Kareem is a true gentlemen. I used to live across the street from the player who directly preceded Lew (at the time) at UCLA. We went to the same HS and he was a highly recruited player in both BB and BSB. He was (I think) a HS AA in both. He was recruited to UCLA for BB and chose that path which at that time was the most prestigious athletic scholarship you could get. He had a good year in freshman ball and then the next year, Lew came in. I saw my neighbor that summer and he said "wow!! I shoulda chosen baseball!!"
Honestly I think he has one of the more successful post-basketball careers in the sense that his mind is astute and he’s so intellectual and in tune with society - I admire that in a human being and think that is success over money. God bless him.
A point Dan & Kareem made in their conversation is that it difficult (almost unfair) to compare great players from different eras. All the players Dan mentioned would be worthy of GOAT considerations but only in a video game could you match them up & even programmers/developers for such have their own bias. Kareem's sky-hook was undeniably almost impossible to defend & what he's doing in his 70's on social justice issues is as impressive as his abilities playing basketball - in ways more so.
@@michaeljordanfansaretheworst Good morning to you! I hope you"re doing well and your channel too. Sorry to see Wes Unseld pass, he was a helluva player. I really appreciated his game and you can see aspects of his game live on through Kevin Love.
Simply The Greatest. I love his humility. What an era he grew up in. Racism, hostility. He was always, and still is a Class Act. I could listen to his stories endlessly.
When I was in high school my dad took me to the Philadelphia 76ers game I saw cream play when he was with Milwaukee is the biggest man I’ve ever seen in my entire life great player and a great man
Gentlemen..I was fortunate to be around the 60's Lew Alcindor & UCLA Bruins. Very towering young man at the time. The only man who played with the great Oscar Robertson and Magic Johnson.
Jabbar has grown in humility over the years.... There were periods of his career where he was pretty much unstoppable offensively, although Wilt and Thurmond, slowed him down somewhat. In my view he was NOT a great defensive center(average rebounder for a center), but his longevity was unsurpassed...20 years. Wilt, Russell, Shaq, Hakeem, and Jabbar are probably top 5 centers all time. Jabbar is a top scorer and #3 rebounder all time ONLY because he played 20 years.. Wilt and Russ played 13. but longevity has its place. I never liked Kareem as a player... arrogant, a whiner at times on the court, vindictive at times(the sucker punch), but he has mellowed and gives Wilt and Russ their due. Live long and prosper Kareem!
He is absolutely correct there isn't any comparison. There were only 8 teams when Bill Russel played. I'm no expert but odds are better with less team. They also played a different position.
The Bucks from 1969 to 1974 won 304 games and the Knicks 266 and yet Willis Reed was 15 and 6 against Kareem or Jabbar was 6 and 15 against Willis! In the 1970 playoffs in the 5 game Bucks series and the first 4 games of the finals against Wilt, Willis Reed scored 266 points with 120 rebounds shooting 53%. He was injured early in game 5, missed game 6 and Wilt had 45 and 27 and in game 7 could hardly walk but gutted out 27 minutes to inspire the Knicks as Clyde starred and DD had 18 points and 17 rebounds. Willis was injured in the 1971 playoffs tearing shoulder muscles in his left shooting arm and the Knicks lost for the only time in 6 playoffs to the Bullets in 7, 93-91, was out in the 1972 playoffs with knee surgery and Wilt finally won a title as a Laker and in the 1973 finals Willis with a bad left knee was able to gut out 96 minutes in games 3 to 5 against Wilt scoring 61 points with 33 rebounds shooting 54% winning a second MVP finals award. Only bad science and medicine could stop Willis Reed! A healthy Reed to 35 like Russell or almost 37 like Wilt and he would of won 5-6 NBA titles easy! Kareem Jabbar a 56% shooter and stud as a Buck averaging 30 and 16 and yet against Willis Reed 6 wins and 15 losses shooting only 50%! Jabbar was lucky Reed was injured in the 1971 playoffs or the Knicks would of played the Bucks and Jabbar would of had no NBA titles until he had Magic!
In College....Russell in the 50's was every bit as good, Big O in the early 60's, Bill Walton was unstoppable in early 70's, and Pistol Pete in college was crazy good! 44 ppg. Jabbar is in the conversation, of course!
The only people who think like you about how people are hateres or downplaying or dismissing are you strange ridiculous MIchael Jordan fans you people are seriously in love with Michael Jordan .
@@michaeljordanfansaretheworst you seem to be in love with Michael Jordan more than anyone else considering you have an entire TH-cam channel dedicated to downplaying his career. You Michael Jordan haters are strange
@@x-man9473 If you listen to Patrick talk about Jordan he seems salty probably because MJ didn't include him in doc. 23 goat. People say Kareem. Ask any GM who they would choose to start their team?
@@stevepemper Kareem is rightfully upset at Jordan for being silent on human rights issues. But using that anger to downplay Jordan's legacy is petty of Kareem.
@@mr.positive1829 No, not “rightfully”. Stupidly. Jordan was a basketball player, not an activist, not a politician, not the president. He stayed in his lane and stuck to what he knew. He didn’t spout off in the media about things before having all the facts for clout like LeBron.
I'm sure Dem dan will be praying to allah this weekend for abdul (ja coors light). Props to Jim Rome. Whichever the political winds blow for Dem danny.
I love Dan but I am so incredibly pissed off that Pat McAfee show on isn't today because of the blacked-out Tuesday but Dan is and riches and everybody else is except for Pat
@@fresh2def23231 - I get ya - it's a time to be nice and say things nicely. But as you can see - we've plenty of room for improvement. Let's all help each other get to where we all want to be, and when we get there we can be as polite as possible to one another. That's my version of heaven on Earth.
He's a worthy candidate b/c of his four sports. OTH, it's just hard to deny that Bo excelled in three and exceeded Jackie's level of excellence in at least two. In fact, if you just consider the LEVEL of pure athletic accomplishment (meaning how great was he?) and did he accomplish feats that no one ever had? it's hard to deny Bo that spot. OTHOH, Jackie overcame cultural issues that Bo tasted but didn't have to the same extent and maybe no one EVER has since. IMO.....two worthy claimants to that throne....Jackie and Bo.
@@michaeljordanfansaretheworst Actually, I'm a Bird fan, fruitcake. I thought Bird was a much better all-around player than Jordan. Bird came right into the league winning and playing team basketball, while it took Jordan a half-decade to figure it out. Shooting, passing, rebounding... Bird was better than Jordan at all of them. As for Jackie Robinson, he wasn't even the best player in baseball while he was playing, so how can he be the best athlete? An all-time greatest athlete should at the very least be the best in his main sport. Robinson wasn't even close though.
@@jfowler7604 hmmmm... I read Jackie's biography, great man, tremendous athlete. 3 other candidates. Wilt, Bo, and .....Jim Thorpe(talk about racial hurdles??/ look him up!!)
@@auschwitzwelcomecommittee3593 Some good comments about Bird...... hmmm... greatest athlete? multi-sport.... or speed, strength and cordination with no greatest in a sport?? tough call. look up Jim Thorpe. Bo has to be close. and Wilt as well.
Kareem is a true gentlemen. I used to live across the street from the player who directly preceded Lew (at the time) at UCLA. We went to the same HS and he was a highly recruited player in both BB and BSB. He was (I think) a HS AA in both. He was recruited to UCLA for BB and chose that path which at that time was the most prestigious athletic scholarship you could get. He had a good year in freshman ball and then the next year, Lew came in. I saw my neighbor that summer and he said "wow!! I shoulda chosen baseball!!"
It was a pleasure to see him play in Milwaukee. Nothing better then Kareem vs Wilt or any of the other great centers in that era.
watching The Legend jack up a 3 in his shorty shorts is pretty damn close
Honestly I think he has one of the more successful post-basketball careers in the sense that his mind is astute and he’s so intellectual and in tune with society - I admire that in a human being and think that is success over money. God bless him.
I don't care much for the GOAT argument, all I know is that Kareem would be my 1st pick on any pick up team anytime anywhere.
"Tell your old man to drag Walton & Lanier up and down the court for 48 minutes."
Funny movie,too:”Airplane” with Peter Graves,Leslie Nielsen.
LoL! Was hysterical when he was dragged out of the co-pilots seat (after eating the bad fish..) he was wearing his Laker's uniform :-D..
I was going to write, "I know you, you're Rodger Murdoch and you're pilot for Trans World Airline." I think that's the airline.
It's such a subjective thing as to who the 🐐 is but Kareem is right there in the conversation, no doubt about it.
Well hello there
In my opinion you have to separate centers from guards and forwards. Just completely different players.
To me, he is the GOAT.
A point Dan & Kareem made in their conversation is that it difficult (almost unfair) to compare great players from different eras. All the players Dan mentioned would be worthy of GOAT considerations but only in a video game could you match them up & even programmers/developers for such have their own bias. Kareem's sky-hook was undeniably almost impossible to defend & what he's doing in his 70's on social justice issues is as impressive as his abilities playing basketball - in ways more so.
@@michaeljordanfansaretheworst Good morning to you! I hope you"re doing well and your channel too. Sorry to see Wes Unseld pass, he was a helluva player. I really appreciated his game and you can see aspects of his game live on through Kevin Love.
Living legend
I always love hearing Kareem being asked about the old NBA. Him and Wilt are the best at interviews.
This guy is the goat.
🐐 of ALL CENTERS.
Offense & Defense
College & Pro
Always a class act. There are videos of KAJ playing at UCLA and in Milwaukee. Anyone who says he isn't the GOAT needs to go watch.
Plus - he's got as many titles as MJ.
I'm old enough (65) to have watched Kareem play with the Bucks when I lived in Milwaukee. Believe me, he would have dominated even in today's NBA.
How bout the Goat talk cease for at a day please it’s totally not the topic for every single day
Simply The Greatest. I love his humility.
What an era he grew up in. Racism, hostility. He was always, and still is a Class Act.
I could listen to his stories endlessly.
Who the hell gave this interview thumbs down, 8 people that are losers.
When I was in high school my dad took me to the Philadelphia 76ers game I saw cream play when he was with Milwaukee is the biggest man I’ve ever seen in my entire life great player and a great man
Dan's words of the month. "it felt like", "it feels like"
14:52 Right here is my favorite Kareem moment of all time!
Nice Rat Pack art!
Kareem always is the calm
Don't know why, but love to see Kareem smile.
Gentlemen..I was fortunate to be around the 60's Lew Alcindor & UCLA Bruins. Very towering young man at the time. The only man who played with the great Oscar Robertson and Magic Johnson.
GOAT 🐐 is whom you think is the GOAT 🐐,regardless what others say.
It’s opinion based , don’t let the sports media control your opinion
this is about the police who need to change. murder is murder and the law should show us.
also, the police policies and training that teach and allow them to kill and be reckless needs to be changed altogether.
Jabbar has grown in humility over the years.... There were periods of his career where he was pretty much unstoppable offensively, although Wilt and Thurmond, slowed him down somewhat. In my view he was NOT a great defensive center(average rebounder for a center), but his longevity was unsurpassed...20 years. Wilt, Russell, Shaq, Hakeem, and Jabbar are probably top 5 centers all time. Jabbar is a top scorer and #3 rebounder all time ONLY because he played 20 years.. Wilt and Russ played 13. but longevity has its place. I never liked Kareem as a player... arrogant, a whiner at times on the court, vindictive at times(the sucker punch), but he has mellowed and gives Wilt and Russ their due. Live long and prosper Kareem!
He is absolutely correct there isn't any comparison. There were only 8 teams when Bill Russel played. I'm no expert but odds are better with less team. They also played a different position.
The Bucks from 1969 to 1974 won 304 games and the Knicks 266 and yet Willis Reed was 15 and 6 against Kareem or Jabbar was 6 and 15 against Willis!
In the 1970 playoffs in the 5 game Bucks series and the first 4 games of the finals against Wilt, Willis Reed scored 266 points with 120 rebounds shooting 53%. He was injured early in game 5, missed game 6 and Wilt had 45 and 27 and in game 7 could hardly walk but gutted out 27 minutes to inspire the Knicks as Clyde starred and DD had 18 points and 17 rebounds.
Willis was injured in the 1971 playoffs tearing shoulder muscles in his left shooting arm and the Knicks lost for the only time in 6 playoffs to the Bullets in 7, 93-91, was out in the 1972 playoffs with knee surgery and Wilt finally won a title as a Laker and in the 1973 finals Willis with a bad left knee was able to gut out 96 minutes in games 3 to 5 against Wilt scoring 61 points with 33 rebounds shooting 54% winning a second MVP finals award.
Only bad science and medicine could stop Willis Reed! A healthy Reed to 35 like Russell or almost 37 like Wilt and he would of won 5-6 NBA titles easy!
Kareem Jabbar a 56% shooter and stud as a Buck averaging 30 and 16 and yet against Willis Reed 6 wins and 15 losses shooting only 50%!
Jabbar was lucky Reed was injured in the 1971 playoffs or the Knicks would of played the Bucks and Jabbar would of had no NBA titles until he had Magic!
Hold on there, DP!!! Russell never lost? Better call Bob Pettit and ask his thoughts on that.
The Best NBA and College player ever, but a terrible pilot.
Dunno about that. One time I saw him as a pilot seemed to be doing just fine until the inflight meal of fish took him out of the game ;-).
In College....Russell in the 50's was every bit as good, Big O in the early 60's, Bill Walton was unstoppable in early 70's, and Pistol Pete in college was crazy good! 44 ppg. Jabbar is in the conversation, of course!
I wanna see jabbar vs shaq
14:50 😆💪🏽
that laugh
Listening to both these guys downplaying MJ. Jordan was the greatest player of all time. College?? It's about the NBA.
The only people who think like you about how people are hateres or downplaying or dismissing are you strange ridiculous MIchael Jordan fans you people are seriously in love with Michael Jordan .
@@michaeljordanfansaretheworst you seem to be in love with Michael Jordan more than anyone else considering you have an entire TH-cam channel dedicated to downplaying his career. You Michael Jordan haters are strange
@@x-man9473 If you listen to Patrick talk about Jordan he seems salty probably because MJ didn't include him in doc. 23 goat. People say Kareem. Ask any GM who they would choose to start their team?
@@stevepemper Kareem is rightfully upset at Jordan for being silent on human rights issues. But using that anger to downplay Jordan's legacy is petty of Kareem.
@@mr.positive1829 No, not “rightfully”. Stupidly. Jordan was a basketball player, not an activist, not a politician, not the president. He stayed in his lane and stuck to what he knew. He didn’t spout off in the media about things before having all the facts for clout like LeBron.
Wes Unseld
I'm sure Dem dan will be praying to allah this weekend for abdul (ja coors light). Props to Jim Rome. Whichever the political winds blow for Dem danny.
How about bad black peoples! Is there such a thing!
I love Dan but I am so incredibly pissed off that Pat McAfee show on isn't today because of the blacked-out Tuesday but Dan is and riches and everybody else is except for Pat
Dan, your show is ok, but you still have that pervert on your staff, he will take your show down, believe it
I'd average 75 points in his his era
you would get your ass handed to you
This has zero to do with race. Zero. It's only about crime and hate.
I'm sorry - but you just can't discount people's feelings because you've not experienced their path. It's not ZERO - it's much more.
@@murraywestenskow2896 I was getting ready to really go on a onslaught of words until I read your comment.. thank you
@@fresh2def23231 - I get ya - it's a time to be nice and say things nicely. But as you can see - we've plenty of room for improvement. Let's all help each other get to where we all want to be, and when we get there we can be as polite as possible to one another. That's my version of heaven on Earth.
Nick is a BOT
Murray westenskow thank you for the kind words. We need more of this.
Great player but awkward af
Jackie Robinson, greatest athlete of all time? LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!
Usually people who act like you are Michael Jordan fans then
He's a worthy candidate b/c of his four sports. OTH, it's just hard to deny that Bo excelled in three and exceeded Jackie's level of excellence in at least two. In fact, if you just consider the LEVEL of pure athletic accomplishment (meaning how great was he?) and did he accomplish feats that no one ever had? it's hard to deny Bo that spot. OTHOH, Jackie overcame cultural issues that Bo tasted but didn't have to the same extent and maybe no one EVER has since. IMO.....two worthy claimants to that throne....Jackie and Bo.
@@michaeljordanfansaretheworst Actually, I'm a Bird fan, fruitcake. I thought Bird was a much better all-around player than Jordan. Bird came right into the league winning and playing team basketball, while it took Jordan a half-decade to figure it out. Shooting, passing, rebounding... Bird was better than Jordan at all of them.
As for Jackie Robinson, he wasn't even the best player in baseball while he was playing, so how can he be the best athlete? An all-time greatest athlete should at the very least be the best in his main sport. Robinson wasn't even close though.
@@jfowler7604 hmmmm... I read Jackie's biography, great man, tremendous athlete. 3 other candidates. Wilt, Bo, and .....Jim Thorpe(talk about racial hurdles??/ look him up!!)
@@auschwitzwelcomecommittee3593 Some good comments about Bird...... hmmm... greatest athlete? multi-sport.... or speed, strength and cordination with no greatest in a sport?? tough call. look up Jim Thorpe. Bo has to be close. and Wilt as well.
One racist to another !
Living legend