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- While you are contemplating whether to pre-order the new Era 100 or 300 speakers from Sonos, let me share with you what I have researched in depth about these speakers. Some of these stuff Sonos hasn't been completely clear about telling us in the pre-launch materials.
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I only watched the list-item summary. However, this is excellent! I would never have thought to consider all of these details, pre Era 300, purchase Peter (especially the Wifi 6 line item for full functionality) Thanks so much; your Sonos expertise and value here in the TH-cam product-advertising-parading-as-"education"-swamp, is unparalleled!
You're awesome Peter. Always fantastically in-depth reviews.
Thanks Nat!
Great analysis and explanation. I look forward to a hands on review. I just subscribed to your channel.
Welcome aboard! Full review coming up;
I love your vidéos Peter, thank you for sharing your audiophile enthusiasm 🎉❤
Glad you enjoy it!
Good stuff as always Peter ! I would love to see new Amps. One Amp ”max” that powers 5 channels and another one that could be an Amp “mini” that could be used to power specific surround sound channels so we could have a true 7 channel surround sound system.
Peter, you just prompted me to disabled my SonosNet. Thank you. I’ve had the Sonos Move since launch but never considered disabling my SonosNet until you mentioned it. Not only that, but I also have WiFi 6 APs. Thanks again! Love watching your videos. Waiting for my Eras 300 to arrive!
How did you disable SonosNet? I will probably to the same and sell Sonos Boost ahead of the Era 300 arrival
@@giacintorenta7579 Unplug the Ethernet off whichever device has it plugged in. I had my Arc directly connected which enabled SonosNet.
Very cool! From the comments I am seeing here, there are quite a lot of upgraders to the Era 300s!
Don't know what it is but you're voice is asmr to me, it always smooths me.. That's it about audio is always a plus 😊
Good video mi friend I been learning a lot from you since I discovery sonos speaker 🎉🎉
Great detail explanation of new Eta 300
Brilliant and informative. Thank you.
Most welcome!
This is the only video where I found the answer to my question : is it possible to use the 3.5mm entry one Era speaker as a pair. The answer is YES ! Thanks !
Amazing info 👍
This channel should have more followers.
I also guess the era line will work with any of the Sonos sub but only on wi fi setup. Excelente video
Love your stuff PP! I have a questions. My media enjoyment room is roughly 14' x 25' with the Tv on one end in the middle of a 14' wall. I currently run a Arc with (2) gen 3 subs (opposite room corners) and (2) ones (mid room behind couch area) . Your concerns regarding Sub compatibility with era 300's caught my attention. Was considering upgrading my (2) ones for (2) era 300's. Not sure if this is going to be a good idea? Could use your insight.
Enjoy your videos about Sonos. I have kind of an off topic question. When Sonos does an app update, where can I find the details about the update? - Thank you
Hi Peter, need you help... is there any way to stream TH-cam audio from you Windows 10 PC to either Sonos One, Five, Beam wirelessly?
Hi Peter,
Thank you so much for your effort and awesome videos!
I have bought 2 era 300 speakers to use with the arc and sub gen 3 (instead of 2 Sonos one SL I have today).
Unfortunately Sonos wall mounts are not coming to my country. Do you think it's ok to use a regular shelf with nothing blocking from any side (up or left/right)? Will the sound be any less good? Or should I wait and buy wall mounts from abroad (which will take some time)?
Thanks again!
Nope ! The 300er Era is not really good for Dolby Atmos because they are on the backside !
Gilad, they should be good on the shelves so don't worry about it. In fact, if after you use them on the shelves and not satisfied, then you buy the wall mounts.
Top Man, Mr Pee
Always Love your Video's. Most informative. In fact, I would go as far as saying your my 😂No1 go to for anything Sonos. Your reviews are undiluted , factual but fair. Ohh and your review format is uniquely Pee-rfect😊
Have a good 👍🏾 Day
Thank you for your very generous kind words David!
Any idea on the possibility of only replacing the mounting part of the ones stand on the top?
Peter as far as Apple Music and spacial/atmos content for ARC; would it be accessed in Apple Music inside the Sonos app?
Thank you Peter, always informative. I’m holding off the era 300 as surrounds until your hands and ears on review is done. I am also wondering if someone will come up with a add on adapter that you can put on your Sonos One stands to hold your era 300’s. An extra $450aud for stands is a bit over the top.
Yeah the stands are really a bit too pricey especially if you already have stands. Currently no adaptors from Sonos but I am sure there will be some third party ones coming up.
I wish they had more info on using the wall mount inverted since they say it needs to bounce of the ceiling will it be as effective firing down . I had to purchase the extended plug for the other speakers as the era 300 extension is not available now .
Yeah, I couldn't find out more information except for the mounting drawings (how to).
Finally we have a 7.1.4 surround system for Sonos! I pre-ordered the Era 300's. My current setup is 1 arc, sub mini and 2x SL1's. Do you think I could still incorporate both the SL1's and the new 300's into my surround setup or would the 300's just replace the SL1's? According to their tech support when I asked during a support call for another issue they can but I've not really heard or seen that config anywhere else... Thanks Peter for the excellent and well-presented content!
They would replace the SL1's
@@alexbowden7524 So there's no way to include the existing SL's in the surround system? for even broader sound stage?
So, I currently have a boost via Ethernet, and a wireless Arc and Gen3 sub. If I add a pair of era 300’s for rear channel, will that mean I need to stop using the boost?
Great info! I currently have an arc+sub gen2 and ones as surrounds. I got the era300 pairs to replace my surrounds. I have the ones on the side of my couch on 2 side tables. Should I move the era300’s behind me where I sit, or leave them on the sides? Thanks Pete!
Behind you. I find Sonos surrounds speakers work best when push further back. But note that I have not experimented with the Eras yet. I am basing it on what I know with the existing Ones, Play:3s and Fives.
Hello Peter just wanted to say I greatly appreciate and respect your research and knowledge!! Can I ask if you know what kind of processor is in the era 300?
Off hand I can't remember. It's some 4 core CPU.
Awesome technical content.
I have a quick question not related to the video. I’ve been experimenting with a Sonos roam stereo pair added to my arc, sub & play 3 setup I think it widens my front channel experience.
What are your thoughts on this?
It plays the summed stereo from your roam setup. It will give the impression that the soundstage is wider. There are viewers suggesting that setup, with Ones, Fives, anything but really the effect is that the bass and left, right center, surround, are all playing through the Roams. So what happens is that while it widens the sound stage, it pulls the center image further apart such that dialogue seems to come from both sides, which is not ideal. And the surrounds are pulled to the front, which gives a shorter surround.
Peter, thanks for your time and expert opinion. It’s awesome that you respond to your viewers comments. Keep up the outstanding content, we are all behind you. Thanks again Mike from Germany
I have the side outward drivers firing off the walls which creates a very nice reflective effect! BT in a stereo pair only lasts about an hour before it goes funny and you have to reset. Weird, had exactly the same issue with a Google Home Max stereo pair via BT. Stick with streaming.
One other piece of advice, don't just have a clean line of sight for the era but also the stands for the era 300 are height adjustable- make sure the top firing speaker on the era is above the level of your ears - otherwise you will hear any overhead Atmos effects. This can apply to the Arc as well but it's only an issue if you sit very close to the Arc where as users are likely to sit very close to the Era300 so their height is very important
Thanks for the information Peter! Do you know when your era speakers are supposed to show up at your door?
Hopefully anytime soon!
I'm gonna wait for these to hit my local NEX. It may be a year...patience sometimes pays off. 🙂
Google “id me Sonos” for a military discount.
Another great video - thank you. Quick question - I currently have this setup: Arc + SUB + 2 SLs + Boost. I pre-ordered two Era 300 to replace the SLs. Should I disconnect the boost and stop using it when I get the Era 300 set up, since they do not work with the Boost?
No. You should cancel the pre-order, if they will only be used for rears/surrounds.
You will never hear the difference
Hi Peter thanks for the video. My setup consists of the Arc connected via ethernet, sub gen 3 wireless and SLs wireless. I am replacing the SLs for the Era 300s does this mean I cannot use ethernet to connect my Arc as all devices will have to be on the wireless network? Or can the Eras connect to the rest of the system only its using wifi 6 instead of the Arc's Sonosnet?
I have this exact same setup and was wondering the same thing. Really don’t want to have to go fully wireless, and trying to wire everything will be a bit of a pain.
Thanks for the video. I have a questions about SonosNet, I currently have my Arc pulled into ethernet, with my Sub and 1's connected to SonosNet. I currently have a Wifi6 router. Is it worth disconnecting my Arc from ethernet and just run all my devices on my wifi network?
Cheers Peter....
Cheers Chris!
Did you know that the era 300 should be installed inverse (upside down) when you hang it under the ceiling (less then two feet under the ceiling) 😮 as rear speakers? Just saw it in the installation guide for the wall mount.
Can you test that? When you have them wall mounted under the ceiling what gives the better experience normal or inverse ideal space and angle
Hi Peter, I have Arc+Sub G3+2 OneSL and it sounds fantastic.. craving to replace ones with fives very soon..just wondering how it will sound by also adding sub mini to my existing setup...may be its a foolish thought/question..but looking forward to hear your expert opinion..Thanks!
You cannot add the sub mini. Sub mini cannot be used in a dual sub setup.
Replace OneSLs with two Era 300. Cheaper and much better surround sound then Fives.
Can you Plug a laptop directly into a Sonos era speaker without using the line in? also without the delay? I'd love to use these or any Sonos speaker as a laptop speaker plugged in without lag.
When will you do a review video ?
Thinking of 2 300s for rears. In already have arc and sub. Thinking of getting another sub and putting the 2 subs in the rear with the 300s. Thoughts
I ordered 300s to replace my one's that I am using as surrounds with the Arc and dual subs, excited!
I moved my subs all around my living room and found the best sound was left front and right rear locations with the shape and size of my room(20x25). Definitely try different configs until you find what sounds best to you
@Sean Takacs thanks. Didn't think of left front right rear. Gonna try it. The best part in the living room I sit in the right rear of the room. So should be an experience. Just waiting for the sub to go down in price. I should've bought 2 when they had that sale in November
Hi David. When you are trying to position 2 subs, work on 1 first, leaving the other sub turned off. Find the best position which gives you the most bass, moving around until you are happy.
Once you fix the first sub, lock in the position. Turn on the second sub, and then move that sub around to find where the best position is. The best for the second sub is not necessarily one that will make your bass sound louder or overwhelm you. It's the position that creates a LARGER sweetspot for your bass.
The worst positions are those that creates a NULL in your listening position. Meaning to say the bass from the second sub cancels out the bass from your first sub in your listening position. Avoid at all costs.
While you positioning the second sub. Do not move the first sub from the position that you have determined to be the best for single sub. Just work on the positioning for the second sub.
Room layout and furnishing matters a lot so there is no best place for dual subs, or single subs for that matter. Common layouts are front left and front right. Another well loved config is diagonal corners of the room. But I would suggest that they don't end up in symmetrical corners where they look like a mirror image and at equal distance from you because that is likely to create nulls especially in a bigger room.
Concerts are fond of deploying subs grouped together when they are in open air location. Because without wall and ceiling reinforcement and bounce, single waves from subs positioned far apart might not even have a chance of reaching some listening positions.
I wonder if a USBC to USBC connection will work... (ie. all digital signal). Might make them intriguing for computer speakers if it wasn't for the delay... right now HDMI (or optical) is the only line-in without a delay...
Hi Peter, for the ERA300, when playing music from Apple Music, is Dolby Atmos (or Spatial Audio) only available if you play via the Sonos App with the crappy Apple Music integration or does it play Atmos as well if using the Apple Music app directly via Airplay 2 ?
It will play Atmos when using Apple Music app. The Sonos speaker is not getting the sounds via Airplay. It is being controlled over Airplay but the stream for Atmos is being streamed from Apple Music server direct. Now, before anyone quotes me on this, let me confirm this for sure when I get my hands on the speakers ok?
Hi Benny, thanks for being patient with this. I have the answer on this. Apple Music does not do Atmos over to Era 300 via Airplay. It doesn't work the same way as Apple Homepods. So the only way is for S2 App to pull the Atmos track from Apple Music.
@@PeterPee Thx Peter, I’ve bought them anyway as they are sounding incredible with my ARC setup.
Currently running Arc + 1s in a non-Atmos configuration. Will the 300s produce a wider rear sound stage than the 1s? In non Atmos will the 300 fire all the speakers with the exception of the upward-firing speaker?
I am going to have to figure that out! I will put my ears to it!
Audio lag… thx this was the thing I needed to hear, so using it with line in (MacBook or tv) for video streaming isn’t an option
Yes. That's correct.
A preordered a single era 300 just to see how it sounds and maybe get a second one and some new stands to replace my ones as surrounds.
I did that for the Fives a few years back. Went out to get the second Five the next day. :D
Hi Peter I’m a big Sonos fan I use two moves as a stereo pair as my main music speakers, was very disappointed when the mini sub was released and wouldn’t pair with the move , anyway I’ve pre ordered the era 300 and hoping it will live up to my expectations, I’d be very interested in your thoughts after listening to the 300 , if it will pair with a sub and is it worth the upgrade? As this would be my main speaker for listening to music , 🤘🏻😎🤘🏻
Yes, I will be testing them as music speakers. Keep a look out for my full review!
Be warned: you kinda need two Era 300s. I bought one and was disappointed. I bought another & made a stereo pair and was totally blown away.
Hey Peter, can you make a comparison with the beam gen 2 and era 300 vs arc with 2 one’s or era 100. Let’s see if the 2 upward speakers on the era 300 will create a equal sound scape.
Oh... good point!
Era 300 also adds better left-right sound with its side channels creating more impactful sound stage. (I've heard both setups suggested by you)
Wondering if you can place the 300's upside down in order to have atmos content coming direct to the seating position?
Yes, Sonos recommends it for higher speaker positions.
I currently have a play one stereo pair and sub mini for music. If I can’t have a stereo pair of Era 100’s and sub mini then they would have to go straight back.
Same thought... But I suspect my fears are unfounded. I am just being paranoid.
Hi Peter! I currently have a pair of sonos ones for my rear speakers with my arc, would it be worth the additional money in upgrading the ones for the era 300s as rears?
Thanks
I hate to be recommending more expensive stuff just because but these are definitely going to add to your Atmos enjoyment. But really, it's expensive... 900 bucks... before stands....
@@PeterPee I mean they should be better without question right? Or what’s the point 😂. But I have to ask someone like yourself for a better opinion. Argh my mrs is going to kill me.
Will the era 300s take over the upward firing drivers for the beam gen 2 the same way the sub mini takes over the low end for the beam if they make the beam 7.1.4 system and the beam technically doesn’t have any upwards firing drivers that’s the only thing I can think of that would explain that
Peter ok I will take your word and keep my 5's.
However I have beam in the bedroom should I pair with era 100 or 300? 15x12 room
But I have to update my beam to gen 2 😞
In the bedroom, which I assume you are going to watch at lower volumes, seriously, keep the Beam, don't need Gen 2... But... I can say what I want, you know what you want. Haha. I personally think I am going to love the Era 300 but I can't say they represent the best value. The Era 100s seem to be the best value.
Here's a question I'm not sure was answered, or I missed it, regarding Dolby Atmos with Apple Music:
Getting the 300s w/ Arc and Sub, so the full shebang. Normally to get Atmos music with Amazon, I had to play it through the Sonos S2 app. Apple Music has the Airplay feature on a phone to play through your setup, but not in Atmos.
Will I be able to play Atmos music via the Apple Music app on my phone now, or will it still be limited to the Sonos S2 app?
The only music service streaming Atmos from sonos app is Amazon Music. Sonos customers will have access to spatial audio on Apple Music starting March 28, 2023.
Are the power cables on 300’s long enough for wall mounting? My ones I had to spend more money for longer cable.
2 meters.
@@PeterPee thx
Question about playing spatial audio from Apple music app: If I add the era 300's as my rears with arc and gen 3 sub, will I still get the spatial audio sound through the arc and the era 300's? Placing the era 300 rears on the " full" setting vs the ambient mode for movies/true surround.
the " full" setting is used only for playing stereo music. With Dolby Atmos music it ignores this setting and use the back channels as with Dolby Atmos movies.
@@TomasHolcik thank you for your reply. So you're saying if I play Dolby Atmos spatial music, I don't need to change that setting? Just keep it on ambient.
@@pauld6860 yes.
Thanks!
definitely worth the knowledge gained
Oh my god Josh, you are really too kind. Thank you for the support all these time!
@@PeterPee Absolutely a pleasure Peter. Thank you for how much effort and intelligence you put into your channel, brand and the value we all receive. I got my first Arc 5.1."2" system in Oct. of '21. You've been instrumental in helping me get the most from it! Thank YOU!
So just to confirm what I think I heard....the ERA 300 used in conjunction with the Arc will use the Arc up firing speakers and the Era 300 up firing speakers together correct?
Yes
Hey Peter thanks for the video. Can the Era 100s be stereo paired when connecting via Bluetooth? I'm looking for a Airplay alternative due to connectivity issues when connecting a MacBook.
Yes it can.
Thanks!
Hi peter i have a sonos set up of a beam gen 2 + 2 play3 as sorround, could i add 1 era 300 or 2 era 100 to enhance my dolby atmos sound the financial budget is same, any advice? Thanks
Era 100 doesn't do atmos; era 300 does. You will need a pair of era 300 to work as surrounds. Can't use a single era 300 (or 100) as surround. Two era 300s will be a significant upgrade from play 3, and you'll pay for it. 💰
Hi PETE are you eventually reviewing the new Nakamichi dragon system?
I am asking Nakamichi directly if they would like me to review it. Not sure if I will get a response. :D I really can't afford to buy it if I am not going to use it full time!
I see I can connect a turntable with preamp to an era speaker. I read the Sonos info but not sure if I will get stereo or mono sound since you need to use a y splitter to connect. Do you know? Also trying to under if I can send the turntable music to other Sonos speakers. I believe yes, but not positive.
3,5mm line-in is a stereo connection. You can sent this audio to stereo-paired speaker or any other Sonos speaker in another room.
Looking forward to it, Peter! Can you recco 15.1.1 y/n then, too?
Hi Josh! No major issues and the sound is the same to my ears. I also think this update was for the Era 100/300 in preparation for the reviewers.
@@PeterPee Hey Peter! Great teaser for the Era line! Thanks for your time in response on 15.1.1.
What is a better setup for a similar budget? Beam Gen 2, sub mini and 2 era 100 VS Beam Gen 2 with 2 era 300.
Tough call! But I'd prioritise the Beam with sub mini and Era 100. Because you want the bass.
I'd go with the arc and Era 100. The arc already has plenty of bass
What we do to stop the leg/delley
Preordered 2 era 100, want to test it by myself how they are. Let's hope they do well. Bit of a investment only for testing smart speakers 😅 They will only be used for music.
For music, they should do quite well. When I first heard them, I was like, "they are loud".
Thank you Peter for this in depth analysis. I still have an awkward question. It is hard for me to place rear speakers. I also enjoy music in the standard stereo solution mode (two front speakers). I was wondering what kind of effect I would get if I combine a sonos arc and two Era 300 and place the Era on both sides of the arc? Will this be a better atmos experience than just the arc? Or does this setup make no sense?
It won’t work because the ERA speakers will always play the sounds that are designed to be heard from behind you in an atmos setup. With your setup you’ll be hearing these sound coming from up front which is against the creators intention.
Just place them the best you can behind or to the side of your listening position.
@@epap1375 pitty, I was hoping that the speakers would do 'something smart' and create a virtual atmos effect to the back.
@@epap1375 additional question. Let's say I got the Arc end Era 300 as back speakers. If I just play some stereo track how will the sound stage be?
@@virtuosity1974 It’s a good question and I’m not sure. From what I’ve seen when using your home theater setup for music it’s always a “compromise” since the arc takes center stage and the surround become “accessory” speakers that are barely audible. The app has a setting where you can set the surrounds to play “full” which makes them play the same sound level as the arc but this never felt right.
If your number one priority is music it seems like having a separate speaker pair always worked best I’m not sure how it’s going to work with atmos now.
@@epap1375 So for the music a pair of Era 100 and for surround an arc and two Era 300 in the back... Man, I feel a case of bankruptcy coming... 😅
I had the whole Sonos home theater set up and found the Atmos non existent due to the arc up firing speaker pointed straight up and not angled. The Arc really needs a update/refresh. However the 300s look to improve the Atmos setup because it actually has up firing drivers vs the Ones SL. What Sonos should do is let you connect 5 era 300 as a home theater. That would probably be a game changer but expensive.
What they should do is have an era 500, 700 and 900. The era 500 would be like an updated five, the 700 would be an updated beam and the 900 would be an updated arc.
Solid model naming nomenclature Andy! I love that!
Hi Ray, that's like the Phantom and what they did. They needed a separate controller though. But I agree that if they allow that... WOW. But the next thing is... how to get the HDMI connected.
In a version of wireless audio protocol (maybe bluetooth 6,7,8....) they may have Atmos capable versions! Which .... can link everything up wirelessly!
Peter, I am being lazy here and want to see whether you have the answer for my question: I have a system of Arc, Sub gen 1, if I add two Era 300, will I be able to hook all of them to wifi 6? (I am not sure about Sub gen 1 will work with wifi 6?) Thanks.
Sub gen 1 won't work on Wifi 6. But you don't have to concern yourself with that. They will still work on the same system. Just not all speakers on Wifi 6.
@@PeterPee Thanks!
Until now I could not figure out if I can still use Bluetooth wile the era 100/300 are paired as surround speakers?
You can't. When they are paired as surrounds, the bluetooth is disabled.
@@PeterPee too bad, thank you for the answer!
Now I want the 300's for fronts music listening as well as rears for movies but then what to do with the One's? Things are getting complicated.. and EXPENSIVE.
Not complicated. Only expensive. Haha. The Ones can go to the bathroom and kitchen. Or bedroom to play the news when you wake in the morning.
Thanks! I purchased the era 300 system, my system is connected tothe Sonos boost. Will I run into issues connecting the era 300 to my arc , sub gen 2, era replacement for my play 3.
Thanks Cutty! And no, you won't run into issues. The SonosNet devices and the Era devices will see each other well. No issues with that. SonosNet devices presents itself to the network too as wired devices.
Thank you
My head hurts due to info overload! Good stuff tho! 👍
I think my video later will fry your brain. Haha. Sorry but the video is long.
@@PeterPee Thanks for the warning, lol!
I’m in two minds at the moment.
With the new ‘ERA’ range of speakers coming out, and some people thinking that the Sub and Arc may be updated soonish, should I wait to get a full system now? (Arc, Sub and two 300’s)
I’m happy to get two 300’s now, and wait for an ERA ARC and ERA SUB if these are likely.
Any thoughts anyone?
Never thought about the Era Arc and Era Sub but hey! Get a full system, Sonos retains value very well over time.
Thanks Peter
It’s time for a comparison. Sonos 300 , Amazon Echo Studio and Sony SRS RA5000
I think one point worth mentioning is that, for Sonos Arc to play Atmos, the TV must output eARC. Just ARC will not work.
Arc will work. Arc will still give lossy Atmos. But eARC can give lossless Atmos.
Is there a delay with Bluetooth similar to using line in?
Yes, there will be a lag too. But when connected to a computer, the PC actually corrects for the delay over bluetooth. But that means that your video controls get a little laggy.
Wait, so the Era 300 cannot even pair with a Sonos One or an Era 100 for a surround system? Can it at least for a stereo system?
If I will have an Arc + Sub + 2 x Era100 as surround, what happends if I stream music through bluetooth to one of the Era ? I will hear music ONLY on that era ? Can I stream music using bluetooth to all Sonos speakers in my home ? (Arc, Sub, the other Era, maybe also multiroom) ?
That's the neat part: You won't. Sorry. Using them as surrounds disables Bluetooth (and line-in) conectivity. And using any Bluetooth enabled Sonos speaker lets you connect any other speaker to it as a normal multiroom setup. So standalone Era 100 can fill all your speakers with its sound coming over Bluetooth.
@@TomasHolcik Thanks for the answer. ( So I could buy 3 * Era 100 speakers : 2 for surround and 1 for bluetooth input to share on all the others via "multiroom" :)))) )
Hi peter i have a feeling that now you have the sonos era for testing . 😅hope u have 2 for testing the rear surrounds
Hi peter dropping that review video hopefully tomorrow. Hope that embargo gets lifted tonight🫣
Hi Peter or anyone in the comment section, I do not own a sound bar. I am looking to order 2 new era 100s or 300’s and am wondering I will be able to connect the 2 eras as standalone for TV watching via Bluetooth or the line in or do you still need to purchase a soundbar…? Help much appreciated thank you!
You need a soundbar.
Peter… holy cow --Nakamichi Dragon Dragon 11.4.6 Dolby Atmos Soundbar 🥱
12:30 I Actually didn't know that Sonos is getting rid of Sonos Net and just got a little knowledge about WiFi 6. I bought the Sonos Boost a couple years back just so all my Sonos speakers can have its dedicated own Wi-Fi system and doesn't interfere with anything else (a friend suggest I get it). Just recently I bought a WiFi 6 router. So should get rid of my Sonos Boost given my new router is WiFi 6 or just keep it? My Sonos system consist of a Sonos Arc, two subs (will be getting the Era 300 later) for the living room and two Sonos Ikea Symfonisk lamps and a Bean 2 in my bedroom.
Given that you have more than a couple of Sonos devices, I'd recommend that you keep the boost around. The signal range from the boost is a lot higher than most routers. Your Wifi 6 router also won't benefit the older speakers from Sonos without Wifi 6.
what about the wave guides what do you know?
The top driver is horn loaded. Very deep and higly directional. The front is wide and shallow, meant to disperse sound.
CAN YOU .. set up the 300 in a surround sound system with the Arc .. AND use the 300 as a stereo pair for decent streaming music? Or do I just forget about SONOS altogether ? It's a yes/no question
No.
What a tease!
Haha... Ok, I should have set it to 1 day instead of 2.
@@PeterPee dude, you are on fire, you can do whatever you want with your videos :-)
@@PeterPee easy fix, you could just release it now! I’m sure it’ll be worth the wait.
I have a Sonos Boost that powers my Sonos system: 2 Sonos One in different rooms and more importantly Sonos Arc + Sub Gen 3 + 2 Play:3 (which I plan to upgrade to Era 300). When I upgrade to Era 300 will my system stop using the Boost entirely? Or just for the rears? Time to sell my Sonos Boost?
My suspicion is that it will just use Wifi 6 for the Eras. The rest of the speakers should still be connected on the Boost.
I have now a Wi-Fi 5 router so probably the Sonos Boost is now redundant anyway …
What’s a wifi 6 ?
I was going to get the 300's but as I have a Playbar, I think I will pass as I don't want to spend for another bar.
If you have the Playbar, they can't connect... and even if they allowed it, it won't process atmos. If you are happy with the Playbar, probably keep it till it dies. :) Or deploy to a second screen in the house.
Sold my fives already. Waiting for 300s. Will use them as rears for Arc and sub gen 3. Felt so sad giving away the fives. Tears almost rolled down. Did I do a mistake ? 70% movies 30% music streaming is my workload 😊
Oh dear... The fives are still going to be superior for pure stereo music
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Very bass heavy even with one Five on the floor the bass is amazing I’m still looking for a second Five to complete a set.
I am doing the same, even though I have a non-flat high ceiling, taking the plunge with era 300 and selling fives.
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i'm not clear about something...my entire system runs off sonos boost.....are you telling me that the era300 will now not connect to the boost ????
That is correct. But they will still work with your wifi network. I believe your whole system will still show up together.
Peter points out all the subtle limitations that are not apparent in the marketing materials. Most importantly, he describes specific scenarios that accentuate these limitations and potentially turning them into dealbreakers. If you're planning to buy something, Peter's video is the MOST COMPREHENSIVE review you can possibly spend your time on.
Will ERAs give more support for FLAC than ONE's?
That I am not very familiar. Let me experiment around with that.
Hi peter is this a in depth review video?
This is a dissection of almost everything that Sonos has said or not said. Not a full review yet because I still don't have the unit on hand to test fully!
Hi Peter! I have my arc hooked up via ethernet! Will II have any problems adding the era's as surrounds even though the arc is running on Sonos net? and lastly I do not have Wi-Fi 6.
Same question here, Beam Gen2 and Sub Gen3 are connected via Ethernet, but for a movie theater setup the Eras need to be connected wireless. Will that work?
Yes that will work. To the controller app, everything will appear on your network to work together.
I’ve put the era 300s in my cart several times now but the design of them makes it a pain to figure a way to integrate them in my space. It’s like they made them funky shaped and not backwards compatible with previous stands bc they don’t want to lose money on new stand/mounts sales
Also you worded your statement a bit odd. The era only pairs as surround with the beam Gen 2 and arc aka systems that support atmos. But you made it sound like they only work in surround for atmos content only.
Oh sorry, not my intention. They work as surrounds, not just for atmos content.
Hi will there be ERA 500 ?
Rumors are that once the 100 and 300 are past the Christmas time maybe next summer an Era 500 will be added to the lineup.
I suspect another year... Next release in H2 of 2023 should be headphones... That has been teased way too long.
@@PeterPee I agree. The release of an Era 500 will definitely hurt the sales of the Era 300 (unless it is really expensive), so Sonos would better wait for a while before releasing it.
It will be interesting to hear what happens when using the era300 in a Dolby atmos home theater setup when you then listen to Dolby atmos music directly from Apple or Amazon. Would you Ideally want the soundbar to become the rear so you get the most of of the era300s. However this would put the sound stage the wrong way if you find yourself sitting in the home theatre setup. If the era300s stay as rears for Dolby music would this be inferior?
Great question I’m wondering the same
Good question. Right now, my suspicion is that it will still be acting as rear speakers. I have not seen anything in the app that indicates that you are able to swing 180 around.
Same as if you were using the Fives in surround config, I'd recommend that you set the surrounds to play full instead of ambient when playing music.
Dolby Atmos music is played the same way as Dolby Atmos movies and ignores the full/ambient settings used for stereo music.
Is it WiFi 6 or WiFi 6E?
Wifi 6.
Just added a sub mini to my setup and it’s quite underwhelming to say the least
that's the first time I've heard that. I'm just about to get one for my little setup (two ones, plus soon two more 100s).
If you go to the Sonos subReddit, there's nothing but praise for it…I haven't seen one person say it hasn't added a lot.
Are you asking it to do too much? What part of your Sonos set up is it supplementing?
The sonos subreddit is mostly fanboys.
@@Yowzoe Not really. I placed it in a area of the room my other 3 larger sonos subs were not fully covering. I decided to go with a mini because it fits perfectly below a little table stand that I have one of my sonos 5’s sitting on. Ive just found that you need to turn the sub audio to at least plus 10 to even notice the sub mini is there. I run my other subs between plus 1 and plus 4. I suppose the mini would be decent in a bedroom or something.
@@videostar348 that's very true, it's very full of stans. But there's a fair number of people critical. They get voted down, but you do get a picture of where Sonos falls short after a while
@@diggergeensen860 whoa--that's a whole lotta subs! Let me say this: if you ever decide that Sonos isn't for you after all and you need divest yourself of one of those subs at a steep discount, please remember me (I have Champagne tastes on a decidedly beer budget)