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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 25 มิ.ย. 2024
- In this video, I discuss whether height or having a good body is more important in attracting women.
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One of the most blackpilling things for me was when I was living in the Texas suburbs. I am 5'11 and living there for 2 years, I didn't see a single guy who had kids that was shorter than me. All of the guys with young children were all at least 6ft+.
Interesting! Yeah, there are a lot of tall people in Texas.
Love your vids and insight. Your channel has really elucidated and explained a lot about male-to-female dynamics, and the importance of lookism in general.
Thanks Dave! I appreciate that.
@@ascended266 Would love for you to do a video on non-physical qualities, like charisma or 'verbal game' as those in the PUA community call it.
I’m 5’10” with shoes on but 5’9” with out them. I don’t think height helps me or screws me. My lack of muscle and hair screws me.
Yeah, 5'9-5'10 is a pretty neutral height to women. Lack of hair definitely will bring you down more than lack of muscle though.
@@therealmcgoy4968U need to lower body fat first then add muscle mass just so u know🎉
Physique matters more only after a man reaches a certain height threshold. For example, a woman will probably pick a jacked 6’ or 6’ 1” guy over a Dad Bod or skinny 6’ 4”. But he needed to have a critical mass of height to begin with before it started to matter more so I would say physique only makes up about 2-3 inches of height. Jacked 5’ 10” beats normie 5’ 11” or 6’ but not 6’ 2”.
This is an interesting way to think about it. As a 5'11 guy who works out, this is useful to keep in mind.
Another informative and insightful video as usual 👍
Being at a low bodyfat percentage is definitely crucial to your overall heatlth and physique
But i can tell you sometimes it can ruin your facial attractiveness , especially if you have some flaws and imperfections in your eye area or when you have relatively narrow face , in those cases you need some bodyfat shrouding you under eye or cheekbone area imo .. at least from my personal experience
Thanks Bassel! I appreciate that. I see where you are coming from. There are definitely exceptions but I think overall being at a relatively bodyfat percentage will look better than being at a higher percentage.
Tall with wide shoulders/ v shape.
You should post more, your videos are lifefuel.
Thanks man! That's the goal. I wish I could just make content and eventually I want to get there but at the moment adsense doesn't pay that great lol thanks for your support.
I think physique can certainly give a guy who has in the door looks (who has good hair, skin) a halo effect, as long as you’re average height minimum. I do believe it comes with a sense of status and masculine grounding.
There’s a correlating effect that takes place at a certain threshold and it has a roof to how much certain factors can influence
Yeah, I agree with this. Your physique can definitely have a big impact.
could you do a video on becoming attractive but still lacking confidence from years of lack of experience?
Yes, this is a great idea. I've definitely faced this.
If you're a wide hips framecel, it's over for you. My hips are so wide that I even have difficulty buying pants. I think frame can be a cause of inceldom if it's bad enough, you can be tall with a decent face all day, but if your frame is truly atrocious, it's over. All of your attributes have to be at least average to not fail, if something truly stands out (like short height or a truly ugly face), it'll be over no matter what.
Yeah, having very wide hips as a man is brutal. It's definitely something that is hard to overcome. Wearing black shirts and pants could help to lessen the appearance but it's still a curse. If you have other good features to balance it out, that will help. I agree though, having a truly ugly face or being extremely short will really hurt you.
Chads will be scouting you out with those hips. You can cuck their Stacy gfs.
It's been over for me for a long time.@centouri
Dang, you were female you’d have the hottest body lol
Height is a brutal thing and goes beyond dating like being a 3 inches below average height hurts dating is whatever but it makes one feel demasculated (mogged)
Bro you uploaded 2 days in a row wow
I know TH-cam is not your primary job but at least you take time and tell us what really happens in real life as you are more wiser than us as someone who did looksmaxxing i really like your content❤
Thanks Saleem! I appreciate your support and glad that you enjoy the content.
Can u show us your workout routine and diet,we would appreciate that❤
Yes, definitely! I plan on making a video of this in the near future.
If woman is reasonable she will tell that she wants man somewhat taller than her. And she is 100% fair :
in average *man really is somewhat taller.
Height is obviously important but it stops being most important once *. From then it all becomes about face and phisique.
and both are equally important atractions. Face = fall in love, phisique = sexual.
That's objective truth most don't want to hear.
Height without face is irrelevant. Women aren’t lining up in the millions to date Shaq.
Totally agree. "Height is necessary but not sufficient". I think someone in the manosphere said this long time ago idr who, might of been Rollo Tomato tbh
They have been lining up for New divorcee Tom Brady thooo lol Brutal Mr Shaq
I think LTN to normie face with optimal height wins vs 5'3 manlet with Chad face tho
Haha agreed! Shaq has never been much of a ladies man lol
Or Bobi Marjanovic
Height is necessary but not sufficient.
Body is good to have but it's not usually necessary.
source: im kinda tall at 1.9meters 75in
Agreed! Body is a plus.
I don’t believe you can afford to not have a good body or be within good body weight. If you are fat it’s over.
If your frame is bad enough, it can cause inceldom. I can't even fit in most pants because of wide hips. Frame is life, if you have a bad frame you have a bad life. Muscle is cope though since they can't see it until they already chose to have sex with you, just like dickpill is cope.
I'm 5'8", and have had plenty of women.
In basement lol
Assuming you are average on every aspect,
Face 85% height 10% physique 5%.
This ratio changes if you go extreme but generally for normies this is true.
Not true at all. Height is about 45%, face is about 35%, everything else is 20%. Height is substantially more important than face on average. Almost every woman on the planet would rather be with a tall average guy than a really handsome 5'6 guy.
As a 6'4 tall guy I can say that height really do matter and I think everybody agrees. Every guy should strive to be best version of themself, this applies if you're 6'4, 6'1, 5'10, 5'6 and etc. Height can help on the first date but if you're not confident, don't have really much going on you're gonna fall out of the " boyfriend " category. I have learned that you have to be the best mix and balance of all the characteristics that people usually describe as great qualities ( funny, confident, well spoken, good, smart, empathetic ) and this is it. Don't think you're dating life is over if you're under 6 ft. I have many friends who are under 6' and have awesome girlfriends and they're very happy ! Wish everybody good luck and be safe ! Great channel btw !😎💯
Agreed! Thanks man! I appreciate it.
"as a 6'4 guy" stfu retard. I hate this comments
Sure being short has disadvantages, but at least we live longer. Only thing more intense than my short pride is my hatred for tall people, or as me and others like to call them "Biggers". SMALL POWER, SMALL POWER, SMALL POWERRR.
You said in one of your vids that you as 6.2 got mogged by a 6.6 swedish man. First question was if he was wearing shoes with bigger heels that max his height. Other question, saw another story about a village in the alphs where the majority of men there are 6.8+ and the women easily 6. In General, would the Ideal height for the majority of women(those who are not too short or tall) be around 6.4 to 6.6 in Europe(Maybe 6.4-6.5 the US), and different depending where you go? Thank you!
Yeah, I'm not sure if he was wearing shoes with bigger heels, I would probably guess not. I would say having a height over six feet will be ideal in most places in the world. If you go to a very tall country like the Netherlands, Sweden, etc. being over 6'2 will probably be ideal for the vast majority of women. I don't necessarily think being 6'6-6'8 will help you dramatically.
I'm on my way to 12%. I think this has been the missing piece of the puzzle all along.
when I was 6’4 at 15 I had a fair amount of girls that wanted to date me just because I was tall lol. but now that I’m almost 18 and 6’8 I feel it’s just too much even for pretty tall women I also have disproportionately long legs and I’m about 154 pounds so I basically look like a freak.
give me 5 inches of ur height bro
@@AKIRA-oz5cg I definitely would lol being this tall really has wayy more disadvantages than advantages the amount of times I hit my head everyday is insane and buying size 16 shoe and a 38” inseam in casual stores is literally impossible lol don’t know what I’d do without online shopping
Just get to the 220 pounds u will rock dont go dirty bulk,i am 6.5 i know what i am telling u 😊
@@TheWalkerOfThyGreen I’m actually literally build like slenderman lol
Ah interesting! I can see where you're coming from. I do think 6'4 is the ideal height but being 6'8 must be pretty cool sometimes.
Being tall not just an advantage when it comes to women but also career. Taller men are giving opportunities even when they don't have the skillset of a shorter guy.
im 6 feet and i still hit the gym .you have to max out
Yeah, ideally you want to max everything you can out.
yeah, btw I looked into Invisalign i should be getting them soon@@ascended266
Yeah everything matters.
I have seen lot of guys who are 12 to 10% body fat and dont have abs they are skinny fat but smaller version and those types of guys are far more in numbers than skinny abs guys while I am at 17 to 20% body fat and I have 4 pack because I train my abs but on the other things I agree most woman dont have high estrogen so they will like lean athletic build ones with high estrogenic body composition and gym girls like natural juggernaut build key word here is natual and I am speaking from experience
One thing that many guys don’t consider is how the body fits in proportion to the face.
The vast, vast majority of girls hate steroid bodybuilders, because it looks disproportionate, weird, terrifying, and ugly.
But even if you don’t take steroids, having a lot of muscle can either help or reward you depending on your face shape.
For example, a TH-camr called new black showed his female friends a few pictures of a self improvement TH-camrs. Both had rated jacked and stacked as a 7 at first. But once his height was revealed, (Jacked and stacked is 5’7 btw) one of the girls gave him a 5, saying that he had way too much muscle, and that it make him look even shorter.
But they did make an exception for guys like Austin Dunham. Because 1. Their face shape was matched their muscle mass, and two, they had just the right amount of muscle that didn’t make them too unappealing.
But then you see tall chads who are skinny, and women are ready to pounce as soon as they look at them.
It’s really tough honestly, because on one hand, short guys have to compensate for their height, but if they put on too much muscle, then they’ll look shorter and less appealing. But girls don’t want to date a guy who looks anorexic.
I honestly think that going the body weight route Is the best as it gives you just the right amount of muscle without going overboard.
AND DON‘T NEGLECT THE NECK!!
Great assessment man! Your body and face definitely need to be in proportion. It sucks that when short guys get really jacked women view it as they overcompensating.
Like all these factors they are correlated, have thresholds on when and if they’re influential, and they all have a limit as to how influential as well.
I’ve seen 6ft dudes, who are jacked, come off as way more attractive then if They weren’t jacked (steroids). Even as a dude I subconsciously am aware of a dude who’s bigger than me/more aesthetic and from that alone his status is higher (this applies to women also)
It always has to be an apples to apples comparison.
So its not simply a guy thats tall and fat vs a guy who's an inch shorter, but built like a greek god.
What a good one to use would be:
A guy who is a 9/10 in height but a 6/10 in physicue, versus a guy who is a 6/10 in height with a 9/10 physique.
I think a 9/10 in height would be a man between 6'0 - 6'2''.
And a 6/10 in height would be a man between 5'6''-5'8''.
A 9/10 would be a guy who is definitely not fat, and also very muscular, just perhaps not bodybuilder level.
A 6/10 would be a guy who might have a few extra pounds, but isn't built muscular at all. Not necessarily embarassed to have a shirt off, but has a bit of flab etc.
It is in my opinion that women will choose on an apples to apples comparison HEIGHT.
They will filter by height first, so the 5'7'' guy doesn't even register to look at his muscles.
She'll just see his 6'1'' counterpart casting a shadow over him.
Not the way I wish it was, just the way I see it from lots of personal and research observations.
There is definitely some truth to what you are saying. There's a lot of nuance and variety on what women like in physique more than height I would say though.
It's amazing how obsessed some men are about what they think a woman's preferences are when women are not loyal to anything besides their emotions. & for anyone who thinks that taller equals a better protector then just go visit a maximum security prison. Tall men are not running the yards. I'm 5'10 & have never in my life heard a woman say that she won't deal with me because I'm not 6ft. I've even had married women cheat on their 6ft husbands with me. Women are emotional, so any height of man can have her if makes her feel a certain way. Also, women only set superficial parameters for men that they're not mentally or emotionally attracted to. If she's mentally & emotionally attracted to you it doesn't matter what you look like or how tall you are. & if she deals with you for superficial reasons, she's going to treat you bad in the relationship. Lose your job, she's gone. Show any emotion as a man, she's gone. Cheat on her, she's gone. When she's genuinely attracted to you, she'll stay no matter what. I know this because I've experienced it. Also, when a woman is genuinely attracted to you, she'll spend her money on you.
i think you nailed it here bro. Learn the game and how to spike womens emotions and implement tension
What are your thoughts on the Oofy Doofy Theory? Video response please.
Haha I have some thoughts. I will keep this in mind for video ideas.
Where do you get Chad photos for your videos ?
Storyblocks mostly!
you need both to be chad
1000+ hours in DOTA is most important. Trust me bro.
Haha and don't forgot 10 showers a day! Both are way important than height.
Lets say we have one face but 3 guys. One is 6 feet and regular gym goer, lean body, the other one is 6.1 and skinny and third is 6.2 but bit overweight, sloppy stomach... Who got the gold, silver and bronze in your opinion? I would go 6 feet gold, 6.1 silver and 6.2 bronze..
Yeah, I would agree with this 100%.
the average american is heavier not taller compared to 20 years ago bruh
Nailed it. A good-looking guy that is 6'2 is definitely worthy of a dste and some serious consideration. A good-looking guy that is 5'8 is going to start in the Friendzone.
PREACH
Where would a 5'11 guy end up? Im using this as the average but it's also my height.
@@karma15075’11 is perfect. I’m 5’9 1/2 but I wish I was 5’11 barefoot.
Personality
#personalitybro
Unironically it does matter for long term
If your not on drugs it’s going to be impossible to hit the unattractive muscle limit at sub 13% BF.
We are talking absolutely blasting levels/ years of building to hit that
Right, I hear you.
The mass gainers and bulking makes me look like Roger from American Dad but with chubby cheeks, my belly looks bloated and pregnant as nothing goes on my chest or arms.
Have too much fat then my man - once you cut you will look like your arms are relatively bigger
@@HaveaGoodKnightTonightProblem is I have very thin bones and very thin wrists, then when I have no body fat I just look tiny.
I'm 5'5 and black with a good face. Over.
face (50%) Height (40%) Physique (10%)
Nice assessment lol pretty spot on for the most part
@centouri you can get away with being 6'3 and ugly but can't get away with being 5'7 and great face.
Face is 80%
@centouri Well it has to be at least 70%. If you are average dude of 6'3 and a good build, you are still left with nothing.
@@kohkoh6601 many women go for 6'3 ugly guys because they put extra weight on height. Many short women would still go for a 6'3 as they think about wanting to have taller children. In some cases height can be as high as 70-80% in a woman's decision, on average its more like 40% tho
It's ok to work on your self and it's ok to work out but do it for yourself and not for women i mean why should you do all that work just to give it to a woman who doesn't work on her self and that goes for long term relationship to if you are just going to do it for women big mistakes so do it for yourself and not for women
I think body is more important but having good face, good hair, good muscle and good height will be winner winner chicken dinner. I think if you have at least three of these you will do better or attract women. If you don’t tick at least three of these boxes then you will definitely struggle.
Yeah, agreed!
What's the difference between muscle and body?
Your so young chics like personality
lol
How do you think dating is for Asian guys?
same they want tall dark and handsome if you ask them, but in reality a girl will fall for you if you have humor and a good communicator.. also dress well and smell well ... thats it..
From what I've seen, it depends on what city you are in and how attractive you are as an Asian guy. Some of the Asian guys I know live in San Fran and are more of the tech nerd stereotype and they tend to struggle there but I also know an Asian guy who is tall, good looking, has a really good career and well built and does very well with women.
5.11 is good in india or not the avg is 5.6 ??
In India, I think you're okay at 5'11.
Having muscles doesn't matter if you have clothes on you, so better dress well with good style than grow big muscles.
Wrong you look better with clothes on when you have muscles it makes you more masculine.
Everything he is saying is 100 percent correct.
Thanks man! I appreciate it.
Wrong! You red-pillers are hilarious thinking us women prefer tall height over a slim guy.
Even your own personal experiences proves that you’re wrong on us women valuing height over physique 🙄 I was getting into your videos and really agreeing with you on what us women want until this one. I do agree that a slim figure with some muscle is the ideal for most of us, though.
I'm glad that you're liking the videos Caisiee! From my personal experience, I feel that women value height much more than physique despite my experience being very overweight previously and now being in good shape. If I wasn't tall, I'd be invisible.
@@ascended266 Well in my experiences even 5’4 guys can easily get attractive women, including myself, as long as they have a hot face, nice hair, and slim body. Sometimes not even all of that is needed. Of course there are many women who prefer a 6’ plus guy but, including your former self, most would reject every overweight one (unless the woman’s overweight also) and I’m sure would choose a 5’10 slim one if those were the only 2 options.
@@caseyjc5 Ah I can see where you're coming from. Height starts to become an advantage once you're not overweight. I can resonate with that and could see how women would choose a shorter guy who is more faciallly attractive and in better shape over a tall overweight guy(my former self).
I'm curious what did you agree with on my videos?
@@ascended266 Basically agreed that women seek attractive men like men seek attractive women and that if you’re considered average or below average to improve your looks as much as you can. Though to me that’s just common sense, but maybe it isn’t sense that’s so common.
This is all bs the answer is neither, you can be 6'4 and body builder and still not know how to talk to women your still not getting none. Game reigns supreme!
I'd say being less than 180cm is a severe damage to one's dating life. Speaking from a gen z perspective.
Yeah, I could see that. It seems that Gen Z is way taller than other generations.
Im 172cm barefoot, of course i wish i was taller, but girls dgafb. Its mostly my autistic behaviour that i need to fix 😂
No it's not
I wouldn’t say “Severe”
It’s 200% height.
Yeah, height is much more important than physique.
We all know it's money.
Money certainly helps especially as you get into your late 20's and beyond.
It does more than help. Would these athletes have sexy girls hanging on them, if they had a $50K/year job? @@ascended266
I haven't started the playback yet. Before I watch, I will say, as a short man, that height is more important. Let's see if I'm right...ummmmmm... Yep, I was right. I know from experience, being 5-3.
For women, height is king, end of story.
Agreed! It's super important.
Height, you can only stay jacked for so long and you can’t do anything about your height
Very true!
Short men should leave the West.
Short men definitely will have more success in dating outside of the west for sure. I do know some short men that have found relationships in the U.S. though. They seem to have everything else going for them though.
Just buy a wheelchair bro.
Face 50
Height 30
Body 20
You haven been in Netherlands & Kenya my friend you will be a Midget.
Yeah, I definitely felt very short in Sweden as a 6'2.5 barefoot man lol I can imagine I would feel like a midget in the Netherlands.
nah when I was 6’2 and visited The Netherlands I was taller than 90% of people also depends on where you are in the south of The Netherlands the average height is 5’10 so barely any difference compared to the US
I believe Americans are one of the tallest especially African Americans.@@theborderlinegiant
Depends if you're hanging out with shrunken grandpas and grandmas @@theborderlinegiant
@@camelcasee nope when I visited The Netherlands majority of people my age were shorter than me visited for two weeks