James Hetfield Opens up about Jason Newsted

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  • @HELLYEAH1313
    @HELLYEAH1313 ปีที่แล้ว +1229

    Cliff would be proud of Jason. Jason was an incredible addition, I have always loved his work with the band.

    • @diamondjoe100
      @diamondjoe100 ปีที่แล้ว

      Absomotherfuckinglutely 🤘

    • @smanvir94
      @smanvir94 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@simonschaffrath3040man like Jasonic

    • @Ja_s-per
      @Ja_s-per ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I'd agree,
      🇺🇸🙏🇺🇸

    • @ericrojasvelez8891
      @ericrojasvelez8891 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Actually he was the perfect choice and the only one who fill the shoes....at that time james and lars so much full of crap and still today....kill em all was and is something else but out the 4 albums and best albums they got all the hype about puppets and lightning was and still a better album...black album the 5th is basically when they turn hairband...anyway...puppets...lightning...kill...and justice as the best record and years they had....when you listen to them talk shit they said justice is the worst album they got and as a fan they full of shit....everything from self title until today 2023 is bullshit.....and nothing but crap...I actually tough they back when I hear the day that never come until I hear the whole album...crap it was just st.anger but recorded right

    • @sajjadsafari6391
      @sajjadsafari6391 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      The tragedy of the bass player is never ending for Metallica. Jason was the best replacement for Cliff, who left the second bassist tragedy for Metallica.

  • @mneugent7658
    @mneugent7658 ปีที่แล้ว +636

    In many ways visually Jason WAS the live show. He was an absolute monster on that stage.

    • @tristramcoffin926
      @tristramcoffin926 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      I was thinking about that too and how much it matters. It seems superficial sorta but when Jason got those curls swinging on the heavy thrash parts that presence of the band is what I remember most seeing them on stage. Jason wasn't just great musically, he was great visually and was an invaluable complement to the rest of the band. He just looked so bad ass metal.

    • @faisalbaig5306
      @faisalbaig5306 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Oh absolutely!!!!!

    • @williamdaley1516
      @williamdaley1516 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      He was the spirit of the band. My God he was fun to watch. Plus the fn backing vocals were on point. Don't get me wrong, Robert is a mammoth player. The thing is, I want to hear him back in Infectious Grooves or ST. He really shined with those two bands.

    • @samhain6953
      @samhain6953 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Coming from F&J he wasnt new to it

    • @mneugent7658
      @mneugent7658 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@provisionalhypothesis You replied to the wrong person. I didn't say he was the spirit of the band. But on that note the guy who said that was referring to the time he was in the band and we were talking about the live shows.

  • @achillesalexander5327
    @achillesalexander5327 ปีที่แล้ว +921

    I miss The Jason Newsted era of Metallica, they were truly at their peak with him, he brought out the best in Metallica

    • @lancemanyon7645
      @lancemanyon7645 ปีที่แล้ว +33

      Their peak musically was Ride The Lightning, MOP, And Justice and the Black album and it would stand against any band including Beatles and the Stones of any genre of music. Cliff was an original and a fantastic musician gone way too soon but I saw Metallica in Philly during the Year and a Half in the life touring and Jason was a force live and deserves a ton of credit. He just wasn’t Cliff in their eyes

    • @penttij5817
      @penttij5817 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Hell right 🤘🏻

    • @kurthanke5788
      @kurthanke5788 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      ​@@lancemanyon7645 Jason was a great bassist, while Cliff was mediocre, at best. Jason did NOT deserve the treatment he got from the so-called other three

    • @timbob1145
      @timbob1145 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Jason was an absolute beast

    • @tristramcoffin926
      @tristramcoffin926 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      me too

  • @xodiaq
    @xodiaq ปีที่แล้ว +530

    Saw them twice with Jason, and he was full throttle the entire damn time, he was the bridge between the band and the audience, without a doubt.

    • @mazklassa9338
      @mazklassa9338 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Good statement!

    • @briandrum1
      @briandrum1 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Same here. First time in 1989 and the second was 1992 after James’ hand was burned. His stage presence was what drew the audience in. Since then I’ve seen them with Rob twice. Both of those shows were just meh. It’s almost like they’re more concerned about how they look on stage (Lars with his ridiculous faces he makes) than how they sound on stage. Who knows….maybe someday Jason will be back. Doubtful, but you can be hopeful!

    • @jtirello3_111
      @jtirello3_111 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Bravo. I couldn’t have said it better.

    • @Metalton95
      @Metalton95 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      "he was the bridge between the band and the audience, without a doubt" has to be the best way to put Jason's authenticity (and youthful stage energy) into words, well said!

    • @BakedNConfused
      @BakedNConfused ปีที่แล้ว

      What years ?

  • @SO-ym3zs
    @SO-ym3zs ปีที่แล้ว +389

    My feelings toward the band have never been the same after I learned how they treated him. He was the most metal of any of them on stage and radiated charisma and energy and joy. And they tried to beat him down and still apparently can't just man up and say, "We were horrible and wrong and we're sorry."

    • @tiborosz1825
      @tiborosz1825 ปีที่แล้ว

      He bullshited himself in the band with his crappy bass knowledge. He should never have been in metallica. He made millions cause he was along for the ride and he took shit for money. His solo album also sucks.

    • @stanknugget
      @stanknugget ปีที่แล้ว +8

      The most metal of all of them? lol. Grow up.

    • @johnlennon6790
      @johnlennon6790 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      100% agree. I followed them from Ride the Lightning, Master of Puppets was my favorite album, bought it at 16 years old the day it came out, ran home to my tape player and have never been the same since. I simply adored that band, and their anti radio anti-pop attitude and we all loved it.
      Then load and reload happened and I completely left and have not cared for really much of their music at all since, not because it got lighter but because it got more pop and simplified regurgitated radio-friendly nonsense.
      Then I learned how they treated Jason, and that has sealed it for me, I will never give a crap about these guys like I did before, I can't stand them as people. And their newest album is forgettable stock riff nonsense trying to be "hard".
      Opeth is a great example of a band who got lighter and softer and deeper and better, stayed artistic and authentic. Too bad Metallica didn't go that route.

    • @OpheliaDarkling
      @OpheliaDarkling ปีที่แล้ว +38

      @@stanknugget what is metal without its fans? That enthusiasm and loyalty kept them all going. He was a fan and he never faltered. The other 3 all were compromised and preoccupied with the fame and fortune and unresolved issues. Therefore, yes, they were "less metal" in that regard than Jason was for lack of a better term. But that's what happens in the business especially after success and 40 years. I can understand where James is coming from but he created that environment & then expected Jason to act differently on top of all the abuse in that relationship. So he fockin' left the baaaand

    • @SO-ym3zs
      @SO-ym3zs ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@johnlennon6790 I liked Load for what it was, a bluesy alternative hard rock album, but they clearly had moved from being on the cutting edge of metal, or at least thrash, and setting the bar for other bands, to something else entirely. They've had some good songs since then, but they've never truly been interesting or exciting since their 80's heyday.

  • @TheHSIHP
    @TheHSIHP ปีที่แล้ว +202

    I saw them twice with Jason. Once on the Justice tour and once on the Black album tour. Dude was on fire. So much energy.

    • @prevailwithme
      @prevailwithme ปีที่แล้ว +2

      You saw them on the Justice tour? Holy fuck, that was in their prime.

    • @TheHSIHP
      @TheHSIHP ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@prevailwithme Yeah. I was 14!

  • @benthomas8765
    @benthomas8765 ปีที่แล้ว +1287

    Making Jason unhappy and causing his departure was, by far, the biggest mistake they ever could have made. Band hasn’t been the same since.

    • @HeavyRaiden
      @HeavyRaiden ปีที่แล้ว +115

      I agree, the band live was more powerful with Jason, he made them more aggressive, he also had a great voice.

    • @jamez_estrada82
      @jamez_estrada82 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      Amen to that!

    • @JarvisVO-Foley
      @JarvisVO-Foley ปีที่แล้ว +16

      True true true true

    • @crtl5911
      @crtl5911 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      I glad his not with metallica anymore

    • @Tomekkplk
      @Tomekkplk ปีที่แล้ว +31

      I’m glad I’m not the only one who thinks this. You get flamed on here for saying these things lol.
      If they kept the same energy and listened to Jason more during the black album and didn’t chase bob rock and his radio friendly approach they’d be much more iconic I feel. But it wouldn’t give them the same type of money unfortunately

  • @TheRimeOfTheAncientMariner
    @TheRimeOfTheAncientMariner ปีที่แล้ว +37

    Jason was like the Dave Grohl of Metallica. He wasn't a virtuoso but he played with so much heart and passion that people loved him. His fandom was part of what made him awesome too. I saw them several times live with Jason and he was usually the one who looked like he was the only having a blast up there. He was great!

  • @absoluteai41
    @absoluteai41 ปีที่แล้ว +161

    "You heard the bass live." Live was the key word.

    • @mteacher9811
      @mteacher9811 ปีที่แล้ว +36

      *Camera to Lars*

    • @wildae.
      @wildae. ปีที่แล้ว +1

      code words

    • @sinenkaari5477
      @sinenkaari5477 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Lars looking guilty back there :DD

    • @luisridez9219
      @luisridez9219 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Lars had to hold back the laugh lol

    • @kudus9235
      @kudus9235 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      ​@@sinenkaari5477 So why they didn't remastered AJFA with audible bass till this day?

  • @panzerfaust66
    @panzerfaust66 ปีที่แล้ว +60

    Whatever balls Metallica had, Newsted took it with him when he left. The dude was a beast live. Made their live shows better

  • @ChasingDonnieBaseball
    @ChasingDonnieBaseball ปีที่แล้ว +150

    Jason didn't just "fit in live", he WAS live! It was his energy and fan engagement in those 1990's shows that made Metallica the greatest live performers of their day

    • @CutterAz
      @CutterAz ปีที่แล้ว

      Metallica has never been that good live. Maybe you see it as such but they were NEVER the greatest performers of any of thier eras.

    • @stan1418
      @stan1418 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@CutterAz Would disagree with the first show I saw them - '86 with Cliff. At that time - hitting on all cylinders.

    • @shippybs
      @shippybs ปีที่แล้ว

      Almost as good as AC/DC. Not quite though

  • @felicsitepu5535
    @felicsitepu5535 ปีที่แล้ว +476

    One thing for sure, Jason kept his energy as always while the rest of band at their weakest moment.

    • @Fluffymck
      @Fluffymck ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Cliff

    • @diamondjoe100
      @diamondjoe100 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      Jason was a beast live 👍

    • @brandondickie3456
      @brandondickie3456 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@Fluffymckis the goat, but we talkin bout Jason. Or they are. How’s your day

    • @4md17
      @4md17 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      ​@@Fluffymck guy is dead for 40 years... get over it. you wore not his best friend like james.

    • @Fluffymck
      @Fluffymck ปีที่แล้ว

      @@4md17 u misunderstood the comment guy

  • @James_Barris
    @James_Barris ปีที่แล้ว +205

    The heart left with Cliff
    The soul left with Jason

    • @Q24G
      @Q24G ปีที่แล้ว +56

      The brain left with this comment

    • @Strellock
      @Strellock ปีที่แล้ว +6

      😂😂😂😂 Metallica fans are the fuckin best man!

    • @jondickenson8068
      @jondickenson8068 ปีที่แล้ว

      Lol dumb

    • @rubenmedina9156
      @rubenmedina9156 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Strellock not according to James!

    • @FreakinRican6969
      @FreakinRican6969 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      But the DNA is intact 🫡

  • @jtirello3_111
    @jtirello3_111 ปีที่แล้ว +44

    Nothing but love for Jason. Everyone has their limits.

  • @Zoze13
    @Zoze13 ปีที่แล้ว +67

    James to Jason: “play something different”
    James to Kirk: “play exactly what I tell you”

    • @thundertyrant
      @thundertyrant ปีที่แล้ว +15

      If you ever get a chance to listen to Jason's audition tapes from 86 the man was bringing in some great tasty licks to the songs. Unfortunately after he was in I think they reeled him in too tight to a point of suffocation. So the whole thing of "play something else" is a rogue. They didn't give him a chance to play something else

  • @shiffyrossell1228
    @shiffyrossell1228 ปีที่แล้ว +236

    Jason was the heart and soul of Metallica for 15 years 🤘🏻

    • @karlkaliweba
      @karlkaliweba ปีที่แล้ว +7

      nah he wasnt, he was cool tho

    • @lidiaspazzard
      @lidiaspazzard ปีที่แล้ว +3

      That is a difficult claim to back up.

    • @pennywise146
      @pennywise146 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Yup!…took a load of sh1t off James & Lars…..still came out the other side. Metallica are not the same band without him….and I’m a fan.

    • @joshspunkrockgarden9914
      @joshspunkrockgarden9914 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      He really was.

    • @robertharding3403
      @robertharding3403 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That's just ridiculous

  • @ryanglobe416
    @ryanglobe416 ปีที่แล้ว +277

    I still miss Jason. He was incredible! Over the years Rob has earned my respect. He’s a great bass player.

    • @MDK2_Radio
      @MDK2_Radio ปีที่แล้ว +21

      Rob's a great bass player but I think we all know Jason should still be there. This interview doesn't really address the fact that James in particular never regarded Jason as an equal partner which is why he quit.

    • @brianshaffneraclc
      @brianshaffneraclc ปีที่แล้ว +10

      I love Rob's playing, but to me he fits Metallica in the same way John 5 fits Motley Crue. A good enough player to work in any environment, but the chemistry ain't really there.

    • @DM-rc4yu
      @DM-rc4yu ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@brianshaffneraclc 100% true. Rob will always feel like "new guy", he just doesn't fit.

    • @Bikewithlove
      @Bikewithlove ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Metallica lucked out with Rob, and they know it. It all worked out well, I think.

    • @ryanglobe416
      @ryanglobe416 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@MDK2_Radio The heart left with Cliff
      The soul left with Jason

  • @straycat1674
    @straycat1674 ปีที่แล้ว +62

    As somebody who was first introduced to Metallica with Jason Newstead as the bassist, shortly after learning about Cliff Burton, it’s still odd to me when I realize that Robert Trujillo has been the longest running basis of the band. It’s hard to wrap my head around!

    • @ktompa77
      @ktompa77 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      My exact same thoughts!!!!

    • @howardweingard43
      @howardweingard43 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      James and Lars really gave Jason a hard time… I remember when he joined Metallica, they teased him by calling him Jason “Newkid” … but, basically, without sounding like what they did to Jason was acceptable, James and Lars were dealing with the tragic loss of the previous bassist, Cliff Burton (who tragically died in a tour bus skidding on “black ice”). I think this tragic loss played a part in their tormenting poor Jason

    • @straycat1674
      @straycat1674 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@howardweingard43 yeah, they have admitted how bad they razzed him. They’ve even expressed regret in it.

    • @MKDumas1981
      @MKDumas1981 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Almost longer than all the others combined. It'll be twenty years this year, and all others combined is 21 years.

    • @MicrophonesInTheTrees
      @MicrophonesInTheTrees ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Yeah, but they've basically been a nostalgia act since the 90s. Very few people care about their 'new' stuff since then. They go to the shows to see the classics. So Robert is basically the bassist in an 'original tribute act'.

  • @crtified1001
    @crtified1001 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    Jason earned a kind of special respect from (and kinship with) the fans, to a degree that no other Metallica member has ever enjoyed.

  • @boots_33
    @boots_33 ปีที่แล้ว +97

    If they could enshrine audio clips into a Recordings Hall of Fame, Jason's live chant of "MOTHERFUCKER, DIE" during Creeping Death would be a Day One induction. That song was always first or second on the setlist, and that moment alone set the tone for Metallica's live shows for 13 years.

    • @ezeedrummer3922
      @ezeedrummer3922 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      True!

    • @Steve-qz3wi
      @Steve-qz3wi ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yessssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • @JAHCHILDREN.NTHEHAPYCIROFFRNDS
      @JAHCHILDREN.NTHEHAPYCIROFFRNDS ปีที่แล้ว +3

      THAT'S COOL THAT YOU PICKED THAT OUT TRUE VERY TRUE 🤩

    • @jamescordova1796
      @jamescordova1796 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I always wondered if they played that song first as part of some type of Ritual Sacrifice.

  • @hisvorpalsword
    @hisvorpalsword ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Jason joined as a hero, and left as a legend.

  • @ESPirits87
    @ESPirits87 ปีที่แล้ว +59

    Jason will always be my favorite, it has nothing to do with skill, all three are great at what they do, but Jason had something special, stage presence, charisma. When he got back to play with Metallica at Fillmore 2011, i felt it again, the 90s Jason was with Metallica again, because of that those songs at that show will aways be remembered.

    • @tiborosz1825
      @tiborosz1825 ปีที่แล้ว

      He compensated for mediocre bass playing. He wasa showman and artisticly a zero. His newsted album pretty much proved it.

    • @OpheliaDarkling
      @OpheliaDarkling ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@tiborosz1825 My Friend of Misery is one of Metallica's best songs so to say he's a zero is completely unfounded. Every song he got accredited towards was cool interesting. They're all mediocre, dude. James said it himself. It was not a healthy creative environment for him though all things considered.

    • @KeltkeGH
      @KeltkeGH ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@tiborosz1825 say that about the guy who composed the main riff of Blackened

    • @tiborosz1825
      @tiborosz1825 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@KeltkeGH its a real simple riff..James added the tail to make it work. Its pretty good..but not Battery for sure. That was about it as far as Jason's creativity. Oh and the diet version of Orion known as My Friend of Misery.

    • @tiborosz1825
      @tiborosz1825 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@OpheliaDarkling thet song is a lame attemt at doing Orion including the bass part. As James indicated..Jason just followed the rhyhm guitar.

  • @jeromearsenault
    @jeromearsenault ปีที่แล้ว +28

    I've seen Jason live once, in 2001. He played a legendary show with Voivod as the opening act for Ozzy Osbourne for which he also played. He was a trooper for well over 4 hours that night. What a beast.

    • @juiceman8108
      @juiceman8108 ปีที่แล้ว

      I seen him with voivod at ozzfest one year and they were hot trash

    • @jeromearsenault
      @jeromearsenault ปีที่แล้ว

      @juiceman8108 This was more than 20 years ago. They might've been underwhelming to some. I was thrilled to see Voivod play an NHL Arena accross the river from their hometown.... then Jason showed up on stage with them. I don't remember the performance quality. I meant the moment was legendary.

  • @woodward_alan
    @woodward_alan ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Jason was amazing live. Took its toll. Great musician to this day.

  • @SaintKines
    @SaintKines ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Jason will always be beloved because for one, he's a real and honest dude who never stopped being the fan that got to join his favorite band. All the other comments touch on everything else Jason meant to the band but thats what I have always liked about Jason. Jason was just one of us who was great at what he did and got in the band and never lost sight of the pov of the fan looking in.

    • @florencehenderson3707
      @florencehenderson3707 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      it seems demented that they hated this about him but James says he was an "easy target". Isn't it great to hear a grown man say that? you'd think their massive egos would want a "fan" in their band, since they don't let him have a lot of say anyway. There's just no pleasing some people.

    • @Dirtnap1986
      @Dirtnap1986 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      ​@@florencehenderson3707 According to a groupie that use to sleep with James. I think they use to call the fans vermins or some shit while everyone else was in the van looking out as Jason was the only one to sign autographs. I honestly believe they never gave a shit about there fans. They always talk about making music for them,music they wanted to hear. Not putting out music necessarily for anyone else. Even in a interview James was like I can't worry about in a sense what the fans want blah blah!!

    • @florencehenderson3707
      @florencehenderson3707 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Dirtnap1986 haha wow . . James sounds like the type that wouldn't want to be part of a club that would have him as a member ...

  • @Axter6
    @Axter6 ปีที่แล้ว +65

    Jason gave 110% every damn time and elevated the bands live shows so much. They basically hated him because he wasn’t Cliff. It’s a shame the band treated him so poorly, and the fact that no one had the balls to stand up for him. I like Rob as a bass player and he is an awesome guy, but he is really just along for the ride. Lars and James are the big bosses.

    • @justinroe9271
      @justinroe9271 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Can't fault him for that. Kirk has been along for the ride since 83 lol.

    • @rubicon-oh9km
      @rubicon-oh9km ปีที่แล้ว +5

      So true. Trujillo slid into an awesome gig and is smart enough to to keep his mouth shut, don't rock the boat, and just play bass.

  • @Labyrinth1010
    @Labyrinth1010 ปีที่แล้ว +169

    James and Lars have obviously grown immensely since those days, but imagine being so messed up you hate your bassist for being a fan of your band.
    That’s messed up. Poor Jason. He deserved better.

    • @OhanaFilms
      @OhanaFilms ปีที่แล้ว +19

      But don't forget, they were young guys trying to process the death of their friend after they were all in a terrifying accident. Jason did deserve better but I think it was a pretty complicated situation for all of them.

    • @bruno6288
      @bruno6288 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Nah man, Jason benefited from the situation big time, made millions of dollars and lived a rockstar life he couldn´t ever have imagined, putting up with the hassle from the rest of the band couldn´t be that hard.

    • @MDK2_Radio
      @MDK2_Radio ปีที่แล้ว +25

      @@bruno6288 putting up with the hassle is one thing, but never being accepted as a truly equal partner is something else. No amount of money is worth your self respect.

    • @u.s.m.c.fewproudthemarines2987
      @u.s.m.c.fewproudthemarines2987 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@bruno6288 true friend. Cliff ERA was awesome 👍👍 amazing saw Cliff 4x that why I went to seek Metallica back then it was Cliff for me. Look how GD those 3albums with him. Perfect every song off those albums are perfect in every way.

    • @sverremorka9273
      @sverremorka9273 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@bruno6288 The biggest Metallica-successes were created after Jason joined.

  • @johnsonbat77
    @johnsonbat77 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Respect to Jason. Tough gig. Glad I got to see him live during the Black album tour.

  • @MadMaXCOD-pi4dy
    @MadMaXCOD-pi4dy ปีที่แล้ว +27

    I still remember JASON singing WHIPLASH live. Phacking beast He was.

  • @shockley1002
    @shockley1002 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Jason's stage presence and vocals were just amazing.

  • @RandomVideoCircus
    @RandomVideoCircus ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I love the passive aggressive comment “wasn’t afraid to BARK into the mic” then it pans right to Robert who is kind of looking down and sad, lol.

  • @tussk.
    @tussk. ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Rob nodding in the background like a man who knows that his boss can, and will, fire him on a whim.

  • @GregArns
    @GregArns ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Poor Jason. Fucking LOVED that era...he was amazing. Rob is great....taking nothing away from his contributions, but Jason was put into a no win situation and totally owned it. He was doing what he needed to make the sound LOUD...saw them so many times in the Jason era...Newsted fucking owned his time in Metallica.

  • @joshuaschmidinger3993
    @joshuaschmidinger3993 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Jason is incredible in so many ways but 3 I can list off the top of my head stand out...putting up with the emotional baggage of the band after replacing a friend and band member that just died tragically, being super cool, funny and down to earth as a Rocker dude and playing his heart out every night(even though he would be buried in the mix until the black album)they man was a team player on a team that wouldn't let him play 😎🤘❤️🔥👏

  • @g-manjams
    @g-manjams ปีที่แล้ว +2

    If nothing else, Jason brought energy to the live shows that revved up the rest of the band. When he did the vocals in Creeping death, James fucking brought it too. Them going back and forth on vocals was something to behold.

  • @goalie2998
    @goalie2998 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    That's 1 side of the story. Jason has said he felt isolated and not involved in the music making as James and Lars would essentially tell him what they wanted.

    • @sbrave
      @sbrave ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Probably tell Kirk the same. It's the Lars & James show 1,000 %

    • @OpheliaDarkling
      @OpheliaDarkling ปีที่แล้ว +14

      And there is the statement. He was a caged bird yet James says here that he expected him to play differently when he wasn't really allowed to nor was he given a friendly environment to do so. Hetfield and Ulrich ruled with an iron fist in songwriting. Caged birds can't really spread their wings. What he was allowed to contribute were some of their most interesting songs. My Friend of Misery? I mean come on, one of their best songs. Blackened and Where the Wild Things Are were all they credited him on and both were great songs. It's a shame James was too blinded by his own problems to let the man breathe in the studio. They created that fucking environment then complain about the product? Doesn't fly with me.

    • @KeltkeGH
      @KeltkeGH ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@OpheliaDarkling That's why I believe James is full of bs and hypocrisy when he say things like that.

    • @goalie2998
      @goalie2998 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@KeltkeGH like my comment. Everyone has their own view of the same events.
      I think most people outside the situation can see from the limited access to behind the scenes stuff how things went. And I think we can agree that Jason had more to offer , but was limited in doing so.
      Which is a shame.

    • @beauchambers3912
      @beauchambers3912 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Right? James basically put him down for doing what they wanted!

  • @carlbrown939
    @carlbrown939 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Saw them with Cliff back in the day. That was incredible. And then with Jason afterwards. I remember those shows. Jason was a beast live. Massive stage presence. It made the others really step up. And that bass. He was the perfect man to step in the hole that was left in Cliffs absence. It would have been nice if James hadn't shit on him so hard. Im glad Jason went his own way. He is a class act.

  • @faisalbaig5306
    @faisalbaig5306 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Jason was a force of nature; he had Metal in his blood! I love Metallica but highly disrespect how they didnt have the courage to face a sad reality, move on and appreciate what an awesome replacement they had found. Respect to Jason!

  • @accepthisname
    @accepthisname ปีที่แล้ว +2

    "Do whatever you wanna do, bro. We'll edit it out later"

  • @olaclaesson8074
    @olaclaesson8074 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Nice to hear James talk about Jason with love and respect after all these years.

    • @Fakename70
      @Fakename70 ปีที่แล้ว

      It’s an old clip, but, yeah. Still difficult to listen to Hetfield’s backhanded compliments.

    • @olaclaesson8074
      @olaclaesson8074 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Fakename70 How old? The last ten years are current to me. Maybe because I'm old. 👍

    • @Fakename70
      @Fakename70 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@olaclaesson8074
      Not sure how many, but, I know I saw it years ago.

    • @4md17
      @4md17 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@olaclaesson8074its from 2018, And justice for all anniversary. its on metallica channel

  • @saturnoenllamas
    @saturnoenllamas ปีที่แล้ว +2

    "...Im stepping into someone shoes who cant never be filled" *cam goes to Robert* Robert thinking "well fk me"

  • @Faithnomore227
    @Faithnomore227 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Jason is the thing I remember the most about the two shows I heard back in 92/93. A fucking powerhouse. Still my favourite member all these years later. They fucked up not treating him with the respect he deserved. I love Jason. A fantastic musician and more importantly, a class human being. x

  • @itsalwayssomething7490
    @itsalwayssomething7490 ปีที่แล้ว +85

    That's nice, but he still basically glosses over Jason's time in the band. They praise Cliff and talk about him fondly, of course. Maybe they felt they couldn't really grieve over Cliff because Jason was in the band and replaced him. And Rob is twice removed, so it's easier to be nostalgic.
    Also, James is still closed off even though it seems he's talking openly here. Its James that pushed Jason out and he knows it, but doesn't really take responsiblity for it. Lars does. Despite how much people dislike Lars, he was always the bridge between Metallica and past members. Its Lars that kept in touch with Mustaine over the years that allowed the anniversary concert and Big 4 to take place with him. James is too broken and closed off to be vulnerable enough to reflect on his role in all this. Lars at least takes responsibility for it, and I respect that.
    I understand that the 3 of them were also hurt by Jason leaving. But, it seemed more so that it affected the band and less about losing someone they loved.

    • @Kruegernator123
      @Kruegernator123 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I think the band doesn’t talk about Jason much because it’s still a controversial topic. I do think they ironed out most of the kinks in their relationship with Jason two decades ago though.

    • @dingabell5054
      @dingabell5054 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Very well said.

    • @beauchambers3912
      @beauchambers3912 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Right, James basically said "he would always copy me" but I doubt they'd really let Jason have much freedom at all if he did want to get creative. Was it 2, 3 writing credits in total that he got during his time in the band? :/

    • @wout808
      @wout808 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      That's one of the things James also struggled with and adressed during his times away from the band. A lot of that is changed now. There's nothing but love and respect towards Jason nowadays in Metallica. But still, we weren't there. So the opinion of the fans is based on what you hear in interviews and the media and that's not always exactly in the right context or the whole truth. Cliff was different. He was a special person, talent and the way he was taken was heartbreaking. Not only as a band but as friends, so you can never compare Jason to Cliff. It's a whole different story.

    • @itsalwayssomething7490
      @itsalwayssomething7490 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@wout808 I wasn't comparing Cliff to Jason in any way other than the way the band talks about them. They revere Cliff and for good reason, I get that. With Jason, they don't talk about him as if they lost a brother. They talk about him like him leaving put a wrench in the Metallica cog and inconvenienced them. That's all I was saying.
      It's not hearsay on why Jason left, he said it straight out. James never acknowledges that, he doesn't ever say "I could have handled the Jason thing differently and let him know how much I valued him." He is not emotionally capable of doing that. Lars acknowledges how the guys should have handled things differently.
      So, the comparisons between Cliff and Jason are not about skill, or what they brought to the band, but more so how they talk about both after they are gone.

  • @cyrillesu
    @cyrillesu ปีที่แล้ว +2

    It's so funny how the camera panned to Lars as soon as James said that you can hear the bass live.

  • @jrobbin24
    @jrobbin24 ปีที่แล้ว +96

    James to Jason : do what you wanna do
    Jason: helps them create their greatest album to date
    Lars: yeah, we’re gonna have to go ahead and turn that down

    • @HittokiriBattousai17
      @HittokiriBattousai17 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Justice is my favorite Metallica album but, musically, is not as good as Ride the Lightning.

    • @lordofsummer6915
      @lordofsummer6915 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @@HittokiriBattousai17 Justice is actually better musically than RTL, it's a lot more complex and intricate, if that's what you mean by "musically"

    • @indianmilitary
      @indianmilitary ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@lordofsummer6915 Complex does not mean good. RTL had lot of soul (may be cliff effect) which was missing in Justice.

    • @shacktime
      @shacktime ปีที่แล้ว +3

      What? RTL and RTL2 (AKA: MOP) was peak Metallica. Loved Newsted but Justice and the Black Album just didn’t have the same fire. And it’s been downhill ever since the Black Album.
      The way they treated Newsted was f-ing LAME. I lost respect for Lars and James because of that shit.

    • @shacktime
      @shacktime ปีที่แล้ว

      @@lordofsummer6915I’m calling BS on that.

  • @JBrettPrince
    @JBrettPrince ปีที่แล้ว +1

    "do what you want to do on the bass!!!" (we're gonna turn it down so low, no one will even know anyway)

  • @thanosgalanis3053
    @thanosgalanis3053 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Jason was awesome!true metalhead,melodic as you can hear in my friend of misery,so emotional backing vocals on nothing else matters in s&m,so much energy like he was born for metallica...yeah they were never the same without Jason

  • @bloosart
    @bloosart ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Cliff and Jason were the reasons why I started playing bass

  • @Phixssius
    @Phixssius ปีที่แล้ว +31

    Jason thinks he was lucky to have Metallica. But it was Metallica that were lucky enough to have Jason. "Nothing Else Matters", Jason was legendary.

  • @efwewfwef1549
    @efwewfwef1549 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    jason was the perfect fit for peak metallica!!!!

  • @sidetrak85
    @sidetrak85 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    Sure James . You told him to have his own style and be himself. You didn't even allow the bass to be audible on justice.

  • @leviathon18
    @leviathon18 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Since he left jason is what every fan misses in their live show as he brought the headbanging, headbanging energy and perfect backing vocals to their show

  • @Eduardo3assi
    @Eduardo3assi ปีที่แล้ว +6

    James: "Do whatever you want to do"
    Black Album Recording: Jason tries some great different lines.
    James: "I dont like it"

  • @daveassanowicz186
    @daveassanowicz186 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Jason WAS your Live Show, Pappa Het

  • @prw8004
    @prw8004 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The Jason Newsted era was absolutely my favourite time following Metallica. Jason was my favourite of the four members. I saw Metallica live twice during the Jason era and I would just focus on him…his energy, enthusiasm and stage presence was just incredible. He was just a nice genuine guy but so metal when on stage. The facial expressions, the hair, the tight black jeans and black t-shirt. He was just awesome!!! 😎🤘🏽

  • @jonwilliams5869
    @jonwilliams5869 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    He was a “Punter” and he hung in and is relevant! Damn great bassist!

  • @einarabelc5
    @einarabelc5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    This is a sad story, and it's a typical case of when you can see the defects in others but not on yourself.

  • @korsunhoox
    @korsunhoox ปีที่แล้ว +1

    „Jason stepping in the shoes of someone that can naver be filled” 0:16 Trujillo nods #me2

  • @sirperry69
    @sirperry69 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    If they didn’t completely bury his bass tracks on Justice , they wouldn’t be able to say he “just played along with Het’s parts . He did some wild shit on that record . Somewhere on TH-cam there’s a remixed version.

  • @dark_SDKR
    @dark_SDKR ปีที่แล้ว +1

    JN era metallica was revolutionary... period!
    "a dream come true. im stepping into someone's shoes that can never be filled" - 0:17 says the look on Robert's face says he has been thinking the same since 2003.

    • @4md17
      @4md17 ปีที่แล้ว

      i would be so happy if rob leave metallica! he is a great player, nice person and have earnd his milions. just like Jason. james would be devastated and ask himself where did he go wrong again.

  • @revelore4090
    @revelore4090 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    they had the perfect lineup with Newsted for me, and they sounded the best live, with him

  • @czolgistta
    @czolgistta ปีที่แล้ว +2

    James: "Do whatever you wanna do!"
    Jason: "I'd like to compose more music"
    James: "DON'T DO THAT"
    Jason: "Ok, I'd like to have a small side band where I could compo..."
    James: "WHADIDYOUJUSSAY!!!!??????"

  • @ThinkReal
    @ThinkReal ปีที่แล้ว +18

    This was posted on youtube a few years ago.

  • @tristramcoffin926
    @tristramcoffin926 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My Friend of Misery is one of my favorite Metallica songs.

  • @albertdavila6808
    @albertdavila6808 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    Play a show with him and finish this in good terms. We the fan would appreciate it.

    • @InnoASatana
      @InnoASatana ปีที่แล้ว +10

      They have played with him quite a few times since they broke it off. Mostly larger public events, but for their anniversaries he shows up.

    • @ESPirits87
      @ESPirits87 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      He has had surgery and can't play those songs anymore, he said it himself, he plays country now.

    • @Fluffymck
      @Fluffymck ปีที่แล้ว

      Would they ever

    • @albertdavila6808
      @albertdavila6808 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@InnoASatana I know but only as a second bassit

    • @tstill1988
      @tstill1988 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      ​@@Fluffymck they already did, many times.

  • @dilo777
    @dilo777 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I wish they would go on record and say…. We Were wrong in how we treated him. They say all this stuff and explain their behavior……but they’ve never (to my knowledge) said they were wrong, say him leaving was our fault not his.

  • @benthomas8765
    @benthomas8765 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    They need to do one more show with Jason on bass and rob on the sidelines for the whole set.

  • @TheBoondoggler
    @TheBoondoggler ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Het, Lars and Kirk sound like an absolute fucking nightmare to have ever had to have dealt with interpersonally.

  • @julianhosking
    @julianhosking ปีที่แล้ว +9

    My first Metallica purchase was back in 1987 with the $5.98 EP! I was 14 years old and learning bass, when I heard Jason's intro on Crash course It blew my mind!! The dude is amazing!

    • @Fakename70
      @Fakename70 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That was the first release that got my attention, but, because of the drums. They sound amazing! It’s a fun EP and the band is really rockin’!

    • @timgillenwater1503
      @timgillenwater1503 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      My first cassette and inroduction to Metallica also. About the same age. I listen to it for the memories and feelings.

  • @chadwilliamson4293
    @chadwilliamson4293 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I saw an evening with Metallica back in the mid-90s 3 hours worth. Jason Newstead played his version of the national anthem. 25 minutes of beast!!! He straight carried the show in Dayton at the Nutter Center. Props to all Metallica that night, but especially Newstead... 🎸

  • @tonybp
    @tonybp ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Rob has been with Metallica more than Cliff and Jason were, but still I feel like Rob is just a freelance guy they hired to fill the spot, it doesn't feel like Rob has the same presence in the band as Cliff and Jason had. It even seems like Rob knows that his place is a few steps back and heck, maybe that's the reason the other 3 guys have kept him in the band for so long now. Cliff and Jason were monsters on stage and they definitely added to the Metallica aura, but Rob came in when the band was already a monster so there's that too.

  • @Gratefulman1965
    @Gratefulman1965 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    And that folks is as close to an apology that Jason will ever receive from the boys in the band.

  • @triba4990
    @triba4990 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Turned his guitar around so he couldn't see what he was playing, but also took his Blackened riff and turned his bass off for the album. Good one James!

  • @sc12100
    @sc12100 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The problem with James is that he never accepted the fact that Jason joined the band and that’s the way they should have taken it.
    Instead, they treated him like a replacement.

  • @Kapricorn.Musick
    @Kapricorn.Musick ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Odd that James says he expected Jason not to follow the guitar parts while I've seen in many other places where James was very controlling about what Jason was expected to play, going so far as to basically write Jason's parts and say "play it like this." Like, how do you creatively strangle a fellow band member and then say, "you're not being creative enough." Meanwhile, Jason is jamming outside of Metallica with the guys in Sepultura and Devin Townsend. I respect James a helluva lot, but this is definitely a forked tongue moment.

    • @dingabell5054
      @dingabell5054 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes, I agree with you completely. James was on very shaky ground when explaining this.

  • @greedygringoprospecting6941
    @greedygringoprospecting6941 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    holy holy shit jason could write. best one of all.

  • @basti_marr
    @basti_marr ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Kind of ironic how they hated him because they saw him just as a replacement, he gave so much to earn his place that after his departure Metallica lost part of what Metallica was. Nowadays it's just James and Lars plus two session musicians. In a way they killed what a band it is supposed to be.

  • @ItsMeScareCro
    @ItsMeScareCro ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You heard it live because Lars wasn't behind the soundboard mixing.

  • @mikem4c
    @mikem4c ปีที่แล้ว +5

    There was something truly unique and special with Jason being in the band. That chemistry, he was a perfect fit for where they were headed sonically. They were definitely more powerful live with him, like holy sh*t! He was always on his A game! As far as his playing, he came from Flotsam & Jetsam where he wrote that first album on bass first and then they’d come in and record guitars over it, from my understanding. So it makes sense he originally had a more guitar driven bass sound, because he played it like rhythm, fast and aggressive. From what it sounds like, he had a lot of cool ideas, more intricate parts to contribute to Metallica, but never had his voice heard, unfortunately. Black album onward his bass lines were more groove and a perfect fit to do their songs justice. Just seems like they had a lot of resistance to him contributing ideas, so what’s he supposed to do other than follow in some parts? Just my thoughts, I dunno..I wasn’t there. Nothing but love for any era of Metallica and what they have given us over the years. Just happy to have existed in this universe at the same time with mighty Met!

    • @jefferycarter2407
      @jefferycarter2407 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      To me, Jason approached his bass playing the same way Lemmy did. Lemmy played bass lines as if he was playing rhythm guitar

  • @Jimboishere11
    @Jimboishere11 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I hope it haunts James every single day. Metallica went downhill so fast after Jason left. He kept them alive.

  • @Hoojo
    @Hoojo ปีที่แล้ว +3

    So what James is saying is that they knew they did him super dirty, treated him like their own personal whipping boy, tried to break him, resented him and are still not sorry at all. My previous thoughts of the band members being dickheads still remains. Jason is too good for these dicks. Robert is exempt from this. Robert is rad.

  • @dereknovaes4217
    @dereknovaes4217 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Jason represented us on the other side! Love Jason!!

  • @bananaface1636
    @bananaface1636 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Jason gave it 110% live, and then some. Watch any of the old footage. Best bass player they ever had. A beast on the vocals too. 👹

  • @forestsnow6508
    @forestsnow6508 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Jason still is a Force. Hes not dead

  • @j_freed
    @j_freed ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Jason could’ve definitely taken more chances creatively, because the way Cliff stood out was exceptional.

    • @denarte6986
      @denarte6986 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      They didn’t give him any chances. #JusticeForJason

    • @KeltkeGH
      @KeltkeGH ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I always thought that My Friend of Misery could've been Jason's Orion, but Bob Rock and the rest of the band were against it.

  • @vestaxwax
    @vestaxwax ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I saw the ...And Justice tour. Jason's bass solo was the most memorable thing.

  • @65blablabla
    @65blablabla ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Jason was amazing .

  • @np466
    @np466 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Interesting because I vividly remember Jason saying he wasn’t allowed to play what he wanted…

  • @purplepeavey7874
    @purplepeavey7874 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    An easy target is something a true bully would say. Jason rules.

  • @joeydeclue1294
    @joeydeclue1294 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    cliff and jason was the heart of that band.

  • @gerhardjasongeick4229
    @gerhardjasongeick4229 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    It's worth noting that Jason's solo album HEAVY METAL MUSIC is better than anything Metallica has put out in the years since his departure. So he obviously brought something pretty vital to the table.

  • @poisonous-shadows
    @poisonous-shadows ปีที่แล้ว +1

    All they had to do was let him put his solo album out and tour while they took a break but lars and james just couldnt let othet people be happy and they paid the price for it cause jason was metallica

  • @rubenmedina9156
    @rubenmedina9156 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    "He was such a fan"... "we wanted to beat the fan out of him" imagine being a fan of the band and there comes ol´ James years later being supported by and making millions $ by fans, and being deminished for being one, the guy is an ass hole. More respect to Jason, he represented the people that followed metallica in the highest regards, a complete musician, not just live but, when making records too, to me Jason did the propper thing leaving the band

    • @OpheliaDarkling
      @OpheliaDarkling ปีที่แล้ว +6

      100%. There was no other way, sadly. Who the hell is gonna wait another 15 years for James to calm tf down and level off after all that he'd already gone through? The thing that bothers me the most is how much Jason would have progressed as a musician if he weren't in that confined/rather hostile environment and how much it would have perhaps helped the band become more artistic/creative in their songwriting endeavors. The world will never know.

  • @ryanmcallister2321
    @ryanmcallister2321 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    "You heard the bass live"
    *Lars smirking in the background knowing he ain't gonna let that shit happen on the recordings*

  • @dinein1970
    @dinein1970 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Because you never did let him.
    You can RIGHT this by remastering "... And Justice For All" and turn up the BASS
    And SHOUT OUT HIS SOLO ALBUM!!!
    NEWSTED HEAVY METAL MUSIC!!!

  • @godevils1982
    @godevils1982 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Robs sitting there like but can he crab walk tho

  • @a.j.garrett9639
    @a.j.garrett9639 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Definitely one of the saddest partings in all of music history.
    Jason left with and retains full respect from the fans.
    They've never been the same since....
    Rob is awesome 👍
    But something is missing.
    Maybe if we heard from Rob more?
    I feel like he doesn't get the face time in the media.

  • @patosoda
    @patosoda ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I really like Robert....But Jason saved the band after cliff ...what a compliment !

  • @smatych86
    @smatych86 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    As much as James Hetfield has been one of my heroes for so many years, I really wish he would be more humble when talking about Jason. They were complete assholes and blaming it entirely on Cliff's death is wrong and cowardly IMO. Jason projected more energy alone than the rest of the band combined. I have all the respect in the world for Jason, what a professional.

    • @WoockerSocket2
      @WoockerSocket2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Isn't he being humble now? Lmao

    • @dieseldust27
      @dieseldust27 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      He was just asked how they felt towards Jason but they kinda mellow down now

    • @esl4058
      @esl4058 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      James wasn’t blaming anything on cliff’s death. He’s explaining point blank that they didn’t process cliff’s death and they took it out on Jason when it was never Jason’s fault to begin with. What else is he supposed to say? He deconstructed what happened openly and honestly.

    • @TransNFLGirl
      @TransNFLGirl ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Jason dissed cliff tho.
      he fucking said "Cliff did not really have a defined sound. My picking brought a new flavor!"
      Wtf man...

    • @mrhyde2250
      @mrhyde2250 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@TransNFLGirl he was talking about Cliffs sound in the context of the mix. The isolated tracks aren’t the great. Jason’s picking is quite impactful when he’s actually brought up in the mix.

  • @billytrance6893
    @billytrance6893 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    IMPRESSIONS: (1) Due to the severe grief, sadness, and loss issues Kirk, James, and Lars were going through combined with Jason's personality and the fact he was a "fan" as James put it gave Jason the staying power to last as long as he did. If he was of a different personality, then the reality may have been that Metallica may have gone through several bassists for many years until one came along with "staying power". This would have had a major impact on the band and their ability to tour consistently and stay as popular as they did, (2), Jason's stage presence and antics (energy, singing, motivation, etc) was exactly what Metallica needed given the amount of touring they did. In my opinion, given the circumstances back then, Jason was the "perfect" fit when you take the WHOLE picture into consideration.