it's only a matter of time until Doctor Disrespect, who already knows people hate this, panics and bails on this project and says he was "mislead" about it and it wasn't his fault and he was only the spokesman etc
Yeah, he seems to be going the road of abusing his fame and influence to further enrich himself at a cost of others with scams and other questionable methods. And that's a road that always ends up with the person in question crashing and burning eventually.
Its literally doc's own company making this, he started the company, he himself.. its literally impossible for him to come out like that considering this..
@@elitereptilian200 He can just say the people working for him "took it in the wrong direction" and he is "so so sorry if anyone felt mislead" and that he is "going to talk to some lawyers about this"
@@LordZordid 10,000 passes at $50 each is only $500,000 and Doc and his team have already poured more money than that into this project. Good math, though. Doc is serious about this project. His entire platform and career isn't worth a $500,000 scam. Honestly, you're all pretty dense for thinking so.
@@unicodePug I do not think so, I have no idea and I do not care. I was making a joke. Edit - btw. Considering the NFT space and people who are familier with it my joke was pretty decent.
"Here's 'Nothing', and while we don't have any evidence supporting our claim it's not nothing, you can buy it from us for 50 bucks in a currency you don't fully understand" Why does this keep working?!
because greed. people saw Crypto explode in price and now everyone is looking for the next big thing to make their fortunes, and all those NFT "projects" could explode in price but only if you get in Early can you make money. its all it really boils down to.
Seems that ‘influencer’ crypto projects should just be labeled a bad deal no matter what the specs are. Seems you can’t throw a pebble without some celeb or self-named ‘influencer’ with one of these dodgy projects.
Damn. They've managed to have less of a game than the game that's literally called There Is No Game. Technically both are lying to you, but at least There Is No Game lying means you get a fairly entertaining meta-puzzle game rather than a big pile of nothing.
regarding the image: it's pretty frequent that a pitch deck features "borrowed" artwork to suggest the marketing direction but they don't really mean to use that literal image. my guess is they gave it to a fiverr web person and said "something like this" without specifying that it needed to be replaced. the person who passed on the deck might have been another hired hand from fiverr themselves and not even known. it's lazy and indicates that the owners didn't care for sure but could easily have been accidental from that perspective.
Yeah, I was thinking it's probably that someone made a mockup of how they wanted the site to look, found a picture that fills the negative space on the planned design and looks cool, put that in the mockup and that's how it ended up on the actual site. Mistakes or miscommunications
Late but can kinda confirm? When I'm designing websites i often use frames/images of "Megumin" from Konosuba as placeholders to either test out looks or functionality. So very likely that someone threw together what was supposed to be a "pitch" of how it could look and no one got the memo to get new art.
man hearing him talk about how that frame seems like the one frame that you might get away with makes me feel old. 10 years ago when that trailer aired that one frame was PLASTERED all over the internet.
If you wanted to give them the benefit of the doubt, that trailer screenshot could have been a placeholder that they intended to replace once they received finalized assets from an artist. Not best practice, but it's pretty common among amateurish developers.
What I find to be a red flag and is common for all these projects are the conspicuous laziness. The bare minimum of work, theft of assets and blatant lies lies lies. It's always just barely enough to get the dumbest and greediest of people involved.
Yeah, I can see someone slapping in a placeholder to impress a client and then forgetting about it, or putting it at a low priority and hoping they don't get caught. Not the sort of thing that inspires confidence in an organisation though, especially one thet wants you to send them money and not ask too many questions.
well there is still a few issues with this as a "place holder" 1. if it gets posted publicly or spread like this they can still be sued from the rightful owner even if it was an accident 2. as callum said it was cropped (you could argue it was going to be a styncil to be traced over which is also illegal for marketing/profit revenues, dankie vs activision is a good example of this) 3. if was a random image they cropped for testing/placeholding they should label it as such or have text expanded across it so a mistake like this wouldnt happen
@@GGG_gaming 1. You probably wouldn't get sued at this level. CDPR would issue a cease and desist and the image would be taken down, end of. 2. It being cropped is irrelevant if it was a placeholder. A decent placeholder would of course be cropped to fit. 3. That is best practice but it seems like the people he's working with are amateurish at best
@@legatelaurie in most cases yes just a ceast and desist but point is that they COULD be sued also the issue of it being cropped to fit raises the issue of it being put into the folder meant for the project on purpose even though they knew its a copyrighted IP
The price of 50 is also interesting... IIRC banks make you liable for part of any transaction that needs to be reversed, in the UK it used to be 50 quid. So this might discourage someone from doing a chargeback if they knew they might get nothing back. Feels uber scammy.
Don't you all have a random frame from Cyberpunk 2077 trailer saved on our SSDs and we send it via discord to someone instead of a meme that we ment to send? I love how they always try to pass something as an accident...how is that even possible that they actually had a random frame from the trailer and it was saved in the same place as your website assets...
@@CallumUpton hi Callum, is it true that u might be impressed with E2 vlog vid showcase few days back, if its actually genuine as shown? ...appreciate your comment(s) 👍all the best
@@bokrugthewaterserpent3012 They don't have a product, so you'd think they'd try to look legit by demonstrating some assets. I mean, the asset in question is doing just that for CP2077.
he is giving many of these passes out to content creators, thing is if he is just "scamming" he is going to get grilled and essentially end his career. why would he risk his entire career for a measly $500k???? any one investing in NFT's before a games release should know the risk they are taking, given the history.
Unless he'd claim to limit them to 10 000 to attract scalpers, create an illusion of scarcity/value and make people afraid of missing out. Then letting everyone buy it and pulling out. OTOH, maybe they wait to create a wallet for you until you are approved or the game is released. Early days, I guess.
unfortunately i saw that coming. i am a dr d fan too but i always doubted how the heck he is going to fund a game with expectation as big as his. to compete with games like call of duty for example. i would guess they spent around 50 to 150 million dollar budget for modern warfare. how is dr d going to fund that?. even with the nfts lets say people fund this game. he would gather tops 5 to 10 million.
@@f2ame536 and by making it a nft/crypto game they will also be excluded from the biggest digital game marketplace Steam. Its pretty much made for scamming his own fans
As someone who dabbles in web design, it could be possible they planned on only using the Cyberpunk frame as a placeholder to represent the final image in development, for the sake of the designer, and no one caught it before upload. But if that *is* the case, it's hugely unprofessional.
i could see that the cyberpunk image was put in as a placeholder and never switched out before launch. I do the same quite often, but usually remember to change the placeholders and never on this scale...
you do realize he spend multimillion of his own money into it. You think he's gonna get 500k chump change and run away? Do you a functional brain or what?
What I don't understand is why anyone should care in the slightest about these NFT games, which all seem to be vapourware. If you like games there are thousands on Steam which you can play right now.
Callum's right - there is no crypto behind this. Its actually a very risky scam to take credit card payments due to this very reason. It will be interesting to see what business or entity shows up on the credit card statement.
probably the dr. disrespect company straight up and will say some BS like oh we were take credit card statements and then paying the crypto ourselves as a easy alternative to help get more people into the metaverse or some crap
dude please think abit for yourself instead of just parroting someone. Callum Upton even mentioned that you have the choice to buy with crypto or with credit card and why would the fact that you can make a purchase with credit card be suspicious at all? It's just for an easier onboarding, you wouldn't need to buy crypto, instead you buy with credit card and they mint the nft for you and send it to your wallet. Never ever heared a bullshit like this that you can figure out a scam if they allow credit card purchases :D omg
@@davidm02 Haha hey guys the crypto bros are here! ... Firstly try about the 9:30 mark is where Callum says you can buy using credit card. I get the onboarding stuff - but why then use crypto at all? Are they creating a wallet for you? And you can resell it outside of their ecosystem? What are you selling exactly?? It sounds more like a DAO than a NFT. Large exchanges are where you can convert real currency to crypto. And certainly not using eth which the gas fees alone would eat any profits. They say theyve already started - wheres the blockchain proof? This is a nothing burger. A scam pure and simple. All Im saying is if it walks like a duck and quacks ... but be my guest. Prove me wrong. Please post back your results. Im listening.
@@shagster1970 lol crypto bros.. hillarious. Why does it matter to you if you buy an nft with credit card or crypto? I don't get it. Yes I think they are likely creating a wallet for you where you don't own the keys, but you can send the nft to any of your wallets where you actually own the key and of course you can sell it outside of their ecosystem, thats the whole point of an nft. It sounds more like a DAO than a NFT? Man it is basically a DAO utilized by an NFT + early access for the game and a pfp. An nft is the best way to prove that you have the rights to vote for any decisions. With what exactly did they say they have already started? With the DAO platform, the pfp, the game development? What exactly you want to see on the blockchain?
Ok so I have been in the society for about a couple of months now, and I can tell you this is NOT going to be a NFT based game, and their is a bunch of false rumors going around. If you really want to know what the society is about I recommend you guys join the "midnight society" discord server, ask around, and find out for yourself. If you do choose to do that I recommend joining the voice chats and ask people you'll get more context that way. Otherwise you can just go watch the AMA video the dev's released on their midnight society YT. Plus it's coming from the dev's themselves.
I saw something like this years ago in the infancy of crypto, an “adult” vampire themed Crypto project. Nothing wound up coming out of it, and it died with the hype dying
that login system is called "passwordless" and is actually touted by some people as more secure since you would need access to the email to access the account and you don't have the downsides of users reusing passwords
@@NavidIsANoob sorry i responded so late didn't get a notification someone replied to my comment but it isn't just outsourcing the security cause most websites have password resets anyways so the argument is if they can reset your password to gain access to your account then why bother having a password anyways (although your argument about 2fa is correct if they don't reset 2fa when you ask for a password reset)
I have seen legit companies use the email only one-time-pass authentication before, like Vercel (or at least they used to). I could see an argument that it's "safer" than storing passwords, or at least less work. (even though, sure, hashing + salting isn't too hard) The rest of this seems mega sketchy though.
About the sites background image - when I used to be a graphic and web designer, I'd often use photos like that as a filler. Just as I would use lipsum for the filler text. So I can see both sides of the argument.
If they are this scammy so early on this project is going to be a disaster of epic proportions. When will youtubers learn that NFTs are never a good thing for their image. It's like they are in squid game and jumps on a tile that someone else already fell through.
what exactly is scammy about the project? Every of Callum Uptons concerns just proves that he did no research at all and failed to understand how the concept works
@@davidm02 Using art that is not yours to promote a game that does not yet exist is scammy. Selling anything related to a product that does not yet exist, not even in a proven concept, is scammy. A very unsecure login system is scammy. The question should not be "what exactly is scammy," but rather "what exactly is not scammy." You don't need to do a lot of research when everything smells like rat. If it is not blatantly obvious how a concept works it is most likely a stupid concept. It's like If I started a car company, show you a picture of a Ferrari and say hey pay me 50 buckaroos and you can be the first to drive my new car that does not exist yet, or you cannot see, because woooh I like to be mysterious. This whole project can be summarized into: I make game. I put NFT. Please step on my rug. I won't pull it.
@@CaptainCling Can't say much about that art incident, that's pure speculation. But placeholder images going live isn't really uncommon. Asking for money to be able to produce a product is scammy? So basically every company is a scam because they need to get money from investors to be able to build something? The whole world is a scam ok. Passwordless authentication is even more secure, google it before claiming it is unsecure or even scammy. Obviously you need to do more research. Any other concrete point you really think is valid what Callum Upton says? I mean he obviously didn't do enough research to not know that the project won't run on ethereum
The "one time code" login approach is fairly uncommon, but I've seen it in a few other places. If you think about it, it's not that different from just going to a webpage with an email field and hitting "forgot password" every time.
is this real? did u really? tell me he doesn’t talk about nfts all the time now? I always thought maybe he was designing a game but now I was trying to jump in on the craze and shoehorn in a NFT thing
If i played the devil's advocate... and that's for my entire post... I'd say the trailer frame was from a game-pitch folder, folders and presentations where game designers use footage or screenshots from other games that have a style they are going for for their new game. The orchestra for the Skyrim OST was given the Techno Viking by Jeremy Soule to show them the game's overall vibe, because they couldn't show them game screenshots at that point without breaking NDA. But that means that Midnight Society's web dev also is one of the guys involved with the concept, which is wild or they have a really tiny team at that point. The "Wallet Address Unveiling" is probably because they don't think that most of us Doc fans know how to even make a wallet ourselves. For the e-mail login i think you already have described the best possible outcome in your video - user data security. And when it goes into currency i find no way to make this make sense in a good way... unless the Doc actually goes full Nintendo, like Nintendo did with the Nintendo Switch, and "produces" and sells the NFT at a massive loss initially in hopes that it takes off eventually. In a way guaranteeing that this project has a long life because there is no way to rugpull something that slowly starts in the negative and climbs up together with a game project. And if i didn't play devil's advocate, this seems like something either shady or super naive on the Docs part. Basically worst case could be crypto influencers that got him to start a NFT project alongside his game just like they did with all the other celebrities in USA the past few years. Every celeb has some sort of NFT involvement, or had it and completely faceplanted with it. I don't think the Doc is cynical enough to pull something shady with his followers, unless the switch to TH-cam made him so bitter that he doesn't really care anymore. But why would he then show his face all of a sudden everywhere like he does now. He would make enemies if he pulled something shady and now suddenly reveal his real self. Maybe i'm naive with giving him the benefit of the doubt, and even if i hate NFT and will stay away from it for all my life, i wish him luck with both projects. And i rather become a naive old man than a cynical one myself, cynicism literally drains everything of any fun that could be had in life.
I could believe a ripped off asset being used as a placeholder / inspiration. And I could see a series of poor decisions leading to it being uploaded. But in the nft space, they don't the benefit of the doubt
You mean to tell me that a guy who was banned from Twitch for filming in a public rest room would be involved in sketchy dealings? WHAT POPPYCOCK IS THIS?
Yeah, Midnight Society has GUY BEAHM - Game dev and Level designer on Call of Duty, QUINN DELHOYO - Lead Sandbox Designer of Halo: Infinite, 14 yrs AAA game dev exp, SUMIT GUPTA - Co-Founder of BoomTV and ROBERT BOWLING (aka FourZeroTwo) - Creative Lead Call of Duty, 15+ yrs AAA game dev exp as the studio leaders as well as Art and Technical Directors from Halo, Call of Duty and other AAA games, with combined experience totaling over 150 years in the business.. but SURE, they're all wrong, clueless, whatever and you know better. Right? RIGHT? Who are you again?
It's one thing if you tell people that there is no game and they are paying for future development, it's another thing if you're pretending you already have a game and secretly behind scenes hiring the devs as you go...
The email login link is not actually sketchy, it's just a fairly new trend to use passwordless login, so you don't have to store any password hashes at all, and it's a good compromise between security and convenience.
Yeah, but that means _no_ security check outside email. If someone had your email and wanted to change password they would have to answer security questions, but now they just... login in your place. ~ at least they can't change your password lol ~
@@natanmaia3575 what do you mean? The industry standard is pretty much to let you reset your password using your email. Security questions are not a good practice and are thankfully dying out
This game is looking awesome and nowhere near a scam, if you are not into NFT then just ignore it, the game is free 2 play when it comes out. Why are people crying already,.... smh.
I think they used the cyberpunk screenshot as a placeholder to see how good the website might look like before they changed it. But they accidentally put it on. Playing devil's advocate.
4:09 I did it all the time back when I was a web designer (I'm now a server-side programmer). When you're designing a site, it's common practice to use copyrighted (and sometimes even watermarked) images that match the desired aesthetics and color scheme. You use these images until the final images have been provided to you. This is perfectly fine so long as it's only for internal purposes during the mockup and design phases of the project. In this case, it's likely a CSS background image that has a center-left position placed on it with no-repeat (meaning it doesn't need to be manually cropped). Oftentimes this will have a generic file path like "/assets/images/bg.jpg". Then when you've been provided with the real images, you just swap them out before publishing. I honestly believe that is a legitimate mistake. Anywho, I do agree that this NFT crap is getting ridiculous.
Buying nfts with fiat isn't abnormal. Your concerns are valid, but none of this is abnormal, and the vast majority of the time its fine. $50 risk is also extremely cheap inc. gas; and no, average gas is not $85 per transaction. Its a fraction of that. If you are worried about your $50 don't buy. And tbh if you are worried about your $50 just get out of crypto altogether.
The whole bit about the cyberpunk image in the first 5 minutes, honestly I'm not sure why Callum is having a such a hard time with it being a mistake. You'd be surprised how often in commercial environments stuff like this is done as a placeholder to match the aesthetic they're going for and outright forgotten. I mean I have tons of issues with the whole midnight society thing, but this particular fiasco is pretty normal human error behavior. As far as no one noticing, I mean again, it's easy to miss these things. You ever listen to an audio book and the dude/girl reads the same line 3 times and forgets to cut it out? Mistakes happen, especially obvious ones. I mean to be sure it's possible it was intentional IP misuse, but it's just such a nonissue for me.
They specifically mentioned that they are not an NFT project. They are not trying to only be a decentralized game, they will be on xbox and PS at some point.... The NFT you get is yours, can be transferred from your personal decentralized wallet to the games wallet as much as you want,
Web 1 and web 2 are simply encapsulating terms that try to explain the historic evolution of the internet. Web 3 is the speculative near future of the internet. You're right in that it doesn't mean anything specific right now and it certainly doesn't mean "crypto". I cringe whenever some crypto losers try to pin crypto as "web 3".
Ironically I got an ad under this video to purchase AlohaDefi "rare" NFT packs and use them to play Surf Invaders NFT based game. You should look into that.
Hey Callum. A few things. First, really enjoying all your content mate, keep it up. Second, this sounds incredibly scammy and I have a bucket of popcorn ready to watch it all go down in flames. Lol. However!! Third, as someone who has built software on the Internet for 25years, I think there's a couple of red herrings in here, specifically the Cyber Punk image and the Login Token system. The first sounds like their discount WordPress developer used it on their local machine to get the design straightened out while waiting for real content. Lorem Ipsum text, stock images, and all sorts of other fake data are used galore in this sort of thing as just a matter of course. They forgot to replace that one and then pushed to prod. Human error. I would really hesitate to read anything malicious into that, Okham's Razer etc etc. The second thing is a very common architecture when you don't want users to be able to create their own logins, whether that's because they have to negotiate a contract, be vetted, or any number of other reasons. I work for a Real Estate SaaS and we use this exact same token + email based flow. Our sales & ops people create the login and then press a button for the system to email the approved users at client company XYZ. I can think of a dozen other sites that do this as well off the top of my head, and several hybrid where one class of user can register directly but you have to go through Sales to get the other type of login. it's just a gating mechanic. Again, the rest of this sounds hilariously on par with every other snake oil scheme in this space, and I look forward to further coverage from you and the usual suspects. Cheers.
And quite the efficiency increase, instead of sometimes getting the game you paid for, now you know you’ll never see it. No more waiting and uncertainty!
You should search for SCP foundation. It's not at all a scam or anything like that but I recently found out about it and "midnight society" somehow connects to it in my head. I'm pretty sure you'll love (the concept of) it. =)
I think you misunderstand what a fallback-image is. It was probably a placeholder while they were developing the website, and it wasn't removed. A fallback comes to action only if the original content doesn't load, in this case the video. There are not many occasions where this could happen, so it basically went under the radar while testing the site. This can happen in web engineering/web design. Yes, they uploaded it intentionally, yes they cropped it to their needs, yes they took this image knowing it's from cyberpunk 2077 but only to use it as a placeholder while developing the site while it was not online because they had no footage until then, Simple as that. But they, and I'm quite sure from a logical perspective, didn't upload this purposely on the official website and tried to let people think it's an image from the game xD I'm pretty confident with that, that would be pretty damn stupid. I mean, CP is not an unknown game... // In addition to that. »Why do they use a picture from cyberpunk?«. Well, because it seems to be a good reference for the look they are aim for. I mean, imagine going in a feedback round for the website, and you have sunny landscape with happy rabbits in the header... the website wouldn't look »midnighty«. When developing, you work with placeholders which should be near the look you want to add later on. You can't finish renderings beforehand just to realize that they don't fit and start rendering again. It's all a simple process in developing. You give this topic much more attention than it deserves. Can't say anything to the other stuff, I'm just here to clear the first part out from a perspective of someone who's working in this field.
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it's only a matter of time until Doctor Disrespect, who already knows people hate this, panics and bails on this project and says he was "mislead" about it and it wasn't his fault and he was only the spokesman etc
Yeah, he seems to be going the road of abusing his fame and influence to further enrich himself at a cost of others with scams and other questionable methods. And that's a road that always ends up with the person in question crashing and burning eventually.
Its literally doc's own company making this, he started the company, he himself.. its literally impossible for him to come out like that considering this..
@@elitereptilian200 you underestimate the stupidity of Dr disrespect and his fans, if he says that they will most likely believe it
@@elitereptilian200 He can just say the people working for him "took it in the wrong direction" and he is "so so sorry if anyone felt mislead" and that he is "going to talk to some lawyers about this"
Hes leading the whole project. Doc has always been a pos, not surprising ForsenCD
Incredible, they managed to make an nft scam without even using NFTs
There must be price for such an achievement. Ohh wait there is... a 40 million dollar hit and run.
There are NFTs, just seemingly no crypto?
lol that would only say someone who have absolutely no idea about nfts :D
@@LordZordid 10,000 passes at $50 each is only $500,000 and Doc and his team have already poured more money than that into this project. Good math, though. Doc is serious about this project. His entire platform and career isn't worth a $500,000 scam. Honestly, you're all pretty dense for thinking so.
@@unicodePug I do not think so, I have no idea and I do not care. I was making a joke. Edit - btw. Considering the NFT space and people who are familier with it my joke was pretty decent.
Also they wrote “an founders pass”, now I can’t stop thinking about that.
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"Here's 'Nothing', and while we don't have any evidence supporting our claim it's not nothing, you can buy it from us for 50 bucks in a currency you don't fully understand"
Why does this keep working?!
because cripto bros are smarter than you and never never never fall for scams.
because greed. people saw Crypto explode in price and now everyone is looking for the next big thing to make their fortunes, and all those NFT "projects" could explode in price but only if you get in Early can you make money. its all it really boils down to.
Idiots with too much money
Watch "Line Goes Up" by Dan Olson. Incredible documentary that exposes NFTs for what they really are.
People are idiots.
Seems that ‘influencer’ crypto projects should just be labeled a bad deal no matter what the specs are. Seems you can’t throw a pebble without some celeb or self-named ‘influencer’ with one of these dodgy projects.
Extend that to all crypto projects and you have a winner.
Damn. They've managed to have less of a game than the game that's literally called There Is No Game. Technically both are lying to you, but at least There Is No Game lying means you get a fairly entertaining meta-puzzle game rather than a big pile of nothing.
I can smell the controversy coming. 👃
Submitted for the disapproval of the Midnight Society, I call this story... "The Tale of Dr. Disrespect's Digital Deceit"
*throws printed jpegs of sand into a fire*
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regarding the image: it's pretty frequent that a pitch deck features "borrowed" artwork to suggest the marketing direction but they don't really mean to use that literal image. my guess is they gave it to a fiverr web person and said "something like this" without specifying that it needed to be replaced. the person who passed on the deck might have been another hired hand from fiverr themselves and not even known. it's lazy and indicates that the owners didn't care for sure but could easily have been accidental from that perspective.
Fair. Still shit though
Yeah, I was thinking it's probably that someone made a mockup of how they wanted the site to look, found a picture that fills the negative space on the planned design and looks cool, put that in the mockup and that's how it ended up on the actual site. Mistakes or miscommunications
Late but can kinda confirm? When I'm designing websites i often use frames/images of "Megumin" from Konosuba as placeholders to either test out looks or functionality. So very likely that someone threw together what was supposed to be a "pitch" of how it could look and no one got the memo to get new art.
Back when I was in my teens, I walked into a store and bought a game. I feel bad for kids having to deal with this stuff.
The first red flag is Dr Disrespect.
The fact that this project is NFT, tells everything you need to know about spinless people making it.
man hearing him talk about how that frame seems like the one frame that you might get away with makes me feel old. 10 years ago when that trailer aired that one frame was PLASTERED all over the internet.
Aaah, sell the NFTs first, THEN actually build the game… if ever. I am so sick of this trend!
Never pre-ordered a game before, have you?
@@SlinkyRock nobody asked.
dont pay... its that simple kid
If you wanted to give them the benefit of the doubt, that trailer screenshot could have been a placeholder that they intended to replace once they received finalized assets from an artist. Not best practice, but it's pretty common among amateurish developers.
What I find to be a red flag and is common for all these projects are the conspicuous laziness. The bare minimum of work, theft of assets and blatant lies lies lies. It's always just barely enough to get the dumbest and greediest of people involved.
Yeah, I can see someone slapping in a placeholder to impress a client and then forgetting about it, or putting it at a low priority and hoping they don't get caught. Not the sort of thing that inspires confidence in an organisation though, especially one thet wants you to send them money and not ask too many questions.
well there is still a few issues with this as a "place holder"
1. if it gets posted publicly or spread like this they can still be sued from the rightful owner even if it was an accident
2. as callum said it was cropped (you could argue it was going to be a styncil to be traced over which is also illegal for marketing/profit revenues, dankie vs activision is a good example of this)
3. if was a random image they cropped for testing/placeholding they should label it as such or have text expanded across it so a mistake like this wouldnt happen
@@GGG_gaming 1. You probably wouldn't get sued at this level. CDPR would issue a cease and desist and the image would be taken down, end of.
2. It being cropped is irrelevant if it was a placeholder. A decent placeholder would of course be cropped to fit.
3. That is best practice but it seems like the people he's working with are amateurish at best
@@legatelaurie in most cases yes just a ceast and desist but point is that they COULD be sued
also the issue of it being cropped to fit raises the issue of it being put into the folder meant for the project on purpose even though they knew its a copyrighted IP
inB4 the inevitable Dr Disrespect video of a sobbing fake moustache "I didn't know!" hahahah
The price of 50 is also interesting... IIRC banks make you liable for part of any transaction that needs to be reversed, in the UK it used to be 50 quid. So this might discourage someone from doing a chargeback if they knew they might get nothing back. Feels uber scammy.
Don't you all have a random frame from Cyberpunk 2077 trailer saved on our SSDs and we send it via discord to someone instead of a meme that we ment to send? I love how they always try to pass something as an accident...how is that even possible that they actually had a random frame from the trailer and it was saved in the same place as your website assets...
i mean google searching images can get you some surprising results at times. but then it becomes obvious you are cutting corners when you do that.
i bet they were going to use it as a baseline stycil to trace a new thing over it...
which is also illegal to do for marketing or profit gains
fuck, you're right. i just found it hiding in my D: drive
@@CallumUpton hi Callum, is it true that u might be impressed with E2 vlog vid showcase few days back, if its actually genuine as shown? ...appreciate your comment(s) 👍all the best
@@bokrugthewaterserpent3012 They don't have a product, so you'd think they'd try to look legit by demonstrating some assets. I mean, the asset in question is doing just that for CP2077.
Thank you for the timely investigative report. Hopefully some people will be saved.
'I slipped in and fell on a wet floor between two men and formerly the police officer told me this position was called a Spit Roast' I'm dead lollol
Never did have much respect for DrDisrespect........ Obvious joke aside.
Now I have even less.
he is giving many of these passes out to content creators, thing is if he is just "scamming" he is going to get grilled and essentially end his career. why would he risk his entire career for a measly $500k???? any one investing in NFT's before a games release should know the risk they are taking, given the history.
Unless he'd claim to limit them to 10 000 to attract scalpers, create an illusion of scarcity/value and make people afraid of missing out. Then letting everyone buy it and pulling out.
OTOH, maybe they wait to create a wallet for you until you are approved or the game is released. Early days, I guess.
Exactly. He spend his own and investors money to get 500k chump change? Are these people talking out of their ass or what?
As a Dr d fan I was so disappointed with this news. I was genuinely excited to see what type of game he would produce.
unfortunately i saw that coming. i am a dr d fan too but i always doubted how the heck he is going to fund a game with expectation as big as his. to compete with games like call of duty for example. i would guess they spent around 50 to 150 million dollar budget for modern warfare. how is dr d going to fund that?. even with the nfts lets say people fund this game. he would gather tops 5 to 10 million.
@@f2ame536 and by making it a nft/crypto game they will also be excluded from the biggest digital game marketplace Steam. Its pretty much made for scamming his own fans
@@oishiio8768 It's right in the name, he disrespects everyone! :D
Bunch of fake fans here, who have clue what the fuck they are saying.
@@f2ame536 cry baby
As someone who dabbles in web design, it could be possible they planned on only using the Cyberpunk frame as a placeholder to represent the final image in development, for the sake of the designer, and no one caught it before upload. But if that *is* the case, it's hugely unprofessional.
i could see that the cyberpunk image was put in as a placeholder and never switched out before launch. I do the same quite often, but usually remember to change the placeholders and never on this scale...
What's funny is that wether Dr.Disrespect himself knows this is a scam or not doesn't matter, he will make money from the drama either way.
you do realize he spend multimillion of his own money into it. You think he's gonna get 500k chump change and run away? Do you a functional brain or what?
web guy: 1. uploads image 2. refreshes site to check if it worked 3... that image would sit there for about a minute worst case
I can't remember where exactly but I've seen that "login through token link" on pretty legit sites in recent times.
dr disrespect has always seemed like a bit of a dodgy character, this just verifies it lol...
What I don't understand is why anyone should care in the slightest about these NFT games, which all seem to be vapourware. If you like games there are thousands on Steam which you can play right now.
My jaw just went through the floor to my living room.
And the more I watch the more I think it will end in my neighbours apartment.
Callum's right - there is no crypto behind this. Its actually a very risky scam to take credit card payments due to this very reason. It will be interesting to see what business or entity shows up on the credit card statement.
probably the dr. disrespect company straight up and will say some BS like oh we were take credit card statements and then paying the crypto ourselves as a easy alternative to help get more people into the metaverse or some crap
dude please think abit for yourself instead of just parroting someone. Callum Upton even mentioned that you have the choice to buy with crypto or with credit card and why would the fact that you can make a purchase with credit card be suspicious at all? It's just for an easier onboarding, you wouldn't need to buy crypto, instead you buy with credit card and they mint the nft for you and send it to your wallet. Never ever heared a bullshit like this that you can figure out a scam if they allow credit card purchases :D omg
@@davidm02 Haha hey guys the crypto bros are here! ... Firstly try about the 9:30 mark is where Callum says you can buy using credit card. I get the onboarding stuff - but why then use crypto at all? Are they creating a wallet for you? And you can resell it outside of their ecosystem? What are you selling exactly?? It sounds more like a DAO than a NFT. Large exchanges are where you can convert real currency to crypto. And certainly not using eth which the gas fees alone would eat any profits. They say theyve already started - wheres the blockchain proof? This is a nothing burger. A scam pure and simple. All Im saying is if it walks like a duck and quacks ... but be my guest. Prove me wrong. Please post back your results. Im listening.
@@shagster1970 lol crypto bros.. hillarious. Why does it matter to you if you buy an nft with credit card or crypto? I don't get it. Yes I think they are likely creating a wallet for you where you don't own the keys, but you can send the nft to any of your wallets where you actually own the key and of course you can sell it outside of their ecosystem, thats the whole point of an nft.
It sounds more like a DAO than a NFT? Man it is basically a DAO utilized by an NFT + early access for the game and a pfp. An nft is the best way to prove that you have the rights to vote for any decisions.
With what exactly did they say they have already started? With the DAO platform, the pfp, the game development? What exactly you want to see on the blockchain?
Ok so I have been in the society for about a couple of months now, and I can tell you this is NOT going to be a NFT based game, and their is a bunch of false rumors going around. If you really want to know what the society is about I recommend you guys join the "midnight society" discord server, ask around, and find out for yourself. If you do choose to do that I recommend joining the voice chats and ask people you'll get more context that way. Otherwise you can just go watch the AMA video the dev's released on their midnight society YT. Plus it's coming from the dev's themselves.
I saw something like this years ago in the infancy of crypto, an “adult” vampire themed Crypto project.
Nothing wound up coming out of it, and it died with the hype dying
that login system is called "passwordless" and is actually touted by some people as more secure since you would need access to the email to access the account and you don't have the downsides of users reusing passwords
That sounds like they're outsourcing the burden of securing user accounts. Surely 2FA is more secure than this?
@@NavidIsANoob sorry i responded so late didn't get a notification someone replied to my comment but it isn't just outsourcing the security cause most websites have password resets anyways so the argument is if they can reset your password to gain access to your account then why bother having a password anyways (although your argument about 2fa is correct if they don't reset 2fa when you ask for a password reset)
BRO I TOLD HIM THE SAME STUFF ON DISCORD AND THEN I LEFT BEFORE THEY COULD BAN ME.
I don’t see how it’s a scam, if we’re gonna be getting a game developed by AAA devs and the nfts are optional.
I have seen legit companies use the email only one-time-pass authentication before, like Vercel (or at least they used to). I could see an argument that it's "safer" than storing passwords, or at least less work. (even though, sure, hashing + salting isn't too hard)
The rest of this seems mega sketchy though.
If people are going to click Forgot My Password to log on most of the time, anyway, why not fully commit and make it the only way to log on?
Doc's literally trying to milk his fans; and they will provide him that preemo milk
I've never liked dr. Disrespect, I think I know why now.
He was banned from Twitch for peeping on pipis.
but you like linkin park haha
This is not even a scam or a rug pull, this is just straight up theft.
About the sites background image - when I used to be a graphic and web designer, I'd often use photos like that as a filler. Just as I would use lipsum for the filler text. So I can see both sides of the argument.
Never followed Dr, he always seemed so fake and fishy, with the recent drama where he got kicked out of twitch and now this, I am regretting nothing.
If they are this scammy so early on this project is going to be a disaster of epic proportions. When will youtubers learn that NFTs are never a good thing for their image. It's like they are in squid game and jumps on a tile that someone else already fell through.
what exactly is scammy about the project? Every of Callum Uptons concerns just proves that he did no research at all and failed to understand how the concept works
dr d what happened
SQUID GAMES
@@davidm02 Using art that is not yours to promote a game that does not yet exist is scammy. Selling anything related to a product that does not yet exist, not even in a proven concept, is scammy. A very unsecure login system is scammy. The question should not be "what exactly is scammy," but rather "what exactly is not scammy." You don't need to do a lot of research when everything smells like rat. If it is not blatantly obvious how a concept works it is most likely a stupid concept. It's like If I started a car company, show you a picture of a Ferrari and say hey pay me 50 buckaroos and you can be the first to drive my new car that does not exist yet, or you cannot see, because woooh I like to be mysterious. This whole project can be summarized into: I make game. I put NFT. Please step on my rug. I won't pull it.
@@CaptainCling Can't say much about that art incident, that's pure speculation. But placeholder images going live isn't really uncommon. Asking for money to be able to produce a product is scammy? So basically every company is a scam because they need to get money from investors to be able to build something? The whole world is a scam ok. Passwordless authentication is even more secure, google it before claiming it is unsecure or even scammy. Obviously you need to do more research. Any other concrete point you really think is valid what Callum Upton says? I mean he obviously didn't do enough research to not know that the project won't run on ethereum
The "one time code" login approach is fairly uncommon, but I've seen it in a few other places. If you think about it, it's not that different from just going to a webpage with an email field and hitting "forgot password" every time.
Yeah, the Doc has great content, and I love his shows. Unfortunately due to this NFT stuff, I've unsubbed him. Time to move on to the next. Too bad.
my fav show is when he cheats on his wife
is this real? did u really? tell me he doesn’t talk about nfts all the time now? I always thought maybe he was designing a game but now I was trying to jump in on the craze and shoehorn in a NFT thing
I'm sure you won't be missed
@@AK4SHGaming you've clearly never thrown a brick at a glass house.
If i played the devil's advocate... and that's for my entire post...
I'd say the trailer frame was from a game-pitch folder, folders and presentations where game designers use footage or screenshots from other games that have a style they are going for for their new game. The orchestra for the Skyrim OST was given the Techno Viking by Jeremy Soule to show them the game's overall vibe, because they couldn't show them game screenshots at that point without breaking NDA. But that means that Midnight Society's web dev also is one of the guys involved with the concept, which is wild or they have a really tiny team at that point. The "Wallet Address Unveiling" is probably because they don't think that most of us Doc fans know how to even make a wallet ourselves. For the e-mail login i think you already have described the best possible outcome in your video - user data security. And when it goes into currency i find no way to make this make sense in a good way... unless the Doc actually goes full Nintendo, like Nintendo did with the Nintendo Switch, and "produces" and sells the NFT at a massive loss initially in hopes that it takes off eventually. In a way guaranteeing that this project has a long life because there is no way to rugpull something that slowly starts in the negative and climbs up together with a game project.
And if i didn't play devil's advocate, this seems like something either shady or super naive on the Docs part. Basically worst case could be crypto influencers that got him to start a NFT project alongside his game just like they did with all the other celebrities in USA the past few years. Every celeb has some sort of NFT involvement, or had it and completely faceplanted with it. I don't think the Doc is cynical enough to pull something shady with his followers, unless the switch to TH-cam made him so bitter that he doesn't really care anymore. But why would he then show his face all of a sudden everywhere like he does now. He would make enemies if he pulled something shady and now suddenly reveal his real self.
Maybe i'm naive with giving him the benefit of the doubt, and even if i hate NFT and will stay away from it for all my life, i wish him luck with both projects. And i rather become a naive old man than a cynical one myself, cynicism literally drains everything of any fun that could be had in life.
I'm strarting to think Dr. Disrespect isn't a real doctor
I could believe a ripped off asset being used as a placeholder / inspiration. And I could see a series of poor decisions leading to it being uploaded. But in the nft space, they don't the benefit of the doubt
I feel like that image is a pretty iconic piece of cyberpunk media. I recognized it immediately and it was pretty jarring
You mean to tell me that a guy who was banned from Twitch for filming in a public rest room would be involved in sketchy dealings? WHAT POPPYCOCK IS THIS?
last time i saw dr disrespect he was cheating on his wife and crying about it to children.
Yeah, Midnight Society has GUY BEAHM - Game dev and Level designer on Call of Duty, QUINN DELHOYO - Lead Sandbox Designer of Halo: Infinite, 14 yrs AAA game dev exp, SUMIT GUPTA - Co-Founder of BoomTV and ROBERT BOWLING (aka FourZeroTwo) - Creative Lead Call of Duty, 15+ yrs AAA game dev exp as the studio leaders as well as Art and Technical Directors from Halo, Call of Duty and other AAA games, with combined experience totaling over 150 years in the business.. but SURE, they're all wrong, clueless, whatever and you know better. Right? RIGHT?
Who are you again?
fanboy alert.
It's one thing if you tell people that there is no game and they are paying for future development, it's another thing if you're pretending you already have a game and secretly behind scenes hiring the devs as you go...
I thought of you this morning when I read about the collapse about the crypto exchange FTX.
Dr. Disrespect...ing himself and his fans. Kek.
The email login link is not actually sketchy, it's just a fairly new trend to use passwordless login, so you don't have to store any password hashes at all, and it's a good compromise between security and convenience.
Yeah, but that means _no_ security check outside email. If someone had your email and wanted to change password they would have to answer security questions, but now they just... login in your place.
~ at least they can't change your password lol ~
@@natanmaia3575 what do you mean? The industry standard is pretty much to let you reset your password using your email. Security questions are not a good practice and are thankfully dying out
4:50 - I took one look at it and said, "oh that's Max-Tac." Confirmed when I looked at his sleeve. The headset thing is very distinctive.
Guy be like: Coming to you live from the nft bathroom. *Banned from twitch*
This game is looking awesome and nowhere near a scam, if you are not into NFT then just ignore it, the game is free 2 play when it comes out. Why are people crying already,.... smh.
Shane Isaac challenged you to recreate the earth 2 rendering process. Are you going to accept it.
I still dont get why anyone want NFTs at all and especially from some Influencer that are all known to be a scetchy bunch
Says the soyboy with anime profile pic 🤡
Grammar isn’t even correct on their website. Such a joke.
ngl the gun being in frame would have tipped me off. that's the Militech Crusher shotgun, it has a very distinctive design
I think they used the cyberpunk screenshot as a placeholder to see how good the website might look like before they changed it. But they accidentally put it on. Playing devil's advocate.
4:09 I did it all the time back when I was a web designer (I'm now a server-side programmer). When you're designing a site, it's common practice to use copyrighted (and sometimes even watermarked) images that match the desired aesthetics and color scheme. You use these images until the final images have been provided to you. This is perfectly fine so long as it's only for internal purposes during the mockup and design phases of the project. In this case, it's likely a CSS background image that has a center-left position placed on it with no-repeat (meaning it doesn't need to be manually cropped). Oftentimes this will have a generic file path like "/assets/images/bg.jpg". Then when you've been provided with the real images, you just swap them out before publishing. I honestly believe that is a legitimate mistake.
Anywho, I do agree that this NFT crap is getting ridiculous.
Impossible.
Thanks for another great video, Callum!
Rug pull incoming in 5... 4... 3... 2...
Kinda perfect that they used cyberpunk 2077 screenshot...
Dr. Chicken Respec ought to distance himself from said project.
But I'm laughing really hard. I mean -- can we have a new trend yet?
not everything is good about the blockchain ledger.
ppl WILL start DDOSing people using the ledger and worse
How does this theory hold up a year later? Snapshot 7 today baby….. YAYAYAYAYAYAYA
i cannot wait to rewatch this when its wildly successful and i eat my steak while drinking my whiskey
all from my free nft
They've came out and said you don't need nft to play the game and it won't help you in the game even if you do. The game will be free to play.
Just can't wait for the game so the people who say there is no game can ssshhhhhh
I cannot wait for DD to burn his fan base and steal their money.
Buying nfts with fiat isn't abnormal. Your concerns are valid, but none of this is abnormal, and the vast majority of the time its fine. $50 risk is also extremely cheap inc. gas; and no, average gas is not $85 per transaction. Its a fraction of that. If you are worried about your $50 don't buy. And tbh if you are worried about your $50 just get out of crypto altogether.
The whole bit about the cyberpunk image in the first 5 minutes, honestly I'm not sure why Callum is having a such a hard time with it being a mistake. You'd be surprised how often in commercial environments stuff like this is done as a placeholder to match the aesthetic they're going for and outright forgotten. I mean I have tons of issues with the whole midnight society thing, but this particular fiasco is pretty normal human error behavior. As far as no one noticing, I mean again, it's easy to miss these things. You ever listen to an audio book and the dude/girl reads the same line 3 times and forgets to cut it out? Mistakes happen, especially obvious ones. I mean to be sure it's possible it was intentional IP misuse, but it's just such a nonissue for me.
That actually gives me a worse impression.
One year after, it’s quite interesting to watch this video and read all comments…
They specifically mentioned that they are not an NFT project. They are not trying to only be a decentralized game, they will be on xbox and PS at some point.... The NFT you get is yours, can be transferred from your personal decentralized wallet to the games wallet as much as you want,
There's no such thing as web3. It's all just new marketing buzzwords for things that already exist.
There is, its just being used fir scams at this moment.
@@dievas_ there’s not.
Web 1 and web 2 are simply encapsulating terms that try to explain the historic evolution of the internet. Web 3 is the speculative near future of the internet. You're right in that it doesn't mean anything specific right now and it certainly doesn't mean "crypto". I cringe whenever some crypto losers try to pin crypto as "web 3".
The cyberpunk image is from the first trailer released of cyberpunk. It was this trailer that got me hype train.. Damn, in hindsight 😭
Doc should know better than that. I hope he redirects this train wreck and succeed.
Ironically I got an ad under this video to purchase AlohaDefi "rare" NFT packs and use them to play Surf Invaders NFT based game. You should look into that.
And then I said, that's not a camel, that's my wife!
NFT projects are getting to the point of nigerian relative scams. I'm not angry anymore, just annoyed.
Hey Callum. A few things.
First, really enjoying all your content mate, keep it up.
Second, this sounds incredibly scammy and I have a bucket of popcorn ready to watch it all go down in flames. Lol. However!!
Third, as someone who has built software on the Internet for 25years, I think there's a couple of red herrings in here, specifically the Cyber Punk image and the Login Token system.
The first sounds like their discount WordPress developer used it on their local machine to get the design straightened out while waiting for real content. Lorem Ipsum text, stock images, and all sorts of other fake data are used galore in this sort of thing as just a matter of course. They forgot to replace that one and then pushed to prod. Human error. I would really hesitate to read anything malicious into that, Okham's Razer etc etc.
The second thing is a very common architecture when you don't want users to be able to create their own logins, whether that's because they have to negotiate a contract, be vetted, or any number of other reasons. I work for a Real Estate SaaS and we use this exact same token + email based flow. Our sales & ops people create the login and then press a button for the system to email the approved users at client company XYZ. I can think of a dozen other sites that do this as well off the top of my head, and several hybrid where one class of user can register directly but you have to go through Sales to get the other type of login. it's just a gating mechanic.
Again, the rest of this sounds hilariously on par with every other snake oil scheme in this space, and I look forward to further coverage from you and the usual suspects.
Cheers.
That’s why you never invest in anything that involves a influencer. 💯
NFT "Projects" are just the natural evolution of Kickstarter
Yeah... But kickstarters did actually produce some good games.
And quite the efficiency increase, instead of sometimes getting the game you paid for, now you know you’ll never see it. No more waiting and uncertainty!
This aged well……
Game snapshot 5 pre alpha is out and playable now. Make an update video
Boy this video is aging well 6 months later 😂
I thought Doctor Disrespect was a respected edgy dude. Now he'll just be an edgy dude
This video aged poorly...
If we keep at it I won't own anything.
topic aside, sick hair style Callum.
Love the new hair color
I'm upset... this is NOT the true core values of the main organisation of hit 90s Canadians kids show "Are You Afraid of the Dark"!
"Night has fallen in the City"
Night City
You should search for SCP foundation. It's not at all a scam or anything like that but I recently found out about it and "midnight society" somehow connects to it in my head.
I'm pretty sure you'll love (the concept of) it. =)
I think you misunderstand what a fallback-image is. It was probably a placeholder while they were developing the website, and it wasn't removed. A fallback comes to action only if the original content doesn't load, in this case the video. There are not many occasions where this could happen, so it basically went under the radar while testing the site. This can happen in web engineering/web design. Yes, they uploaded it intentionally, yes they cropped it to their needs, yes they took this image knowing it's from cyberpunk 2077 but only to use it as a placeholder while developing the site while it was not online because they had no footage until then, Simple as that. But they, and I'm quite sure from a logical perspective, didn't upload this purposely on the official website and tried to let people think it's an image from the game xD I'm pretty confident with that, that would be pretty damn stupid. I mean, CP is not an unknown game...
// In addition to that. »Why do they use a picture from cyberpunk?«. Well, because it seems to be a good reference for the look they are aim for. I mean, imagine going in a feedback round for the website, and you have sunny landscape with happy rabbits in the header... the website wouldn't look »midnighty«. When developing, you work with placeholders which should be near the look you want to add later on. You can't finish renderings beforehand just to realize that they don't fit and start rendering again. It's all a simple process in developing. You give this topic much more attention than it deserves. Can't say anything to the other stuff, I'm just here to clear the first part out from a perspective of someone who's working in this field.
Exactly