I completely agree with you. I enjoy my AR's and AK's and am glad I have them. However, my love of Old West guns has overtaken my love for more modern tactical fare. My tactical guns are welcome tools I hope I never have to use...my cowboy guns are the ones I just love to ogle and shoot for the pure pleasure of shooting.
Along time ago when just a lady of 12 (1962) my Grandfather gave me his 1873 Winchester 32-20, along with a single action Colt in the same cal. I still and will always own them. I do think that they retarded my interest in more modern firearms. I own a number of late 19th early 20th century fire arms and own only two auto loaders. 1911 matched up to a Marlin Camp Carbine in .45 acp. Two guns like this is still a cowboy thing.
One of my first cowboy rifles in the 90s was a 24 incher in 45 Colt. Nice finish, good trigger, fit and finish. Didn’t modify it with the gamer short stroke. Fast enough and original to original design. Still fun to shoot. History in your hands
I was raised in the early 60's where a man owned at least two guns and that was a 12 gauge shotgun and a Winchester. I have many firearms from pistols to .50 caliber rifle but none will ever replace my passion for the Winchester except it has to be the 30-30 for me personally. Those are beautiful rifles David and thanks for sharing.
At 14:54 I mistakingly state that the 1873 does not use an extraction claw similar to the Henry. This is simply not true. While they do incorporate different methods of cycling they both have an ejector claw which grabs the cartridge. My bad
I have a Uberti Limited Edition Deluxe 1873 Short Rifle 45 Colt. Absolutely Love that rifle. I also have a 1866 in 22lr. You have to love the older style rifles. Fun and just plain work. Love all your videos. Thanks
If I get into single action shooting, that is EXACTLY the combo I want, a 73 and a SAA in 357. Technically, it's not a historical cartridge, but the rifle can shoot an older 38 colt if needed. If you put these guns in a time machine, the people of that time could have easily put them to use.
I use a Henry Big Boy in .357/.38 Spl and it works just fine for competition - in fact, you can really work the lever hard and it never failed me. When loading for my stage turn, the Henry loads faster when I remove the inner tube and just drop the 10 rounds into the open end - and the guy next to me is still pushing the rounds throug his loading gate (really tough when the gun is new). Also goes well with my Henry .22LR Frontier model.
Thanks for the very informative review. I have an original 1873 in 32 WCF but am reluctant to shoot it frequently for obvious reasons so I am considering the purchase of either the Winchester or Uberti definitely a tough choice either way.
I preferred 45 colt for mine. They are beautiful for sure. But, my blackhawk in 45 colt has acquired modern hogue grips. So, I have my 1858 remington cap and ball in a cavalry holster with it for a real western feel.
My dad just bought me this same rifle! Haven’t shot it yet but I love it. I can get 12 rounds in mine, should I not load it that full? What are your thoughts? Great video
Thanks for the video. I've owned 100 year old 1873's and new Ubertis. The original still functioned flawlessly. No new parts. Even though the new metallurgy should be better. The old ones were well made but wouldn't ake a 37 mag chambering. I'm rambling but just take care of your tools and they will last several lifetimes.
That is definitely a beautiful rifle. I prefer the reddish tint to the wood finish on the Uberti. I'm thinking about buying the 73 with 24" barrel and ad a traditional tang sight. I'm trying to decide what caliber I'm kinda leaning towards the 44-40 being the original cartridge and I think it is much more useful than people think. Think about it the 44-40 was the standard in the 73 for almost 50 years it must have gotten the job done. Thanks 👍
Great video and beautiful guns! I also debated which rifle to buy between the "real" Miroku Winchester and one of the Italian clones. I ultimately went with the Miroku Winchester short rifle in .357/.38. Mine also has the 20 inch barrel with beautifully figured wood and "color case hardening". I have shot it monthly at our local cowboy action matches since buying it this past spring and it is fantastic. When you were talking about safeties on the rifle, you never mentioned quarter cocking the hammer (the first click from hammer down position) which is the one actual safety this gun has. It keeps the hammer from contacting the firing pin and disables the trigger so it can't be fired even with a round chambered, then, when you're ready to fire, all you have to do is cock the hammer and you're good to go.
I bought one of these two months ago, mine is in .45 Colt and has a half octagonal/half round barrel, a very good looking and functioning rifle, as is the 24" version I have. I also have an original Winchester 1873 chambered in 38-20, lining the two up side by side there is nothing I can fault the Uberti on, it is, except for some modern markings, a new Winchester 1873. Well, there is one thing about Uberti's rifle, there is a lip on the magazine feed plate that catches the rim of the case, that is not present on the original Winchester and is something I would eliminate.
Beautiful rifles. I've been on the fence about buying the Uberti 1873 or the model 94 they are now making in Japan. After seeing this I will be going with the Uberti. The 94 has been modified to the point where it's a model 94 in name only compared to what the rifle it use to be.
You can find original Winchester 94s in shops for reasonable money, and that includes pre-64 models. Uberti makes very good Model 1873 rifles, I have two of them, rifle and short rifle, both in .45 Colt.
Stumbled onto your video. Beautiful gun!! ARs and AK's are not permitted in Canada July 2020 currently, so maybe this is a good compromise for us up here for "fast shooting" "large capacity" rifles - that ain't too scary looking!! :-)
I sold all my AR's and AK's even my SKS. All I own is leaver actions from 22lr to 50-110. My favorite is my 44wcf Its a 1866 short rifle it holds 13. I have killed deer with it and it has over 10k threw it with no problems yet. The problem with the 1873 and 1866 is the leaver spring and the lifter springs they are to heavy and will were the lobes of the leaver. Grind them down or replace them. guns like this you need to reload for.
You can easily polish your trigger and all the moving parts without sacrificing the longevity and strength of the rifle. You don't really want to remove material and if you do its with 2000 grit so it won't affect the strength if the rifle
That trigger safety that requires the lever to be held snug to the stock before it will allow the trigger to be pulled is an original Winchester feature, not a modern thing.
Iam almost 50 now. I understand. I got rid of all my modern guns. It means more to have something i can work with that has history. Great video thanks God bless. 👍
Great video and yes the average bolt carrier in an AR seems to wear and fail @ 4,000 rounds so unless you have the tools to change it out and the know how you may be screwed out in the field in a dystopian wasteland scenario! - Does a modern lever action start to fail at the same 4-5 k mark idk???
I like Uberti, and would take one over Henry everytime. Id like to know more about Uberti, and what makes it a better rifle over original antique Winchester rifles.
Thank you, I was going to buy the Henry but I like the way the Uberti looks. Also when ever I see videos of the Henry I always see jams when they extract a spent cartridge. Thanks again.
I bought the Uberti 357 rifle today. I had a hard time deciding which caliper, decided to buy 3 guns. Uberti 357, Henry Silverboy 22 magnum, and the Marlin 1895 45-70 stainless steel (SBL). The Henry 22 magnum makes sense because most 22 lever guns use the same loading style under barrel. One thing I haven't figured out is the cleaning kit for 357 magnum rifle. There isn't an actual kit, or even an actual rod either for rifle. Also the bore snake is designed for pistol and is short. Any advice on this?
I got the Uberti 1873 16.5" in .357 and it's a hoot on the range. My next one will be a SAA in 357 as well. Maybe later on I will get the 20" octagon barrel in same caliber just because. Lol
Hi, enjoyed your video. I only have money to buy one rifle. I am torn between the 1873 vs 1866. If you only could buy one which one would you buy Sir? I heard the 1873 is easier to clean.
Now that Winchester is making these guns again, I am torn between getting this gun, which is gorgeous and masterfully crafted (also lower in price), versus a "real" Winchester '73 made in Japan with the Winchester name and trademark on it. The Japanese are no slouches in the gun-making art. I have the Browning BL-22 lever gun that they made, which is a beauty. Let's face it, Winchesters will never be produced in New Haven, Connecticut again so it is either Italian replica or Japanese "real" Winchester (shouldn't really be in quotes.) So which one should I get? I welcome any opinions.
I have nothing against Uberti but I’d buy the Miroku Winchester. It’ll hold its value a little better in the long run because it has Winchester stamped on the barrel.
Have both .357, 44.40, fantastic fit and finish. They are very reliable but not made to shoot like an FAL or M1-A. Be reasonable with loads in your power factor- less is more because hit loads are t I tally unnecessary. Clean mine with Kroil an Ballistol. Both Rifles over 27 years old an shoot like lasers.
You are correct that the Henry Big Boy is not a reproduction of anything that existed in the 19th Century. It certainly has nothing in common with the 1860 Henry rifle, nor does the Henry Repeating Arms company for that matter. The Big Boy is sort of a modified Marlin action.
This rifle in Canada would run you over the $1800. mark...beauty comes at a price , sometimes. I'd love to have one of their revolvers some day, right now I'm content in watching your videos on them, David.
In the video that rifle looks well made and fit/finish looks good. But, I'd have to say every other Uberti I've owned or looked at was just a slight bit on the crude side. File marks, poor wood inlet...so so machine work. Wonder if in this case you jst have a good sample?
c s I don’t have a long history with Uberti, but the firearms I have acquired from them over the last five years have been nothing but excellent quality
I have a Uberti 1873 and the finish and wood fitment is immaculate. The rifle chambers anything I choose to feed it with smoothly and is accurate to boot. Perhaps the examples that you have owned / handled were just bad samples?
@@drdrake63, if Wikipedia is the best you can do, then I am not interested. If you're making excuses for your ignorance, instead of learning what is correct, then you have no credibility. You are dismissed. Good bye.
@@MercyMinister The few people commenting on whether or not "short rifle" is the correct term for a gun with a 20" barrel do not get bent out of shape over the differences when communicating with their fellow shooters and gun enthusiasts. Elsewhere, the folks who want to call .44-40 "44 WCF" instead of .44-40 and vice versa, and/or the people who swear "WCF" stands for Winchester Center Fire while others will go to their graves saying it's Winchester Central Fire; the millions who refer to the Colt 1911 A1 as a ".45 automatic" do not get offended when purists come back and chime in "no! it's semi-auto". More often than not, they're spirited exchanges about a subject we all love, firearms, conducted in a respectful, NOT put-down manner. Our host David Drake, who did a leisurely, informative, clearly photographed and clear audio'd report, held his audience's attention for 22 minutes, probably is aware that it's .45 Colt, but chose to state the name that somehow has "taken hold" and become more frequently and commonly used, .45 Long Colt. At a gun show some years ago I was curious (while blessed to own handguns and long guns in the caliber yet they were inconsistent in their markings, ".45 Colt" and ".45 Long Colt," just like so many of the factory ammunition boxes in my inventory) and politely queried an executive of an ammunition manufacturer why their product wasn't labeled the old school and correct name, ".45 Colt." "It's the lawyers," he responded. "It sounds like an urban legend, but somewhere in the annals of anecdotes of stupid shooters and Darwin-Award winners -- in the dark regarding the very clear and basic differences between .45 ACP and .45 Colt -- and unscrupulous attorneys coming in to play the liability insurance angle and apparently a costly claim was made and paid. Don't ask me how." Hearing this first hand I thought it was interesting and incredibly sad that a century old caliber, .45 Colt, was -- in some quarters -- being supplanted by .45 Long Colt. During this brief, informative, CIVIL, friendly exchange that's what I came away with. . . . . Now, to "James," on behalf of the 500 + "thumbs UP" and 90 + individuals who took the time to comment re David Drake's TH-cam presentation here, we'll categorically make the claim, make the charge that while "James" portends to be knowledgeable about guns and cartridges he's clearly and foolishly shown in this exchange that he comes up WAY SHORT in his people skills. "James" comes across as one of those one-note "know-it-alls" and worse, a spoiled child, immature, with lack of character and zero respect in conversing with a fellow aficionado of all things gun related. Many are wondering why you didn't feel your opening line, "FYI... there is no such thing as a .45 LONG Colt. Just say '.45 Colt.'" wasn't sufficient. Because it really was. For reasons only you know, you had to add "so people don't assume you don't know what you're talking about." That put-down line would make even the gentlest of souls hot under the collar. We were all witness to "James" steering this into a pissing match. Shameful.
It was basically a marketing tool. A title like that gets guns a lot of attention. The term basically means that the gun was the most popular and most sold gun in that time.
I'd go for the Miroku authorized manufacture '73 as reputedly better made. More expensive, at about $2,000. Go for the gusto, that's what your money is for.
David Drake. Interesting. You are the first I have heard of to think the Uberti is better quality then the Miroku. I have not seen them side by side. It's all a matter of personal taste. Have fun shooting it, if, that is you can find the ammo...... My Winchester is in the super popular 32-20 that zillions of people have so no ammo at any price. Just kidding. It was hard to find before all this shortage, so I guess I'll have to reload.
I think those old designs are less offensive to the public than the AR platform or the AKs. At my age I'm not interested in playing sober. Vision and conditioning are issues past seventy. So what if I sit home watching old western movies.
Nice gun. But I always kind of think “oh well” when I find out somebody’s nice lever action is in .357 magnum. I understand why cowboy action guys like it and all. Cheaper and easier to shoot and find ammo for. But it was mean’t to shoot a .44-40. Basically the power of a .44 Magnum handgun with the accuracy and ease of a rifle. At least a .45 Colt (even if it was never designed for that, it’s at least a period cartridge). Great gun and action.
409rommel but wasn’t the original chambering in .44-40? Anyway, don’t the 32-20 and .38-40 function as rifle cartridges and have thin bottle necks that expand and sealed the chambers preventing blowback? That is the reason I went with .44-40 over .45 Colt or .44 Magnum in my 1873
Major manufacturers offered their guns in a variety of calibers. It depends on what you mean by "originally". I have a 19th century SAA in 38 caliber. There were plenty of people who carried 36 and 38 caliber guns in the frontier period.
Khắc cảnh lê I mean originally. Sure there were Colt SAA (and Navy, etc) in .38 /shortLong Colt and such in the 19th century. But there was never a .357 Magnum Colt SAA as that round was not developed until 1935.
I'll save up and buy the Miroku Winchester 73 model in the .45colt caliber to be more authentic and I would never do any modifications to it so as to allow the rifle to work itself in naturally !!!
Didn't Winchester refuse to make a rifle in Colt 45 for a very long time? He made it in 44 40. Also, Winchester made plenty of rifles in a 38 caliber, so a 357 isn't that far off, and modern 357 rifles can shoot the older 38 rounds.
@@khaccanhle1930 Yeah the Winchester in .45 Colt came along much later but I don't know exactly when !!! It's just that I prefer that caliber because it's the same as the hollywood cowboy load which is the .45 Colt !!!! And well since I don't reload .45 Colt is cheaper to shoot than the .44-40 caliber !!!
45colt is not an original cal in any Winchester rifle. 44-40 was the big pistol cal. ,Colt chambered it in their single actions, but Winchester wouldn’t chamber the 45 colt rd.
Too much about "beautiful." What's the fit of wood to metal? How is the wood treated? Lacquer? Plastic? You wandered from revolver to leather to draw from. to other weapons.
I really don't know why you would want a short barrel. In the old days a longer barrel was prefered. Lets keep it original okay? Why is there always someone who wants to screw up history?
@@drdrake63 I only know what was taught to me and I stand by that. My dad who was very sharp in these matters just passed away. I have no other defense.
Nothing wrong with History, all for it, but there’s a thing called progress, improving on what’s already perfect (nothing wrong with that either). 👍🏼❤️🤠
They made the 73 with a 12” inch barrel up to 37” inches. I believe the 16 and under were known as “trapper” models, could be wrong on the last part. Cheers
I completely agree with you. I enjoy my AR's and AK's and am glad I have them. However, my love of Old West guns has overtaken my love for more modern tactical fare. My tactical guns are welcome tools I hope I never have to use...my cowboy guns are the ones I just love to ogle and shoot for the pure pleasure of shooting.
I've had the 1873 Uberti short-rifle/Cattleman single action combo in 357/38 for a number of years. Fine pieces. Thanks for sharing.
Gorgeous guns
Along time ago when just a lady of 12 (1962) my Grandfather gave me his 1873 Winchester 32-20, along with a single action Colt in the same cal. I still and will always own them. I do think that they retarded my interest in more modern firearms. I own a number of late 19th early 20th century fire arms and own only two auto loaders. 1911 matched up to a Marlin Camp Carbine in .45 acp. Two guns like this is still a cowboy thing.
One of my first cowboy rifles in the 90s was a 24 incher in 45 Colt. Nice finish, good trigger, fit and finish. Didn’t modify it with the gamer short stroke. Fast enough and original to original design. Still fun to shoot. History in your hands
I was raised in the early 60's where a man owned at least two guns and that was a 12 gauge shotgun and a Winchester. I have many firearms from pistols to .50 caliber rifle but none will ever replace my passion for the Winchester except it has to be the 30-30 for me personally. Those are beautiful rifles David and thanks for sharing.
I have my ar and aks but I just love my lever actions so much history and plane fun and beautiful craftsmanship and they hold up really great too
Both Are Very beautiful .TY for sharing
Beautiful Guns in your collection 🤠
Beautiful I love it.
great gun great video I enjoyed it
At 14:54 I mistakingly state that the 1873 does not use an extraction claw similar to the Henry. This is simply not true. While they do incorporate different methods of cycling they both have an ejector claw which grabs the cartridge. My bad
I have a Uberti Limited Edition Deluxe 1873 Short Rifle 45 Colt. Absolutely Love that rifle. I also have a 1866 in 22lr. You have to love the older style rifles. Fun and just plain work. Love all your videos. Thanks
Thanks for watching and commenting very much appreciate it
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Nice video, tanks.
Cheers from France.
If I get into single action shooting, that is EXACTLY the combo I want, a 73 and a SAA in 357.
Technically, it's not a historical cartridge, but the rifle can shoot an older 38 colt if needed. If you put these guns in a time machine, the people of that time could have easily put them to use.
I use a Henry Big Boy in .357/.38 Spl and it works just fine for competition - in fact, you can really work the lever hard and it never failed me. When loading for my stage turn, the Henry loads faster when I remove the inner tube and just drop the 10 rounds into the open end - and the guy next to me is still pushing the rounds throug his loading gate (really tough when the gun is new). Also goes well with my Henry .22LR Frontier model.
Looking all over for the sporting long version ... I can't believe things are so crazy even lever action stuff is impossible to find
Excellent video. Could you provide a link to that belt and holster setup? Any regrets on getting the .357 vs .45 Colt?
beautiful rifle
That is a very beautiful rifle. How has it handled since you posted this video? What kind of accuracy do you get with it at 100 yards?
Love it.
great review sir
Great video, where did you purchase your belt and holsters? Thank you.
Love my lever guns (Winchester 94AE & Henry Big Boy in 30-30 & .357 respectively.
Thanks for the very informative review. I have an original 1873 in 32 WCF but am reluctant to shoot it frequently for obvious reasons so I am considering the purchase of either the Winchester or Uberti definitely a tough choice either way.
I preferred 45 colt for mine. They are beautiful for sure. But, my blackhawk in 45 colt has acquired modern hogue grips. So, I have my 1858 remington cap and ball in a cavalry holster with it for a real western feel.
My dad just bought me this same rifle! Haven’t shot it yet but I love it. I can get 12 rounds in mine, should I not load it that full? What are your thoughts? Great video
Thanks for the video. I've owned 100 year old 1873's and new Ubertis. The original still functioned flawlessly. No new parts. Even though the new metallurgy should be better. The old ones were well made but wouldn't ake a 37 mag chambering. I'm rambling but just take care of your tools and they will last several lifetimes.
That's a cool holster setup. What is it? How much? And where can I get it?
That is definitely a beautiful rifle. I prefer the reddish tint to the wood finish on the Uberti. I'm thinking about buying the 73 with 24" barrel and ad a traditional tang sight. I'm trying to decide what caliber I'm kinda leaning towards the 44-40 being the original cartridge and I think it is much more useful than people think. Think about it the 44-40 was the standard in the 73 for almost 50 years it must have gotten the job done. Thanks 👍
One thing is certain; that Henry is a fantastic rifle.
Great video and beautiful guns! I also debated which rifle to buy between the "real" Miroku Winchester and one of the Italian clones. I ultimately went with the Miroku Winchester short rifle in .357/.38. Mine also has the 20 inch barrel with beautifully figured wood and "color case hardening". I have shot it monthly at our local cowboy action matches since buying it this past spring and it is fantastic. When you were talking about safeties on the rifle, you never mentioned quarter cocking the hammer (the first click from hammer down position) which is the one actual safety this gun has. It keeps the hammer from contacting the firing pin and disables the trigger so it can't be fired even with a round chambered, then, when you're ready to fire, all you have to do is cock the hammer and you're good to go.
I don't like the fake case hardening on the Miroku, but otherwise it's superior to the Uberti.
What do you think about the uberti .357 in the long 24.4 in octagonal?
I bought one of these two months ago, mine is in .45 Colt and has a half octagonal/half round barrel, a very good looking and functioning rifle, as is the 24" version I have. I also have an original Winchester 1873 chambered in 38-20, lining the two up side by side there is nothing I can fault the Uberti on, it is, except for some modern markings, a new Winchester 1873. Well, there is one thing about Uberti's rifle, there is a lip on the magazine feed plate that catches the rim of the case, that is not present on the original Winchester and is something I would eliminate.
Very good review..
Watching this in 2022 and hearing a big boy .44 was 700 4 years ago compared to now that’s insane
Yeah, it seems like everything outside of polymer pistols has gone up quite a bit
Beautiful rifles. I've been on the fence about buying the Uberti 1873 or the model 94 they are now making in Japan. After seeing this I will be going with the Uberti. The 94 has been modified to the point where it's a model 94 in name only compared to what the rifle it use to be.
You can find original Winchester 94s in shops for reasonable money, and that includes pre-64 models. Uberti makes very good Model 1873 rifles, I have two of them, rifle and short rifle, both in .45 Colt.
Stumbled onto your video. Beautiful gun!! ARs and AK's are not permitted in Canada July 2020 currently, so maybe this is a good compromise for us up here for "fast shooting" "large capacity" rifles - that ain't too scary looking!! :-)
I sold all my AR's and AK's even my SKS. All I own is leaver actions from 22lr to 50-110. My favorite is my 44wcf Its a 1866 short rifle it holds 13. I have killed deer with it and it has over 10k threw it with no problems yet. The problem with the 1873 and 1866 is the leaver spring and the lifter springs they are to heavy and will were the lobes of the leaver. Grind them down or replace them. guns like this you need to reload for.
Now, that is a sexy rifle.
I bought Uberti 45 colt 18 inch rifle I didnt go to shoot yet but any advice?
You can easily polish your trigger and all the moving parts without sacrificing the longevity and strength of the rifle. You don't really want to remove material and if you do its with 2000 grit so it won't affect the strength if the rifle
That trigger safety that requires the lever to be held snug to the stock before it will allow the trigger to be pulled is an original Winchester feature, not a modern thing.
Great video sir, keep it up!
Would you be so kind to tell me what accuracy can be expected on 50 yards?
John Browning 2 inch groups no problem with 357 open iron sights
@@drdrake63 thanks!
Iam almost 50 now. I understand. I got rid of all my modern guns. It means more to have something i can work with that has history. Great video thanks God bless. 👍
Train Bennett I appreciate the modern stuff as well, but it’s nowhere near as sexy as the older stuff that’s for sure
Very sweet rifle! Where did you get your pistol rig from?
Mrbeanutube Historical Emporium dot com
Hey David can you share where you got the gun rig? Really nice looking leather work!
ALPHA LOUNGE Historical Emporium. Email me at drdrake63@gmail.com for more details / thoughts
Great video and yes the average bolt carrier in an AR seems to wear and fail @ 4,000 rounds so unless you have the tools to change it out and the know how you may be screwed out in the field in a dystopian wasteland scenario! - Does a modern lever action start to fail at the same 4-5 k mark idk???
I like Uberti, and would take one over Henry everytime. Id like to know more about Uberti, and what makes it a better rifle over original antique Winchester rifles.
Thank you, I was going to buy the Henry but I like the way the Uberti looks. Also when ever I see videos of the Henry I always see jams when they extract a spent cartridge. Thanks again.
You bought the sergio leone version, i got the kurosawa version. (The miroku 1873)
Another combination film/firearm buff!
That front sight is integral? I think it is dovetailed in and can be removed if you want to replace it
It's dovetailed
I bought the Uberti 357 rifle today. I had a hard time deciding which caliper, decided to buy 3 guns. Uberti 357, Henry Silverboy 22 magnum, and the Marlin 1895 45-70 stainless steel (SBL).
The Henry 22 magnum makes sense because most 22 lever guns use the same loading style under barrel.
One thing I haven't figured out is the cleaning kit for 357 magnum rifle. There isn't an actual kit, or even an actual rod either for rifle. Also the bore snake is designed for pistol and is short. Any advice on this?
Christopher Bergmann I wish I had your gun budget!
The Hoppes .357 pistol bore snake works fine in the 20” Uberti barrel. It’s plenty long enough
I got the Uberti 1873 16.5" in .357 and it's a hoot on the range. My next one will be a SAA in 357 as well. Maybe later on I will get the 20" octagon barrel in same caliber just because. Lol
Have a 1873 original Winchester in 44-40, want a 357mag. Uberti has it going on,want one.
Hi, enjoyed your video. I only have money to buy one rifle. I am torn between the 1873 vs 1866. If you only could buy one which one would you buy Sir? I heard the 1873 is easier to clean.
Tyeriver1 I prefer the ‘73
@@drdrake63 thank you!
I want to shoot a western and I really need such tools.
*sips* 1873, now that's a rifle
That 30 yro cowboy boomer
My navy arms uberti 1873 has Turnbull color case hardening.
Now that Winchester is making these guns again, I am torn between getting this gun, which is gorgeous and masterfully crafted (also lower in price), versus a "real" Winchester '73 made in Japan with the Winchester name and trademark on it. The Japanese are no slouches in the gun-making art. I have the Browning BL-22 lever gun that they made, which is a beauty. Let's face it, Winchesters will never be produced in New Haven, Connecticut again so it is either Italian replica or Japanese "real" Winchester (shouldn't really be in quotes.) So which one should I get? I welcome any opinions.
rmwtsou I think it’s a horse s piece. I’ve handled the Winchester and was equally impressed, like the Uberti just a bit better aesthetically
Great! Thanks for your input.
Just got the Winchester ‘73, 24” in 357/38, and a 1866, 20” in 44-40, love them real Winchester’s not clones. Do own a Uberti 1860 and love it.
I have nothing against Uberti but I’d buy the Miroku Winchester. It’ll hold its value a little better in the long run because it has Winchester stamped on the barrel.
The 1873 is the most beautiful rifle ever made.
Second only to the 1874 Sharps buffalo rifle in tetms of beauty.
Dip a Q-tip in some Jasco paint stripper and rub the wet stripper into the gold lettering.That is how I removed mine.
Got that same table on my deck 😂
Have both .357, 44.40, fantastic fit and finish. They are very reliable but not made to shoot like an FAL or M1-A. Be reasonable with loads in your power factor- less is more because hit loads are t I tally unnecessary. Clean mine with Kroil an Ballistol. Both Rifles over 27 years old an shoot like lasers.
Sorry, hot loads.
How faithful to the Winchester's are they? Are parts interchangeable?
You are correct that the Henry Big Boy is not a reproduction of anything that existed in the 19th Century. It certainly has nothing in common with the 1860 Henry rifle, nor does the Henry Repeating Arms company for that matter. The Big Boy is sort of a modified Marlin action.
This rifle in Canada would run you over the $1800. mark...beauty comes at a price , sometimes.
I'd love to have one of their revolvers some day, right now I'm content in watching your videos on them, David.
Reg Sparkes there’s one locally that I’m looking at it’s about $1500, just a beauty
The Uberti looks better but the Henry shoots better,trigger on Uberti is horribly heavy! Once fixed it shoots fine ! Love the western guns !
In the video that rifle looks well made and fit/finish looks good. But, I'd have to say every other Uberti I've owned or looked at was just a slight bit on the crude side. File marks, poor wood inlet...so so machine work. Wonder if in this case you jst have a good sample?
c s I don’t have a long history with Uberti, but the firearms I have acquired from them over the last five years have been nothing but excellent quality
I have a Uberti 1873 and the finish and wood fitment is immaculate. The rifle chambers anything I choose to feed it with smoothly and is accurate to boot. Perhaps the examples that you have owned / handled were just bad samples?
Legend has it, that it’s referred to as a short rifle with a 20” barrel but by today’s standard, isn’t that short by any stretch.
I'll keep my Marlin 3030
FYI... there is no such thing as a .45 LONG Colt. Just say ".45 Colt."
James Just so people don’t assume YOU don’t know what you’re talking about
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/.45_Colt
@@drdrake63, if Wikipedia is the best you can do, then I am not interested. If you're making excuses for your ignorance, instead of learning what is correct, then you have no credibility. You are dismissed. Good bye.
@@MercyMinister The few people commenting on whether or not "short rifle" is the correct term for a gun with a 20" barrel do not get bent out of shape over the differences when communicating with their fellow shooters and gun enthusiasts. Elsewhere, the folks who want to call .44-40 "44 WCF" instead of .44-40 and vice versa, and/or the people who swear "WCF" stands for Winchester Center Fire while others will go to their graves saying it's Winchester Central Fire; the millions who refer to the Colt 1911 A1 as a ".45 automatic" do not get offended when purists come back and chime in "no! it's semi-auto". More often than not, they're spirited exchanges about a subject we all love, firearms, conducted in a respectful, NOT put-down manner.
Our host David Drake, who did a leisurely, informative, clearly photographed and clear audio'd report, held his audience's attention for 22 minutes, probably is aware that it's .45 Colt, but chose to state the name that somehow has "taken hold" and become more frequently and commonly used, .45 Long Colt.
At a gun show some years ago I was curious (while blessed to own handguns and long guns in the caliber yet they were inconsistent in their markings, ".45 Colt" and ".45 Long Colt," just like so many of the factory ammunition boxes in my inventory) and politely queried an executive of an ammunition manufacturer why their product wasn't labeled the old school and correct name, ".45 Colt."
"It's the lawyers," he responded. "It sounds like an urban legend, but somewhere in the annals of anecdotes of stupid shooters and Darwin-Award winners -- in the dark regarding the very clear and basic differences between .45 ACP and .45 Colt -- and unscrupulous attorneys coming in to play the liability insurance angle and apparently a costly claim was made and paid. Don't ask me how." Hearing this first hand I thought it was interesting and incredibly sad that a century old caliber, .45 Colt, was -- in some quarters -- being supplanted by .45 Long Colt. During this brief, informative, CIVIL, friendly exchange that's what I came away with.
. . . . Now, to "James," on behalf of the 500 + "thumbs UP" and 90 + individuals who took the time to comment re David Drake's TH-cam presentation here, we'll categorically make the claim, make the charge that while "James" portends to be knowledgeable about guns and cartridges he's clearly and foolishly shown in this exchange that he comes up WAY SHORT in his people skills. "James" comes across as one of those one-note "know-it-alls" and worse, a spoiled child, immature, with lack of character and zero respect in conversing with a fellow aficionado of all things gun related.
Many are wondering why you didn't feel your opening line, "FYI... there is no such thing as a .45 LONG Colt. Just say '.45 Colt.'" wasn't sufficient. Because it really was. For reasons only you know, you had to add "so people don't assume you don't know what you're talking about." That put-down line would make even the gentlest of souls hot under the collar.
We were all witness to "James" steering this into a pissing match. Shameful.
@@scvandy3129 - thank you for the kind words. I will have to yield to this "higher power.".
@James it’s a slang term, and most people use slang in their daily lives. Nobody likes a grammar nerd, STFU!
The question isn't "which gun won the West" it's "What does that even mean?"
It was basically a marketing tool. A title like that gets guns a lot of attention. The term basically means that the gun was the most popular and most sold gun in that time.
I'd go for the Miroku authorized manufacture '73 as reputedly better made. More expensive, at about $2,000. Go for the gusto, that's what your money is for.
I compared both side-by-side and they were priced the same at the time. I went with the better quality
David Drake. Interesting. You are the first I have heard of to think the Uberti is better quality then the Miroku. I have not seen them side by side. It's all a matter of personal taste. Have fun shooting it, if, that is you can find the ammo...... My Winchester is in the super popular 32-20 that zillions of people have so no ammo at any price. Just kidding. It was hard to find before all this shortage, so I guess I'll have to reload.
The argument is still void, the year doesnt matter. It was the design in general lol they can all hush now
I think those old designs are less offensive to the public than the AR platform or the AKs. At my age I'm not interested in playing sober. Vision and conditioning are issues past seventy. So what if I sit home watching old western movies.
Nice gun. But I always kind of think “oh well” when I find out somebody’s nice lever action is in .357 magnum. I understand why cowboy action guys like it and all. Cheaper and easier to shoot and find ammo for.
But it was mean’t to shoot a .44-40. Basically the power of a .44 Magnum handgun with the accuracy and ease of a rifle.
At least a .45 Colt (even if it was never designed for that, it’s at least a period cartridge).
Great gun and action.
ClassicGunsToday ClassicGunsToday , the ‘73 was chambered in 38.40 and 32.20.... so, it was meant to shoot all 3
409rommel but wasn’t the original chambering in .44-40?
Anyway, don’t the 32-20 and .38-40 function as rifle cartridges and have thin bottle necks that expand and sealed the chambers preventing blowback?
That is the reason I went with .44-40 over .45 Colt or .44 Magnum in my 1873
ClassicGunsToday ClassicGunsToday , it sure was! 38.40 came out in 1879, 32.20 in 1882. I have a ‘73 chambered in 32.20 from 1888. Sweet rifle.
Major manufacturers offered their guns in a variety of calibers. It depends on what you mean by "originally". I have a 19th century SAA in 38 caliber. There were plenty of people who carried 36 and 38 caliber guns in the frontier period.
Khắc cảnh lê I mean originally. Sure there were Colt SAA (and Navy, etc) in .38 /shortLong Colt and such in the 19th century. But there was never a .357 Magnum Colt SAA as that round was not developed until 1935.
I'll save up and buy the Miroku Winchester 73 model in the .45colt caliber to be more authentic and I would never do any modifications to it so as to allow the rifle to work itself in naturally !!!
Jeffrey Elliott doesn’t the Miroku have a tang safety and generally stray more from the original?
Didn't Winchester refuse to make a rifle in Colt 45 for a very long time? He made it in 44 40.
Also, Winchester made plenty of rifles in a 38 caliber, so a 357 isn't that far off, and modern 357 rifles can shoot the older 38 rounds.
@@RSWT79 No it doesn't have a safety on it at all to my knowledge !!!
@@khaccanhle1930 Yeah the Winchester in .45 Colt came along much later but I don't know exactly when !!! It's just that I prefer that caliber because it's the same as the hollywood cowboy load which is the .45 Colt !!!! And well since I don't reload .45 Colt is cheaper to shoot than the .44-40 caliber !!!
45colt is not an original cal in any Winchester rifle. 44-40 was the big pistol cal. ,Colt chambered it in their single actions, but Winchester wouldn’t chamber the 45 colt rd.
Its Pronounced Sto Ger Steoger LOL
I’d tacticalize the shit out of it. Add a good red dot and maybe an angled foregrip for starters
damiion666 Good Lord I sure hope you’re kidding. What a waste of a beautiful fire arm that would be
David Drake i thought the exact same thing. These big wooded beauties should be kept away from the black polymer tacticraze
They are not a true replica , the barrels are one eighth of an inch less across the flats.
Bruh
Too much about "beautiful." What's the fit of wood to metal? How is the wood treated? Lacquer? Plastic? You wandered from revolver to leather to draw from. to other weapons.
I really don't know why you would want a short barrel. In the old days a longer barrel was prefered. Lets keep it original okay? Why is there always someone who wants to screw up history?
To each their own.
@@drdrake63 I only know what was taught to me and I stand by that. My dad who was very sharp in these matters just passed away. I have no other defense.
Nothing wrong with History, all for it, but there’s a thing called progress, improving on what’s already perfect (nothing wrong with that either). 👍🏼❤️🤠
They made the 73 with a 12” inch barrel up to 37” inches. I believe the 16 and under were known as “trapper” models, could be wrong on the last part. Cheers
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