In this video, I discuss why I don't give face ratings. Wikimedia Commons Images Used: Stockton, CA Police Department, Public domain, via Wikimedia Commons
I think they can be an accurate rating of your objective looks if given by a plastic surgeon or experienced person but yes the real rating is how women treat you. That's what ultimately matters.
Well, I don't get treated like shit and women often go out of their way to be around me and when I get all dressed up and do my hair to go out somewhere I get looks from women, so I'd say I'm doing something well.
@@JavarisJamar-kx9pe sub5 get nasty stares...and most women would reject the man before he even thinks about approaching. Most sub5s say that they dont even have to show any romantic interest before a women shows her disinterest.
I agree with this for the most part. There's definitely some nuance. Women generally treated me poorly when I was sub 5 but some were cordial. You're not totally invisble as an average looking guy because some women will still like your phenotype/look. Most women do treat you well as a Chad but there will be women that don't particularly like your phenotype.
I don’t do face ratings on other men (yes, I’m straight too), at the end of the day it’s vvomen who are the ultimate and final judges of male attractiveness. Men are the worst judges of the looks of other men.
Neither men nor women rate good. Women just will rate you on her preference, if she is into k pop and you have beard you are -10 for her, and if she is into masculine men's like Brad Pitt,Hernan dragon and you have pretty boy looks like ,jungkook. Then you are -10 for her. So you better not take their rating as a evidence for your attractiveness. The objective rating is your best option. By comparing 100's of beautiful people, there's some same measurements which can indicate how attractive one are. Just like any other field. You better learn that yourself . I suggest watching creating attractiveness channel
Face ratings are pointless. Make a tinder or Bumble or whatever, and you'll see what your rating is too women. A number is a pointless metric most people don't need a face rating they need an analysis. The only thing that matters is understanding your strengths and weaknesses and what you can improve on.
I'll be making a video in the near future on how to know what your dating league is. I think dating apps are part of how you determine how attractive you are.
@@ascended266 Could you mention the influence of paying for premium as well I never paid for premium and from that point of view, it's hard to say how much influence premium has on lack of results
Tbh the golden age of face ratings was when WW wasn’t trying to sell people everything and it was the only paid for service he offered. Bro was absolutely brutal and didn’t hold back. I was new to the black pill and paid for one from him in like 2021 and he gave me a 5 with a potential of 7 due to things like acne and bad hair style. It put me on to a lot of shit I needed to improve on, and was really thorough. He broke it down really well into different sections and gave step by step plans based on what you looked like, it was worth the 5 dollars or whatever the hell I paid for it tbh. I would trust his ratings less now because even though I enjoy some of his content still his channel seems to operate more like a business now.
I think everyone can watch themselves in the mirror and spot all the flaws easily. And how women and people treat you in your life can give you everything you have to know to rate yourself. So face ratings are not required at all. About your channel, it is really great to have someone who literally lived 3 different lives, as a normie, sub5 and chadlite. You are the ultimate proof that blackpill is real, you are witnessing it with your life. And you can relate to everyone.
I think men are way logical when it comes to rating faces. Objectively they can be correct. But women work by emotions. It’s all about the “vibe” even tho it’s just attractiveness. As a guy who has multiple sisters, there are dudes who blackpillers would call avg or below avg that women rate as chads. It’s actually crazy how wrong I could be 💀
Good video, i appreciate the unexpected shoutout. I’ve noticed a lot of blatantly uneducated people selling face ratings and surgical advice in this community so major props to you for not grifting and being honest about your niche. Also, i generally agree with a lot of comments saying you can find out how attractive you are through dating apps or intuition. I think the main benefit of a good facial analysis is that you can be placed on a standardized chart and you can learn about your objective flaws to better take action to fix them.
@@LeadLeftLeon I agree. I think that more so applies to the guys who are notably good looking, like the top 2% and above. Im unsure how many comments a top 20% guy would get, even though he is still moderatly attractive.
Rating face is not some rocket science. You can just learn the ratios by watching their videos. Nose angles, gonial angle, eye length, breath etc. Most people don't really want the rating, they just want you to aggre with them. It's just good to evaluate one's own attractiveness, so you can use it effectively in your life, without being overconfident or under confident. And how women treats you doesn't really explain your attractiveness, most people are normal and they try to be humble and not hurt your feelings, by saying anything about your looks. So personally i would really not believe these womens
Everyone instinctively knows their range anyways. Game is much smoother for a 7 than a 5. Creepy vanished once I was no longer scrawny and started being direct
Idk Nero Angelo rated me a 5.5 (Im 5'10 and 26% bf) and I find it aligns pretty well with the results I get from dating apps and cold approach. I get about 5 matches a week from tinder alone (but keep in mind I have pretty decent photos that are slightly catfishy due to angle or slight filter from faceapp lmfao). Not to mention pretty much any girl thats 5+ will end up ghosting on dating apps in my exp, only 3s and 4s end up converting. And for cold approaches I've done hundreds and have only been called a creep once (and that was on Halloween and the girls were drunk). But besides that women never really give me harsh rejections.
@@LeadLeftLeon I hope so. Nero said I had possible Chadlite potential. Ive contemplated on getting a nose job since my nose is slightly oversized which would prob make me an 8 but idk if a 10k rhinoplasty is worth it. It would be a 0.3-0.5 point difference. I think going from 7.5 to 8 as a guy thats 5'10 wont make a huge difference in the quality of my dating life tbh
@@dorikin333 i wouldn't reccomend a nose job unless ur nose is just abnormally ugly. Most women, i can say w the utmost confidence, do not care ab ur nose as long as its not crazy mishapen or anything along those lines. like cartoon witch type shit
im around a low 5 to mid 5, 5 - 5.5 according to the average of popular ratings, But my phenotype is African(Nigerian). I do terribly on tinder it's around 0 - 2 likes a week. On BLK a black dating app its 1 or so a day; goes to show.
I definitely may do this at some point in the future using photos of me when I was fat and balding and then using my photos now. It's night and day to say the least lol
I know someone who did something similar. The fake profile as a college jock had girls flirting to bad game. The more valuable you are, the bigger the margin of error you get
Yeah rating someone who is below average can be difficult cause you don't want to make him upset or depressed. Sometimes when I see someone completely below average I don't want to rate him honestly, because after that he can feel desperate, and it will be on my conscience
I agree with you. Taking advice from a guy that's much better looking than you isn't ideal. The advice they give you may work for them but may not work as well for someone who is 2 points lower.
I would say that you can grade yourself based on the types of women who approach you. If you put effort into yourself and still struggle then you know you are below average and that it’s a futile effort.
I see her as a 7. I tend to go for blondes and I also like tall women. She's definitely hit or miss for people. I have a buddy that think she's a 10 lol
@@ascended266 she is a 7 in some pictures to be fair. But also I think beauty is subjective at least when it comes to men judging women. My friends seem to disagree over Zendaya as well cuz I would rate Zendaya a 7 objectively and others would call her a 3/4 (coping) or a 9/10 lol
The real rating is how women treat you. Face ratings are cope.
I think they can be an accurate rating of your objective looks if given by a plastic surgeon or experienced person but yes the real rating is how women treat you. That's what ultimately matters.
Aspergers? When I was thinner girls got engaged way faster. They talk to you now but they never ask your name.Good chat bye.
@@ascended266 but why dont all these channels bring that up?
Well, I don't get treated like shit and women often go out of their way to be around me and when I get all dressed up and do my hair to go out somewhere I get looks from women, so I'd say I'm doing something well.
@@diegobrando6115 you've proven his point
if women treat you poorly...your sub5
If women treat you like your invisible...your Normie.
If women treat you well...your a chad
In what circumstance would a woman go out of her way to treat you poorly if you never approached?
@@JavarisJamar-kx9pe sub5 get nasty stares...and most women would reject the man before he even thinks about approaching. Most sub5s say that they dont even have to show any romantic interest before a women shows her disinterest.
I agree with this for the most part. There's definitely some nuance. Women generally treated me poorly when I was sub 5 but some were cordial. You're not totally invisble as an average looking guy because some women will still like your phenotype/look. Most women do treat you well as a Chad but there will be women that don't particularly like your phenotype.
@@ascended266 correct....my original comment was in general terms.
@@user-gl5cj6tg5ibro i am not a chad i am a htn kurry and i still get good treatment for women. Chad is very rare
The truth is, you can't get an accurate rating of someone's face from a photo, a camera lens and human eye are vastly different.
Hands down. I could never call a guy ugly. Call me virtue signaling but what‘s the point of making someone feel sad
Getting your face rated by a guy as a guy is absolutely worthless
How good you look is judged only by women
I don’t do face ratings on other men (yes, I’m straight too), at the end of the day it’s vvomen who are the ultimate and final judges of male attractiveness.
Men are the worst judges of the looks of other men.
Agreed Yoda! I'm even guilty of rating other men poorly sometimes.
Neither men nor women rate good. Women just will rate you on her preference, if she is into k pop and you have beard you are -10 for her, and if she is into masculine men's like Brad Pitt,Hernan dragon and you have pretty boy looks like ,jungkook. Then you are -10 for her. So you better not take their rating as a evidence for your attractiveness.
The objective rating is your best option. By comparing 100's of beautiful people, there's some same measurements which can indicate how attractive one are. Just like any other field.
You better learn that yourself .
I suggest watching creating attractiveness channel
Face ratings are pointless. Make a tinder or Bumble or whatever, and you'll see what your rating is too women. A number is a pointless metric most people don't need a face rating they need an analysis. The only thing that matters is understanding your strengths and weaknesses and what you can improve on.
I couldn't agree more. A profile on any dating app is the most accurate diagnose instrument to determine your attractiveness on a macro scale.
i know i would probably attempt suicide if i ever did tinder
I'll be making a video in the near future on how to know what your dating league is. I think dating apps are part of how you determine how attractive you are.
@@crawler561 Unless you live in a small place with many languages
@@ascended266 Could you mention the influence of paying for premium as well
I never paid for premium and from that point of view, it's hard to say how much influence premium has on lack of results
I am solid sub5, women never talk to me,
when I tried to approach they always give that look, some run away.
I can relate as a former sub 5.
How tall are you? If you're over 6ft, you can attract women even if you have a sub5 face.
@@mickeyg6994 5.9
That's very rare my guy
@@Reinousmessandriahdristreniyos what is rare?
Tbh the golden age of face ratings was when WW wasn’t trying to sell people everything and it was the only paid for service he offered. Bro was absolutely brutal and didn’t hold back. I was new to the black pill and paid for one from him in like 2021 and he gave me a 5 with a potential of 7 due to things like acne and bad hair style. It put me on to a lot of shit I needed to improve on, and was really thorough. He broke it down really well into different sections and gave step by step plans based on what you looked like, it was worth the 5 dollars or whatever the hell I paid for it tbh. I would trust his ratings less now because even though I enjoy some of his content still his channel seems to operate more like a business now.
Thats very kind of you so you wont hurt your subs feelings
Yeah pretty much lol
What will make you look good to her: if the last guy she was with, first guy she was with, or her dad looks like you
Yeah, that's true. A lot of girls have a specific type and a lot of the time it's guys that resemble their dad.
I think everyone can watch themselves in the mirror and spot all the flaws easily. And how women and people treat you in your life can give you everything you have to know to rate yourself. So face ratings are not required at all.
About your channel, it is really great to have someone who literally lived 3 different lives, as a normie, sub5 and chadlite. You are the ultimate proof that blackpill is real, you are witnessing it with your life. And you can relate to everyone.
Thanks man! Yeah, I'm definitely living proof as I've lived 3 different lives so I'm able to relate to all three groups.
qoves studio is also another good channel which explains face ratings/proportions and whatnot.
Ah yeah, that's a good channel.
Qoves is qualified. He’s in the modeling industry and spends buncha time around great faces
@@LeadLeftLeonHe said zendaya is attractive 😂😂😂
@@SCP3143.and how r they wrong?
@@mayursable4921 She is 3-4
"I'd rather have someone else drive someone to sui cide not me"
If you can't change anything, no point getting a rating
Just do the best with what you have
I think men are way logical when it comes to rating faces. Objectively they can be correct. But women work by emotions. It’s all about the “vibe” even tho it’s just attractiveness. As a guy who has multiple sisters, there are dudes who blackpillers would call avg or below avg that women rate as chads. It’s actually crazy how wrong I could be 💀
Good video, i appreciate the unexpected shoutout.
I’ve noticed a lot of blatantly uneducated people selling face ratings and surgical advice in this community so major props to you for not grifting and being honest about your niche.
Also, i generally agree with a lot of comments saying you can find out how attractive you are through dating apps or intuition.
I think the main benefit of a good facial analysis is that you can be placed on a standardized chart and you can learn about your objective flaws to better take action to fix them.
Yep a truly handsome will know it. Girls will tell him outright and treat him differently
@@LeadLeftLeon I agree. I think that more so applies to the guys who are notably good looking, like the top 2% and above.
Im unsure how many comments a top 20% guy would get, even though he is still moderatly attractive.
Rating face is not some rocket science. You can just learn the ratios by watching their videos.
Nose angles, gonial angle, eye length, breath etc. Most people don't really want the rating, they just want you to aggre with them.
It's just good to evaluate one's own attractiveness, so you can use it effectively in your life, without being overconfident or under confident.
And how women treats you doesn't really explain your attractiveness, most people are normal and they try to be humble and not hurt your feelings, by saying anything about your looks. So personally i would really not believe these womens
Everyone instinctively knows their range anyways. Game is much smoother for a 7 than a 5. Creepy vanished once I was no longer scrawny and started being direct
I also love trading bud. Keep it up
Thanks, will do!
I don’t see Madison beer as a 9. Maybe a 7.
Idk Nero Angelo rated me a 5.5 (Im 5'10 and 26% bf) and I find it aligns pretty well with the results I get from dating apps and cold approach. I get about 5 matches a week from tinder alone (but keep in mind I have pretty decent photos that are slightly catfishy due to angle or slight filter from faceapp lmfao). Not to mention pretty much any girl thats 5+ will end up ghosting on dating apps in my exp, only 3s and 4s end up converting. And for cold approaches I've done hundreds and have only been called a creep once (and that was on Halloween and the girls were drunk). But besides that women never really give me harsh rejections.
Yeah, I like his videos and I believe he is probably very accurate in his ratings.
So you’re slightly above average looking with a quarter of your body being jelly rolls. You’d go up two points easy with 8 to 14 bf
@@LeadLeftLeon I hope so. Nero said I had possible Chadlite potential. Ive contemplated on getting a nose job since my nose is slightly oversized which would prob make me an 8 but idk if a 10k rhinoplasty is worth it. It would be a 0.3-0.5 point difference. I think going from 7.5 to 8 as a guy thats 5'10 wont make a huge difference in the quality of my dating life tbh
you have harsh rejections cause you aren't short and so woman have more fear.
@@dorikin333 i wouldn't reccomend a nose job unless ur nose is just abnormally ugly. Most women, i can say w the utmost confidence, do not care ab ur nose as long as its not crazy mishapen or anything along those lines. like cartoon witch type shit
im around a low 5 to mid 5, 5 - 5.5 according to the average of popular ratings, But my phenotype is African(Nigerian). I do terribly on tinder it's around 0 - 2 likes a week. On BLK a black dating app its 1 or so a day; goes to show.
ez solution just keep in kind 1 point of deviation for preference
Agreed!
Bro make a Tinder as a sub5 and some model Chad, and give it your best as a sub5, then as Chad be 10 times worse
I definitely may do this at some point in the future using photos of me when I was fat and balding and then using my photos now. It's night and day to say the least lol
I know someone who did something similar. The fake profile as a college jock had girls flirting to bad game. The more valuable you are, the bigger the margin of error you get
Yeah rating someone who is below average can be difficult cause you don't want to make him upset or depressed. Sometimes when I see someone completely below average I don't want to rate him honestly, because after that he can feel desperate, and it will be on my conscience
It’s important to be brutally honest, if someone feels bad about it that’s on them.
Agreed! Yeah, it would definitely be brutal to give out a very low rating.
Micheal B Jordon is a 6.5 but lot of people think he's above a 8 you are correct!
Chadlite what are your thoughts on this: dont emulate the game of someone who’s much better looking say by >= 2 points
I agree with you. Taking advice from a guy that's much better looking than you isn't ideal. The advice they give you may work for them but may not work as well for someone who is 2 points lower.
Everyone is a gigachad at heart
LOL cracked me up
We are all 9 with filter fr
Taylor best described as pretty cute far from hot. 6 to 7
Life experience will give you your rating.
Very unfortunate that some take them seriously
I would say that you can grade yourself based on the types of women who approach you. If you put effort into yourself and still struggle then you know you are below average and that it’s a futile effort.
Yeah, true!
8 inches.
Rating range is the best system imo. Plus or minus a point or 1.5 if you’re a niche nonwhite
Non white,? The most attractive colour is light brown skin. Because it signals youth in both men and women.
Lol no @karan_singh.364
@@filthyvibes4768 go reasearch.
No@@karan_singh.364
In your opinion do some good looking guys look shit on camera but in person are way better looking ?
🎉
It only matters how women react. Guys like WW etc are trying to leech off men and give them false hope.
european beauty standards have y’all cooked.
I think the black pill community is already oversaturated with TH-camrs who do face ratings (e.g. Wheat Waffles, Nero Angelo etc)
Yeah, it’s a bloody ocean. There are tons and tons of channels doing them now so you’d have to compete hard for a low return on investment.
How do u rate yourself
Very low 7 facially, with height and physique probably a 7.5.
Thank you for not doing face ratings!
They're pointless. Just get on the right side of the Orgasm Gap. Totally different world over here.
3:01 taylor swift is a 5, I see beckys who mog her literally every day
I see her as a 7. I tend to go for blondes and I also like tall women. She's definitely hit or miss for people. I have a buddy that think she's a 10 lol
@@ascended266 she is a 7 in some pictures to be fair. But also I think beauty is subjective at least when it comes to men judging women. My friends seem to disagree over Zendaya as well cuz I would rate Zendaya a 7 objectively and others would call her a 3/4 (coping) or a 9/10 lol
@@StefIsCold I agree with you on Zendaya. I see her as a 7 as well.
I think for Michael B Jordan what drives him up to Chad range is his body and height.
High tier normie face with top 5% fitness + 6ft tall.
In my opinion, Taylor swift is like a three
To each their own! I see her as 7, no higher, no lower. I have a friends who thinks she’s a perfect 10 lol
Bro they where coping Tylor Swift is very cute and have nice body! She is far far away from 5 🤦😂😂😂
Yeah, I think she is attractive, not super attractive but definitely a 7.
@@ascended266She looks average to me.Cant rate anything above 6
how can i contact you
Feel free to shoot me an email at chadlite130@gmail.com. I check every few weeks.