YDAW Mailbag #2: 'I Know Dino' & More
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- / ydaw -- Steven has more fun opening up new toys and letters from you lovely fans. Special thanks to 'I Know Dino' (iknowdino.com/) for sending in a sticker of their logo for us to analyze!
Video Links:
Witmer (2001) doi.org/10.112...
Holliday. et al. (2019) dx.doi.org/10.1...
Carr et al. (2017) doi.org/10.103...
Hieronymus et al. (2009) doi.org/10.100...
Hieronymus & Witmer (2010) doi.org/10.152...
Lips:
markwitton-com....
www.skeletaldr...
A bit older but still relevant: qilong.wordpre...
Bell, et al. (2017) dx.doi.org/10.1...
Theropoda Blog on the 2017 paper:
theropoda.blog...
theropoda.blog...
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Dimetrodon its a Dimetrodon 12:30 dimetrodons have sail such as that one and has been protrayed walking on 4 limbs semi spawled out shown walking like that of a komodo dragon there sail tapers like that there are some of wich that had a vary broad head simular to that one and are shown with flat feet intresting enagh last i checked dimetrodons where waaaayyy before the dinosours makeing it not a dinosour aince dinosour is usualy in a spesific time period and these bad bois where before that time period
the artwoolf you mean
I might get some merchandise for Christmas or my birthday; I'm too cash strapped for Patreon! Sorry!
"It went AAARAARrAaROEGAAaRrerghAararg...." I'll take your word for it .
I love how yall use stylized animation to demonstrate reconstruction concepts in a way that is both clear but also not so specific as to limit artist's creative interpretations of the ideas presented.
Thanks!
@@YourDinosaursAreWrong A simple reply, yet quite an uplifting one.
"A piece of plastic, charged with wonder, going on an epic journey" Oh that is poetry!
The green T.rex has Godzilla's roar. The blue one is using Jurassic Park/// era T.rex roars.
The primate in the video also has a good roar.
Napishtim AAAAAAAAAAAA AaAAAaAAaAaAAa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
Good use of those ///
Thank you so much for YDAW-ing our sticker! It is an honor :)
What's the name of the song you're using?
I just subscribed to "I Know Dino" solely based on this video. Can't wait to start listening!
I can't wait to see the updated stickers and logo!
Subscribed to your podcast thanks to YDaW. Haven't listened yet, but I think I'll download a few episodes for work this week!
@@joseignaciodepierola2855 For our podcast, we use "Dinosaur" by More Giraffes :)
I love the one kid really KNOWING his dinosaurs enough to argue with reasonable authority about it.. my godson did something similar one day to his father.. "No Daddy, that's a Diplodocus, "Brontosaurus" was never a real dinosaur, it was just a mixed up mounting by the museum!!"
And yet, Brontosaurus has made a come back. It's now being differentiated as a species separate from Apatosaurus.
@@AarowSwift yep
Not anymore! Brontosaurus is it's own species now
@@thenumbah1birdman *genus
26:57 when you're so cute even the toy carnivore goes "awe"
Exactly !
"aw the eyes light up" Steven you are adorable
Thank you for objectively analyzing the appearance of the Tyrannosaurus by bringing up each theory, view point and citations from different papers. Very informative and helpful!
I now demand that Steven does a dinosaur sound impression for every video
The letter that came with the spinosaur is super amazing.
What if it's actually a really inaccurate dimetrodon? Fix the gait and the length of the neck and it could fit right in.
well there's also the swoopy sorta nightmare-version-of-a-:3-face thing it's missing with the blocky head shape.
Excellent point.
Being a child of the 1970's I would put virtually everything I own into it supposed to being a Dimetrodon,it was a favourite subject for toy and model dinosaurs...........that wasn't even a dinosaur!😀😉
It would be really really funny if this toy screwed up Dimetrodon in the exact opposite direction from how other toys like it screw up dinosaurs.
It looks like the spinosaur that he used for the spinosaur video, i think it's the same kind of toy
Steven’s smile is so precious.
I'm guessing the first one is Monoclonius. That one was quite popular in that era of dinosaur toys.
I love the story about the lil guy and the Spino, that was too cute! My son and I have convos like this about many different subjects, love the channel!
I was having a real garbo day and seeing this in my notifications bin really helped.
I know exactly what you mean. Seems like just when I'm about to lose all faith in humanity YDAW pops up to remind me to not drive into oncoming traffic.
@@amberdamber7 reject humanity embrace dinosaurs
The first toy is likely a Monoclonius. Resembles the Dino Riders Monoclonius toy that many of us had growing up.
I agree.
Almost certain it's just a Triceratops and they didn't care.
Well he did say it looked like Centrosaurus (which is synonymous with Monoclonius)
Ohhh I think I have the same "Spinosaurus" toy that the boys sent you! It's orange too but I haven't seen it in a while now (as an 18 year old you don't play with Dino toys very often). I always assumed it was just a very very bad Spinosaurus toy.
The orange sailed toy is most likely a 1970's depiction of spinosaurus, the head shape the sail and quadrupedia all suits it perfectly.
20:20 I feel these horns/crests act like helmets or padding. It protects the face or body overall from vegetation and other things that may get in the way. Consider the cassowary vs the emu, they technically are the same animal, except one lives in a forest, the cassowary, while the other lives in a savannah/grassland where the emu lives. The cassowary has a crest while the emu does not.
T. rex was a far more weirder and interesting animal than I initially thought! Keep it up!
_Oh, _*_Dino Squad!_*
I remember that cartoon, it was fun. But very inaccurate looking back.
The wholesome content we all need in 2020
24:56 Some blog posts by Mark Wittion and other study's suggest that the animal would have had feathers as a juvenile and then lost them as it reached adulthood which based on the type of scales we see Is the Tyrannosaurids is probably the most likely conclusion still great video though love your guys work.
In my opinion the oursnosaurus/spinosaurus is probably trying to be dimetrodon
So if you want to use a more fancy sounding plural for "rhinoceros" the word you're looking for is "rhinocerotes."
Rhinoceros comes from Ancient Greek ῥινόκερως "rhinokeros," which is composed of the elements ῥῑνο (rhino) a form of the word ῥίς (rhis) meaning "nose," and κερως (kerōs), which evolved from the genitive form of κέρας (keras) meaning horn. The Greek plural of ῥῑνόκερως is ῥῑνοκέρωτες (rinokerotes). Rendered into Latin these became "rhinoceros" pl. "rhinocerotes," because even in Latin, Greek loans sometimes keep their Greek endings, not taking Latin ones.
[Of course there we are only talking about nominative plurals, as in Greek or Latin, endings will also differ based on case. Ancient Greek even had a different set of endings for "dual" (just two things, whereas plural is for three or more). But since none of those are ever used in English it matters little to the discussion.]
Here's a little bit about Latin vs Greek based plural endings:
Latin:
-us → pl. -ī
-ius → pl. -iī
-Ø → pl. -ī (Ø = no ending, ie ends in consonant)
-um → pl. -a
-a → pl. -ae
Notice how unless maybe it's part of the root, we don't have -os, nor for that matter -as, -es, -e, or -on. Any of these and it's more likely to come from Greek, and if you wanna be fancy, you had better use the Greek plural.
Unfortunately, Greek plurals are WAY MORE complicated than Latin ones. Some things are easy, like -on always becomes -a (eg. phenomenon → phenomena), but most patterns, like this plural form of rhinoceros, are not easy to understand at all. To give you some flavor of this:
Greek:
-ας, -ης, -ᾱ, -ᾰ, -η → pl. -αι
-ον → pl. -α
-ος, ους → pl. -οι
-ς, -Ø (m/f) → pl. -ες
-Ø (n)
→ pl. -ᾰ
-ις, -υς → pl. εις
-υ → pl. -η
... and it goes on.
In this case, the element κερως (kerōs) is really κερωτ (kerōt), and the nom. singular is thus κερωτ + ς (kerōt + s), while the plural form is κερωτ + ες (kerōt + es). This is the so called "Third Declension." However, the cluster of τς (ts) has become reduced to just ς (s), giving us "rhinoceros" for singular and "rhinocerotes" for plural.
"Octopus" is another good example to talk about, because you would think it's a Latin derived word whose plural would be "octopi." However, no self-respecting cephalopodologist would use that word, because "octopus" actually comes from Greek ὀκτώπους (oktōpous), whose plural is ὀκτώποδες (oktōpodes), meaning the most "proper" plural would be "octopodes." Again we have a sound in the root that disappears or changes in the nominative singular, but reappears in declensions. Greek is confusing in that way.
It's thus no wonder that Latin endings are way more popular, and some words of Greek origin just get morphed into Latinate ones. For example, hippopotamus comes from Greek ἱπποπόταμος (hippopotamos), and the Greek plural would be ῐ̔πποπότᾰμοι (hippopotamoi), but instead the Greek -os ending has been replaced by Latin -us, and the Latin plural is "hippopotomi." Or how about your one of your favorite words: "dinosaur," sometimes seen in the Latinate form "dinosaurus," whose plural would be "dinosauri." However this word for "terrible lizard" is constructed from Greek, and would δεινόσαῦρος (deinosauros) in Greek, with a plural of δεινόσαῦροι (deinosauroi).
Finally, I will just say that according to Wiktionary, "rhinocerotes" would be pronounced "rye-NAH-ser-roats" in English, but if you're already using a fancy Greek plural, I would personally go with something more like "rye-nuh-SER-uh-teas." The former reminds me of people who misread "Persephone" as "PER-suh-phone" (like "telephone" ).
But of course, you could just say "rhinoceroses" as that's the normal standard English plural. :p
3 years later and the lip theory has become the accepted idea
Video game dinosaurs would be interesting to see. ARK of something of the sorts is an obvious one but, Scribblenauts of all things has some interesting choices, such as _Caudipteryx_ or _Camptosaurus._
When I was a kid, there was this store in the mall that I would always visit for it's dinosaur models (I don't think they were "toys" even though I used them as such), and I'm surprised that a good number of them have been featured on this series, either as the subject of the episode, or just chilling on the background. For example, I have the exact same beautiful gray/black elasmosaurus model that's seen on the right side of the screen, just about head-level. It's amazing to read the comments on here and find mutual links with a random piece of plastic that my parents bought me ~25 years ago. Also, I'm from the Philippines, so almost exactly the other side of the world from most of this channel's audience.
lol I had the orange ceratosaurus in the bottom right, I think I lost it though
"Blessed is the influence of one true, loving human soul on another." -George Eliot
Need to do marine reptiles soon
Omg the "is it a spinosaurus" dinosaur was SO cute i love it
I love the iguanodon animation at the end!
The T.rex on the I know Dino logo is a Papo Tyrannosaurus by the way.
Honestly the cinematography is half the fun of this video
The T. rex in that "Primordial World" drawing looks like the one from the poster of the IMAX film "T. rex: Back to the Cretaceous." I use to watch that all the time on DVD when I was a kid.
I noticed that, too. Such an underrated film.
spinosaurus or ouranosaurus?
him: speculates it is a very inaccurate spinosaurus
me: it is an arizonasaurus
oh right that exists
What a wonderful letter from the parent at 12 minutes in and that closing animation is brilliant.
NO WAY! I had no idea i would see a dinosaur toy i had on this show. Liz's toy dinosaur is one I had as a kid too!
I enjoy this show so much and also like the animations of the dinosaurs showing the corrections in the body. The style of the animation look like they were made from construction paper cut outs, really creative look.
I had just discovered this channel only a few days ago, but now I do not know how I have been without it. Thank you so much, and I hope to continue to see more of these!
Oh my god I just remembered, so I had a higher quality version of that spinosaurus toy where it's just a bigger version with more detail, I think it was meant to be dimetrodon! Its quadrupedal and has carnivorous teeth, it has a big spine that dimetrodon is known for, if the manufacturer wanted it to be a spinosaurus he would definitely make it bipedal, so yeah it's more of a dimetrodon reconstructed of only a simple description lol.
I used to have a bunch of those first dinosaurs. I always called them protoceratops due to how they scaled with my toy soldiers.
They may have ripped the roar but it's a damn good, if inaccurate as hell, roar.
High quality dinosaur rip
Lost the opportunity to shout "It's aliiiiiveeee" there at the end
know what would be cool to see some marine reptiles on the show, they are so under loved
Keep up the excellent work, team! I'm hopeful for a video branching out into marine reptiles, if possible.
i think according to toys and art from the 60s and 70s of the spinosaurus that the little orange and yellow guy is indeed a spinosaurus
I had a bigger toy like that and the manufacturer probably tried to go for a dimetrodon because if it was a spino it would be bipedal
i have a video idea: rating the accuraty on the dinosaurs in a game called "
The Isle"
I can get behind this idea. You don't even have to install the game, there are plenty of TH-cam videos of the dinosaurs.
>implying the game is trying to portray actual dinosaurs and not literal monsters
Honestly, you only have to look at the Utah to be able to tell that the Devs don't care, I'd say wait till prehistoric kingdom.
The dinosaurs in the Isle are actually pretty good skeleton wise, it's the body coverings that aren't as scientifically accurate. But at least the Orodromeus and the Psittacosaurus have feathers. Also, the Utahraptor isn't pronating its hands.
From an anatomy standpoint most of The isles dinosaurs are pretty spot on thanks to Jakes modeling talent (such as the Diablo, Maia, Rex, Giga, Para, Allo, Dryo, Stego, Sucho, Acro, Brachio, Trike, Dilo etc), some have a few stylized features here and there while others go a lot more on the fictional side like the “utah” and “spino”.
I'm pretty sure the tiny ceratopsian is supposed to be a very retro Monoclonius. Even if the taxon is dubious now.
Aaaaaah the green dino makes a Godzilla sound 🦖🦕😂
2:58 New ringtone.
The Orange would - Spinosaurus/Ouranosaurus- A badly render Altispinax?
OMG I want to see a live react from him watching Dino Squad. That show was so terrible, I only managed to watch like three episodes.
1:54 LOL that reminds me of Buzz Lightyear's karate chop action in the first _Toy Story_ .
2:54 So... it sounded like Michael Rosen when he has chocolate cake?
OMG I had exactly the same Trex (the green one), but in purple(ish) color! Memories...
I think the spinosaurus/ouranosaurus toy might actually be an Arizonasaurus. I think it's a type of triassic crocodylian but I'm not sure. Arizonasaurus is like dimetrodon but with longer legs and a longer neck, so it fits the toy very well.
Dino Squad was... a thing. It's not *bad* per se, but it's largely inoffensive to little kids.
Is that the Papo T. rex again-
Always has been
That small ceratopsian is supposed to be monoclonious (juvenile centrosaurus) from what I think
I was watching an older episode of YDAW and found out you are from Lemont IL, Steven! I live there now and have lived there most of my life! Sadly Chipains closed in the past recent years
So what I'm getting from this is that Tyrannosaurus apparently had a comb, and if you booped its snoot, it would feel it. Though I'm presuming you'd need a ladder to do that.
I can't wait for the Quetzalcoatlus episode (I see it the background)😁
Question: I'm subscribed to a couple of outdoorsy TH-cam channels that have done videos of small monitor lizards and crocodilians, referring to both as "Dinosaurs". would it be more accurate to describe birds (one of them has a macaw) as dinosaurs seeing as the most recent info I heard had dinosaurs more closely related to birds than crocodilians.
Dino asmr. Love your channel guys!
8:23 It's most likely a lazy Dimetrodon toy. I own one that looks very similar to that and it says Dimetrodon on its belly.
Sorry I'm so late to this, great video, keep up the amazing work you guys, you're my inspiration!
i'M iN, I'm IN, iN THe DiNO sqUaD
Wow, That was Great.
awesome as always! Does your Iguana on the end screen need to be updated? I know they recently found a hadrosaur with a hoof structure.
*falls through window* Wait, this isn't the cocktail party, eh whatever.
The blue rex look like gorgosaur from the walking with dinosaur movie.
I’m 29 and am not sure if this show is for children but i have seen everything episode multiple times.
What? No marine reptiles yet? What are you waiting for!
Maybe the ceratopsian is a montanoceratops
You should do a series on dinosaur genre from jurassic park that you haven't covered yet
I think the organge “spinosaurus toy” could’ve been an Arizonasaurus.
I have that orange and blue tyrannosaurus!
Could be Jugal with a "J" sound if it pertains to the Jugular. That's just a guess, but that's the first thing I think of because of the placement.
27:00 :D
Tries to drive yellow green competitor
best like - dislike ratio ive ever seen
Great observation.
Would the scutes on a crocodilians back count as dermis armour?
2:52 OK folks, pack everything away and clean up. TH-cam has peaked.
Ever considered reviewing an early amphibian?
If I may be "that guy":
The in "parietal" is pronounced like the in "variety." See also: "diet," "proprietor," "society." So "parietal" is pronounced /pəˈɹaɪ.ə.təl/.
it seems like an inaccurate dimetrodon lol
The rex on the sticker is a papo green t rex it's pose is based on the last shot of the rex in jurassic park in the visitors centre with the colours based on the bull rex from the lost world jurassic park.
8:08 looks like arizonasaurus or a 70's spinosaurua
Can you make a video on Coronosaurus
I think the other review paper in the red mail was a review on Primal, but it's hard to tell.
the sticker is the papo trex toy steven
22:33 that should be "dee" long
Epic
Maybe the toy at 10min mark could be a Arizonasaurus?
Do you have a Gorgosaurus yet? If not I can send you one.
Have you thought about reviewing the dinosaur models in the Jurassic world evolution video game? I think it would make a cool video. I know some are completely wrong.
Would have thought the first one was monoclonius
I feel u should review and would like u to review Balaur bondoc, Achillobator giganticus, Monolophosaurus jiangi, Guanlong wucaii, Yutyrannus huali, Proceratosaurus bradleyi, Ceratosaurus nasicornis, Troodon formosus, Gojirasaurus quayi, or Tenontosaurus tilletti. :>
When are you doing the next ydaw?