*Laimbeer should be in the Hall of Fame just for the fact he's Bill Laimbeer. Just like all the " Stars " who had a say in the NBA's progression through the decades, the name Laimbeer is just as well known as Bird, Magic, MJ, Dr. J ..... etc; etc:*
One of my personal favorites Bill Laimbeer master of the mind games. That’s brilliant when you get opponents thinking about you & not their own game or team.
Laimbeer is one of my favorite centers of all time. "His Heinous" was the man in the middle. He was like the nasty Bob Pettit of centers, maximizing his allegedly limited talents to make significant contributions to his team. An awesome defensive rebounder and probably the best box-out artist of all time. And one of the best outside shooting big men of all time. His psy-war tactics proved invaluable to the evolution of defensive demon Dennis Rodman.
Ive Never watched basketball since the early 90's. Have no interest in it these days whatsoever. But i stumbled across the 30 for 30 program last night on Netflix. I was too young to remember this Pistons team but I can respect the hell out of Bill Laimbeer after watching that. Theres one thing I respect tough competitors And Laimbeer was a tough sob.
Bill Laimbeer is my Favorite player. It was entertainment and real defense. Modern nba is a game of horse with defenders parting like the red sea if someone goes for a dunk.
I have watched every NBA finals since 1965 and I think lambeer had to play dirty because he was a shitty player . Lambeer could not dribble and drive. . He could not block a shot so people drove to the bucket on him. Watch all the dunks on him. Secondly, he was flat footed and had no post game. All he had was a shot and as far as rebounding all you had to do was turn you r back and block out. Most of his rebounds were on the defensive side of the ball. Offensive rebounds are much harder. He could not guard anyone today. There are so many better and more mobile centers. I would have loved to see him try to pull his shit on Willis Reed. He would have kicked Lambeer's ass. Reed was better at every aspect of the game and also had a wonderful outside shot. Lambeer got his just reward. He is not in the HOF(no one rewards a thug). He did not get a coaching job. He was basically kicked out of the league for being a total asshole. You know that this gets under his sj kin no matter what he says.
I hated the Pistons. However, they were a great, great basketball team. Great chemistry, outstanding talent, well coached, and tremendous heart and guts. Made for great basketball and the most competitive basketball ever.
I have watched every NBA finals since 1965 and I think lambeer had to play dirty because he was a shitty player . Lambeer could not dribble and drive He could not block a shot so people drove to the bucket on him. Watch all the dunks on him. Secondly, he was flat footed and had no post game. All he had was a shot and as far as rebounding all you had to do was turn you r back and block out. Most of his rebounds were on the defensive side of the ball. Offensive rebounds are much harder. He could not guard anyone today. There are so many better and more mobile centers. I would have loved to see him try to pull his shit on Willis Reed. He would have kicked Lambeer's ass. Reed was better at every aspect of the game and also had a wonderful outside shot. Lambeer got his just reward. He is not in the HOF(no one rewards a thug). He did not get a coaching job. He was basically kicked out of the league for being a total asshole. You know that this gets under his skin no matter what he says.
Bill should be in the Hall of Fame, based on his two championships as a player and multiple championships as a coach in the WNBA. I went to high school with Bill, and he lead us to the CIF championship in southern California. He was all about winning, even then. Great shooter, and great rebounder, not just a tough defender.
He cant even crack the top 5 on the All Time All White depth chart at his position, Luc Longley won titles but like Laimbeer doesnt deserve to be in the HOF..... Rik Smits isnt in the HOF and anybody who says Laimbeer was a better player than him is delusional at the very least lol.....
@@bigglilwayne7050 ARE YOU KIDDING? Lets compare Luc Longley to Laimbeer. IT isn't even close. Laimbeer 9.7 rebounds per game, lead the league in rebounding, 10,400 career rebounds 12.9 points per game 13,790 points, 49% shooting. 83% free throw shooter, and was the first outside shooting center. Made six three pointers in a NBA finals game. 1068 games played averaging 31 minutes, 861 games as starter. Has his jersey retired by the Pistons. Retired a Piston. six seasons in a row without missing a game. 12 seasons of more than 80 games played. 4 time all star. 2 time NBA champion, 3 time WNBA champion as coach. WNBA coach of the year. Luc Longley 4.9 rebounds per game, NEVER lead the league in rebounding, just 2,794 career rebounds 7.2 points per game just 4,090 points, 46% shooting. 76% free throw shooter. and NEVER SHOT A THREE IN HIS CAREER. Just 567 games played averaging 21 minutes, NEVER had a season where he didn't miss a games, 362 games as starter. NEVER had his jersey retired, was traded to Phoenix for Mark Bryant, Martin Müürsepp, Bubba Wells (two of those never played a minute for the Bulls) most games played in a season just 59. Always injured. ZERO times all star. 3 times NBA champion, ZERO times champion as a coach. I could do the same comparison with Rik Smits with similar results. THE DELUSIONAL ONE IS YOU.
@@arizjones You jumped on the person's stats who was irrelevant in wtf I was even talking about.... You typed a whole bunch of bullshit to avoid actually comparing Rik Smits and Lamebeer, not a stat one listed for the Dunkin Dutchman.... Blocks would be a nice starting point or career PPG.... And since you're so hung up on Luc Longley, substitute his name with a Mark Eaton or a Ron Seikaly and then type out some paragraphs....
@@bigglilwayne7050 Go ahead, make the comparison on stats. Go for it. Substantiate you claim. Tell me how many championships Smits has, how many rebound per game, many career points and rebounds, how many games played? How many three pointers. How many three pointers in the finals, how many times was he was an all star? How many championships does he have as a coach? Again Laimbeer will come out on top. You are the one that compared him to Luc longley, not me, and now you are claiming he is irrelevant? Then why did you mention him? It is not my job to substantiate you false claim, you are lazy in your response, as I expected. Mark Eaton? Are you kidding? he beats Laimber in one category, blocks, he scored 6 points a game, Laimbeer has more rebounds per game, lead the league in rebounding, played more than double the number of games, scored more, won championships was an all star, shot higher percentage from the field and free throws. And Laimbeer actually could shoot three pointers. It isn't even close.
The Celtics didn't shake hands and the Pistons were like meh. The Pistons didn't shake hands with the Bulls, and the Bulls are still crying 30 years later.
@@mikecushing7276 right on about mahorn, father time messes with your memory sometime, how I could've forgot him. Bad Boy Bill couldn't jump, but he sure could tackle.
I think Laimbeer is a little bit underrated. Had a rebounding title, made 4 All Star teams and was a good 3-point shooter, very rare for a center at that time. You don't have to like him and I'm not saying he's an all-time great player here but when you add the back-to-back titles to that resume you get somebody who's at the very least objectively a total overachiever as a 3rd round draft pick. He should be known for more than the physicality and "Bad Boy" image, as should that team in general for that matter.
Still don't know why they bring up the Celtics walking off the floor in 1988. They were TOLD to do that by the Silverdome security and NBA security at the game due to the fans rushing the floor and the heated rivalry involved.
@@mjbachman3027 Uh, that's what I said. It was at the Silverdome. Go back and watch the end of the game. Fans were already coming on the floor with seconds left. NBA and SIlverdome security wanted the Celtics stars off the floor before the fans rushed onto it.
@@bigdawg7262 I went to two of the 1988 NBA Eastern Conference Finals playoff games against the Celtics, and also two games in the Finals games against the Lakers. The temperature was really hot inside the Silverdome, as well as outside, as we had hardly any rain that spring. I worked less than 4 miles east of the Silverdome, and the grass was all dried out along M-59 in front of our company headquarters.
He played dirty but it was a physical era. He hurt some amazing players and that was how it was. He might have been the champion maker but I still hate him and I suspect he doesn’t care.
Bill is wrong. They were not hosed on a phantom foul. There was body contact and if anything he committed so many other fouls throughout the course of the playoffs. Bad Boys Pistons could not play clean ball and win. Facts
Pat Riley knows more about it than you. Here is a Pat Riley quote about it: ""In 1988, when we got Detroit and Kareem hit that phantom sky hook foul, he had to make the two free throws," Riley said Thursday. "He didn't choke. He did not choke on the free throws. He had to make them. He made them. And that led us to a seventh game and a win. But the next year, Detroit came back and swept us." SO PAT RILEY CALLS IT A PHANTOM FOUL.
Bologna. Alcindor threw his forearm into Laimbeer to create space. Easy no call. On top of that, Alcindor travelled _prior_ to the contact. If you're the guy who previously whined to me about non-relevant fouls, than you're hopeless. Alcindor got away with a travel and _both_ players made contact. Period.
CORRECTION BILL : YOU BEAT US IN 1989 WITHOUT MAGIC & BYRON SCOTT! SO YOU WENT UP AGAINST A BACKCOURT WITH DAVID RIVERS OMFG! & TONY CAMPBELL LORD HAVE MERCY! I WOULD HOPE THAT YOU COULD SWEEP US!
@@synowiecj Detroit had ISAIAH Injured through 3/4 of game 6. Magic and byron basically missed the whole finals vs a tough pistons. Let's say Detroit beats the Lakers in 1989 with magic and byron for the whole series right? I'd bet a GUARANTEED winning lottery ticket that it wouldn't be a sweep!
Dan , I had to force myself to get thru that. Love your show , but that idiot , i just cant stand. You hear Bird talking about him , sliding his foot under you when you jumped up , to hurt you & that just isnt what B-Ball is all about. If you dont have the talent , dont play! If you wanna box , go do that. If he wanted attention , he should go online & throw a bitch-fit to get it , like normal people. =). His player efficiency rating , where the AVG is 15 , Bill is 16...so , there ya go.
The Pistons three guards were the best three guard rotation in the history of NBA. Only the early 1970's New York Knicks rotation of Clyde Frazier, Earl Monroe and Dick Barnett comes close to equaling Isiah Thomas, Joe Dumars and Vinnie Johnson.
*Laimbeer should be in the Hall of Fame just for the fact he's Bill Laimbeer. Just like all the " Stars " who had a say in the NBA's progression through the decades, the name Laimbeer is just as well known as Bird, Magic, MJ, Dr. J ..... etc; etc:*
One of my personal favorites Bill Laimbeer master of the mind games. That’s brilliant when you get opponents thinking about you & not their own game or team.
Laimbeer is one of my favorite centers of all time. "His Heinous" was the man in the middle. He was like the nasty Bob Pettit of centers, maximizing his allegedly limited talents to make significant contributions to his team. An awesome defensive rebounder and probably the best box-out artist of all time. And one of the best outside shooting big men of all time. His psy-war tactics proved invaluable to the evolution of defensive demon Dennis Rodman.
Ive Never watched basketball since the early 90's. Have no interest in it these days whatsoever. But i stumbled across the 30 for 30 program last night on Netflix. I was too young to remember this Pistons team but I can respect the hell out of Bill Laimbeer after watching that. Theres one thing I respect tough competitors And Laimbeer was a tough sob.
Bill Laimbeer is my Favorite player. It was entertainment and real defense. Modern nba is a game of horse with defenders parting like the red sea if someone goes for a dunk.
I have watched every NBA finals since 1965 and I think lambeer had to play dirty because he was a shitty player .
Lambeer could not dribble and drive. . He could not block a shot so people drove to the bucket on him. Watch all the dunks on him. Secondly, he was flat footed and had no post game. All he had was a shot and as far as rebounding all you had to do was turn you r back and block out. Most of his rebounds were on the defensive side of the ball. Offensive rebounds are much harder.
He could not guard anyone today. There are so many better and more mobile centers. I would have loved to see him try to pull his shit on Willis Reed. He would have kicked Lambeer's ass. Reed was better at every aspect of the game and also had a wonderful outside shot.
Lambeer got his just reward. He is not in the HOF(no one rewards a thug). He did not get a coaching job. He was basically kicked out of the league for being a total asshole.
You know that this gets under his sj kin no matter what he says.
I hated the Pistons. However, they were a great, great basketball team. Great chemistry, outstanding talent, well coached, and tremendous heart and guts. Made for great basketball and the most competitive basketball ever.
Baaaaaaaad Booooooys
Ur fair. 🤝
I have watched every NBA finals since 1965 and I think lambeer had to play dirty because he was a shitty player . Lambeer could not dribble and drive He could not block a shot so people drove to the bucket on him. Watch all the dunks on him. Secondly, he was flat footed and had no post game. All he had was a shot and as far as rebounding all you had to do was turn you r back and block out. Most of his rebounds were on the defensive side of the ball. Offensive rebounds are much harder.
He could not guard anyone today. There are so many better and more mobile centers. I would have loved to see him try to pull his shit on Willis Reed. He would have kicked Lambeer's ass. Reed was better at every aspect of the game and also had a wonderful outside shot.
Lambeer got his just reward. He is not in the HOF(no one rewards a thug). He did not get a coaching job. He was basically kicked out of the league for being a total asshole.
You know that this gets under his skin no matter what he says.
Bill should be in the Hall of Fame, based on his two championships as a player and multiple championships as a coach in the WNBA. I went to high school with Bill, and he lead us to the CIF championship in southern California. He was all about winning, even then. Great shooter, and great rebounder, not just a tough defender.
He cant even crack the top 5 on the All Time All White depth chart at his position, Luc Longley won titles but like Laimbeer doesnt deserve to be in the HOF..... Rik Smits isnt in the HOF and anybody who says Laimbeer was a better player than him is delusional at the very least lol.....
Laimbeer say at the end of the day you can call him champion
@@bigglilwayne7050 ARE YOU KIDDING? Lets compare Luc Longley to Laimbeer. IT isn't even close. Laimbeer 9.7 rebounds per game, lead the league in rebounding, 10,400 career rebounds
12.9 points per game 13,790 points, 49% shooting. 83% free throw shooter, and was the first outside shooting center.
Made six three pointers in a NBA finals game. 1068 games played averaging 31 minutes, 861 games as starter.
Has his jersey retired by the Pistons. Retired a Piston.
six seasons in a row without missing a game. 12 seasons of more than 80 games played. 4 time all star.
2 time NBA champion, 3 time WNBA champion as coach. WNBA coach of the year.
Luc Longley 4.9 rebounds per game, NEVER lead the league in rebounding, just 2,794 career rebounds
7.2 points per game just 4,090 points, 46% shooting. 76% free throw shooter. and NEVER SHOT A THREE IN HIS CAREER.
Just 567 games played averaging 21 minutes, NEVER had a season where he didn't miss a games, 362 games as starter.
NEVER had his jersey retired, was traded to Phoenix for Mark Bryant, Martin Müürsepp, Bubba Wells
(two of those never played a minute for the Bulls)
most games played in a season just 59. Always injured. ZERO times all star.
3 times NBA champion, ZERO times champion as a coach. I could do the same comparison with Rik Smits with similar results. THE DELUSIONAL ONE IS YOU.
@@arizjones You jumped on the person's stats who was irrelevant in wtf I was even talking about.... You typed a whole bunch of bullshit to avoid actually comparing Rik Smits and Lamebeer, not a stat one listed for the Dunkin Dutchman.... Blocks would be a nice starting point or career PPG.... And since you're so hung up on Luc Longley, substitute his name with a Mark Eaton or a Ron Seikaly and then type out some paragraphs....
@@bigglilwayne7050 Go ahead, make the comparison on stats. Go for it. Substantiate you claim. Tell me how many championships Smits has, how many rebound per game, many career points and rebounds, how many games played? How many three pointers. How many three pointers in the finals, how many times was he was an all star? How many championships does he have as a coach? Again Laimbeer will come out on top. You are the one that compared him to Luc longley, not me, and now you are claiming he is irrelevant? Then why did you mention him? It is not my job to substantiate you false claim, you are lazy in your response, as I expected. Mark Eaton? Are you kidding? he beats Laimber in one category, blocks, he scored 6 points a game, Laimbeer has more rebounds per game, lead the league in rebounding, played more than double the number of games, scored more, won championships was an all star, shot higher percentage from the field and free throws. And Laimbeer actually could shoot three pointers. It isn't even close.
The Celtics didn't shake hands and the Pistons were like meh. The Pistons didn't shake hands with the Bulls, and the Bulls are still crying 30 years later.
I don't need 200 million friends. I love it! Laimbeer is SAVAGE!
You can make a argument that Bill Laimbeer should be in the Hall Of Fame.
In old school basketball, there was always a position on the team for a hatchet man. Bill was the greatest hatchet man... No dunking in my lane!!!
Rick Mahorn was the thug who couldn't play really lamb beer could flat out shoot play and couldn't jump over a phone book
@@mikecushing7276 right on about mahorn, father time messes with your memory sometime, how I could've forgot him. Bad Boy Bill couldn't jump, but he sure could tackle.
Loved the doc
so diplomatic Bill
I think Laimbeer is a little bit underrated. Had a rebounding title, made 4 All Star teams and was a good 3-point shooter, very rare for a center at that time. You don't have to like him and I'm not saying he's an all-time great player here but when you add the back-to-back titles to that resume you get somebody who's at the very least objectively a total overachiever as a 3rd round draft pick.
He should be known for more than the physicality and "Bad Boy" image, as should that team in general for that matter.
They should have 3
I remember all those games basketball was better back then then now
Say what you want about this guy! Hate to play him but love him on your team
Lamb beer starting center on the East Austin
The Celtics were on enemy ground, the Pistons were not
Bill Laimbeer great he gave Larry Bird trouble it was David Sterns that he let them play what MJ called This is not basketball
I hated the Bad Boys but i sure miss them
lolol
This actually makes me like Laimbeer, and I hated him...
Still don't know why they bring up the Celtics walking off the floor in 1988. They were TOLD to do that by the Silverdome security and NBA security at the game due to the fans rushing the floor and the heated rivalry involved.
@DEZZNUTZ 1001 They lost in Detroit.
@@bigdawg7262 No, Spring of 1988 Pistons beat the Celtics at the Silverdome in Pontiac. They moved to The Palace of Auburn Hills in October of 1988.
@@mjbachman3027 Uh, that's what I said. It was at the Silverdome. Go back and watch the end of the game. Fans were already coming on the floor with seconds left. NBA and SIlverdome security wanted the Celtics stars off the floor before the fans rushed onto it.
@@bigdawg7262 I went to two of the 1988 NBA Eastern Conference Finals playoff games against the Celtics, and also two games in the Finals games against the Lakers. The temperature was really hot inside the Silverdome, as well as outside, as we had hardly any rain that spring. I worked less than 4 miles east of the Silverdome, and the grass was all dried out along M-59 in front of our company headquarters.
@@bigdawg7262 A _few_ fans came onto the court. The crowd didn't storm the court until _after_ the clock hit zeroes.
He played dirty but it was a physical era. He hurt some amazing players and that was how it was. He might have been the champion maker but I still hate him and I suspect he doesn’t care.
Name players he hurt.
Bill is wrong. They were not hosed on a phantom foul. There was body contact and if anything he committed so many other fouls throughout the course of the playoffs. Bad Boys Pistons could not play clean ball and win. Facts
Pat Riley knows more about it than you. Here is a Pat Riley quote about it: ""In 1988, when we got Detroit and Kareem hit that phantom sky hook foul, he had to make the two free throws," Riley said Thursday. "He didn't choke. He did not choke on the free throws. He had to make them. He made them. And that led us to a seventh game and a win. But the next year, Detroit came back and swept us." SO PAT RILEY CALLS IT A PHANTOM FOUL.
Take the time to watch all the games and count the number of clearly flagrant fouls committed by Detroit that were NOT called.@DEZZNUTZ 1001
Bologna. Alcindor threw his forearm into Laimbeer to create space. Easy no call. On top of that, Alcindor travelled _prior_ to the contact. If you're the guy who previously whined to me about non-relevant fouls, than you're hopeless. Alcindor got away with a travel and _both_ players made contact. Period.
CORRECTION BILL : YOU BEAT US IN 1989 WITHOUT MAGIC & BYRON SCOTT! SO YOU WENT UP AGAINST A BACKCOURT WITH DAVID RIVERS OMFG! & TONY CAMPBELL LORD HAVE MERCY! I WOULD HOPE THAT YOU COULD SWEEP US!
YOU BARELY BEAT THE PISTONS WITH ISAIH ON ONE LEG !!! WHATS YOUR POINT?
@@synowiecj Detroit had ISAIAH Injured through 3/4 of game 6. Magic and byron basically missed the whole finals vs a tough pistons. Let's say Detroit beats the Lakers in 1989 with magic and byron for the whole series right? I'd bet a GUARANTEED winning lottery ticket that it wouldn't be a sweep!
@@johnnyguitarwatson5288 waaah! Let the hurt go
@@synowiecj no hurt brother! All well & GRATEFUL
@@johnnyguitarwatson5288 it’s a good man
Dan , I had to force myself to get thru that. Love your show , but that idiot , i just cant stand. You hear Bird talking about him , sliding his foot under you when you jumped up , to hurt you & that just isnt what B-Ball is all about. If you dont have the talent , dont play! If you wanna box , go do that. If he wanted attention , he should go online & throw a bitch-fit to get it , like normal people. =). His player efficiency rating , where the AVG is 15 , Bill is 16...so , there ya go.
Good, but dirty player.
Da bulls
Laimbeer was a dirty player who tried to injure players. He is a bad person.
But the pistons were trash and bad people.
you would have loved them if they played for your city
The Pistons three guards were the best three guard rotation in the history of NBA. Only the early 1970's New York Knicks rotation of Clyde Frazier, Earl Monroe and Dick Barnett comes close to equaling Isiah Thomas, Joe Dumars and Vinnie Johnson.
Jordan's ignorant fans are trash and are bad people. See how easy that is?