Floyd Rose 1000 IS NOT THE SAME AS AN ORINGINAL. 1000s are Korean made. they are supposed to the same specs, but they are different. the original is German and still the king.
I've been to many guitar stores, and I've never came across a better fr than the kramer recessed floyd. Going to a higher pitch as well as lower, is better than just going lower.
Things may have changed since this video was posted, but from what I’ve read, Original Floyd Rose = Schaller factory in Germany. FTR-O1000 = South Korea and come on stock guitars that have a Floyd Rose.
Cool, video. Ive never owned an Original Floyd Rose, the closest i have is the FRT 1000 on my Bc Rich Warlock, its still cool. All my others are just licensed that came on the guitars. The best one is the screw in bar licensed Floyd on my late 80s Bc Rich Bich. Years ago i thought id upgrade to an original but i won't now, i like the feel of it as much as any of them.
I've got a new-ish chrome Floyd Rose Special trem installed on my Jackson JS32M guitar, some people seem to think it's an inferior trem to the Floyd Rose Original, but I've been able to get it to perform pretty well so far after lots of whammy-bar abuse and re-tuning, got it to the point where none of the strings are going wildly sharp or flat, it does seem to be having relatively minor trouble returning to zero, but I found that if you put some three-in-one oil in where the knife-edges contact the two pivot studs, it does improve it a bit, it doesn't do the "fluttering" effect all that well, but for the price I paid for the parts to build it, it's pretty good, I built it from parts I ordered online from Stewmac, it's definitely better than the stock trem that was on the guitar when I bought it second-hand from my local cash-converters store.
Good day Simon! You are on the right path my friend. The knife edge is the balance point and most important item on a Floyd to stay in tune. If it gets slightly bent or a burr it will always pull the strings out of tune. On the Floyd specials I have slightly filed the edge back to a descent shape before with some success. It can't be to sharp or it will go back to pulling it out of tune. The better Floyd Rose have greater quality metal base plates. Stainless steel chrome veradium is great. You may need to replace the base plate with a better quality one. I hope this helped Simon. Thanks for your support and good luck.
Honestly with my specials, especially now with all the aftermarket parts, I just makes upgrades when I bring them in to be setup every year. The only thing I replaced before a Floyd special touches my guitar is the block. A brass block always goes in from the get go. Then I’ll replace the posts after year of abuse with titanium or real Floyd steel ones. Then I’ll do the springs with noiseless ones. After that it’s the saddles and saddle screws. Everyone says with all the money invested I could of just bought a regular Floyd but since I spent the money incrementally over the course of 3-4 years, I’d say I’ve gotten my moneys worth. I will say though if you can swing a Gotoh GE1996T floyd, I would. Although the standard Floyd studs would have to come out and the Gotohs would have to go in, and the Gotoh is slightly larger than the Floyd models so the GE’s aren’t always a good fit into a standard floyd route which is where a lot of people avoid them. Usually people will replace mid range guitars with awful Floyd licensed trems with the Gotoh because the route is much bigger than a standard Floyd route to accommodate it. You’ll see it on guitars where the sides of the trem routes have 45 degree angle cuts as opposed to smooth rounded cuts.
Can you pull tremolo back? I see the screws under that could damage the guitar's body? I saw some of them have extra place under the guitars body that all bridges goes inside it which models are they?or which models doesn't damage if you pull back
I’m looking to put a Floyd rose in my Jackson, deck mounted like all of these. I’m wondering, how is your action? Are the necks shimmed? If so, how is/was it done? Thanks.
Ricky Gaona You can definitely make your Floyd Rose float Ricky. You just need to take all the tension off the strings first. This is very important to not loose the knife edge of the Floyd while turning the mounting post. Then you can adjust the mounting post up where you would like them. Keep track of the amount of turns on the post so they match each other as far as height. You might need to adjust the springs in the back. Most of the time the spring need to be loosened a little bit. Then re-tune your guitar and check. I hope this helps you. If you’ve got any problems let me know and I can talk you through it. Thanks for checking out my videos. best wishes 🎸🤜💥
So I have one of these cheap licensed floyds (the bar on my just sticks in, no screwing). My problem is the screws that push the blocks that hold the strings are pretty haggard and also one of the saddles is cracked. My question is are all of the components of floyds interchangeable or do I have to buy something specific (are there differences in size)?
Radu Paulisan The blocks & screws are different in some models. If you bring the pieces with you to your local music repair shop they should be able to match em’ up. You will be back to playing in no time. 🎸
Hey Radu, you could measure the blocks and then order em' from StewMac (Stewart Macdonald) or ask Adam at FUtone. He's got a bunch of Floyd Rose parts and upgrades. Best wishes 😀👍
Stewmac stock sets of 6 Floyd Rose Special saddles, plus the screws and string-clamp blocks, they seem to fit fine on a Floyd Rose Special which is pretty much the same-size as a Floyd Rose Original, I've got a chrome Schaller Lockmeister bridgeplate, and the Floyd Rose Special saddles are virtually a drop-in fit.
@@simonkormendy849 It's been 6 months since my original post lol but I ended up buying a random set of saddle blocks off of Ebay for less than 10 euros if I remember correctly. I've only really changed my strings once since and haven't played my electric too much but they seem to fit ok.
The Floyd Rose company makes lots of different models today. The best Floyd Rose trems are marked FRT1000 on the bottom plate. These are made of chrome vanadium steal. If it says “Floyd Rose special” it is made of some types of cheaper metal. Thanks for checking out my channel Ninja!
My Lefty Jackson Rhoads guitar came with the Jackson branded Floyd Rose... TERRIBLE compared to my Original German-made Floyd Rose I had put in its place. Get the Original FR!!!
My Kramer Striker (Look to the left) and Baretta (with a sustainer system) have the Kramer branded trems that came with the EVH D-Tuna. The guitar I play the most often now is my Ibanez Jem Jr. But the trem on that sucks ass. I'm constantly tightening the Allen screw under the bar. That small nut on the sleeve that the bar sits in just won't stay tight. The bar works itself loose after using it a few times, and swings down. And forget about holding tune. Back in 1986 I bought an Ibanez RS-440 (Roadstar II) and beat the hell out of that tremolo (ala Brad Gillis of Night Ranger) and it never went out of tune. I'm considering getting a Floyd Rose Original to drop into the Jem Jr. Do you think it'll just fit right in? Or will some mods have to be made?
The original Floyd may not fit directly. You may need to reset the post to fit in to your guitar. You could try some Loctite on the screws for the bar. It may hold it in place for you. Good luck my friend. 🎶👍
I noticed that it doesn't look like theres a cavity routed in for the floyd rose, ive been wondering, do you need to have a cavity routed to in install a floyd rose?
Thanks for checking out my videos ur friendly neighborhood weeaboo. No cavity required to install a Floyd Rose. All you need is the two pivot points. 😊👍
Sorry Joe No I'm not. I have enjoyed playing a few Fernandes guitars before. I remember them to be of really good quality. Good luck my friend and thanks for checking out my music channel.
The Floyd Rose special is pretty much the lowest quality Floyd you can get. It’s made out of cheap pot metal and galvanized pieces. They offer this for the cheaper guitars just to be able to say it has a Floyd Rose on it. A Floyd Rose hot rod special is where someone has added a few better quality metal parts to a cheap Floyd special. That is what some call hot rodding a guitar. Otherwise you’re looking for a FRT 1000 or Floyd Rose Pro. These are made out of chrome vanadium steel and work fantastic. I would highly recommend saving your money for a better quality Floyd. I believe you will be happier in the end. Thank for checking out my videos N- Money. Best wishes 👍
Correction; I found that Floyd Rose has a new model out called the “Floyd Rose special hot rod” edition tremolo. It looks to be a quality made model. That is very confusing of them to having one called Floyd Rose special and the other being called Floyd Rose special hot Rod.
Chris LINK I just can’t simply find any other guitars with active pickups and a better bridge. Would it be a wise option to get a FR 1000 Pro later on? Thanks.
The FRT 1000 works fantastic. I don't think you need to spend the extra money on the pro model. Keep looking around if you really want something with active pickups or you can always get the guitar you want most and add something like a EMG or Seymour Duncan later on. 👍
Schaller made the original world famous incredible diveboming king of the guitar game floyds for years and then lost the contract with Floyd Rose. Schaller had to change the design and specifications from the original pattend design. They are not interchangeable without modifications. The original Floyds are the most sought after models for quality and fit. Thanks for checking out my videos. I appreciate it fendi.
The originals were briefly made by schaller(about a year in early 80s) but had the floyd rose stamp. After floyd moved production they began making liscensed floyd Rose's themselves with the schaller embossing. These are awesome quality floyds.
Brian Robertson hey man i just bought a js34 and im stoked! They seem to be much rarer than all the other js32 models out there and i cant seem to find as much info on them online as far as real customer reviews etc.. how do you like yours? Any issues as of yet? Hows your Floyd holding up? Thanks! (I cant play mine till Christmas haha)
Hello Hell Cat! Just to give you a little of my background, I first started setting up Floyd Rose equipped guitars professionally in 1982. I do have many years of setup, repair, teaching and building guitar experience and I just love my job. Customers over the decades are really happy with my results. The Special is the lowest quality Floyd Rose that I have worked on (and own and play with) that you can get. The facts are the post blades dull fast so it doesn't flutter like the other Floyd's do. Quality of metal is day & night all around. Pot metal used so the screws strip out easier ect. Thanks for checking out my channel Hell Cat. I appreciate you stopping by 🎸❤
Thanks for the in depth response! So if I’m looking for a guitar with a Floyd, the 1000 is pretty much the way to go? Always wanted a kahler but I’ve read many conflicting reviews and comparisons.
Floyd Rose 1000 IS NOT THE SAME AS AN ORINGINAL. 1000s are Korean made. they are supposed to the same specs, but they are different. the original is German and still the king.
Yeah, was thinking that myself.
AND THE GERMAN 1000 PRO SERIES ONES ARE NARROW SPACED, WHILE THE KOREAN 1000 PRO SERIES ARE F SPACED!!
I've been to many guitar stores, and I've never came across a better fr than the kramer recessed floyd. Going to a higher pitch as well as lower, is better than just going lower.
80’s Kramer guitars are killer huh 🎶🎸
@@chrislink007 all 80s guitars are killer
@@chrislink007 I have one of the 80s Kramers.... stings go through the back of the saddle and I don't have to clip off the ball end.
This looks familiar 🤔 but I love Floyd Rose!! Thanks for sharing!! I have Original and Schaller Floyd Rose but all German made.
Thanks for the support R2R3! I am with you I love the Floyds ❤🎸
I don’t know why but I love these hand filmed videos, and thanks for sharing
You gotta’ enjoy all the little things in life huh Lucas. Thanks for the support . 😊🎶🎸
Things may have changed since this video was posted, but from what I’ve read, Original Floyd Rose = Schaller factory in Germany. FTR-O1000 = South Korea and come on stock guitars that have a Floyd Rose.
There are absolutely no galvanized parts on any of these bridges! The term you are looking for is cast zinc alloy.
Cool, video. Ive never owned an Original Floyd Rose, the closest i have is the FRT 1000 on my Bc Rich Warlock, its still cool. All my others are just licensed that came on the guitars. The best one is the screw in bar licensed Floyd on my late 80s Bc Rich Bich. Years ago i thought id upgrade to an original but i won't now, i like the feel of it as much as any of them.
Love them bc rich guitars. Thanks for sharing zombiemosher 🧟♂️🎸
I've got a new-ish chrome Floyd Rose Special trem installed on my Jackson JS32M guitar, some people seem to think it's an inferior trem to the Floyd Rose Original, but I've been able to get it to perform pretty well so far after lots of whammy-bar abuse and re-tuning, got it to the point where none of the strings are going wildly sharp or flat, it does seem to be having relatively minor trouble returning to zero, but I found that if you put some three-in-one oil in where the knife-edges contact the two pivot studs, it does improve it a bit, it doesn't do the "fluttering" effect all that well, but for the price I paid for the parts to build it, it's pretty good, I built it from parts I ordered online from Stewmac, it's definitely better than the stock trem that was on the guitar when I bought it second-hand from my local cash-converters store.
Good day Simon! You are on the right path my friend. The knife edge is the balance point and most important item on a Floyd to stay in tune. If it gets slightly bent or a burr it will always pull the strings out of tune. On the Floyd specials I have slightly filed the edge back to a descent shape before with some success. It can't be to sharp or it will go back to pulling it out of tune. The better Floyd Rose have greater quality metal base plates. Stainless steel chrome veradium is great. You may need to replace the base plate with a better quality one. I hope this helped Simon. Thanks for your support and good luck.
Honestly with my specials, especially now with all the aftermarket parts, I just makes upgrades when I bring them in to be setup every year. The only thing I replaced before a Floyd special touches my guitar is the block. A brass block always goes in from the get go. Then I’ll replace the posts after year of abuse with titanium or real Floyd steel ones. Then I’ll do the springs with noiseless ones. After that it’s the saddles and saddle screws. Everyone says with all the money invested I could of just bought a regular Floyd but since I spent the money incrementally over the course of 3-4 years, I’d say I’ve gotten my moneys worth. I will say though if you can swing a Gotoh GE1996T floyd, I would. Although the standard Floyd studs would have to come out and the Gotohs would have to go in, and the Gotoh is slightly larger than the Floyd models so the GE’s aren’t always a good fit into a standard floyd route which is where a lot of people avoid them. Usually people will replace mid range guitars with awful Floyd licensed trems with the Gotoh because the route is much bigger than a standard Floyd route to accommodate it. You’ll see it on guitars where the sides of the trem routes have 45 degree angle cuts as opposed to smooth rounded cuts.
the body of my guitar had a cutout on the back of the floyd rose so that it wont hit the body
Nice 👍
The forth thats what i have on my guitar
Mr.CristYT right on Mr.Crist! Thanks for checking out my videos. I appreciate it
Awesomeness! 🤘 Thanks for sharing! 💋💖🦋
Wow
Thanks 😊
Can you pull tremolo back? I see the screws under that could damage the guitar's body? I saw some of them have extra place under the guitars body that all bridges goes inside it which models are they?or which models doesn't damage if you pull back
My floyds bridge is weird, i can put the string through without cutting it
They have many different styles of Floyd’s now huh. 😊👍
I think yours is a Schaller speedloader
I’m looking to put a Floyd rose in my Jackson, deck mounted like all of these. I’m wondering, how is your action? Are the necks shimmed? If so, how is/was it done? Thanks.
So I have a Kramer 84 could I have it float to make squiels because it's flush mount right now out of the box
Ricky Gaona You can definitely make your Floyd Rose float Ricky. You just need to take all the tension off the strings first. This is very important to not loose the knife edge of the Floyd while turning the mounting post. Then you can adjust the mounting post up where you would like them. Keep track of the amount of turns on the post so they match each other as far as height. You might need to adjust the springs in the back. Most of the time the spring need to be loosened a little bit. Then re-tune your guitar and check. I hope this helps you. If you’ve got any problems let me know and I can talk you through it. Thanks for checking out my videos. best wishes 🎸🤜💥
So I have one of these cheap licensed floyds (the bar on my just sticks in, no screwing). My problem is the screws that push the blocks that hold the strings are pretty haggard and also one of the saddles is cracked. My question is are all of the components of floyds interchangeable or do I have to buy something specific (are there differences in size)?
Radu Paulisan The blocks & screws are different in some models. If you bring the pieces with you to your local music repair shop they should be able to match em’ up. You will be back to playing in no time. 🎸
@@chrislink007 I don't have a local music repair shop lol rip
Hey Radu, you could measure the blocks and then order em' from StewMac (Stewart Macdonald) or ask Adam at FUtone. He's got a bunch of Floyd Rose parts and upgrades. Best wishes 😀👍
Stewmac stock sets of 6 Floyd Rose Special saddles, plus the screws and string-clamp blocks, they seem to fit fine on a Floyd Rose Special which is pretty much the same-size as a Floyd Rose Original, I've got a chrome Schaller Lockmeister bridgeplate, and the Floyd Rose Special saddles are virtually a drop-in fit.
@@simonkormendy849 It's been 6 months since my original post lol but I ended up buying a random set of saddle blocks off of Ebay for less than 10 euros if I remember correctly. I've only really changed my strings once since and haven't played my electric too much but they seem to fit ok.
Are Ibanez Tremolos technically Floyd Rose or no? Also are the actual Floyd roses better than the licensed Floyd’s like on a Jackson guitsr
The Floyd Rose company makes lots of different models today. The best Floyd Rose trems are marked FRT1000 on the bottom plate. These are made of chrome vanadium steal. If it says “Floyd Rose special” it is made of some types of cheaper metal. Thanks for checking out my channel Ninja!
My Lefty Jackson Rhoads guitar came with the Jackson branded Floyd Rose... TERRIBLE compared to my Original German-made Floyd Rose I had put in its place. Get the Original FR!!!
Just An Ish well the original isn’t make in Germany only the pro and hot rod are and some others
Got to have a floyde rose on everything mostly so great if know how to manage it and if not learn .
Thanks Jim Tom. Rock on brother! 🎶🎸
Hello just met you in the live stream great channels and nice video I hit that button to show some Luv . Let us stay connected
Sun Media 1 right on! Thank you my friend
My Kramer Striker (Look to the left) and Baretta (with a sustainer system) have the Kramer branded trems that came with the EVH D-Tuna. The guitar I play the most often now is my Ibanez Jem Jr. But the trem on that sucks ass. I'm constantly tightening the Allen screw under the bar. That small nut on the sleeve that the bar sits in just won't stay tight. The bar works itself loose after using it a few times, and swings down. And forget about holding tune. Back in 1986 I bought an Ibanez RS-440 (Roadstar II) and beat the hell out of that tremolo (ala Brad Gillis of Night Ranger) and it never went out of tune. I'm considering getting a Floyd Rose Original to drop into the Jem Jr. Do you think it'll just fit right in? Or will some mods have to be made?
The original Floyd may not fit directly. You may need to reset the post to fit in to your guitar. You could try some Loctite on the screws for the bar. It may hold it in place for you. Good luck my friend. 🎶👍
@Brian Robinson I see a GE1996T. Is that a newer model? It looks like the trem arm has a screw on collar and the 1996T has a screw in bar.
I noticed that it doesn't look like theres a cavity routed in for the floyd rose, ive been wondering, do you need to have a cavity routed to in install a floyd rose?
Thanks for checking out my videos ur friendly neighborhood weeaboo. No cavity required to install a Floyd Rose. All you need is the two pivot points. 😊👍
@@chrislink007 thank you so much great video btw.
Thanks I appreciate it
Great Video on this subject. Peace.
Thanks for checking out my videos. I appreciate it ✌️
Hey whats your opinion on the schecter c6 pro floyd rose special hot rod locking? Im thing of getting it but i dont know if i should or not
I have not played one yet. They look killer! 🎸
@@chrislink007 do you have any thoughts on the floyd rose they use?coz its a pretty common
Its the hot rod locking one
Stay clear of the cheaper Floyds and you will be happy. The hot rod Floyd is set up nice.
@@chrislink007 thanks dude, really needed this coz this is the most expensive guitar im buying yet
I’m excited for you brother!
Do you have experience with FRT-7 / Head Crasher that was equipped with Fernandes?
Sorry Joe No I'm not. I have enjoyed playing a few Fernandes guitars before. I remember them to be of really good quality. Good luck my friend and thanks for checking out my music channel.
So I’m looking at a Schecter Demon 6 FR, and it has a Floyd Rose Hot Rod Special. What does that mean? And would it be any good quality? Thanks.
The Floyd Rose special is pretty much the lowest quality Floyd you can get. It’s made out of cheap pot metal and galvanized pieces. They offer this for the cheaper guitars just to be able to say it has a Floyd Rose on it. A Floyd Rose hot rod special is where someone has added a few better quality metal parts to a cheap Floyd special. That is what some call hot rodding a guitar. Otherwise you’re looking for a FRT 1000 or Floyd Rose Pro. These are made out of chrome vanadium steel and work fantastic. I would highly recommend saving your money for a better quality Floyd. I believe you will be happier in the end. Thank for checking out my videos N- Money. Best wishes 👍
Correction; I found that Floyd Rose has a new model out called the “Floyd Rose special hot rod” edition tremolo. It looks to be a quality made model. That is very confusing of them to having one called Floyd Rose special and the other being called Floyd Rose special hot Rod.
Chris LINK I just can’t simply find any other guitars with active pickups and a better bridge. Would it be a wise option to get a FR 1000 Pro later on? Thanks.
The FRT 1000 works fantastic. I don't think you need to spend the extra money on the pro model. Keep looking around if you really want something with active pickups or you can always get the guitar you want most and add something like a EMG or Seymour Duncan later on. 👍
The 2nd one on a Kramer Reissue is a Floyd Rose 1000 Made in Korea am I correct?
Yes you are correct the FRT1000 is made in Korea now. Thanks for checking out my channel! ✌
what's the difference between original floyd 🌹 and schaller floyd 🌹?
Schaller made the original world famous incredible diveboming king of the guitar game floyds for years and then lost the contract with Floyd Rose. Schaller had to change the design and specifications from the original pattend design. They are not interchangeable without modifications. The original Floyds are the most sought after models for quality and fit. Thanks for checking out my videos. I appreciate it fendi.
The originals were briefly made by schaller(about a year in early 80s) but had the floyd rose stamp. After floyd moved production they began making liscensed floyd Rose's themselves with the schaller embossing. These are awesome quality floyds.
I have jackson js11, so which gotoh I'm should buy.
Brian Robertson hey man i just bought a js34 and im stoked! They seem to be much rarer than all the other js32 models out there and i cant seem to find as much info on them online as far as real customer reviews etc.. how do you like yours? Any issues as of yet? Hows your Floyd holding up? Thanks! (I cant play mine till Christmas haha)
*Robinson
@Brian Robinson wow! Im a happy camper, thanks man
The floyd rose 1000 is made in korea. The new kramers do not have a german floyd rose.
The candy blue guitar is an original 1983 Kramer Pacer Imperial. It absolutely DID come with an original German made Floyd Rose FRT 1000 Brandon.
@@chrislink007 You'll notice I'm talking about new kramers. not old.
I explain the differences between the old and new Floyd Rose on Kramer guitars.
Dude I got an even crappier version of Floyd rose. No locking nut which throws tuning off. I can't even use it.
What!... oh wow Dave that’s a big bummer brother.
@@chrislink007 Its okay. I got a cheap one on eBay for 26 bucks. Going to install it. I hope I don't destroy my guitar lol.
Take your time and you should be just fine. Good luck Dave
I have a 87 charvel 3DR all original and it's a high end floating floyd diff then any of these here.
87’ Wayne Charvel! Right on Billy. I would really love to play it and jam with you sometime. Thanks for checking out the videos. Best wishes Chris 🎶🎸
So the Floyd rose special is garbage?
Hello Hell Cat! Just to give you a little of my background, I first started setting up Floyd Rose equipped guitars professionally in 1982. I do have many years of setup, repair, teaching and building guitar experience and I just love my job. Customers over the decades are really happy with my results. The Special is the lowest quality Floyd Rose that I have worked on (and own and play with) that you can get. The facts are the post blades dull fast so it doesn't flutter like the other Floyd's do. Quality of metal is day & night all around. Pot metal used so the screws strip out easier ect. Thanks for checking out my channel Hell Cat. I appreciate you stopping by 🎸❤
Thanks for the in depth response! So if I’m looking for a guitar with a Floyd, the 1000 is pretty much the way to go? Always wanted a kahler but I’ve read many conflicting reviews and comparisons.
The FRT 1000 is the way to go. Best wishes my friend 🤜💥