Another thing you could have mentioned, is the lever/trigger safety spring! Allowing the lever to close easier and disengaging it. I just got mine tuned up and ready for spring! Dang this winter is just too long! Great video Mike!
I bought a "73 rifle in 44-40 standard 24" bbl. back in 1990. It was a tack driver with black powder or smokeless! Back then cowboy action hadn't caught on around where I live (North Georgia). Even today it isn't as popular around here as it is in other areas. I was loading black powder cartridges back in the mid '80's for my trapdoor springfield, and folks would say," why do you want to mess up your gun shooting that nasty stuff?" Around here it is a cultural vaccum when it comes to all things black powder. Just about anytime I would go to the range I would be the only one shooting black powder. One particular day I had my percussion sharps military rifle with me, and a remark was made by some other shooter, which is typical of the comments I would usually hear...."What's that you're putting into the back of that thing?" When I explained how the gun worked, the man said, "Oh. I thought you had a "musket-loader"!
I'd say that this was a great video. But that's what you make. Thanks for the information on how they slick up the action of the '73. I'm looking at getting one. I just haven't set myself on the caliber yet.
Well, I know what to do with my lottery win! That is gorgeous, Mike, and -- as always -- your shooting skill is most impressive. I don't compete, but think I'd go with the tuned version -- taking your advice regarding the spring.
@@MercyMinister Uberti makes standard rifles and carbines without the logo. Miroku in Japan actually makes the 1873 under license by Winchester themselves, having the genuine Winchester logo on it. I own a Winchester Model 1873 from Miroku, and it is my most prized possession. That gun will be buried with me.
I have a couple of really nicely built S&W wheelguns. Not sure whose spring they used in one of them, but it has a great double action pull. The only problem is that it will only set off about 3 in 5 CCI primers. I have to build practice rounds with Winchester primers or it just isn't happy. (and yes the spring is tensioned about as much as I dare). Its kind of a shame because CCI primers are the easiest to find in my area.
Question: SASS modifies the guns for short stroking and polishes sliding surfaces for smoother movement to improve competition performance, but was this treatment made to original guns by their owners in the late 1800's?
There being no such thing in mechanics as a "free lunch", performing the same mechanical function in a shorter lever throw distance will result in a necessary increase in effort through the shorter lever arc. That is probably an acceptable trade off since the operation of the lever is not particularly difficult anyway in the pistol caliber chamberings of the 1873. The function of the later, Browning designed, lever guns (Models 86, 92, 94, 95) used a lever which first dropped the locking block and lowered the pivot point of the lever itself. This results in a "two speed" lever, so to speak. The first step multiplies the effort of the shooter to provide unlocking and initial extraction, the second step provides a faster bolt travel, especially for the longer bolts of the Models 86, 94, 95 and the final step, again, multiplies the efforts to seat the cartridge and engage the extractor and compress the ejector spring. .
Uberti's are beautifull but very troublesome.Triggers are horribly heavy ,loading gate is too sharp and magazine is unable to unload.I love these guns for their heritage but hate them for their faulty handling and issues when using them.Always a new surprise to spoil your shooting fun is my experience.
I don't think that there is enough benefit to a shorter action when it comes to function and the modifications to the springs and slides cannot guarantee you that each and every primer is going to be contacted and fired. For all of the money that it takes to do the short stroke, if you are not a contender for being a championship cowboy shooting star then you are just wasting your money and screwing up your rifle from now on. It's not worth the tenths of a second that it is going to take off of your shooting time. I have an original model 1873 that would probably put the reproduction models to shame as far as it's action and shooting goes. It is so slick from the thousands of rounds that have been put through it that I don't think it could be made better than what it is now.
Were you talking to me Wyatt? Didn't know I was your brother. The terms "forearm" and "forend" are interchangeable. Either one is appropriate. Maybe it is a regional thing. Where I grew up, it was always called a forearm. I can show you dozens of references, here's one wiki.answers.com/Q/Where_is_the_forearm_on_a_rifle_gun I'm sure you can find more easily. See you around Bubba
LOVE how you catch the spent carts right into your hat.
That hat is a cool catcher's mitt. I used to catch brass in my shirt pocket that my 1911 threw out.
Nice explanation and a good injury. Greetings to you from Iraq, Mosul, since I was young, and I love the Winchester Rifle for the Henry factory.
Another thing you could have mentioned, is the lever/trigger safety spring! Allowing the lever to close easier and disengaging it. I just got mine tuned up and ready for spring! Dang this winter is just too long! Great video Mike!
I bought a "73 rifle in 44-40 standard 24" bbl. back in 1990. It was a tack driver with black powder or smokeless! Back then cowboy action hadn't caught on around where I live (North Georgia). Even today it isn't as popular around here as it is in other areas. I was loading black powder cartridges back in the mid '80's for my trapdoor springfield, and folks would say," why do you want to mess up your gun shooting that nasty stuff?" Around here it is a cultural vaccum when it comes to all things black powder. Just about anytime I would go to the range I would be the only one shooting black powder. One particular day I had my percussion sharps military rifle with me, and a remark was made by some other shooter, which is typical of the comments I would usually hear...."What's that you're putting into the back of that thing?" When I explained how the gun worked, the man said, "Oh. I thought you had a "musket-loader"!
Love your "brass-catching" hat.
Had the same issue on mine after an action job. Tightened the screws and now it's flawless.
As always, great, informative video.
Thanks for the vid, it makes for a pleasant addition to your fall 2014 article!
Your hat sure makes one of a hell case catcher.
Another great video, I like your hat ! it seems to be a great brass catcher too.
That rifle looks like it would be a lot of fun to shoot.
I'd say that this was a great video. But that's what you make. Thanks for the information on how they slick up the action of the '73. I'm looking at getting one. I just haven't set myself on the caliber yet.
Very similar to my saddle carbine, "Cimarron" 18 in. barrel. Very nice to shoot.
Ubreti makes some good quality guns.
This beautiful gun is a wish for sport shooter , Thank you 👌👍🌵🤗🤠💙🌷
Mike, You passed the flinch “test” with flying colors.
Very pretty lookin rifle.
Awesome!!!
Sweet piece!
Well, I know what to do with my lottery win! That is gorgeous, Mike, and -- as always -- your shooting skill is most impressive. I don't compete, but think I'd go with the tuned version -- taking your advice regarding the spring.
ever think of hot gluing a Folgers can to the top of your hat?
nice looking rifle
"Let's try for a nads shot". I almost fell over. More vids Mike. I could watch you shoot and review cowboy guns all day. What kind of hat?
I like the custom brass catcher. As for the rifle, Yes, please, but can we delete the logo?
Yes, the logo is a big distraction. That alone would preclude me from wanting to purchase this rifle.
@@MercyMinister Uberti makes standard rifles and carbines without the logo. Miroku in Japan actually makes the 1873 under license by Winchester themselves, having the genuine Winchester logo on it. I own a Winchester Model 1873 from Miroku, and it is my most prized possession. That gun will be buried with me.
nice brass catcher there
I have a couple of really nicely built S&W wheelguns. Not sure whose spring they used in one of them, but it has a great double action pull. The only problem is that it will only set off about 3 in 5 CCI primers. I have to build practice rounds with Winchester primers or it just isn't happy. (and yes the spring is tensioned about as much as I dare). Its kind of a shame because CCI primers are the easiest to find in my area.
Great video and some need to know information should someone pick up one of these and experience the same problems.
Very informative
i want an 1873 but there's so many out there winchester taylor emf which one do you thing is the best ?thank you
www.cascity.com/forumhall/index.php?topic=16849.0 some good info here
super nice
This is why I don’t monkey with action jobs, I learn to shoot how it comes from the factory. Real cowboys back in the day did it that way.
Catchin' brass in the hat alla Doug Turnbull lol
Mighty fine, once you fixed it, Thanks
Going to "Drop Some Coins" for a back-up main spring, Just In Case ?
Love the old lever rifles in pistol calibers.
magnifique carabine !!
Question: SASS modifies the guns for short stroking and polishes sliding surfaces for smoother movement to improve competition performance, but was this treatment made to original guns by their owners in the late 1800's?
Smoothing, yes...short stroking, no
Thanks Duelist1954!
Does the spring tensioner screw have an opposing nut, or do you just need to get in there with some thread locker?
Is that hat designed to catch your brass?
Beautiful rifle. Does it have stock options too? That would be a good one for the wish list.
Is Your 1873 in 44-40 Caliber?
can you get it in 44-40
Michael Cribbin yessir you can
There being no such thing in mechanics as a "free lunch", performing the same mechanical function in a shorter lever throw distance will result in a necessary increase in effort through the shorter lever arc. That is probably an acceptable trade off since the operation of the lever is not particularly difficult anyway in the pistol caliber chamberings of the 1873. The function of the later, Browning designed, lever guns (Models 86, 92, 94, 95) used a lever which first dropped the locking block and lowered the pivot point of the lever itself. This results in a "two speed" lever, so to speak. The first step multiplies the effort of the shooter to provide unlocking and initial extraction, the second step provides a faster bolt travel, especially for the longer bolts of the Models 86, 94, 95 and the final step, again, multiplies the efforts to seat the cartridge and engage the extractor and compress the ejector spring. .
Ouch Mike, you and shooting people in the nads.
Well, remind me never to get a rifle "slicked up" for SAS shooting.
I like my rifle to,. . . . actually shoot
nice but ill stick to the one i have. i don't work to be fastest just most accurate.
Uberti's are beautifull but very troublesome.Triggers are horribly heavy ,loading gate is too sharp and magazine is unable to unload.I love these guns for their heritage but hate them for their faulty handling and issues when using them.Always a new surprise to spoil your shooting fun is my experience.
I don't think that there is enough benefit to a shorter action when it comes to function and the modifications to the springs and slides cannot guarantee you that each and every primer is going to be contacted and fired. For all of the money that it takes to do the short stroke, if you are not a contender for being a championship cowboy shooting star then you are just wasting your money and screwing up your rifle from now on. It's not worth the tenths of a second that it is going to take off of your shooting time. I have an original model 1873 that would probably put the reproduction models to shame as far as it's action and shooting goes. It is so slick from the thousands of rounds that have been put through it that I don't think it could be made better than what it is now.
too bad it costs more than an AR10.
I'd take this over an ar 10. You can use smokeless or blackpowder, lead ball or regular bullets, shotshells or solid slugs.
Hey Bubba...It's a forend not a forearm.
Were you talking to me Wyatt? Didn't know I was your brother. The terms "forearm" and "forend" are interchangeable. Either one is appropriate. Maybe it is a regional thing. Where I grew up, it was always called a forearm.
I can show you dozens of references, here's one
wiki.answers.com/Q/Where_is_the_forearm_on_a_rifle_gun
I'm sure you can find more easily.
See you around Bubba
duelist1954
+duelist1954 forget him, your videos are unreal. :D
Yeah, I'm from PA and have heard both.
At 3:48, did anyone see that she'll land in his hat?
I think everybody saw that...LOL