Recent Reads: BEFORE WATCHMEN

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  • @kellz1703
    @kellz1703 6 ปีที่แล้ว +120

    The watchmen movie imo is probably one of greatest superhero movie right after the dark knight. It was way ahead of its time.

    • @suleymansipahi1198
      @suleymansipahi1198 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Well, before the dark knight 😄

    • @ejhozo
      @ejhozo 5 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Before dark knight. I watched the ultimate cut already 4-5 times. It's one of those movies I'm never getting bored of, can rewatch anytime.

    • @tommycipriani2254
      @tommycipriani2254 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I actually prefer it over The Dark Knight, well the directors cut I mean. I enjoyed the ultimate cut, but I could've sworn I saw Mollock at the newspaper stand getting a paper AFTER Rorschach's arrest, which is the moment Mollack was found murdered. So that kinda bothered me.

    • @johnhalo8648
      @johnhalo8648 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      It's the greatest CBM of all time. That's my opinion, tho.

    • @amineneo9831
      @amineneo9831 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@tommycipriani2254 Same. I think that watchmen and the joker are the best superhero movies of all times.

  • @gabrielp9646
    @gabrielp9646 5 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    The Minutemen mini-series, by Darwin Cooke, is one fckng well written and drawn comicbook... It had some mind-blowing moments.

    • @turtleanton6539
      @turtleanton6539 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Cool gotta read em

    • @fgdj2000
      @fgdj2000 ปีที่แล้ว

      Really? I think Darwyn Cooke usually is amazing. However, I didn't like how he vilified the Minutemen. But that exemplifies how overboard this "event" is. It takes the Minutemen - a mostly idealistic bunch of people, who were brought down by their own severe flaws - and turns them into downright anti-Heroes. Similarly, Stracyzynski takes the hint that we got from Nite Owl II's backstory that he didn't get along with his father and not only turned it into a downright abusive relationship but also made Dan a murderer through inaction. It's just over the top and lacks any of the nuance the original had. And I am usually a fan of Straczynski's work. And also Cooke's and Wein's. Not so much Azzarello. I just don't like what they did here, especially since it doesn't even come together well. The sole exception was Silk Spectre.
      Silk Spectre was actually quite clever. So, yeah 4 good issues out of 39.

  • @douglassmith6288
    @douglassmith6288 6 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    I just rewatched the movie last night after finishing the graphic novel for the first time and was surprised to see that it follows the story completely except for the very end which had a little twist. Now I love the movie that much more for staying true to the original. I'm gonna have to pick this one up too.

  • @claytonbennett7797
    @claytonbennett7797 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I collected every issue as they came out, along with a couple of variant covers.
    Now, I'm considering selling parts of the collection - someone has only requested a few of the characters. Tough to break up the set.

  • @ansuksamal1993
    @ansuksamal1993 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I picked up the omnibus a few days ago and was surprised how much I enjoyed it. I totally agree that some stories are too drawn out and are hence bad reads but overall it's a good collection if you want to delve deeper into the Watchmen universe.

  • @mormorgranat
    @mormorgranat 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm a few years late on this one I see. Bought a guys collection of single issues, and liked em a lot. As you said, some where better than others, but I liked all of them and some were really really good. I think they did a hell of a job, keeping with the Alan Moore style and putting their own twists.

  • @jconny65
    @jconny65 6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    that dust jacket is dope tho

  • @Jay30k
    @Jay30k 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Already own the deluxe editions. Glad you showed that the omnibus collects these issues on release date: it's the reason why I won't pick up this book. I just finished reading the entire Watchmen series starting with B.W. all in title order, Watchmen, all the tie-ins to Doomsday Clock and the new series up to the latest #10. If you plan to do something similar, you want the finish Minutemen first, then Silk, Comedian ect... The entire Watchmen collection is already full of flashbacks and all and I think reading B.W. on release date won't get you enough into the story as reading on title name will do.

    • @TirTalAmn
      @TirTalAmn 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      hi so i just finished the original 12 voleums of the 1986 “the watchmen” and i bought the deluxe editions for silk specter/minutemen rorsarch/comedian and nite owl/dr.manhattan and was wonder if there’s any proper order to read them or should i just pick one and read each story in full then move to the next and to the next ect ect …?

    • @Jay30k
      @Jay30k 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TirTalAmn hi, I'd recommend to read book by book. That's the correct order in my opinion: 1. Minutemen 2. Silk 3. Comedian 4. Ror 5. Nite 6. Dr Man 7. Moloch 8. Ozy 9. Crimson 10. Dollar Bill

  • @MasDouc
    @MasDouc 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    "Ozzymondayus"
    Freaking died laughing at that pronunciation

  • @freddiealonsonido
    @freddiealonsonido 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    They added the how he got cancer and the why Comedian was crying. It was cool. Read some of it as it was coming out and loved some, liked others. Glad you enjoyed it all.

    • @GemMintCollectibles
      @GemMintCollectibles  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Freddie Alonso González yea that was a highlight for me

  • @jsalsa2369
    @jsalsa2369 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great review Gem.

  • @karstenvonfjellheim5321
    @karstenvonfjellheim5321 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    International viewers can get it off Amazon for $71+$21 shipping(3weeks)

  • @Kapitan_Kit
    @Kapitan_Kit 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    And one more thing! - In my opinion you, sir, have one of the best (if not the best) layout of your collection I've ever seen! Your room and shelves are so bright and awesome.. man, I don't have enough words to describe! And what's your secret? ;) What are you by profession?:) Because I mean - that's the scary amount of money :)
    P.S. Hi from russian comic book collectors!

    • @GemMintCollectibles
      @GemMintCollectibles  6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      haha thanks bro...i just always been like this since a kid. if i want something, i just find a way

    • @Kapitan_Kit
      @Kapitan_Kit 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Gem Mint Collectibles yeah :)) we all are alike ))

    • @dnoodspodu1159
      @dnoodspodu1159 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@GemMintCollectibles People with real passion
      Kudos

  • @acebobbomb
    @acebobbomb 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    And your menu at Gembo’s Big Ass Burgers would contain The Big Gembo Burger 🍔, Manimal Fries 🍟, and a Gem Minty Milkshake 🥤!!!!!!! 😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂😂🤣😂🤣 and don’t forget the Gembo Jumbo Chicken Nuggets, and the Gembo Junior Kids Meal!

  • @Morsoth
    @Morsoth 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I just upgraded my 4 TPBs with this beast! Not a fan of the way they ordered the issues, but I can read them in the order I want anyway. It does look cool on the shelf next to the Watchmen hardcover, and I'll wait for a later edition of Doomsday Clock with #1-12 instead of buying Vol. 1 and 2. Now I'm curious to know if DC is planning something else with Watchmen...

  • @MacCollections
    @MacCollections 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Dope artwork!

  • @kytim89
    @kytim89 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Could you do Ronin, Green Arrow, and something TMNT related for your next recent reads?

  • @Randomtask68
    @Randomtask68 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Jae Lee is dope. Wish he'd take on some major work but all he seems to be up to now is covers.

  • @drhanzo91
    @drhanzo91 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Do a not so recent read video discussing the Watchmen. I would like to hear you opinion on such an important comic.

  • @marcosxaviergil
    @marcosxaviergil ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice edition. I hope it will be published in Brazil. (google translate)

  • @DiscoveryBayComics
    @DiscoveryBayComics 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I would have loved to have featured this on this morning show..........maybe in the future???

  • @aznsketcher
    @aznsketcher 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Jim Lee's art style doesn't fit with all comic book stories, but what if he did the art on one of the characters' series? that'd be interesting to see.
    I hate to buy a big ass book like an omnibus with a cool dust jacket and then see they didn't do anything to the cover itself. c'mon.
    cool review, as always.

  • @danielpolanco4805
    @danielpolanco4805 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great recent reads it looks good but I’m still on the fence with it

  • @invictusbat7225
    @invictusbat7225 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I'm so glad I watch this I was tempted to get it but hearing that the chronology is based on when they came out and not the stories all together I would never buy it .

  • @gab7809
    @gab7809 6 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    i hope instocktrade give you a very good discount you give them shout out every video + you bought pretty much every omnibus out there

    • @GoldenMean743
      @GoldenMean743 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      It is the place the buy collections though

  • @swizard0922
    @swizard0922 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great review!!! Thank you, thinking about picking it up. Wanted to ask if I could get the info from you about preordering XM statues from you.

  • @kytim89
    @kytim89 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Could you please do a video on Sin City Big Damn Omnibus if you have it?

  • @fingerprints2983
    @fingerprints2983 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I am the only one that finds the cover, how do I put it.. strange?

  • @giannieg
    @giannieg 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I f#ckin' hate what Snyder has done for the DCEU, but his Watchmen is just awesome. Highly underrated movie. Instant classic.

    • @fgdj2000
      @fgdj2000 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I think, Zack Snyder has a unique style, but rarely thinks about what he does. Case in point: Watchmen is an incredibly faithful adaptation of the GN, down to the tiniest details, but certain things (portrayal of violence, subtle changes in the characterizations of some of the characters) betray almost obliviousness to the themes and deeper meaning of the GN.
      While I'm still very fond of the film, I view it as a great companion to the original Graphic Novel, but not a sufficient substitute. Before Watchmen, as much as I respect Darwin Cooke's works in it, is a cynical cash grab and has no redeeming qualities in my eyes (apart from the afformentioned Cooke). Now, the new Watchmen TV-series, is the first thing to come close to a true successor of the original novel, since it actually tackles current issues (like the original novel did back in 1985) and manages to not to continue and expand on the story, but also on the themes and social commentary of the original.

    • @benhopkins4587
      @benhopkins4587 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Zach Snyder or Scott Snyder?
      Scott Snyder's stuff (in my opinion) is freaking amazing...
      He has really built up the Batman mythos and introduced some great stuff to the DCU, Metal has now become a full on crisis event with the Darkest Knight wanting to destroy everything in the New 52/Rebirth Multiverse and create the "Last 52" and, it is so awesome! Seriously check it out. Court of Owls is also considered by most to be one of the best Batman stories ever.
      Zach Snyder on the other hand killed the DC cinematic Universe before I could walk, but that's also to blame on WB for encouraging writes to fast track their way to big climatic, world destroying villains so they can piggy back on the MCU. Watchmen was a really good film though and is one of, if not the best Zach Snyder movies and really under rated. What he did with Superman and Batman and the whole JLA though was horrible! absolute trash, but lets be honest nothing DC has done (movies) since The Dark Knight Trilogy has been good. I still think Suicide Squad is one of the worst movies I've ever seen and I have watched some damn awful stuff in my time... I don't think Zach was connected to that movie in anyway so can't blame that one on him and also Wonder Woman was pretty terrible too, really hated all the crappy CGI effects and I (personally) think Gal Gadot is a terrible actor and didn't really bring that character to life. Any way I think WB/DC know how bad it all was what is why they let Joke be a thing and are also re-booting Batman again. This one actually sounds like it will be good, I just hope they remember to include scenes and not breakneck blink and you miss it action and exposition dumps.
      Also, just wanted to point out Zach didn't write the movies, he only directed them. Watchmen was written by David Hayter (yes, Solid Snake) and, BM V SM/Justice League was Chris Terrio, one of the worst writers of this decade! Belive it or not Man of Steel was written by Christopher Nolan of the Dark Knight Trilogy.

    • @fgdj2000
      @fgdj2000 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@benhopkins4587 I meant Zack Snyder. And, yeah, what I've read of Scott Snyder is amazing, but I don't read that many comics anymore.
      As for the DCEU, I think there were some interesting ideas, but it was really rushed and therefore not good. Man of Steel was an inspired take on Superman imo, but really needed more work on the screenplay to flesh out what this particular Clark Kent was all about. I also liked the more sympathetic take on Zod, but it fell flat by him murdering people left and right in his first scenes and the skull dream sequence.
      Batman v. Superman was basically three movies in one and didn't work, because it couldn't figure out what to focus on.
      Justice League was a disaster and I'm really curious what Zack Snyder's Justice League will reveal about how much studio interferences had to do with it.
      Other than that, I actually really enjoyed the more recent DC-based films (Aquaman, Shazam!, Joker, haven't seen Birds of Prey, yet) for being really more diverse and different from each other than MCU films, which feel a bit samey to me, now.
      And that trend seems to be continuing going forward with The Batman, Wonder Woman 1984, etc. So, I'm actually more excited about DC-based movies right now than I am about MCU movies.

    • @benhopkins4587
      @benhopkins4587 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@fgdj2000 yeah I agree mostly. I think Marvel need to take a break for a few years, give everything some breathing room and come back strong. I think DC should do something similar like I said all their movies felt rushed, like they were trying to make up for lost time to catch up with the MCU stuff.

    • @Almighty_Mage
      @Almighty_Mage 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Man of Steel is one of the greatest super hero movies

  • @awesomecomicguy3462
    @awesomecomicguy3462 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love this omnibus

  • @Sanjipika
    @Sanjipika 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Did you read the pirate stories at the end of each issue? I straight skipped that stuff 😂

  • @wolverine6266
    @wolverine6266 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Quick question have you read the series called punisher the platoon?

  • @MarkWhippy
    @MarkWhippy 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    My favorite story was Nite Owl. I really like what they did with rorschach in that one, I feel like the writer added a lot to his character with the religious angle and the climatic ending. In the rorschach one, bermejos art is amazing, but I didn't care for the story side.

  • @athan336
    @athan336 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    7:44 why is there a random yellow page

  • @iamthomasjudge
    @iamthomasjudge 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great vid as usual Gem. :) Two things: if you like Jae Lee, you should really read the 1999 Inhumans series he drew (ignore Manimal!) and I think he drew your Dark Tower omnis! Secondly, doesn't the omnibus reading order here get confusing: I read them as separate mini series, and can't imagine jumping around like this?!

  • @yanmartin3346
    @yanmartin3346 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I just want the Dr. Manhattan parts

    • @SkyNetGeneral-
      @SkyNetGeneral- 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That’s what she said .

  • @shane9323
    @shane9323 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Not much of a comic guy but I'd love to check out Watchman. Where should I start?

    • @GemMintCollectibles
      @GemMintCollectibles  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Just the OG watchmen series

    • @shane9323
      @shane9323 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@GemMintCollectibles thanks bro

    • @shane9323
      @shane9323 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@GemMintCollectibles are deluxe additions ok to start with? Don't know if I'm ready to invest in omnibuses or absolutes yet

  • @famousbowl9926
    @famousbowl9926 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I just downloaded this today. Each comic book ends with to be continued in silk spectre #1 and its minute men comic. Are they mixed or what?

    • @GemMintCollectibles
      @GemMintCollectibles  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      if i recall, they are collected that way in the book

    • @famousbowl9926
      @famousbowl9926 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@GemMintCollectibles oh mybad i was looking at the last pages. The crimson corsair pages. The regular story says end chapter 1. They were released out of order perhaps?

  • @brockg6194
    @brockg6194 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey Gem. Would you say this omnibus is better to read before or after reading the main Watchmen? Ty.

    • @GemMintCollectibles
      @GemMintCollectibles  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      after...its more of a companion as is it links to events in the original.

    • @brockg6194
      @brockg6194 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@GemMintCollectibles very cool. Thank you

  • @JPerry-jw9ik
    @JPerry-jw9ik 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I've never read a graphic novel before. I get this AND The Watchmen graphic novel? Read them before watching the movie? In what order? Someone help!

    • @GemMintCollectibles
      @GemMintCollectibles  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      read Watchmen...then watch the movie, then read Before Watchmen

    • @JPerry-jw9ik
      @JPerry-jw9ik 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@GemMintCollectibles thank you for the response! I will do that. :-)

  • @unrulysimian3897
    @unrulysimian3897 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    It was alright. Could have done without the Pirate shit.
    The Dr. Manhattan had the only "new" info. Like you said, Comedian & Rorschach were probably the best.
    Overall, I enjoyed it.

    • @iamthomasjudge
      @iamthomasjudge 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Lol, yeah to hell with that pirate shit!! :)

  • @breesybird9207
    @breesybird9207 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can you do an every vibranium/adamantium/ platinum edition released so far since there’s not that many

    • @GemMintCollectibles
      @GemMintCollectibles  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      man i ended up selling those

    • @breesybird9207
      @breesybird9207 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Gem Mint Collectibles I mean yeah they were kinda pointless they basically double dipped every previous omnibus

  • @manasannugu2568
    @manasannugu2568 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Alan Moore and Dave gibbons hated this

  • @Whiskers922
    @Whiskers922 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Do you need to read this to understand the Watchmen stuff in Rebirth?

  • @krishnansutewari470
    @krishnansutewari470 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great vid as ever Gem but I'm a bit disappointed with the Geminites comments - none of them pointed out that putting out Before Watchmen without Alan Moore's permission/blessing was one of the most egregious affronts in comic books. The awful way DC treated Moore who wrote for them not only Swamp Thing but also the Time Magazine Top 100 Best Novels of the 20th Century, Watchmen, is unbearable. I refused to buy or read Before Watchment and if people don't know about this controversy, that's fine. But for those who know, DC is disgusting for how they treated Alan. Now, with that being said, if you like Jae Lee I agree with one of the comments below to check out the Inhumans mini-series and also the first Dark Tower arc (Stephen King)!!!

  • @tommullings9912
    @tommullings9912 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yo gem these came out a couple years after the movie so theyre just expanding on the mythos. Love the original and the few single issues I read. Prob wont ever pick this up tho cuz I'm not interested in alot of the characters.

  • @Kapitan_Kit
    @Kapitan_Kit 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Before watchmen is not the worst choice above other omnibuses, but imho it's way too far from the original Watchmen.

  • @manasannugu2568
    @manasannugu2568 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    They also don’t like doomsday clock

  • @StillOnly25c
    @StillOnly25c 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    What about before Master of Kung Fu ????9

  • @fgdj2000
    @fgdj2000 ปีที่แล้ว

    I honestly didn't enjoy them when they came out individually and stopped reading them. Darwyn Cooke did. pretty good, to be fair, and while I love Strauczynski, I just didn't enjoy what he did here. But Every other story was ... just not good. Edgy for the sake of it. That's not Watchmen for me. And none have any of the depth and complexity of the original work. Watchmen was literature, Befor Watchmen was pulp fiction. At least to me. Thank you for the review. It's great to get a look at the beast. Great channel

  • @lions7staso
    @lions7staso 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow, beautiful artwork. I will get it 100%. Thank you for the overview !

  • @shadowl3gion641
    @shadowl3gion641 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is must get book .

  • @MrRossT1
    @MrRossT1 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    this omnibus is organized horribly! >:I

  • @davidpressley5653
    @davidpressley5653 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I wasn't a huge fan of the before Watchmen mini series.
    I personally was felt like it was a waste of time and even though I don't like the main story like that I beat it is a good story it's just not for me and I don't think it is the greatest superhero story of all time I personally have a certain opinion about that. In which I'll get into that one day.
    No offense to any of the writers because all the writers like Brian azzarello. I just felt like it wasn't a alan. if Alan moore had come back and kind of had a hand in before Watchmen I probably would have accepted in a little bit more because I just felt like each of the stores or like some of them were hits like you said and something women like why did you even tell the story this this is really dumb.
    Rorschach was good I'm not going to lie that when I like that when I don't know if you liked it but I liked it but the rest of them were like if he for me someone we're good. But I just felt like they were unnecessary.
    It feels the same way I feel about Doomsday Clock and I feel like that it's a good story but it shouldn't have been told.
    I know that's a weird thing to say that the store should have not been told because if it wasn't a lab or try to have some creative control over this before stuff and like gives it put out a sweater. I think they would have been a lot better for me.
    And I'm not trying to knock all the writers that wrote the miniseries because I personally think that they're great writers but it just I really wish they didn't touch the story if it wasn't Alum or at least having some input for some of the creativity in the stories it was like why even try now some of the writers they had some good ideas.
    But for me personally no I just say no to that I mean it happened and I got accepted which I did it was a good attempt but I just felt like now and I'm still like I'm not I'm still not a super big fan of watching I will admit that I'm not a big fan of watching I feel that Watchmen for me personally is like Alan Moore week as work.
    Compared to Promethea top 10 Swamp Thing Tom strong Batman The Killing Joke in a few other works I feel like watching for me was the weakest work.
    And I'm not saying it's not a great piece of work I mean it's just not personally for me I just felt like it was just it was week I mean I get what he was trying to do but I felt like Garth Ennis the boys was a better word of try to dismantle superheroes and I felt like it was our generation washer Watchmen that no one talks about

  • @mancavetheater1240
    @mancavetheater1240 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I really dug HBO'S WATCHMEN series😎it felt like,in ways,a sequel to the original film&the way it was handled,kept me entertained.

  • @jeremyg371
    @jeremyg371 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Watchman sucks ass, I hated the movie it freaked me out and I won't touch a comic with them. But on other notes I hope you are doing well and thx G man for video and have a great day..

    • @space.pirate481
      @space.pirate481 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      i guess you didnt get watchmen story lol try alan moore material

  • @dankzilla981
    @dankzilla981 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Dr. Manhattan series was really awful.
    Comedian and Rorschach were the better stories. Dollarbill wasn’t bad

    • @dankzilla981
      @dankzilla981 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Great video though Gem!

  • @lionheart4012
    @lionheart4012 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I'm planning picking up the omnibus. I enjoyed the movie as well.