@@chell272Hm.. I know. Tht doesn't stop me wishing for it. Its like climate change. I know it won't stop. . But stil,l I don't stop wishing for it to end. . I make an effort to do what I can for the climate and also make an effort to introduce LOTR to my friends. And the silmallirion afterwards. Till date I have gotten 7 people to become fans of LOTR and out of them 2 have started the Silmallirion. It may not be anything! But it's a start!
As a note, Galadriel gave Gimli three strands of her golden hair when he only asked for one; actually alludes to her thrice rejections of Feanor's requests for a strand of her hair. Later, it was said that it was one of the reasons Feanor made the three Simarils.
Thank you Anh Le, I was hoping someone made this comment. I can't believe this crucial detail was overlooked in the making of this video. Feanor's interest in Galadriel's hair got the whole Silmaril thing started. And it helps to know exactly why her gift to Gimli was significant: it brought her personal story full circle.
Galadriel and Celeborn are like Eve and Adam in Only Lovers Left Alive - when you’re immortal it isn’t as pressing to spend all your time with a spouse you love and you can go decades without each other and it’s fine!
@@joetheperformeryou’re trippin. Not em being able to die is a curse in itself. Think about it deep and you’ll realize that. It’s probably worst than growing old.
Yes, but let’s wait another decade. I feel like story expansions are complete garbage nowadays. Star Wars is a great example. Another is Jurassic Park.
Gimli asked nicely. Thanks for pointing this out, it puts a whole different level of meaning that someone watching the movies or reading only LOTR would miss.
I am in love with the elves and how whimsical they are like the light they exude yet they are stronger than the average man and have enhanced senses. I still remember Legolas walking on the snow! Really cool!
What I like about the Elves is that they never looked like the stereotype we are used to...very small, such as the ones that reside at the North Pole and assist Saint Nicholas.
The light stride over the snow is an excellent touch, without being explicitly noted, too. More obvious, but an impressive display of his elvish agility is his slide down the oliphaunt's trunk as it collapses from his deathshot to its nape! Smooth!
The Silmarillion is an epic piece of literature. Once you get through the initial ancestry and layout of the races, the stories themselves are easily on par with The Lord of the Rings story. I just wish Tolkien had had more time to fully expand to his history and stories.
@@arkasengupta1370 Yeah, he really fucked up, having literally hundreds of millions of readers and one of the most widely-published non-scripture books in all of human history. But I suppose you've done something more noteworthy?
When Galadriel went through Moria I do not believe her daughter was born yet. She was born near the beginning of the 3rd age. Galadriel was the mother-in-law to Elrond. Grandmother-in-law to Aragorn. Talk about intimidating.
Celebrian would have been born before the War of the Elves and Sauron likely in Eregion or perhaps earlier in Evendim which Galadriel ruled for a time. Elves have children during times of peace. The end of Second Age has far too much strife. Also in the History of Galadriel and Celeborn, it states Celebrian left Eregion in 1350 of the Second Age and met Elrond in Rivendell in 1701 of the Second Age. So she was at least born before 1350.
Aragorn is also distantly related to her through his own lineage. The royal family of Numenor are descendants of Elros, Elrond's brother who chose to be mortal, all half elven children must choose whether to be mortal or immortal. Elros and Elrond were the sons of Earendil.
@@MC-or3oi and the fun part is that her parents, her maternal grandparents and paternal grandmother are still alive. Her eldest brother was reembodied too.
@@LaFaJe Well, no, that's not it at all. The point is she could read people. She refused Faenor, but gives Gimli three. This is a not her trying to avoid anything bad, but it illustrates her disapproval of Faenor and her approval of Gimli. This is further shown when she, successfully, requests to allow Gimli access.
@@Tanstaafl_74 she did not disapprove of Feanor, in fact she loved her cousin very much, which is why she willingly traveled in the host with him back to Middleearth; and she gave Gimli her hair because she saw that he worships her in love unspoken.
Tolkien made a cover of Christianity when he wrote the Silmarillion (the elven bible), Martin made a cover of the European monarchy. Both works are extremely good but they aim for different goals. Martin's work is not finished yet, the TV Show's ending was not his own, so we have to wait for the books... if he ever finishes them. Tolkien wrote a fantastic end for the Lord of the Rings, but his core work was always the Silmarillion, and he was never able to finish it during his life. The Published Silmarillion was the best effort of Tolkien's son to compile and edit most of what his father wrote and pretended to put into this masterpiece.
Thanks for posting this. I was confused about her backstory since the Amazon series takes place at the end of the 2nd era BUT does not show Galadriel as being married and doesn't seem to follow this at all.
The only thing the two elven women share is their name. Rings of Power is about a elven warrior Mary Sue who sometimes acts like a Karen, and Tolkien's Galadriel, who is a wise and powerful mage strong enough to bring down Dol Guldur's castle walls by herself!
Same. After checking, it seems Amazon's version not only doesn't use the primary source (the Silmarillion), but they've intentionally compressed the ages together and changed Galadriel's role in history. It's...unfortunate =/
@@SD78 I wouldn't call Amazon's version a fan fiction because if a fan who has read and loves the Silmarillion and the LOTR trilogy would not have come up with the Amazon's version of Galadriel.
Such a huge and great character. Of the mightiest elves at the time in Middle Earth. Too bad Peter Jackson made her seem so creepy although her redeemed himself a little in the Hobbit. Cate spinning around in that long gown was breathtaking.
To me she seemed scary powerful. Like you were either in awe or terrified of her. In the films I feel all the elven kingdom's were other worldly and I love that. I wish this new series would show some of that.
The new show seems to forget that elves originally came from Middle Earth then migrated to Valinor, and doesn't mention the Valars or the rebellion. She doesn't have the height, emphasis on the hair (or the connection to the Silmarils), no romance with Celeborn but instead a weird friendship with Elrond, and has a childish & abrasive personality even though she's already hundreds of years old 🙄
the writers of the show care not for canon at all. Source material is a joke for these hacks. This new Galadriel is awful. It literally ruins the whole show.
The Rings of Power aren’t able to use the Silmarillion, they can only use the LOTR and it’s appendices to create their stories, so it’s not going to fit exactly how Tolkien wrote everything unfortunately. They did mention Celeborn however and will be doing more with their relationship as the story goes on. I think Cate Blanchett does a better Galadriel for sure but it’s not the worst show I’ve seen.
Thousands* of years’ old mate. She’s supposedly 5,000 yrs old in the series which makes even less sense since she acts like she’s only 30 in the series
What a fun watch! Honestly watched this because I wanted to know which version(s) they’d talk about - they touch on the fact that over his lifetime, Tolkien had varying different concepts of Galadriel’s backstory. Something I thought I’d mention is that one of the things he changed his mind about over time was how good of a person she was in her youth - whether super saintly or a bit power hungry. In one version, she even comes over to Middle Earth on her own for 100% pure reasons, rather than coming with her people in the initial journey across the ice mentioned in the video. It’s really fun to see folks talking about Tolkien’s Lord of the Rings backstory work in a more mainstream way. :)
@@cejannuzihe actually did. But his interpretation of female power isnt restricted to swords and armor. There are other forms of power such as guidance and authority which galadriel encapsulates.
Valinooooooor lol ack. I wish the part about Feanor asking for strands of her hair had been mentioned, and how Gimli's request mirrored that and brought Galadriel's story full circle. I remember when I realized that she was Arwen's grandmother! 🤯Good video
@@hazbojangles2681 I think some of the tales could be filmed, like Beren and Luthien or the Children of Húrin. The latter would make a very dark movie, though.
@@amberlambert7040 actually watching this video after the show so far has put her character into deeper perspective for me. It didn't ruin anything by comparison it actually made it better lmao
I read in the Silmarllion that it was Ungoliant who helped Melkor(later named Morgoth) to kill the Two Trees, She later went on to give birth to Shelob. It'll be interesting if the these guys could chronicle the history of Feanor, who forged the Silmarils, as well as the tale of Beren and Luthien, as theirs was the greatest love story until Aragorn came along
It was. Ungoliant was a monster of unspecified nature, although it is strongly implied to be of a spider like form. It poisoned the trees and fled to Middle Earth with Morgoth where it then tried to kill him, it almost bested Morgoth until he called upon a host of Balrogs who helped him drive it off. Both Shelob and the giant spiders in Mirkwood are descended from it so Bilbo getting Sting in the troll horde was very fortuitous.
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Love or hate Peter Jackson at least he tried to keep it as close to the source material as possible. Even with the hobbit the extra shit came from the silmarillion and lost tales.
He did with LotR mostly. Unfortunately, he had Faramir try to take Frodo and the Ring to Minas Tirith, just like his brother because he thought it made him more interesting. In the book, he had no interest in the Ring, which Tolkien wrote to contrast him with Boromir. Just one example, but for the most part, yeah. At least with LotR. With The Hobbit, he went full on Melkor in the Song of the Ainur.
I feel sad about the way she's depicted in Amazon's Rings of Power (like a young naïve princess, way too proud, doesn’t seem to have lived thousands of years etc…), but I'm thankful for Tolkien's stories, which will always gonna be deep and fascinating
@@khristinas2117 thanks for correcting me, you’re right, I have only read TLOTR, The Hobbit and The Children of Hurin, Ill do it again with more attention I just felt a big disconnection with the cinema’s Galadriels and I get a little confused with elven ages, how old is “still young” for an elf?
@@khristinas2117 yes in VALINOR DAYS… The Amazon galadriel took place in 2nd age and she was thousands of years old already. Even in valinor days she was insightful and wise much wiser than feanor.
@@khristinas2117 Her young version BEFORE returning to Middle-earth was proud and rebellious. Like all of the few Noldor who survived the war with Morgoth, she learned a lot and was much changed by that war, and not in the way RoP portrays. As this video notes, she left Beleriand before the end of the war because she wanted nothing more to do with the war or with the sons of Fëanor.
@@khristinas2117 you are exquisitely incorrect as in the show, she is not young anymore. Also, her behavior isn't rebellious or proud. She is arrogant, crass, petulant, rude, disrespectful, childish, immature, and sooo many more terribly pathetic traits. The writers have butchered her and the entire show is a flop. a billion dollar dumpster fire.
I wish the ,"creator's, " of the new," Lord of the Rings," series would actually use this back history and actually follow the story as it was meant to be.
This is the real powerful and magical Galadriel we know from the book while The Ring of Power showing her using sword and dagger destroying her image, killing ice troll using Super Mario style and finish with a dagger poke, YIKE!
@@jennabaram6223 yes, but High elf is chanted with magical being, even if she is younger age should show us she kill the troll using her magic + sword skill and not Super Mario jump. also her face no expressions at all fighting such creature, try watch LOTR fellowship, they are scare, exhausted, and put alot effort to take down cave troll, while Legolas is in Anxious and Panic when his companions almost get slap by the troll, but Gimlin still busy whacking goblin avenging Moria, that funny as heck.
@@carlosgarciasanchez people who immerse themselves in a fantasy world care a great deal because lore is important and things like this are “lore breaking” and take you out of the world. The lore breaking in Disney Star Wars has killed my interest in the Star Wars universe
This should be made into film . Another trilogy. The battle , the migration, the union, the split of elven tribes, the Valor entering the final battle , it would be epic.
@@TerroristNeutralizer Yea, Tolkien wrote Feaonor was strongest in hand mind and work of craft. He solo'd balrogs :O and only died when Gothmeg with a small army of balrogs surrounded him.
There were more members of the White Council than those that appeared in the films, including Glorfindal, an incredibly powerful elf lord who was completely omitted from the movies
He appears in return of the King, but he’s in a Background shot. Pretty much my only gripe about Jackson’s movies. Would have loved to have seen more from him.
@@ribos2762 I will shamelessly borrow words from your comments, "behold the lady of Lothlorien, the protector of the golden woods, the scourge of Orcs and Trolls, Galadriel the Barbarian!"
This is the best accepted final canon coverage of Galadriel I've come across in a while. [Thank you Christopher Tolkien, for sharing your father's insights.] Yes, Galadriel was among the top athletes beating male competitors. She was a top lore master who became even better for knowing Melian the maia. As one with Vanyar heritage through her mother Galadriel was exceptionally close to the powers that shaped and organized the world. This is in stark contrast to rop funded by a billionaire who could never imagine Tolkien's Galadriel as it might make Jeff feel less almighty than he is. Fun fact: Morgoth, the source of all corruption in the world, had skills to mimic, and much knowledge of all of the valar even the mightiest of the kings of valar, except one vala, who he feared and hated more than any other, the queen of the valar, Varda, the valar of Light. I have no doubt Jeff had to hire writers that could diminish Galadriel as she echoes Varda in Tolkien's writings.
After Sauron was overthrown, Celeborn led the Galadhrim (the Elves of Lórien, Sindarin for 'Tree-people') to clear out southern Mirkwood. Galadriel threw down Dol Guldur and cleansed its pits BY HERSELF, and without assistance from Nenya, the Elven ring powerless since the One Ring was destroyed. The actual Galadriel puts the Amazon portrayal to shame.
@Torsar It's in the Appendix, I forget where exactly. It's at the end of the yearly chronicle, I believe. Legolas and Gimli build a ship and travel to Valinor, where Galadriel uses her influence to get Gimli in.
yEP, after LoTR main story, Elessar (Aragorn and Arewn have kids, and eventually Elessar dies at 200 years or something.. In the meantime GImli took some of his people to Helm's Deep and settled in the caves there he discovered during that battle. Aglarond, I believe the name is. Later when Legolas finally gets suckered by the call of the sea, He goes back and grabs GImli and they sail away to Valinor. There's also some dispute over whether Samwise eventually took a ship for Valinor, as the very last of the Ringbearers in ME. If so, that was truly the last elven ship to leave ME. THe remainiing elves in the woodland areas never had the call to go.
@@Ren-hw4ne you know how many people get lost in the sea and we never find them again? a tiny teeny boat finding a woman in the middle of the ocean top writing
Using this Video as a Time line for Galadriel. At what point is she the sword swinging, mountain climbing, stranded at sea Galadriel? That we see in Rings of Power? The narrator doesnt mention any of this.
@@lazaf3848 yes. But the books came out way before any movies or cartoons it tv shows. I’m ok with people picking up the ball and running with it and taking the story further. Creating content that fills in gaps. As long as current information isn’t contradicted. There are moments in the books that might speak of moments and memories and incidences that mention Aragorns childhood. But it doesn’t speak of his everyday adventures. You could write a tv series on Aragorn. You could invent all kinds of stories and adventures. You could fill in that entire gap of unspoken moments. AS LONG ….. as your stories do not contradict what is already written. I’m no Tolkien expert. But I’m under the impression. More than just gaps are being filled. Thing are being changed. And to me ….. that is a no no. If your going to be successful while riding another coat tail. Don’t cut and mend the coat tail.
Wow, this is great. The Amazon series can only be described as a wild, toad venom-induced, tangent. While some of the visuals are absolutely beautiful, they failed to honor much of the source material. The idea of Galadriel with a sword is folly at best; for what earthly purpose would she need one?
This video forgot to mention the Ban of the Valar. She was banned from returning to Valinor because of the atrocities she took part in when leaving Valinor (aka the kinslaight). And the ban has been lifted only bcause of her deeds during War of the ring, especially her refusal to take the ring from Frodo... That is why she said that she passed the test, will diminish and go to the west....
The ban was against all the Noldor, regardless of their part. Galadriel actually did NOT take part in the Kinslaying at Alqualondë and in fact loathed Feänor and his sons for it. The Elves slain there were of the Teleri which was the kin of her mother.
@@fogeltje And? I mean what does it change? The facts are: 1) she was one of the leaders thus making her responsible even though she did not took part in it herself nor though that she loathed Feanor afterwards.... 2) She was a very active and vocal leader and thus the ban was more strict for her than for the Noldor in general. Basically it was like "If you leave, you will be banned from returning", "We are leaving, we do not want to return, we can do it better,...." So I think that it would be nice to mention that she was in Middle Earth de facto in exile and it is fair to say that she was co-responsible for all the bad things that happen because of the Noldor leaving the Valinor...
@@radekhladik7895 the ban ended after the War of Wrath when the Valar forgave all the remaining Noldor. It had nothing to do with the actions of any one person proving themselves. Galadriel just happened to be the one leader of the Noldor who CHOSE to stay. Now there is the Lament of Lorien that you are talking about in which she thinks she can not go back but that is in my opinion her own personal matter with herself. Tolkien wrote conflicting things about this so we can argue all day about it. I would prefer to use common sense and ask why she would be banned when she did not take part in the kinslaying and was not one of Feanors kin who swore the Oath. It was all self imposed and could have ended anytime. Rejecting the ring is just what made her realize her reason for leaving was over.
@@radekhladik7895 She probably could have been allowed to go back, since her father Arafinwe or Finarfin and his host turned, but his children (finrod, aegnor, angrod, and galadriel) did not. It was her own choice to stay through all the ages
Wait what , she met Celeborn after the Valar came ? No She met Celeborn in the middle of first age when she and her brother went to visit the kingdom of Thingol. But the video is very nice , keep it up 👍👍
Galadriel is definitely our favourite LotR's character! We just released a song called LORIEN inspired by her! Just in love with Tolkien's amazing world!
When I was watching The Hobbit films, I couldn’t help but notice something about Gandalf and Galadriel and it wasn’t whether or not they had feelings for each other. It was that they reminded me of the two Gods Odin and Frigga, the king and queen of Asgard. The reason why is in both their appearances and their behaviour towards one another, and the fact that Tolkien’s work was inspired by Norse mythology makes me think he added this little detail that may or may not have been noticed. This also makes me think that Sauron is inspired by the two villains of Norse mythology Loki and Sauron. That’s because they’re both personified as fire deities and that they will one day lead the forces of Darkness against the Gods on Ragnarok
As a Rabbi I find so many connections with Biblical history from Tolkien. God said "Let there be light" before the sun and moon were formed, thus there was a spiritual light that illumined reality before the sun & moon. The Garden of Eden had 2 trees (Tree of Life & Tree of Knowledge)...
Tolkien was famously a very devout Catholic. The creator God of his world, Eru Ilúvatar was surely patterned after the Judeo-Christian God while Morgoth was patterned after Lucifer. The Valars were patterned after the Greek/Roman Pantheon. In essence, he drew from the Greek/Roman myths for their more compelling stories (as compared to the Judeo-Christians myths), but being a Devout Catholic, felt the need to incorporate his monotheistic belief into the story. Iluvatar was infact, a very absent creator for most of the story.
I love this info. To be honest, I know I am missing out on a lot of understanding of the story because I never read any of the books. But I am really enjoying the shows and do some research before and after each episode. 💚💚💚
The reason she gave Gimli the three hairs actually goes back to the first age when Feanor, the Elf who made the Silmarils asked her for three of her hairs and she refused.
Galadriel was NOT born in Middle-Earth. She migrated here, and it was a long, terrible journey. Someone needs to do their homework. There are other incorrect statements in this, so don't bother with it if you want facts.
9000 years old since time was reckoned in years, its really not known how long it was before the rising of the Sun and moon and time was counted in years. Galadriel went back to Middle-earth both because she desired a Kingdom of her own but also to oppose Feanor. Still, this was against the command of the Valar so she suffered the Doom of Mandos.
@@AppleManiagaming I think you're mistaking the importance of feminism with the mis-telling of a tale told by the men who pay for the show who have only Marvel and DC to show them what a truly powerful female really is. Leaving aside that feminism was likely the furthest thing from Tolkien's mind during the writing of his histories, and that its import it has on the lives of half the people on the planet , what goes wrong here isn't just the story and how badly it's handled but OUR perception of it as well. That said, Galadriel at the time of TROP is thousands of years younger than her LOTR self. By comparison, I'm 74 and a very different person from who I was at 30. Try to imagine that multiplied by hundreds of human generations. Assuming Elves mature at the same rate that they age and the many millennia of Galadriel's life takes on an entirely new perspective.
The funny thing is there was an Elf in Tolkien's works who was that driven, that rash, that proud.. it was Fëanor. Galadriel had a bit of that in her youth, then spent most of her life trying NOT to be like him.
@@DannyJane. But they don't mature at the same rate they age. This isn't the same galadriel from the books, this is a new character with her name slapped on.
I wonder what it must have felt like for JRR to spend decades after releasing LOTR being one of a handful of people who know what the Balrog actually is. Without having the Silmarillion it just seems like a demon, but the Balrogs were all so much more than that. Releasing the Silmarillion was basically just unlocking 90% extra lore DLC for LoTR (lol). It's a shame he didn't live long enough to see it's impact on the world.
Did anyone else notice that in the movies...there was a hint at something more than friendship between Mithrandir and Galadriel? (seems like there was more to that story.) It was also unclear in the films that she was married... Her husband gave more of a "second in command" feeling, rather than "love of her life" kind of vibe.
Their only child, Celebrian, had to sail to Valinor. Celebrian was captured and tortured by orcs while trying to travel from Rivendell to Lothlorien, rescued by her twin sons, physically healed by her husband (Lord Elrond), and had to travel to Valinor for spiritual and mental healing. Galadriel and Celeborn suffered a lot in terms of family loss while they were in middle earth. Galadriel was under a restriction to not return to Valinor for quite some time. So she was separated from her own daughter by the Valar’s restriction.
It's confirmed that the new series doesn't even have the rights to the Silmarillion, which was Tolkien's book detailing the second age, so essentially the Rings of Power is basically just a poorly written fanfiction put into show form.
What I would like to see is a GoT style series on the Silmarillion,but I think there's been a problem with the Tolkien family obtaining the rights.It's obvious that a lot of younger LotR fans have not read the book.I mean,if you love Galadriel,you need to know about her four brothers,who all fought and died fighting Morgoth and his servants in the Wars of Beleriand,
there seems to be some mistaken info flying about.. she had only 3 brothers" FInrod (Felagund), Angrod, Aegnor. I think a lot of folks mistakenly stick Orodreth in there. BUt he's like a nephew or something.
@@ZakhadWOW In the published Silmarillion he is the next oldest brother after Finrod, who ruled Nargothrond after Finrod's death. Tolkien changed the family trees around quite a bit over the course of his life.
Rings of Power has basically done what most all other series from books do. Taken the story and completely changed it. Although, I admit I’m enjoying it so far… but I was hoping there would would be some way that it would eventually come around to fit with the LOTR movies… but I doubt it. Especially since in the TROP Galadriel’s husband died in battle before she ever met Souron, and also now it looks like there is a love story developing between her and Elrond, which is weird since he was supposed to have married her daughter… lol
I mean, which version? The whole family tree changed around a lot over the course of Tolkien's life. IIRC Finrod was originally the name of the character who became Finarfin and her older brother was simply named Felagund.
Who are your favorite characters from LoTR lore?
Tom Bombadil
@@andybrennand1576 damn beat me to it. I love the idea how the ring has no power on him because he is his own master
Dain ironfoot
Fingolfin, High King of the Noldor
Glorfindel
No one could have played her better. I have tears in my eyes just watching what a fantastic job she did. Great work Cate!
She is exquisitely royal. I loved her as QEI too.
She is even older than the Sun and Moon itself and saw the light of the two trees in Valinor.
Lol. Sounds like religious nonsense.
😂😂
It's rumored that Ghimli placed the hairs inside the finest crystal to preserve them....and thus Rutilated Quartz was born.
I wish more people understood the stunning depth that underlies LOTR, and thus made the effort to read the Silmarillion and Unfinished Tales.
I did. And I wish the same too.
That like wishing more people were into hard sci-fi... ...most people just don't geek or nerd out to fiction like that.
@@yeelawnmask6771 Ditto.
@@chell272Hm.. I know. Tht doesn't stop me wishing for it. Its like climate change. I know it won't stop. . But stil,l I don't stop wishing for it to end. . I make an effort to do what I can for the climate and also make an effort to introduce LOTR to my friends. And the silmallirion afterwards. Till date I have gotten 7 people to become fans of LOTR and out of them 2 have started the Silmallirion. It may not be anything! But it's a start!
Hello :) In all the books from Tolkien, in what order us it meant to be read?
Cate Blanchett was the perfect fit to play Galadriel.
Can't think of another possible actress who could have pulled it off better.
@@DenaInWyo Totally agree 100%
As a note, Galadriel gave Gimli three strands of her golden hair when he only asked for one; actually alludes to her thrice rejections of Feanor's requests for a strand of her hair. Later, it was said that it was one of the reasons Feanor made the three Simarils.
It would have been easier for him steal her hair in her sleep than forging Silmarils
Thank you Anh Le, I was hoping someone made this comment. I can't believe this crucial detail was overlooked in the making of this video. Feanor's interest in Galadriel's hair got the whole Silmaril thing started. And it helps to know exactly why her gift to Gimli was significant: it brought her personal story full circle.
Galadriel and Celeborn are like Eve and Adam in Only Lovers Left Alive - when you’re immortal it isn’t as pressing to spend all your time with a spouse you love and you can go decades without each other and it’s fine!
I am enamored by immortality. Imagine the knowledge we would acquire, the depth character would reach, and the works we would all finish.
@@joetheperformer No. Typical nature of anything living is the more you have the more you waste.
Wow. Thanks. This explains Twin Flames so much 😂
@@joetheperformerWho says we aren't already living this? :)
@@joetheperformeryou’re trippin. Not em being able to die is a curse in itself. Think about it deep and you’ll realize that. It’s probably worst than growing old.
Would like to see a film made about her story
Here for it🙌🏾
Waiting for the lotr series
Yes, but let’s wait another decade.
I feel like story expansions are complete garbage nowadays.
Star Wars is a great example.
Another is Jurassic Park.
@@joetheperformer if we wait too long, Cate Blanchett may be too old to play her. I have trouble picturing anyone else but Cate Blanchett playing her.
@@darthvader0219 Good point. Even those new "deepfake" tricks they have won't do her justice.
She gave her hair to Gimli, but not to Fëanor.
She had her own reasons
Gimli asked nicely. Thanks for pointing this out, it puts a whole different level of meaning that someone watching the movies or reading only LOTR would miss.
Feanor was a dickhead tho.
I'm pretty sure Galadriel sensed he was up to no good and distrusted Fëanor
@@OldiesMusicLover100 She was said to be wiser and of equal power. She also had all the knowedge of the Velar which no other had claim to.
I am in love with the elves and how whimsical they are like the light they exude yet they are stronger than the average man and have enhanced senses. I still remember Legolas walking on the snow! Really cool!
I remember his unlimited supply of rapid-fire arrows.
I would live to see a story within in it. He was kicking ass!
What I like about the Elves is that they never looked like the stereotype we are used to...very small, such as the ones that reside at the North Pole and assist Saint Nicholas.
The light stride over the snow is an excellent touch, without being explicitly noted, too. More obvious, but an impressive display of his elvish agility is his slide down the oliphaunt's trunk as it collapses from his deathshot to its nape! Smooth!
I love the Elves too. My favorite race.
Yes. Lady Galadriel has definitely been around the block quite a few thousand times.
The Silmarillion is an epic piece of literature. Once you get through the initial ancestry and layout of the races, the stories themselves are easily on par with The Lord of the Rings story. I just wish Tolkien had had more time to fully expand to his history and stories.
I finally go through it by listening to it "on tape." Yeah, tape, I know. One way to do it.
He fucked up with all this heavy fantasy. Deal with it
Hmmm.. I wonder where my copy has ended up. I'm pretty sure I didn't finish it back 26 years ago
don't worry woke hollywood's got this :))
@@arkasengupta1370 Yeah, he really fucked up, having literally hundreds of millions of readers and one of the most widely-published non-scripture books in all of human history. But I suppose you've done something more noteworthy?
When Galadriel went through Moria I do not believe her daughter was born yet. She was born near the beginning of the 3rd age.
Galadriel was the mother-in-law to Elrond. Grandmother-in-law to Aragorn. Talk about intimidating.
Celebrian would have been born before the War of the Elves and Sauron likely in Eregion or perhaps earlier in Evendim which Galadriel ruled for a time. Elves have children during times of peace. The end of Second Age has far too much strife. Also in the History of Galadriel and Celeborn, it states Celebrian left Eregion in 1350 of the Second Age and met Elrond in Rivendell in 1701 of the Second Age. So she was at least born before 1350.
@@christiancividino455 Your right and I am wrong. I was getting her confused with Arwen, who was born in the beginning of the third age.
Aragorn is also distantly related to her through his own lineage. The royal family of Numenor are descendants of Elros, Elrond's brother who chose to be mortal, all half elven children must choose whether to be mortal or immortal. Elros and Elrond were the sons of Earendil.
@@KenS1267 i think Elrond and Elros are King Turgon's of Gondolin great-grandchildren. Turgon is Galadriels cousin. Shes old as hell.
@@MC-or3oi and the fun part is that her parents, her maternal grandparents and paternal grandmother are still alive. Her eldest brother was reembodied too.
I really need to watch these films again
I was just thinking the same thing
Yes same here
And again, and again, and again :)
do yourself a favor and read the books instead. You'll get much more and better information..
I think I must read Silmarilion again after more than Ten years In fact I must ask my son to lend it to me !!!
Feanor asks her 3 times for a single strand of hair, which she refuses. He jealously makes 3 Silmirils. Later, she gives Gimli 3 strands of hair.
That's 6000 years of extra knowledge. She knows what happened, when she refused Feanor his request...and wouldn't dare that happening again. LOL
Lesson learned, for sure. Lol.
@@LaFaJe Well, no, that's not it at all. The point is she could read people. She refused Faenor, but gives Gimli three. This is a not her trying to avoid anything bad, but it illustrates her disapproval of Faenor and her approval of Gimli. This is further shown when she, successfully, requests to allow Gimli access.
He did not forge them in jealousy, but in mastery of his own craftsmanship and the love of his invention.
@@Tanstaafl_74 she did not disapprove of Feanor, in fact she loved her cousin very much, which is why she willingly traveled in the host with him back to Middleearth; and she gave Gimli her hair because she saw that he worships her in love unspoken.
'There's a feeling I get when I look to the west and my spirit is crying for leaving.' .........
In my thoughts I have seen rings of smoke through the trees and the voices of those who stand looking ...
And a new day will dawn for those who stand long
And the forests will echo with laughter
Bro I’m crying
To be a rock, and not to roll.
I am utterly impressed. Great video, great information, great passion for what you are doing. Thank you.
The interaction between Galadriel and Gimli is my favorite part of the story...and thats saying a lot.
Can't believe I used to compare GOT to the Lord of the Rings and the Hobbit, one of the best endings I’ve seen in my life, and I’m almost 21.
Defiantly agree lol GOT ending sucks
There really is no comparison
got is trash and rips of LOTR
Tolkien made a cover of Christianity when he wrote the Silmarillion (the elven bible), Martin made a cover of the European monarchy. Both works are extremely good but they aim for different goals. Martin's work is not finished yet, the TV Show's ending was not his own, so we have to wait for the books... if he ever finishes them. Tolkien wrote a fantastic end for the Lord of the Rings, but his core work was always the Silmarillion, and he was never able to finish it during his life. The Published Silmarillion was the best effort of Tolkien's son to compile and edit most of what his father wrote and pretended to put into this masterpiece.
@Jeremy Marsh yes, the 2010’s and 2020’s is the age of ‘Shows’
Thanks for posting this. I was confused about her backstory since the Amazon series takes place at the end of the 2nd era BUT does not show Galadriel as being married and doesn't seem to follow this at all.
So you're a racist? You *sound* like a racist.
The only thing the two elven women share is their name. Rings of Power is about a elven warrior Mary Sue who sometimes acts like a Karen, and Tolkien's Galadriel, who is a wise and powerful mage strong enough to bring down Dol Guldur's castle walls by herself!
Same. After checking, it seems Amazon's version not only doesn't use the primary source (the Silmarillion), but they've intentionally compressed the ages together and changed Galadriel's role in history. It's...unfortunate =/
The Amazon abortion is basically fan fiction by this point.
@@SD78 I wouldn't call Amazon's version a fan fiction because if a fan who has read and loves the Silmarillion and the LOTR trilogy would not have come up with the Amazon's version of Galadriel.
Amazon's Galadriel is half the size of the original one. Maybe they didn't obtain the license for the entire Galadriel...
Lol maybe
Well, he's pretty creepy, lets call him...More Goth
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Such a huge and great character. Of the mightiest elves at the time in Middle Earth. Too bad Peter Jackson made her seem so creepy although her redeemed himself a little in the Hobbit.
Cate spinning around in that long gown was breathtaking.
I never found her creepy. Only enthralling :)
I like how the elves and magic are mysterious and arcane in The Lord of The Rings. I think Peter Jackson's Galadriel helps a lot with that
To me she seemed scary powerful. Like you were either in awe or terrified of her. In the films I feel all the elven kingdom's were other worldly and I love that. I wish this new series would show some of that.
I don't think she was creepy at all
I love her backstory.
It's nice to see some people can maintain their goodness.
The new show seems to forget that elves originally came from Middle Earth then migrated to Valinor, and doesn't mention the Valars or the rebellion. She doesn't have the height, emphasis on the hair (or the connection to the Silmarils), no romance with Celeborn but instead a weird friendship with Elrond, and has a childish & abrasive personality even though she's already hundreds of years old 🙄
Well said
the writers of the show care not for canon at all. Source material is a joke for these hacks. This new Galadriel is awful. It literally ruins the whole show.
Yup. It's unwatchable.
The Rings of Power aren’t able to use the Silmarillion, they can only use the LOTR and it’s appendices to create their stories, so it’s not going to fit exactly how Tolkien wrote everything unfortunately. They did mention Celeborn however and will be doing more with their relationship as the story goes on. I think Cate Blanchett does a better Galadriel for sure but it’s not the worst show I’ve seen.
Thousands* of years’ old mate. She’s supposedly 5,000 yrs old in the series which makes even less sense since she acts like she’s only 30 in the series
What a fun watch! Honestly watched this because I wanted to know which version(s) they’d talk about - they touch on the fact that over his lifetime, Tolkien had varying different concepts of Galadriel’s backstory. Something I thought I’d mention is that one of the things he changed his mind about over time was how good of a person she was in her youth - whether super saintly or a bit power hungry. In one version, she even comes over to Middle Earth on her own for 100% pure reasons, rather than coming with her people in the initial journey across the ice mentioned in the video. It’s really fun to see folks talking about Tolkien’s Lord of the Rings backstory work in a more mainstream way. :)
Tolkien was just not capable of writing a female hero though. He gave more time to Shelob than any other female in all his stuff.
@@cejannuzihe actually did. But his interpretation of female power isnt restricted to swords and armor. There are other forms of power such as guidance and authority which galadriel encapsulates.
Valinooooooor lol ack. I wish the part about Feanor asking for strands of her hair had been mentioned, and how Gimli's request mirrored that and brought Galadriel's story full circle. I remember when I realized that she was Arwen's grandmother! 🤯Good video
Its about time that we get movies based upon the fall of Morgoth and the rising of Sauron
I'd settle for a movie as close as possible to 'The Silmarillion'. I doubt I'll see it in my lifetime though. I'm much too old.
Morgoth: “Help! I’m fallen and I can’t get up!”
The events of the first age and music of the ainur would be too hard to put on a screen
@@hazbojangles2681 We would have to join the god of Howard Shore with Hans Zimmer to compose the music of the ainur😂
@@hazbojangles2681 I think some of the tales could be filmed, like Beren and Luthien or the Children of Húrin. The latter would make a very dark movie, though.
This right here is the real Galadriel
Now this is the Galadriel we all love!
i can see the horror in your eyes, what devilry have you witness my child 😅😁
Galadriel in Rings of power is awful.
@@amberlambert7040 actually watching this video after the show so far has put her character into deeper perspective for me. It didn't ruin anything by comparison it actually made it better lmao
@@amberlambert7040 Yes the writing is absolutely awful. The version of Galadriel in Rings of Power is terrible
@@blain147 Why? I think she is fine. She could be written a little better though.
seems she had some love for Gandalf, something special
It was a mutual love of respect and admiration I believe.
The romantic interpretation of that was only in The Hobbit movies. Elves marry for (immortal) life, and they don’t cheat on their spouses.
the interactions were ambiguous but she definitely doesn't have that kind of relationship with Gandalf
I got that feeling
Care Blanchett was absolutely fantastic, and beautiful.
I read in the Silmarllion that it was Ungoliant who helped Melkor(later named Morgoth) to kill the Two Trees, She later went on to give birth to Shelob. It'll be interesting if the these guys could chronicle the history of Feanor, who forged the Silmarils, as well as the tale of Beren and Luthien, as theirs was the greatest love story until Aragorn came along
She and Nienna and Yavanna revive the two trees together.
It was. Ungoliant was a monster of unspecified nature, although it is strongly implied to be of a spider like form. It poisoned the trees and fled to Middle Earth with Morgoth where it then tried to kill him, it almost bested Morgoth until he called upon a host of Balrogs who helped him drive it off.
Both Shelob and the giant spiders in Mirkwood are descended from it so Bilbo getting Sting in the troll horde was very fortuitous.
I thought Ungoliant ate the light of Telperin and Laurelin.
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Love or hate Peter Jackson at least he tried to keep it as close to the source material as possible. Even with the hobbit the extra shit came from the silmarillion and lost tales.
He did with LotR mostly. Unfortunately, he had Faramir try to take Frodo and the Ring to Minas Tirith, just like his brother because he thought it made him more interesting. In the book, he had no interest in the Ring, which Tolkien wrote to contrast him with Boromir. Just one example, but for the most part, yeah. At least with LotR. With The Hobbit, he went full on Melkor in the Song of the Ainur.
That was very well done, interesting, as well as informative... Thank you.!.!.!
This makes much more sense than how Galadriel is portrayed in LotR: The Rings of Power by Amazon.
That's because the rings of Power by amazon, is a big bucket of elephant piss
Amazon's series is a big budget fanfic
i’m really enjoying their portrayal of the show. it’s much different, but still very enjoyable. i’m loving the characters.
I love both Galadriel ❤️⚔️🧝♀️
The narrators voice is so soothing. I can listen to it all day.
I feel sad about the way she's depicted in Amazon's Rings of Power (like a young naïve princess, way too proud, doesn’t seem to have lived thousands of years etc…), but I'm thankful for Tolkien's stories, which will always gonna be deep and fascinating
Tolkien described her young version as very proud and rebellious. I guess you haven't read the original work either
@@khristinas2117 thanks for correcting me, you’re right, I have only read TLOTR, The Hobbit and The Children of Hurin, Ill do it again with more attention I just felt a big disconnection with the cinema’s Galadriels and I get a little confused with elven ages, how old is “still young” for an elf?
@@khristinas2117 yes in VALINOR DAYS… The Amazon galadriel took place in 2nd age and she was thousands of years old already. Even in valinor days she was insightful and wise much wiser than feanor.
@@khristinas2117 Her young version BEFORE returning to Middle-earth was proud and rebellious. Like all of the few Noldor who survived the war with Morgoth, she learned a lot and was much changed by that war, and not in the way RoP portrays. As this video notes, she left Beleriand before the end of the war because she wanted nothing more to do with the war or with the sons of Fëanor.
@@khristinas2117 you are exquisitely incorrect as in the show, she is not young anymore. Also, her behavior isn't rebellious or proud. She is arrogant, crass, petulant, rude, disrespectful, childish, immature, and sooo many more terribly pathetic traits. The writers have butchered her and the entire show is a flop. a billion dollar dumpster fire.
I wish the ,"creator's, " of the new," Lord of the Rings," series would actually use this back history and actually follow the story as it was meant to be.
They can't for legal reasons.
Well that was wishful thinking
@@carlosgarciasanchez wait really? Why? I didnt know that
Yes. They should follow this. Because this wouldn't get them into a billion dollar lawsuit, genius.
@@MaxxSeemov whyyy
This is the real powerful and magical Galadriel we know from the book while The Ring of Power showing her using sword and dagger destroying her image, killing ice troll using Super Mario style and finish with a dagger poke, YIKE!
Granted, that’s her 8,000 years younger- and purportedly “athletic”
@@jennabaram6223 yes, but High elf is chanted with magical being, even if she is younger age should show us she kill the troll using her magic + sword skill and not Super Mario jump. also her face no expressions at all fighting such creature, try watch LOTR fellowship, they are scare, exhausted, and put alot effort to take down cave troll, while Legolas is in Anxious and Panic when his companions almost get slap by the troll, but Gimlin still busy whacking goblin avenging Moria, that funny as heck.
Who gives a crap.
@@carlosgarciasanchez people who immerse themselves in a fantasy world care a great deal because lore is important and things like this are “lore breaking” and take you out of the world. The lore breaking in Disney Star Wars has killed my interest in the Star Wars universe
@@gary36yo8313 well it is fantasy after all so chill out...
This should be made into film . Another trilogy. The battle , the migration, the union, the split of elven tribes, the Valor entering the final battle , it would be epic.
It would have been well worth mentioning that Feanor (the mightiest and greatest Elf to ever live) was Galadriel's uncle.
And that Galadriel was second only to Feanor in power among the elves. She was mighty indeed, yet did not seek power.
I think the mightiest is Fingolfin while Feanor is the greatest craftman and Galadriel is the wisest.
@@artilleryjunky5737 Feanor is the mightiest Elf in all things to ever live. This has been stated in several different ways,
@@integritymatters5114 i'm pretty sure she followed feanor cause she wanted a kingdom of her own
@@TerroristNeutralizer Yea, Tolkien wrote Feaonor was strongest in hand mind and work of craft. He solo'd balrogs :O and only died when Gothmeg with a small army of balrogs surrounded him.
There were more members of the White Council than those that appeared in the films, including Glorfindal, an incredibly powerful elf lord who was completely omitted from the movies
yep, he came back from the dead and is about as old as galadriel
He appears in return of the King, but he’s in a Background shot. Pretty much my only gripe about Jackson’s movies. Would have loved to have seen more from him.
And I think Cirdan the Shipwright was also part of this council; the oldest Elf in Middle Earth.
I think movie viewers would have had a harder time understanding why such a mighty Elf warrior wasn't included in the Fellowship.
LOOK AT HER, She's perfect, such finesse, enchanting, calm, collected, powerful and magical. And then Amazon came.😒
@@ribos2762 I will shamelessly borrow words from your comments, "behold the lady of Lothlorien, the protector of the golden woods, the scourge of Orcs and Trolls, Galadriel the Barbarian!"
This is the best accepted final canon coverage of Galadriel I've come across in a while. [Thank you Christopher Tolkien, for sharing your father's insights.] Yes, Galadriel was among the top athletes beating male competitors. She was a top lore master who became even better for knowing Melian the maia. As one with Vanyar heritage through her mother Galadriel was exceptionally close to the powers that shaped and organized the world. This is in stark contrast to rop funded by a billionaire who could never imagine Tolkien's Galadriel as it might make Jeff feel less almighty than he is.
Fun fact: Morgoth, the source of all corruption in the world, had skills to mimic, and much knowledge of all of the valar even the mightiest of the kings of valar, except one vala, who he feared and hated more than any other, the queen of the valar, Varda, the valar of Light. I have no doubt Jeff had to hire writers that could diminish Galadriel as she echoes Varda in Tolkien's writings.
After Sauron was overthrown, Celeborn led the Galadhrim (the Elves of Lórien, Sindarin for 'Tree-people') to clear out southern Mirkwood. Galadriel threw down Dol Guldur and cleansed its pits BY HERSELF, and without assistance from Nenya, the Elven ring powerless since the One Ring was destroyed. The actual Galadriel puts the Amazon portrayal to shame.
I guess Amazon didn't get the memo.
What she granted Gimli the dwarve, she rejected when asked by Feanor - three times. Remarkble.
Watched this thinking I might learn something new even though I know the lore well. And...never knew Gimli was allowed to sail West. Thank you!
@Torsar It's in the Appendix, I forget where exactly. It's at the end of the yearly chronicle, I believe. Legolas and Gimli build a ship and travel to Valinor, where Galadriel uses her influence to get Gimli in.
yEP, after LoTR main story, Elessar (Aragorn and Arewn have kids, and eventually Elessar dies at 200 years or something.. In the meantime GImli took some of his people to Helm's Deep and settled in the caves there he discovered during that battle. Aglarond, I believe the name is. Later when Legolas finally gets suckered by the call of the sea, He goes back and grabs GImli and they sail away to Valinor. There's also some dispute over whether Samwise eventually took a ship for Valinor, as the very last of the Ringbearers in ME. If so, that was truly the last elven ship to leave ME. THe remainiing elves in the woodland areas never had the call to go.
@@mordechai- The Tale of Years.
you forgot that one time when she swam all the way from Valinor back to Middle Earth.
that was a bad dream she had when she was a child
We watch the same show? She got picked up by a boat. Twice
@@Ren-hw4ne you know how many people get lost in the sea and we never find them again? a tiny teeny boat finding a woman in the middle of the ocean
top writing
@@eastbow6053 it's fiction. How many elves do you know?
@@Ren-hw4ne you're right! treat yourself to a cookie!
Using this Video as a Time line for Galadriel. At what point is she the sword swinging, mountain climbing, stranded at sea Galadriel? That we see in Rings of Power? The narrator doesnt mention any of this.
I'm pretty sure this came out way before ROP, also Amazon screwed the lore it seems
@@lazaf3848 yes. But the books came out way before any movies or cartoons it tv shows. I’m ok with people picking up the ball and running with it and taking the story further. Creating content that fills in gaps. As long as current information isn’t contradicted.
There are moments in the books that might speak of moments and memories and incidences that mention Aragorns childhood. But it doesn’t speak of his everyday adventures. You could write a tv series on Aragorn. You could invent all kinds of stories and adventures. You could fill in that entire gap of unspoken moments. AS LONG ….. as your stories do not contradict what is already written. I’m no Tolkien expert. But I’m under the impression. More than just gaps are being filled. Thing are being changed. And to me ….. that is a no no. If your going to be successful while riding another coat tail. Don’t cut and mend the coat tail.
She is amazing. My favorite Middle earth character by far.
Wow I had no idea lord of the rings had so much lore this is amazing !!! And yes I'm brand spanking new to all this and I'm HYPE !!
She has always been my favorite
The Rings of Power is an act of Vandalism, pure and simple. Can you imagine what Tolkien would say if he saw that show!?
He would have deleted his amazon account and will go back to his coffin
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2:43 A large faction of elves DECIDES to reject ITS protection. One faction. Requires singular verbs to agree in number with subject of sentence.
A large faction of Elves decide to reject the protection of the *Valar* (plural). The group of Elves isn’t rejecting its own protection
@@ethanquirk28 By gum, you're right. That's what happens when I use videographs as background to other doings.
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Wow, this is great. The Amazon series can only be described as a wild, toad venom-induced, tangent. While some of the visuals are absolutely beautiful, they failed to honor much of the source material. The idea of Galadriel with a sword is folly at best; for what earthly purpose would she need one?
The history of the First and Second Ages is just 💯💯
I wish she had a larger role in the films
This video forgot to mention the Ban of the Valar. She was banned from returning to Valinor because of the atrocities she took part in when leaving Valinor (aka the kinslaight). And the ban has been lifted only bcause of her deeds during War of the ring, especially her refusal to take the ring from Frodo... That is why she said that she passed the test, will diminish and go to the west....
The ban was against all the Noldor, regardless of their part. Galadriel actually did NOT take part in the Kinslaying at Alqualondë and in fact loathed Feänor and his sons for it. The Elves slain there were of the Teleri which was the kin of her mother.
@@fogeltje And? I mean what does it change? The facts are: 1) she was one of the leaders thus making her responsible even though she did not took part in it herself nor though that she loathed Feanor afterwards.... 2) She was a very active and vocal leader and thus the ban was more strict for her than for the Noldor in general. Basically it was like "If you leave, you will be banned from returning", "We are leaving, we do not want to return, we can do it better,...."
So I think that it would be nice to mention that she was in Middle Earth de facto in exile and it is fair to say that she was co-responsible for all the bad things that happen because of the Noldor leaving the Valinor...
@@radekhladik7895 the ban ended after the War of Wrath when the Valar forgave all the remaining Noldor. It had nothing to do with the actions of any one person proving themselves. Galadriel just happened to be the one leader of the Noldor who CHOSE to stay. Now there is the Lament of Lorien that you are talking about in which she thinks she can not go back but that is in my opinion her own personal matter with herself. Tolkien wrote conflicting things about this so we can argue all day about it. I would prefer to use common sense and ask why she would be banned when she did not take part in the kinslaying and was not one of Feanors kin who swore the Oath. It was all self imposed and could have ended anytime. Rejecting the ring is just what made her realize her reason for leaving was over.
@@radekhladik7895 She probably could have been allowed to go back, since her father Arafinwe or Finarfin and his host turned, but his children (finrod, aegnor, angrod, and galadriel) did not. It was her own choice to stay through all the ages
She didn't took part on those atrocities
Would be great to see an video comparing this lore to how the rings of power are portraying her.
A friend is watching it and she keeps me updated & I get so annoyed my catchphrase has become "that didn't happen!"
Wait what , she met Celeborn after the Valar came ?
No
She met Celeborn in the middle of first age when she and her brother went to visit the kingdom of Thingol.
But the video is very nice , keep it up 👍👍
Galadriel is definitely our favourite LotR's character! We just released a song called LORIEN inspired by her! Just in love with Tolkien's amazing world!
When I was watching The Hobbit films, I couldn’t help but notice something about Gandalf and Galadriel and it wasn’t whether or not they had feelings for each other. It was that they reminded me of the two Gods Odin and Frigga, the king and queen of Asgard. The reason why is in both their appearances and their behaviour towards one another, and the fact that Tolkien’s work was inspired by Norse mythology makes me think he added this little detail that may or may not have been noticed.
This also makes me think that Sauron is inspired by the two villains of Norse mythology Loki and Sauron. That’s because they’re both personified as fire deities and that they will one day lead the forces of Darkness against the Gods on Ragnarok
As a Rabbi I find so many connections with Biblical history from Tolkien. God said "Let there be light" before the sun and moon were formed, thus there was a spiritual light that illumined reality before the sun & moon. The Garden of Eden had 2 trees (Tree of Life & Tree of Knowledge)...
Tolkien was famously a very devout Catholic. The creator God of his world, Eru Ilúvatar was surely patterned after the Judeo-Christian God while Morgoth was patterned after Lucifer. The Valars were patterned after the Greek/Roman Pantheon. In essence, he drew from the Greek/Roman myths for their more compelling stories (as compared to the Judeo-Christians myths), but being a Devout Catholic, felt the need to incorporate his monotheistic belief into the story. Iluvatar was infact, a very absent creator for most of the story.
the elves have a very interesting history they should explore it in the upcoming series
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I love this info. To be honest, I know I am missing out on a lot of understanding of the story because I never read any of the books. But I am really enjoying the shows and do some research before and after each episode. 💚💚💚
The reason she gave Gimli the three hairs actually goes back to the first age when Feanor, the Elf who made the Silmarils asked her for three of her hairs and she refused.
Feanor only asked her for 1 she refused but she gave gimli 3 when he only asked her for 1 which is amazing
This video should have been sent to the creators of rings of power
Beautiful summary, my gratitude.
What a coincidence! I'm watching LOTR trilogy these days. Neat! ❤️
the extended versions are pretty cool
Very well done. Thank you!
Galadriel was NOT born in Middle-Earth. She migrated here, and it was a long, terrible journey. Someone needs to do their homework. There are other incorrect statements in this, so don't bother with it if you want facts.
Still more accurate than what's in the Rings of Power show though, but yea, fair point.
@@norrecvizharan1177 They actually show exactly that. She migrates to Middle Earth in the first episode.
This is the true story of Galadriel. I'll have none of that Amazon BS.
Wait a minute ,you mean she didnt swim the entre sundering sea?
The most famous elf woman in Middle Earth?
Only in our world.
In Middle Earth itself, I think that honour goes to Luthièn.
Technically, Half-elf, though her other half was Maia.
@@natty4bumpo - Fair point. Perhaps Galadriel was the most famous full-blooded elf.
9000 years old since time was reckoned in years, its really not known how long it was before the rising of the Sun and moon and time was counted in years. Galadriel went back to Middle-earth both because she desired a Kingdom of her own but also to oppose Feanor. Still, this was against the command of the Valar so she suffered the Doom of Mandos.
What posessed the RoP showrunners to think that a sword wielding, self-righteous brat is cooler than an immortal enchantress
Modern feminism.
@@AppleManiagaming I think you're mistaking the importance of feminism with the mis-telling of a tale told by the men who pay for the show who have only Marvel and DC to show them what a truly powerful female really is. Leaving aside that feminism was likely the furthest thing from Tolkien's mind during the writing of his histories, and that its import it has on the lives of half the people on the planet , what goes wrong here isn't just the story and how badly it's handled but OUR perception of it as well.
That said, Galadriel at the time of TROP is thousands of years younger than her LOTR self. By comparison, I'm 74 and a very different person from who I was at 30. Try to imagine that multiplied by hundreds of human generations. Assuming Elves mature at the same rate that they age and the many millennia of Galadriel's life takes on an entirely new perspective.
The funny thing is there was an Elf in Tolkien's works who was that driven, that rash, that proud.. it was Fëanor. Galadriel had a bit of that in her youth, then spent most of her life trying NOT to be like him.
@@brucetucker4847 Good observation.
@@DannyJane. But they don't mature at the same rate they age. This isn't the same galadriel from the books, this is a new character with her name slapped on.
Is it possible to feel nearly in love with a literary character? :)
My favourite character in ring of power
Did i miss the part where they mention that Arwen is Galadriel's granddaughter or did they not? Seems like a big piece of lore to skip...
What about the time she was sent to the undying lands and jumped off the boat to swim all the way back to middle earth? Bloody Amazon.
why amazon ?? why ???
😂😂😂
I find the background music to be very unfitting :/
I wonder what it must have felt like for JRR to spend decades after releasing LOTR being one of a handful of people who know what the Balrog actually is. Without having the Silmarillion it just seems like a demon, but the Balrogs were all so much more than that. Releasing the Silmarillion was basically just unlocking 90% extra lore DLC for LoTR (lol). It's a shame he didn't live long enough to see it's impact on the world.
In the books Galadriel calls Celeborn one of the wisest in middle earth, but in the books he doesn’t come off that way. Anyone have a take on that?
Did anyone else notice that in the movies...there was a hint at something more than friendship between Mithrandir and Galadriel? (seems like there was more to that story.) It was also unclear in the films that she was married... Her husband gave more of a "second in command" feeling, rather than "love of her life" kind of vibe.
This was just made in the movies but in the books her and gandalf were nothing but .. Lets say friends there was never something more then that
Their only child, Celebrian, had to sail to Valinor. Celebrian was captured and tortured by orcs while trying to travel from Rivendell to Lothlorien, rescued by her twin sons, physically healed by her husband (Lord Elrond), and had to travel to Valinor for spiritual and mental healing.
Galadriel and Celeborn suffered a lot in terms of family loss while they were in middle earth. Galadriel was under a restriction to not return to Valinor for quite some time. So she was separated from her own daughter by the Valar’s restriction.
stop making shit up.
Olorin (Gandalf) and Galadriel had known each other for thousands of years....
This seems to contradict the storyline in the new Lord of the Rings TV series.
T series isnt cannon
The series is some made up bullshit
It's confirmed that the new series doesn't even have the rights to the Silmarillion, which was Tolkien's book detailing the second age, so essentially the Rings of Power is basically just a poorly written fanfiction put into show form.
I’m no lord of the rings expert, but makes sense. Gotta have a love story -so they gassed the hubby. Lol
@@norrecvizharan1177 silmarillion was the first and second age.
The makers of the Rings of Power should have watched this first.
What I would like to see is a GoT style series on the Silmarillion,but I think there's been a problem with the Tolkien family obtaining the rights.It's obvious that a lot of younger LotR fans have not read the book.I mean,if you love Galadriel,you need to know about her four brothers,who all fought and died fighting Morgoth and his servants in the Wars of Beleriand,
there seems to be some mistaken info flying about.. she had only 3 brothers" FInrod (Felagund), Angrod, Aegnor. I think a lot of folks mistakenly stick Orodreth in there. BUt he's like a nephew or something.
@@ZakhadWOW In the published Silmarillion he is the next oldest brother after Finrod, who ruled Nargothrond after Finrod's death. Tolkien changed the family trees around quite a bit over the course of his life.
Rings of Power has basically done what most all other series from books do. Taken the story and completely changed it. Although, I admit I’m enjoying it so far… but I was hoping there would would be some way that it would eventually come around to fit with the LOTR movies… but I doubt it. Especially since in the TROP Galadriel’s husband died in battle before she ever met Souron, and also now it looks like there is a love story developing between her and Elrond, which is weird since he was supposed to have married her daughter… lol
imagine how this videowould have been if the music was a bit more suitable to the lore (sorry not this ... tech future sound...
So glad this popped up as I’m watching the new LOTR show. Her story seems so different from this but still interesting.
who's here after rings of power(series) teaser?? 😝
This was helpful
Galadriel's "Entire Backstory" without talking or even naming her father and brothers... But taking one minute to explain the origin of the orcs...
I mean, which version? The whole family tree changed around a lot over the course of Tolkien's life. IIRC Finrod was originally the name of the character who became Finarfin and her older brother was simply named Felagund.