distance, decreased fuel economy and robs power.
8:32 Running 4wd in the rain says it all. The new KO2 features a hard rubber that wears longer, but isn't worth a lick on wet pavement. They're a popular choice in the more arid, western states. I'm running Wildpeak AT3's in 255/80/r17. They're great in rain, snow, & hold their own off road. They're taller than 285's & weigh 52.5 lbs in load range E. No loss of power in my 6MT Nissan Frontier.
I run 255/80/R17. 33s but don't need any lift or trimming to fit them. Skinnier tires also do better in the snow.
I actually have been pretty impressed with the 265 stock Wranglers. When it comes time to replace though I'll likely get Toyo AT3's or Wildpeaks in 275. I mostly take forest roads and some snow here in the PNW , no mudding for me.
I’ve been really happy with the wildpeaks in 275. good on wet roads and not a lot of road noise would def recommend
Great video, I am also very satisfied with the stock wrangler tires and I do get out on forest service roads in all weather conditions but K02 in 265 will be my upgrade. I am also in the Pnw
The Toyos are really nice 👍
285🙏🙏🙏
@@brianweir6024 getting these bad boys next week - it is time!
I went with 265/75/16. Gave me a little more height than stock. Will not compromise as much gas mileage, although, it will still suffer some.
I am about to get a 3” lift and use 265/75/16 tires. How has your experience been with those tires?
I have 265/75 16s on a stock Tacoma. You don’t need the lift for that size.
@DavidIJ do u have a trd cause trds have lift
@DavidIJ have you gone offloading with them? And if so any rubbing?
@@Mr_Chicken314 no rubbing at all. It’s the only size that will fit without any mods to suspension. Great tire and vast improvement from the stock tires.
Oh I already know what your going with. My answer is 285/70/17 right! 😂 I knew it. You’ve already rocked the 265’s there’s zero reason to go that route again. You’re not worried about fuel consumption we all already know that. It’s nice but not the decision maker. You’ve already put a ton of $$ into your baby so a few more bucks isn’t going to stop you from the look you love. Also the functionality off road most definitely helps you make this decision. So thanks for your videos and sharing your love with us. Besides San Diego is beauty but we all know Chula Vista and other surrounding communities don’t have the best roads. I know I’m in California too. Now Florida… they got some beautiful roads. Ok thanks again! I know I’m right. Hahaaa
My two sons both have Tacoma’s!
Great video! In my opinion gears ARE DEFINITELY required for 285’s if you don’t want the truck to be gutless. If you regear there’s no reason to go 285’s… just go to 315’s. A small 35 is perfect for the 3rd gen.
Nah. Simple tune is enough for 285's. I have 285/75/17 and the truck feels like it has stock sized tires with a tune.
@@cobratuner you’re just used to it. If you put your stock tires/wheels back on it would feel like an absolute rocket. That’s the difference in having proper gearing. If you still have your stock set up throw them on and find out 👍
I think the 265 tires are great for people that don’t lift their trucks. If you’re already lifted it just makes sense to go up a size. Just keep off-roading and upgrade what you need as you go. I went rear bumper first after breaking, sliders after the predator steps broke, 3in lift/level stock control arms and then 285/75/R16s.
I have a 19 OR 6MT, the factory lower gearing helps turn my 285s better than the autos. If you’re planning on re gearing then go as big as you want! My current setup is the rough country 3in struts (front) and blocks/shocks (rear), stock control arms and leaf springs, 285/75/r16 Yokohama Geolander MTs, and 1.5in spidertrax hub centric wheel spacers. With my alignment set at 1.5 degrees of caster and removing mudflaps I do NOT rub at all! Full tuck and full steering lock she moves freely! Currently sitting at around 15/16mpgs at 40psi and a soft topper over the bed.
My next upgrade will probably be the method bead grip wheels and get the correct offset to ditch the spacers. If you get MTs I highly recommend the geolanders! But I think next time around I’m going to try out the wild peaks and see how they do. Hopefully with the less aggressive tread I’ll get back a few MPGs or even one will make me happy.
I think we are all hoping you go with the 285s! You’re already lifted with a better setup than a few of us, I’m sure you’ll love it and never go back!
Lift makes no difference when suspension articulation is significant. If you go off-roading, you WILL RUB when using 285mm wide or larger with or without a lift. You have to consider what happens when the truck is not driving on a perfectly flat and straight asphalt surface.
If you get tired of the ko2’s give the nitto ridge grapplers a try. They’re super quiet on the highway and have great traction Offroad. I always try to fit the largest tire with the least amount of lift
Agreed but $$$
Absolutely ridgegrapplers are my favorite tire! They ride so nicely!
Hello. I really appreciate your content. I think there is one minor error that might hang people up. You mentioned that the 265 is the stock tire size on a 3rd gen Tacoma. But you end up needing wheel size and the ratio number to get to the diameter. The 265/70R17 that you are talking about is 31.6" in diameter. My stock 2023 Tacoma TRD Off Road came with 265/70R16 (not 17) so it is a 30.6" diameter tire.
I went with Cooper STT PRO 265/75/16 on my Tacoma TRD PRO. 3,200 miles cross country on 285's was very expensive. They looked great but switched to 265.
Can I fit 33” Nitto Ridgrapplers on a stock 2019 TRD Pro or will 33” tires fit without trimming/rubbing? 285’s?
Depends on what you do with the truck. For off-road I always want the biggest tire that will fit under the truck. Bigger tires let you air down more and make big holes feel smaller. Doesn’t do you much good if you have giant tires that you can’t turn though. Went from 33’s to 35’s on my Silverado and the 35’s feel way better all around. Smooths out the small chop and take big hits better too.
Function over form is the way to go. Safety cannot be compromised. I 285 do you look more majestic but it’s gotta be to 265‘s for me.
I have 265 KO2's on my 4Runner. And I agree, in the rain, it is definitely not a good grip for the road. I slide a lot, and have to be very careful when taking turns. I also think my 265's are probably too small for the lift I have, and if I could afford the 285's, I would probably do those or 305's
275/70/17 with those rims look great! also the 5th tire fits in the spare slot under the bed!
I run the 265 ridge grapplers on my sport 4x4. The reason i chose both the sport and these tires is I don't do a whole lot of off road stuff. I'll ride in some grass and mud taking the dogs to the park and a few times a year go through some mountain trails to get to some cabins, but 98 percent of what i do is regular driving. The grapplers have performed well in Ice, snow, mountains and soft grass so far. I've not really tested them past this. They do pretty good in heavy rain puddles. I've heard people complain about their ability in rain but i haven't had any issues yet and i live in a place it rains a lot. I've been pleased with both the truck and tires/tire size. Plus the these tires give it a great look. I will probably do the same again when they need to be changed.
I would go with the 285 tires, also congrats on almost 100k subs!!
255/85/16 o' 255/80/17 KM2 . They are the best option , but they are little know , you have to investigate and you will see that they are the best features for your truck , it is the military configuration, they are light , tall but better maneuverable , personally I use them in my all terrain vehicles.
I just went up to 285/75R16 Ridge Grapplers and it gives my 2020 Tacoma such a beefier profile. I did 3”/1” Pro Comp Leveling Kit, the gas mileage is not as good but the look I was going for is completely worth it. I’m so glad that I stayed with the 16” wheel, all the rubber just looks outstanding in my opinion.
I had the same lift and tire size on a 2008 Tacoma.
The most expensive upgrade I done was a custom turbo system.
Did you re-gear?
@@joelbucy6507 negative
I have the exact same tire set up on my 21 Tacoma but did the Eibach stage 1 pro system lift. Gives me about 2 1/2 in the front. Rides great and looks even better. So glad I didn’t do 275/75r16 tires.
I went to 285/70 17 Ridge Grappler from the stock 265/ 70 16 and lost 5 mpg. My 17’s weighed 83 lbs where the stock 16’s weighed 46 lbs. The 285 on 16’s seems like a good compromise. Getting in and out is a bit harder of course with the 2 inch lift I got also.
Can I fit 33” Nitto Ridgrapplers on a stock 2019 TRD Pro or will 33” tires fit without trimming/rubbing?
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Tires seem to be a compromise. On my '17 Tacoma, I went from the stock Goodyear kevlars to Goodyear Duratracs, and stayed with the stock size 265/70x16. I probably lost 1mpg due to weight increase, but only ~40 lbs/tire from ~37 lbs. I'll likely go back to a lighter weight tire next time although my Duratracs have performed well off-road and in snow. I can't fore see going to a 50# K02. Good video btw. On my '03 Tacoma, the 40# Duractracs seem to be my limit for what the older lower powered '03 can acceptable-to-me drive/power/accelerate.
I have a 2020 TRD Off Road Tacoma, and I just put some KO2s on it. I went with 285/75 R16 because I love my stock wheels, but I wanted the 33" tires. I upgraded to a 3"/2" leveling kit for clearance and don't have any rubbing on body components. I am getting a bit of rub at full lock on the A arm, so I picked up some 1" wheel spacers. That should give me clearance from the suspension, and still keep me clear of the body at full lock. The 33s look amazing on the truck!!
1 INCH wheel spacers????!!! You should not run 1 inch wheel spacers.
@@bogotstogoskiing Should I go to 1.5"?
You should get new wheels. Lots of problems with spacers
so, i am currently on my second set of the BFG KO2 tires. i have a 3in lift in the front and somewhere close to 3.5 in the back. i ran 285/75/r16 tires (E Load) with a 1 inch wheel spacer. i had to do the pinch weld mod, and a cab mount chop and it still rubbed. that said, i loved them. granted i had a 15 minute commute to and from work. i regeared with nitro 4:88 gears and it felt like a different truck. it mitigated the loss in power and actually gave me some of my mileage back that i lost. once i changed jobs and, my 15 minute commute went to a 45-50 minute commute, i had to change them. like my fuel economy dropped drastically. i tried out the General Grabbers and while they were a decent tire, i had a front upper ball joint go and it ruined my tires. i went back to the 265s and im glad i did. i ran my 285's for about 70+ thousand miles and i never had an issue with them.
The stock gears are way too tall even with the stock tire size. You have to spin the 3.5 for power.
I run 285 Toyo RT tires. I have had great results running Toyos, they are heavy but I hats what makes them so durable!
Hello everyone. Reminder: "285 is not the tire/size or diameter=Important detail in the size of a tire/wheel in a car." Meaning of 285=Width of the tire in mm, the part that touches the road surface. It's possible to have a small or large diameter tire in width as follows: 285, 275, 265, 255, 235(mm) in different wheel sizes: 16", 17", 18", 30", etc... Diameter=Tire size=28", 29", 30", 31", 32", 33", 35", 49", etc...
285 = width / 70 = height (70% of width)
Tire type (Passanger)Section Width, Ratio, Rim Diameter, Speed Rating (T)
Offroaders take the biggest possible sidewall usually. So everybody is talking about maximum sidewall minimum rim size.
Bigger looks better with a lift and considering you do a fair amount of off-roading I’d say 285. I went with KO2 at 265/75/16 and think it’s perfect for stock.
i ran that size stock. it was perfect. Only rubbed a bit when at full flex and turned. I went to a 285/75/17 after I lifted.
You should also consider being about to carry around a full size spare. Will the 285 still fit under the bed? Or will you have to relocate the spare to the bed itself?
It fits…
Came here to say this or look for the answer 👍
I just replaced my BF Goodrich Ko2 tires with Maxxis Razr AT tires. Absolutely love my new tires.
I agree. Yeah the 285's look slightly better, but the negatives are too many....MPG goes down 1-2 mpg, potential rubbing issues, cost, etc. Great video, as usual, Chloe! You do a wonderful job with your channel :) I will pick up a 2024 Taco TRD OffRoad Premium very soon. Can't wait to see your new wheels once you pull the trigger!
Ive got a 2 in lift with 265/70/17 and i love the look!
On my 2016 taco I put 275/75/18 on my stock truck, no rubbing anywhere after about a week I finally did my 3” leveling kit
Best comparison video I've seen🤙🏼
Hi Chloe, I’m using the Falken Wildpeak 65/17 Tires I really like these tires. They handle very well.
Don't forget that the roads in California are always super slick during the rain season because of all the oil & stuff that accumulates during the rest of the dry season. There really isn't going to be any general purpose / AT tire suitable for that situation. Just have to drive slower and be a lot more cautious.
Great username, I love that movie Hackers
There’s been so much rain here in the last two weeks it’s sparse if minimal there any oil on the road is left. Speaking from experience.
@@TheShuey1234 true. But I don’t know when Chloe was experiencing the slick tires: when the rain started or several weeks into it.
It's not all about oil and stuff on Cali roads. Most highway sections are made of concrete, and they don't absorb water as great as asphalt.
Ko2s are not the beat in the rain, there are better ATs for that
My Silverado's got 255/70R17 General Grabbers as stock and they're only 32lbs. I was going to go to a 285/75R17 Yokohama A/T tire, but they're 60lbs! I'm pretty sure a 28lb per tire increase would be felt in the gas pedal, handling, and MPG. I want to go bigger, but might settle on a 265 or 275 to save weight. It's a full size truck, so visually it can certainly handle a larger tire.
When my factory tires wear out I’m going with Faulken Wildpeaks for the type of terrain that we live in here in the PNW
Perhaps Chloe could do a vid of her driving through all the California water with these tires?
Kenda Klever RT is my favorite tire so far. I’ve ran BFG ko2, TOYO mt, and Kenda mt2.
Just recently went with 255/75R17 KO2s on my 07 taco, would’ve gone with 255/80 but they don’t make the KO2 in that size and I get big discounts on BFG tires. I really wish they made the KO2 in a 33x10 or 33x10.5
275/70/17 best tire size
32.2 inches !!!
A droop setup on Tacoma’s is the way to go. Extended travel setup that lets the wheels hang down more with minimal lift (1”-1.5”). This let’s you keep the center of gravity low while being able to get over the same obstacles.
I get poor traction w/ KO2 here in the Seattle with my V8 4Runner, I’ve tried BFG, Nitto, falken and Toyos both ATs and MTs. For me the best ones were Toyos AT3s, will try Baja Boss ATs nx time.
Like your videos. If you're into offroading, then go with the 285's and regear to a 5.29. You'll appreciate getting the power back after putting the 285's on, pick up 1 - 1.5mpg and your truck won't be screaming at you going uphills trying to find a gear.
Ott tune
285 all the way, i have 275 KO2 on my 2020, looks great, but my next set is definitely 285’s. Good luck❤
I’m going to assume 285s are the decision that was made, but my vote is for 265s. Big tires are overrated and offer far more cons than pros, in my opinion at least.
Also, in rain you’re better off with 265 than 285. The only thing wider does is make you more likely to hydroplane. Yes, you have more rubber on the ground with 285s but that actually works against you as it creates more surface area for the water to lift you up and hydroplane. The skinnier tire cuts down to the road better and is more likely to retain traction.
don't go too big unless you have adequate lift and bumper, 285's will fit with no issues on your rig. I have 2.5 lift , plate bumper and cabin mount chop, I got 35's but I don't like them that much, they look great but not fun busting a U or making sharp turns (think about them drivethru trips) and extra weight = more wear and tear and it adds a decent amount of weight which will make your already crappy mileage even worse
I have Maxxis Razr MT they have held up pretty good so far, I have lots of experience running Hankook DynaPro MT's and Toyo Open Country MT and never had an issue with either. If money weren't a factor I would just splurge and go with Toyo Open Country, but for the value and price point I think Hankook DynaPro is where it's at.
Tires are one thing I would NEVER go cheap on
I installed the Hankook Dynapro AT2 Xtreme 265 70 17 with new 17 inch wheels on my TRD off Road. The issue going to the 17 is that it is like changing the gearing, making the truck shift more than when stock. Next time I am going with a 265 65 17, which will bring it back to a stock size while still using the 17 inch wheels. I have had KO2's before, but the Hankook Dynapro AT2 Xtreme are much quieter.
All of us Toyota followers of yours should meet to 4x4 around. My 2018 Toy 4x4 is my 5th Toy. Love em. Decked out with cool stuff.
The best "get to the point video ever".
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Chloe - CONGRATULATIONS on hitting 100K!!! I 🫡 you. Keep doing what you're doing 👍 Rich
Congratulations on the first 100.000 subscribers 👍
I have a 22 Taco oR I would Stick with the 265 way less rolling resistance i out ran a guy with his 285 lifted Taco truck 😂 Going steep uphill the 265 really shine 😊
Thanks for mentioning the ko2 wet weather performance. I live in the pnw and went to a falken at3 for better on road performance.
Should give the new Mickey Thopson Baja Boss A/T a go one of these days. They perform way better in rain/snow than the K02 and have a super aggressive tread pattern for a A/T, looks almost like a M/T.
Chole... I have a 2018 Tacoma SR5 and I'm running a set of Hancook AT tires, they do OK here in Colorado with snow. Since it is my only vehicle I don't go off road unless I have too. My biggest issue with these tires is the excessive road noise. When I bought the truck it had highway tires on it and three days after buying the truck it snowed. Needless to say the highway tires got swapped out very quickly. The highway tires still had plenty of tread so I kept them and later found a set of TRD rims used that were in excellent shape to mount the highway tires on. I swap them out based on the season so hopefully both sets will last a few more years. Do the BFG KO2's have a lot of road noise? I used to have a 2000 Tundra and ran Bridgestone EVO Dualers on it, they were good in snow and on wet pavement but they don't make them in a size to fit my Tacoma. The Bridgestone EVO Dualers were not too bad on road noise but the the Tundra was much quitier than this Tacoma.
I have 285 and they shredded the all the plastics under the front wheel wells😆 from off roading
I've had both. The on road performance/fuel mileage is much better with the 265/75 R16 than the 285 and don't rub like the 285. Not much difference in off-road performance. About an inch of clearance.
Agree. I had 285/75/16 and downsized to 265/75/16. Let’s be honest about how most people use their truck. The 265’s just have way more advantages, still look great with a small lift.
The aspect ratio is another important part of the numbers in the tire size. A 265/75 is taller (larger diameter) than a 265/70. Another popular size for the Tacoma is the 255/85/16. It’s as tall as the 285/75 but not as wide.
Awesome video. Great explanation of the wheels setups.
I was tossed also and decided on a 275/70/17 and as someone who’s been a lifer BFG guy I switched to the Falken in a C load range.
Agree...I hydroplane easy it feels. I have the same BF Goodrich All Terrains as you.
I run the ko2’s on both Tacoma and ram 2500 and really don’t have a problem in the rain here in Michigan. Fantastic all around tire.
Good to know, I run ridge grapplers, 265 70 17, the back end gets pretty slippery in any kind of wet or ice. Enough to scare me and I drive a lot slower. I didn’t like it.
I have a jeep wrangler and have the same tire and I have no problem in the rain either here in minnesota. In fact at my brother's cabin it's 20 to 30 percent grade to get up his driveway and I had no problem getting up it with about 2 inches or so of slushy snow with the 4wd engaged.
why does the 265 look way bigger pls help me figure this one out
I highly recommend getting New Tires to get Balanced and Mounted Professionally.
RoadForce Balancing is about $250 for 5 tires. But it makes a big difference in how the truck drives. I have installed my own tires for 15 years and when I did the balancing rims\tires it drastically improved driving and steering performance
i have the 275/70/17. Best of both worlds.
Do you think a 275/70r17 with 17x8.5 0mm offset would fit with no lift?
Go for 285’s. The off-road performance and look are great.
I ran 265 on my yota and I ran them for a while. I installed a 3.5 inch lift kit so the 265 looked funny with the stock rims so I installed a 0 offset rim with 285 they are perfect..... Does rub on full articulation but if you plan to be on the highway no worries... I actually think the transmission runs a little bit smoother
285 and 265 are the WIDTH, in millimeters. The overall diameter is also dependent on the rim size and the profile.
Flotation tire sizing is more straightforward than metric.
If you decide to go with the larger size, is there anyway to re-calibrate your speed/mileage readings?
I’d be more worried about the reduction in performance. The Taco 3.5 is underpowered in stock form. I can’t imagine the performance with 33s. It would be dangerously slow.
Yeah there is, Hypertech and Rough Country (I think those are the only two options) sell an inline calibrator. You have to program it with your stock tire size and the new tire size and then plug it in behind the dash where it stays. I just put one in my 2022 TRD off road after going to 275/70R18 K/O2's. It takes a little bit of fine tuning to get it just right since very minor changes in the tire size will still throw off the readings, but it comes with a long usb cord than you can leave on it and run behind the dash and down by the electrical panel to update it until you get it where you want it. Not sure of the Hypertech model, but the program to update the RC model requires a windows computer.
I run the 285's on my 4Runner and it works awesome and looks killer with 2 1/2'' lift.
Hi Chloe , Jay from SWF I tried the 265/65/17 KO2s but I put 2” blocks on the rear and Fox 2.0 on rear and Fox 2.0 adjustable on the front , I went with Mickey Thompson Baja Legend 275/70/17 I Frigging love em. Great I wet and sand. / not much snow in Naples FL😎. Best choice ever $1380 M/ B/ out the door ❤❤
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If I remember you have a 3:1 lift on your Taco. I'd go with the 285's as long as there's no rubbing issues that can't be adjusted by cutting back the frame where needed..
Great video Chloe 👍. 🐕 Cameo 😃. 100,000! ♥️🌮🐶🐾
I’m running the BFG KO2s 285/70r17s, including the matching spare which fits fine. I also have the Ironman stage 2 nitro lift. Rides smooth, no rub. Mpg will drop though.
My guess you will mount the 285 tires. I would advise calibrating the speedometer for the taller tire. Adjusting the gear ratio in the differentials may return some of the fuel economy with a hit to your torque. Awesome discussion!
I took my girl's advice she compared it to using heel it's roughy but looks better and I agree 285s look good thanks for the vid Chloe
Should go Falken Wildpeak. No hydroplaning issues. I don't care how good a tire is off road if you are hydroplaning when it rains that's a huge no.
Are the KO3's out yet in those sizes? If not, they should be by next year. Depending on rubbing issues and mileage I would go the the 265 or 275/70/17. Yes, once you go to larger, heavier tires it seems like more and more other components are impacted. I have some KO2s on my 2004 Tacoma in 245/75/16 and was thinking of whether to go with the same in KO3 or consider a Toyo 235/80/16. Just not sure I want to have to do additional mods to this truck as it is all original except for the Bilsteins 5100.
Nice video. I like the 265s. The 285s just seem too big. You can't go wrong with KO2's. I was surprised when you said the tires are not that good on wet paved roads.
KO2’s are known not to be great on wet pavement. It’s by far their biggest downside
I agree, my 2012 came with ko2' s and on take off they spin like a MF
Toyota just needs to make 33” tires stock and upgrade the truck to fit and drive well with them!
Bigger is better 😄
If you don't do any serious off-roading you don't need the 285 tires, especially in a LT as they're too heavy 4 highway use on a midsize vehicle.
Went from 265/70/17 LT General Grabber ATx to 285/70/17 E Mickey Thompson Baja Boss AT on my 2014 4Runner. I have an OME 3" lift so they fit. I did need to do some trimming on my front inner fender wells and remove the front mud flaps. Other than that they fit fine. The Generals weigh 47 pounds and the Mickey's weigh 63 pounds. I did lose about 2MPG but otherwise they ride and work better particularly off road...
You should go with 35’s in the BF Goodrich KO2! I love them!
I have 285 70-17 on my taco but I give you one word of advice make sure you have the correct lift for the tire size they will rub the front tires when you turn the wheels left to right been there done that had to go to downsize my tires to stock tires