Earth 2 Devs all leave the project (shocker!)
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 5 ธ.ค. 2021
- News just in: earth 2 have no devs!
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Shane: "The developers... sigh... left me"
Zach: "Hey! That's my line!"
I cannot upvote this comment enough!
Omg noooo
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Lmfaoooo
If you didn't upvote this, you suck. :D
Hahaha their games called 'Disruption' rotfl
A german gaming magizine called "PC Games" recently summed up Earth 2 pretty well (this is translated of course): The cashshop without a game.
Lohnt es sich, den Beitrag zu lesen? ^^
perfect lol
@Failed Society joah, da givts diese 4 gigabyte patches dann auf dvd ;)
@@Buttersaemmel definitiv.
I don`t care for the people who invested in Earth2 . They deserve to lose their money...
When Dreamworld has more to show for their game than Earth 2. What a strange timeline.
Out of the two scam games, it's sad to say that Dreamworld has a *somewhat* of a game, if you call it anything that. lol
Earth 2 was probably never going to have a game and it'll never will now.
Dreamworld going for a No Man's Sky redemption arc would be hilarious
@@BaneHydra Unlikely. Dreamworld was intended to be a scam from the start. No Man's Sky's launch was more like a sign of incompetence, boneheaded move and massive hubris. The fact that they continued to work on it and improved the game for the last 5 years, delivering on their promise proves that the game was not intended to be a scam. If this was a scam, they could've just taken the money and ran. The updates they released were ALL for free. They didn't ask for extra money.
Dreamworld will never become what the guys behind it promised it to be, simply because what they promised is unattainable with the technology we have. That was sheer false advertisement. At most it could become a semi-functional game, but it will never become what it was originally advertised.
@@Kalimdor199Menegroth I wouldn't say it was a sign of incompetence, I would say it was a spokesperson speaking to highly of their game when the developers knew on release it was going to have all of those features that the spokesperson said it would have.
@@killer008r Yeah, that's why I mentioned hubris. They were scumbags on launch, but they were not scumbags to the end. They owned up to their mistakes and stupidity and worked their assess off to deliver the product they promised. Which is commendable, but this should not become an industry standard (looking at the triple A gaming corpohoes, it is becoming unfortunately).
Dreamworld at some point will be abandoned, there is no doubt about that. Nobody is buying this game anyway and they are strictly relying on revenue they get from Y combinator investors. However even that will cease to come in the end. And when that happens, the game will be abandoned.
Shane's little speech for the interview was the longest "For legal reasons I cant give an actual answer" I've heard in awhile
Needs to hook up with Chronicles of Elyria, perhaps that's the big partnership.
Is he hiding in a bunker on Mars?
I've had to do this in interviews as i used to work for the government/military in secure facilities with secure infrastructure. I just say "Unfortunately, that is classified or privileged info"
I absolutely love how Callum takes the shitty argument of people saying "well lets see you do better" and puts it on its head.
Truly amazing.
“VR technology can’t handle this right now.” Having done VR/AR work at my last job that is simply insane.
I also got a kick out him saying it’s going on mobile devices. A high powered gaming computer can’t handle E2 but somehow a phone can…
no just the website is going mobile or staying mobile. the game is now the tiles
His comment was about the unity engine’s ability to deploy in a mobile environment. Having done dev work, to someone in the industry this signals a desire to push E2 on mobile. Words mean things, and this statement felt clear to me.
Still the “VR technology isn’t ready for my product” is really lazy and downplays how E2 lags behind the VR industry. This excuse for pushing mobile assumes his audience doesn’t understand VR technology or the engine he uses.
I watched the full video to double check: he literally says this is going on your phone. It’s out there and blunt. E2 is now a mobile game.
@@pilotjoe4010 but He also does say VR can't handle it.
That’s my point. VR in a modern system is not difficult to do. To say his “technology” is that far advanced is simply not true. This demonstrates that he is to lazy to check the handful of boxes to enable VR in the Unity engine. Or even worse, that he has no product to use VR on.
It’s a stock feature, to make it incompatible with VR he’d literally have to break the engine. He has nothing to gain by wrecking his own system. Unless he has nothing to break
3:18 - "In a short period of time"
That's the fucking KEY here. All these guys care about is getting in, ripping chumps off, and getting out, quick. They could care less about the long-term future of the -game- platform because they know once they've pulled the rug there will be no future.
Earth 2 A Realm Reborn. I can't even.
Is E2-ARR possibly a free-to-play Discord-based idle game? If so, taking known genres to new places!
Its a cross between idle and strategy, and will be 100% free for all to play through discord on any server 😉
It has PvP between lovers and haters.
What happens when HR and PR fire everyone else and make the ultimate 'game'
ARR 💀
Thinking its gonna be f2p like hahahaha u fool!!!
When Shane talks about what you can do in his game, it reminds me of being like 10 years old and inventing imaginary games in which you could do anything you thought would be fun. Then you tell your friends about it and everyone thinks it's so cool. Then that's it because you're a child just imagining a wishlist of things you cant actually do because you have no idea how to do them. "Wouldnt it be cool if there was a game where you could *list everything you ever wanted in a game*!?" Yeah, it sure would but that's the end of it, wishful thinking.
If wishes were horses, then beggars would ride.
The first step in making a game where you can do anything is to make a game where you can do something. At all. And they haven't even done that.
Man, first Dreamworld and now Earth 2. Callum is the human embodiment of the phrase "Make it yourself if you think you can do better". Such a champ.
The things you've created out of spite is fantastic.
@@zimri-lim8254 ?
Spite is a super powerful motivator
These two aren't any more respectable. They knew what this was or at LEAST, has become. They just jumped ship ahead of the big public collapse. Everyone involved in this project is corrupt.
It's not just that they're incompetent, it's that their core functionality of distributing and trading tiles, is completely breaking down... after a YEAR of explicitly putting off actual game functions to allegedly make sure this part of the system was rock solid. If they can't smoothly onboard new people or open up new terrain for sale without this kind of chaos, no one should have any faith in that they're allegedly holding for tiles from before. (not that they should have had faith in the first place).
“Collaborating with a metaverse and virtual economy leader like Earth 2 highlights our commitment to the blockchain gaming and NFT ecosystems” said Sandeep Nailwal, co-founder of Polygon - seems like there are different opinions about Earth2
Earth 2 already forgot about phase 2 promise. They keep adding stuff in "game" like gem, crafting and essence. They even add PvP as one future promise. How come from owning VR digital property (with real money btw) suddenly become MMORPG Strategy-ish ?
@@yudhiadhyatmikosiswono9082 If you built your own business i want to see you not changing plans from time to time. That's how things go.
@@Ralferator that's not an answer, that's a pathetic attempt at deflecting attention away from the fact that you have no answer
@@petriew2018 Seems like you can't discuss without getting personal and full of anger. I don't discuss with people who can't control their emotions anymore, sorry!
A Realm Reborn and Nightmare World? Damn, spite is a motivator.
what a saga this has been, cant wait to see what new projects the devs will fail to launch after recieving payment next
Scam developers: look! We made a thing. It's taken us months of hard work and it's going to be awesome.
Callum: this is terrible
The fans: oh bet you couldn't do it
Callum: *pulls a free "game" out with more features in 48 hours using discord* you were saying?
A roadmap doesn't stop a dev from doing whatever they want...
If they made the roadmap they can change what's on it too.
A roadmap is more for the consumers and investors so they know what is coming up or being worked on.
The E2 junkies thinking a roadmap hinders devs creation...
Well I don't even know what to say, but their group should start getting together for book studies so they actually might learn something.
Upside: they can do anything they want!
Downside: they can do anything they want...
True the Devs can ignore or just straight up change roadmap it they want but most Devs don't because it helps the to see how to proceed/progress forward the greatest example I can give are ff14 Vs wow ff14 has a roadmap that very consistent to the point that some players manages to predict what most of the story will happen in endwalker but wow doesn't have that they just let's roll and see what happens and what happened are a bunch of retcon and books to explain the story.
You can also have an internal roadmap and an external one
The reason why they don't have road map is simple, they can keep changing their goal post.
Since beginning of Earth 2 is always hear about Multiverse, VR game,Ready Player One, MMO-ish by Arya Realty but now they have NFT, Crafting, Jewel and etc.
Looks like keep adding word that popular in the "game".
Callum shuts the mouth of those who say well then do it yourself. I love it.
That last shower clip was worth the wait.
Glad to hear the devs are leaving to work on a "play to earn crypto game", so they're basically abandoning one scam to join another one.
Do what you know.
You do realize that even though the developers left the project they invested in it. I bought right next to Thomas and Wolfgang in Italy.
Did they invest in it before when they had hopes & dreams, or after. Otherwise how do you know they didn’t just call it a wash!
That was a glorious premier sir just glorious
I cant wait to see what AryaRealty ends up doing
Also need a nightmare world update 🥰
"Hi guys, Im here to tell you about a fantastic new game called Dreamworld"
- Arya, probably
AryaVanliving :(
I'll bet they sell the entirety of Earth2 to him and he turns the "game" around and makes it a worldwide phenomenon.
@@Fatalmindgames I also hope we can get a NightmareWorld update for you all soon! (lore writer). The team's been working on lots of cool things ^.^ x
Honestly, was not expecting the half naked (hopefully) Asian man shout out. But I guess neither were you, and that was probably the point.
As a dev for fun, this is why I joined the channel, my man always puts his money and work where his mouth is. Callum keep up this awesome work homie. That big boy at the end was perfect.
I admire you recording this at 2 in the morning. Dedication.
@@EviLLivEClan the first number is the date, not the month. So, where we in the US would write it 12/6/21, UK writes it 6/12/21.
@@EviLLivEClan every country doesn't do dates how the US does.
@@EviLLivEClan similar difference to how the US shows sports scores.
Here the home team is always first, eg:
Home 0-0 Away
But the US looks at it with a view that one team is @ another, so the home team is second, eg
Away 0-0 Home
Confused me for fucking years!
I used to play different kinds of games, but since I started watching your channel, my tastes have evolved. Now my favorite genre of video game is "debunking" :P
i always find it strange when a technology company, ones that are pushing cutting or bleeding edge tech thats supposed to change the world but cant afford a decent microphone for an interview. maybe thats nitpicky.
Especialy since the only thing he has to do is lift a couple of sheets to eliminate the echo. Free if you use your own from the ved. A 10$ max investment to get a couple from ikea
Yes like Activision/Blizzard and their new World of Warcraft Community Council video, where apparently they can't afford to send people a $15 dynamic microphone and a packing blanket so half of them sound like they're talking into an enormous toilet bowl ... which I guess when you're addressing the Warcraft audience, you kind of are.
I love earth 2, the dumpster fire keeps me warm.
I can't wait to see the video on "Earth 2 a realm reborn"!! Lol absolutely amazing content. Thank you for the pick me up on Monday Cal.
Callum mate, I'm in E2 discord just to have a laugh at how deluded these people are and when you come in you always give me the biggest laugh with how much you trigger them xD Keep up the good work!
my birds love u callum they start chirping every time i watch one of ur videos
this is just devastating, i love this content, you got yourself a new sub XD
It'll be around in two months... Shane will use all the tools to artificially prolong the downfall of this project and make it seem like it's still viable.
He could freeze the markets for two months and say it's just because there's something big right around the corner
you mean like cooperating with the most important studio of the crypto-gaming world?
@@Ralferator you mean ubisoft?
@@Tsuchimursu i mean the studio that's also partnering with Sandbox and Decentralland which together have a Marketcap of more than 11 Billion!!! $
Remember when Earth 2 claim to be next Ready Player One and have developer of VR in their team.
That claim is already red flag and not to mention you to sign their dubious agreement to play Earth 2.
Earth 2 announces decentralization plans and partnership with Polygon Studios
Posted: 12/6/2021. this video aged well
That Enter the Metaverse segment felt like when Chris Hansen comes out from behind a door in To Catch A Predator. I have to wonder if it was a sting operation by the operators of the Metaverse livestream
LOL hahah we all saw this coming, nice video Callum!
If you plan on making a web app of Earth 2: A Realm Reborn, let me know. I’d love to help out whatever way I can.
Sincerely,
A Web Developer
This aged well... 😂😂😂📈🤯
Next patch:
--Multi-buying bug upgraded to a feature. You can now buy any tile you want as many times as you want. (wait another patch, and you can even pay extra to upgrade it above tier 3)
--Market freeze made permanent, because why would you need to buy from other players when everything is available directly from Shane?
A bit of a tangent, but it's terrifying that Facebook is interested in the metaverse concept. A company like that in charge with more of a business mindset than a creative mindset is mortifying
I wonder what that tile change does to our favorite "NOT A FINACIAL ADVISOR" Aria?
lol Goddamn the Titanic is finally starting to sink.
I wonder if the insider trading clause or other criminal charges would apply here?
Not a chance. E2 isn't a regulated market.
That Earth game Callum mentioned at the end sounds like it would actually be interesting, since it would be an in-game currency with no real-world money stuff.
Basically, it would be like a sort of real-estate game, I guess.
Nice work
Got a hearty chuckle out of me when you said you have made your own Earth 2
I love that Callum's (and friends) response to bad games is just "damn it, we'll make our own!"
Loooolll the ending. Can’t wait for the earth2 discord video
This is gonna blow up hard, and it's going to be entertaining af.. I'm gonna need to stock up on pop corn!
The title made me lol, kudos
It's annoying that Shane kept referring to smartphones as "hand devices". It's like he was trying to make a smarter or cooler sounding term for something that already exists, but it just sounds dumb. And that pretty much sums up his whole interview.
I cried with 'hand device' yeah I'm a sensitive guy and I hate stupid words
Hand devices is very broad term. It can be flashlight, remote control, walkie talkie, vibrator, etc.
The delivery at 5:28 is hilarious.
I could see the video being made in my head after watching your first earth 2 video
God I still remember being there for the asian shower guy in VC, that shit was wild.
As far as i can see, every single change they’ve recently made, freezing the market, rewarding players with Essence, changing all new tiles to class 2 with all ‘original’ buyers tiles being class one, is all just to stop people from selling up and withdrawing their cash.
i see they announced today a partnership with Polygon. Apparently they are going to be providing the services to facilitate some of their game levels and blockchain stuff, however it’s as vague as every other announcement they make with zero meat on the bone.
Polygon Studios is partnering with Decentralland and The Sandbox too, which are together 11 Billion Dollars Marketcap!!! I would call that meat on the bone.
@@Ralferator That is meat on the bone for Polygon Studios, but Decentralland is a direct competitor to E2 so the fact they are partnered with them as well removes any USP the Polygon partnership could have brought E2. Like i said, like most things Shane has talked about over the last year, very little of it has came to fruition, and what has came to fruition has been a completely different watered down version of what was initially promised.
There is a reason all of their lead developers have jumped ship. They have no confidence in the captain at the helm, who wants to monetise every aspect of E2 before there is any semblance of an actual game. I feel sorry for the people who paid an absolute fortune for the ‘privilege’ of owning Class 1 tiles, just to be told last week that all class 2 tiles would be upgraded to class 1 for free anyways. This a prime example of Shane’s knee jerk decision making.
@@darkcognitive Decentralland is not a direct competitor. It's a very different approach not rebuilding planet Earth.
Shane has promised too much too early but things are getting better.
i quote you: "There is a reason all of their lead developers have jumped ship. They have no confidence in the captain at the helm, who wants to monetise every aspect of E2 before there is any semblance of an actual game" - that's only your presumption. Did you talk to them and asked them what the reason is?
" I feel sorry for the people who paid an absolute fortune for the ‘privilege’ of owning Class 1 tiles, just to be told last week that all class 2 tiles would be upgraded to class 1 for free anyways."
Tile sales just exploded and since only Tier 1 (not Class 1 - that's something else) produce Yewels which can be used to produce more Essence, Tier 1 tiles will be much higher priced in the future. You obviously don't have any tiles and don't use Earth2 or you would know.
It doesn't make sense to make assumptions without having enough information or even using Earth2. You will just draw the wrong conclusions.
@@darkcognitive Actually last year Shane claim that Earth 2 claim have a creator of VR technology ( i think the korean guy) but it turn out he is just hired advisor and he is not creator of VR. That poor guy are just hired by VR company in the past as sales management.
My word, don't trust anything that Shane E2 guy claim. He is also promise for VR for Earth 2 in early day and Phase 3 in the end of 2021. He keeps moving his goal post.
@@Ralferator Decentralland absolutely is a competitor, if it’s in the Metaverse realm and can take cash from players that might otherwise have went to E2, then it’s a competitor.
As for the reason the devs left, The devs have already moved onto working on another game, and yes there is some evidence of them not being happy with Shane and vice versa (Shane banning them from Discord for a start the moment they left should give you a hint)…. And also the devs publicly stating that they didn’t want Essence tied to real USD, tons, just for Shane to go against them. There have been tons of deleted discord posts about what they devs wanted and didnt get. They are under an NDA just now but it will all come out. I follow this much more closely that you think, and have followed it from it’s inception, yes i said Class instead of Tier… big deal. You know what I’m talking about and I’m not wrong. If all you have to argue is semantics then you just prove my point even more.
Good luck selling your tiles for a 90% discount when they decide to unfreeze the marketplace, lmao…. The sign of a stable, transparent and working marketplace is when the entire player base has to discount tiles by over 90% just to try and get a sale, whilst the owner has the ability to just ‘freeze’ it whenever he chooses……. So stable and trustworthy.
First time I heard this and no context, this sounds absolutely hilarious
“We tried making a second Earth but we gave up”
The thumbnail is amazing
Thanks Callum. God’s work, right here.
I'm amazed at how you can just put a disfunctional website out there and ask people to pay and they will.
but that market freeze warning was on the test site before the two devs left...
That is the greatest ending to a video I've ever seen hahaha
Hand device got me crying
This is just getting unfair...Dreamworld? ok. we'll develop it, but 10,000% more efficiently in terms of time and resources.
Earth 2? hmm. should we go for 1,000,000% more efficiently? And then they just go out and DO it to prove a point.
I'm waiting for them to have both Elyria games done by the end of the year ;)
100 bonus points if the crypto is called "Uptons"
What a shocking and total unforseen path of events
I wonder if Arya Realty will pull out.
A fool and his money are easily separated.
They partnered with polygon studios
I’m not sure how significant that is
You may not like to talk about it, but I love it! Gotta love some drama about a project without a future. Please continue!
How is Nightmare world going? :) As a fellow dev I can't wait for more videos on it! :)
It's going well! (lore team member). I'm glad you're enjoying the videos so far! ^.^ x
devlog coming over xmas!
@@CallumUpton looking forward to it! one of most solid work out there when it comes down to small indie projects.
I wonder wher you got the name for your version of Earth 2 from.
Might it be a critically acclaimed mmorpg?
"Told you so & serves you right!"
-Potholer54
Am I going crazy or at 12:04 when you're on your profile that speaker icon is one of Zach's stupid kickstarter ideas? I swear it is the same or similar.
Tier 2 tiles will produce Essence by the way 😁 please don't get your facts from Nameless. Love GrandMaster
When callum said we're making our own version..I skipped a beat
Looking at the trailers and the website again, I see now that E2 was always intended as a play-to-earn game, and has always been advertized as one. Now I would be interested in discussions about how good it currently is as a play-to-earn game, compared to others, regardless of whether or not it will ever have any kind of virtual world.
I absolutely love how you just spite-make things. xD
Wasn't this supposed to be some crypto/blockchain BS? How can they claim you truly own this virtual land when the devs can snatch it from you and refuse to let you sell it.
Well they just partnered with polygon studios so…
many say that Earth 2 partnered with polygon Studios but simple Google news i get about Polygon Studios and NFT articles are come from Business Wire. The articles itself no mention about Earth 2 partnership.
all it takes is for one of their 'investors' to ask a court that same question and this house of cards collapses.....
@@petriew2018 lol not even sure what that means
Callum: i've never seen a company that big fail so hard
Blizzard: visibly sweating looking from the distance
Hilarious, love the name for your earth 2
Quality content
good videos good subtitles
Boy Tier and Class are not the same, do your research boiiiiii.
Polygon...
" I love you big dog, AHHHHH.... alalalalala" I cant anymore xD
You owe me a new keyboard! GDI, you made me spit my drink when you said "Earth 2: A Realm Reborn".
Jesus Christ, Callum, you're not one to mess around, kicking them while they're already down 😵 absolutely brutal
I'll gladly try out a reborn Earth 2.
"different abilities and movements"... what an intersting idea... now i'll be thinking about it while emptying my stomach to the toilet for a while (thx shane, you're the best weight loss program, i just need to listen to you for 20seconds and BAM)
Imagine Nintendo's conferences if it worked that way :
Nintendo : "In our project of a new Mario game, we're still conceiving interesting gameplay parts"
Public : "YEAH !!!!"
Nintendo : "For instance, we're planning of making Mario run !"
Public : "..."
Nintendo : "And jump !"
Public : "..."
Nintendo : "You're so amazed that you're literally speechless ! And we're still thinking about using the others buttons from the controller !"
You're welcome mate ;)
Will you be covering how they aquired the drone game as their "pvp" game? found a little video on about it and am waiting for you, bigfry, josh, upper echelon or someone to make another video that i just cant get enough of this scam earth 2.
Just as Arya goes live I get to sit down and watch this.
He fucking did it. The glorious bastard he did it. He Nightmare World'd the Earth 2 shills. In discord no less, unreal. What a timeline
Pretty sure I said some time ago that Shane has complete control over the market and change whatever he wanted, and it has happened now, I'm not surprised at all.
class action?
I think this same process will repeat itself with a lot of these nft based projects that have cropped up like mushrooms after a rain. The problem with a lot of those games for me is that they are prioritizing making cash over making a viable mmo that people actually want to play. The people who invested their money into buying land for example will be left with worthless properties if those mmos start suffering from lack of players due to lack of actual content and due to lack of meaningful in-game mechanics.
that's crypto bro!
just think about bitcoin.
bitcoin is absolutely amazing by what it's supposed to be and it could've been of greate benefit for everyone.
then people come in that just care about profits and they take that technology and try to squeeze out money in every possible way.
nowadays i would say that bitcoin isn't of good use as a currency (at least if you can use alternatives) and same goes for basically every crypto-currency as the worth fluctuates way to much.
but because of bitcoin, if you manage to slap "crypto" onto something then you can trick people into thinking it's going to skyrocket like bitcoin.
this makes me angry every time i think about it.
bitcoin was supposed to pull the power about currencies out of the hands of the rich.
and now greedy people used it to make "crypto" the new "get rich quick" seal...
Wow, hold on, but can you drive in your Earh2 realm reborn, if not...I have that covered for you! That way you have it all! Got it playable a bit.
Well done mate you're a gem haha