How to 'drop' the clutch but keep traction on dirt bikes︱Cross Training Enduro
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 15 ก.ค. 2015
- crosstrainingenduro.com tractionerag.com How to 'drop' the clutch but keep traction on dirt bikes... which lets you do obstacles with short run ups on dirt bikes! How to ride dirt bikes using enduro skills and dirt bike techniques - just like the top riders! This vid about controlled dropping of the clutch is the next step from our basic clutch training vid (www.youtube.com/watch?v=pbWioM...) and provides good acceleration when combined with weighting the pegs. Dropping the clutch is also critical for a lot of advanced techniques, such as maximum momentum in a short run up. Check out all the cross training enduro skills and dirt riding techniques. So... How to do obstacles with short run ups on dirt bikes?
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Dropping the clutch to get wheelspin and roost is a favourite when we first start dirt riding as it takes very little skill. But in trials riding, wheelspin is a cardinal sin and yet trials riders are dropping the clutch all the time.
Trials riding may not appear to share much with dirt riding - much of the action happens at walking speed - but the balance, precise, traction and clutch skills help with enduro riding, especially for hard enduro and traction and shot run ups. The growing interest in extreme enduro led to an upsurge in trials riding riding internationally, and many dirt riders are now joining trials clubs to improve their overall technique for basic dirt riding or hard enduro for short run ups and dropping the clutch.
This controlled dropping of the clutch takes a lot of skill to get maximum drive with minimum wheelspin, and it forms the foundation for many techniques in extreme enduro riding, whether it is jumping gaps, wheelies, pivoting over logs, or jumping up vertical banks.... and how to do obstacles with short run ups on enduro bikes.
This may look easy, but it takes careful balance of the throttle and clutch, which needs to be timed with your weighting of the footpegs. What is the common feature of all the world's best extreme enduro riders? They are all former trials champions who applied who have applied trials techniques to their dirt riding skills to tackle some of the world's toughest extreme enduro events. As your body gets higher, this raises your centre of gravity so the bike is more likely to go into a wheelie so you may need to apply less throttle once your legs are straight.
As Graham Jarvis says "Going fast is the easy bit, it’s going slowly that will help you develop control." As you get better control over the clutch and weighting the pegs, try this controlled dropping the clutch when tackling larger logs and other obstacles.
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Great advice guys! Always fun watching your videos and putting them into practice!
Great job once again. For a beginner it's priceless.
Thanks for sharing the knowledge.
Eggshellent and very informative sir.
ALL riders should understand this concept. Control and traction. I just started riding so I do not really have bad habits yet, I want to try and form only good habits. Videos are definitely helpful!!!
Stephen Boykin yep, birchy's mantra when he was coaching us was balance, traction and control.
great videos!!
thats some great footage and advice :)
Fantastic! I have been working on this skill as well but am not nearly as competent so this exercise should be great. I always look forward to your videos. Keep posting and many thanks!
Chain Driven it's hard getting the timing right... you can see in the vid i still tend to wheelie away every time i do this. :-(
Great video. I have been trying to work on this technique for quite some time. After recent storms in our area. The trails have had a ton of fallen trees. If i could only get the hang of it. Im tired of wrecking. Lol. I admire your skill. You seem to have it nailed down. Keep the videos coming...
N D thanks ND although i still can't work the clutch drop into the double blip technique for logs and vertical faces which is going to be a big challenge. :-( got a lot of clutch control happening in my last year on the trials bike, a lot of catching up to do as i'd been using a rekluse before that.
I wish this video was posted earlier cause I was doing some log hops today in a very small area and I was just spinning the rear wheel. definitely will try this tomorrow, thanks for the tips keep them coming.
SouthArkansasAirsoft i should have done this vid ages ago, but put it up now as there'll be a vid on log hops and incorporating the clutch soonish...
Great video!
You make it look so easy
On my first attempts of jumping using a two by four as a kicker i barely got the techique right one time out of ten.
It was a real eye opener to just how important throttle and clutch control is.
But when i got my big xr600 properly in the air i landed with a huge smile, a sweatty one.
Thank you for all your inform- and inspiration
from an austrian on an australian xr
Kalimerakis you are doing well if you are using kickers with an XR600!
I was bummed when I saw this vid posted 2 days ago and didn't see it then. But none the less video was super helpful and I had never tried to weight the pegs!
PS. I would defiantly buy one of those riding DVD's, just as long as it ships to the U.S.
keep up the hard work, your time and effort are very appreciated!
Hunter Davidson i think i was instinctively weighting the pegs but it was good to have chris birch cover this in our recent coaching session, i'm trying to do it all the time now and it makes a big difference in loose terrain or when you have minimal runup.
long live enduro
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Awesome video. I struggle with this trying to do balance point wheelies so that I can learn to do pivot turns. A lot of our flatter areas I can practice on are dry and dusty. Sometimes the front wheel pops up instantly, other times it just spins. Bouncing on the pegs always scares be because it does wheelie so easily, but maybe I need to invest in some titanium gonads.
tarded400 lol yes those titanium gonads can be expensive unless you get the chinese ones on ebay but i suspect they are just a low grade alloy. i think covering the rear brake is critical before learning wheelies, it gives so much more confidence once it becomes second nature to tap that rear brake pedal once you are past the balance point. th-cam.com/video/IFCwwugCwaA/w-d-xo.html
amazing channel, very good video and driving skills. Respect from Russia.
Ale Sau spasibo! or is it spasiba? i see both sometimes and my russian is limited to four words. :)
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That sir is an excellent video, as we are used to from you. But this one I think will be especially useful for me. This is very much like the "zap" trials riders use to perform the "splat". Not that I'll be doing any splats soon on my 500. But I've been working on refining my balance (I was practicing in the garage with the TV on and a beer in my hand, but realized I wouldn't improve as long as the bike was on the stand...) and working on slow maneuvering to conquer difficult situations. Balance, the clutch drop (zap if you will), and the ability to hold pressure and keep the front end elevated and controlled. With my short inseam (long fat body, short fat legs), refined control is especially important for me. I've made some gains of late and your videos have been instrumental.
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gncc1race actually we just did our first semi-splats the other day, they'll be in the next ride vid. it wasn't on to a vertical face but that's what we are slowly working toward.... gulp
So I have watched just about everything you have posted and can't thank you all enough for your time and persistence. I've started riding at the ripe old age of 45 and have a 2014 KTM 250 XCFW and you lads help me to ride it better with each video. Using the word arse also appeals to this Irishman too!!... ;) I know you all are great users of GoPro and go to exhausting lengths to show very visually informative as well as verbal instruction but one thing I have not been able to find a video of (anywhere) is exactly the what the timing of the throttle to clutch should be. You gas it then pop the clutch to get the wheel up - but when do you pop it, right after you give it gas, do you wait a second, what is "popping" anyway - letting it out all the way and immediately, feeding it out a tad faster than normal??? I know these are probably very basic questions and improvement comes through riding but for an old Engineer like me (and maybe others) I can't see why it wouldn't be very informative. There are too many "clutch control" vids on youtube with riders keeping their brush guards on - Thats like asking a young Ray Charles to watch a video on how to play the piano :) So If you guys can finally get off your arse's and make a vid or 2 ;) - do you think its possible to mount GoPro's to show the throttle and clutch in one screen to give us middle aged Graham Jarvis wannabe's the visual key to tear up the back yard to piss the missus off even more and finally get something else up in the house - I'm talking about my front wheel ;) Cheers lads - fantastic series!
+David Byrne interesting idea david and i'll keep it in mind. the timing varies depending on what you are trying to do... we'd probably need to rig the camera up on the bars of a seriously good rider though to cover the whole spectrum of timing...
You nailed it with the timing. Different obstacles require different amounts of clutch and throttle input and some obstacles require it to be done twice to just get over one so if you lads ever do get a chance to rig something, I'd bet a Brian O Driscoll jersey that you may even surprise yourselves as to what it might show you ;) And if you think that us subscribers wouldn't consider you lads good riders then I might just sell that feckin bike now!! Me Dad always corrected me when I said practice makes perfect, he'd say "No - perfect practice makes perfect" Your gang has proven that!!
Is it ok if, while amazing to watch and inspiring, most of this shit frankly scares the piss out of me to try in practice?
lol yes i think that's pretty standard for most of us with harder techniques
hey, can you do a clutch tutorial with clutch lever footage? maybe with 2 hd heros.
+florian558866 if we did it would be ages away as we've got so many other topics to cover
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a second camera angle in one of your upcoming vids would be great ;)
So... after watching all these videos, multiple times, I've come to the conclusion that controlled dropping of the clutch to generate traction may be the single most important skill. The problem is, I totally suck at it. One of two things happens: 1) my YZ250 bogs to the point of nearly stopping the engine when I drop the clutch or 2) I give it more power which puts me on the pipe and the thing takes off like a rocket, giving me whiskey throttle (because I've got my weight back on the rear wheel) , and the only thing that saves my arse is my one finger death-gripping the clutch.
Wrong motor. YZ250 is a motocross bike. This technique is not used on the MX track. It's strictly an enduro technique. Enduro engines produce much more torque at low revs. The MX bikes pack all the power into the high rev range. Try it on a enduro bike and you will feel a world of difference.
This is one technique I can't seem to get down. Am I pulling up on the bars? I naturally try to pull up, but it ends up hurting my wrists. I feel like maybe I shouldn't actually be having to pull up on the bars to get the front wheel up. Advice would be appreciated, your videos are inspiring helpful!
see the short practical wheelie vid, aaron
Naive question. Do you think there is much difference in this technique between the ~300cc two strokes you boys ride, and larger 4 stroke machines? I know the power delivery can be quite different, but I assume the technique still works? not that I have much interest in jumping logs with my DR650, but just wondering.
SuperOrcy for cross training the two strokes definitely make the more advanced techniques easier. having said that, i still think it's 80% rider skill, 20% the bike. any top rider will still do the most advanced stuff on a 450 4T enduro... not sure about a DR650 although i did a vid showing why the DR is superior to any ktm: th-cam.com/video/VJMYMC4jxKM/w-d-xo.html
Hi mate! How many fingers do you use to pull in the clutch? I am using my middle 3 fingers which is very clumsey and is almost 'on/off' not good I know! But if I try using 1 or 2 fingers I am crushing a my remaining fingers with the clutch lever... This then puts me of and revert back to 'controlling' the bike with throttle alone!
Scott Merchant always one finger as per our body positioning vid and heaps of the other training vids. all the top extreme enduro riders ride like that, and the majority of experienced dirt riders as far as i know.
Scott Merchant Your clutch needs adjustment. You may also have warped plated. You should be able to feel the clutch disengaging with only a small amount of movement at the clutch lever, and it should be fully disengaged a little before it hits your outer 2 fingers (no drag, bike doesn't creep forward, can easily go between 1st and neutral and back again without any extra effort). This is why hydraulic clutches are heaven as they are very smooth, responsive and almost never go out of adjustment. If its a cable clutch be sure to not tighten the cable too much. To ensure you are getting solid engagement, plod along at low rpm in 4th gear, pull the clutch in, rev the engine up a few thousand revs then dump the clutch. The engine revs should drop back down near instantly. If not then either the cable is too tight or you have worn plates
Thanks for the replies, much appreciated. I have a Ktm 300 with the hydraulic clutch and working perfectly, it's just the operator (me) I only feel comfy using the clutch with first 3 fingers (but lack control) then when I try using 1 or 2 fingers I end up having a 'panic moment' where I snatch the clutch (hence this is when I trap the rest of my fingers lol)
Go through his beginners practice videos such as practicing standing still on the pegs then taking off. Practise on hills, creeping along at below idle speed in 2nd etc and you'll have it nailed in no time because you are so constantly on and off the clutch, can't really take your fingers off. That'll have it nailed in no time
Perfect thanks for your reply mate, I'll practice that. I've not done it like that before so will deffo have a go 👍
How bad is it on the bike to give quite a bit of throttle and drop the clutch?
Not bad at all. Wet clutches are designed with this in mind. I've been flogging the same clutch on a Honda CRF250X for 2 years now and the disks are still in spec! Go for it.
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I love hearing the trails ride rev the poo out of their bike and clutch drop while still keeping traction.
Another insight... A $3000 fine or loss of one testicle as a penalty for wheelspin likely explains the lack of popularity for trials here in the States. Just sayin'.
gncc1race true. i had a much deeper voice before i started trials riding.
LOL!!
you make it look easy ....but its not
It definitely takes practice, Andy. Sometimes it's not as hard as it seems though. I have seen guys take a structured approach and learn the basics first, practice hard, then the more advanced stuff starts to flow pretty rapidly.
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