I just wanted to leave a message for you - I've been into PC's for more than 28 years, and have built dozens of PC's (probably close to 200) - and came across this gem of a channel. You are a great communicator and obviously have the passion for PC's - and you also watch out for the consumer - ensuring people that are new to the game don't get ripped off. That's what sets you apart from others - you actually care about people spending their money wisely - please never change. Love your channel and will be watching your videos as they come up. Big kudos and warm regards from Canada - Chris.
Love the video just bought a FTW 3 Black RTX 3090ti for $1099 from Newegg I remember you mentioning this back when so I was looking for this exact video
Just did the exact same as well. I always buy the lowest bin version for this exact reason, plus I normally watercool so can usually easily hit the higher clocks on the more expensive models. Paying for the “better” version is for fools. Also, I apparently have one of the only RTX 3080 XC3 Black cards ever made, got lucky in the queue way back in October of 2020, ordered it, and I have only seen a couple of others in the wild since then.
I always wondered what I might be missing because I would always get the most affordable card but was able to clock it higher than more expensive ones consistently. This doesn't look like I'm missing out on anything other than keeping my money with me which is awesome! Thank you for this video
I read in an overclock forum, that somene flashed the ultllra bios in a black one, without any issues, would be nice if you test that and make a tutorial
@@BrillianceAutoSpa slightly higher default boost speeds that's about it. Possibly a pre-req to flashing the XOCv2 since that was intended only for the Ultra cards
My MSI RTX 3080 Ventus 3X OC has always had thermal issue with it. Even after replacing the thermal pads and thermal paste, the card can still get over 70 degrees under load. The Vram temps are much better now, but the coolers on the Ventus models absolutely suck.
Was just looking at the EVGA 3070 XC3 Black at $580, ends up being $630 at checkout with tax and shipping. In this case it actually is different from the higher end versions because it does not have a backplate. I don't care a lot about that. Do you think it's a good buy in the current market? I would like a 3060 TI for cheaper, and I can get a 3070 TI for $700, but then with tax and shipping it's much more. Any thoughts? Thanks for the great video!
Generally the coolers are better on the higher models if not wanting to water cool, the 3090TI I guess is the exception with its higher TDP. Also some don’t want to shunt mod and some models come with less power connectors other then the 3090TI. Got the blower cooler power color 5700XT spent extra to water cool it. Got the 3080FTW3 just added more pads etc to the backplate Got the 3090 KPE, did the HC conversion and MP5 works If you dont want to mod it and the power and cooler options are different then a higher model maybe a better choice for the average person. I think I would have been happy with the 5700XT Red Devil.
My dumbass will still probably buy the "ultra OC edition" for the 40 series just cause im an idiot lol but your completely right no difference between black and ultra in regards to chip binning. My guess on the no markings thing is that they only did it woth the first runs of the card. In the GN video when steve got evga on the phone, the guy said theyre only marking chips for the first run.
I agree, I have a 3090ti ftw3 ultra and it does not exceed 2175, and I have seen several blacks that make 2205, they have scammed us 200 dollars more because yes.
hi, under € 350 what is the motherboard that barricades / limits less the (high) frequencies of the DDR5 RAM? With the highest maximum frequency limit of the RAM, which supports the highest possible frequency in OC pushed DDR5 (with top-of-the-range CPU and RAM working at higher frequencies than those generally supported by the Z690 mobos, which therefore in this case could represent a limit and block / run RAM and CPU at a lower frequency than the max they could reach, unless we are talking about Asus Apex or very expensive mobos), then mobo that does not impose a frequency limit on CPU and RAM and letting them work at their high frequencies. I foresee in the future to probably put an i7-13900K (keeping the same mobo) so the only thing I need is that it is a model of mobo that lets CPU and RAM work at very high frequencies without barricading and not limiting CPU and RAM to the limit frequency of the mobo. With high max frequency limit (the one indicated by the manufacturers in the data sheets), but above all true in a real scenario, because I see that in the data sheets some models have indicated 5333MHz, others 6000MHz, but some say that all mobos with 4 DIMM / slot RAM barricade / limit all to 6400MHz (frequency of ddr5, even if these and the CPU could theoretically work in OC even at a little more than 6400MHz), hoping that this is not true, I am looking for a mobo suitable for OC pushed RAM, the goal is to try to bring even more mature ddr5 banks that I will buy in the future (with 13900k having better IMC and SA) at the highest achievable frequency, perhaps between 6500 and 7000MHz.
@@HyFlexx hi sorry i meant to respond last week. I actually just finished the build about 2 weeks ago. Had some car issues i had to take care of. But I’ve only had a few times to play with it so far. The video card is great and runs cool. I over clocked it in the traditional sense. Raised power limit and bumped up core clocks and memory. I’ve ran some benchmarks. Played several matches in call of duty 2022. It sure does draw a lot of power @291+ watts. Next i will under volt and over clock the gpu. But with my cpu i went with the i5-13600k. Upgraded from the i5-4690k. What a difference in performance. But the thermals are pretty high. I’m using the nhd15. So I’ve been racking my brain on the best way to approach the under volt and or power throttle the power cpu. I find it so stupid that mobo manufactures are setting the stock values for voltage to the max. I’ve been researching all week about the new technology that I’m unfamiliar with in comparison with my old mobo/cpu. At the same time I’m pricing out some aio coolers that way i can just over compensate for the extra heat.
So I guess I should go with tuf 3080 12g rather than strix 3080 12g? But if I shunt mod my tuf card will 2x8 pins will be enough or will i risk blowing my card?
Problem with my Gigabyte 3080 Eagle is that it has locked power limit in the vBIOS, so I can't go either than 1905MHz whatever the chip could actually do...
Kingpin is meant for ln2. Likely would do better than the others on that cooling. Back when you could check asic quality in GPUZ it was always the high score cards that clocked like crazy on air or water but the low score (60-70) that would beat ln2 records.
This is exactly why I try to buy b stock cards. I got my EVGA rtx 3070 ftw3 ultra almost a year ago around 400 dollars USD and free shipping from EVGA. Before they ran out of them they were around 600 for b stock. Great video I learned a lot.
I heard the xc3 ultra and black had power draw problems and you pretty much had to undervolt. I had an order placed yesterday and canceled it. I currently have a 3070ti FE. I’m thinking of ordering a ftw3 today. This video may change my mind tho.
It seems that as we go forward the lowest models make even more sense as with the manufacturers now jacking the power up absurd amounts to extract a very limited amount of additional performance that undervolting is now the most popular course taken by many users to the higher end card for cooler temps, less power consumption with at times a very large power decrease which only results in minimum performance loss that the higher end cards are even more irrelevant now than maybe in the past with certain models of cards.
hello my computer is with MSI RTX 3080 Ti gaming X Trio. Ryzen 7 5800x, 32gb ram, 1300w and my Fps is from 90 to 150 with my previous video card I had 170 it was RTX 2070 please help me
I am no expert but that could from thermal throttling. The 30 series heats up quickly and even though it can handle the heat, it will throttle to maintain temps.
I thought 3080 FTW3 Ultra has bigger PCB, Cooler, and three 8 pin power connectors than Black version. How come 3090Ti has no big different and cost $199 more ??? Even 3080 Black and Ultra has just $20~$50 different but make huge different on almost everything !!! so 3090Ti FTW3 Ultra is a big scam !!! EVGA you need to drop down 3090Ti FTW3 Ultra price or your company will go down soon !!!
Yeah in the past or with other models it is always bigger heatsink and or additional power connectors with higher power limits with the FTW3/Ultra editions. The 3090ti is an outlier in this regard.
Do NOT want to pay $200 so the AIB can add +15-45Mhz to a simple curve (the same as you applying a +15-45Mhz offset). AIB's just add their tiny +30Mhz to the curve and charge extra to normies who think its BINNED!
after this video i decided to go for the EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 Ti FTW3 Black Gaming, 24G-P5-4981-KR, 24GB GDDR6X, iCX3, ARGB LED, Backplate, Free eLeash for 1099 vs the EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 Ti FTW3 Ultra Gaming, 24G-P5-4985-KR, 24GB GDDR6X, iCX3, ARGB LED, Backplate, Free eLeash which was 1400, and the only difference i could find was the clock speed of like 100 ish MHz
Im borrowing a EVGA 3080 Ti FTW3 ULT 12gb LHR to possibly replace my awesome gigabyte 3080 gaming OC LHr.. I had the opportunity to trade up for FREE soo im going for it iF i can get a better boost and temp's. BTW the gigabyte isnt bad at all 2150hz 110+mem OC ''pretty stable ex. occasional freeze during benching just I dont want to hard mod it as the 3080 TI has more headroom for the same price i paid for the gigabyte ($750)
I think visually the difference was going to be the regular ftw3 was going to have the red accent at the end and the ftw3 black was going to be black. But because people hated the red because it looked like clown lips I think evga just made them all black. I could be wring but that's all i could think of why they had one called black edition.
This one probably doesn’t apply as much, since there is no other models, but I have a 3090 FE 2220 on air. Although, from what I know there is a 550-600ish power limit even with a shunt mod, so it’s possible to hit power limit and not be able to sustain such a clock if playing 4K in some games.
if you're bypassing the measuring Resistors there is no limit. the Card won't know how much Power it's pulling so it can't limit itself. that's literally the entire point of Powermodding - the Card can't stop you using more Power.
@@taiiat0 There is an unshuntable power limit on the card from what I've read on the 90FE models at 550-600W, I believe that card hits NVVDD/MSVDD current limits, but I have not done the shunt mod myself though & can't confirm. From various forms though generally everyone has hit this limit, but except maybe two people I've read...This problem also seems to be 90FE exerpience that AIBs don't hit due to being able to flash bios or different bios parameters in general.
I learned this with my 2080ti ftw3 it was a piece of crap. Even that the cooler was bigger than the other models my vram temps were very high and the core oced really bad.
In my case I have 2 3080 amp holo from zotac and both have higher bin in memory (+1900 and +2100mhz) and one of them reaches 2300mhz on core clock meanwhile my ftw3 ultra can barely reach 2230mhz on core clock and +1400mhz on memory.... what a moneygrab pfff
That is not true you pay for someone to actually test the card and manually write on the pcb the clock because extra time was taken for this test this is what you pay for.
There is so much wrong with this. I guess dual bios, external fan headers, higher out of the box clocks (most people don't tune) and better coolers that do cool better (more heat pipes) that is a fact and probable with real testing methodology and RGB lighting should all be thrown in for free but if non of that matters then yeah get the cheaper one without all that but some people want those things and will pay for it but to say there is no difference between them is obviously wrong.
@@SKHYJINX I have a 1440 @ 240 Mhz 1Ms 27 '[ Good advice, And buy an Nvidia, no other brand ] and adjust it yourself to your wishes, such as water cooling etc
@@zappulla4092 the dude above needs to buy better audio instead of bitching lol but it's his choice of what and also his supporters tell him what people want if your not following lol and he listens Soo give him money he will do it duh he doesn't get much on TH-cam lol this is for PC normies he has jobs outside of TH-cam and most of his money is from supporters and consults he doesn't get shit free you make this seem like he's rich lol
Drawing conclusions from a sample size of 1... This guy is making all kinds of assumptions. Did you attempt to contact the manufacturers and ask questions or submit your findings to a more established reviewer like Steve from Gamers Nexus. Take a more scientific approach. Videos like this are how misinformation and propaganda starts. You claim to be unbiased, but fail to demonstrate how your conclusions logically follow.
@@killerrf Thank you captain obvious. So what you are saying is that if someone doesn't like something, they should just ignore it and move on? Do you know how stupid that mentality is? I don't like how religion is trying to teach creationism in the science class. Does this mean I should just ignore it? . . NO! If someone is pushing misinformation, then I want to point that out. Unlike you I care about what the actual truth is. If you are just going to blindly believe what others tell you, then you are just showcasing how gullible you really are. Critical thinking is a learned ability. I suggest you take a course.
@@MacA60230 If what this TH-camr claims are true, then he wouldn't have to contact EVGA or other manufacturers. All he would have to do is submit his findings to a reviewer that does take this seriously. It would blow up. Gamers Nexus has a reputation for holding flames to the claims for any company. How stupid do you have to be to suggest that this information wouldn't set a wildfire if it were true. 🤦♂️ If he wants to become relevant, then he has a lot of work to do.
I just wanted to leave a message for you - I've been into PC's for more than 28 years, and have built dozens of PC's (probably close to 200) - and came across this gem of a channel. You are a great communicator and obviously have the passion for PC's - and you also watch out for the consumer - ensuring people that are new to the game don't get ripped off. That's what sets you apart from others - you actually care about people spending their money wisely - please never change. Love your channel and will be watching your videos as they come up. Big kudos and warm regards from Canada - Chris.
Love the video just bought a FTW 3 Black RTX 3090ti for $1099 from Newegg I remember you mentioning this back when so I was looking for this exact video
Just did the exact same as well. I always buy the lowest bin version for this exact reason, plus I normally watercool so can usually easily hit the higher clocks on the more expensive models.
Paying for the “better” version is for fools.
Also, I apparently have one of the only RTX 3080 XC3 Black cards ever made, got lucky in the queue way back in October of 2020, ordered it, and I have only seen a couple of others in the wild since then.
Omg me too! For the Labor Day sale event. This video was reaffirming.
Those are no longer cards, those are bricks lol
😂😂😂😂
I always wondered what I might be missing because I would always get the most affordable card but was able to clock it higher than more expensive ones consistently. This doesn't look like I'm missing out on anything other than keeping my money with me which is awesome! Thank you for this video
I read in an overclock forum, that somene flashed the ultllra bios in a black one, without any issues, would be nice if you test that and make a tutorial
I appreciate you for the knowledge today. So I can make good choices on my purchases. For my first PC build.
You can flash the Ultra BIOS to the black also... visual name change
@@BrillianceAutoSpa slightly higher default boost speeds that's about it. Possibly a pre-req to flashing the XOCv2 since that was intended only for the Ultra cards
For me there is still the law of 2x HDMI 2.1 and the law of not busting my ears with coil whine like the Strix but besides that I absolutely agree.
that makes sense
My MSI RTX 3080 Ventus 3X OC has always had thermal issue with it. Even after replacing the thermal pads and thermal paste, the card can still get over 70 degrees under load. The Vram temps are much better now, but the coolers on the Ventus models absolutely suck.
Was just looking at the EVGA 3070 XC3 Black at $580, ends up being $630 at checkout with tax and shipping. In this case it actually is different from the higher end versions because it does not have a backplate. I don't care a lot about that. Do you think it's a good buy in the current market? I would like a 3060 TI for cheaper, and I can get a 3070 TI for $700, but then with tax and shipping it's much more. Any thoughts? Thanks for the great video!
@Toroidal Zeus Fair, but I also care a lot about performance per $
@Toroidal Zeus lol the best is buy a console lol
Generally the coolers are better on the higher models if not wanting to water cool, the 3090TI I guess is the exception with its higher TDP. Also some don’t want to shunt mod and some models come with less power connectors other then the 3090TI.
Got the blower cooler power color 5700XT spent extra to water cool it.
Got the 3080FTW3 just added more pads etc to the backplate
Got the 3090 KPE, did the HC conversion and MP5 works
If you dont want to mod it and the power and cooler options are different then a higher model maybe a better choice for the average person. I think I would have been happy with the 5700XT Red Devil.
Try swapping oc vbios on the cards see how they differ. Would be very interesting.
My dumbass will still probably buy the "ultra OC edition" for the 40 series just cause im an idiot lol but your completely right no difference between black and ultra in regards to chip binning. My guess on the no markings thing is that they only did it woth the first runs of the card. In the GN video when steve got evga on the phone, the guy said theyre only marking chips for the first run.
Great Video Brother .
I agree, I have a 3090ti ftw3 ultra and it does not exceed 2175, and I have seen several blacks that make 2205, they have scammed us 200 dollars more because yes.
hey bud ;)
I've shared the same philosophy when buying GPU's and have never been disappointed.
Really interesting video, purchased a Palit 3080 gaming pro 10g ( yeah i know 2 connectors) what bios would you put on it ?
Thanks
hi, under € 350 what is the motherboard that barricades / limits less the (high) frequencies of the DDR5 RAM? With the highest maximum frequency limit of the RAM, which supports the highest possible frequency in OC pushed DDR5 (with top-of-the-range CPU and RAM working at higher frequencies than those generally supported by the Z690 mobos, which therefore in this case could represent a limit and block / run RAM and CPU at a lower frequency than the max they could reach, unless we are talking about Asus Apex or very expensive mobos), then mobo that does not impose a frequency limit on CPU and RAM and letting them work at their high frequencies. I foresee in the future to probably put an i7-13900K (keeping the same mobo) so the only thing I need is that it is a model of mobo that lets CPU and RAM work at very high frequencies without barricading and not limiting CPU and RAM to the limit frequency of the mobo. With high max frequency limit (the one indicated by the manufacturers in the data sheets), but above all true in a real scenario, because I see that in the data sheets some models have indicated 5333MHz, others 6000MHz, but some say that all mobos with 4 DIMM / slot RAM barricade / limit all to 6400MHz (frequency of ddr5, even if these and the CPU could theoretically work in OC even at a little more than 6400MHz), hoping that this is not true, I am looking for a mobo suitable for OC pushed RAM, the goal is to try to bring even more mature ddr5 banks that I will buy in the future (with 13900k having better IMC and SA) at the highest achievable frequency, perhaps between 6500 and 7000MHz.
U r the best
This exact q come to my mind yesterday
how do you tell apart the two cards when they are both on the table
Well.. its going to change now after you pointed it out.. great video
I’m looking to pick up the ftw3 ultra edition from my buddy for a real good price. Can’t wait to maximize my fps’s with my new system build.
Flash forward 4 weeks. Finally picked up the 3070 ftw3 from my buddy. Paid $340 for it. Can’t wait to finish my build hopefully this week.
@@izzygucci64 how did your build perform? any cons to the 3070 ftw3? been a dream to own one, trigger shy atm
@@HyFlexx hi sorry i meant to respond last week. I actually just finished the build about 2 weeks ago. Had some car issues i had to take care of. But I’ve only had a few times to play with it so far. The video card is great and runs cool. I over clocked it in the traditional sense. Raised power limit and bumped up core clocks and memory. I’ve ran some benchmarks. Played several matches in call of duty 2022. It sure does draw a lot of power @291+ watts. Next i will under volt and over clock the gpu. But with my cpu i went with the i5-13600k. Upgraded from the i5-4690k. What a difference in performance. But the thermals are pretty high. I’m using the nhd15. So I’ve been racking my brain on the best way to approach the under volt and or power throttle the power cpu. I find it so stupid that mobo manufactures are setting the stock values for voltage to the max. I’ve been researching all week about the new technology that I’m unfamiliar with in comparison with my old mobo/cpu. At the same time I’m pricing out some aio coolers that way i can just over compensate for the extra heat.
So I guess I should go with tuf 3080 12g rather than strix 3080 12g? But if I shunt mod my tuf card will 2x8 pins will be enough or will i risk blowing my card?
Problem with my Gigabyte 3080 Eagle is that it has locked power limit in the vBIOS, so I can't go either than 1905MHz whatever the chip could actually do...
have you ever heard of a thing called the SHUNT resistor ?
@@johnp9407 is it worth risking it though?
The best hardware yt channel by far.
thanks you. for the good work. ma man jufes keep it up
Kingpin is meant for ln2. Likely would do better than the others on that cooling. Back when you could check asic quality in GPUZ it was always the high score cards that clocked like crazy on air or water but the low score (60-70) that would beat ln2 records.
This is exactly why I try to buy b stock cards. I got my EVGA rtx 3070 ftw3 ultra almost a year ago around 400 dollars USD and free shipping from EVGA. Before they ran out of them they were around 600 for b stock. Great video I learned a lot.
Great video,thanks
Is the ‘black’ model a card sent to reviewer’s?
Great video!
I heard the xc3 ultra and black had power draw problems and you pretty much had to undervolt. I had an order placed yesterday and canceled it. I currently have a 3070ti FE. I’m thinking of ordering a ftw3 today. This video may change my mind tho.
Man i fckn love you dude.
DUDE did you not read the chat when you put it up on the vid hahah
Thanks J.
It seems that as we go forward the lowest models make even more sense as with the manufacturers now jacking the power up absurd amounts to extract a very limited amount of additional performance that undervolting is now the most popular course taken by many users to the higher end card for cooler temps, less power consumption with at times a very large power decrease which only results in minimum performance loss that the higher end cards are even more irrelevant now than maybe in the past with certain models of cards.
Is there a difference between the 6900 and 6900 ultimate then? Seems like almost the same type of deal.
Lmaooooo
yup sweclockers confirms this, inet did a interview with them. You share the secret information :)
Brother, I need an OC'er. R 9 5950x and EVGA3080 ti.... Dog shit frames.... How do I contact you?
Framechasers.org/consulting
I’ve been saying this for years. I noticed this at an only where we built custom pcs.
i think they save their binned chips for Kingpin cards
hello my computer is with MSI RTX 3080 Ti gaming X Trio. Ryzen 7 5800x, 32gb ram, 1300w and my Fps is from 90 to 150 with my previous video card I had 170 it was RTX 2070 please help me
I am no expert but that could from thermal throttling. The 30 series heats up quickly and even though it can handle the heat, it will throttle to maintain temps.
I thought 3080 FTW3 Ultra has bigger PCB, Cooler, and three 8 pin power connectors than Black version. How come 3090Ti has no big different and cost $199 more ??? Even 3080 Black and Ultra has just $20~$50 different but make huge different on almost everything !!! so 3090Ti FTW3 Ultra is a big scam !!! EVGA you need to drop down 3090Ti FTW3 Ultra price or your company will go down soon !!!
Yeah in the past or with other models it is always bigger heatsink and or additional power connectors with higher power limits with the FTW3/Ultra editions. The 3090ti is an outlier in this regard.
Lol man people start to realize this is not rocket science it's marketing lol it's not hard
Hashrate was sacrificed in the making of this video
Just like the Tuf and Strix cards ;)
Rappers should put a chain on a 3090 ti and where them as a necklace.
Do NOT want to pay $200 so the AIB can add +15-45Mhz to a simple curve (the same as you applying a +15-45Mhz offset).
AIB's just add their tiny +30Mhz to the curve and charge extra to normies who think its BINNED!
after this video i decided to go for the EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 Ti FTW3 Black Gaming, 24G-P5-4981-KR, 24GB GDDR6X, iCX3, ARGB LED, Backplate, Free eLeash for 1099 vs the EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 Ti FTW3 Ultra Gaming, 24G-P5-4985-KR, 24GB GDDR6X, iCX3, ARGB LED, Backplate, Free eLeash which was 1400, and the only difference i could find was the clock speed of like 100 ish MHz
Sounds like a class-action lawsuit in the making to me.
Lol I just picked up a 3090 ti ftw3 ultra for 1000...starting to think I should have just got a 3080ti for the power draw
Im borrowing a EVGA 3080 Ti FTW3 ULT 12gb LHR to possibly replace my awesome gigabyte 3080 gaming OC LHr.. I had the opportunity to trade up for FREE soo im going for it iF i can get a better boost and temp's. BTW the gigabyte isnt bad at all 2150hz 110+mem OC ''pretty stable ex. occasional freeze during benching just I dont want to hard mod it as the 3080 TI has more headroom for the same price i paid for the gigabyte ($750)
I think visually the difference was going to be the regular ftw3 was going to have the red accent at the end and the ftw3 black was going to be black. But because people hated the red because it looked like clown lips I think evga just made them all black. I could be wring but that's all i could think of why they had one called black edition.
Do you ever see yourself making your own graphics card? 👀
This one probably doesn’t apply as much, since there is no other models, but I have a 3090 FE 2220 on air. Although, from what I know there is a 550-600ish power limit even with a shunt mod, so it’s possible to hit power limit and not be able to sustain such a clock if playing 4K in some games.
if you're bypassing the measuring Resistors there is no limit. the Card won't know how much Power it's pulling so it can't limit itself.
that's literally the entire point of Powermodding - the Card can't stop you using more Power.
@@taiiat0 There is an unshuntable power limit on the card from what I've read on the 90FE models at 550-600W, I believe that card hits NVVDD/MSVDD current limits, but I have not done the shunt mod myself though & can't confirm. From various forms though generally everyone has hit this limit, but except maybe two people I've read...This problem also seems to be 90FE exerpience that AIBs don't hit due to being able to flash bios or different bios parameters in general.
@@bh180harris
if you hit limits that means that you didn't bridge enough Resistors. you have to bridge all of them.
@@taiiat0 shunts don’t deal with internal rail limits directly linked to the gpu nvvdd and msvdd. What are you talking about?
@@zappulla4092
you have to boost those sub Rails, too. not that complicated.
I learned this with my 2080ti ftw3 it was a piece of crap. Even that the cooler was bigger than the other models my vram temps were very high and the core oced really bad.
In my case I have 2 3080 amp holo from zotac and both have higher bin in memory (+1900 and +2100mhz) and one of them reaches 2300mhz on core clock meanwhile my ftw3 ultra can barely reach 2230mhz on core clock and +1400mhz on memory.... what a moneygrab pfff
2300 mhz wtf lmao
Hair!
That is not true you pay for someone to actually test the card and manually write on the pcb the clock because extra time was taken for this test this is what you pay for.
now, it's the same price))
There is so much wrong with this. I guess dual bios, external fan headers, higher out of the box clocks (most people don't tune) and better coolers that do cool better (more heat pipes) that is a fact and probable with real testing methodology and RGB lighting should all be thrown in for free but if non of that matters then yeah get the cheaper one without all that but some people want those things and will pay for it but to say there is no difference between them is obviously wrong.
@@quintrapnell3605 you assume there's a higher tier and I don't know of anyone doing diy dual bios and external fan headers.
1080 p. hIgh settings @ 400 watts W.T.F.!!! Who would want something like that, i'm on 1440p HD Lol;
He uses 360Hz at 1080p, 1440p would be 33% less frames if 1080p is saturating the GPU.
@@SKHYJINX I have a 1440 @ 240 Mhz 1Ms 27 '[ Good advice, And buy an Nvidia, no other brand ] and adjust it yourself to your wishes, such as water cooling etc
bin lottery
The 3080 FTW3 ULTRA that I had was terrible, votalge regulator problems
Please add 10 db to all your future video audio :)
No lol you give him money to change his audio
@@redclaw72666 that makes no sense. He makes money by making good quality videos with helpful information.
@@zappulla4092 the dude above needs to buy better audio instead of bitching lol but it's his choice of what and also his supporters tell him what people want if your not following lol and he listens Soo give him money he will do it duh he doesn't get much on TH-cam lol this is for PC normies he has jobs outside of TH-cam and most of his money is from supporters and consults he doesn't get shit free you make this seem like he's rich lol
What if they bin them in reverse since the higher models have better coolers and vrms. Scoundrels
Oh wait they have the same coolers. Wtf
Drawing conclusions from a sample size of 1...
This guy is making all kinds of assumptions. Did you attempt to contact the manufacturers and ask questions or submit your findings to a more established reviewer like Steve from Gamers Nexus. Take a more scientific approach. Videos like this are how misinformation and propaganda starts.
You claim to be unbiased, but fail to demonstrate how your conclusions logically follow.
You must be new to the pc industry^^
@@killerrf Thank you captain obvious.
So what you are saying is that if someone doesn't like something, they should just ignore it and move on? Do you know how stupid that mentality is?
I don't like how religion is trying to teach creationism in the science class. Does this mean I should just ignore it?
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NO!
If someone is pushing misinformation, then I want to point that out. Unlike you I care about what the actual truth is. If you are just going to blindly believe what others tell you, then you are just showcasing how gullible you really are.
Critical thinking is a learned ability. I suggest you take a course.
@@suadmemo2412 Nice assumption. Explain how you concluded that I must be "new" to the pc industry?
@@MacA60230 If what this TH-camr claims are true, then he wouldn't have to contact EVGA or other manufacturers. All he would have to do is submit his findings to a reviewer that does take this seriously. It would blow up. Gamers Nexus has a reputation for holding flames to the claims for any company. How stupid do you have to be to suggest that this information wouldn't set a wildfire if it were true. 🤦♂️
If he wants to become relevant, then he has a lot of work to do.
@@tsdbhg lol welcome to TH-cam pc normie
That reaper was trash 🤮😂
Hmm i see.
Just want to point out that both cards literally say FTW3 on them. Lol
me watching this after buying a ftw3 ultra smh