The Best Speaker Award - Tekton Double Impact Speaker Review !
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- This is my Tekton Double Impact review. We will talk about what is the best speaker to date in this price category as an all-rounder. Is the double impact truly a high-end audiophile speaker at only $3000?
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Double impact vs Klipsch herese
I'm interested in the double impacts, do you think the Iotavx intergrated amp bridged will power them? I also have two of Rel t/in.
Thanks in advance.
Mate, this is one of the best reviews of speakers I've seen. You're honest and you picked the right points. You deserve a big thank you.
Nice to see your channel doing so well, i know i am not the only one appreciating what you are providing!
I plan on owning a pair of Double Impacts in the near future... its reassuring to hear so many positive things about them, from someone who is surrounded by so many mind boggling speakers at work... Thank You
Thank you for the review. I have been eyeing Tekton speakers for a while, but haven't pulled the trigger yet.
Thank You, for a wonderful review involving so many aspects of the speaker. Thanks again
I have had many, many pairs of speakers including the Double Impacts and I completely agree with you on the point that they are extremely good all around speakers. The Tekton DI and Totem Acoustic Hawks are so far my two favorite pairs of speakers, from what I have owned. I'll be looking forward to see your channel grow, you are doing a nice job!
Have you ever listened to the focal aria 948
@Marten Dekker I love 948s, sound incredible for drum and guitar reproduction. What about them don't you like?
Looking forward to the tube amp review!
Nice review, Jay. After considerable system tweeking over time, I did get my DI's to disappear. After playing with bi-amping, I am now using the Muzishare R100 805 version, integrated Chinese amp. I have tube rolled extensively. I do a lot of vibration management in my system. The effect of reducing vibrations is understudied, IMO. Curiously, I've learned that too much imaging (except for single vocalists or single instruments) can be an indicator of lower than the best resolution. With the speakers about 8' apart, I get wall-to-wall sound with great depth in my 25x17x10 room.
Another good review. You capture their strengths with great clarity. May I ask: have you had the chance to listen to any of GR-Research products? My compliments to one and all.
Damn, I'm watching this old video, you got much better at communicating.
I like your videos and always watching you,,
I think the case with DI is the better amp not warm sounding one, DI is extremely transparent and sensitive to the minimum change, So this little Chinese amp you got is nothing but a reference level amp, or it's at least the best amp you tried on DI, I think it's that simple.
You need to review the Tekton Encores! These are the next level of the impacts with improved drivers. Would love to see an encore review from you.
Those are "on special" for $7,000. I don't think there's any real connection to the DI other than the same company makes them and they look similar (ugly).
@@kohnfutner9637 keep editing that post till you get it right, you can do it little guy
@@robk5745 you're a jerk, hope you feel proud of yourself
Nice review.Wish there were a few reviews where DI and DI monitor with and without a sub.I could see getting 3 monitors for HT.Also more reviews of the two SET models.But it might be that the Double Impact just got it right and others in line don’t compare
When are you going to review the Tekton lore reference? Hopefully with the same tube amp or Yaqin tube amp. Keep up the great work!
For the love of god, finally a definitive review.
Hi there from the UK. Great review - I'm a new subscriber. Which price point could these speakers compete with and which brands (refering to what you've heard in the past)? Cheers,
Hi Jay! I would love to see you do a review for the Moabs with Be tweeter or the new Ulf 15s!! We need to hear your impressions on a flagship model from Tekton
I like Tekton speakers, and am looking at purchasing either the DI se or Encore's, for my end game speakers. But as far as finding full range great sounding speakers for under 3k, you need to check out KLH Kendall speakers priced at about 1.6k, they sound fanomanal. As a matter of fact for a budget system might be my first pick.
My dream speakers are the Wilson Audio Sabrinas, but I might have to settle for these
Hello NBT, I purchased two Tekton 4-10 subwoofers in beautiful red. I love them to death, and I hear great things about Tekton's double impact. However, I am really interested in hearing more about Tekton's line of speakers. This includes the Lore, the Dynamite, and the many of the other mid towers and bookshelf speakers from Tekton. I think this is a niche that could be explored as there are very limited reviews on this companies speakers with a lot of curiosity about them. A lot of these Tektons speakers range from 600 to 9.5k and rely on the same patented technology in different configurations.
Thanks for the great review. Now I'm thinking about returning my JBL studio 580 for the DI. Will I see a big improvement from this upgrade?
I think this speaker would look best in the blue or black paint job. I agree it may work best with a tube based system, maybe the Schiit Freya+ preamp and Vidar or Aegir amplifier. Primaluna is another option.
From 07:15 to 07:20 says it all. Damn! I wish I got these over the Enzo XL's. Tekton rocks!
I am debating on trying these vs Klipsch Forte. Tekton has so many moving parts, that worries me for longevity
It sure is a big statement to make.
Chungus Pizza I have both. Each have their unique sound signatures.
Any chance you can review the Double Impact SE?
I know you own Hegel too. Can you share details why would you not consider the H120 or H190 with these speakers over the tube amplifier? You get warmer sound from the tube but how do you feel the amp's ability to control the speaker with a non tube setup? I understand all amplifiers work well, but why the tube over others for this speaker. Looks like the speaker has lot of drivers, won't a high damping factor have more impact on the sound for these floor standing speakers? Tubes are good enough to drive these just as well?
Thank you for these additional comments on the Double Impacts. Something I'd like to see in the future is a comparison of the regular DI to the DI SE. What difference do these different drivers make? Are they incrementally better or do they destroy the "secret sauce" of the DI? Also, the Tekton Electron and Electron SE which appear as scaled down DIs... Do you lose a lot sonically with these or are they actually better suited to smaller rooms than the DI? Would love to see answers to questions like this that are very pertinent for making a buying decision but are nowhere to be found on the manufacturer's website. Thanks again and keep up the informative and thoughtful reviews.
Terry, before making a purchase, I emailed Eric @ Tekton regarding the Electron vs. Double Impact. I have a small but dedicated room 12.5 x 13-Eric recommended the DI. He said they "do a lot more" than the Electron and unless space negated it, the DI was the way to go. I've since placed and order for upgraded DI's... still waiting on delivery. I would also love to hear more regarding the difference between the regular DI, $300 upgraded and SE versions!
The double impact are very in design compared to the legacy focused se. I saw your video on both speakers. Which do you think is better? Lets not think price range.
Great review! I'd love to try these, but my wife hates the look and I don't have a man-cave. Jay, which was you favourite amp? The Willsenton tube? I'm amazed by the tube gear coming out of China now (performance vs price).
Jay I would love it if somebody could do a comparisson between the DI's and the DI Monitor with a sub (good musical one like REl 7Ti or SVS SB3000) They are large speakers either way but the height adds to the DI's being really deep.I think one might get even better bass depth and tone but get the goods on top with the monitors.Also disappoints me that nobody has done a comparisson betwen the Double Impact and the Double Impact SE.Thoughts?
I run the DI Monitor with an RSL Speedwoofer and Peachtree Nova 300 and it is epic without taking up the whole room
Can you review impact monitor too ? DI too big for me. I want to use separate subwoofers with impact.
My Double Impacts have played bloody hell with my early 50s hifi albums.
They sounded fine with my old JBLs but the detailed reproduction of the DIs makes them sound grainy and muddy.
BTW, I also use subs but the crossover is set as low as possible and volume is only 20-30%.
I think these will be my final set of speakers.
I would sure love to see a comparison of the Double Impact and the Double Impact SE. Anyone listen to both? Is the SE worth the extra $1k?
ordered my D I speakers in 4 ohm version to conect to my Willsenton R8 My question is should I hookup to the 4 ohm terminals on the R8 or still use the 8 ohm terminals.I know it sounds like a silly question but you do not say how you set it up ?
Would you revisit these with the Beryllium tweeter update?
Hi looking for your opinion. What would you pair with the Luxman L-507uxii. The PD or the DI.
Thanks. Nice video. Please Wen will you do a review on the tektons MOABS , up to now I havent seen any of the major hifi reviewers top guns ,such as yourself do any on these, are you aware that the MOABS only been out for a short few months and have already won awards for there awesome general performance..plus they have patents on there TECHNOLOGY..!?. and thanks for your videos there great...???
Good timing on this review. Really like your perspective. Seeing as someone mentioned marriage, would these marry nicely with a Peachtree Nova300? Do they get better with better hardware, ie Hegal H390? vs. other amps/integrated mentioned. Thank you!
I have mine married to A Peachtree Nova 300 and it is a match made in heaven (or hell if you are my neighbors!) The best sound I have ever experienced
The Double Impact is on my top list for speakers im thinking which particular integrated amp to pair them. I'm torn between Primaluna EVO 400 Integrated amp and Hegel H390 Integrated amp.
Get the EVO 400, Hegel are nice but Primaluna are a lifetime product, plus you can even upgrade the internals, I swapped out the coupling caps for Miflex KPCU in my Dialogue HP, although the only real bottleneck on PL integrated and preamps is the volume control, which is why I went with a PL power amp and high end passive preamp (Hattor or Icon 4 autoformer are great choices and have remote control of all functions).
Can these speakers be bi-amped? I'm "wedded" to a pair of Music Reference RM-9s (on my Vandersteens), and don''t want to change amps!
You make great reviews however you make everything great.
Most products can be great depending on it's purpose. Is it great for you? Is the real question you should ask when watching or reading my reviews
@The Next Best Thing Studio : yes . I feel all products great through your videos . And Feels wanted to try them all . That’s what I meant . Look like you took different direction . Np. :)
Looking at getting a pair
Hi excellent review. I considered the double impacts but ended up going with the Polk 707 when they went on sale at $1084 the pair. How would you say the Polks compare to the double impact considering the price differential when bought sale? Would the chinese tube amplifier be a good match for the Polk 707s?
Thanks
Not the same league, buddy. Not even close. Polk are indeed for the budget crowd, etc.
Is this pair bi wire or standard and did you get the crossover options or standard?
How would you compare these to other Tekton design models, especially smaller towers.
He makes a speaker for low watt valve amps you know? Think they are called The Special 15. That’s what I’m interested in also.
Doug G - SET 12 or 15.
Hello Jay have you had the opportunity yet to listen to any of the Tekton Subwoofers? If so can you please share? I'm interested in getting a pair of 4 The Ten Inch Subwoofers.
how about a review of Tekton Moab vs the double impact? only 1.5k more but seem to compete with more high end..
I am certainly curious as well
@@Jayiyagi That would be awesome! Perhaps the Double Impact SE vs the Moab?
I can hear Thujan barking in the background. Better throw him a bone! So I was wondering if you have any information on the Double Impact SE? It's another $1000 and I wondered what that money gets you. BTW, I ordered a pair and I've been looking at that Billie Amp really hard. Glad to hear its a great match! I'm elated to know that the sound gets better and better with whatever that's feeding them.
Thanks for the follow up vid. Since you get to listen to the magnepan line up, at this price point, why do you prefer the Tektons?
Easier with amplification. Totally different beasts than Magnepans expecially in bass.
How does it compare to the Wilson Sabrina regardless of price?
How much are the SE an improvement over the original DI?
If i did not already own a pair of KEF R11, I would audition these.
The speaker I've been eyeing up for a while. Well, they're fugly and gigantic but not something I care for. However I'm in the EU, and I'd have to find a good place for them.
If your in the EU I would search for a gently used pair of Canton 3.2DC reference speakers. Far more detail and sparkle along with crazy clean bass and dynamics to die for. I have a pair in the US and they are the best speakers I've ever heard under $5k. I think list was around $16k when the retailed...
It's hard to believe the DE with 12 additional drivers dedicated to midrange/midbass than the Pendragon has less sound in this region? Also, the honeycomb array on DE doesn't image better/different than Pendragon? Great video dude! sorry to be so picky
I agree on the amps comment. Although my experience is the DIs gets too boomy when close to the wall in my room . Which Chinese integrated did you try Jay. Interested in trying tubes .
I have very good Bass Traps. Perhaps that is why.... The Chinese amplifier is in the descriptions
The Next Best Thing Studio Thanks 🙏
I really wish that Zero Fidelity, Audiophiliac, and you had heard/reviewed the Double Impact SE version, but oh well... Thank you all for the so many speaker reviews you all have done. My search for D.I. SE reviews continues...
I have the DI SE. I like them very much but wasn't able to compare them w the standard version. See my comment above too.
@@Gregor7677 Thanks. Finding any comparison between the standard Double Impact and the SE version seems to be a lost cause... but continue to search I do...
Jay do you still like these speaker or you prefer the KLH 5's
Would these speakers be a good choice for someone who listens at low volumes (
Yeap. They sound good at low volumes too
Hi do you toe in the double impacts
Thanks
Have you heard of the goldenear tech triton 1 or reference with active subwoofer . If you did how do you compare to this.
THE TEKTONS ARE NOT ON THIS LEVEL
@@blackknight7017 I am a big fan of GoldenEar and Sandy Gross speakers, but . . Many of the post on the Tekton facebook page are people coming from Tritons to DIs or Moabs and they are very happy with the upgrade. Have not seen any the other way around.
The looks the looks or rather lack of. But you like them and that's all that matters
Quick questions, have you heard the smaller monitor version? And how did you find these at lower volumes?
Just keep the grills on. No problem.
I bought used Legacy Audio Focus original from late 90s for $2900. Love them. New legacy audio focus se is around 10k. However makes me curious which is better my old i bought or these tekton
I got the Focus 20/20, and it seems Tekton is using the same principle as Legacy speakers. Focus has 3 12 inch drivers to handle the base which I think is far from the 8 inch drivers that Tekton has. Midrange in the focus is incredible sweet and detailed, such a treat. The only way to know is compare them in the same room. Get the focus 3 feet far from the wall behind and place them on concrete pavers and you are all set.
Hi jay,
Choosing between pendragon vs double impact . My room is 14x18 treated .
Need your personal opinion?
Did you get the DI or Pendragon?
The main reason I want to get these speakers is because I do NOT want to fool around with freaking subwoofers!!
Can I change.one of the cone for a klipitch one
It seems to me that the tweeter array is where all the magic is, yet none of Tekton's flagship models has a similar array, and therefore I wonder if the flagship sound is more of the same thing you get from the DIs or is it somewhat or completely different. What are your thoughts on that?
Tekton tweeter array on its higher models are further improvements from the DI from my understanding. However I have not heard them so I can't tell you for sure if it's a totally different sound or not
@@Jayiyagi The flagship models in the Tekton line--Ulfberht, Encore, and Moab--all have a similar tweeter array. What distinguishes them from the DI is that double up the number of tweeters. So, instead of a single array of seven tweeters, with only the middle tweeter acting as a conventional high-end driver, the flagships use two 7-tweeter arrays separated by a single tweeter in what is essentially a MTM arrangement. As good a deal as you find the DIs at $3K, I would be willing to bet that you would find the Moabs at $4.5K an even better value. The 15-tweeter MTM tweeter array sounds truly remarkable. I personally own the Ulfberhts, but I think the Moabs (at half the price) offer almost certainly more bang for the buck.
Thanks for the thoughtful review of the DIs.
I wonder if these are better than my Forest Totem speakers, seems like they are competitors at that price range..Bass is probably better but midrange i doubt it..and trebble maybe totem wins too.
I think you would enjoy the Moab even more..
I'll second that as well , I'm seriously intrested in getting these , real soon myself.
@@fishingbear69 Yeah, for the extra 1500 it's a huge difference in scale of presentation.
@@Merlin-wo1kj if it's ok to ask do you have them yourself? And how would the MOABS compare in price value to a focal set around the same price point?
@@fishingbear69 I don't own the Tekton Moabs, just spent some time listening. I've also listened quite a bit to several Focal sets. Very different speakers overall, Tekton will have more "meat on the bone" stronger mid bass, deeper overall bass, less tweeter "sparkle" for the micro details. I personally would decide based on the room, the amp, and your music preferences. My current favorite speaker in this range is the Canton 3.2DC which I've owned now for only a couple months. It gives huge scale, strong bass but never boomy, and that detail and sparkle in the tweeters.
@@Merlin-wo1kj if you have big enough room
How about Parasound amps with the DI? Say the A21/23+ series amps?
Both great choices although I would prefer a21+ for more controlled bass
Tried the smaller 'upgraded' version. I used the guarantee. It was honored.
I thought they were 'spitty'. Enough so to spend the money to send them back.
"The smaller upgraded version"...by that do you mean the Electron SE?
Great review. Are you aware of anyone using them for mastering audio? Looking for full range passive speakers and interested in trying these out in my room at some point.
Not really the best choice for production imo
@@cosmicerror2924 Interested to know why not? Whats your experience with them?
Well these aren't neutrally voiced, that's one reason.
I have no personal experience with them.
@@cosmicerror2924 For what its worth, the frequency response graph actually looks pretty flat (aside from a slight bump on the low end which is expected given the dual subs). Hard to speak on voicing without first hand experience tho.
How about matching Primaluna with Double impact
I'm wonder the same. Eric designed the Prefect Set 12 and 15 for the tube interest. Are those more appropriate that the DI?
Maybe it’s me but I expected so much more from my Double Impacts that I setup yesterday, there’s just nothing special about them. I know they were only three grand but they lack highs and lows and they’re not a complex sound. My speaker placement might not be perfect and I know they have to be broken in but they have such a long way to go to be close that I find it hard to believe they’ll ever be great. I have a PrimLuna 300 EVO amp so I don’t think that’s the problem and I’m a musician for fifty years so I don’t think it’s me. I fell for the hype I guess.
@@paulds1580 then I don’t want them. I’m in my sixties, what am I going to do, spend a lot of time moving around a 118 pound speaker until I find the right spot? The hell with that. They’re gone, sold out of my life and I don’t need to be treated like crap by the owner of Tekton when I call to ask for placement advice.
Does it make sense to spend that.uch on speakers
Why is not a single hifi channel reviewing focal aria speakers? I wonder how this compares with focal aria 948.
how does Tekton match with Hegel?
My only issue is, they don't really look very good
Exactly my summary :)
@@morespinach9832 get different finish
Can that tube amp take KT120’s? Thanks.
I don't believe so. Check the description, theres a link to the amplifier. Also the gentlemen running the online store seems to be trustworthy and knowledgeable so feel free to shoot him an email
Hey man, consider doing a review on the Tekton Moab.
Test sound????
I thought multiple tweeters causes issues, comb or whatever it's called.
Not hearing any problems with Tekton speakers. I believe they have overcame that issue with their patented design. None of the reviews reported of having any comb effect issues
I bought into the hype of all these over-the-top review of these speakers and bought a pair. Initially, they sounded like crap but was told take 80-100 hours to break-in. So I waited. In the end, they do sound good but the bass is severely lacking. I don't understand how four 10" woofers have such weak bass response. I tried a few different amps in the 90-150 wpc range with same results. I wound up adding a single REL 8" sub to the system to compensate.
Thats odd. I get plenty bass for their size in my room. Maybe you have a null in your room or you just like a lot more bass
The bass doesn't surprise me. Those are basically Pro drivers. They are purposely designed to have a high sensitivity and output. So deep bass is sacrificed for that. They just are not going to dig deep into the well. My guess would be an f3 around 45-50 hertz .
WERE THESE SPEAKERS A GIFT FROM TEKTON DESIGN?
Why did this get a best speaker award when you said you prefer the pendragon to the double impact? A cheaper speaker by the same manufacturer, even. Just wondering why you decided to award the DI best speaker?
I have a pair of Pendragons on order - is it a mistake to have not ordered the DI's?
Not at all. But if you like a bit more high frequency extension and more impactful bass. Then the double impacts are a choice you may want to consider
@@Jayiyagi I suspect my "used to play in a band" old ears will be fine with the HFE.... I want my bass to sound musical - gut punches are optional. Appreciate your Tekton reviews. I have little doubt the DI's are great fun.
My GF calls these the "camaro" speakers. Not exactly wife/GF approved lol.
Can you look a bit more excited, please :) these are wild!
Those giant red speakers look like a Dr Who prop. Everyone says they sound amazing but how will they travel through time?
hahaha
so you're saying these are the best $3000 speakers in the world ?
Why aren't there any frequency response measurements taken and shown for these speakers? I have looked everywhere.
Hey so how do they compare to the S400?😂🤣😭
Saw an AudioScience forum thread about this. The opinions were divided it seems.
Had Tekton double impact and hated the size and appearance and build quality. The speakers were sensitive to placement and off axis performance was terrible. Went back to Zu Omen and everything was significantly better. Every.Single. Thing.
I could be that the dome "midranges" circling the central dome tweeter just don't have that much dispersion. They look large to me (over 1"), and apparently, the larger the dome, the less dispersion.
Man that is a beautiful amplifier! Go China!
Hi Jay, Tekton speakers are not available in Europe. We would appreciate if you could review speakers that are available in Europe for you European fans. Thanks
They are often shipped over as many people over there have them. At this price point, you are still doing well paying the shipping.
JTR 210RT/212RT over this full of lies SPECS and a company with terrible customer service record any day of the week. They don't kick ass with midbass, a $500 RP8KF has better midbass than Double Impacts.
I have heard these Tektons and agree they are good value, almost full range, capable of high output, and thus obviously versatile, but they are large, ugly and lacking resolution. For most people I think they are indeed end game speakers. Personally Tektons are not my thing. I own a pair of B&W 702 S2s, and chose them because of the resolution, and my end game speakers are most likely B&W or Focal etc for the same reason.
What do you mean by 'resolution'? High freq detail and clarity? B&W's sound fairly emaciated across the range to me, beaten easily by KEF's R7 or Dynaudio Evoke 30 for instance. Sound is soooo subjective!
@@morespinach9832 subjective yes, IME B&Ws big flaw is they need high quality power
@Marten Dekker everyone has different tastes, i have 804 D3s now and love them but I would not love them if my amp and source weren't high quality. Funny but I won a pair of Tekton Lores from Jays Patreon gig and they got delivered a few days ago... I am about to find out what Tekton is like in my system.
The con is they are so ugly