It's really brave of you to sit there and play stuff that you're learning with all the short comings to show people how to go about learning. Well done❤
Tina, this is so brilliant, thank you! It's wonderful to be able to watch your process, and I truly appreciate your sharing it. I loved some of those lines you were playing, even when you were just 'exploring'. I think it's great to be reminded of the fact that some of the work we have to do as improvising musicians will in fact be a bit boring at times, while we work things out. But all those ideas we come up with when we're exploring will definitely be of some use when we improvise in performance. Great stuff, cheers!
good idea play over a loop 2 chords at a time I get the concept of bullet points but true improvisation is trying to do something you've never done before, maybe bullet points are useful for saving face after a train wreck one time I read holdsworth said gary husband told him when improvising you have to be willing to get shit on your face the other quote was Charlie Parker - First you learn the instrument, then you learn the music, then you forget all that s**t and just play, kind of like learn everything then forget it i love your channel tina I'm a guitar player who taught myself violin and I once played bass in a jazz band, there are few guitar players i would play bass for but if you lived near me i would invite you to form a trio my mantra is to play violin like cotrane and guitar like bill evans (like ralph towner)
Have you heard Ralph Towner play my foolish heart yet ? I think few understand Bill Evans harmony like him and Ted Greene. I have the two oop towner books of sheet music if your're interested I can make copies. These books I think have become very expensive but are a treasure trove of harmonic knowledge.
Hello Tina, I have tried to contact you about the end of your patreon via the patreon mailing system , but no success. I wanted to download the PDF as you recommended and available until the end of the month but the patreon seems empty already . Can you help me ?
12:40 django !!! for straight jazz guitar i like joe pass, django, and george benson, this video you brought me closer to django, I love you for that brielli lagrene and his friend angelo debarre sound like django, I have been working on the video performance they played together of there will never be another you, a real shred fest th-cam.com/video/tbqkO7kp-KQ/w-d-xo.html
I only discovered this video recently, I think this is a really awesome lecture about improvisation and modal jazz The pat martino lick has to be one of the coolest ideas ive ever heard I thought you might be interested in this video... th-cam.com/video/a8swaXcACXA/w-d-xo.html I got his cd hand farm in the 90s he later made a record with michael manring who i already knew from the windam hill label he talks about mclaughlin eric johnson and sounds alot like shawn lane, these are guys ive known about for a really long time
i came up with an idea you might be interested in making a video about sequencing i remember cutting out a page from guitar player magazine in the 80s was an ad with don mock giving a musical example of sequencing as advertisement for musicians institute in hollywood i think was founded by howard roberts and joe diorio and later discovering how coltrane would use sheets of sound and torrents of notes sequenced through chord progressions the first jazz standard i learned was autumn leaves which is really just a motif sequenced in patters moving in 4ths, taking a motif and translating that pattern relative to a different mode like the pattern in a minor as a 6 chord and taking that pattern but starting on a different note in the scale, what notes would you play if you took the same pattern but play the a minor chord pattern and translate that to d minor as the 2 chord and keep moving in 4ths 6 2 5 1 4 7 3 My idea is for you to give us 1 or 2 really good motifs that you think are especially important and show us how you would sequence this pattern over the changes of various standards what do you think about that ? I was actually thinking about making a video like this of my own revealing improv ideas that i came up with and showing how it can be sequenced, my idea is to encourage everyone not to steal other peoples ideas but to try and find things that you came up with and striving to find your own voice and unique vocabulary of unique improvisation ideas you make a video i make a video and so does everyone else i read a thing some guy was talking to lester young asking why he doesnt play charlie parker licks and he said bird plays his licks and i play mine bireli lagrene is probably the best traditional jazz guitar player i heard and sounds like django, coltrane and parker mancuso doesnt sound like anyone else at least to me holdsworth developed a unique language and with the sheets of sound in very modern patterns
When you improvise you don't think. You feel; you react and you make an offer to the others in the band which they take or not. Scales and patterns are utterly useless when improvising. It is a contradiction in terms to intelectualice improvisation. If you feel playing the first 3 notes of Haenschen Klein oder leise rieselt der Schnee; do it. Even out of tune. That's improvisation. There are no rules. No restrictions. Just let your fingers run.
Man, how are you gonna know what sounds you want the instrument to make and where to find them if you don’t have that foundation of scales or triads ect. You can mention people like django or Wes Montgomery ect who didn’t know theory or whatever but if you’re commenting on a video about how to improvise you’re probably not like them :)
Thank you Tina. I really like your videos. This one reminds me of a Jim Hall quote: "I make a living recovering from mistakes."
exactly!! LOL
It's really brave of you to sit there and play stuff that you're learning with all the short comings to show people how to go about learning. Well done❤
thank you!
Excellent idea Tina 👍
thank you!
Thanks for your inspiration
I like the process !
Tina, this is so brilliant, thank you! It's wonderful to be able to watch your process, and I truly appreciate your sharing it. I loved some of those lines you were playing, even when you were just 'exploring'. I think it's great to be reminded of the fact that some of the work we have to do as improvising musicians will in fact be a bit boring at times, while we work things out. But all those ideas we come up with when we're exploring will definitely be of some use when we improvise in performance. Great stuff, cheers!
Thank Tina, it s helpful
This is perfect for me now
this is a great topic and well said. thank you!
Great tutorial. Thanks a lot.
good idea play over a loop 2 chords at a time
I get the concept of bullet points but true improvisation is trying to do something you've never done before, maybe bullet points are useful for saving face after a train wreck
one time I read holdsworth said gary husband told him when improvising you have to be willing to get shit on your face
the other quote was Charlie Parker - First you learn the instrument, then you learn the music, then you forget all that s**t and just play, kind of like learn everything then forget it
i love your channel tina
I'm a guitar player who taught myself violin and I once played bass in a jazz band, there are few guitar players i would play bass for but if you lived near me i would invite you to form a trio
my mantra is to play violin like cotrane and guitar like bill evans (like ralph towner)
cool!
Have you heard Ralph Towner play my foolish heart yet ?
I think few understand Bill Evans harmony like him and Ted Greene. I have the two oop towner books of sheet music if your're interested I can make copies. These books I think have become very expensive but are a treasure trove of harmonic knowledge.
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good process and love your effort :)
thank you!
Great stuff Tina. I was thinking about that yesterday but from the comping perspective. How do you practice that?
good question! maybe i make a video about it!
@@tinajackel yes please
Hello Tina, I have tried to contact you about the end of your patreon via the patreon mailing system , but no success. I wanted to download the PDF as you recommended and available until the end of the month but the patreon seems empty already . Can you help me ?
hi Anton please try again it should work now 😀let me know if it works now
@@tinajackel Hi again and thx for checking, not working yet but I hope in a few minutes ?
@@astorina please try again it should wokr now :) i will leave it online till the end of the week
@@astorina it should work now :)
@@tinajackel yesss.. I have downloaded all your work.... huge effort !! many things I will check out when I will retire ;-))
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12:40 django !!!
for straight jazz guitar i like joe pass, django, and george benson, this video you brought me closer to django, I love you for that
brielli lagrene and his friend angelo debarre sound like django, I have been working on the video performance they played together of there will never be another you, a real shred fest
th-cam.com/video/tbqkO7kp-KQ/w-d-xo.html
yes!! i also love this way of playing the diminished arpeggio across the fretboard!
I only discovered this video recently, I think this is a really awesome lecture about improvisation and modal jazz
The pat martino lick has to be one of the coolest ideas ive ever heard
I thought you might be interested in this video...
th-cam.com/video/a8swaXcACXA/w-d-xo.html
I got his cd hand farm in the 90s he later made a record with michael manring who i already knew from the windam hill label
he talks about mclaughlin eric johnson and sounds alot like shawn lane, these are guys ive known about for a really long time
i came up with an idea you might be interested in making a video about sequencing
i remember cutting out a page from guitar player magazine in the 80s was an ad with don mock giving a musical example of sequencing as advertisement for musicians institute in hollywood i think was founded by howard roberts and joe diorio and later discovering how coltrane would use sheets of sound and torrents of notes sequenced through chord progressions
the first jazz standard i learned was autumn leaves which is really just a motif sequenced in patters moving in 4ths, taking a motif and translating that pattern relative to a different mode like the pattern in a minor as a 6 chord and taking that pattern but starting on a different note in the scale, what notes would you play if you took the same pattern but play the a minor chord pattern and translate that to d minor as the 2 chord and keep moving in 4ths
6 2 5 1 4 7 3
My idea is for you to give us 1 or 2 really good motifs that you think are especially important and show us how you would sequence this pattern over the changes of various standards
what do you think about that ?
I was actually thinking about making a video like this of my own revealing improv ideas that i came up with and showing how it can be sequenced, my idea is to encourage everyone not to steal other peoples ideas but to try and find things that you came up with and striving to find your own voice and unique vocabulary of unique improvisation ideas
you make a video i make a video and so does everyone else
i read a thing some guy was talking to lester young asking why he doesnt play charlie parker licks and he said bird plays his licks and i play mine
bireli lagrene is probably the best traditional jazz guitar player i heard and sounds like django, coltrane and parker
mancuso doesnt sound like anyone else at least to me
holdsworth developed a unique language and with the sheets of sound in very modern patterns
When you improvise you don't think. You feel; you react and you make an offer to the others in the band which they take or not. Scales and patterns are utterly useless when improvising. It is a contradiction in terms to intelectualice improvisation. If you feel playing the first 3 notes of Haenschen Klein oder leise rieselt der Schnee; do it. Even out of tune. That's improvisation. There are no rules. No restrictions. Just let your fingers run.
Man, how are you gonna know what sounds you want the instrument to make and where to find them if you don’t have that foundation of scales or triads ect. You can mention people like django or Wes Montgomery ect who didn’t know theory or whatever but if you’re commenting on a video about how to improvise you’re probably not like them :)
i had to think about the John Scofield quote: „i never let the fingers do the walking“