The problem isn't that she's unlikable. It's that she is framed to be likable. The writers really want you to root for her even when she's disrespectful, cold, and arrogant ALL THE TIME.
I don’t think the narrative will ultimately vindicate her attitude. A character like this can’t be sustained on arrogance alone, especially given Galadriel canonically outgrew her youthful arrogance. I believe she will be humbled, probably by stumbling into some horrible trap that she would’ve seen if she’d be less singleminded and would listen to anyone else’s advice.
....yes, I agree, but the problem is, it won't be believable because she's way too LOW at this point TO be redeemed. This is the Kylo Ren situation again. They had the dude murder his own father at Rey's eyes, then spend 2 movies blowing up planets, killing and maiming her friends, trying to kill her two mentors (Leia and Luke) and making MULTIPLE attemptsnto kill her - and then expected us not to LAUGH when they have them kiss??? It's writing for complete idiots 101: nobody with a functioning brain cell could BUY this shit.
Guyladriel rivals Bo-Katan also known as Boo-Karen (who wanted to "speak"to the "manager" Gideon) in her Karenism. I didn´t think it is possible. I´m starting to think the woke writers are closeted misogynists because there is no way how you can genuinely try to write a strong woman and end up with the ultimate Karen every time.
The problem isn't that she's unlikable. It's that she is framed to be likable. The writers really want you to root for her even when she's disrespectful, cold, and arrogant ALL THE TIME.
more like a boss who demand you to work for free and be grateful for it 😂 i dont see guyladriel giving the queen (or anyone really) anything but a demand and order .
@José Antonio Juarez HAhhahH nobody would give a damn about "some changes" all of the Same tolkien fans how despise this disgraceful poorly writing crap are enjoying House of dragon. Wonder why?
@José Antonio Juarez i'm no ultra tolkien fan. I've seen the Galadriel in LOTR and she was magical, powerful, deep, fascinating and causing me to remember the movie character long after having watched the movie. But this Galadriel from ROP is from what I've seen just a shallow, unintersting, karen character. You don't see any difference in those two Galadriels?
My impression of gladriel in lotr: wow she is beauty, grace yet there is a power underneath all of that. She doesn't even need to express it out loud, I can clearly feel it in her presence. Yet despite all of that she is kind and generous. Her temptation with the one true ring showed that even somebody as wise and kind as her could easily be corrupted given the chance yet she denied it, proving that she, as well as Gandalf and frodo, can resist the temptation. What an extraordinary character My impression of Gladriel from rop: wow what a b$tch
Dude is acting like he's tolerating it in order to get some sausage into hey mayo hole, And that, as a Tolkien fan, pissess me off on SO many levels...
I don't understand how anyone thought that making the main character, a complete sociopath who you want to punch in the face, every scene that they are in..was a good idea.
Thank you amazon for destroying one of the coolest, authenticate and most graceful characters ever in film history. Tears me up to think of how much money they invested in that trash
How to make Rings of Power's Galadriel 1. Take Fëanor 2. Make him female 3. Remove any depth or charisma, and dock off 20-30 IQ points 4. Give the character Galadriel's name and give Finwë Finrod's name 5. Frame this resulting petulant Cluster B teenage girl as the hero of the story and portray all of Fëanor's horrible personality traits as "empowered girlboss" energy
I find it hilarious that no matter how many times she's all "I'm angry! Sauron is coming! Everyone should listen to me!", everyone around her is like "Nah! We don't want to listen to you!" 😂.
The only way that the writers came up to show to the audience that Galadriel is indeed wise was by making everyone around her look incompetent. Because that's is obviously good writing.
@@lisboah Cause she's supposed to be the woman hero and all of the men are supposed to be dumb and misogynistic because they think that's some clever social commentary or something
@@superstd Right and all the male characters are like overtly misogynist and retarded and laugh at all of the female leads whenever they try to tell them something.
She literally asks to see the manager (king) at one point when she's in Númenor. And it's in a situation where she is being reprimanded for violating several laws, is behaving very aggressively, and during her reprimand she makes a demand for trans-oceanic transport and for military forces to be placed under her command (in a nation where she is not a citizen and legally a civilian/foreign national). She asks to see the manager when her request is denied.
At this point, in the Second Age, Galadriel had already lived many thousands of years, was married to Celeborn, and, together, they were the leaders of a group of elves, while under the rule of Gil-galad. She was not running around, unmarried, angry and hunting orcs or acting like Bear Grylls. In the books, she is described as "the fairest of all elves' and one of great wisdom - something the writers of this show have no knowledge of, apparently.
Rey is OP but she is likable. She´s not a Karen with resting bi*ch face 24/7. There are far worse characters than Rey, I don´t get why she is mentioned so often. Even Star Wars itself has far worse characters who are either OP or Karens or both at the same time (Admiral Holdo, Sabine, Bo-Katan, her bratty Sidekick whose name I don´t bother to remember, the older Martez sister).
@@Mouse_Metal I think rey is disliked more because she's supposed to the protagonist yet the writers fucked up nd so we all hate her more than bitchy side characters.
@@Mouse_Metal Rey stabbed Kylo in the chest while in a daze. The granddaughter of the Devil himself usurped the name of the family who stood against Palpatine for so long.
@@vaderdown788 Kylo was a fu*king villain for the whole time except of the very last part. Stabbing him like that was kinda dark side move though and Rey´s tendency to fall to the dark side should have been explored in the movies. I wanted a temporarily dark side Rey and unredeemed Kylo.
She wonders what kind of man would abandon his men. But she meant what kind of female elf would do the very same and not be pointed out by the plot's virtue signaling.
She's not angry: she's a narcissist: or possibly a sociopath. She has basically all the classic symptoms: a total lack of empathy, an extreme self-centred attitude, the idea that the whole world revolves around her (her needs, her wants, her desires), entitlement, and a controlling, manipulative nature
@@englishlady9797he was crying when Sauron was telling her facts at the raft so literally no she is not a sociopaths. Sociopaths can't cry, they only willingly shed crocodile tears to gain pity or manipulate someone and Sauron was categorically rejecr by her like 2 seconds before so she literally wasn't trying to manipulate him. She is just into her emotional fi-ni loop. She is actually an INTJ in the show. Of course she is a racist and is self-centered but she has too many emotions to be a sociopath and not muffled at all.
@@avruvimtu2204 Sociopaths may cry and they may feel self-pity: that's probably all it was. It is myth that sociopaths don't experience emotions- it is more that they don't feel emotions towards *other people*. They don't have empathy or any regard for the feelings of others. Galadriel in the series spent enough time in the series using a pretense of compassion and empathy to manipulate people. Neither were genuine. In this scene though, I think she cried because she felt sorry for herself. A self-centred feeling. It's kind of funny because in the books none of this "Sauron killed Finrod and now I must avenge him!" nonsense exists. Finrod sacrificed himself willingly to save Beren and through his noble act, he was soon reincarnated in Valinor.
If you've ever read the Sillmarillion & other Tolkien works, you'll realize that Galadriel has in fact just been through the worst & most evil times in Middle earths history. At this point in her life, she's a massively dangerous boss that get's sh*t done. There's a lot of dark in her at this point.
I'm honestly rooting for Sauron. Even that weird bad guy from last episodes was more interesting and nice. I would join Sauron of this world to help him eliminate all shit
I was excited at first, the idea of showing a more warrior side of Galadriel. But they had to go about it THIS way, making her annoying, arrogant and immature. Hard to imagine this is the same Galadriel in the LOTR and The Hobbit. Ugh, I miss Cate Blanchett.
And I think I heard galadriel should be a few thousand years old during the time the show takes place. Like she should have matured more no matter how you see it compared to this abomination.
@@johnwinchesterp2963 Galadriel in second age is the oldest elf in Middle Earth already. And technically all elves pay respect to her because of her experience and wisdom. This show is simply garbage
YES. They are writing this like a YA school drama and think they can redeem their characters later. Yes, but in a YA school drama, worst stuff the character does is bully some kid or sell some drugs. Here, this woman spends hundreds of years dragging her soldiers into death and battle, then goes around threatening people, refusing to follow her King's orders, insulting Kings and Queens and now endangering lives of 500+ people... I mean, let alone the fact she should've been murdered or drowned in a cage for any single one of her affront to royalty, it's NOT stuff you get REDEEMED for. It's too big, too bad. People wouldn't respect the LotR Galadriel as much as they did if THIS was her backstory!
it's the only scene where Karendriel is not throwing any childish Irrational tantrums, Genuinely smiling (Creepy though) Yet this would be the same galadriel we see in later episodes & now Seasons
Greta Thurnberg has a good message and important valid topic. The planet is indeed undergoing a transformation. Just a shame that how she approaches the problem is wrong and is blaming and shaming ALL instead of the few who are the problem like our Republicans, Bolsonaro, Chinese, Indians etc.
If you read all the books.....she's not toxic....at this age she's MASSIVELY dangerous & psycho serious. You do NOT f*ck with her at this part of her life.
I think the character to emulate for the portrayal of Galadriel would be more Joan of Arc -ish. The reason why men, grown grizzled combat veterans to conscript French levies would follow her to their deaths is because she was charismatic, she understood the situation, she boosted morale by encouraging others, not to jibe and make stern faces to demand a following.
Galadriel is the opposite: she's an awful leader. She just shouts, screams and demands respect because she has not earned it: and then when her irrational actions cause her men to mutunty, she just demands more: treating them like disposable commodities who exist only to serve her. She just thinks she's enttitled to he because of who she is, rather than proving herself. I prefer to compare her to the characters in the movies and the Books. Aragorn is a natural leader who has already spent years as a Ranger: Boromir was a beloved leader who had been fighting to defend his people for years. Joan wasn't always so charasmatic: she was a teenager: when she felt people weren't doing what she wanted she too was prone to rages, tantrums and threats.
Galadriel is the worst character in the Show and since she is the lead for now, it makes her insufferable. Celebrimbor looks like he is old & weak AF. They should’ve cast someone younger for that role. The pace of the show is too slow, dialogues are not upto the mark and the writing is just terrible. The only hope for this abomination is if they change the direction of the show from the second season onwards. At this rate, it will surpass the final 2 season’s of GOT and become the biggest TV disappointment of all time
And THAT is exactly the way the real Tolkien story goes. And what you & everyone commenting here have missed. This young Galadriel is still going through the worst, most dark and evil times in Middle Earths history. This is how Tolkien wrote her. At this point she is a young dark, scary, angry, VERY dangerous boss. Cate's character is in a few thousand years when she's been able to deal with it. But even then, she may be classy but you do NOT f*ck with her or she will absolute obliterate you because that darkness is just below the surface.
r/@@egghurler "This is how Tolkien wrote her" my ass. The FIRST AGE is enough for Galadriel to KNOW WHAT DARKNESS means. And FYI, she's not even young during this time period. YOU KNEW damn well she's already married to her husband, who's also the one who gave her the name "Galadriel," and have a daughter. This is an entirely new character. Even the "young" Galadriel in Valinor see through Fëanor's darkness and only followed him because of her own ambitions, and NOT for REVENGE (she never did something for the sake of revenge, she may be rebellious, stubborn and proud but she's not a bitch like Guyladriel in ROP). She ended up being as a student to a Maia and chilling in her protected realm during the First Age. Oh, and in any versions, she's already WITH her husband at this point.
0:31 has anyone ever figured out what the hell her character was doing in these scenes? She keeps pulling on that piece of wood like it's steering the raft or something but it's clearly not. There are multiple scenes involving them screwing around with that piece of wood.
So, i just watched the second LOTR And i swear, That Galadriel, was truly magnificent and lovely What have they done to her? Like brah, She seemed truly Angel like, This doesn't seem even related to her
I feel like there's few well casted character in this entire show, Elendil the tall is one of them. It's like he was plucked straight from the trilogy, I can picture him clear as day in any scene within Gondor. His mannerisms, his wisdom, the classic 'Men of Gondor' look to him with the shoulder length hair and windscarred face. Elrond isn't too bad, but I fail to see that controlled strength and passion in him like Hugo Weaving's portayal. Weaving had this constant look of serene calm and understanding, beneath which was this simmering coal of emotion. You could see it in his scenes with Aragorn, especially when he presents Anduril. He was proud of his work, but he hated that he had to do it. He had faith and respect for the man he was giving it to, but couldn't look past the fact that this same man was the reason his daughter will die. It's a masterclass of acting, whereas kiddy Eldrond here looks stoned all the time. I won't bother mentioning old pignose scrunchface over here and her arrogant, 'woe is me' bullshit. Other people have already said everything I wanted to say lmfao.
same the only ones i started liking was Hallbrand, the fight scene was pretty cool and maybe Elendil other then that yea. but how could they make galadriel so unlikeable? ICANT
When I first experienced through review videos how literally villainous she was, I thought, of course, their idea to besmirch the character is to portray a white blonde woman as completely unsympathetic. Then I learned that she is supposed to be the good, the best, the hero, the voice of reason. It's mind boggling. In a way, it's also helpful, as I'm going to use it as inspiration on how to portray my narcissistic, holier-than-thou OC who is supposed to be evil and wholly irredeemable. It's hilarious to think of him as the good guy. This show gives us insight into the mind of a true narcissist.
Why we don't like characters that are always right, can't make wrong decisions, perfect, trying to be bad ass, rude, trying to be everyting it's because we don't observe them in real life, and even if it were, that person will be easily hate-able. It just doesn't balance it out. We tend to like characters that are relatable, who can fail, who can feel, who is a bad ass, and who can keep going on and win.
Loool, the Guyladriel twitch ain't never gonna be forgotten. And some twitches that should not have been forgotten were remembered. The twitch became history, the twitch became legendary. It never became myth. And for two and a half thousand years, the twitch passed down in all the memes.
So stunning.... so brave... so... EMPOWERED... SLAY QUEEN!!! Why does she bother to have long flowing blonde hair and wear long dresses, when she pretty much is playing an angry man all the time
It's like ROP try to portray Galadriel with her darker side we only get a glimpse of in Peter Jackson's films unleashed. Galadriel should be terrifying, instead, her "darker side" is just her being an insufferable ass.
When you're so focused on female empowerment that you forget how to write a likeable lead... Almost every female character in GOT was a badass, here they can't even do one.
Officers like Galadriel are often relegated to latrine duties or ride the desk their entire career because if they are given command they will wake up with an armed grenade stuffed down their pants or become the rare victim of a friendly fire incident.
"I need to know how many the enemy were, under whose banner they marched, and then you are gonna take me to their last known location." Can you imagine Tolkien writing any of his elven characters, much less Galadriel, to use informal contractions in their speech? Hearing her say the word "gonna" just makes me shudder.
Never seen a Tolkien elf that was a snappy snarling Chihuahua. Cate Blanchet could make you drop to your knees just by looking into your soul. Bezos made a blunder by buying reviews: negative reviews you can be sure Bezo's didn't pay for them. Positive reviews you can be sure that Bezos did.
A high elf, the most beautiful between her kin, obssesed with revenge and obliterate the evil forces in a world where nobody cares about or believe her, and all of you wanted her to be likeable? Likeable how?
She even lied about Halbrand to the Queen Regent. I don't mind her being a warrior and all but its about the principal. Only after using him, she tells him about why she's on the path that she's on. Even Elrond kept his word to Durin and never told Gil-galad anything. Smh.
Right now she is the fucking commander of the northern armies, she is in war and her mind it's obviously in conflict. Because she is an elf she doesn't need to be gracious and warm all the time as you want. And if you don't identity the Galadriel of the trilogy on her its because time passes and she still has to change to become her future version.
Frankly Leia had her moments in TLJ. I am going to get mad at Poe even though I either agreed to plan to use the bombers to destroy the dreadnought and then changed my mind for no stated reason and wanted everyone back including the slow ass paper mache bombers which clearly shoud only be deployed if you commited to using them, or she signed off on bringing out the bombers even though the goal was just to disable the guns on the dreadnought which clearly could be done with only an X-wing. On top of that when Poe cuts her off she won't bother contacting the bombers and their escort and ordering them to retreat. But despite that it is only Poe's fault they all died. Seriously years later and I still have no idea what the actual plan was to deal with the dreadnought because it was so contradictory.
I don’t know if Galadriel is unlikable or even if that’s the main issue. This series has been unwatchable because there are too many subplots and they are skipped through too rapidly before we can form connections with the characters. I think most people would say that if there is a story thread where they feel any connection, it’s the hobbits. The problem with Galadriel’s unlikability isn’t that she is unlikable. It’s that the screenplay doesn’t breathe for long enough for us to develop any sympathy. That’s the trick to unlikable characters-you give them and the audience the breathing space to form a sympathetic emotional basis. You reveal an endearing quality that might be a flaw or a virtue. You slowly develop the quality to make it seem like it leads eventually to redemption. This generates hope. Whether it does lead to redemption or ultimately disappoints is part of the tension of the story. The story rushes so quickly through Galadriel’s subplot that any endearing qualities can’t take hold. She just seems like a b-i-t-c-h. Contrast this with other stories featuring strong women, such as Mad Max Fury Road or Atomic Blonde, both featuring Charlize Theron. The characters she portrays are ruthless, but the stories are written in such a way that we can develop an attachment. Both movies are very fast paced, but they let the characters breathe. My opinion is based on watching the first three episodes, which were on the whole quite dull. Too many character plots, not enough time to develop characters or form attachments to them. It’s a big mess. Maybe this changes in later episodes and I should be more patient, but I feel that the show itself is too impatient, like it’s got to get through some quota of plot points each episode. Terrible storytellling.
The problem isn't that she's unlikable. It's that she is framed to be likable. The writers really want you to root for her even when she's disrespectful, cold, and arrogant ALL THE TIME.
Yeah with that twitching face she could make a cool villain or anti hero.
I don’t think the narrative will ultimately vindicate her attitude. A character like this can’t be sustained on arrogance alone, especially given Galadriel canonically outgrew her youthful arrogance. I believe she will be humbled, probably by stumbling into some horrible trap that she would’ve seen if she’d be less singleminded and would listen to anyone else’s advice.
....yes, I agree, but the problem is, it won't be believable because she's way too LOW at this point TO be redeemed.
This is the Kylo Ren situation again. They had the dude murder his own father at Rey's eyes, then spend 2 movies blowing up planets, killing and maiming her friends, trying to kill her two mentors (Leia and Luke) and making MULTIPLE attemptsnto kill her - and then expected us not to LAUGH when they have them kiss???
It's writing for complete idiots 101: nobody with a functioning brain cell could BUY this shit.
Manipulative, naive, obsessed, angry, demanding...
@@BrokenDarkFire you wish...
They literally put in the line "I demand to speak to the manager (king)" LOL
the funny thing is that she has done ot again on the 4th episode.
"i demand speak to who is really in charge of numinor" 🤮🤢🤢🤮🤮
Yes. And I mean 4 weeks into the Internet making fun of Galadriel being a Karen, they didn't think to edit that scene????
Like wtf....
or "give me the meat i want it raw" 🤮
Guyladriel rivals Bo-Katan also known as Boo-Karen (who wanted to "speak"to the "manager" Gideon) in her Karenism. I didn´t think it is possible.
I´m starting to think the woke writers are closeted misogynists because there is no way how you can genuinely try to write a strong woman and end up with the ultimate Karen every time.
Wow she’s so likeable. Like a boss that comes in on Friday to tell you she needs you to come in on the weekend.
Perfect analogy.
and get on our ass about TPS reports.
The problem isn't that she's unlikable. It's that she is framed to be likable. The writers really want you to root for her even when she's disrespectful, cold, and arrogant ALL THE TIME.
better to serve Sauron then this bitch
more like a boss who demand you to work for free and be grateful for it 😂 i dont see guyladriel giving the queen (or anyone really) anything but a demand and order .
Unintentional as it is, it’s funny she says she wants to speak with the King and people have described “Galadriel” as a Karen.
The Karens all over the world demanded representation in media and Amazon delivered.
Good one
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Lmao!
@José Antonio Juarez HAhhahH nobody would give a damn about "some changes"
all of the Same tolkien fans how despise this disgraceful poorly writing crap are enjoying House of dragon.
Wonder why?
@José Antonio Juarez i'm no ultra tolkien fan. I've seen the Galadriel in LOTR and she was magical, powerful, deep, fascinating and causing me to remember the movie character long after having watched the movie.
But this Galadriel from ROP is from what I've seen just a shallow, unintersting, karen character. You don't see any difference in those two Galadriels?
My impression of gladriel in lotr: wow she is beauty, grace yet there is a power underneath all of that. She doesn't even need to express it out loud, I can clearly feel it in her presence. Yet despite all of that she is kind and generous. Her temptation with the one true ring showed that even somebody as wise and kind as her could easily be corrupted given the chance yet she denied it, proving that she, as well as Gandalf and frodo, can resist the temptation. What an extraordinary character
My impression of Gladriel from rop: wow what a b$tch
Cate Blanchett's Galadriel exuded more power, grace, and wisdom in just one stare than an entire 5 episodes of this Guyladriel.
There is a tempest me 😡
@@Riri-oj1zs Heck, Cate Blanchett’s Hela displayed more of those qualities than this Galadriel.
Wow, what a B$tch is spot on😉☺😊😀😆😅😂🤣. This was not Galadrial this Guyladrial warrior princess of shadow valley in Midwaste Cesspool World❗
That was Cate Blanchett. a marvelous actress with a brilliant director, script and cinematography. This is community theater.
Elrond was hella chill, she’s insane.
she definetely hasn't discovered pipeweed yet
Dude has thousands of years of training lmao
Dude is acting like he's tolerating it in order to get some sausage into hey mayo hole,
And that, as a Tolkien fan, pissess me off on SO many levels...
@@maximusd26 Or pipe.
@@codinghusky5196 Elrond is her Son in Law wtf does elves life in Alabama?
I don't understand how anyone thought that making the main character, a complete sociopath who you want to punch in the face, every scene that they are in..was a good idea.
They could invest into my story that is about maneating giant king and his servant cook. You would all love it more than this
She's Fëanor if he were female, dumber, and lacked any of the depth or charisma that made him an interesting (if still detestable) character
they are on heavy drugs believe it or not.
Is it me or are all new movies written by divorced angry menopausal women?
I love her
She really brings that, "entitled rich neighborhood Starbuck's customer" energy to the second age.
There’s a tempest in my pumpkin spiced latte Frappuccino
she will stab you in the back because "I felt threatened". She is the most trigger happy cop in fantasy.
Thank you amazon for destroying one of the coolest, authenticate and most graceful characters ever in film history. Tears me up to think of how much money they invested in that trash
They didn't spend as much as they claimed. Probably a laundering scheem if you ask me
First : Disney destroyed Star Wars
Now : Amazon destroyed LOTR
It's not bad. How did they destroy the character?
Actually, in real Tolkien lore......this is probably the most accurate portrayal of Gladriel that's been done yet.
Incel
i like how she just randomly shouts "THERE'S A TEMPEST IN ME" like that's supposed to mean anything lol.
She’s horny? Maybe that’s why she’s so angry
yeah, sounds like the writer wrote that one when he had one too many jalapenas.
Maybe she's just holding it in? No.1 or 2 could be anything.
It has the same energy as i am woman hear me roar.
It is a line stolen from Cate Blanchett in Elizabeth the Golden Age
How to make Rings of Power's Galadriel
1. Take Fëanor
2. Make him female
3. Remove any depth or charisma, and dock off 20-30 IQ points
4. Give the character Galadriel's name and give Finwë Finrod's name
5. Frame this resulting petulant Cluster B teenage girl as the hero of the story and portray all of Fëanor's horrible personality traits as "empowered girlboss" energy
This.
Lol.
Yeah she's a poor copy of Fëanor.😂
How does this character relate to the almost ethereal and magnificent Galadriel in the original trilogy?
I can’t even see it as canon at this point. It’s ridiculous.
@@redmoon9650 Thankfully it isn't.
Its most expensive fanfic of all time
I find it hilarious that no matter how many times she's all "I'm angry! Sauron is coming! Everyone should listen to me!", everyone around her is like "Nah! We don't want to listen to you!" 😂.
The only way that the writers came up to show to the audience that Galadriel is indeed wise was by making everyone around her look incompetent. Because that's is obviously good writing.
@@lisboah Cause she's supposed to be the woman hero and all of the men are supposed to be dumb and misogynistic because they think that's some clever social commentary or something
I wouldn’t want to listen to her either.
thats the new trope of hollyweird , the mary sue girl boss who dont need no man and act as a jackass as possible BUT shes also a victim .
@@superstd Right and all the male characters are like overtly misogynist and retarded and laugh at all of the female leads whenever they try to tell them something.
"It is only natural to feel...conflicted...Conflicted?" That face twitch slays me every time lol. 2:18
Yes
"Conflicted!? How dare you imply I am not a freaking pyscho!"
Her performance as Karendriel is actually amazing.
🤣🤣🤣
this made me laugh hard
One karen to ree them all.
If the aim was to dislike her then yeah, she outdid herself.
She literally asks to see the manager (king) at one point when she's in Númenor. And it's in a situation where she is being reprimanded for violating several laws, is behaving very aggressively, and during her reprimand she makes a demand for trans-oceanic transport and for military forces to be placed under her command (in a nation where she is not a citizen and legally a civilian/foreign national). She asks to see the manager when her request is denied.
At this point, in the Second Age, Galadriel had already lived many thousands of years, was married to Celeborn, and, together, they were the leaders of a group of elves, while under the rule of Gil-galad. She was not running around, unmarried, angry and hunting orcs or acting like Bear Grylls. In the books, she is described as "the fairest of all elves' and one of great wisdom - something the writers of this show have no knowledge of, apparently.
"I'm simply wondering what manner of man so readily abandoned his companions to death"....
Well, you should know love... You were ready to do the same
And for no reason whatsoever. It was supposedly centuries since they found anything 😅
It's like the writers of this show looked at Rey and Captain Marvel, and said: "Hey, we can make a character worse than those".
Rey is OP but she is likable. She´s not a Karen with resting bi*ch face 24/7. There are far worse characters than Rey, I don´t get why she is mentioned so often. Even Star Wars itself has far worse characters who are either OP or Karens or both at the same time (Admiral Holdo, Sabine, Bo-Katan, her bratty Sidekick whose name I don´t bother to remember, the older Martez sister).
@@Mouse_Metal I think rey is disliked more because she's supposed to the protagonist yet the writers fucked up nd so we all hate her more than bitchy side characters.
@@Mouse_Metal Rey stabbed Kylo in the chest while in a daze. The granddaughter of the Devil himself usurped the name of the family who stood against Palpatine for so long.
@@vaderdown788 Kylo was a fu*king villain for the whole time except of the very last part. Stabbing him like that was kinda dark side move though and Rey´s tendency to fall to the dark side should have been explored in the movies. I wanted a temporarily dark side Rey and unredeemed Kylo.
@@Mouse_Metal does it matter? Rey always gets what others deserved, a happy ending with the name Skywalker. Rey can fuck off.
A few years from now, teachers at acting schools will be like "You're doing the Morfydd Nose Twitch again, watch it"
She wonders what kind of man would abandon his men. But she meant what kind of female elf would do the very same and not be pointed out by the plot's virtue signaling.
How do you write a strong female character in 2022? Just make her irrationally angry for no reason at all times.
permanent PMT?
She's not angry: she's a narcissist: or possibly a sociopath. She has basically all the classic symptoms: a total lack of empathy, an extreme self-centred attitude, the idea that the whole world revolves around her (her needs, her wants, her desires), entitlement, and a controlling, manipulative nature
@@englishlady9797he was crying when Sauron was telling her facts at the raft so literally no she is not a sociopaths. Sociopaths can't cry, they only willingly shed crocodile tears to gain pity or manipulate someone and Sauron was categorically rejecr by her like 2 seconds before so she literally wasn't trying to manipulate him. She is just into her emotional fi-ni loop. She is actually an INTJ in the show. Of course she is a racist and is self-centered but she has too many emotions to be a sociopath and not muffled at all.
@@avruvimtu2204 Sociopaths may cry and they may feel self-pity: that's probably all it was. It is myth that sociopaths don't experience emotions- it is more that they don't feel emotions towards *other people*. They don't have empathy or any regard for the feelings of others.
Galadriel in the series spent enough time in the series using a pretense of compassion and empathy to manipulate people. Neither were genuine.
In this scene though, I think she cried because she felt sorry for herself. A self-centred feeling.
It's kind of funny because in the books none of this "Sauron killed Finrod and now I must avenge him!" nonsense exists. Finrod sacrificed himself willingly to save Beren and through his noble act, he was soon reincarnated in Valinor.
"You have not seen what I've seen..."
"I've seen my share...."
"I've seen Rings of Power..."
"Ohh you poor child..."
“Finally I have become The Rings of Power 2022.” - Galadriel after morbing all over those orcs.
is that what's she's seen? it was never explained.
@@kylehufnal3213 She saw her own mug on the water and got terrified
If you've ever read the Sillmarillion & other Tolkien works, you'll realize that Galadriel has in fact just been through the worst & most evil times in Middle earths history. At this point in her life, she's a massively dangerous boss that get's sh*t done. There's a lot of dark in her at this point.
I can't wait for her to finally meet sauron so she can transcend her base karen form and go super karen
I'm honestly rooting for Sauron. Even that weird bad guy from last episodes was more interesting and nice. I would join Sauron of this world to help him eliminate all shit
The voice, the smug looks, the arrogance.
This isn't LOTR Galadriel.
Me after watching Galadriel in the RoP “ Hey Sauron, I am by your side man!”
Tolken is probably screaming in the grave knowing what happend to his creation...
"You have not see what I have seen"
"Jeez, all I asked was if you wanted some extra ice"
It is like trying to convince that Draco Malfoy of the first 5 Harry Potter movies is actually the hero lol
That twitching of her face. It's cringy af.
It's like Greta Thunberg.
She's got the itch to twitch, I guess.
She's like the PETA Vegan who invited herself to your BBQ.
I was excited at first, the idea of showing a more warrior side of Galadriel. But they had to go about it THIS way, making her annoying, arrogant and immature. Hard to imagine this is the same Galadriel in the LOTR and The Hobbit. Ugh, I miss Cate Blanchett.
Cate Blanchett's version will be like :"This is not when I was younger. That's ridiculous and shameful." 😒
And I think I heard galadriel should be a few thousand years old during the time the show takes place. Like she should have matured more no matter how you see it compared to this abomination.
@@johnwinchesterp2963 Galadriel in second age is the oldest elf in Middle Earth already. And technically all elves pay respect to her because of her experience and wisdom. This show is simply garbage
YES.
They are writing this like a YA school drama and think they can redeem their characters later.
Yes, but in a YA school drama, worst stuff the character does is bully some kid or sell some drugs. Here, this woman spends hundreds of years dragging her soldiers into death and battle, then goes around threatening people, refusing to follow her King's orders, insulting Kings and Queens and now endangering lives of 500+ people...
I mean, let alone the fact she should've been murdered or drowned in a cage for any single one of her affront to royalty, it's NOT stuff you get REDEEMED for. It's too big, too bad.
People wouldn't respect the LotR Galadriel as much as they did if THIS was her backstory!
@@hmw4166 naww there's still that Teleri elf that'd been in the middle earth even before the Great March
She acts like a 30 year old human, impatient and angry. Sratch that 20 year old.
And you forgot the horse scene, pure magic.
it's the only scene where Karendriel is not throwing any childish Irrational tantrums, Genuinely smiling (Creepy though) Yet this would be the same galadriel we see in later episodes & now Seasons
Her twitching and self righteousness reminds of greta thurnberg.
SO TRUE
Greta Thurnberg has a good message and important valid topic. The planet is indeed undergoing a transformation. Just a shame that how she approaches the problem is wrong and is blaming and shaming ALL instead of the few who are the problem like our Republicans, Bolsonaro, Chinese, Indians etc.
I knew she reminded me of someone in real life
“How dare you! You have not seen what I have seen! How dare you!”
Yup and that is pretty much how a majority of upper class young white girls behave.
I literally have a flat mate that is literally like Galadriel
This is supposed to be an all wise some thousand years old elf who has been through many battles.
Indeed.
Dude she is so toxic
If you read all the books.....she's not toxic....at this age she's MASSIVELY dangerous & psycho serious. You do NOT f*ck with her at this part of her life.
@@egghurler i was talking on the series not the books
I think the character to emulate for the portrayal of Galadriel would be more Joan of Arc -ish. The reason why men, grown grizzled combat veterans to conscript French levies would follow her to their deaths is because she was charismatic, she understood the situation, she boosted morale by encouraging others, not to jibe and make stern faces to demand a following.
Yeah Joan was a hero and really cool.. even if saying so does make me a traitor since I'm English. She was a damn good leader.
Galadriel is the opposite: she's an awful leader. She just shouts, screams and demands respect because she has not earned it: and then when her irrational actions cause her men to mutunty, she just demands more: treating them like disposable commodities who exist only to serve her. She just thinks she's enttitled to he because of who she is, rather than proving herself.
I prefer to compare her to the characters in the movies and the Books. Aragorn is a natural leader who has already spent years as a Ranger: Boromir was a beloved leader who had been fighting to defend his people for years.
Joan wasn't always so charasmatic: she was a teenager: when she felt people weren't doing what she wanted she too was prone to rages, tantrums and threats.
Galadriel is not Jeanne d'Arc. She is one of the oldest elves in middle-earth a is very powerful herself.
@@an6153 Well, yes in Tolkien's actual writing, but in Rings of Power she acts like a petulent child and has no magical powers.
This is what a Karen was during the Second Age.
This series should be called "the evolution of Karen"
@@Lone_Star86 Evolution? Women perfect, women don´t need to evolve! Reeee!!!
Whoever did casting on this cost Amazon a billion dollars.
It must have been an elon musk sabotage strategy
Brother it goes deeper than the mere casting. The writing is woeful
It's DEFINITELY the writers. She's just a hacktivist in desperate need of acting jobs.
It’s not about the money for them.
Galadriel is the worst character in the Show and since she is the lead for now, it makes her insufferable.
Celebrimbor looks like he is old & weak AF. They should’ve cast someone younger for that role.
The pace of the show is too slow, dialogues are not upto the mark and the writing is just terrible. The only hope for this abomination is if they change the direction of the show from the second season onwards. At this rate, it will surpass the final 2 season’s of GOT and become the biggest TV disappointment of all time
This girl's and Cate Blanchett's portrayal are miles apart. This girl seems like she got anger issues where as Cate's was classy.
And THAT is exactly the way the real Tolkien story goes. And what you & everyone commenting here have missed. This young Galadriel is still going through the worst, most dark and evil times in Middle Earths history. This is how Tolkien wrote her. At this point she is a young dark, scary, angry, VERY dangerous boss. Cate's character is in a few thousand years when she's been able to deal with it. But even then, she may be classy but you do NOT f*ck with her or she will absolute obliterate you because that darkness is just below the surface.
@@egghurler I don't think that is correct. She is already a few thousand years old at this point.
Enough to have that classiness.
@@egghurler000 years of experience and "light of Valinor" colored hair = immature Karen with angry squirrel face... Ooook
r/@@egghurler
"This is how Tolkien wrote her" my ass. The FIRST AGE is enough for Galadriel to KNOW WHAT DARKNESS means. And FYI, she's not even young during this time period. YOU KNEW damn well she's already married to her husband, who's also the one who gave her the name "Galadriel," and have a daughter. This is an entirely new character. Even the "young" Galadriel in Valinor see through Fëanor's darkness and only followed him because of her own ambitions, and NOT for REVENGE (she never did something for the sake of revenge, she may be rebellious, stubborn and proud but she's not a bitch like Guyladriel in ROP). She ended up being as a student to a Maia and chilling in her protected realm during the First Age. Oh, and in any versions, she's already WITH her husband at this point.
Does that include that her face remains the same no matter what is happening around?
lol yes! it annoys the hell out of me, like I wait to see if she ever changes expressions
This abomination makes Rey look like Ellen Ripley
@Abdelrahim Haddad Rey's acting was fine, her character wasn't
@@EntrEsprit No that would be the writers who are to blame.
I wouldn't go that far, Rey is still a disgrace
Rey was harmless. Especially when comparing to this.
hahaha
The writers of this show completely destroyed the majesty and gracefulness of her character entirely
galadriel - "im simply wondering what manner of man would so readily abandon his companions to death"
also galadriel - "no ! we keep moving !"
hmmmmmm
"I am simply wandering what manner of man would so readily abandon her companions to death.......just like i did"
His
It’s pretty bad. Writers should have watched Cate Blanchett to see how it was done.
They found an actress less talented than Brie,and Diasey and wrote a worse character than Rey and Carol, to create this abomination.
If Galadriel’s character was that of a male, they would be epitomised as an over the top example of toxic masculinity.
Bad female characters often possess toxic masculinity in mainstream media.
0:31 has anyone ever figured out what the hell her character was doing in these scenes? She keeps pulling on that piece of wood like it's steering the raft or something but it's clearly not. There are multiple scenes involving them screwing around with that piece of wood.
But she was wrong. She wanted to go further north, and then Halbrand? Said orcs were in his home in the southlands? None of it makes any sense
So, i just watched the second LOTR
And i swear,
That Galadriel, was truly magnificent and lovely
What have they done to her?
Like brah,
She seemed truly Angel like,
This doesn't seem even related to her
I feel like there's few well casted character in this entire show, Elendil the tall is one of them. It's like he was plucked straight from the trilogy, I can picture him clear as day in any scene within Gondor. His mannerisms, his wisdom, the classic 'Men of Gondor' look to him with the shoulder length hair and windscarred face. Elrond isn't too bad, but I fail to see that controlled strength and passion in him like Hugo Weaving's portayal. Weaving had this constant look of serene calm and understanding, beneath which was this simmering coal of emotion. You could see it in his scenes with Aragorn, especially when he presents Anduril. He was proud of his work, but he hated that he had to do it. He had faith and respect for the man he was giving it to, but couldn't look past the fact that this same man was the reason his daughter will die.
It's a masterclass of acting, whereas kiddy Eldrond here looks stoned all the time. I won't bother mentioning old pignose scrunchface over here and her arrogant, 'woe is me' bullshit. Other people have already said everything I wanted to say lmfao.
She goes full psychopath in ep6
chill chill woman, no one here is your enemy
yeah its pretty unbearable. i actually can't think of a character that i like.
The only character I don't dislike so far is Princess Disa. She feels like an actual person and doesn't sound dumb or annoyed.
@@Preplot yeah that's fair, she feels somewhat real and personable. i just can't like galadriel, to the point where i'd like to see her get killed.
same the only ones i started liking was Hallbrand, the fight scene was pretty cool and maybe Elendil other then that yea. but how could they make galadriel so unlikeable? ICANT
@@Preplot wait till episode 4 🥵
I kind of like Hallbrand, which is ironic since he might be Sauron or a ringwraith.
Legit who told this girl that facial twitching = good acting?? Sweet jesus is she just awful.
Ah 0:09, the moment we’ve all been waiting for. Karen finally asked for the manager.
karandriel
i demand to seek audiance with the manager
Stunningly and bravely at its highest cringe.
Um sweety that’s antisemitic…
She comes off as an angry spiteful victim, when she should be graceful, commanding, and wise.
When I first experienced through review videos how literally villainous she was, I thought, of course, their idea to besmirch the character is to portray a white blonde woman as completely unsympathetic. Then I learned that she is supposed to be the good, the best, the hero, the voice of reason. It's mind boggling. In a way, it's also helpful, as I'm going to use it as inspiration on how to portray my narcissistic, holier-than-thou OC who is supposed to be evil and wholly irredeemable. It's hilarious to think of him as the good guy. This show gives us insight into the mind of a true narcissist.
Why we don't like characters that are always right, can't make wrong decisions, perfect, trying to be bad ass, rude, trying to be everyting it's because we don't observe them in real life, and even if it were, that person will be easily hate-able. It just doesn't balance it out. We tend to like characters that are relatable, who can fail, who can feel, who is a bad ass, and who can keep going on and win.
Loool, the Guyladriel twitch ain't never gonna be forgotten.
And some twitches that should not have been forgotten were remembered. The twitch became history, the twitch became legendary. It never became myth. And for two and a half thousand years, the twitch passed down in all the memes.
You're not witty or funny.
@@SaintFort no, he’s disenchanted
So stunning.... so brave... so... EMPOWERED... SLAY QUEEN!!! Why does she bother to have long flowing blonde hair and wear long dresses, when she pretty much is playing an angry man all the time
angry adolescent girl. Men do not act like that or they get the shite kicked out of them.
im suprised she isn't shaves on the sides with a blue mohawk
@@MUFCZONE There is supposed to be 5 seasons, so ... there's still time
Men are angry when it's needed usually.She represents a whaman
Damn, and this doesn't even include when she gets to Numenor and somehow manages to make both the queen and most of the city hate her in a day.
It's like ROP try to portray Galadriel with her darker side we only get a glimpse of in Peter Jackson's films unleashed. Galadriel should be terrifying, instead, her "darker side" is just her being an insufferable ass.
Why she twitching??... didn't the cameramen notice that...i refuse to believe they spent a billion on this
When you're so focused on female empowerment that you forget how to write a likeable lead...
Almost every female character in GOT was a badass, here they can't even do one.
She is insufferable. It literally took me days to get through an episode. I had to stop after a scene with her in it . She is just unwatchable
Officers like Galadriel are often relegated to latrine duties or ride the desk their entire career because if they are given command they will wake up with an armed grenade stuffed down their pants or become the rare victim of a friendly fire incident.
I literally typed in “Galadriel rat face” and this came up
Why is she smiling when she says ''You Haven't Seen What I Have Seen''?
Because the sh*t that she just been through for the last several centuries is so evil and dark that it should have sent her mad.
she has no expression
And she has no character development throughout the entire show despite being flawed.
sigh, the writers really are clueless. how does one get a job as a writer in Hollywood? an empty CV seems most plausible at the moment.
"I need to know how many the enemy were, under whose banner they marched, and then you are gonna take me to their last known location."
Can you imagine Tolkien writing any of his elven characters, much less Galadriel, to use informal contractions in their speech? Hearing her say the word "gonna" just makes me shudder.
Never seen a Tolkien elf that was a snappy snarling Chihuahua. Cate Blanchet could make you drop to your knees just by looking into your soul.
Bezos made a blunder by buying reviews: negative reviews you can be sure Bezo's didn't pay for them. Positive reviews you can be sure that Bezos did.
This is a general trend. The main characters become more infantile and capricious every year. They turn into big children, but sometimes also nasty
Someone wakes up early every morning, gets dressed and travels to where ever Guyladriel is and pisses in her Wheaties.
Bless that person. 🤣🤣🤣
A high elf, the most beautiful between her kin, obssesed with revenge and obliterate the evil forces in a world where nobody cares about or believe her, and all of you wanted her to be likeable? Likeable how?
How does a billion dollars show end up looking so bad.....
0:40 how tf is snow affecting them did the writers not read the books
I have not seen what you have seen until I've seen Galadriel from Ring of Power.
How come "THERE IS A TEMPEST IN ME!' isn't here? 🤣🤣🤣
Is it just me or is she a terrible actress? She has pretty much the same expression in all scenes
If this version of Galadriel was a man people would point to him as an archetype for “toxic masculinity.”
She even lied about Halbrand to the Queen Regent. I don't mind her being a warrior and all but its about the principal. Only after using him, she tells him about why she's on the path that she's on. Even Elrond kept his word to Durin and never told Gil-galad anything. Smh.
She was probably in PMS when she was shooting this
The Elves don’t look like immortal warriors who have seen the unfolding of history. They look like the guy who sells weed at university 😅
What grace! The future Lady of Lorien ladies and gentlemen.
Right now she is the fucking commander of the northern armies, she is in war and her mind it's obviously in conflict. Because she is an elf she doesn't need to be gracious and warm all the time as you want. And if you don't identity the Galadriel of the trilogy on her its because time passes and she still has to change to become her future version.
I can't believe where at a point in time where we rooted for Sauron to win. 😂
So Galadriel, Captain Marvel, Rey Skywalker and She Hulk walk into a bar......the manager commits suicide.
Four women who will be alone with their cats in retirement.
You forgot Admiral Holdo from The Last Jedi, too.
🤣
Frankly Leia had her moments in TLJ. I am going to get mad at Poe even though I either agreed to plan to use the bombers to destroy the dreadnought and then changed my mind for no stated reason and wanted everyone back including the slow ass paper mache bombers which clearly shoud only be deployed if you commited to using them, or she signed off on bringing out the bombers even though the goal was just to disable the guns on the dreadnought which clearly could be done with only an X-wing. On top of that when Poe cuts her off she won't bother contacting the bombers and their escort and ordering them to retreat. But despite that it is only Poe's fault they all died.
Seriously years later and I still have no idea what the actual plan was to deal with the dreadnought because it was so contradictory.
@@jacquelineking5783 That was NOT Princess Leia. That was some revolting Kathleen Kennedy creation. It was a desecration of the character.
She is married to Celebron. She is supposed to be with her husband.
This. And she should have been a supporting character in the whole SA.
I don’t know if Galadriel is unlikable or even if that’s the main issue. This series has been unwatchable because there are too many subplots and they are skipped through too rapidly before we can form connections with the characters. I think most people would say that if there is a story thread where they feel any connection, it’s the hobbits.
The problem with Galadriel’s unlikability isn’t that she is unlikable. It’s that the screenplay doesn’t breathe for long enough for us to develop any sympathy. That’s the trick to unlikable characters-you give them and the audience the breathing space to form a sympathetic emotional basis. You reveal an endearing quality that might be a flaw or a virtue. You slowly develop the quality to make it seem like it leads eventually to redemption. This generates hope. Whether it does lead to redemption or ultimately disappoints is part of the tension of the story. The story rushes so quickly through Galadriel’s subplot that any endearing qualities can’t take hold. She just seems like a b-i-t-c-h.
Contrast this with other stories featuring strong women, such as Mad Max Fury Road or Atomic Blonde, both featuring Charlize Theron. The characters she portrays are ruthless, but the stories are written in such a way that we can develop an attachment. Both movies are very fast paced, but they let the characters breathe.
My opinion is based on watching the first three episodes, which were on the whole quite dull. Too many character plots, not enough time to develop characters or form attachments to them. It’s a big mess. Maybe this changes in later episodes and I should be more patient, but I feel that the show itself is too impatient, like it’s got to get through some quota of plot points each episode. Terrible storytellling.
Great coment
the results of bad acting + bad writing
After every 2 mins she wants to find and fight the enemy. She feels as if the enemy is just sitting and waiting for her🙄🙄🙄
Ah, she's my favourite!- like wet cardboard with ink smeared on it to resemble an angry face...
One Karen to rule them all and in the darkness bind them.
Why is she so obnoxious? Because she has a tempest in her, obviously!