The trailer is pure insanity: “Unlike some other folks here, we have the most to prove” as it cuts to a male soldier running for his life while a plane crashes into a bunch other soldiers. Bruh...
Naw bro. I have respect for anyone who volunteers for military service even those who don’t fight on the front lines. You also have to remember at this time, women couldn’t serve on the front lines even if they wanted to. You know why. Uh literal sexism. I was in the army in Kuwait and Iraq and we lost 3 female airmen in support roles whose truck hit an IED killing them instantly. Something like 80% of the military is support roles.
@@coldchillin8382 I think you realize that sorting mail is a little different than being in an active combat zone. There are levels to this thing. It can't all be heroic or else none of it is. Noble is probably a better word to use in this situation.
"Sir, sir, there was a guy in 1922 who worked at a grocery stall in New York" "Okay, and?" "Sir... He was black!" "Mother of god... Commission a series, pre-approve for season 2".
@@davidlauderdale7147 There are black soldiers serving. Maybe if Netflix did a production as accurate as possible, it would have slapped. Unfortunately, Netflix wants to pretend they're such forward thinkers.
And watch, if you say this story is boring, you'll get the istaphobe treatment. Thank you for your service ladies, but your story and service is not worth my attention on a paid subscription service.
Lmao I don’t actually think ppl care about race percentages being correct they just want something to complain about. Just like when production companies intentionally hire some white actor to play an obviously non white character. It happens all the time in Hollywood but for some reason it rubs ppl the wrong way when it’s ppl that don’t look like them hmmmm. Either way if ppl want accuracy they need to advocate for that everywhere not just when it suits. WWII was lit
Why do ppl complain about “wokeness” but not white washing. Hollywood is almost never accurate but for some reason it’s a problem now hmm.. WWII was lit, it sucks when either brain dead side washes it with their filth views and culture. Just make it accurate, and when it’s not complain about it equally, or your point is ehhh
I'm european, born in the early 80s, grew up watching the fresh prince of bel air dubbed into my language, family matters, also dubbed, and not once thought anything bad about it, in fact, I loved those shows and was always looking forward to watching the next episode. I remember seeing strong female characters in movies such as alien and terminator 2 as well. Not just that, but in lethal weapon mel gibson is the nut case detective that destroys everything while danny glover was the responsible family man that tried to get some sense into mel gibson's head. Countless examples, from the boss of john travolta in face off being a black woman, to morgan freeman being the calm smart detective in seven, in contraposition of brad pitt's erratic behaviour. All of those movies/tv shows were from the 90s or early 2000s. Even clint eastwood made unforgiven, a western featuring a black guy (morgan freeman again) as his best friend. We were on the right path, we were being taught that race wasn't something we should focus on. We adored black actors and characters, such as wesley snipes' blade. Now that I'm older I'm shocked that the ONLY thing we can talk about is race, and that they've undone all the work. Even movies like philadelphia were teaching us about not discriminating homosexuals. WE WERE ON THE RIGHT PATH! I can't but think that the only purpose of all of this is to make people racist and homophobic again, to regress to the 50s, instead of keep teaching people that what's important is not judge by the color of the skin, but by the content of the character. Seeing today's world makes me sad, I want to be a kid again, turn on the tv, watch the fresh prince thinking will smith is the coolest person on earth, and not think about whether I look like him or not
Same as you, but probably around ten years younger. It’s incredible. When I was a child/teen I used to check if a movie is older than 5 years and didn’t watch it, if it was. Nowadays I can barely anything which is after ~2008. 80/90s and early 00 were the peak for movies and cinema. Everything changes to the worse, even the way movies are produced nowadays. I don’t know why, but this trend is terrible and I don’t see us (Europe or the US) having a bright future. We focus on the wrong things and are fighting the wrong wars. One day it’ll be too late to wake up.
I totally get you. I´m german born in the 80´s. Who thought that the decades of history lessons we had to go through making us feel guilty for being Naz*s, actually shielded us from this racebating slavediscussion the US has going on in the last decade?
If the fresh prince was on, it was always an instant change the channel, a classic, and they tackled serious issues when it comes to race and everything but it wasn’t the entire focus of the show, it wasn’t contrived the way it is these days, actors like will smith, Denzel Washington, Morgan freeman, Eddie Murphy, Martin Lawrence Jamie foxx and more, weren’t you’re favorite actor because they were black, it’s because they were some of the best at what they do, entertainment has gone backwards in terms of progress but I’m not so pessimistic when it comes to society as a whole, because the people doing this are in creative fields and entertainment of some form, this is the product of college graduates with liberal arts degrees who are out of touch, I work a blue collar job and live in an area with people of every background, and the average person isn’t like the people pushing this, in fact, black and Latino guys I know are just as tired of this nonsense as anyone else, but for some reason the executives that work at the corporations who approve this stuff haven’t woken up to the fact that all these industries pushing these agendas are losing money because the audience who agrees with them is so much smaller than they think it is, it’s only a matter of time until they lose enough money where they have to course correct and it should’ve already happened, so I’d say yea this sucks we have so little great entertainment from traditional sources, at least alternative sources like TH-cam and other have made up for it
One of my favorite quotes from Freeman was in that 60 minutes interview he did. WALLACE: How are we going to get rid of racism until …? FREEMAN: Stop talking about it. I’m going to stop calling you a white man. And I’m going to ask you to stop calling me a black man. I know you as Mike Wallace. You know me as Morgan Freeman. You’re not going to say, “I know this white guy named Mike Wallace.” Hear what I’m saying?
A: Hey, what is your new movie about? B: Sorting the mail A: Really, that doesn't seem exciting. B: No, no... It's black women sorting the mail A: Oh! Well, that totally changes everything.
Mhmmm, in 1940's, black men and women had none of the rights white people had. Oh I'm sure they faced death threats just for showing up and doing the job. Maybe read about the battle in a Texas town between black soldiers and a racist commander and police force.
@@Virsery Yes but the US was still segregated back then (sadly I should add, but facts are facts). The problem is how the lines were written and delivered was applying our modern lens to the people back then and shows they're playing up the race issue.
My great grandma was one of the first female combat nurses in the pacific in ww2, there is even a book about her. That would be a much better story than mail deliverers
This is the fucking problem , 🙄 it's like if black people make a movie are in a game music get played anything that is held to some high regards, its dei and or we did earn its forced but anybody else anything else anything , they earned they was the best for the role, its history doesn't matter
Oh, Netflix, and you're "history" telling. Let's see what else Netflix had: - A movie where Einstein had two female bodyguards. - A series where no matter what anybody tells you, Cleopatra is black. Source: Someone's Grandma. - A movie about prosecutors that went after the pharmacies but were race-swapped for one black woman and then called a true story. - A movie where Queen Charlotte was completely race-swapped into a black woman. - And now, a boring movie about a female postal battalion sorting mail..... Give Netflix plenty of time, and they'll write all your history textbooks. Wait until you see what the Vikings are now....
They called it based on a true story, but quite a bit of the "history" from film is fictionalized in order to push a narrative. Very similar to The Woman King.
Exactly, How much of what they said was true? Did the members of the 6 triple 8 see their job as heroic or did they see it as something that needed to be done? How much of what the characters say is creative liberties taken by the director? I have a feeling that the description of the movie given in marketing isn't what the people in the squad would also say. I don't think world war veterans would call themselves heroic and would instead say what i said "it needed to be done".
The main problem, Asmon, is that this is a boring documentary about the mail in WWII that has been fluffed into a HER-O's story of female empowerment and over coming racism.
@YamiV4 Kinda hard to consider him a grifter when reviewing and critiquing the "mid, boring, shows" and movies that modern Hollywood pushes out like a turd represents about 75% of his content. It's his entire shtick...so it's either somewhat genuine or he's been grifting for over half a decade 😂
@YamiV4 You don't even know what grift means if you call it a grift in any way lmao, just a modern buzzword people like to use when they have no clue what it means nor in what context to use it.
@@zeked4200 Or maybe Hollywood and the entertainment industry as a whole has produced so much of this mid-tier stuff the past decade that thats the majority of what you have to work with as a reviewer.
The drinker never called this story fake, he just made fun of how it is portrayed in the marketing like an epic war movie. If this was part of a documentary series about small, lesser known stories from the war, then that would be one thing. Instead we get rousing speeches like the women are about to charge into battle. Imagine if they made a movie about the two ships in the navy that had the sole task of making ice cream. It would be silly if the captain got on the PA system to give a speech to epic music about the importance of chocolate ice cream and milk shakes.
Many of these smaller stories have been told, often for their drama angle but they tend to be lower budget affairs as befits their audience reach. This seems way overblown but I guess Netflix can spend their money how they wish. I am concerned that they will attempt to smear a thick layer of racism over the British though, despite the US itself having PSAs about how discrimination against black soldiers was much lesser in the UK and there being several stories of the Brits not tolerating some of the behavior the US brought over wrt race. Maybe I'll be surprised but I don't think we're far enough beyond Nov 5th for that narrative to be dying off from projects making it to the screen right now.
I think you have something there. I would love to see a series of short films about lesser known units from the war. There are *A LOT* of stories like this that are worth telling.
@@svkh207 yeah, the fact that America was still segregated and GB was not during WW2 actually caused some interesting interactions and tensions between the different militaries and locals when there was a significant US military presence in GB. more than a few brawls and fights broke out over weird things like British letting anyone into the local pubs and stuff. anyone could use the bathrooms and facilities. things like that caused misunderstandings and clashes of culture.
Hollywood made it's own bed. In the 1990's we weren't inundated with "The Message" from all forms of entertainment. This movie wouldn't have received the reaction it's getting today back in 1996. Now even a true story comes across like a meme or parody.
I'm more on the side of Critical Drinker on this one. He's not wrong about saying there were more heroic and dangerous untold stories they could've covered from WW2. But since they were not black women, Netflix decided to go with this one instead.
The examples he gave have more or less already been in the media of some description. Red Tails being the main one of the African Americans escorting the bombers.
he ain't American, his opinion means shit to me. he clearly didn't bother seeing the movie otherwise he would understand the movie is about the struggle of how the battalion full of black woman who wanted to go to war, were denied by their superiors because they saw them as incapable. when they finally got their orders, they thought they were going to war, but instead got bamboozle and gave them am order to sort mail ... that's how pity the white generals were.
Funny how all women are wearing perfect makeup and hair in every single scene - while also being part of a massive war effort. Feels very realistic to me.
Bro…one minute you people go “why is she ugly? this is woke!” and then the moment it fits your narrative you go “wow they all look attractive, super unrealistic…”
@jupitergaming5146 it's similar to how for example rings of power looks overly fake with all the clean costumes etc(beyond the usual problems with the show). I'm a fan of more realism.
The women giving the motivating and heroic speech about sorting the mail. Reminds me of one of my managers at Best Buy. Also, people aren't calling it fake, we are asking why the heck is this even a movie.
To that one chatter who asked, “Why do you need danger to be a hero?” Because there’s no courage or bravery in your actions if you’re not risking anything. Being uncomfortable and overworked is not equal to being pinned down in the trenches or evading capture behind enemy lines.
Chatter that thinks it’s “brave” to show up work to deliver letters while others are risking their heads getting blown off is probably some soft Gen Z that thinks an 8 hour shift at Starbucks is hard work
So a surgeon who saves someone's life when it seemed impossible isn't a "hero" in your mind? Your example assumes heroism is only possible when the individual's life is in peril, not others.
I'd love to see a "Tokyo Rose"' story told in a movie or show, i.e. Toguri D'Aquino. Wendigoon has a great video on her. She was a Japanese-American who was a US citizen who got stuck in Japan at the time the war started. She ended up doing broadcasts, with the Japanese wanting her to broadcast Axis propaganda, but since the officials over her didn't speak English, she was broadcasting whatever she wanted to say and doing what she could to boost the morale of Allied troops. Then when she finally came back to the States she was (wrongfully) accused of treason, and it took years and years to finally uncover the truth of the situation.
They could've done the nurses who had to deal with gruesome injuries and death on a daily basis, but I guess they weren't diverse enough so they chose people in a cushy office job in England. They could've also done the MAIL CARRIERS responsible for delivering the mails in the battlefield, but again not diverse enough for Netflix
@@bloomingblossom5269florence is probably off limits, considering some of her quotes about women being unfaithful while the men were gone, and some other stuff. She was pretty based, even said she lost faith that womwn could truly love XD.
@@Khazorhothto be fair the amount of guys i know whom are/were in the military and got cheated on while away is literally 100%. The only ones who didnt were the single ones.
It's unfortunately not even an authentic representation. They possibly took someone who historically was against racism and turned him into the evil white racist guy to have an enemy in the show. Mind you, that's from what I've heard. I have no intention of wasting my time watching this.
As a german: Grandma told me about her seeing the firt time black armymen, giving chocolate to her and other kids. grandma never told me about black woman saving her & europe from the nazis. I think changing the narrative of ww2 in a way Netflix did, is a really bad thing.
yeah, my grandma (a kid back then) used to think that chocolate makes your skin black, she just didnt know chocolate (or people with dark skin for that matter)
Female war movie plot (not satire): "Faced with discrimination and a country devastated by war, they managed to sort more than 17 million pieces of mail"
They could have made a video about the Tuskegee airmen a group of colored men who never lost an ally bomber during their escort missions. Instead it’s about sorting mail stateside 😂 the jokes write themselves
@@Astelch Especially since the last movie the Airmen got was that piece of garbage Red Tails. They can't get a quality movie first considering how many men they protected on those bomb runs?
You know what's sad is how watered down the plot is. Most folks don't understand what goes into making a military actually work, because logistics are admittedly a boring subject even to Military historians. Netflix squandered a golden opportunity to show that here but nope. Instead of a group of soldiers working to solve a difficult mission it was a white people bad movie. I watched it and my God I'm sick of the historical revision.
That's the problem. This isn't an "authentic recreation of something that actually happened". You think someone was like 'OMG LETS DO A MOVIE ABOUT POSTAL WORKERS DELIVERING LETTERS!' and everyone cheered and was like omg that sounds like an amazing movie idea full of action! No, it's because they were black. Don't poo in my shoe and tell me it's chocolate cake.
I think the film Glory about the all-volunteer black regiment of the 54th Massachusetts Infantry Regiment during the Civil War was worthy of being made. But this? No!
What's hilarious is that all the 'it didn't happen this way' complainers: How many americans fought and died on D day and Normandy? Go look it up, then ask yourself how many 'Merica' movies have you guys as the heroes there? And you've been ok with THOSE, but not this one? War machine / hollywood propoganda machine is gonnna do what they do. Good luck folks, they're trying to tear your country apart, if they haven't already.
No. It would be about two secretly gay recruits falling in love, one being a minor who lied about his age to serve... and to love. The other, a colored shoeshine who was wrongfully accused of the assault of a white woman who chose the military instead of prison. DDay just kinda happens.
I’m not sure that’s even the target audience. I don’t actually know who is. I don’t know many black women who care about WWII shows. In fact, I don’t know a single person of any race or gender that thinks this would be a compelling story.
Mee too and I am Latino.. its tiresome and disingenuous.. suddenly everyone is black and everything important in history was done by them and all that matters is their skin color... disregarding reality and history.. its fetishism inserted in American movies for no reason..
5:40 - Sabaton has a song about them, "Night Witches", and their website has the historical facts for every song they've made, highly recommend checking them out
If it was a bunch of Karen’s and Betsy’s sorting mail, it wouldn’t be a series, and THATS the problem. ‘Not being white’ isn’t synonymous with ‘deserving of praise’
They have to blackwash history however they can so the globalist myth of 'equality' seems real, despite 75%+ of the planets populants and ancestors being tribes people until 150 years ago and not part of any civilisations that created the modern 1st world.
Yes, this is the same company that made a docu-series declaring that Cleopatra was not only black but a girl boss. It was practically an international incident as Egypt was having none of it.
Netflix adaption of 9/11 would be that the hero of the film was a black woman who pulled a Brian Griffen and stopped 9/11 from even happening in the first place.
The issue isn't whether this was fake or not. It's the idea that they're overlooking millions of other people with more interesting stories, just to focus on the one black women battalion--like how they chose Yasuke to be the face of Assassin's Creed Japan. And let's not get this confused, this isn't just a harmless documentary. It's propaganda. A snippet of it was shown at 3:28. The "white man bad, black woman good" type deal we've seen for years.
@@gabrielleander1926 Well he isnt wrong about this film being a propaganda to prop up black woman while demeaning every other parts of the military. It's a film trying to disguise itself as a documentary, but it isnt a documentary. This film could have a complete serious documentary, not a film full of weird out of place satire.
What sucks is that in some ways this was detrimental for the moral of the soldiers during the war because a lot of women back home were sending "Dear John" letters to the men fighting. Long story short, It was so bad that General Patton requested that the women who sent the letters be charged with treason lol.
But that makes it even more worthy as series material, because it means it isn't about the men receiving mail from their loved ones to boost their morale, it's about the women getting to tell the men, that it's over. So much empowerment!
@Remi617 "dear John" letters, refers to letters that would be sent to soldiers overseas by women back home, effectively telling them it's over. Usually because they met someone else. The old days equivalent of a breakup by text.
That be interesting if that was also part of the series, where the they work endlessly to get the letter to a soldier and it turn out it was their wife or girlfriends leaving them, then the soldiers being demoralized. Then cut to Patton complaining about all the breakup letter, all the while the post women are happy thinking they are helping the soldiers.
Kinda odd that Asmon's take away from Deinker's video is a criticism Drinker not only didn't make (that people will think real events fake), but explicitly defuses. Drinker doesn't claim these events didnt happen, he points out the movie is passing over so many great heroes of WWII to glamorize... Postal workers.
I don't think his comments were in response to CD's video specifically, rather he seemed to be talking about the initial social media reaction to this. After all, it isn't like CD was saying this wasn't a real thing that happened lol. His content could benefit from a little more thought clarity though for sure.
Tyler Perry spearheaded this movie. This is a story he wanted to tell. Ofcourse there are many war stories that haven't been told. However they need a millionaire or a company willing to produce it. I agree with asmon. There's nothing objectively bad about this movie, maybe the quips are corny, but it's a real story based on real people. Are we so mad that we can't even allow others to tell their story??
I don't think anyone is denying that some black women sorted some mail 6 months before the war ended, the question is why should we be interested in that.
They would’ve done better if this was about all the women that stayed behind and took over the factory jobs to make the ammo and the machines for the men as they went to war that would’ve been way better show to watch
They could also done better by making "The Six Triple Eight" as a complete serious documentary film or put it together with the factory jobs to make it more interesting. However, this film screams SO FAKE, but it is a true story because of all the satire they put in the film. It's like a parody. Netflix dont know how to read the room.
The problem with Asmon's take here is that he thinks this movie is being targeted because of fatigue generated by inorganic BS, when in fact this movie is more inorganic BS.
His point is just that it's a real story this time. Motivations to make it aside because that's clear to everyone, there is intolerance because of fatigue, especially like he mentioned people thinking it's fake.
Who cares if it's a real story. Bill from down the road stacks shelves at the grocery store. Bill doesn't deserve a Netflix series about his job. His job sucks. Just like the women sorting mail.
@@HULK-HOGAN1maybe because I’m in the military I have a different look on it. But I have to say we all respect each others jobs no matter how different, yeah we joke about it occasionally but at the end of the day we’re all on the same team willing to do whatever whenever the time comes. Idk man something about hearing a civilian say someone’s job in the army is crap is insane and bothered me. Enjoy your Christmas dude.
@@HULK-HOGAN1 Two things. First, the point of the video is not that their job sucks or doesn't "deserve" a series (what nonsense are you on about), only that there would be more interesting participations in war to cover, questioning the marketing as heroes. Second, you don't get to tell them "stop race swapping and make something about a black character to begin with", while also saying "who cares if it's a real story" when they do just that. Prime example of the fatigue Asmongold is talking about.
@@khad9675 That's an emotional response. I'm saying low stakes jobs which are menial in contrast with majority of regular jobs, let alone dying on the battlefield do not deserve the spotlight like a TV show. Merry Christmas to you
At 3:58 I just realized that Naughty Dog clip has the woman shaving her head but holding the clippers wrong. She's got no guard on it, which is fine, but in that case, the flat of the clipper should be against the skin. Otherwise she'll be dragging the teeth across her skin and that will definitely leave marks! Those things are sharp!
"AN IMPOSSIBLE TASK" Lmao... 'Meh... get the blacks to do it, will keep them busy while the more comptent folk get to the real work.' That was literally the thought process behind this at the time.
It's the constant search for any diverse (black) character in History to make a big deal about, look at Yasuke, look at the BBC UK WW2 drama told through the eyes of a kid, they cast a black kid, look at every advert in America and the UK now includes a bi-racial couple or just a straight up black couple, UK C5 made a Documentary about the Ann Boleyn, they cast a black actress to play her, the live adaption of How to train your Dragon race swapped the female to a black actress, the live adaptation of the Japanese Manga ‘Kakegurui - Compulsive Gambler’ cast 2 black actors, it just get's ridiculous at some point!
It's not that it's fake, it's that it is completely forced. Checking boxes for content. Hollywood nonsense and dramatic music added to the most banal and bureaucratic aspects of routine military life.
@ we have ww2 movies about every single subject 1000+ why is focusing on an actual event then so wrong we have 1000+ movies with white people is one movie about the contributions of the black community that Wierd it needs hate? I don’t get that you all don’t have to go watch, but it doesn’t change the fact that these woman existed, enlisted during war and where thus send to the postal office but remember this is 1940 this isn’t now postal was super important in those eras especially for the war effort so it a kinda sad since I thought many Americans would have seen a story about these woman as a story about veterans since they are veterans
10:30 In 1996 this would've been a made for TV movie on TNT or TBS that you might have watched by accident because it aired after the toon block was over.
Not even. There’s a reason why 90s shows are so popular. Go watch any of them now. They were so much better with jokes and/or plots that would NEVER be allowed today.
@@limitedhangoutlive 100% agree with you. The 90's contained some of the best shows and movies produced and were are overall better. You have gems after that, but the quality of writing and storytelling just started to overall tank from the 2000's and on.
@@Insanecorn Lifetime had a movie with a woman in a wheelchair being chased by a killer who was also in a wheelchair and she managed to survive because she held onto a railing longer than the guy when shimmying across a ledge.
I want a movie about the Japanese guy who stayed alone on his island in the Pacific still fighting WWII until the 70s when they finally convinced him the war was over. That man is a ridiculously amazing hero who just happened to be on the losing side.
Hiroo Onoda. He actually had 3 other guys with him, 1 who surrendered, and 2 who died. It was just him, until they called up his old commander to force him to surrender.
Huge L for Asmongold here. People aren't calling the history fake, they are questioning why you need to make a movie about people sorting the mail. The movie even advertises race baiting in the trailer. Don't be disingenuous.
They distributed mail from warehouses to district command centres...that's it. This movie is going to make it seem like they're delivering letters in the trenches.
The women faced segregation and sexism within the military and worked in poor conditions but they got the job done. 17 million mail pieces were delivered in 90 days but were given six months.
No one thinks its fake, Asmon. Its just a total netflix move to make a whole movie about something barely worth a 10 min youtube doc. We all know why they did it, and thats why people hate it already.
No they think it's a waste of money because it's a story about sorting mail 4 months before the end of WW2. If they were white this story would never have gotten greenlit. Nobody had a problem with Red Tails as a concept (the movie itself sucks but that's because of writing and direction not the Tuskegee Airmen). Honestly, this is just an example of black fragility, demanding to be celebrated and called heroes for sorting mail at the ass end of a war.
That's not true. It's kind of disrespectful to people who actually risked their lives. Those who fought and died. As the video explains there were far more heroic diversity groups in WW2 which would be far more compelling to portray with minimal truth stretching.
Why? can't tell a story about black women? Is not like they change the historical event from white women to black women, they were black women doing that jobs.
Jarhead, The Deer Hunter, The Imitation Game, and MASH all also have pretty boring premises too, yet those are all popular and well received war movies/shows. You can describe almost every WW2 movie about the fighting as “half the movie is just the characters in boot camp before actually going to war”, the entire first episode of Band of Brothers is just them at boot camp. I can keep going with examples. Premise means almost nothing in a story, you can tell a good story with good characters with basically any premise. As I’ve already pointed out, WW2 has a ton of examples of good enjoyable well received movies/shows that don’t have particularly exciting premises.
That’s literally not true actually, it was a foreign French film that they got the rights to show it internationally, although I think was Netflix that changed the name and made that infamous poster.
@@darthdragonborn1552 yep but Netflix funded the production company in France. That movie would not have been made without there help. Amazing how that PR disaster for them gets swept under the rug.
@@TheMLGSnubs No, it can be both. It _was_ a PR disaster, because there was a backlash against it. _Then_ it was swept under the rug, by the effective PR response by the media.
@@TheMLGSnubs While it was top of mind people were revolted and then they forgot. For a while it was a disaster then people moved on. They even were bringing it up in Congress but Netflix sure isn’t going to bring it up anymore and voila swept under the rug, memory holed whatever you would like to call it.
Honestly this is an insult to the actual women who did this job, it was important as it helped the families and the soldiers stay in touch better and it’s obvious that instead of showing how their actions brought hope to people, they are just using it for ‘look everyone strong, independent, diverse women!’. Come off it
No it’s “you know what this historical film about black Americans in WW2 needs? A musical sound track full of modern hip hop music from artists such as Megan Thee Stallion”
If this is going to be like "A League of Their Own", I wouldn't mind at all. However, from the trailer alone, you can tell there's going to be a lot of moments where they'll undervalue the struggles of people who fought in the trenches just because they're not part of Hollywood's "diversity" quota.
I liked the subtle nod in A League of Their Own when the black lady throws the foul ball expertly back into the playing field and then gives a nod. That fit perfectly in the film and wasn’t in your face about the prejudices
I have to strongly disagree. You don't have to be on the front lines to be a hero. I think they are heros. You obviously don't understand how valuable the mail was back then for soldiers and their families. It was a serious problem, and for many soldiers, the only thing that kept them going. Thousands upon thousands of wives, mothers and children had no way of knowing if their men were alive or not and counted on letters sent to them. And vice versa, it helped with moral for soldiers when mail was sent back to them to hear from their family. By all means, these women were heros who helped the women and children of the soldiers
@@JPMonster13 I have a family member that works for the post office. Its a good job. During covid I kept telling them how they were front line soldiers and deserve a medal.
@@pepperdeez using your logic, i would be considered a hero for my work in quality assurance in aviation by making sure the parts meet the blueprints so the pilots can feel better about flying the planes. Sorry, but they aren't heroes.
The fact WW2 ended nearly 80 years ago and not once has this particular ‘battalion’ featured in a show or film, tells me everything I need to know. It’s not a compelling story, it’s because they are ‘diverse’.
That's exactly what I was thinking! The story itself isn't the problem, it's the tone. This might have even made a fun TV show. You have a large cast in one location. You could have told stories about the lives of the womaen there. Something with the tone of M.A.S.H. A neat gimmick could have been the audience gets to hear the letters contents, learn about the people sending them, and see the military man react to them. They could even be recurring soldiers as they get letters over and over. Maybe less a story about the people delivering the letters, but the letters themselves.
There's the story of a female opera singer, which was also a fencer with all of the skills of Zorro and totally bisexual, to the point that she could at one moment put some holes on a man with a sword to defend the honor of a woman she has kissed in a ball, and then bed him almost inmediately afterwards. The king in the story is an interpretative dancer and the king's brother is a crossdresser and gay, maybe even trans. In some part of the story she also burns a convent to rescue a nun, and the church tries to burn her at the stake. The story is so over the top it would be seen as the ultimate herald of THE MESSAGE and practically a meme on our cynical standards of the post woke era. But it existed, search it yourself. Search for la Maupin, and pray Netflix or Amazon doesn't find it yet.
12:04 that is exactly the problem. Once it flops we're all gonna be called "racist" while it's not about race it's purely about "why do I want to watch a movie about postal workers? I don't"
4:22 Glory was life changing for me! I always loved history and learning about things not always in history books but I saw Glory at 7 years old and became obsessed with early America
I dunno how to describe this trailer, but i am gonna try. It feels like a complete fake film full of satire, but it is a TRUE STORY. However, the whole premise of the story makes it feel that they are demeaning the every other parts of the military to prop this Battalion up as more important. This film should have been made as a complete serious documentary film, not some humor or unserious film. Netflix just can't read the room.
@ oh yes because I totally needed to be there to do my own fkn research to find out how obviously dramatized the story is. You didn’t get the burn you think you did my friend. How about instead of taking the establishment at their word you do a little research for yourself
I just saw the movie and it was good. As someone who has received letters while deployed, they are a huge morale booster. My experience was very different than my grandfather’s. He and his friends sacrificed for a country that during his time (in 1943) did not provide the same rights, benefits or privileges while serving. I have worked with and for prejudice and racist people and it was demoralizing. Thankfully most of the free world has gotten its stuff together. So the movie is good to me because it highlights a war within that most today have no clue how to endure. I have understanding of how my ancestors were treated by their own countrymen (and military leaders). I’m not angry or woke or whatever bull the internet is spewing. I’m happy we are better today. Enjoying the stories of all our past and what was overcome to get here. These ladies don’t need to be your hero nor did they ask to be. Just have the basic understanding that someone somewhere was thankful for their service. Some might have been in your family history. Now go touch grass, mud, and rock and stop fearing yourselves into a divided country again. Merry Christmas and thank the Lord Jesus for another day. (Your lord may vary but have thanks regardless.)
I agree with this. It wasn't a bad movie, and it was incredibly important not only for the troops but their families back home. Many of these guys lefts their sweethearts thinking they would go off to fight in some cowboy film and be heroes, only to be met with an unimaginable nightmare. A letter from family/girlfriend probably saved a lot of them. The movie was definitely "based" on a true story tho. I do appreciate the WW2 selection on Netflix tho, they have the best docs
@ Chris. read the last three sentences again. You don’t have to believe what anybody says on the internet. Just do us all a favor. When you find out the truth, have enough dignity to admit you were wrong. Have a happy new year.
No he isn't, he was among the last people to inform his audience why things were moving in the direction they are, or about the ESG system in general. You learn nothing watching him, he's just rage bait.
@@stinkfinga4918not even true at all. I’ll give you that some of his stuff is sure. But he is fair when it’s good. Take Baby Reindeer for example. That story is not for right wing people at all. But he gave it high praise because it’s a great story told well. No way you’re getting a right winger to watch that show. If it’s good he’s more than fair even if it is diverse and somewhat “woke”.
@@keithlolIt will dude. All they have to do is make it believable without pandering to an ideology or gender. Make the movie fair and authentic, and it will sell
Did you see the comedy skit by Bill Burr, when he comments on this exact type of thing, with the movie Pride, about Black swimmers? It was hysterical, and this reminded me of it. He basically says we are digging at the bottom of the barrel to make these movies, and lo and behold we found another on down there, mail delivery.
5:43 they didn't give them parachutes because they believed they would bail out the first chance they had and not fight, not because the planes were overloaded. If the plane was overloaded it wouldn't fly. A parachute does not equate to the weight of the smallest of bombs if that is what was inferred here
No, it was a wooden plane (no radar detection) with weak engine (so it wouldn't make noise) and they were not only women but skinny women because evey kilo of weight was important. They bombed important locations at night while being as stealthy as possible hence "Night Witches".
ancient very slow bi planes, that were manufactured cheaply out of plywood with open cockpits (In eastern Europe and often during the winter), sometimes 12 or more sorties a night, with no radar, no radios, no parachutes, and no defensive capabilities whatsoever and still managed to cause havoc on German positions, they would fly close, then cut their engines, glide over the target drop their bombs, restart their engines and get out of there, get back to their base, turn round refuel and do it again. Weight was hugely important but also the Russian High command believed that they were an unnecessary safety net thinking that the planes could simply glide to earth if hit - what actually happened was they normally went down (when they went down at all) in flames due to anti aircraft fire or German fighters, killing both pilot and navigator (who was also the co pilot - these were training planes not military bombers.
This plus the fact most die in dog fights irrelevant of parachutes so it was an unnecessary expenditure, it'd be like putting seat belts on a teleporter tht reorganised ur matter , it won't save anyone
100 percent... I love the history channel ww2 content and if it had a section about this it would be very interesting as I had no idea about these women or their mission. Mail and care packages is everything to a soldier but a whole movie about it is wild af lol.
@AppalachianMountaineer1863 Yeah no 💩! Well... (sorry had to 😜) for real covering real second line, logistics and maintenance jobs would be way more interesting. I'd bet there are plenty amazing people that kept stuff going that shouldn't have and therefore saved others
The trailer is pure insanity:
“Unlike some other folks here, we have the most to prove” as it cuts to a male soldier running for his life while a plane crashes into a bunch other soldiers.
Bruh...
Nothing more heroic than being black while working for the USPS. 🤣
Naw bro. I have respect for anyone who volunteers for military service even those who don’t fight on the front lines. You also have to remember at this time, women couldn’t serve on the front lines even if they wanted to. You know why. Uh literal sexism. I was in the army in Kuwait and Iraq and we lost 3 female airmen in support roles whose truck hit an IED killing them instantly.
Something like 80% of the military is support roles.
@@coldchillin8382 I think you realize that sorting mail is a little different than being in an active combat zone. There are levels to this thing. It can't all be heroic or else none of it is. Noble is probably a better word to use in this situation.
So freaking disrespectful, as if those other young soldiers are just getting killed just for the thrill of it and to make a name for themselves.
It's not sexism, there are deep biological reasons both for why women would avoid war and why society would be uneasy with allowing it
"Sir, sir, there was a guy in 1922 who worked at a grocery stall in New York"
"Okay, and?"
"Sir... He was black!"
"Mother of god... Commission a series, pre-approve for season 2".
😆 this is South Park quality humor!
>Race swap white characters "What the heck! Make your own shit!!!"
>Make your own shit "Checking off boxes!!"
@@davidlauderdale7147 There are black soldiers serving. Maybe if Netflix did a production as accurate as possible, it would have slapped. Unfortunately, Netflix wants to pretend they're such forward thinkers.
3 seasons minimum, those shelves won't stock themselves.
Improve your grammar.
There's quite a few stories from WWII involving some incredible women... But they're not "Diverse" enough.
if they did a movie about any of those women people would still be whining. some women can shoot, the Soviet female sniper movie might have been cool
And watch, if you say this story is boring, you'll get the istaphobe treatment. Thank you for your service ladies, but your story and service is not worth my attention on a paid subscription service.
Lmao I don’t actually think ppl care about race percentages being correct they just want something to complain about. Just like when production companies intentionally hire some white actor to play an obviously non white character. It happens all the time in Hollywood but for some reason it rubs ppl the wrong way when it’s ppl that don’t look like them hmmmm. Either way if ppl want accuracy they need to advocate for that everywhere not just when it suits. WWII was lit
Why do ppl complain about “wokeness” but not white washing. Hollywood is almost never accurate but for some reason it’s a problem now hmm..
WWII was lit, it sucks when either brain dead side washes it with their filth views and culture. Just make it accurate, and when it’s not complain about it equally, or your point is ehhh
remember Battlefield V skiing mission in Norway?
I'm european, born in the early 80s, grew up watching the fresh prince of bel air dubbed into my language, family matters, also dubbed, and not once thought anything bad about it, in fact, I loved those shows and was always looking forward to watching the next episode. I remember seeing strong female characters in movies such as alien and terminator 2 as well. Not just that, but in lethal weapon mel gibson is the nut case detective that destroys everything while danny glover was the responsible family man that tried to get some sense into mel gibson's head. Countless examples, from the boss of john travolta in face off being a black woman, to morgan freeman being the calm smart detective in seven, in contraposition of brad pitt's erratic behaviour. All of those movies/tv shows were from the 90s or early 2000s. Even clint eastwood made unforgiven, a western featuring a black guy (morgan freeman again) as his best friend. We were on the right path, we were being taught that race wasn't something we should focus on. We adored black actors and characters, such as wesley snipes' blade. Now that I'm older I'm shocked that the ONLY thing we can talk about is race, and that they've undone all the work. Even movies like philadelphia were teaching us about not discriminating homosexuals. WE WERE ON THE RIGHT PATH! I can't but think that the only purpose of all of this is to make people racist and homophobic again, to regress to the 50s, instead of keep teaching people that what's important is not judge by the color of the skin, but by the content of the character. Seeing today's world makes me sad, I want to be a kid again, turn on the tv, watch the fresh prince thinking will smith is the coolest person on earth, and not think about whether I look like him or not
Same as you, but probably around ten years younger. It’s incredible. When I was a child/teen I used to check if a movie is older than 5 years and didn’t watch it, if it was. Nowadays I can barely anything which is after ~2008. 80/90s and early 00 were the peak for movies and cinema. Everything changes to the worse, even the way movies are produced nowadays. I don’t know why, but this trend is terrible and I don’t see us (Europe or the US) having a bright future.
We focus on the wrong things and are fighting the wrong wars. One day it’ll be too late to wake up.
I totally get you. I´m german born in the 80´s. Who thought that the decades of history lessons we had to go through making us feel guilty for being Naz*s, actually shielded us from this racebating slavediscussion the US has going on in the last decade?
If the fresh prince was on, it was always an instant change the channel, a classic, and they tackled serious issues when it comes to race and everything but it wasn’t the entire focus of the show, it wasn’t contrived the way it is these days, actors like will smith, Denzel Washington, Morgan freeman, Eddie Murphy, Martin Lawrence Jamie foxx and more, weren’t you’re favorite actor because they were black, it’s because they were some of the best at what they do, entertainment has gone backwards in terms of progress but I’m not so pessimistic when it comes to society as a whole, because the people doing this are in creative fields and entertainment of some form, this is the product of college graduates with liberal arts degrees who are out of touch, I work a blue collar job and live in an area with people of every background, and the average person isn’t like the people pushing this, in fact, black and Latino guys I know are just as tired of this nonsense as anyone else, but for some reason the executives that work at the corporations who approve this stuff haven’t woken up to the fact that all these industries pushing these agendas are losing money because the audience who agrees with them is so much smaller than they think it is, it’s only a matter of time until they lose enough money where they have to course correct and it should’ve already happened, so I’d say yea this sucks we have so little great entertainment from traditional sources, at least alternative sources like TH-cam and other have made up for it
One of my favorite quotes from Freeman was in that 60 minutes interview he did.
WALLACE: How are we going to get rid of racism until …?
FREEMAN: Stop talking about it. I’m going to stop calling you a white man. And I’m going to ask you to stop calling me a black man. I know you as Mike Wallace. You know me as Morgan Freeman. You’re not going to say, “I know this white guy named Mike Wallace.” Hear what I’m saying?
We gen-Xers solved racism and sexism thirty years ago.
A: Hey, what is your new movie about?
B: Sorting the mail
A: Really, that doesn't seem exciting.
B: No, no... It's black women sorting the mail
A: Oh! Well, that totally changes everything.
So many articles are gonna be about racist bigots, meanwhile its just the average person, not giving a fuck about mail delivery turning into a show
@@powrsh119 they gon be like "the low viewership is a sign of the world being racist"
Seems about what certain people would say to justify it s gonna be trash@@cmdniels
We wuz kangz
They totally won this war for the US by *checks notes* sorting mail??
The fact they put the "You mean the white women core?" lines in the promo means that's what is most important to them.
All women helped during WW2 not just black women
Mhmmm, in 1940's, black men and women had none of the rights white people had. Oh I'm sure they faced death threats just for showing up and doing the job. Maybe read about the battle in a Texas town between black soldiers and a racist commander and police force.
@@Virsery Yes but the US was still segregated back then (sadly I should add, but facts are facts). The problem is how the lines were written and delivered was applying our modern lens to the people back then and shows they're playing up the race issue.
@@Virsery Not all women. 80-90% stayed at home and or ran to other countries for safety.
@@extrage3061 Damn that’s crazy, I thought women worked at factories to build tanks and jeeps but I guess that was propaganda crazy world we live in.
As the Critical Drinker put it, "There are more diverse heroic people who fought in WW2 who didn't work at a government building in London."
But they want to tell a movie about the mail ladies. What’s the issue?
Oh I get it. It’s the word “heroic.”
In Feb of ‘45 from what I heard. Not exactly dangerous by then.
@@princememphis7726No issue, other than them blaming the audience for being racist when it eventually flops.
a.k.a. bad propaganda.
My great grandma was one of the first female combat nurses in the pacific in ww2, there is even a book about her. That would be a much better story than mail deliverers
I'd watch that.
Netflix are not making that movie because those women were heroes, Netflix are making it because those women were black. People can tell.
That's racist thing to say
@@tomondiek2839racist, but true
It’s not racist at all, it’s just true 😂
@@tomondiek2839 netflix are racist
This is the fucking problem , 🙄 it's like if black people make a movie are in a game music get played anything that is held to some high regards, its dei and or we did earn its forced but anybody else anything else anything , they earned they was the best for the role, its history doesn't matter
the woman who noticed the letters with matching names in Saving Private Ryan is a better story and that took all of 5 mins to tell
So is the mystery of Pepe Silvia in the Always Sunny mailroom episode
@@ArrowArchitect halfway to Siberia
even Bryan Cranston and Lincoln were the stars in that 5 min movie
@@ArrowArchitect “let’s talk about the mail. Can we talk about the mail? I’ve been dying to talk about the mail!” 😂
I mean.. that was a Spielberg special.. the guy was very blessed to pull so many good movies out of his hat
Oh, Netflix, and you're "history" telling. Let's see what else Netflix had:
- A movie where Einstein had two female bodyguards.
- A series where no matter what anybody tells you, Cleopatra is black. Source: Someone's Grandma.
- A movie about prosecutors that went after the pharmacies but were race-swapped for one black woman and then called a true story.
- A movie where Queen Charlotte was completely race-swapped into a black woman.
- And now, a boring movie about a female postal battalion sorting mail.....
Give Netflix plenty of time, and they'll write all your history textbooks. Wait until you see what the Vikings are now....
Don't forget black Achilles. Lol
If there is one thing you can saying about the Vikings, it’s that they knew how to dance and season their food.
Dreamworks is already making a live action version of how to train your dragon and the main female Viking is already race swapped for a black women.
“We black my boi”
Cleopatra wasn't white. So stop the bullshit.
They called it based on a true story, but quite a bit of the "history" from film is fictionalized in order to push a narrative. Very similar to The Woman King.
Braveheart has nothing to do with real history but everyone loves that movie.
@@KusanagiMotoko100 Yeah, because it's not designed a race grifting narrative.
Yeah . . It designed to be a culture grifting narrative. So much better
Exactly, How much of what they said was true? Did the members of the 6 triple 8 see their job as heroic or did they see it as something that needed to be done? How much of what the characters say is creative liberties taken by the director? I have a feeling that the description of the movie given in marketing isn't what the people in the squad would also say. I don't think world war veterans would call themselves heroic and would instead say what i said "it needed to be done".
@@biscuitkeyboard except celts loved the movie. Next snowflake please.
The main problem, Asmon, is that this is a boring documentary about the mail in WWII that has been fluffed into a HER-O's story of female empowerment and over coming racism.
Main problem is that Asmon doesn't care about youtube comments.
This is just a mid, boring, show. It wasn't worth making a video over it but I guess Critical Drinker gotta grift.
@YamiV4 Kinda hard to consider him a grifter when reviewing and critiquing the "mid, boring, shows" and movies that modern Hollywood pushes out like a turd represents about 75% of his content. It's his entire shtick...so it's either somewhat genuine or he's been grifting for over half a decade 😂
@YamiV4 You don't even know what grift means if you call it a grift in any way lmao, just a modern buzzword people like to use when they have no clue what it means nor in what context to use it.
@@zeked4200 Or maybe Hollywood and the entertainment industry as a whole has produced so much of this mid-tier stuff the past decade that thats the majority of what you have to work with as a reviewer.
The drinker never called this story fake, he just made fun of how it is portrayed in the marketing like an epic war movie. If this was part of a documentary series about small, lesser known stories from the war, then that would be one thing. Instead we get rousing speeches like the women are about to charge into battle. Imagine if they made a movie about the two ships in the navy that had the sole task of making ice cream. It would be silly if the captain got on the PA system to give a speech to epic music about the importance of chocolate ice cream and milk shakes.
Many of these smaller stories have been told, often for their drama angle but they tend to be lower budget affairs as befits their audience reach. This seems way overblown but I guess Netflix can spend their money how they wish. I am concerned that they will attempt to smear a thick layer of racism over the British though, despite the US itself having PSAs about how discrimination against black soldiers was much lesser in the UK and there being several stories of the Brits not tolerating some of the behavior the US brought over wrt race. Maybe I'll be surprised but I don't think we're far enough beyond Nov 5th for that narrative to be dying off from projects making it to the screen right now.
Hey, I'd definitely watch THAT movie.
As long as they really heavily played into the goofiness of making ice cream on navy ships.
I think you have something there. I would love to see a series of short films about lesser known units from the war. There are *A LOT* of stories like this that are worth telling.
UK doesn't have problems with racist like us in ww2
@@svkh207 yeah, the fact that America was still segregated and GB was not during WW2 actually caused some interesting interactions and tensions between the different militaries and locals when there was a significant US military presence in GB. more than a few brawls and fights broke out over weird things like British letting anyone into the local pubs and stuff. anyone could use the bathrooms and facilities. things like that caused misunderstandings and clashes of culture.
Regardless of it being a true story, this one was 100% chosen to push a certain modern narative.
THE MESSAGE.
Hollywood made it's own bed. In the 1990's we weren't inundated with "The Message" from all forms of entertainment. This movie wouldn't have received the reaction it's getting today back in 1996. Now even a true story comes across like a meme or parody.
@@CWhyNot75This movie would've been ignored back then, now it cannot be ignored.
I'm more on the side of Critical Drinker on this one. He's not wrong about saying there were more heroic and dangerous untold stories they could've covered from WW2. But since they were not black women, Netflix decided to go with this one instead.
The examples he gave have more or less already been in the media of some description.
Red Tails being the main one of the African Americans escorting the bombers.
he ain't American, his opinion means shit to me. he clearly didn't bother seeing the movie otherwise he would understand the movie is about the struggle of how the battalion full of black woman who wanted to go to war, were denied by their superiors because they saw them as incapable. when they finally got their orders, they thought they were going to war, but instead got bamboozle and gave them am order to sort mail ... that's how pity the white generals were.
@@scotttimbrell8632 can still make more of it
@@snuffeldjuret why? Because forced inclusion? We already have films about it, we don't need more.
@@scotttimbrell8632 you dont need any film
Funny how all women are wearing perfect makeup and hair in every single scene - while also being part of a massive war effort. Feels very realistic to me.
Yeah cause the didn’t have combs, brushes, and make up in ww2 London? You tried it
'Cause they were never in the actual war itself? They were just handing out mail.
Bro…one minute you people go “why is she ugly? this is woke!” and then the moment it fits your narrative you go “wow they all look attractive, super unrealistic…”
@jupitergaming5146 it's similar to how for example rings of power looks overly fake with all the clean costumes etc(beyond the usual problems with the show). I'm a fan of more realism.
@@jupitergaming5146 intentionally ugly vs the realness of war is a little different
The women giving the motivating and heroic speech about sorting the mail. Reminds me of one of my managers at Best Buy. Also, people aren't calling it fake, we are asking why the heck is this even a movie.
virtue signaling. "See we care about minorities!"
The fact that this is the best the can come up with representing women's contribution to the war, is a massive insult to all women.
Walmart Speech...
Is that not a parody? She gave that speech like she was General SS. Patton addressing his troops in a very real combat war. 🤡💀😂
Why shouldn't it be a movie?
To that one chatter who asked, “Why do you need danger to be a hero?”
Because there’s no courage or bravery in your actions if you’re not risking anything. Being uncomfortable and overworked is not equal to being pinned down in the trenches or evading capture behind enemy lines.
Chatter that thinks it’s “brave” to show up work to deliver letters while others are risking their heads getting blown off is probably some soft Gen Z that thinks an 8 hour shift at Starbucks is hard work
Lmao foreal
Danger is literally inseparable from heroism. One would have to be beyond braindead to ask that question
So a surgeon who saves someone's life when it seemed impossible isn't a "hero" in your mind? Your example assumes heroism is only possible when the individual's life is in peril, not others.
@@riboflavinfolate3964 Of course he's not a hero. Just like he's not a monster when his patient dies. Grow up.
I'd love to see a "Tokyo Rose"' story told in a movie or show, i.e. Toguri D'Aquino. Wendigoon has a great video on her. She was a Japanese-American who was a US citizen who got stuck in Japan at the time the war started. She ended up doing broadcasts, with the Japanese wanting her to broadcast Axis propaganda, but since the officials over her didn't speak English, she was broadcasting whatever she wanted to say and doing what she could to boost the morale of Allied troops. Then when she finally came back to the States she was (wrongfully) accused of treason, and it took years and years to finally uncover the truth of the situation.
They could've done the nurses who had to deal with gruesome injuries and death on a daily basis, but I guess they weren't diverse enough so they chose people in a cushy office job in England. They could've also done the MAIL CARRIERS responsible for delivering the mails in the battlefield, but again not diverse enough for Netflix
Could even made one about Florence Nightingale… _but no…_
It’s because nursing is considered a demeaning profession and too feminine for those Hollywood types
@@bloomingblossom5269florence is probably off limits, considering some of her quotes about women being unfaithful while the men were gone, and some other stuff. She was pretty based, even said she lost faith that womwn could truly love XD.
@@Khazorhothto be fair the amount of guys i know whom are/were in the military and got cheated on while away is literally 100%. The only ones who didnt were the single ones.
@@high633 Bro, the Dear John letters had such a risk of tearing down morale, they were banned from ever reaching the recipients.
It's unfortunately not even an authentic representation. They possibly took someone who historically was against racism and turned him into the evil white racist guy to have an enemy in the show. Mind you, that's from what I've heard. I have no intention of wasting my time watching this.
Now Netflix is gonna Netflix harder than any Netflix movie has ever Netflixed before.
*The message* must continue
And you still live in your mom's basement Go outside bro
They are truly more Netflixer than anything else 😂
It did a dozen times already. The Top 50 records are all in its name.
Copy paste from the original video 💀
As a german:
Grandma told me about her seeing the firt time black armymen, giving chocolate to her and other kids.
grandma never told me about black woman saving her & europe from the nazis.
I think changing the narrative of ww2 in a way Netflix did, is a really bad thing.
yeah, my grandma (a kid back then) used to think that chocolate makes your skin black, she just didnt know chocolate (or people with dark skin for that matter)
Rewriting history is diabolic.
but they did read the true story about the6888
@@MrGARPOV it's not rewriting it's a true story it really happened
I've heard many stories about the allies and the reds handing chocolate to little German girls in WW2. None of them are good stories.
Female war movie plot (not satire): "Faced with discrimination and a country devastated by war, they managed to sort more than 17 million pieces of mail"
They could have made a video about the Tuskegee airmen a group of colored men who never lost an ally bomber during their escort missions. Instead it’s about sorting mail stateside 😂 the jokes write themselves
@Astelch they already did a tuskegee movie some years ago that's probably why they made this shit. Ran out of black people war stories to tell
@@Astelch Especially since the last movie the Airmen got was that piece of garbage Red Tails. They can't get a quality movie first considering how many men they protected on those bomb runs?
Men getting support on the frontline from back home is quite literally the only thing that kept them going. ANY VETERAN WILL TELL YOU THIS
You know what's sad is how watered down the plot is.
Most folks don't understand what goes into making a military actually work, because logistics are admittedly a boring subject even to Military historians.
Netflix squandered a golden opportunity to show that here but nope.
Instead of a group of soldiers working to solve a difficult mission it was a white people bad movie.
I watched it and my God I'm sick of the historical revision.
Critical drinker: i know this isn't how unit designations work
Asmon: so that's how unit designations work
😂😂😂😂😂
😂😂😂
We all know he’s not the brightest.
@@EduardLaser1989 What's even sadder is that he's not even the dimmest bulb out there.
Lmao
It's the Bill Burr bit about the first all-black ping pong team.
Oh my god you’re absolutely right.
STAY OUTTA THE PoOoOoOoL!
or Bill Burr's bit about airplanes and all passengers who can board the plane before the first class
"Battlefield that way!" guy
Bill Burr is married to a black though
They're going to steal the paddles!!!
I've been looking for this comment.
That's the problem. This isn't an "authentic recreation of something that actually happened".
You think someone was like 'OMG LETS DO A MOVIE ABOUT POSTAL WORKERS DELIVERING LETTERS!' and everyone cheered and was like omg that sounds like an amazing movie idea full of action!
No, it's because they were black. Don't poo in my shoe and tell me it's chocolate cake.
I think the film Glory about the all-volunteer black regiment of the 54th Massachusetts Infantry Regiment during the Civil War was worthy of being made. But this? No!
Imagine Netflix doing a movie about D-Day now. It would be 50/50 men/trans and every race equally represented.
What's hilarious is that all the 'it didn't happen this way' complainers:
How many americans fought and died on D day and Normandy?
Go look it up, then ask yourself how many 'Merica' movies have you guys as the heroes there? And you've been ok with THOSE, but not this one?
War machine / hollywood propoganda machine is gonnna do what they do.
Good luck folks, they're trying to tear your country apart, if they haven't already.
Watch them divide everyone into shares according to the global population. New history plus.
Ah yes, because they told a lesser known units story, a unit most people never knew existed and was ignored because they're minorities. 🙄
No. It would be about two secretly gay recruits falling in love, one being a minor who lied about his age to serve... and to love. The other, a colored shoeshine who was wrongfully accused of the assault of a white woman who chose the military instead of prison.
DDay just kinda happens.
@@FreyjaFoxx.xsomeone hasn’t read about history. And go figure, it’s a Wahmen who didn’t even get the whole point of OP’s comment.
Target Audience: Wine Moms.
Just like most Netflix originals.
"DRUNK AUNTIES"
I don't think people realize our country is absolutely saturated with wine moms it's mostly wine moms😂
I’m not sure that’s even the target audience. I don’t actually know who is. I don’t know many black women who care about WWII shows. In fact, I don’t know a single person of any race or gender that thinks this would be a compelling story.
How dare they make content for their target audience
Single Cat Ladies
例えコレが素晴らしい作品であっても製作者の｢黒人を崇めよ｣って言う思想が伝わって来てゲンナリします。昔のハリウッド映画は楽しかったなと思うんですよ。昔のディズニー映画も楽しかった。
日本に住む私ですらウンザリしてる。
Agree. Ito would get very tiring in japan as well.
@@npcimknot958ngl, with all the appropriation on JP artists works disguised as "fixing" in the bird website, It makes sense they are tired.
Mee too and I am Latino.. its tiresome and disingenuous.. suddenly everyone is black and everything important in history was done by them and all that matters is their skin color... disregarding reality and history.. its fetishism inserted in American movies for no reason..
You know the movie’s bad when even the axis enemy is criticizing the movie
не только тебя, я уже устал по три часа выбирать фильм или сериал, последние фильмы годы все фильмы с запахом говна.
5:40 - Sabaton has a song about them, "Night Witches", and their website has the historical facts for every song they've made, highly recommend checking them out
If it was a bunch of Karen’s and Betsy’s sorting mail, it wouldn’t be a series, and THATS the problem.
‘Not being white’ isn’t synonymous with ‘deserving of praise’
You gotta admit; they ARE stretching this trope pretty thin, aren't they?
There wasn't enough racism that they created it in the movie. They turned the whyte male general racist when the real person actually fought for them.
@@Pepe-dq2ib Hope his grandkids or great grandkids slam Netflix for that.
They have to blackwash history however they can so the globalist myth of 'equality' seems real, despite 75%+ of the planets populants and ancestors being tribes people until 150 years ago and not part of any civilisations that created the modern 1st world.
Many ww2 vets said the only thing that kept them fighting was getting support back at home. Unironically moral is important
Ironically they are making black people into a laughingstock. This forced shit always does the exact opposite of what it sets out to achieve.
I can't believe "Letters from Iwo Jima" left out the real heros. Shame.
Real
Step aside 101st airborne we sorted mail.
Comment of the day 😂
D Day is a joke compared to the casualty rate of the mail room due to paper cuts and slicing off tips of fingers from the letter openers.
The "Braveheart" style motivational speech about sorting the mail is HILARIOUS!!! 🤣
There's nothing "authentic" about a Netflix adaptation of a true story.
Yes, this is the same company that made a docu-series declaring that Cleopatra was not only black but a girl boss. It was practically an international incident as Egypt was having none of it.
Or even a fictional one, to be honest. 😂
Netflix adaption of 9/11 would be that the hero of the film was a black woman who pulled a Brian Griffen and stopped 9/11 from even happening in the first place.
Netflix: This series is based on a real event....... which we won't tell you about because we've got am agenda to push.
The issue isn't whether this was fake or not. It's the idea that they're overlooking millions of other people with more interesting stories, just to focus on the one black women battalion--like how they chose Yasuke to be the face of Assassin's Creed Japan.
And let's not get this confused, this isn't just a harmless documentary. It's propaganda. A snippet of it was shown at 3:28. The "white man bad, black woman good" type deal we've seen for years.
Bro why are you so mad about a True story that actually happened wtf
How are you so sure they wont make a movie about the other overlooked people? This is actually a true story and people are still mad.
You literally sound like the people you complain about, just because they make a story about some doesn't mean they ignored the others.
@@pollointerestelar7439 Those more interesting stories didn't get the funding for a film, so yes they were ignored.
@@gabrielleander1926 Well he isnt wrong about this film being a propaganda to prop up black woman while demeaning every other parts of the military. It's a film trying to disguise itself as a documentary, but it isnt a documentary. This film could have a complete serious documentary, not a film full of weird out of place satire.
What sucks is that in some ways this was detrimental for the moral of the soldiers during the war because a lot of women back home were sending "Dear John" letters to the men fighting.
Long story short, It was so bad that General Patton requested that the women who sent the letters be charged with treason lol.
But that makes it even more worthy as series material, because it means it isn't about the men receiving mail from their loved ones to boost their morale, it's about the women getting to tell the men, that it's over.
So much empowerment!
What are “Dear John” letters?
@@Remi617 Break up
@Remi617 "dear John" letters, refers to letters that would be sent to soldiers overseas by women back home, effectively telling them it's over. Usually because they met someone else.
The old days equivalent of a breakup by text.
That be interesting if that was also part of the series, where the they work endlessly to get the letter to a soldier and it turn out it was their wife or girlfriends leaving them, then the soldiers being demoralized. Then cut to Patton complaining about all the breakup letter, all the while the post women are happy thinking they are helping the soldiers.
Can't wait for "No matter what they say in school, Roosevelt was a lesbian black woman"
Kinda odd that Asmon's take away from Deinker's video is a criticism Drinker not only didn't make (that people will think real events fake), but explicitly defuses. Drinker doesn't claim these events didnt happen, he points out the movie is passing over so many great heroes of WWII to glamorize... Postal workers.
Yeah, it's like Asmon doesn't even pay attention to the shit he reacts to.
Asmon just overthink stuffs sometime.
I don't think his comments were in response to CD's video specifically, rather he seemed to be talking about the initial social media reaction to this. After all, it isn't like CD was saying this wasn't a real thing that happened lol.
His content could benefit from a little more thought clarity though for sure.
Tyler Perry spearheaded this movie. This is a story he wanted to tell. Ofcourse there are many war stories that haven't been told. However they need a millionaire or a company willing to produce it. I agree with asmon. There's nothing objectively bad about this movie, maybe the quips are corny, but it's a real story based on real people. Are we so mad that we can't even allow others to tell their story??
I don't think anyone is denying that some black women sorted some mail 6 months before the war ended, the question is why should we be interested in that.
They would’ve done better if this was about all the women that stayed behind and took over the factory jobs to make the ammo and the machines for the men as they went to war that would’ve been way better show to watch
Wow! That's Military Industrial Complex propaganda! We can't do that!
How about the real story of Rosie the Riveter, who quit her job soon after the famous picture because she didnt want to risk her precious lady fingers
To be fair. Men getting support from back home was literally the only thing that kept them going.
They could also done better by making "The Six Triple Eight" as a complete serious documentary film or put it together with the factory jobs to make it more interesting. However, this film screams SO FAKE, but it is a true story because of all the satire they put in the film. It's like a parody. Netflix dont know how to read the room.
nothing in this world can make this show better its pure garbage dog popo
Sorting mail in a warehouse in the safety of U.K. at the end of world war 2, yes such unbelievable heroism.
It was the only black women story in the entire WW2 they could tell. There where black heroes and there where women heroes but no black women heroes.
@@DuBstep115yea cause the US was so supportive of POC back then 🙄🙄🙄🙄
@@ethantravis8378 yet there where heroes in ww2 that where POC. Just not women
LMAO Asmon thinks this is going to be an "authentic representation" lmfao. What a sucker.
The problem with Asmon's take here is that he thinks this movie is being targeted because of fatigue generated by inorganic BS, when in fact this movie is more inorganic BS.
His point is just that it's a real story this time. Motivations to make it aside because that's clear to everyone, there is intolerance because of fatigue, especially like he mentioned people thinking it's fake.
Who cares if it's a real story. Bill from down the road stacks shelves at the grocery store. Bill doesn't deserve a Netflix series about his job. His job sucks. Just like the women sorting mail.
@@HULK-HOGAN1maybe because I’m in the military I have a different look on it. But I have to say we all respect each others jobs no matter how different, yeah we joke about it occasionally but at the end of the day we’re all on the same team willing to do whatever whenever the time comes. Idk man something about hearing a civilian say someone’s job in the army is crap is insane and bothered me. Enjoy your Christmas dude.
@@HULK-HOGAN1 Two things. First, the point of the video is not that their job sucks or doesn't "deserve" a series (what nonsense are you on about), only that there would be more interesting participations in war to cover, questioning the marketing as heroes.
Second, you don't get to tell them "stop race swapping and make something about a black character to begin with", while also saying "who cares if it's a real story" when they do just that. Prime example of the fatigue Asmongold is talking about.
@@khad9675 That's an emotional response. I'm saying low stakes jobs which are menial in contrast with majority of regular jobs, let alone dying on the battlefield do not deserve the spotlight like a TV show. Merry Christmas to you
That "Lady Death" sniper... you even have the title of the movie already written for you! I would watch that without a second thought!
Yeah but everyone would walk out of the threatre when they realize it isn't another marvel movie.
I don’t think Netflix will make a movie about a Russian female sniper right now.
There's already a movie about her, it's a russian movie of course, the US doesn't want to appreciate soviet effort nor recognize that they won the war
Already exists…as a animated movie for the Chaos/Coffin Comics character Lady Death 😊
@@TheNocturnal1man of culture
At 3:58 I just realized that Naughty Dog clip has the woman shaving her head but holding the clippers wrong. She's got no guard on it, which is fine, but in that case, the flat of the clipper should be against the skin. Otherwise she'll be dragging the teeth across her skin and that will definitely leave marks! Those things are sharp!
Special space clippers.
came here to say the same thing
You need a girlfriend.
@@lorenzomerlos I have a wife. 26 years.
I thought I was the only person who saw that. 😆
"AN IMPOSSIBLE TASK" Lmao... 'Meh... get the blacks to do it, will keep them busy while the more comptent folk get to the real work.' That was literally the thought process behind this at the time.
It's the constant search for any diverse (black) character in History to make a big deal about, look at Yasuke, look at the BBC UK WW2 drama told through the eyes of a kid, they cast a black kid, look at every advert in America and the UK now includes a bi-racial couple or just a straight up black couple, UK C5 made a Documentary about the Ann Boleyn, they cast a black actress to play her, the live adaption of How to train your Dragon race swapped the female to a black actress, the live adaptation of the Japanese Manga ‘Kakegurui - Compulsive Gambler’ cast 2 black actors, it just get's ridiculous at some point!
And Apple TVs show The Blitz, apparently it ruffled feathers. Don't watch anything but YT anymore, fed up being lectured to.
And the race swapping always swings in one direction.
and yet these are the same woke npc's who will smugly proclaim that "white people have no culture" while constantly stealing from said cultures.
Yasuke had the potential to be really really good. Then they added giant robots and other weird shit
And they made Achilles black. Lol.
They went full Netflix. Never go full Netflix.
It's not that it's fake, it's that it is completely forced. Checking boxes for content. Hollywood nonsense and dramatic music added to the most banal and bureaucratic aspects of routine military life.
Movie’s not even out yet lol
you dont have to watch it so how is it forced
@@sese8976 not that kinda forced, probably meant he message behind the movie is so blatant that its screaming just to show its "difference"
@ we have ww2 movies about every single subject 1000+ why is focusing on an actual event then so wrong we have 1000+ movies with white people is one movie about the contributions of the black community that Wierd it needs hate? I don’t get that you all don’t have to go watch, but it doesn’t change the fact that these woman existed, enlisted during war and where thus send to the postal office but remember this is 1940 this isn’t now postal was super important in those eras especially for the war effort so it a kinda sad since I thought many Americans would have seen a story about these woman as a story about veterans since they are veterans
Night Witches or Lady Death would have been far more heroic than mail admins....
10:30 In 1996 this would've been a made for TV movie on TNT or TBS that you might have watched by accident because it aired after the toon block was over.
Not even. There’s a reason why 90s shows are so popular. Go watch any of them now. They were so much better with jokes and/or plots that would NEVER be allowed today.
@@limitedhangoutlive 100% agree with you. The 90's contained some of the best shows and movies produced and were are overall better. You have gems after that, but the quality of writing and storytelling just started to overall tank from the 2000's and on.
@@limitedhangoutlive Nah for a direct to tv movie it would definitely fit, but a very high chance it'd of just been a lifetime movie.
@@limitedhangoutlive It'll be fine as long as they have a laugh track.
@@Insanecorn Lifetime had a movie with a woman in a wheelchair being chased by a killer who was also in a wheelchair and she managed to survive because she held onto a railing longer than the guy when shimmying across a ledge.
Sorting mail, such an exciting premise for a movie
Not even that, Violet Evergarden made a much better story around women having to work with mail
@@angelb.3692 finally, someone mentioned VE
peak show
The Always Sunny episode where Mac and Charlie work in a mailroom seems way better
@@angelb.3692 finally a VE mention
peak show
Yeah, I guess they though they would impress people by showing them black women can sort mail
I want a movie about the Japanese guy who stayed alone on his island in the Pacific still fighting WWII until the 70s when they finally convinced him the war was over. That man is a ridiculously amazing hero who just happened to be on the losing side.
Yea
Hiroo Onoda. He actually had 3 other guys with him, 1 who surrendered, and 2 who died. It was just him, until they called up his old commander to force him to surrender.
Huge L for Asmongold here. People aren't calling the history fake, they are questioning why you need to make a movie about people sorting the mail. The movie even advertises race baiting in the trailer. Don't be disingenuous.
They distributed mail from warehouses to district command centres...that's it.
This movie is going to make it seem like they're delivering letters in the trenches.
One of the trucks got blown up by a bomb due to a driver ignoring the soldier’s warning. It’s hilarious, “I ain’t tryna break my momentum!”
@Rudenbehr i totally value what they did, but you know they're going to radically inflate their actual importance.
Damm
The women faced segregation and sexism within the military and worked in poor conditions but they got the job done. 17 million mail pieces were delivered in 90 days but were given six months.
No one thinks its fake, Asmon. Its just a total netflix move to make a whole movie about something barely worth a 10 min youtube doc. We all know why they did it, and thats why people hate it already.
They're scraping the bottom of the barrel... while the barrel is overflowing.
10:35 I don't think I'd would watch a movie about sorting mails as a kid
10:20 The problem isnt the movie itself its the framing and seeling it as some sort of heroic tale
Yep drinker made that very clear. This deserved being a reenactment documentary on the history channel
I was just about to comment this
Imagine the "true" story. Boring office life, people just sorting letters...thats it lol
@teknoninja99 I mean you could make a show about that something like M.A.S.H for example wasn't about heroics as such
No one thought it was fake. They just think it’s a dumb waste of money and attention just because they’re black.
No they think it's a waste of money because it's a story about sorting mail 4 months before the end of WW2. If they were white this story would never have gotten greenlit. Nobody had a problem with Red Tails as a concept (the movie itself sucks but that's because of writing and direction not the Tuskegee Airmen). Honestly, this is just an example of black fragility, demanding to be celebrated and called heroes for sorting mail at the ass end of a war.
That's not true. It's kind of disrespectful to people who actually risked their lives. Those who fought and died. As the video explains there were far more heroic diversity groups in WW2 which would be far more compelling to portray with minimal truth stretching.
Why? can't tell a story about black women? Is not like they change the historical event from white women to black women, they were black women doing that jobs.
Would Netflix have made this show if they weren’t black?
@@Narsty_Boybut then you'd have a problem with that. Foh
its a minor side quest people want you to believe is as important as the main quest.
This is such a boring premise for a film. I can't see how Asmon thinks it's an OK idea. It's just so mundane.
It would be fine for documentary. But movie, yeah highly questionable premise.
That's the crux of the issue really. The content is greatly overblown for what it is.
It's an ok film in the sense that there's no reason to be against it, not to mention mundane films aren't that unusual
hes probably just pretending to stay neutral
Jarhead, The Deer Hunter, The Imitation Game, and MASH all also have pretty boring premises too, yet those are all popular and well received war movies/shows. You can describe almost every WW2 movie about the fighting as “half the movie is just the characters in boot camp before actually going to war”, the entire first episode of Band of Brothers is just them at boot camp. I can keep going with examples. Premise means almost nothing in a story, you can tell a good story with good characters with basically any premise. As I’ve already pointed out, WW2 has a ton of examples of good enjoyable well received movies/shows that don’t have particularly exciting premises.
My dad was a Pearl Harbor survivor and he would never watch this crap.
Maybe your dad fought the wrong enemy
Who cares your dad want to watch or not.
@@joelb.7587 edited and still improper grammar lmao
@Goblinboyo162 i guess you only speak English. I can speak 4 lol
Checks out comsidering how women were regarded at his time and even now
Cuties is the most Netflix movie to ever Netflix up a Netflix. Always remember they made that monstrosity.
That’s literally not true actually, it was a foreign French film that they got the rights to show it internationally, although I think was Netflix that changed the name and made that infamous poster.
@@darthdragonborn1552 yep but Netflix funded the production company in France. That movie would not have been made without there help. Amazing how that PR disaster for them gets swept under the rug.
@@Capoe3 It by definition cannot be a PR disaster and get swept under the rug - it has to be one or the other.
@@TheMLGSnubs No, it can be both. It _was_ a PR disaster, because there was a backlash against it. _Then_ it was swept under the rug, by the effective PR response by the media.
@@TheMLGSnubs While it was top of mind people were revolted and then they forgot. For a while it was a disaster then people moved on. They even were bringing it up in Congress but Netflix sure isn’t going to bring it up anymore and voila swept under the rug, memory holed whatever you would like to call it.
Honestly this is an insult to the actual women who did this job, it was important as it helped the families and the soldiers stay in touch better and it’s obvious that instead of showing how their actions brought hope to people, they are just using it for ‘look everyone strong, independent, diverse women!’.
Come off it
You know what would be sick? If they put modern-day, Marvel-type humor into the show. That would totally captivate the modern audience!
No it’s “you know what this historical film about black Americans in WW2 needs? A musical sound track full of modern hip hop music from artists such as Megan Thee Stallion”
If this is going to be like "A League of Their Own", I wouldn't mind at all. However, from the trailer alone, you can tell there's going to be a lot of moments where they'll undervalue the struggles of people who fought in the trenches just because they're not part of Hollywood's "diversity" quota.
@GlassesnMouthplates already in the trailer
And nice avatar
I liked the subtle nod in A League of Their Own when the black lady throws the foul ball expertly back into the playing field and then gives a nod. That fit perfectly in the film and wasn’t in your face about the prejudices
No matter the culture or the time, nobody thinks mail sorters are heroes.
They are literally protesting in usa so yeah for sure not
I have to strongly disagree. You don't have to be on the front lines to be a hero. I think they are heros. You obviously don't understand how valuable the mail was back then for soldiers and their families. It was a serious problem, and for many soldiers, the only thing that kept them going. Thousands upon thousands of wives, mothers and children had no way of knowing if their men were alive or not and counted on letters sent to them. And vice versa, it helped with moral for soldiers when mail was sent back to them to hear from their family. By all means, these women were heros who helped the women and children of the soldiers
TBF mail was a lot more important since it affected soldiers' morale, but I do agree about it not being worthwhile to make a movie about.
@@JPMonster13 I have a family member that works for the post office. Its a good job. During covid I kept telling them how they were front line soldiers and deserve a medal.
@@pepperdeez using your logic, i would be considered a hero for my work in quality assurance in aviation by making sure the parts meet the blueprints so the pilots can feel better about flying the planes. Sorry, but they aren't heroes.
The fact WW2 ended nearly 80 years ago and not once has this particular ‘battalion’ featured in a show or film, tells me everything I need to know. It’s not a compelling story, it’s because they are ‘diverse’.
All the examples critical drinker pointed out had one problem
If they were women, they weren’t black
If they were black, they weren't women
You've got mail.......participation achievement unlocked!
"Netflix movie" is now a genre in itself, ironic isn't it? We all know the tropes...
In the 90s this would've been a comedy or romcom.
That's exactly what I was thinking!
The story itself isn't the problem, it's the tone.
This might have even made a fun TV show. You have a large cast in one location.
You could have told stories about the lives of the womaen there. Something with the tone of M.A.S.H.
A neat gimmick could have been the audience gets to hear the letters contents, learn about the people sending them, and see the military man react to them. They could even be recurring soldiers as they get letters over and over.
Maybe less a story about the people delivering the letters, but the letters themselves.
There's the story of a female opera singer, which was also a fencer with all of the skills of Zorro and totally bisexual, to the point that she could at one moment put some holes on a man with a sword to defend the honor of a woman she has kissed in a ball, and then bed him almost inmediately afterwards. The king in the story is an interpretative dancer and the king's brother is a crossdresser and gay, maybe even trans. In some part of the story she also burns a convent to rescue a nun, and the church tries to burn her at the stake.
The story is so over the top it would be seen as the ultimate herald of THE MESSAGE and practically a meme on our cynical standards of the post woke era.
But it existed, search it yourself.
Search for la Maupin, and pray Netflix or Amazon doesn't find it yet.
Mailing Private Ryanne
12:04 that is exactly the problem. Once it flops we're all gonna be called "racist" while it's not about race it's purely about "why do I want to watch a movie about postal workers? I don't"
They say it’s historical, but often Lots of stuff is exaggerated
4:22 Glory was life changing for me! I always loved history and learning about things not always in history books but I saw Glory at 7 years old and became obsessed with early America
I dunno how to describe this trailer, but i am gonna try. It feels like a complete fake film full of satire, but it is a TRUE STORY. However, the whole premise of the story makes it feel that they are demeaning the every other parts of the military to prop this Battalion up as more important. This film should have been made as a complete serious documentary film, not some humor or unserious film. Netflix just can't read the room.
Yeah it feels like a mockumentary, but you can tell it's trying to be serious.
the story is EXTREMELY dramatized. It was nothing like they portrayed it in the movie, lol.
This guy was there! Tell us. lol,
@ oh yes because I totally needed to be there to do my own fkn research to find out how obviously dramatized the story is. You didn’t get the burn you think you did my friend. How about instead of taking the establishment at their word you do a little research for yourself
What, are you saying that this story about the epic black mailwymyn owning the white man isn't true???
@ lmao
Congratulations, most historical movies are extremely exaggerated so what’s your point.
Violet Evergarden done a better job than this. Although it just someone writing paper to deliver to people during war, but many people like it.
Agree
I just saw the movie and it was good. As someone who has received letters while deployed, they are a huge morale booster. My experience was very different than my grandfather’s. He and his friends sacrificed for a country that during his time (in 1943) did not provide the same rights, benefits or privileges while serving. I have worked with and for prejudice and racist people and it was demoralizing. Thankfully most of the free world has gotten its stuff together. So the movie is good to me because it highlights a war within that most today have no clue how to endure. I have understanding of how my ancestors were treated by their own countrymen (and military leaders). I’m not angry or woke or whatever bull the internet is spewing. I’m happy we are better today. Enjoying the stories of all our past and what was overcome to get here. These ladies don’t need to be your hero nor did they ask to be. Just have the basic understanding that someone somewhere was thankful for their service. Some might have been in your family history. Now go touch grass, mud, and rock and stop fearing yourselves into a divided country again. Merry Christmas and thank the Lord Jesus for another day. (Your lord may vary but have thanks regardless.)
I agree with this. It wasn't a bad movie, and it was incredibly important not only for the troops but their families back home. Many of these guys lefts their sweethearts thinking they would go off to fight in some cowboy film and be heroes, only to be met with an unimaginable nightmare. A letter from family/girlfriend probably saved a lot of them. The movie was definitely "based" on a true story tho. I do appreciate the WW2 selection on Netflix tho, they have the best docs
you were never in the armed forces. you're a reddit user who spends every waking moment trying to spread amateur-level pro establishment propaganda
@ Chris. read the last three sentences again. You don’t have to believe what anybody says on the internet. Just do us all a favor. When you find out the truth, have enough dignity to admit you were wrong. Have a happy new year.
The funny thing is, the pilots transporting these postal workers were probably in much more danger than they were.
6:04 From what I heard, the landings were even rougher because some guys had been given alcohol just before they shoved off
Keep going with the CritIcal Drinker reviews. He is the real deal.
No he isn't, he was among the last people to inform his audience why things were moving in the direction they are, or about the ESG system in general. You learn nothing watching him, he's just rage bait.
@@stinkfinga4918 I've learned a lot watching him
@@stinkfinga4918not even true at all. I’ll give you that some of his stuff is sure. But he is fair when it’s good. Take Baby Reindeer for example. That story is not for right wing people at all. But he gave it high praise because it’s a great story told well. No way you’re getting a right winger to watch that show. If it’s good he’s more than fair even if it is diverse and somewhat “woke”.
@John_Notmylastname there was one review iirc
@@John_Notmylastnameno, it’s a terrible show, and a lot of his takes are dog shit
So am I a hero because I wash dishes during covid at a restaurant😂
5:14 For deadliest sniper of all times she is number 5. Pretty, badass woman. Give me a video games of her and promise you it would sell.
10/10 would see movie, series / play game
Nah.
@@keithlolIt will dude. All they have to do is make it believable without pandering to an ideology or gender. Make the movie fair and authentic, and it will sell
@@rickyricardo2006People are so wary of anything that even have a slight possibility of being woke it's gonna be a massive uphill battle.
@@Ilasperrtrue and if it succeeds it’ll succeed hard
"The ArchCast" review of the show explains how it's not "woke" but the standard race grift from Tyler Perry.
What they should of done is make a series with 1hr episodes, and each episode covers the lesser known stories of WWII
Did you see the comedy skit by Bill Burr, when he comments on this exact type of thing, with the movie Pride, about Black swimmers? It was hysterical, and this reminded me of it. He basically says we are digging at the bottom of the barrel to make these movies, and lo and behold we found another on down there, mail delivery.
5:43 they didn't give them parachutes because they believed they would bail out the first chance they had and not fight, not because the planes were overloaded. If the plane was overloaded it wouldn't fly. A parachute does not equate to the weight of the smallest of bombs if that is what was inferred here
No, it was a wooden plane (no radar detection) with weak engine (so it wouldn't make noise) and they were not only women but skinny women because evey kilo of weight was important.
They bombed important locations at night while being as stealthy as possible hence "Night Witches".
ancient very slow bi planes, that were manufactured cheaply out of plywood with open cockpits (In eastern Europe and often during the winter), sometimes 12 or more sorties a night, with no radar, no radios, no parachutes, and no defensive capabilities whatsoever and still managed to cause havoc on German positions, they would fly close, then cut their engines, glide over the target drop their bombs, restart their engines and get out of there, get back to their base, turn round refuel and do it again. Weight was hugely important but also the Russian High command believed that they were an unnecessary safety net thinking that the planes could simply glide to earth if hit - what actually happened was they normally went down (when they went down at all) in flames due to anti aircraft fire or German fighters, killing both pilot and navigator (who was also the co pilot - these were training planes not military bombers.
@@ImperativeGames lol, weak engines so they wouldn't make noise, and skinny women
This plus the fact most die in dog fights irrelevant of parachutes so it was an unnecessary expenditure, it'd be like putting seat belts on a teleporter tht reorganised ur matter , it won't save anyone
Glory is an OUTSTANDING film
Always love me a Critical Drinker vid
Give us back Hollywood instead of this Blackwood.
To be fair there is already a Movie about Lyudmila Pavlichenko and multiple about the Tuskegee airmen
Having these postal workers be part of a series would be super sick. Having an entire story about them is super strange.
100 percent... I love the history channel ww2 content and if it had a section about this it would be very interesting as I had no idea about these women or their mission. Mail and care packages is everything to a soldier but a whole movie about it is wild af lol.
We need the stories of the heroic plumbers of WWII dealing with the real 💩
Plumbers on Navy ships were actually heroes. They saved several ships from sinking at Pearl Harbor.
@AppalachianMountaineer1863 Yeah no 💩! Well...
(sorry had to 😜) for real covering real second line, logistics and maintenance jobs would be way more interesting. I'd bet there are plenty amazing people that kept stuff going that shouldn't have and therefore saved others
On as serious note, the army engineers definitely won us the war.
its not about what they done its about what they went through with all the hate and being belittled it was a really touching movie
They had a K/D ratio equal to none... literally.
I have a higher K/D than they do and I never served.
0/1 actually