This Is The Electric Ford E-Transit & I Drive It For The First Time!
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From spending the entire day in a diesel van to just watching the movement of this, I can already see how much more smooth and comfortable this is. Beautiful
that probably feels like a sports car after old diesel van 💀
Can't wait to refresh my fleet with these! We don't go far, so don't need a big battery. We come back to the same spot every night. Just need to get the price down and the availability up!
27:20 that is actually pretty normal for Europe. Lots of canals and rivers in Europe and the skippers take their cars with them on the boat
This episode: The Three Stooges Go To Deutschland.
Wonder if they were aware of nasty German speed cameras - my last trip through that country brought two letters with least desired kind of face mugs
@@mtumasz Blitzer.de pro App and chill
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I was really wondering what this post was about when I first started watching this video… Now I understand 😂
The motor position killed it. Guess they didn’t have time to redesign platform for BEV.
In the snow, the front engine/front wheel drive Transit (Ecoblue) is even with decent and new winter tires just not very good. This might be better.
I saw on of these on the streets in New York like 2 or 3 weeks ago. It was white with black trim like most Transits, and no graphics, with the only clue being the "E-Transit" badge on the back. I had to do a triple-take because I didn't know they were on the streets in the US yet!
Pretty sure you need to be able to have a commercial account with Ford. That means you own 5 or more of their vehicles. AutoLine Daily has had some discussions with their folks about it if memory serves.
@@skyemalcolm I don't know about a commercial account, but you would certainly need to go through a commercial dealer. Having never dealt with one it's unclear if you actually need to be a business or anything special, or if the dealership would still sell to a private individual. Just poking around Ford's website it looks like I can configure and order an E-Transit for about $52K...
@@Smidge204 Could be maybe you can just order one. From what I understood you do need to be an existing commercial customer.
Here is the interview I referenced earlier the link to it in case you wanna learn everything there is to know about Ford’s strategy for this vehicle. th-cam.com/video/-feknbnozLc/w-d-xo.html
@@skyemalcolm It’s available to order right now through an EV certified dealer in the US. I just built one online and it has the option to complete an order with my dealer that delivered my lightning.
Yeah they've been out for a few months actually, you order one now.
The rear engine and suspension height (spring perch) is a show stopper for any potential camping/boondocking vanlife/rv type builds.
Lol….. this special ford transit isn’t built for off-road or anything remote to it! Just like many other vans.
I was considering one for work, but the engine placement really killed it for me too. I can't seem to find much info on how they perform fully loaded.
Search Smedley Plumbing for a series of good videos on etransit real world use, including fully loaded range test with, I think 2,000lbs of gear.
@@davidmenasco5743 Thanks, that is the first channel i thought about when I was looking. :)
Come visit the Ford factory in the USA right outside Kansas City Missouri (Claycomo) that is making the E-Transit (in addition to the ICE powered Transit vans and F150 trucks). You may even be able to get special guided tour if you talk to your Ford Pro contacts.
Kyle, the E-Transit borrows the 68 kWh Mach-E standard range pack, rear motor, and on-board charger. Basically they just shoehorned the components from the Mach-E into the E-Transit to save on engineering costs. That might be why the motor hangs down so low (it's designed for the Mach-E ride height?). It's the same 96S3P NMC chemistry pack made by LG Chem, charge curve seems the same as the Mach-E with that initial timed peak before dropping down. Pretty sure you could swap the packs between an E-Transit and a Mach-E standard range RWD and it would work. Also did you not try the "expand" button with the 4 arrows to get full-screen CarPlay? That works on Mach-E now.
Which is good for the service purposes... But. The E-Transit price here, almost 75 000 euros, is just outrageous! about 20 000 eur more than the normal Ecoblue. Would it sell here, I think not. Even salesmen are sort of reluctant, or maybe they are just depressed of the world situation...
27:17 That little red car being loaded onto the barge is most likely the captain of the ship. Many husband/wife teams. When the arrive for unloading, they take their little car and go into town to eat, shop, etc.; get a hotel room, etc.
Raise it 4 inches, give it all wheel drive, make sure it has a 6ft. 2-inch interior, cover the entire floor with a "thin" battery that will yield a 400-500 mile range, then it will become the most popular RV conversion van ever.
Lovely machine, we should have more of these in the US and not that many pick up trucks, but I guess we are in love with life style more than practicality
A comment I'd like to make on all your reviews, since you are so into charging... If EV makers started to have better USB-c ports, specifically at least one or two 100 watt USB-c PD 3.0 , a laptop - in addition to a tablet or phone - could be charged directly from that port - no adaptor needed. Would be great for people using the car or truck as a work area, greatly reducing bulk in the cabin and the need for a household plug.
The F150 lightning no longer starts at under $50k for anyone in any specification. The price went way up, presumably because the price of Lithium has sharply increased.
This Van is sweet thank you for all your videos!
Looks awesome by the way there should be heaps of storage under the seats that’s what it’s like in our ice transit
Now it is time to beat Sabine Schmitz’s lap of the Nurnburgring in a Transit !!! 😂
I wish she could be the one to pilot it to a new record 😢
Loving these episodes. Clean production and very informative. Almost like I am test driving this! Ford is planning to bring the eTransit to Australia.
Freeboard is the tendancy of the wind's trying to blow a van or boat sideways. It was a big problem with the early VW bus and Ford Econoline van. Automakers have compensated with better suspension designs, but the best countermeasure for freeboard is having a heavy battery pack under the floor. It means the electric version holds the road in severe crosswinds much better than the ICE version of the same van.
time to sell the sprinter and buy the long e-transit for van life 😂 see you on the overlanding channel
@27:18 the skipper is putting his car on deck. Ready to move on to the next port of call. Most inland barges carry at least one car.
The no skidplate thing is because full size vans generally are not engineered for any sort of off road capability. The Sprinter is fairly compromised for that, as is this.
I hope to start seeing these everywhere.
Wow. This is impressive and thanks for the review.
Are you sure about the towing capacity? 750kg in Europe is the switch point between unbraked and braked trailers so is normally greater for braked ones. It doesn’t make sense that the 750kg you quoted would require a braked trailer.
That might be linked to the theoretical maximum of 3500 kilo for the entire combination of van+cargo+tow. That is the max weight for the B driver license. If you go above that weight your should get a C drivers license (for semi trucks).
With my Tesla I reduce my travel times in town on average about 20% because of the better acceleration without exceeding the speed limit. The 20% massively adds to productivity of any delivery person making an electric delivery vehicle almost mandatory to say nothing of the operating costs which you’ve already mentioned.
I find that number to strain credulity.
Do you live in an area of 60 mph roads with endless red lights that are exactly a quarter mile apart?
@@xiaoka thanks for your comment. Firstly I am talking about driving in town where traffic lights are a factor. Second, I get my 20% number from the Google map estimate of my arrival time which I can usually cut by about 20% although sometimes it may be less.
On the roadways where there are three lanes going each direction they will typically be a turning lane at the intersection that has parked cars on the opposite side of the street. If that lane is empty, I can pull into that lane and be across the intersection before the car is waiting at the light I’ve got a car length allowing me to safely gain one or two blocks lead on everyone that was previously behind me. I’ve never yet had anyone even get halfway across the intersection before I am completely across the intersection having passed everyone. I accelerate up to a typical driving speed of everyone behind me and look at them all rattling along a block or so behind me.
@@colingenge9999 Typical telsa redlight racer.
If you ever do a Retro show, seek out a running eStar Van. Aluminium chassis and body, A123 based packs, beautifully styled.
Last one I heard of was running around SF Bay Area some time back.
this one looks to be a short wheelbase 130 inch model you can tell by where the rear fenders are located when they are that close to that up and down seem its a short wheel base the med length model has 15 inches or so spread from that up and down seam
Great video Kyle! Why would Ford put the motor on the ground like that? Great observation
The motor is in-line with the wheels and has to fit under the standard low load floor. A smaller diameter motor would have more ground clearance but do most van customers really care as long as the motor's aluminum casting can handle the impacts from road debris? This generation e-transit doesn't have the range or 4wd for overlanding so I don't think many people would take it off road.
ICE Platform.
City use, won’t matter much.
It’s an EV Conversion, professionally done.
The VW Tuareg is advertised on Canadian TV. Wouldn't be the first time certain vehicles are available in Canada but not the U.S. As far as the effect of Wind Resistance, TFL truck/TFLEV ran a Ford Lightning with camper up to Prudhomme Bay, Alaska.
I test drive one here in California. Drives well but the 125 mile range is a deal breaker. They need to increase the range and then it would be viable for a daily driver or travel van
This is what the postal service needs with right hand drive
I wished I had a good calculation that would show carbon reduction per kwh of battery in different use cases. If batteries are a limiting factor in building more units, how would we get the most bang for our battery deployment. If you look at it simplistically a van driven 100 mile a day replacing a 17-mpg ice engine vs a Tesla Model 3 driven 40 miles a day replacing a 35-mpg gas car, the electric van will replace 3x more gas consumed than the Model 3. Any way you look at it these vans will be a game changer provided Ford makes them reliable.
Ford and Rivian are locked in a battle for fleet supremacy.
Rivian is purely West Coast fair weather but I agree pointing out the drive motor wholly exposed is a no no big time. Good pointing out a lack of heat pump too.
100K subs. Congratulations. 🤙🖖
3500 kg full mass and 750 kg braked trailer is not because this van is weak, it's just because you'd need to have a different driver's license category for more weight here in Europe. Most businesses will be alright with the usual B license but for hauling more you'd need C or C1 or have C1/C1E if you need a bigger trailer. That would also need the dealership to issue another documentation for the car allowing that so basically nobody will do that and drive on a B license.
Actually it is 4250kg for electric commercial vehicles and 750kg for trailers.
@@Scrap-press no, MAM of 4250 kg Combination 4250 kg IS 3500 tractor and 750 trailer. Doesn't matter if it is electric or not.
@@PerkeleKeyboardist B license is 4250kg for electric vehicles and you can tow up to 750kg. If you want to tow heavier trailers the car+trailer's combined mass cannot be higher than 4250kg
@@Scrap-press the car can't be more than 3500 kilos for B license in ANY case, per Council of the European Union Directive 91/439/EEC that hasn't been amended since 2008. Openly speaking, the number 4250 kg is not mentioned in the EU at all, the only numbers for B license are 3500 kg and 750 kg. And yeah, there are no exceptions to any regulations in driving made for electric vehicles at all.
@@PerkeleKeyboardist It might not be the case in your country but in Germany, Austria and Switzerland they adjusted the rules for commercial BEVs to 4250kg Which is legal due to EU directive 2018/645
Hope Doug doesn’t mind you borrowing his intro lol. Good review! Excited to see more of these on the street
I need one that can work as a RV and it needs to be able to tow a trailer for trade shows/construction projects. So it needs a larger battery and more towing capability.
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Are you going to Norway for car testing this year? Lots of electric vans.
It would be a great USPS LLV replacement. Most city routes are between 5 and 20 miles a day, but tons of stop and starts.
EVs are great for stop and starts whereas gas is very inefficient at it but great on the highway.
Great video
That is a catl 18/650 lfp pack. Jim Farley said so on a recent video with sandy monroe
Considering the target market, 200km range and the low! hanging rear motor will probably be ok. Driveability, maneuverability, and charge speed will define it.
Nice to have a heat pump. I'm guessing not there. The electrical efficiency would improve range. Probably a deal breaker for me. Since it's a delivery van or campervan, a thermal barrier with the cargo bay seems warranted with air tight door. Very incremental improvement by these legacy companies. Its their market share to lose.
No skid plate a problem? Did you forget you are standing in Germany, where potholes are a psychological affront to the national psyche? I have watched (working from home) a pothole repair in Germany. It took three days. It was like a root-canal for the road. Deep digging to the root of the problem, compaction of layers for days, and final finishing layers of asphalt compacted in every layer. That pothole was dead, unlike the undead zombie potholes we tolerate in the US.
The USA sucks at repairing potholes at least my city. They got rid of them but now there’s little bumps on the road lol
Curious to see what the Sprinter EV brings to the table
We have it - the E-sprinter is (or was) with 41kWh battery and 70 Kw engine... But somehow the importer lost the price list from its site. There seems to be some examples on sale, though. Fiat has also one called E-Ducato but it really is more fossil-aged thing than the Sprinter. Car manufacturers are so conservative - and that is the reason some people like Elon Musk can manage well on that game.
Ah you gentlemen never had to experience the 55mph freeway limit from the 80s. Actually surprised they have not reinstated that speed as it does save a LOT of fuel.
Max speed for vans, trailers and large vehicles is 50mph on a roads in the UK. Speed restrictors set at 56mph.
True but it only works if people obey it, and once the gas shortage from the oil embargo was over, nobody did.
That low-slung motor without a skid plate is a disaster waiting to happen, especially with a commercial vehicle. Deliveries out of town or use as a vanlifer are going to involve some poor roads.
Totally agree, great opportunity for an aftermarket skid plate. Skid plates are not hard to make, but bulky to ship and tedious to install.
course running into some thing. damage to the charge port will be a problem, the other problem with the charge point in the front, is that most vans will back in, since drivers can see traffic easier
My only comment is you all are making me miss Germany. You all are going to a lot of the places I went to when I lived there. Other than my home town Germany was my favorite place I've lived & I have lived in a lot of places.
If this vehicle was affordable, I’d buy it. I imagine they will be pricey.
I'm wondering if the lack of a frunk is because they plan to offer a front motor. One of the cool things about the European market Transit (with ICE) is that you can buy it with front, rear, or all wheel drive.
I hope Ford makes more of these Ford E-Transit’s.
The current one available in Canada only comes with one battery size of 67 kWh. Will the big battery be coming in 2023 I wonder?
Does this have the semi-trailing arm independent suspension in the rear? Off-throttle drift?
Pretty sure they are an independent rear of some sort
Yeah I have currently 2018 transit 250 and I was looking forward for full electric but daily I drive around 200 miles to work and back so it’s not for me in this gas mileage which is pretty sad coz my thought was will be similar to f150 lightning .well hopefully sooner than later they improve this issue so I’ll be looking forward to get one.👌👍
Are you willing to pay out the ass for it? Lol
@@samusaran7317 -I think with current gas prices and who know how much higher will go electric will be good option if they decide at least battery package like current lighting and if lightning start at 40k so how much more transit can go🤔.
@@tomaszelibed6664 I'll believe that 40k when I see it. They were projecting the rivian to cheap as well but they already have had a huge price jump. Very few got a "decent" deal.
They really dont make sense unless youre utilizing it through the likes of a job site. Just an opinion though....
I drive one of these daily about 250 miles total round trip for an ice cream company, so I’d be eager to see full range with load and ac to see how it does.
When will the E-Transit be circumnavigating the Nurburgring? You might want to swap out those eco tires firsty.
Why does Amazon use the strange looking rivian and how about this for the USPS? ( British version)
I’d want a second bench.
Re Costs; aren’t these shipped to Turkey and back during build process?
the engine does have a skid plate in the gas powered version only an aero panel
🤗 I drove FORD VANS for decades…for family and work 🤗 and now I am retired…but I would be totally 💯 enjoying this except for my own STEREO SYSTEM…WAS ALWAYS A MUST 😁😎😍😍😍
Also love the center charge port and I would love💚 it if FORD WOULD USE TESLA’s charging …And I think it could happen 👍🤗😍😍😍
The charge port in the front is OKI would rather it where you normally put the gas in it What happens if something hits it or if you hit something
Hi. Do make a video where you compare ford e transit and Mercedes esprinter :)
we have about 15 to 20 around our dealerships in northeast ohio
I don’t usually bother up voting these types of vids but the bee chasing you got it :)
If the ones for America are made in Turkey and imported as commercial vehicles, they will be subject to the chicken tax. That would explain the price bump. They used to add seats to the rear of Transits and take them out upon import, but the US threatened a ~$1B fine for such skirting.
Canadian federal Gov't just added up to $10k cdn rebate for commercial electric vans
I'll definitely be looking into building a reefer delivery van for my farm
Charging ports belong front and center. Great job Ford!
I suspect this is impractical for service vehicle to be used daily, if you put shelves and tools and parts and then you wouldn't be able to drive half a day without running out of power. I am sure electric is the wave of the future but they have a long long ways to go
Before buying an electric vehicle, check with your insurance company. The insurance companies already know the cost of a replacement battery in case of a mishap will cost almost as much as the vehicle, and your insurance will skyrocket even higher.
It's Awesome having the weight down low and having it ride and handle so well, can we fill the roof with solar and get some charging during the day?
I have a transit van here in Colorado on the western slope, I took out most of the seats to have a bed for camping, it rides terrible with out weight in the back and in the wind I don't like to drive it, I put sand bags in the back plus all my camping stuff just to get a better ride.
Yo while you're in Europe you gotta drive a Solaris (polish) electric bus and a Renault Zoe 50.
Not enough range for a cargo van
I want one
They should have put the charge port somewhere else. I think it is a bad place for it in case of an accident, in that it will very easily disable battery charging.
The accident would also disable the vehicle in that case.
C'mon Kyle - time to turn one of those into a camper/ sprinter!
I was at the EA station in Santa Maria, CA and someone rolled up to charge their Winnebago E-Transit!! I was so excited but I got test driver vibes so I didn't bother them.
Focus rs in the back there?????
Good
Curios about realistic mileage , Cause I really want to get a van to convert it but i prefer an EV as I enjoy them much more. But they state 120 miles, but it does have about 68KWH , most other cars can hit about 200 miles with that , so wondering if Ford is being humble on its range. I mean if this could hit 200 miles I would totally invest on it
Probably not, because it is not the most aerodynamic thing in the world
My work bought one. Mid roof model. Basically a useless van. Ford messed up on this one. Realistic range it only gets 85 miles per charge though it says 110 on the dash
@@seaoforange88 How are you only getting 85 miles of range? Genuine question, as that is not much over 1mi/kWh. These guys were still getting over 2mi/kWh while going flat out at 65mph.
@@seaoforange88 That's perfect range for local deliveries with a lot of stop-and-go. This space has a lot of up-and-coming competitors. Definitely not a long-range hauler.
Go look at Smedley Plumbing youtube channel, does range test geared out with over 1000lbs of plumbing gear
Nice review and you ar e right, the comparison to the F150 shows that the pricing is weird. Also 68kWh for such a van is a joke, that will in real life have at least 300-350Wh/km and beyond the moon if above 100kmh. So realistically less than 200km range for 60k? Makes no sense whatsoever to me.
Tell cord to make these with a 250+ mile range
I want to make a camper van out of one
I’m sure Ford did their market research and learned customers need just this; 120-240 miles/day last mile deliveries.
For city contractors it’s plenty.
@@ben3989 except America is vast and small rural cities surround our major cities. It’s very common for a major metro to have a dozen or more towns 40-80 miles out. Can’t even run 60 miles both ways to fix a leaking faucet, (plumber) or refil Freon on a commercial AC(HVAC) or re-key a door lock(locksmith) in its current form it’s pretty impractical
@@rossr6616 I think Ford did some homework-- say that average miles / day is somewhere around 69 for these
I feel like all the Fords in Europe are much nicer and better looking than U.S. Great video guys! Keep it going 💪🏻
been that way a long time
Funny why would the eTransit need a front truck/frunk? The ENTIRE vehicle IS storage!
When will tesla s plaid roadtrip will happen !
I can't believe how hard they cornered and braked that van on those tiny tires. Race van ftw, lol
Can we talk about the blue 3 door ST or RS at the beginning of the video? The stuff we can’t get here……
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You actually drove past my house!
that motor on the bottom seems aerodynamically incorrect?
maybe?
ok Ford, do a 135KW battery extended body base for Leisure Travel vans to be able to offer a EV RV, yes!
There’s a lot of bruhaha about the rivian Amazon van but the e transit will be the van that Amazon delivery partners lease/buy
Have you seen Sabine Schmitz racing a Transit around the Nürburgring?
R I P
@@kasio22B yes. But doesn't make her life less impressive. Go have a look.
LFP battery would make sense in a van like this. Full charge everyday and no need for fast power.
They really could have cleaned up under the hood and added a frunk, the whole thing is practically empty!
I love eating at Ikea!
Can it have a camping HVAC mode? Can you program it to maintain a temp for hours on end without being plugged in?
Look at me! My arms are WAY OUT HERE NOW! Everybody look, I don’t know what to do with my arms again!!!
maybe test drive it with a load on it see how much it changes the range with more stop and goes
Did you have the meatless meatballs at IKEA?