HOW IS THIS POSSIBLE? TESLA Drives Up an ICY HILL
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we tried this with Model S when dual motors first released. total control in harsh conditions. Tesla AWD is not just performance, but safety, and efficiency. 3 in 1. No other ICE AWD is like that.
I agree !
Audi Quattro.
I drive my Volvo XC60 D4 2017 AWD on snow and ice, no problem.
>when you've been too poor for german AWD Cara
It shows
@@GodKing804 How can you be to poor and buy a Tesla?
For a canadian, this has been achievable for years with any kind of cars, you just actually need good tires. ;) having actualy winter tires would go a long way though.
the real good point where Tesla actually differentiate itself is in the way it "brakes" with regenerative breaking using the 4WD to balance the slippyness. So going down is where the real video would become interesting (but it's probably a good idea not to get crazy without actual winter tires.
People don't understand that tires like Blizzaks make ANY vehicle awesome in snow. Now put a Tesla on real winter tires and they are Awesome +1 * Infinity.
Yup the impressive is the control down, going up if your smooth generally doable, but down can be very iffy.
from one Canadian to another... so so true!! our subaru with snows does this.. up and down all day long.
@@KOFIV77 lol, chopper discoverer MS go burh.
I think this video is a great example of good traction control though!
My man's running the stock Pilot Sport 'All Seasons' it looks like, I'm not sure you could get much further from a winter tyre really. :)
I run the Pilot Sport 4 S as it rarely gets to the kind of weather that needs winter tyres in the UK, now those are absolutely horrible in cold conditions!
Wow. That’s impressive! But with conditions like that, I would be afraid of driving on the road and not able to stop or turn. Drive safe
Luckily the roads were fine.
@@TommyLGarage so im looking at this video because my Y was not handling the icy roads last night, it seemed like other cars were driving fine, but mine spazzed out a couple of times, some taking turns, others driving in a straight line. I drove very cautiously and even still was sliding at times. what settings do you have it on?
Model S 85 Rwd & Model Y Dual owner here… never have gotten stuck here in NY. Nothing but confidence when driving these cars safely with the proper tire set up.
Keep doing what your doing TLG. Next big TH-camr!!!! I’m sure if it!
Thanks!!!
Nice video! It's amazing how well the car grips on ice. I just made a video showing acceleration and stopping distances on an ice road on our lake. I didn't think the Model Y would do as well as it did, but it is very reassuring knowing that it works well in cold climates. Thanks for taking the time to grab your camera and share this!
Amazing! I can't wait for mine to be built! Keep up the good videos
Awesome! Thank you!
I think this works because of: good tires + lots of weight + instantaneous traction control you get with an EV. I normal car can't adjust the torque to each wheel hundreds of times per second. The computer is precisely calculating how much to turn each wheel at all times, and they respond instantly.
Very true
This can be true if you have electrical motor on every wheel. In every other aspect traction control must be like in every other car.
Tesla's traction control system is mesmerizing. It's not anything like a normal car. Quite honestly it's the best in the world.
@@planed1978 Yeah, having 4 el. motors is even better than 2.
You can see how the wheels all spin independently and at different speeds .
Lol my jaw dropped when the car started to slide!!! Glad it stopped and didn't hit the curb or your other car shown there. Luckily we didn't get the snow that was expected yesterday, i'm in NYC. Keep up the good work bro
You and me both! I would have had another insurance claim on my hands :)
@@TommyLGarage Lol agreed! If you ever need a LR MY in Red for a photoshoot, let me know ;)
This happened to me a few days ago. I was pulling our Tesla up our inclined driveway (fairly steep as kids love sledding on it)... I didn't think anything of it, as it was raining. Turns out it was actually freezing rain, becuase I stepped out of the car in the garage, and went to open the trunk. I stepped onto the driveway, and slid all the way down the driveway... The whole time I was thinking, how the hell did I make it up the driveway.. Like another poster said, I'm pretty sure because the ice wasn't flat, it was very rough. But I needed to put my X-grippers on my shoes to make it up my driveway on foot.
Still impressive
@@TommyLGarage some summer tires have good ice grip.
That was fun to watch. Can't beat the electronic control of each wheel independently. I'm in the south-west corner of Canada (Pacific Northwest climate) with little snow but lots of black ice, wet ice and hills. In a half century of driving my Jeep is the first vehicle I've owned with any kind of electronic traction control. My other vehicle is an older small pickup with nada.
Old cars might be cool and all but technology now is amazing. Electric is the future.
I totally agree!
Your neighbors must be endlessly entertained with your winter antics! Another fun video!
Thanks!!!!
Amazing! The electric awd is so much more precise than a mechanical awd.
Yes !!
It's phenomenal. I've got Michelin Crossclimates on my X and it simply has to be seen to be believed. Got a steep driveway that used to occasionally defeat my old XC90, with the Tesla I hardly even notice it.
@@a.ham.9856 Totally agree. Had Michelin Cross Climates on my BMW 335d and they were superb. Will be putting them on my new m3 long range in the next couple of weeks!
This is actually impressive. Thank you for sharing.
Thanks for watching!
Did the same with our Volvo two days ago. But with one difference: The ice was very wet and smooth. It was totally impossible to walk there at all. But the car just, no problem at all.
wet ice has a lot of grip. Dry ice is super slippery.
@@TommyLGarage Actually it’s the opposite. Cold dry ice is pretty grippy. Wet ice is extremely slippery in comparison.
In this video it looked like the temp was around freezing judging by your tyres looking wet so definitely very slippery.
If it was significantly colder your tires would make better contact with the over because there would be no water between.
The worst is when the ice is in the process of melting. Then you need studded tires.
@@TommyLGarage lol you would think a Canadian would know the difference
Yep. Wet ice is the worst. Coming from a Finn.
@@gszah ditto coming from an Alaskan.
Great video! Off topic: Do you know if you can still put the Konig tire chains on the 295's? I love the look of your wheels, but concerned you can't fit any chains on the rear. Thanks!
I'm not sure unfortunately. I don't see a reason why not. There is plenty of clearance
Its because Tesla's electric motors have far superior traction control compared to ICE AWD. Electric motors can be so many times more delicate and fast responding to slippery conditions because of electric motor reponse being so much faster than ICE engine response.
Great point!
Wrong, that’s absolutely false, it all has to do with software and ABS, I’ve seen tesla and many other EVs like rivian off-road and it was a disaster compared to Land Rover which barely was affected with street sommer tires.
@@alanmay7929 Advise you to do some real research and some real life tests, rather than TH-cam science. There's a reason why Teslas AWD is superior to most ICE AWD cars in roller tests. Off road conditions are a different matter and has more to do with differential dynamics, ride height and suspension setups.
@@chrisc7610 tesla awd is not superior to most ICE awd, you’re welcome. Off-road conditions are not different at all, it’s still the same systems that are used there.
@@chrisc7610 there are regular Subaru or Audi going off-road and there tons of videos particularly in Russia.
Depends 70% on the tires and 30% on the traction control. I was too lazy this year to switch to the winter tires and instead use All Weather. They wear a bit faster than All Season but are excellent for snow and decent with ice. That hill only requires maintaining traction going up or down.
But good tires are indeed needed for maintaining such traction
@@TommyLGarage I agree! No but required!
Ive plowed snow in Pennsylvania every winter for the past 15 years so I’m very very familiar with driving on snow and ice. That’s extremely impressive that any vehicle could make it up that without studded tires or chains.
Thanks. I agree!
Hey quick question… do you recommend ppf wrapping your Tesla MYP, or certain areas?
Yes. Front is a must since it’s flat. Bumper at the very least
Wow! That's amazing! Good info for Canadians.
Yes, winter tires are a huge factor; but traction control, or lack of it, is a huge factor too.
I remember in Toronto I was driving on a multi-lane highway exchange that had a slight tilt to it, called banking; but it was totally iced, and the banking was a death sentence to traffic. All but one of the 4 or 5 lanes were blocked by cars that could not proceed forward. I was first in the only open lane, but a big sports car ahead and on the lane to my right was drifting into my lane. The driver was trying one miniscule attempt at a time to engage forward gear, and with each attempt the back of the car simply moved a few more inches to the left. After the fourth attempt, failed and its motion stopped, I hit the gas and flew forward past the poor fella. I was driving a Chrysler K-car, with front drive, which I bought precisely for that reason.
Of course, even better than having traction where the weight of the engine is, is having distributed weight and all-wheel traction.
And even better than that is when traction control is intelligent.
Tesla has amazing traction control
The traction of the car is amazing, its able to find grip in difficult situations. But, beside this, you have four contact points, not like you with two feet on the ground, the ice is not perfect, like on a skating park, you can see the asphalt imperfections trough the ice, there are points where most of 4x4 will find grip, Tesla does a very good job in this situation. I live on a hill, most of the winters when snow melts it freeze in the night. With my Subaru Forester with winter tires, I never had any problems. Even more, a few times I went up the hill while people had troubles walking up the hill. One time I went up just like normal, did not feel a thing, was all ice under my tires, I went to school with the kids, I've got back home in a few minutes, and I could not stop the car going down, only 1 meter from an electricity plot, I used some salt in the front of my gate. It was so slippery that I could not stand on my feet when I walked down the car. So, cars with good transmissions and good tires can do that. But, again, Tesla is doing a very good job, and the two motors helps a lot in this case.
Very well said. Thanks for explaining it
since the Tesla was in the garage, the 4 season tires were not at outside temperature and it most likely help too, the rubber would have been harder if stayed outside over night and would have give you way less grip
I`m living in a place where even winter tire become hard, was -35 celcius last night and it`s normal for us, it`s part of the reason winter tires are mandatory in some canadian provinces
Don`t get me wrong, the car is impressive and I'm going Tesla eventually, but people need to understand that in winter, the tires are the most important aspect of your traction and it is why there's so many incident in united state when you just have a little amount of winter condition. Peoples are not prepared and run on 4 seasons while keeping the same pace as in summer condition...
Very well said!
You are so right, I was driving between Sumpter, SC and Goldsboro, NC and 10 people slid off the road in a little snowstorm, like 1 in. crisp snow.
What all-season tires are you using? Do you think I would get similar performance with the 19" Continental Procontact RX grand touring all-season tires that came standard on my LR Model Y?
Michelin AS4
@@TommyLGarage Thanks Tommy! I see they will fit the Gemini wheels on my LR MY. The snow performance looks much better than the Continental ProContacts that came with the car and the price is similar. When it's time to replace the tires I will consider AS4s. Thank you!
I just got one of my tires repaired today. I had run over a staple. It was only $20 even though they had to fight the acoustic foam and glue inside the tire.
So I’m assuming the Michelin all season pilot sport tires are great for most snowy conditions?
Yes. So far they've been amazing!
I would've love to see you try with the other cars to know the difference. Going up an icy hill is a rear wheel job because the weight is concentrated by gravity on that axis so a FWD car is gonna have a real hard time going up.
I did. Check out my precious videos
@@TommyLGarage oh nice! I'll check it out
But a old VW bug would have no problem
Wow! The Tesla is amazing on that icy surface. You're are also amazing, too. Thanks for sharing 👍
Awww thanks!
My guy I only watched this video to watch your excellent ice balance skills I would’ve been on the floor laid out
Haha thanks !!
I was just thinking about your snow trip video the other day. I went to stratton VT with my MYP and i recently got the 19 gemini with snow tires. It was amazing.
Glad you liked it!!
Mmmmm, yeah… in Norway we’ve done this for decades in RWD Volvos, FWD VWs and everything in between…. Even on ice there is SOME grip. It’s all about throttle control. But yeah, electric AWDs definitely make it more accessible to most people, like Quattro used to before.
Interesting!
Really great traction!
Teslas AWD is impressive!
It really is!
There are zero awd cars that wouldn’t climb that
@@mattbrew11 🤣
2022 Tesla Model 3 Long range dual motors AWD. Lives Colorado Springs Colorado on the foothills near the Air Force Academy. We had a snowstorm today about 6 to 8 inches. AWD Traction Control and Regen Breaking got me down a 5% grade with relative ease. it did elevate my heart rate only because I was unsure on how the vehicle was going to perform. This is a new vehicle for me and now armed with this confidence as you mentioned, driving for Uber fulltime will be treated like any other day. I tell people all the time in weather events you have to drive with what you feel comfortable driving do not over drive your car. Just because the car can do fancy things doesn't make it weatherproof. Every scenario is different. Thank you for this video. Earned a like and sub!
Thanks!! Glad you’re seeing what I’m seeing :)
what kind of all season tires you put on the car?
Michelin AS4
I think the imperfections in the ice (you most definitely felt them when sliding on your feet) helped the car’s traction (along with the car’s weight). If you were on clean & smooth ice, your tesla and your other suv parked outside near your garage would have become one (a silly accident). Once the static grip let’s go, the momentum would have been hard to stop. You were lucky my friend.
Luck seems to be on my side! :)
Weight is not going to help on ice. It will help on soft surfaces to let the tree treads sink into the surface. On ice the only thing that matters is the frictional coefficient of the tires. He was sliding on his feet because his shoes are not as good as the tires on the car.
@@audunskilbrei8279 Yes. Also, only the rear wheels lock in Park - as can be seen when the car is sliding backwards. That creates nasty situations. In Montreal as I parked in a similar uphill situation, the car (1964 Dodge!) would begin sliding in Park (rear wheels locked using parking brake, front wheels free to rotate) as soon as I would release the brake pedal (brake pedal locks all four wheels). Lot's of fun (futility?) in Montreal winters, driving front engine rear wheel drive open differential ICE cars with drum brakes.
@@izsakitt3711 if you turn on the parking brake (by long pressing park button) it locks the front wheels too 🙂
@@audunskilbrei8279 That's not 100% correct; weight puts pressure on ice which heats it up and melts it. That's how ice skates work. You can try this yourself.
lol love your Tesla videos
Thanks!!!!
Great to see the tesla traction control at work. Thanks for video
It’s amazing!
Many thanks for sharing this video. I live in CT so it gets like that here as well 😁
Thanks for visiting!
it seems the traction control programmers have done a really good job!!
Btw your Tesla looks amazing imo 👍
I agree !
You are correct about the amazing electronic stability control inherent in an electric vehicle, particularly a Tesla.....to a point. There's nothing magical about Tesla's traction. The tires have only a finite amount of traction, and once the break-away friction is exceeded, the Tesla will behave in the same manner as any other car: it will be an accelerating sleigh ride. As it is, I suspect you could have easily pushed the Tesla downhill using two fingers on that driveway.
In other words: be very careful with your beautiful vehicle, lest it become a $60K sled, with unpredictable end results.
Good call on the sled!
Which tires exactly do you have on the car? I know you say all season, but what's the brand name and model?
Literally 7:42
Michelin Pilot all season 4
@@TommyLGarage Thank you!
OK, THATS IT . I was the one a few videos back that said I drove in vt with the stock tires and they SUCKED. Thats it, im going right now and buying your exact tire set up. im sold lol. thanks for this reassurance
You’ll love them!
Child: "Where is Poppa?" Mom: "Out in the driveway filming the Tesla go up a hill again" Thanks again-impressive
lmao...seems fairly accurate actually
I also own the same kind of Model Y. It has four wheel drive with M + S tires (mud and snow). Teslas are known to have superior tracking control. They have the best programmers in the world.
It’s remarkable!
I live in Portugal so I don’t know why I’m watching this ! 😂
Reassuring though !
Should be good for pulling the SeaDoo up a slippery slipway !
Portugal!!
Winter tires should be always better in winter than all season. And smaller rims in case yopu hit the curb. A lot of ice takes lot of salt to melt but if you mix salt with sand that makes your grip much better. Nice vid.
Good point!
You have become a tesla fan boy! It's OK, It's a spectacular vehicle 😂
I never expected it :)
Its not ! boying" he is just telling the truth that tesla makes amazing cars. It just can entusiast that havent even owned a tesla that hate on them and cant admit that they are great cars.
You are a riot! Love your facial expressions.
Glad you enjoyed
Your rt rear seems buffed out. How are things going..... insurance wise?
Haven't gotten it fixed yet
lol, very funny 😆 glad your camera was not behind your car as it was sliding back.
Glad I wasn’t behind hehe
It’s also the amount of pressure exerted on the contact patch. 4200lbs of model Y on not a very large contact patch which means very high pressure and can grip better on the ice. In comparison to your body weight (150-200lbs) over a fairly large contact patch (your two feet)
Very good explanation! Thanks.
This is not correct. At least not in this case with studdless tires. If the car had studded tires then the weight would help push the studs into the ice and increase grip.
In this case the car is just hanging on frictional force. And while weight does increase the frictional force it also increases the breakaway force, the force that is trying to pull the car down the hill.
The equation would be like this (m*g*my*cos(incline))/(m*g*sin(incline)) where m = mass , g = gravity , my = frictional coefficient of the tires and incline = angle of hill. If this equation is greater or equal to 1 the car stays in place. if not it will start to slide.
You can see that the m and g are above and below the fractional stroke and will cancel out. This means that the mass does not matter. Only the my factor matters.
The my factor would ofcourse depend on you tires. Summer tires on ice will have a very low my factor. Your shoes probably has a low factor on ice which is why you couldn't walk up the hill while the car was able to get up(Of course the car has traction control and such which helps it make the most of it's traction. When you start sliding there's not much you can do).
I just want to find out what you did to shave 250 lbs off this car
Ice will melt under high pressure. It would be interesting to know if the tire exerted sufficient pressure for it to make contact with the pavement. Also, a spinning tire will scrape away the ice. The tire will warm as it spins. There's a lot going on that is not apparent to the observer.
@@Garrison169 surface pressure will be roughly the same as the pressure inside the tire, slightly higher but not much, which is not really that high. 2-3 atmospheres. It wont melt the ice.
I have a Tesla MYP as well but to one of the points below, the car is only one factor. Check out some of the Michelin winter tire videos to see how they engineer the sipes in their tires so that you can get this type of traction. I have the X Ice tires on 19” wheels and they are amazing. I need the better stopping distance (compared to the all season tires) as I’m in New England and plan to go to NH/VT to ski.
I suggest that you don’t push it too far on ice as I had a bad experience in a prior car where the temp drop below freezing while the rain changed to snow. That combination of wet snow over ice made it almost impossible to stop. Scary.
These tires are incredible
👍🏻 what all season tyres do you use?
Michelin pilot All Season 4
Astounding Tommy!
Brother,
These are the Michelin Pilot Sport All Season tires, right?
Did you lose much range using these tires compared to the stock tires?
I really enjoy the fun you're having with your toy! 😀
Cheers Mate!
Eric
@Sam & Colby Shorts sweet! Thx for clarification!
Cheers,
Eric
Yes PSA4 and I haven't checked the range loss but it's negligible
Winters tires 🛞 on or just all season?
When you got out of the car after stopping uphill, I kept thinking it was the dumbest idea. Then the car comes sliding down
Lol yup
Great video Tommy
Thanks!
What tires are you using
PS AS4
Which tires exactly?
As4
I just wanted to ask you a question about your model Y performance I have placed the order in same car I live in UK roads are not very good just wanted to ask you what do you think the ride quality I have driven long-range it ok but .. what people are talking about performance with the bigger wheels lower suspension The right might be harsh .. can you please reply to this message or make a video specially on the right quality maybe some rough road ..
Thank you
I think the ride quality is great. IT's sporty but not harsh
One of the best parts of owning a Tesla is its handling and AWD grip.
I agree!!
Are you sliding around with your Retro 4 Red Thunders?
I think so :)
I really didn't expect that. WOW!
What tires are on model Y?
Michelin pilot AS4
@@TommyLGarage thanks 😊
And you have non-studded winter tyres, amazing and impressive!
They’re actually all season tires
@@TommyLGarage You quickly reach the limit of what all-season tires will do; still amazing and impressive as a total system.
Very interesting video! But I think it's funny that you have so much time to grab a camera a film a bunch of stuff when you "don't have much time cause you have to take the kids somewhere." Every time we leave the house, we have 60 seconds to spare before we're late. 😆
Good point!
Nice work!
Me or the car? Hehe
Looks fun sliding down the hill. Lol 😂
For sure!
My 97 Buick did this up my very sleep driveway Friday night comingnback from snowboarding (wheels and tires from a car in the junkyard). My 2021 4wd F150 does in 2wd mode). My 2021 Mach-E GT does on Summer tires.
Tesla’s got some cool tech going on with their regen braking and acceleration. The way they’ve set it up, especially with the controls, is super impressive. You’re just driving, pressing pedals, but the car handles it so smoothly - it’s like magic. Tesla’s got this unique way of micro-managing the braking and driving, which is something you don’t really see in other cars. And yeah, great video!
Thanks for visiting !!!
Heavy car = big normal force = crush ice = big friction = drive up ice hill ♥️
Hhmm maybe
Yes, the physics of high pressure / a heavy car reducing the melting point of ice has generally not been mentioned as a factor in these comments. There are a few variables involved (e.g. pressure = car weight x tyre contact area, and how cold the ice was) but there is probably some beneficial effect of a heavy car, even if not to the extent of a skater's blade momentarily thawing the ice under it!
Did you enable the snow/sand option ?
No I did not
Nice mint Muska board in the Garage (y) - great video Tommy.
And it’s autographed by him too :)
@@TommyLGarage Nice one!
Chad Musk, hey hey, check this out:
Dude where do i get that pullover?
The north face :)
Nice work fun to watch
Thanks for watching!!
@@TommyLGarage Anytime - - Loving this Tesla TH-cam community!!!!!!
Awesome tracking control!
I agree!
What tires?
Michelin AS4
Thanks for the video in icy conditions. I have the model Y LR. Because of the weight of the vehicle, AWD, and anti slip features of Tesla, make the vehicle do what you show in the video. It is amazing with these vehicles can do in extreme weather.
Take care.
Glad to help
Just wondering if you still make the f30/f80 mud flaps, i sent you an email about it
Yes. Email me at got6speed @ gmail . Com
Seeing this makes me so happy that I bought a Model 3 Performance. I live in a harsh winter climate state and this as reassurance makes me feel warm inside
You’ll love it!!!
Love the art of your video 👍
THank you!
Just so SMOOTH and impressive!
...you're talking about my sweatshirt? :)
In Finland we have spiked rubbers so with those that hill would be easy to climb and even way steeper hills, though this is impressive that Tesla can do this ✊🏼
I was amazed too :)
Do you have summer tires?
No. All season
@@TommyLGarage which one?
Good tires, as well as a good car is very important in many situations. But a good driver
is the most important in all situations. The cars that are excellent in snow and ice are Subaru. Mercedes, and now Tesla. The KEY to driving in these conditions is never stop the tires from rolling, until you get to level ground, once the tires stop rolling you can’t turn or stop. On ice it’s the operator that makes the difference even with one of the three vehicles above.
I guess I'm a good driver :)
Is this all season or winter tires?
All season
@@TommyLGarage lol. I paused the video to type the comment and when I played the video you stated that. My bad.
That Subaru behind you would do just the same.
Hyundai..it's FWD so I doubt it
I wish you would have compared it to the Ford Escape for a good comparison!
Or a Honda CR-V!
lol, ok so u have ice. Good for you. Greetings from norway 😁
Hello there!
Love your videos, you are crazy 🤣
Thanks!!!
Amazing!
:)
Wow 😮! Perfekt 👌
:)
The same thing happened to me. But I live on a hill, so I had a pretty bad accident with my model 3.
Sorry to hear that.
Looks like I was close to having one myself
Were you using slip start?
No
Tire rubber is much more advanced than the rubber in your shoe 😊 I remember a Volvo going up a ski jump ramp. It’s not the Tesla, it’s the tire.
You’re right !
Tommy, does your Tesla have RWD-FWD slider in options (like one on Tyre Reviews chanel)? Maybe idea for a next vid on yt 😀
Nope. No slider
@@TommyLGarage Oh. Maybe they had to unlock something... they mentioned "track mode" I believe.
Lol when you slid it reminded me of frozone❄❤
Haha
Good job! 👏
Thanks! 😄 I appreciate you watching
I think you should factor in the center of gravity of the Tesla car compared to other cars as well, the car is well "situated" on a surface due to its relative low C.G. which to an extent increases it's "relative grip" over black ice...... torque too I believe is another aspect (when the car is moving up a slippery slope), the electric motor has "more" torque at lower speeds than an ICE engine.
That’s a good point!!
I like your fleece. Can you share where did you get it please ?
Sure. The North Face store.
Very interesting. Thanks.
Thanks a watching!!!
Despite the obvious risks, quite impressive! 👍
Thanks!