.45 Colt is one of those cartridges you really have to reload for. If you reload and cast your own projectiles, you can make it for pennies. It is my favorite caliber.
IMO: These levers are built better than the stuff that was coming out of New Haven for at least the last 35 years of that factory's life. Miroku is a very reputable manufacture that has been around for a long time. The purple colouring you see on certain parts is usually do to the type of cast the part was made from. The reaction of the blueing over time is different than milled or forged parts. Usually an indication of an investment cast part.
I just got my License to carry in July , and after getting a couple Second Gen Colt’s , and a Pietta 1858 Remington Clone, that i did a Kirst Cartridge conversion on. As far as growing up with my dad being a machinist, and as much as we both love USA manufacturingthe Japanese are top notch , in manufacturing.Getting one of these Miroku 1873 Winchester Sporters in .357 Magnum.The quality is at the level of my Shimano Tiagra 80w tuna reel…Made in Japan like a fine watch There are no burrs on this rifle, the fit and finish is excellent
The pointy thing on the butt stock is cal,ed a Cresent Butt Plate.... the other feature which separates the rifle from the carbine is the forearm cap instead of a barrel band found on the carbine...nice well fitted qua,ity firearm... worth the price you paid...!!
As a Hungarian I could use it in my country for two things: sporting (cowboy action shooting is existing here fortunately) and hunting. Although as the .357Magnum would not exceed - and not even close - to 2500Joules for muzzle energy, it will not be legal for "big game", namely red deer, fallow deer, mouflon and wild boar. But is legal for roe deer - only needs 1000Joules for muzzle energy - and red fox, golden jackal, European badger, raccoon, raccoon dog (these last two are invasive species as well), without muzzle energy requirement. Hunting for roe deer in a stalking style this rifle would make a great company, lightweight and accurate enough for short distances (well within 100meters, rather within 50meters for a good stalker). But for the big games what require 2500Joules at the muzzle would be great the have a Davide Pedersoli M1886 in .45-70Goverment, and these two would cover all the "fun gun" for hunting. And some good - strictly side-by-side or single shot - shotguns. And a .22Long Rifle, even a single shot, just for pest control. Also, ammo reloading is legal here after a legal course where you get your license for reloading.
Not sure if you covered this in your video, Miroku made a design tweak to the brass lifter to eject to the right of the operator. If you skim to the 6:00-6:05 time stamp you’ll see the cut-away on the top right of the brass lifter, genius.
Thanks, I have the same rifle, but from Taylor and Company and tried the renaissance wax after seeing your comment-it worked great. I never knew wax on guns could be used and now I use it on all my blued guns, and notice it really brings back to life the finish on both the stock and all the blued parts.
Your groups are due to the ammo. If you know anyone that reloads ask them to build you some 357 using rifle reload data. The rifle data requires slow burning powder - which makes all the difference in the world regarding accuracy.
Nice detailed review. I knew an 80 year old guy that had an original from the 1900s and every year he would take it up into the Olympic mountain range, shoot a deer and carry it out.
Makes a great eastern deer rifle. 357 is no joke. Brother of mine killed a couple nice bucks with his carbine. The biggest problem I have with Miroku, is that they make one profile barrel for all calibers. That applies to Brownings as well here. If you have an 1892 for example, you get the 44 mag profile even if you have a 357. Essentially the smaller the caliber, the heavier it is.
Are you kidding? It is an excellent defensive gun. You have 10+1 capacity which is easy to top up while still in battery. It is chambered in the premier defense caliber and even shooting 38 special you get the ballistics of a 357 from a handgun.
Miroku is licensed to reproduce the 1873 by design under license by Winchester Repeating Arms unlike A. Uberti, Italy which is NOT licensed to reproduce the 1873 Winchester.
Friend you lack understanding. A "license" would only apply to the use of the name Winchester. The patents are long run out. I could make this rifle in my garage if I so desired, so long as I didn't mark them Winchester. Uberti's are actually make more correctly to the original design than Mirokus.
I've been a firearms dealer for 20 years and have been shooting and collecting guns for 50 years so I want to say to you before you start trying to tell people about the Winchester rifle you have in front of you first you need to know more about the rifle the shell lifter is brass not copper and the wood on your Winchester is black walnut come on guy learn more about your firearms before making your next video.
Defensive gun??? Search “Costa Ludas”l ever-action as a defensive rifle, the lever-action is a very formidable defensive gun (maybe not the best) but if strategically trained in this platform yes! Ask yourself why do people rely on revolvers and manual actions? Because it’s Dependable period.
Wrong, I've had both and out of the box, the Miroku is way ahead of Uberti's in fit and finish. However a good gunsmith can make the Uberti the way it should be. I have a Browning BLR in .308 and it's made by Miroku as well and is a beautiful rifle.
Auto matic dust cover...🤣 anyone clicking on this video already knows more about this rifle than you do but your effort to explain all you don't know is hilarious...🤪
In my opinion, if it’s not an original caliber, it’s not authentic to the original rifle. Of course that means hand loading 44-40, 38-40, or 32-20. In the old days they would special order the sporting rifle with a short octagon barrel because the off the shelf carbine only came with a round barrel.
.45 Colt is one of those cartridges you really have to reload for. If you reload and cast your own projectiles, you can make it for pennies. It is my favorite caliber.
IMO: These levers are built better than the stuff that was coming out of New Haven for at least the last 35 years of that factory's life. Miroku is a very reputable manufacture that has been around for a long time. The purple colouring you see on certain parts is usually do to the type of cast the part was made from. The reaction of the blueing over time is different than milled or forged parts. Usually an indication of an investment cast part.
I just got my License to carry in July , and after getting a couple Second Gen Colt’s , and a Pietta 1858 Remington Clone, that i did a Kirst Cartridge conversion on.
As far as growing up with my dad being a machinist, and as much as we both love USA manufacturingthe Japanese are top notch , in manufacturing.Getting one of these Miroku 1873 Winchester Sporters in .357 Magnum.The quality is at the level of my Shimano Tiagra 80w tuna reel…Made in Japan like a fine watch
There are no burrs on this rifle, the fit and finish is excellent
The pointy thing on the butt stock is cal,ed a Cresent Butt Plate.... the other feature which separates the rifle from the carbine is the forearm cap instead of a barrel band found on the carbine...nice well fitted qua,ity firearm... worth the price you paid...!!
As a Hungarian I could use it in my country for two things: sporting (cowboy action shooting is existing here fortunately) and hunting. Although as the .357Magnum would not exceed - and not even close - to 2500Joules for muzzle energy, it will not be legal for "big game", namely red deer, fallow deer, mouflon and wild boar. But is legal for roe deer - only needs 1000Joules for muzzle energy - and red fox, golden jackal, European badger, raccoon, raccoon dog (these last two are invasive species as well), without muzzle energy requirement. Hunting for roe deer in a stalking style this rifle would make a great company, lightweight and accurate enough for short distances (well within 100meters, rather within 50meters for a good stalker). But for the big games what require 2500Joules at the muzzle would be great the have a Davide Pedersoli M1886 in .45-70Goverment, and these two would cover all the "fun gun" for hunting. And some good - strictly side-by-side or single shot - shotguns. And a .22Long Rifle, even a single shot, just for pest control. Also, ammo reloading is legal here after a legal course where you get your license for reloading.
The "AR-15" of the Old West
Not sure if you covered this in your video, Miroku made a design tweak to the brass lifter to eject to the right of the operator.
If you skim to the 6:00-6:05 time stamp you’ll see the cut-away on the top right of the brass lifter, genius.
I have the same rifle. I'd recommend using Renaissance Wax to protect the finish. Works great on wood and keeps the bluing dark and free of rust
Thanks, I have the same rifle, but from Taylor and Company and tried the renaissance wax after seeing your comment-it worked great. I never knew wax on guns could be used and now I use it on all my blued guns, and notice it really brings back to life the finish on both the stock and all the blued parts.
@@felixrodriguez5847Feeds the wood also and highlights the wood grain. Great stuff!
Your groups are due to the ammo. If you know anyone that reloads ask them to build you some 357 using rifle reload data. The rifle data requires slow burning powder - which makes all the difference in the world regarding accuracy.
Walnut only on Winchesters....come on man....newbies never learn...!!
Nice detailed review. I knew an 80 year old guy that had an original from the 1900s and every year he would take it up into the Olympic mountain range, shoot a deer and carry it out.
Makes a great eastern deer rifle. 357 is no joke. Brother of mine killed a couple nice bucks with his carbine. The biggest problem I have with Miroku, is that they make one profile barrel for all calibers. That applies to Brownings as well here. If you have an 1892 for example, you get the 44 mag profile even if you have a 357. Essentially the smaller the caliber, the heavier it is.
Wonderful detailed video. I just scored one on Gunbroker, in color case hardened! Pick it up Sunday only an hour from my house
Coming in a year later, but doesn't the model X have a thick rubber recoil pad? Might have just a little to do with the recoil feeling reduced...
It would be good in the woods for deer hunting . As long as your shots were within 70 yards .
I just got some ammo for this rifle.Am i ok with Semi wadcutters?
Nice rifle
Are you kidding? It is an excellent defensive gun. You have 10+1 capacity which is easy to top up while still in battery. It is chambered in the premier defense caliber and even shooting 38 special you get the ballistics of a 357 from a handgun.
Miroku is licensed to reproduce the 1873 by design under license by Winchester Repeating Arms unlike
A. Uberti, Italy which is NOT licensed to reproduce the 1873 Winchester.
Friend you lack understanding. A "license" would only apply to the use of the name Winchester. The patents are long run out. I could make this rifle in my garage if I so desired, so long as I didn't mark them Winchester. Uberti's are actually make more correctly to the original design than Mirokus.
I think the .38 Special round is like 14/100 shorter than .357 magnum. It isnt much.
Pena que no Brasil ,não temos esse modelo fabricado aqui;Muito bonito mesmo.
Tem LULADRÃO.
The lever hold is not any kind of safety
I've been a firearms dealer for 20 years and have been shooting and collecting guns for 50 years so I want to say to you before you start trying to tell people about the Winchester rifle you have in front of you first you need to know more about the rifle the shell lifter is brass not copper and the wood on your Winchester is black walnut come on guy learn more about your firearms before making your next video.
I heard him say “brass” several times.
If Kamala wins, these will be the next "Assault rifles"
Don’t really matter, an ass in every crowd and everyone’s got one. Just like shit house Lawyers😂
@@sboy1955I believe your shell lifter is properly called the carrier.
Cool
Mine is in 45 Colt
Beautiful rifle...but wimpy narrative and lack of historical knowledge and basic firearm savvy, makes this review stumble and fumble. 👎
How about you do a review?
Boring!
El mejor rifle de la casa winchester.
Defensive gun???
Search “Costa Ludas”l ever-action as a defensive rifle, the lever-action is a very formidable defensive gun (maybe not the best) but if strategically trained in this platform yes!
Ask yourself why do people rely on revolvers and manual actions?
Because it’s Dependable period.
So glad my uberti is made better then the jap crap.
wop slop vs jap crap?
Wrong, I've had both and out of the box, the Miroku is way ahead of Uberti's in fit and finish. However a good gunsmith can make the Uberti the way it should be. I have a Browning BLR in .308 and it's made by Miroku as well and is a beautiful rifle.
Had both also and Winchester beats Uberti hands down. True to form Uberti wins, but it’s internal only and won’t be noticed.
Auto matic dust cover...🤣 anyone clicking on this video already knows more about this rifle than you do but your effort to explain all you don't know is hilarious...🤪
In my opinion, if it’s not an original caliber, it’s not authentic to the original rifle. Of course that means hand loading 44-40, 38-40, or 32-20. In the old days they would special order the sporting rifle with a short octagon barrel because the off the shelf carbine only came with a round barrel.
If it was an octagon, it would be a RARE find!
If a duck had three legs he wouldn't waddle 😂
So glad my uberti is made better then the jap crap.
I have to agree