The rise and fall of Chandler & Price

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  • @vinodmkoshy
    @vinodmkoshy ปีที่แล้ว +30

    I am a fourth generation printer from a little city called Trivandrum in Kerala, South India. We still have a 10*14" Chandler and Price machine which my Great Grandfather imported it second hand in the early 1920s. It's still in working condition. Feeling elated to be a part of such heritage.

    • @DaemonRowanchilde
      @DaemonRowanchilde 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      You may have a treasure there. I feel that art prints that you promote what is used to make them would be a hot commodity now that everything is being made digitally. Good luck.

  • @cabinlife1886
    @cabinlife1886 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I recently parted with my last two Kluges, marking the end of an era in our Chicago-based shop. Initially, we operated with five of these letterpress machines, but the shifting demands of our customers led us to embrace digital printing. It's a transition that fills me with a mix of emotions, especially nostalgia, as I've spent a significant part of my life working alongside these letterpresses.
    The decision to make space in our compact shop was not easy, and it was particularly painful to see one of our beloved presses go to the scrappers. Witnessing the dismantling of a machine that held so many memories felt like watching a part of my history being erased. This loss is something I still mourn deeply, even though it's been a few years since that heart-wrenching day.
    Now, I often find myself wishing to reconnect with the world of letterpress printing, longing for a place in the Chicagoland area where I could simply spend time and absorb the atmosphere of a traditional letterpress shop.

  • @williammoore4101
    @williammoore4101 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Dude, a network should offer you a job for a TV series. This kicks ass. I would watch a crap ton of this.

    • @mujinmakes
      @mujinmakes  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you so much!

  • @crowscatsandtarot
    @crowscatsandtarot 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Yesssss!!!!! I just took 2 color letterpress class over the weekend. There is something ridiculously satisfying about setting type.

  • @philparker7851
    @philparker7851 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This was a joy to watch. We spent some time hand setting and proof printing type in my first year at art college in 1979. Even then it was on it's way out. There is. I believe, something meditative about engaging in processes that just take time.

  • @oprion
    @oprion 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Have been running a small 5x8 Kelsey for 20 years now.

  • @cavecookie1
    @cavecookie1 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    This was a great vid! Reminds me of Grandpa. He was a small-town old school newspaper publisher, with a little weekly paper. His shop was right out of 1910, with 2 Linotypes, and a huge newspaper press that was as big as a pickup truck! He could spot a typo reading backwards; he minded his p's and q's! LOL! I always think of him chomping on a Roi-Tan cigar, typing away furiously on his Linotype! He was very modern, though...all his presses were electric. There were electric motors that turned those big flywheels using belts. These machines were fascinating for a kid to watch in operation; gears and cams, and wheels, all moving together in a complex dance. The sounds of the presses running is etched forever into my memory.

  • @Kekker1944
    @Kekker1944 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I learned Letterpress printing in the 50s in High school in Modesto Cal. I spent 35 years as a press operator and loved every bit of it. this was a great presentation and nostalgia for Me. Thank you 😊

  • @markhirsch3225
    @markhirsch3225 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I used to run Verticals, Klugies and Gordens too. If I had a garage, I'd be tempted to do it again

  • @evandthayer
    @evandthayer 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Tremendous video. I've been in the market for a Chandler & Price for years. I may have to pull the trigger.

    • @mujinmakes
      @mujinmakes  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Do it! I see people giving them away all the time on marketplace

  • @RickyVonPooper
    @RickyVonPooper ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Awesome video! Very informative and I dig the humour. Very cool that all those famous expressions came from this old technology and are still used today.

  • @roymichaeldeanable
    @roymichaeldeanable ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I did an Apprenticeship...6 years...as a Letterpress Printer...in the 1960s....fond memories

  • @ALIVE-Company
    @ALIVE-Company หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    such a sick video, just watched so many of them haha

  • @daverimar1237
    @daverimar1237 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Simqly one of the finest videos I've ever seen, the puality of your work is outstanding

    • @mujinmakes
      @mujinmakes  ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Thanks Dave! I hoqe everything is going well!

  • @chris_1337
    @chris_1337 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I think I have a new favorite TH-cam channel! Mujin you're a true artist, keep up the great work!

    • @mujinmakes
      @mujinmakes  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you!

  • @mikefitzpatrick1213
    @mikefitzpatrick1213 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I learned on C&P presses in HS. I was a hit in the first "real" job I had because I had that knowledge. The addition of Kluge feeders was pretty cool, but we even used a C&P for printing the inside of gift box lids, hand fed. The smell of ink brings those memories right back, lol. This was cool, thanks!

  • @madsm
    @madsm ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I know it's only 1 day old, but 268 views is absolutely criminal. Best of luck to you

  • @mimivazquez7015
    @mimivazquez7015 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    “Stationery is not stationary” as we say in my line of work. Check your video at 4:29. It was a flash but, as a stationer, it caught my eye. Thanks for the video…I’m hoping to get my hands on a C&P, so I’ll watch it again.

    • @philparker7851
      @philparker7851 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Ha. Glad it wasn't just me that said, "Ouch", at that.

  • @mikew735
    @mikew735 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    how does your channel/this video not have more views? tbf the algorithm showed me this just now so hopefully you about to get the flood.

  • @samcollage7682
    @samcollage7682 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Loved this. My C + P Pilot is waiting for her rollers. Then on with printing.

    • @mikefitzpatrick1213
      @mikefitzpatrick1213 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It was like Christmas when your new rollers arrived, and you handled them as gingerly as high explosives, lol.

  • @beefchicken
    @beefchicken 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    7:34 me: “omg video of another craftsman with the feeder intact, who’s is that?”
    Then my eyes moved over to the credit. Lol.

  • @SprayNpreyT
    @SprayNpreyT หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Good stuff!

  • @BaldGopherPress
    @BaldGopherPress ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you so much. This was a delight. I just acquired an 8x12 C&P fabricated a few years after yours!

  • @kcfraser
    @kcfraser 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Back in 1972 I started in the trade. That's when I was introduced to a little beauty,10 x15 Chandler and Price. We worked together for 2 years. The press was purchased new in 1932.

  • @davebauerart
    @davebauerart ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks! Good background. I have an 8x12Jones Gordon and a 11x17 Chandler & Price new style along with a cute Kelsey.

  • @alejandroivanponce
    @alejandroivanponce 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Hola yo tengo una máquina Chandler & price saludos tu video es sensacional muy bien elaborado

  • @FaceFaceMan
    @FaceFaceMan ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Fantastic! I hope you make more videos in this style. I never knew the origin of "jobber" back when I used to print out invoices. You have an awesome channel. Keep bringing the ai generated metal head (non OSHA approved long hair around rotating assemblies mind you) type-setters! Hell, the industrial rhythm of a printing house back in the day would make a nice backing track. Also, kudos to the beard edit.

    • @mujinmakes
      @mujinmakes  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thank you! That joke was 7 months in the making.

  • @osut688
    @osut688 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Only noticed one error in the video:
    "Sorts".
    Sorts were what they called special figure matrices supplied with Linotype font matrices (like your "ffl" example, or fractions and the like). Some sorts matrices did not have assigned "channels" in the linotype magazine, so in operation, sorts would travel all the way across the distributor without dropping into the magazine... but would drop down a metal tube at the end of the distributor into the sorts tray, to be picked up by the operator and placed in a little case of their own.
    In an actual lead type font, those special figures (fi, fl, ffi, ffl and etc.) were called "ligatures". Not many fonts I ever saw had ligatures... mostly special, fancy type faces... Old English type faces, or some italic type faces.
    I'm surprised you knew about the wax on the pins on the tympan, lol. I would try using a "lumber crayon".. those big crayons (red, black, yellow) sold at the lumber yard/hardware store that are used to write on wood. They're harder than regular crayons.
    I loved printing and took it in school in 9th, 10th, 11th and 12th grades. Had an after school job in a newspaper/job printing shop in 11th and 12th grade... and 2 years after that. The machinery was so interesting, complicated and massive. Memorized the california job case... hell, I even memorized the Linotype keyboard. Still know the names of most of the type faces.
    It was all lead type in my 9th grade year, then that teacher retired. The new teacher insisted on transitioning to Offset... did away with the linotype and went to a "Compugraphic" and other photographic type setting. Nowhere near as interesting. I wanted to run that linotype soooooo, oooooo bad. But, he wouldn't hear of it.... "waste of time".

    • @druckerman247
      @druckerman247 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I did an offset apprenticeship, and I feel the same about digital.

  • @edwardmanfredi121
    @edwardmanfredi121 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Fun video to watch ! I was brought up in a "printing family" and was handfeeding C & Ps and Colts when I was 7 or 8 yrs old. Brings back old memories ! thanks for producing this !

  • @TheSMEAC
    @TheSMEAC ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you brother for this! ❤

  • @billm.2677
    @billm.2677 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Caps & Small Caps are stored in the Upper Case. Typewriter keyboards properly identified capital letters using the proper typographic term “Caps”, see “Caps Lock”.

  • @rpower1401
    @rpower1401 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I have a ludlow type case on my wall housing a small coin collection, nice to have a bit more knowledge to go along with it.

  • @PaulMayer-z6e
    @PaulMayer-z6e 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Well done! Thankfully, letterpress is experiencing a comeback. Keep up the good work!

    • @mujinmakes
      @mujinmakes  11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you!

  • @cpbethlehem6548
    @cpbethlehem6548 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Nice job.

  • @mnstowers
    @mnstowers ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Love this! So informative AND entertaining!

    • @mujinmakes
      @mujinmakes  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for watching!

  • @EugeneBannykh
    @EugeneBannykh ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hope that the gods of the Algorithm will favor you, and this gets more traction. Awesome stuff, keep up the good work!

  • @RestoreSanityFear
    @RestoreSanityFear ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video as usual, thank you

    • @mujinmakes
      @mujinmakes  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks for watching!

  • @TheGabeGibbs
    @TheGabeGibbs ปีที่แล้ว +3

    My guy!! The attention to detail in this video is amazing. I had a blast and genuinely learned a lot. It was qerfect!

    • @mujinmakes
      @mujinmakes  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you so much, Gabe!

  • @billm.2677
    @billm.2677 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great technical craftsman point on debossing.

  • @TheJeffMiller
    @TheJeffMiller ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very cool! Brings back memories. One of my first jobs was running a letterpress at a small print shop in the early 70's. We used it to die cut business cards that had one rounded corner. Tedious work.

  • @EricFerguson-u4r
    @EricFerguson-u4r ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very interesting you should do more

  • @EdNolan
    @EdNolan ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Today I learned a thing, actually, today I learned a few things.
    Cheers.

  • @letterpress_asmr
    @letterpress_asmr 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This is incredible 😂👏🏻

  • @nicotelles5530
    @nicotelles5530 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This is an incredible video. The editing is top notch! I’m stoked for the next one 😊

  • @JohnnyTidmore
    @JohnnyTidmore ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You did an excellent job on this video. It should be shown in schools around the world!

    • @mujinmakes
      @mujinmakes  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you very much!

  • @anthonykiefer1797
    @anthonykiefer1797 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The information density of this video is massive. Still wondering why this video has such low views. Ain't no school like the old school.

  • @duffmanohyeah89
    @duffmanohyeah89 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What a ride!

  • @jeffreymilarsky3246
    @jeffreymilarsky3246 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Unbelievable!!!

  • @beaubrown5846
    @beaubrown5846 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video. Any chance you know any thing about the Kelsey King Jobber platen press? I just picked on up and can't seem to find much information on it.

    • @mujinmakes
      @mujinmakes  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for watching! Sorry to say I don't know anything about that press.

  • @GrantGibbs99
    @GrantGibbs99 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I live for this content. Amazing stuff!

  • @JarvisAshcroft
    @JarvisAshcroft หลายเดือนก่อน

    You are so talented , if you keep going you will blow up.
    You’re inspiring me to start making videos.
    Super cool keep posting !

    • @mujinmakes
      @mujinmakes  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you so much!

  • @mypugsdad5366
    @mypugsdad5366 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I ran my Dads 12X18 CP old style. We had It run by a belt attached to an electric motor. I could go pretty fast hand feeding it.

  • @stevecreasey3737
    @stevecreasey3737 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Nice!

  • @katelynhimesdrum3948
    @katelynhimesdrum3948 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Too funny! Very cool to see what phrases derived from letterpress

  • @jennhill5687
    @jennhill5687 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Can you do a video on adding and removing the rollers of the bad boy, Kluge? I am struggling something fierce! Thanks!

  • @JerseyTom
    @JerseyTom หลายเดือนก่อน

    lol @ the beard gag
    great vids, real solid channel, keep up the good work!

    • @mujinmakes
      @mujinmakes  หลายเดือนก่อน

      That joke was 6 months in the making!

  • @slghtmedia
    @slghtmedia 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    ENGAGEMENT COMMENT! GET THIS MAN FAMOUS! if everyone on the internet cared this much about their work, we’d be in a better place

  • @b.w.22
    @b.w.22 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Geeze, fella - I’m fast becoming an enormous fan. Sorry if you get a bunch of quoin’s from me from all over your ouvre, but I understand it’s good to leave comments. I’ve major enjoyed your work so far and I believe you’re about to pop off here on TH-cam, so I’m just trying to play my part. Great job, sir.
    Also, I always understood the “wrong end of the stick” to come from the Romans and the rag tied to stick that they used, uh, after their business. In communal bathrooms, these would be set in a little watercourse to be washed, but you’d definitely not want to grab “the wrong end” of those sticks. Curious what the scoop is.

    • @mujinmakes
      @mujinmakes  หลายเดือนก่อน

      I appreciate that!
      You could be right about sticks, the origin of some phrases is still debated. One viewer mentioned he argues “cut to the chase” is actually a printing reference for reducing type to fit on one page, rather than fast tracking to the chase scene in film. The world may never know.

  • @billm.2677
    @billm.2677 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Cut to the chase

    • @mujinmakes
      @mujinmakes  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cut_to_the_chase

    • @billm.2677
      @billm.2677 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ⁠​⁠@@mujinmakes
      While most folk accept the Wiki opinion that “cut to the chase” had everthing to do with 20th century film makers who readily discarded valuable film footage because silent movie patrons only cared about “chase” scenes it has a weak foundation that is based on 1 or 2 written examples found using that particular terminology. That never really made sense to me though.
      I generally put forth the proposition that a journalist or editor in the business of publications would have told the type composer to “cut to the chase”, when it was brought to his attention that the story content as written exceeded the finite parameters of available typefaces, font sizes, paper size and manufacturing equipment and process (or specifically chase size).
      For all we know, in the early 18th century one James Franklin could have given the instruction just “cut to the chase” to his younger brother Benjamin and apprentice (age 12) who was complaining about the difficulties fitting together in type a completed hand written article for a copy of The New England Courant.
      My theory aligns far more with the common definition of “cut to the chase” meaning “increase brevity and cut verbiage” than some nonsense about silent movies and their portrayals of cops and robbers or cowboys and indians.
      Thanks for your great vid on C&P.

    • @mujinmakes
      @mujinmakes  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@billm.2677 Very interesting take! I have not heard that theory before, seems like a legitimate origin. Thanks for sharing.

  • @online12plus
    @online12plus ปีที่แล้ว +3

    the ai generated images are hilarious

  • @sciontcdude
    @sciontcdude 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You spelled stationery incorrectly at 4:27 or so

    • @mujinmakes
      @mujinmakes  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Good catch

  • @NorroTaku
    @NorroTaku หลายเดือนก่อน

    5:10 ai added one to many fingers in here😂😅

  • @rubyrose49
    @rubyrose49 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Upper and lowercase! TIL.

  • @stillltippin5758
    @stillltippin5758 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You could tell people you own a PJ

  • @MartinKL
    @MartinKL หลายเดือนก่อน

    Seems imqratical but super cool

  • @rightisright100
    @rightisright100 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I started working in a print shop at 17 in 1977. I ran an AB Dick 360 and they had a C&P for numbering and perforating. From there I ran Multilith, Davidson, Harris, Heidelberg Windmill, KORD and SORD, Goss Community web press and Roland 44" Ultra. I loved hand feeding the old C&P and I also loved the Heidelberg Windmill. I have printed everything from business cards to newspapers to cereal cartons. I loved printing but was offered a job at a software company one month before Windows 95 came out. I did that for 13 years then got some part time work running a 4 color Ryobi.
    This exactly like the 2-color Roland I ran. 32pt Clay Coated News Back was no problem for this beast.
    th-cam.com/video/_2NJ7agMNU4/w-d-xo.html