I have a 1980 oldsmobile delta 88 2door coupe and it had the half vintly top in the back of the car.Replaced it twice after the factory top which was much stronger than the new ones I purchased went bad.I was lucky, not hardly any rust on that part of the top when I took off the last one.Then I just sanded primed the top and painted it the color the vinyl top was ,Autumn maple red.,Then black later on..Look pretty good.
@@jeffdecker8490 all you need to do is spray base coat with hardener since the the only purpose of clear coat is for shine and uv light protection so the base doesn’t get damage, but if you’re just putting vinyl on top of it, it’s safe to say just spray base coat with hardener.
@@VaibFormers thx for the info. Was curious if clear coat added any extra moisture protection but guessing base shouldn't let moisture permeate through to primer then to metal. Make sense an appreciate it. Was just working on car today getting roof prepped and started on sanding.
It all depends how good it was prepped in the first place and how long it sits outside. I have a 70 Impala and there was barely any rust at all under mine and I plan on redoing it
If the car is going to be kept in the garage all of its life and never driven in the rain it will not rot out,but most people who own a car want to drive it,not sit in the garage and look at it. I personally hate the way vinyl roofs look and I hate what they do to the metal of the car
I am redoing one and I have almost the same problems a little bit less rusted because the area where I live is less humid what I am going to do since the surface is not going to be exposed it's always going to have vinyl I am going to put a coat of urethane this will do two things seal and protect the roof of the car and this will also allow the adhesive to adhere better
Like with anything that is not taken proper care of, it weathers and things like this can happen. I have replaced many vinyl tops over the years and most that were properly stored and taken care of are in good condition. If you don't have a garage available to store it out of the sun and weather don't purchase it. Just like convertibles these are not cars for everyone to own. They require attention and not everyone is willing to do that.
Great information. Might as well take off the vinyl top on the 68 goat. Taking the car from Michigan to Alabama so it should be way more free of immediate rust or surface rust
I totally agree..should be outlawed! Restored a 69 El Camino...the roof was totally pitted / rusted so bad you could poke an awl clear through...hence replaced whole roof skin, which meant installing a new headliner. Some guys take body filler, not the right way...just saying...go hard top...
Hi dont mind me just your local teenager who knows nothing about cars. Is there anything to cover a vinyl top if you absolutely have nowhere to store the car?
I HATE vinyl roofs. They look stupid (the car ISNT a convertible and convertibles look hideous with the top up anyway) and the rust the hell out of the roof. It amazes me that people will pull a vinyl roof off of a car and see the immense amount of damage that it’s caused go through all the effort of repairing it and then put another damn vinyl roof back on again. What the hell is wrong with you guys? Paint the roof like the rest of the car. There’s a reason cars didn’t have vinyl roofs in the 50’s and why they don’t have them now.
My 73 buick century with factory installed vinyl, acually had som layer on top to protect the steel underneth. Some kind of aluminium or someting else. We could not weld in it
Hey there, just found your video. Maybe someone here can help me. I recently bought a 79 Caprice and want to remove the vinyl roof. Do I have to take out the windshield and the rear window for removing it? I'd be happy for an answer. Cheers
@@carguysnewengland thanks for the quick response. Yeah, I heard a lot of horror stories about it and watch you video, I guess mine doesn't look better😅
My 1969 Chevelle Malibu has a vinyl top and there is rust bubbling under the vinyl, and there is some rust in other areas around the cab. I'll be doing the interior soon, and then talking to the body/paint guy, see if he wants to make another $10-$12K off me
I'm living in a moist climate area . And i really would like to import a car , so i probably should find a car without vinyl top :P Btw i would like to find a 67 firebird or a 70-72 chevelle :)
Fuck, I'm installing one on a Mark Five Lincoln. The only difference is, I'm making this one from scratch. Usually I install the ready made tops but this time I decided to make it from scratch. Unfortunately, I forgot to crown the front and rear part of the top and that proved to be a disaster. I also used 1/4 inch closed cell foam instead of the 1/8th. ...lol...lol... Vinyl tops are a pain in the ass. You have to rip the rear part of the interior out just to get to the opera windows and that urethane goo they line the channel with looks awesome when you get it on your hands. That shit makes a mess. This one is a 72. I heard they're worth more. This guy that owns this car is a nice guy and he's paying me good money so I'm gonna do this motherfucker over again. This is however the last one. These Lincoln's are the land sharks of the seventies. Ugly as fuck and they get terrible gas mileage. Nothing on these cars is easy to work on. If you keep your car protected from the elements, this usually doesn't happen. But then who the fuck does that? My other problem was the fact that it got really cold in the shop and vinyl is hard to manipulate if the room is too cold, even with a heat gun, and of course I'm old now and have more difficulty pulling. It's funny, when my pop died I was stuck with three of these Lincoln's. I gave one to my buddy for watching my crop and then traded the other two for a pound of kill-kill and never looked back. I couldn't give these cars away. Nobody wanted them. These Lincoln's are nothing more than an aerodynamic brick. Two more cups of coffee and I'm going back in. I hate this car. GRRRRRRRRRR......
Yeah the vinyl top ain't 4 everybody, just us pimpz n playaz LOL
most vinyll tops were never taken care of like the rest of the car . Glad mine always had a shed .
I have a 1980 oldsmobile delta 88 2door coupe and it had the half vintly top in the back of the car.Replaced it twice after the factory top which was much stronger than the new ones I purchased went bad.I was lucky, not hardly any rust on that part of the top when I took off the last one.Then I just sanded primed the top and painted it the color the vinyl top was ,Autumn maple red.,Then black later on..Look pretty good.
Make sure you paint the roof before you put a new top on.. Helps prevent further rusting...
You got that right brother.
Do you just use base coat or does it need clear coat as well?
@@jeffdecker8490 all you need to do is spray base coat with hardener since the the only purpose of clear coat is for shine and uv light protection so the base doesn’t get damage, but if you’re just putting vinyl on top of it, it’s safe to say just spray base coat with hardener.
@@VaibFormers thx for the info. Was curious if clear coat added any extra moisture protection but guessing base shouldn't let moisture permeate through to primer then to metal. Make sense an appreciate it. Was just working on car today getting roof prepped and started on sanding.
It all depends how good it was prepped in the first place and how long it sits outside. I have a 70 Impala and there was barely any rust at all under mine and I plan on redoing it
If the car is going to be kept in the garage all of its life and never driven in the rain it will not rot out,but most people who own a car want to drive it,not sit in the garage and look at it.
I personally hate the way vinyl roofs look and I hate what they do to the metal of the car
hmm, thank you for posting this. I was considering a vinyl top for a custom van. this gives me another perspective to consider.
If you live in a moist climate and store the car outside I would never recommend a vinyl top
I am redoing one and I have almost the same problems a little bit less rusted because the area where I live is less humid what I am going to do since the surface is not going to be exposed it's always going to have vinyl I am going to put a coat of urethane this will do two things seal and protect the roof of the car and this will also allow the adhesive to adhere better
Question what did you do to the top when you restored it?
They do. Can't wait to get rid of this top on my '68 Pontiac. Bubbling everywhere goin on
Like with anything that is not taken proper care of, it weathers and things like this can happen. I have replaced many vinyl tops over the years and most that were properly stored and taken care of are in good condition. If you don't have a garage available to store it out of the sun and weather don't purchase it. Just like convertibles these are not cars for everyone to own. They require attention and not everyone is willing to do that.
Great information. Might as well take off the vinyl top on the 68 goat. Taking the car from Michigan to Alabama so it should be way more free of immediate rust or surface rust
Right on brother
Was considering a 2000 town car with insanely low miles but after seeing this and a few other landau removal video that's a pass for me
I totally agree..should be outlawed!
Restored a 69 El Camino...the roof was totally pitted / rusted so bad you could poke an awl clear through...hence replaced whole roof skin, which meant installing a new headliner.
Some guys take body filler, not the right way...just saying...go hard top...
Hi dont mind me just your local teenager who knows nothing about cars. Is there anything to cover a vinyl top if you absolutely have nowhere to store the car?
This makes me nervous as hell. I'm about to get the vinyl top replaced on my '88 Brougham.
Just curious on how you made out? I've got pretty much the same vehicle.
@@dm7097 must have given him a hearts attack.
Got rust bulges and leakage beneath the vinyl top on my 75 Cutlass. Hopefully it's not as bad as this.
Majority of cars with vinyl tops are pushing 40- 50 years old and aren't driven in rain and snow anymore. Top rust shouldn't be an issue.
I HATE vinyl roofs. They look stupid (the car ISNT a convertible and convertibles look hideous with the top up anyway) and the rust the hell out of the roof. It amazes me that people will pull a vinyl roof off of a car and see the immense amount of damage that it’s caused go through all the effort of repairing it and then put another damn vinyl roof back on again.
What the hell is wrong with you guys? Paint the roof like the rest of the car. There’s a reason cars didn’t have vinyl roofs in the 50’s and why they don’t have them now.
That’s what I’m doing with my cutlass, ripped the top off and not looking back. I live in a dry place with a garage, still not gonna put one on.
Honestly dude, I don't understand why you think that roof is beyond hope. Just sand it down
Do all these tops like this end up rusting? Even if you get car wash all the time
In the rust belt states yes absolutely
I have a vinyl top on my 72 Lincoln and it has surface rust underneath
My 73 buick century with factory installed vinyl, acually had som layer on top to protect the steel underneth. Some kind of aluminium or someting else. We could not weld in it
Do you have pictures of it?
Hey there,
just found your video. Maybe someone here can help me.
I recently bought a 79 Caprice and want to remove the vinyl roof.
Do I have to take out the windshield and the rear window for removing it?
I'd be happy for an answer.
Cheers
niggooo you should be able to remove it by just removing trim. But prepare yourself for what’s underneath
@@carguysnewengland thanks for the quick response.
Yeah, I heard a lot of horror stories about it and watch you video, I guess mine doesn't look better😅
It can be grinded off u really dont have to cut it off. Grind the rust off an patch the wholes an soft spots with fiberglass an body foam
mike west there are holes
@@carguysnewengland yeah fill them with sprey body foam an reinforce wit fiberglass closs an resin
@@carguysnewengland no need to cut off the trunk
That’s not the proper way
@@Cen805coasT If you are planning on keeping the car, it doesn’t matter. Patch it.
My 1969 Chevelle Malibu has a vinyl top and there is rust bubbling under the vinyl, and there is some rust in other areas around the cab.
I'll be doing the interior soon, and then talking to the body/paint guy, see if he wants to make another $10-$12K off me
This? Bad? I have CaptainCrunch for a roof.
Paahhk yah cah in the garahhge next time!
Im about to remove my vinyl top also off my 84 caprice cuz i dnt wnt my roof to rust n I personally like hardtop ova vinyl any day
Yung Tatt3d how ya roof look g im in same boat and need new roof panel
Charlie Wall a lil rust bt nt alot i wnt kno hw bad it is til i gt it sanded dwn
Im lost af n mfers in my city aint replying back...might have to drive to tampa to get my shit right smh
I kno how that is hopefully u gt ur ride rite
Wow!
I'm living in a moist climate area . And i really would like to import a car , so i probably should find a car without vinyl top :P Btw i would like to find a 67 firebird or a 70-72 chevelle :)
you better have 25-35 grand
p2ych0[FR] great taste
Fuck, I'm installing one on a Mark Five Lincoln. The only difference is, I'm making this one from scratch. Usually I install the ready made tops but this time I decided to make it from scratch. Unfortunately, I forgot to crown the front and rear part of the top and that proved to be a disaster. I also used 1/4 inch closed cell foam instead of the 1/8th. ...lol...lol... Vinyl tops are a pain in the ass. You have to rip the rear part of the interior out just to get to the opera windows and that urethane goo they line the channel with looks awesome when you get it on your hands. That shit makes a mess. This one is a 72. I heard they're worth more. This guy that owns this car is a nice guy and he's paying me good money so I'm gonna do this motherfucker over again. This is however the last one. These Lincoln's are the land sharks of the seventies. Ugly as fuck and they get terrible gas mileage. Nothing on these cars is easy to work on. If you keep your car protected from the elements, this usually doesn't happen. But then who the fuck does that? My other problem was the fact that it got really cold in the shop and vinyl is hard to manipulate if the room is too cold, even with a heat gun, and of course I'm old now and have more difficulty pulling. It's funny, when my pop died I was stuck with three of these Lincoln's. I gave one to my buddy for watching my crop and then traded the other two for a pound of kill-kill and never looked back. I couldn't give these cars away. Nobody wanted them. These Lincoln's are nothing more than an aerodynamic brick. Two more cups of coffee and I'm going back in. I hate this car. GRRRRRRRRRR......
Find a donor car...in a salvage yard. Not what you want to hear, but this is bad.
William Birnbaum 2:22 a
Mint roof
@@carguysnewengland the quarters are the real bitch doing the roof is quite easy especially if your going to re wrap it