I also got hooked on the desktop trackpad from using the MacBook Pro. Don't laugh at this, but I go left hand trackpad, centre keyboard, right hand mouse. I keep the keyboard central for comfortable typing.... and going touchpad + mouse when you have to work across multiple monitors and desktops feels like you're in minority report.
you are holding the magic mouse wrong and you are not using it correctly. try again, there is nothing out there that comes close to this. forget logitech scrolling this is the usual apple scrolling, 360, speed sensitive, bounceing, and you can brake it with touch and hold. you have to lay your hand on the entire thing flat down, pppl think this will interact with the touch but no, this is how its intended, and as with every other mouse and keyboard out there you have to use it for months till your muscles adapt to the new form, the natural form. then you have tested it properly. there are plenty touch and multitouch functions available, but first you have to use safari and not chrome because chrome does not have all the features. 1 finger doubletap to ai zoom, doubletap again to go back. 2 finger swipe left or right up down etc, there is a built in tutorial. also you do not have to charge any apple product, you can use the trackpad and mouse for months without a cable. you can adjust noise, force, forceclick, zoom ffd rwd click etc, there is so much to learn baout this devices,l it takes time. test again, properly
The Magic Trackpad is the most underrated accessory. I only use mouse for retouching now. For everyday use, office work, even for video editing, the trackpad wins by far. It's so much faster to get things done.
@@bradavon I love trackpad because of sometimes it’s the faster way to do things than moving your hand to the mouse, it’s a great addition, but mouse for me is necessary still
Apple’s trackpad game is so far ahead of the competition it’s insane… I knew it was good but I didn’t expect it to be THIS good. I bought the m1 MBA base model as my first Apple laptop and before that I used to be a windows (for gaming) and Linux (for work) user… I used to carry around a mouse and I believed a computer cannot be used without a mouse…. Now I actively dislike using a mouse and learnt to love using the touchpad. My mom has an early 2014’ MBA refurbished by a reputable (not certified tho) shop that I know the owner of … it was a bit overpriced at 400-450€ (at the time ) but other than the battery everything was polished and replaced. My mom says it’s battery still after all that usage from 2014 and its performance are much better than her work laptop she got in 2018 when the school she used to work at got state-funded laptops… specs were not bad, for a work laptop but if that old as heck Mac can outperform it and she also hates using a mouse now, you know apple is doing something very well… She also loves macOS now even though she is above 60 so learning a new os is not easy for her. My dad (70+) also loves using it and says it is great and it is much easier to use after a week or so… for work and stuff Mac is the go to option now… Gaming is secondary now due to lack of time and the way macOS operates is just way better for everything except gaming
You edit photos with a mouse? I presume you are referencing photos. How do you blend with a mouse? You have a lot less control compared to a tablet (like a Wacom tablet) especially when blending. I highly recommend you give it a go if you have not tried a tablet yourself, mate. The first week can be frustrating while getting used to it. However, once you become accurate with the pen, you get all the benefits a tablet gives you. I can’t edit without a tablet now, I find it too frustrating!!
I think the most underrated feature of the trackpad is being able to disable “clicking noise” completely in settings. It maintains the nice ‘clicky’ sensation silently
I've learned to use the track pad on the left side of the keyboard and my Mouse on the right as I'm right handed, it takes a little time to get used to using my left hand for gestures on the track pad but I found I like having both easily accessible this way. Love the video and looking forward to the Headphone review!
Definitely doing the same thing when I’m not using my MX master mouse. If you have the MX, you can integrate the gesture inside and you have the horizontal wheel so the trackpad lose its interest
@@doudoukong9274 same here... I've customized my mx3 to function like gestures. But I am intrigued by the track pad though... I, like Lee, use both OSs.win for work, Mac for personal... So having the MX easy switch is the killer combo for me.
I’m a new Mac user myself, and I do love Touch ID. That being said, I usually have it docked. If you set up your mac to unlock with your Apple Watch, it’s just as good. I walk up to my desk, move the mouse and the MacBook unlocks automatically. You can also use your watch to approve purchases or downloads instead of typing it in each time. I use the same Logitech keyboard in combination with my Apple Watch and don’t miss Touch ID at all.
@@TamilEelam1 I own a MacBook Pro only and that’s where I use it. It works when the lid is open as well as when it’s closed and your hooked up to a monitor.
@@i2LMedia Oh I have the new MacBook Pro 16inch M1 Pro but I use it without connecting it to an external display, which is maybe why I can't unlock it with my Apple Watch. I'll try it out with a TV or projector and see if it works with my Apple Watch!
I have the black track pad. It looks so much better with a dark wood 🪵 and black setup. Thanks for great insight into these products. Keep it up and can’t wait to see new videos.
The trackpad blew me away when I got it. My friend suggested I get it, and I stubbornly bought the stupid Magic Mouse because I figured we use mice with desktops and deal with trackpads while using laptops (which now sits in a drawer). After having owned the mouse beyond the return window, I ended up using his trackpad and bought it immediately. Game changer. I highly suggest it.
The sounds dropping in and out might be related to your settings. When you connect the headphones the first time, the software defaults to connect to the closest device in their range automatically or to whichever device is playing sound. In which case, if your phone is between you and the computer (or in your pocket), it might competing with the MacBook for the connection. Because of this, all my Apple headphones (AirPods Max, Pro, and the OG) are set to only connect to the devices "when last connected to them." So, I have to manually connect the headphones which I want to switch it from device to device, but it's less of a convenience instead of it switching randomly, especially when you're in a quiet place like a library.
@@Rberg1105 The AirPods Pro have the same setting, so I think the fact that you experience it on there just makes it more likely that that's the culprit.
wrong. the dropping out was because he had too many bluetooth devices connected at the same time. it is a mac problem. above 4-5 this happens. just disconnect some of them.
30 year Mac user here, funny we agree on all these products. As for colour of the trackpad, I've had a white one for as long as they've been around but decided it was time to get one for the office. I was aprehentious of the darker but that lasted about a second. DEFINITELY get the dark one you will love it.
The MX Keys is a must for me as it can connect to 3 different PCs, I have a Mac Mini, a desktop and a laptop and the experience is smooth. Plus it has the special Logitech Unifying Dongle, so you can connect it with your PC Bluetooth or this dongle that even works to access bios on PC on which Bluetooth didn't start yet. The only issue is the backlight is capricious and sometimes doesn't stop blinking for no reason.
Funny i love the magic mouse, especially for the touch screen .. so easy to scroll or double tap to enlarge. For me charging is not an issue. Yes it's a design flaw but you don't have to charge it that often and when you get the notification that it is almost empty than you can charge it for 5 minutes and it will make it to the end of day and you can charge it when you are off the computer or you watching a movie or something. I personally love the ergonomics. bigger mouses feel to lumpy for me .. i don't know maybe i have small hands :)
There is a firmware you have to upgrade the headphones. You shouldn't return them until you get them functioning properly because they sound better than the Sony or Bose ones. Plus the way they switch from device to phone is pretty nice if you are listening to music and get a call, it will switch automatically. It will constantly switch from device to device without the firmware update.
@@sasukeuchiha998 they are the best of the wireless headphones like the Sony and Bose ones but are they worth paying extra? I like how they switch from device to device easily so for me it is worth it but that might not be the case with you.
@@debatelordx My 1000XM4s can also switch between my laptop and phone seamlessly. Not sure why you think the Airpods Max are the only device that can do it. The dealbreaker for me is the absolutely stupid case, lack of foldability, absurdly heavy weight, shitty integration with anything non-Apple, and of course the price. As for the XM5s, the lack of foldability and NFC are a no-go for me.
"They put the charging port on the bottom". It literally takes less than 30 minutes for the mouse to go from 0-100% and the charges lasts for at least a month with heavy use. Don't understand how that's a design flaw. You charge it when you're not using it. Sick of hearing people complain about that.
“Its bad design” its literally just the charging port, and on the off chance you cant use it for 15 minutes because it died mid doing something. Make a sandwich or something lol
Go for the grey, if you’re anything like me having the white will eat away at you over time as it sits next to your keyboard. Crazy there’s a price difference for the same thing but that’s life.
100% agree with the trackpad, I've had several fancy mice, such as Logitech MX 1, 2 and 3, G502, G903 etc. I end up using the trackpad for my MBP and my Mac mini 95% of the time. The only scenario where it does not do well is for gaming.
Been following your journey to Mac keenly as I myself a life long windows user purchased a new MacBook at the same time as you and have tried the Apple keyboard and mouse. The quality of the mouse is fantastic, I so wanted to love it, but yes those ergonomics are horrendous, what were they thinking 🤔
Apple has ALWAYS made super terrible mouse even when Steve Jobs was alive they made that iMac mouse that was completely around. I don’t think anyone at Apple think they’d use it. It’s like a piece of art that compliments the computer, like a piece of “decorative” soap that girls put next to their sinks but is never used lol
I started the Windows to Mac journey about the same time you did, and have been enjoying seeing your take on it. I also ended up using much the same set of peripherals. The difference is that I just use the Magic Trackpad now without a mouse. I love that trackpad! I kept my MX mouse sitting next to me for awhile, but ended up never using it, so now it’s sitting in a box in the closet. I also love that Logitech keyboard. On the lack of a TouchID key, I notice you were wearing an Apple Watch in the second half of the video. Just set your Mac to unlock with the watch and you won’t miss the TouchID anymore.
I recently got a macbook as a lifelong windows user. I've used several linux distros alongside windows, and did use macs briefly at University. But I have found it a mixed bag. I only use the macbook away from the desk, so I use it solely with the built in trackpad. It's okay, but I do miss a mouse. Mainly when I am dragging things. I was surprised mac os doesn't have many options for windows snapping out of the box. I also find in visual studio, when doing a find in file, if I want to do find in all files, it does it different to windows to fit in the the mac way, and it's really tedious. A lot of other things like shortcut difference are just because I am so used to windows and standard keyboard layouts being different. One thing that is better is settings. Windows 10/11 the settings are all over the place and sometimes it's hard to find what you want. Also the way it handles audio is much better than windows too. If you have external devices and want to record stuff, it's a lot easier to configure things. Biggest plus for me, is the thing feels pretty solid, the screen is decent and the battery life is great.
@@robwalker4653 For me, the key to making the trackpad great is to go into System Preferences / Accessibility / Pointer Control / Trackpad Options and set the trackpad to use a three-finger drag. It is quick and easy and much more intuitive to me than a tap and drag. If you find dragging on the trackpad uncomfortable in the default settings, give this a try and see if you like it. I agree on the snapping, but there are so many good third party options (I use Swish) that it doesn’t really matter to me. I also had similar utilities under Windows to fine tune things to be the way I wanted. I just see finding the right utilities as part of learning any system.
For all the knocks on the Magic Mouse and its ergonomics/charging, I continue to use it because the omnidirectional scrolling allows me to work much faster with my photo workflow.
I agree with most of the things here! I don’t know if you already use one in your day to day life but the iPads and their corresponding pencils makes probably the best tablet/stylus experience. The Apple Pencil went through some hardware changes eg charging method but remains generally the same stylus experience since it’s creation- Which is honestly incredible and makes sense bc I don’t know how it could possibly improve. I’m a lowkey Apple fangirl but tbh I prefer Logitech accessories by a mile, I don’t think I could ever justify $600 headphones (unless they are perfection which they aren’t), and the mouse is just. I don’t even think they want people to use it tbh lol.
Lmao... The magic mouse is so thin unless you have the hands of a 3yr old the thing just disappears under your hand, I don't get it. Went back to my MX master 3s
As a left handed guy i've never had the space issue with the magic trackpad. Left side: trackpad, middle: keyboard, right: mouse. Daaamn i love so much the trackpad
Fellow TH-camr here! I had that same Bluetooth cutting off issue - I found out it was because I had too many Bluetooth devices connected (2x keyboards & 2x mice, trackpad and headphones) As soon as I removed one, bingo, Bluetooth solved for good - clear as day
TRACKPAD POSITION, what has worked the best for me is to position the trackpad as you would on a giant laptop, meaning below the keyboard. You push a little bit your keyboard to the upper side of the setup but you rarely have to move anything ever again and no component interferes with the other as well.
Well, according to Apple the Magic Mouse will give you 9 hours of use with only 2 minutes of charging. That is why it’s not a big deal that the charging port is located where it is.
Practically - sure. But why? Apple does weird stuff all time, but the justification for that is usually "we know better" (and in a lot of cases it's true, even though it usually involves limiting users' options). In this case though... just why? There's no reasonable justification. They could've made the charging wireless where you place it on a dock like Apple Watch. Better yet, make the charger optional and have the awkward lighting position an argument in favor of spending extra. You still can't use it while charging, but it makes sense at least. Or they could've made the front of the mouse a bit taller to accommodate a port there (lighting is a very slim port, it wouldn't even change the design that much). Instead, you have you're impeccably designed Apple workstation and a mouse laying on the desk upside down with a cable awkwardly sticking out of the middle of it. It's just uncharacteristic of Apple to have that as an official (and only) solution. I have most of the first-party accessories (I even have another Magic Trackpad on my PC, it's that good) and Magic Mouse is the only one that I just don't understand. I get the idea, but the product feels like it went for the concept phase straight into production and wasn't revisited ever since.
As I used magic mouse for some time charging is non existing issue. Plug it in, text a friend or just wait literally two minutes and you're good for a day. And if you go to wash your hands mouse is charged for two days. I can't imagine not being able to do that in a work day. And again if you plug it during the night few times a year it's always charged. However it's not ergonomic enough for my hand it always felt akward. Right now happy with MX Master
@@bezrodnyigor The question why is actually very simple. Apple advertise the magic mouse everywhere as a wireless mouse. They thought that the sight of someone using it while it is plugged all the time is not to great for the product marketing eg instagram photos or some other shit. So they positioned the port in such way that user is simply unable to use it while charging. It is not convenient for a potential user, but it's not a design flaw, they made it that way on purpose.
I can really recommend trying out the Logitech MX Master 3. It has a special thumb gesture button that allows you to do all the swipe gestures by moving the mouse like "4 fingers" while holding down the gesture button. This way I can keep my sanity in applications that either don't fully support the touchpad or use the mouse wheel for some inputs. Personally, I also think the Magic Mouse is an ergonomic nightmare, but I guess that's a matter of taste. By the way, you can charge the MX Master 3 mouse while you use it ;)
The MX Master 3 even follows the Apple style by putting something on the bottom of the mouse when it has no reason to be there. In this case it's the device switch button which works so much more consistently than Logitech Flow, but is really inaccessible without picking up the mouse and either awkwardly gripping it or using two hands. Despite this, it is a great mouse.
Totally agree with the MX 3S mouse... I'm new to Mac and tried the magic mouse for weeks but it's so dam thin it's uncomfortable to use. Loved the gestures you could use with it but just too small, wish they made one with a larger "hump".
The magic mouse definitively took some time to get used to and now I find it really useful for scrolling the web and apps. Would not recommend tho, there is so many other better mouses than do not require for you to get used to them to start enjoying them
For people with carpal tunnel, being able to switch between mouse and trackpad can halve or quarter stress (left and right handed use). Also, did you test call quality with AirPod Max?
I really appreciate your reviews in this video, and agree with your conclusions. I'm a Mac user who dearly loves his Magic Touchpad. I never even use a mouse on my Mac anymore, and the desk space for the trackpad is actually smaller than most mousepads are. I replaced my Apple keyboard a few years ago with a Reddragon keyboard with real clicky keys that just feel better to type on. And now I'm glad I chose my Bose QC-45s. I didn't even consider the AirPods Max because of their cost. I did try and return a pair of Sennheiser Momentum 3 headphones before deciding on the QC-45s. Like you and the AirPods Max, I did prefer the sound quality of the Sennheisers, but their bluetooth just would not stay connected to either of my HP Windows laptop or my M1 Mac Mini. Worked great on my iPhone, but not my computers. Unlike your QC-35s, the QC-45s don't seem to have a medium noise cancelling mode available on the button. It's either on or off.
I use the Magic Mouse on my iPad and Mac laptop. Can’t wait to get the trackpad and keyboard to go with it. Also really hope I can get the AirPods Max. I love Apple accessories 😁
I really like the way you review tech. I'm a PC guy but had tons of Apple product in my past. They are always really well built but I always felt they cost way too much for what they offer
About trackpad - if you are not a 100% right hand user, having trackpad on the left of the keyboard and mouse on the right might be a good solution. It needs some practise to get used to, but when you do, it’s a blast. Game on!
i used the QC35 when flying offshore in a helicopter for years, the noisecancelation could take 70 % of the noise. But the apple headphones are far better overall, but they are not good for travel.
I've had the Logitech keyboard for almost 2 months and had charged it once. I use it every day for long periods of times for work. In my opinion the best keyboard, I use a MacBook Pro as well as a Windows laptop and some times had to switch between them. I also have the the Logitech MX Master 3, and I was surprised with how well it works with the MacBook, it supports all gestures.
I find it too easy to accidentally go back with the Magic Mouse. The keyboard works great for me. I have the very first Magic Trackpad Apple produced; expect I would be very happy with the latest.
I use Synergy software to share my mac keyboard and trackpad across from Mac to Windows. That way it feels like one big dashboard. No need to switch, just move the cursor across. Still get the Ctrl/Cmd switching wrong sometimes, but that I can live with.
If the MX keys had TouchID it would be perfect, they have a new mechanical version with similar switches to the G915 which is amazing BTW. I’m using the black Apple over my MX keys simply because of TouchID. After using it a bit I have found I actually type faster on the Apple keyboard. Hate the Apple mouse, using MX Master three but love the Apple trackpad, ever liked them until I got a MacBook Pro and now hate not having one on my gaming PC. Great Review, very honest IMHO!
The Apple headphones look more balanced than the Bose on your head, to me at least🙃 And the sound is certainly great. It is a pity about the usage for you in wind.
Bose is not a producer of high end audio… it’s akin to Sony… they make marketable, feature-rich products, but the core feature is left lacking… e.g. the audio response in Bose is utter crap…
I think u should have tried the Magic Mouse way longer before giving a verdict. I also bought a Magic Mouse as well as an MX Master 3. I pretty much used them simultaneously for a time, till at some point I started using the Magic Mouse more and more over the MX, the reason for it is the same u got for the touch pad, setting up gestures for the mouse to go back and forth on pages, moving thru desktop by a swipe and very natural feeling scrolls thru pages. It feels amazing using my softwares with it. So yeah, my MX Master 3 started collecting dust because of that now.
I now you've likely figured this out by now but, you don't cup the Magic Mouse.. you lay your hand on it flat so the tips of your pointer and middle rest on the left and (if enabled) right click rather than cupping it as per traditional mouse standards. feels a lot better to me than cupping a mouse and leaves me with less finger cramping after extensive use.
I love the mouse and like the hidden charge port, makes it look sleek. Just charge once in a blue moon when your not using computer, never been a problem.
For the keyboard it would be nice if it was a bit more tilted. But overallI think it's pretty awesome. Really like the texture of the keys and the touch id is the most useful feature on a keyboard Ive seen in maybe ever. Not having to enter your password at all and just using that is so good.
I use the trackpad with my left hand (on left side of computer) and the mouse with the right hand. It makes me more productive and allows my right hand to rest. Takes a little getting used to but once you do there is no going back.
In regards to the lack of space for the trackpad on the desk, I've seen people position it to the left of their keyboard. The other possibility is to use a smaller keyboard like the MX keys mini.
I, too, stopped using magic mouse and bought a Logi M590, easy to move, easy to switch between devices, sits well inside my palm... so better control, and its battery lasts forever. Same way, I am using Logi k380 keyboard, small and sound less can connect to 3 other devices simultaneously. My iPad, MacBook Pro 16, and Dell Alienware gaming Pc are working with this setup flawlessly.
I agree, the headphones "look" really silly when wearing them. Agree with all your other conclusions as well and I have been 100% Apple for over 30 years.
I do NOT understand this concern over "looks" -- really... who cares what they look like? Wait till you're over 50 and learn to not care what others think. :)
I found on my AirPods pro that if you restart the device their paired to and forget the device in settings then repair them it fixes the sputtering problem
I have been using a Magic Mouse for years and I love it. To me with a large (glove size) hand it feels just right. The earlier ones used two AA batteries. The current model does charge underneath, just charge when not using it. System preferences under "Mouse" shows you the charge level. The charge lasts for many hours and there is a switch to turn off when not using for awhile.
For track pad + mouse combo, you can use track pad on off hand side. It’s annoying at first, but if you’re just using for gestures and web browsing you get used to it after a couple days and you don’t have to futz with its position on your desk anymore.
I enjoy your Mac reviews almost more than your photography videos 😂 Also I think that Apple listened to your critique of the donglebook pro back then, that’s why they brought back the ports in the new MBP.
Magic Trackpad always sits next my my Logitech MX keys keyboard, along with a silent mouse, The gestures are super helpful to me as a music producer and wannabe video editor. Scrubbing through the timeline is a breeze, especially in my DAW. Logitech Keys is much better for the reasons you pointed out. If the Magic Mouse wasn't so darn clicky loud, I'd use it everyday. Now it just sits in my drawer. I prefer a silent mouse because I'm super sensitive to sounds. I'm completely Mac for everything, except for my gaming PC that I rarely even turn on. I only game maybe once or twice per month.
I laugh at people who make fun of the Magic Mouse's inability to charge while being used; the design is nearly perfect. I use my iMac 8-10 hrs per day and the mouse will last about 2 - 3 months between charges. And a 10 minute charge will give you days worth of usage if you forget. So I hear people like Linus Tech Tips make fun of the mouse for this and yet he charges his phone every single night but can't charge the mouse a few times a year. Ridiculous! I also find the ergonomics of the magic mouse to be much better than the logitech mx mice. I also much prefer the ergonomics of the magic keyboard - the standard size - because it has no numpad so the ergonomics for my mousing hand is way better and no issues with carpal tunnel like with a huge keyboard with a numpad. Also, I built PCs for a decade and always had the best Logiech MX mouse and MS keyboards. They always started to look worn and had battery issues after about a year of use then they needed to be replaced. My magic keyboard and mouse both look brand new and have the same battery life now as they did new... and they are 6 years old! I will NEVER use a crappy Logitech MX mouse again (again, I used many of them).
Right!! Well said. I also prefer the ergonomics of the magic mouse now. I used to jump on the hate train but when I started using it, I fell in love with it (lol i sound like such an apple fanboy BUT the magic mouse is underrated) The mouse feels more natural on my hands (and I have big hands). Since the mouse has a slim profile, my hands can rest on the table and I find it smoother to lift up my right hand to switch to the magic keyboard as they are equally levelled. I sometimes forget that I’m operating a mouse? Which is really magical. Other mouses feels like I’m holding onto them and getting my hands off them needs me to fully lift my hands. A lot of mouse curves just feels unnatural to me and the magic mouse is kinda a one-size-fits-all solution. I only charge my mouse once every 3-6 months? And I never turn it off ever. Plus I love that the mouse has no charging port at the front. It’s not necessary since the battery health is amazing and it raises up the mouse, which defeats the purpose of its slim profile. Plus I think it looks ugly. Latency is also not an issue for me as I mostly do 3D work and light gaming (e.g. minecraft) but if you are a professional gamer, wired all the wayy. Lastly, I recommend a trackpad + MM combo. It’s really useful for video editing imo
@@henriks5008 Least functional? How so? You don't need the mouse to function when charging. You charge it a few times a year and get a week's worth of charge out of 10 minutes of use. There is literally NO reason to charge it when you use it. None. People who complain you can't use this when charging is like complaining you can't drive your car when you fill it up with gasoline (or use your Tesla when you charge it). It's asinine. Actually, the same people who don't mind spending 5 minutes filling up their car every other day, or charging their car every single night, complain they have to charge their mouse every 3 months for an hour at night when they sleep. LOL. Idiotic.
@@Kai-ow4ek Agreed Kai! Yes, I use my computer for work and play, so 8-10 hours every single day. My mouse is 6 years old and still lasts 3 months between charges and looks brand new. Not a scratch. It's made of glass and aluminum, not cheap plastic and rubber like logitch MX mice. I play games quite a bit (Dying Light, Tomb Raider, and other AAA titles) on my iMac and no issues with latency at all. And it never loses connection. And I NEVER turn it off. It's just so slick to use and I came from a PC where I used the best MX mice you could buy (and they broke every 8-12 months). The ability to scroll timelines in Davinci Resolve (or Final Cut) or move around an image in all directions by sliding your finger on the magic mouse is a game change for speed for me. Plus it is silent compared to the noisy wheel and buttons on a logitech mouse. Why would anybody want to use a mouse when it is plugged in? Makes no sense! Charge it once every season and you are gold! I mean, you can't drive your car when you fill it with gas, or drive your Tesla when you charge it, and you have to do both of those FAR more often (nightly with a Tesla vs a few times a year with a magic mouse).
@@77dris plus you shouldn’t keep your mouse charging while you are using it as it deteriorates the battery life faster. A good toilet break to charge your mouse would last you a day, so you can get back to work quickly.
It’s nice to see people be more interested in audio quality , most people will just get the cheapest headphones or speakers and never see what music can be for them.
I went all in on the track pad two years ago and haven’t touched a mouse since. Also, take those headphones on a plane and they will change your life. Finally, to edit with them you have to use the Apple connection wire. Even if you have a strong connection there’s a latency issue.
I stopped using a mouse a few years ago when I got my 2017 iMac and bought a trackpad instead, best purchase ever! I always had a difficult time with the ergonomics of popular mice and found the Logitec mouse with the ball on the side helped with the hand pain,.. until I started using the trackpad, night and day difference, never had any pain in my hand since, worth every cent!
The longevity of Apple products is the one thing you can’t experience yet. They last for years!! I still have a accessories and Macs from 2009! From Apple routers, Mac Pro, input devices etc
number 1 reason for me to still use the Apple Mouse: diagonal scrolling in photoshop! this saves so much time when you're zoomed in deep on a 100MP image for dust removal. Just like the old Apple Mouse with a scroll-BALL instead of a WHEEL, that was such a genius idea. Yes the Logi Mouse can also scroll horizontally, but having to alternate between that and vertical movement to pinpoint where you actually wanna go is really annoying to me in my workflow. the ergonomics of the apple mouse indeed suck big time. Also if you interested in the mouse get the version 1, it runs on AA batteries, rechargable ones that is in my case. ;) Edit: Biggest fail on Apple's side for me has always been the non-backlit external keyboard, I mean the damn thing has a fingerprint reader built in. xD They were one of the firsts to implement that with laptops, many other manufacturers by now have everything glowing in RGB like crazy, yet Apple wants you to pay for a plastic slab that you cant even see properly in the dark, not to mention the disgusting ergonomics on those "thin" keyboards. Rather get a Keychron and you'll love it.
Same, I can do so much more with the magic mouse than I could with all the Logitech MX mice I used over the years. Plus it lasts forever (as does the battery) while the logitech mx mice were cheaply built and would need replacing almost yearly for me (buttons/wheel would act up, battery would lose charge, and rubber would wear away).
Small note, huge recommend to get the TKL keyboard apple sells if you are limited on desk space. It's much easier to quickly jump between the trackpad and keyboard and the mouse doesn't feel so far away on the right that way. The TKL keyboard and trackpad is only a small bit longer than just the regular keyboard
I had a bit of the opposite experience lol. I've been using custom PC desktops for years and I wouldn't give it up. Performance and customizability is still superior there for the money. However, I thought that Apple always had the best bang for buck in laptops when you take into account quality, and now especially those M chips performance in small devices. But, I found a PC laptop for hundreds less than a Macbook air with the same performance in applications I use, more features, more ports, same build quality and I still am much faster in W10/11. What I've always hated about Apple, even when I loved them, is they think they know best. I know best. That 13 inch Macbook Pro and the Macbook Air. They need an SD card slot. But wait, Apple thinks people that use light affordable computers don't need it and want to use dongles. Do they provide another option? Nope. In PC land, there is always another option.
It's in System Preferences and it's called Tap To Click. Most of the gestures aren't enabled for the Magic Mouse. Yes, one does have to grip it by the sides because the top is touch sensitive. This is why I'm a Magic Trackpad person. The gestures make life so much better and trackpads are superior ti mice in all ways.
I use the Logitech MX Master 3 on the right of the keyboard as I’m right handed and use the Apple trackpad on the left side of the keyboard with my left hand. Once you get used to it, you become way more productive navigating though windows, software etc way faster.
The Magic Mouse is OUTSTANDING in my Production Environment. They have a trackpad on them. With Parallels there are a myriad of capabilities. I control 37 Servers as an automation specialist with ease. Example: double tap with two fingers and in the blink of an eye I can see real-time previews of what is happening on all of them and with a single click, move between them. Great for seeing and addressing error dialogs, etc. There are a bunch of other things like that. The charger thing however is something we all laugh about. Also just swipe left and right to go back and forth between Mac and Windows... if it's not working, it's Parallel's fault. It works by default. Check your Parallels' configuration.
Yea I agree, the charging port at the bottom of the mouse was a bonehead move by Apple. BUT, it lasts so long and charges so fast it makes it a second thought for me. I’m new to using the trackpad. Bought it for my wife three years ago. She never used it so I just started. Man, the feel and gestures are phenomenal. I only use the magic mouse for editing photos now. Regarding the headphones, I’m wondering if you have some kind of Bluetooth interference. I’ve never had a connection issue with my 🎧. I’ve had them for a year now and I use them at least 4 hours per day between my MBP and iPhone.
When you do the sound test for the headphones make sure to listen to a variety of audio. It's quite surprising just how much certain headphones are better with certain genres of music or for podcasts etc. I would say the Apple headphones have been balanced for the statistically most listened to audio like pop and podcasts.
Also, not sure what brands you are testing but I hope you are including Sennheiser and Beyerdynamic. I am still on their wired generation, and have Jabra Elite for my wireless in-ear. I've been extremely happy with all these. I think these brands strike a great balance between professional-use and personal-use level of audio while being price friendly. I'm looking for a wireless pair of cans so very keen to see your results mate.
From the brief look I got from your video, the headphones you are using to compare against the AirPods Max are not the best for audio quality. Phones from Sennheiser, Beyer, or Focal would be a better comparison, though they may cost more and might be wired. Wireless phones are great for convenience.
TouchID and the ultra thin design is the only reason I use me Magic Keyboard. For CAD I use the MX 3 mouse because of the missing middle button and the precise scrolling. For everything thing else, the Magic Mouse with its Touch gestures is the most comfort use.
I totally agree with you about your favorite mouse... A while ago I purchased a 3DConnexion Cadmouse Pro, because I wanted a decent professional mouse - with the middle mouse button as a nice added feature.. turns out the scrollwheel of that mouse just s*cks. I replaced it with the Logitech Master MX 3S and boy, I fell in love with that scroll wheel !
2 tips for the trackpad… 1. You can lay it in the middle in front of your keyboard and keep your mouse in the same position. 2. Connect it to an apple keyboard with the Twelve South’s magic wand. This will also make you able to use it in the couch with a pc that’s connected to your tv.
Re the Apple Keyboard: I still use an old school wired Apple Keyboard (with numeric keypad) - the kind that came with the iMacs starting from around 2011. No bells and whistles like Touch ID, but underneath it has a raised bar at the back which props it up at exactly the angle you want for typing. I'm probably going to hang onto this keyboard as long as it still works, even without Touch ID it's not such a big deal because you can always use that button directly on the MacBook Pro itself. Re the Magic Mouse: I guess I'm one of the rare people who actually really love it. As a professional user of Logic Pro, once you get used to being able to scroll up-down left-right (as opposed to just a scroll wheel with one axis), there's no going back. It.makes flying around your workspace and the interfaces a breeze. The other gestures are really useful just getting around the OS in general too. I also have very big hands, but this has never been an issue for me, in fact whenever I find myself working on someone else's setup with some kind of pro Logitech mouse or whatever, they always feel really clumsy and chunky to me now. And that's not because I never used them - way back when the original G4 PowerMac came with those terrible hockey puck mice, the first thing you would do is throw it in a drawer and go buy a fancy Logitech one instead. But since the Magic Mouse came along I haven't felt any burning need to look for alternatives - especially given how useful and intuitive the x-y axis scrolling on the touch surface becomes once you're used to it.
Great video. I would absolutely have to buy the black version of the touchpad to match my MX Keys. On the topic of noisy clicks I have the Logitech M590 which is very quiet, although it takes (rechargeable) AA batteries and I would not get this exact model again for that reason. The relative silence however is wonderful, and switching of both control devices is perfect as my desk area is set up with both MacBook Pro and Surface Laptop.
Track pad color: "Ebony and Ivory live together in perfect harmony." Interesting video! The followup on the headphones should be kool. I almost bought a pair but not even sure I can hear well enough to tell the difference!
The Logitech MX Keys for Mac is my preferred keyboard. Along with the Logi MX Master 3 mouse they make a great combo. Don't miss the Touch ID since I use an Apple Watch to unlock and authenticate.
I use the MX master and trackpad in different hands. Put the trackpad in your non dominant hand for an easy way to scrub through timelines and zoom in etc.
I love most apple products. I use the airpods max every day. Be better with an actual case, on/off switch and better battery but I love it and it’s better than everything else I’ve use.
I agree the Apple keyboards are a bit flexy, although as a desk accessory, they’ve obviously banked on the desk itself supporting the keyboard, and I have a set of original keyboard/mouse in this style that STILL function and look practically brand new many years later. Bonus: the OG mouse just takes two AA batteries, no helpless turtle charging.
I have the MX Keys and MX Master 3 Mouse. Both are great. I use it with my Windows and Mac mini, the Flow feature on the mouse is great and it easly goes from the Mac to the Windows computers almost like it is one computer. I do have the Apple Track pad and I love it too. Great Video!
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I've got to say, having used the magic mouse I can see why they're useful but I think I'll take a trackpad over a magic mouse everytime
I also got hooked on the desktop trackpad from using the MacBook Pro. Don't laugh at this, but I go left hand trackpad, centre keyboard, right hand mouse. I keep the keyboard central for comfortable typing.... and going touchpad + mouse when you have to work across multiple monitors and desktops feels like you're in minority report.
For the headphone test consider using a blindfold to prevent bias.
you are holding the magic mouse wrong and you are not using it correctly.
try again, there is nothing out there that comes close to this.
forget logitech scrolling this is the usual apple scrolling, 360, speed sensitive, bounceing, and you can brake it with touch and hold.
you have to lay your hand on the entire thing flat down, pppl think this will interact with the touch but no, this is how its intended, and as with every other mouse and keyboard out there you have to use it for months till your muscles adapt to the new form, the natural form.
then you have tested it properly.
there are plenty touch and multitouch functions available, but first you have to use safari and not chrome because chrome does not have all the features.
1 finger doubletap to ai zoom, doubletap again to go back.
2 finger swipe left or right up down etc, there is a built in tutorial.
also you do not have to charge any apple product, you can use the trackpad and mouse for months without a cable.
you can adjust noise, force, forceclick, zoom ffd rwd click etc, there is so much to learn baout this devices,l it takes time.
test again, properly
Are you going to review Airpods pro?
The Magic Trackpad is the most underrated accessory. I only use mouse for retouching now. For everyday use, office work, even for video editing, the trackpad wins by far. It's so much faster to get things done.
It looks useful but on a desktop you've got shortcut keys. Useful if you've only got one hand free. Damn expensive though.
@@bradavon I love trackpad because of sometimes it’s the faster way to do things than moving your hand to the mouse, it’s a great addition, but mouse for me is necessary still
Polling rate is just 90 compared to macbook’s 125 and it really makes the diff
Apple’s trackpad game is so far ahead of the competition it’s insane… I knew it was good but I didn’t expect it to be THIS good.
I bought the m1 MBA base model as my first Apple laptop and before that I used to be a windows (for gaming) and Linux (for work) user…
I used to carry around a mouse and I believed a computer cannot be used without a mouse…. Now I actively dislike using a mouse and learnt to love using the touchpad. My mom has an early 2014’ MBA refurbished by a reputable (not certified tho) shop that I know the owner of … it was a bit overpriced at 400-450€ (at the time ) but other than the battery everything was polished and replaced. My mom says it’s battery still after all that usage from 2014 and its performance are much better than her work laptop she got in 2018 when the school she used to work at got state-funded laptops… specs were not bad, for a work laptop but if that old as heck Mac can outperform it and she also hates using a mouse now, you know apple is doing something very well…
She also loves macOS now even though she is above 60 so learning a new os is not easy for her. My dad (70+) also loves using it and says it is great and it is much easier to use after a week or so… for work and stuff Mac is the go to option now…
Gaming is secondary now due to lack of time and the way macOS operates is just way better for everything except gaming
You edit photos with a mouse? I presume you are referencing photos. How do you blend with a mouse? You have a lot less control compared to a tablet (like a Wacom tablet) especially when blending.
I highly recommend you give it a go if you have not tried a tablet yourself, mate. The first week can be frustrating while getting used to it. However, once you become accurate with the pen, you get all the benefits a tablet gives you.
I can’t edit without a tablet now, I find it too frustrating!!
I think the most underrated feature of the trackpad is being able to disable “clicking noise” completely in settings. It maintains the nice ‘clicky’ sensation silently
I had no idea!! Nice tip!
Didn’t know thanks bro
I've learned to use the track pad on the left side of the keyboard and my Mouse on the right as I'm right handed, it takes a little time to get used to using my left hand for gestures on the track pad but I found I like having both easily accessible this way. Love the video and looking forward to the Headphone review!
Interesting idea
Definitely doing the same thing when I’m not using my MX master mouse. If you have the MX, you can integrate the gesture inside and you have the horizontal wheel so the trackpad lose its interest
This is the best way! Easily best of both worlds!! Great review
100% the way to go. Gestures on trackpad are easy to pickup with non-dominant hand. Nice video!!
@@doudoukong9274 same here... I've customized my mx3 to function like gestures. But I am intrigued by the track pad though...
I, like Lee, use both OSs.win for work, Mac for personal... So having the MX easy switch is the killer combo for me.
I’m a new Mac user myself, and I do love Touch ID. That being said, I usually have it docked. If you set up your mac to unlock with your Apple Watch, it’s just as good. I walk up to my desk, move the mouse and the MacBook unlocks automatically. You can also use your watch to approve purchases or downloads instead of typing it in each time. I use the same Logitech keyboard in combination with my Apple Watch and don’t miss Touch ID at all.
Can you use your watch to unlock a MacBook or a desktop mac only?
@@TamilEelam1 I own a MacBook Pro only and that’s where I use it. It works when the lid is open as well as when it’s closed and your hooked up to a monitor.
@@i2LMedia Oh I have the new MacBook Pro 16inch M1 Pro but I use it without connecting it to an external display, which is maybe why I can't unlock it with my Apple Watch. I'll try it out with a TV or projector and see if it works with my Apple Watch!
What Logitech keyboard exactly sir. Care to help with a link
@@Mghmgh894 Logitech MX Keys
20:18 That is why you get a compact keyboard that is without number pad etc. The normal Apple Keyboard, then the trackpad next to it.
I have the black track pad. It looks so much better with a dark wood 🪵 and black setup. Thanks for great insight into these products. Keep it up and can’t wait to see new videos.
The trackpad blew me away when I got it. My friend suggested I get it, and I stubbornly bought the stupid Magic Mouse because I figured we use mice with desktops and deal with trackpads while using laptops (which now sits in a drawer). After having owned the mouse beyond the return window, I ended up using his trackpad and bought it immediately. Game changer. I highly suggest it.
The sounds dropping in and out might be related to your settings. When you connect the headphones the first time, the software defaults to connect to the closest device in their range automatically or to whichever device is playing sound. In which case, if your phone is between you and the computer (or in your pocket), it might competing with the MacBook for the connection. Because of this, all my Apple headphones (AirPods Max, Pro, and the OG) are set to only connect to the devices "when last connected to them." So, I have to manually connect the headphones which I want to switch it from device to device, but it's less of a convenience instead of it switching randomly, especially when you're in a quiet place like a library.
I’m not sure about that. I only have an iPhone and I had this problem with my AirPods Pro.
@@Rberg1105 The AirPods Pro have the same setting, so I think the fact that you experience it on there just makes it more likely that that's the culprit.
@@Rberg1105 I've had the pro's for about 6 months. Never once had that problem.
@@cgi2173 used to happen frequently to me and quite a few others. But hasn’t happened in a while.
wrong. the dropping out was because he had too many bluetooth devices connected at the same time. it is a mac problem. above 4-5 this happens. just disconnect some of them.
30 year Mac user here, funny we agree on all these products. As for colour of the trackpad, I've had a white one for as long as they've been around but decided it was time to get one for the office. I was aprehentious of the darker but that lasted about a second. DEFINITELY get the dark one you will love it.
The MX Keys is a must for me as it can connect to 3 different PCs, I have a Mac Mini, a desktop and a laptop and the experience is smooth.
Plus it has the special Logitech Unifying Dongle, so you can connect it with your PC Bluetooth or this dongle that even works to access bios on PC on which Bluetooth didn't start yet.
The only issue is the backlight is capricious and sometimes doesn't stop blinking for no reason.
Funny i love the magic mouse, especially for the touch screen .. so easy to scroll or double tap to enlarge. For me charging is not an issue. Yes it's a design flaw but you don't have to charge it that often and when you get the notification that it is almost empty than you can charge it for 5 minutes and it will make it to the end of day and you can charge it when you are off the computer or you watching a movie or something. I personally love the ergonomics. bigger mouses feel to lumpy for me .. i don't know maybe i have small hands :)
There is a firmware you have to upgrade the headphones. You shouldn't return them until you get them functioning properly because they sound better than the Sony or Bose ones. Plus the way they switch from device to phone is pretty nice if you are listening to music and get a call, it will switch automatically. It will constantly switch from device to device without the firmware update.
For such an expensive product, they should just work out of the box. But would sure like to try them out.
Does it sound better than Sennheiser?
@@sasukeuchiha998 yes. The only one on the market that can compete with them in similar price range are the Bang and Olufsens.
@@sasukeuchiha998 they are the best of the wireless headphones like the Sony and Bose ones but are they worth paying extra? I like how they switch from device to device easily so for me it is worth it but that might not be the case with you.
@@debatelordx My 1000XM4s can also switch between my laptop and phone seamlessly. Not sure why you think the Airpods Max are the only device that can do it. The dealbreaker for me is the absolutely stupid case, lack of foldability, absurdly heavy weight, shitty integration with anything non-Apple, and of course the price. As for the XM5s, the lack of foldability and NFC are a no-go for me.
"They put the charging port on the bottom". It literally takes less than 30 minutes for the mouse to go from 0-100% and the charges lasts for at least a month with heavy use. Don't understand how that's a design flaw. You charge it when you're not using it. Sick of hearing people complain about that.
“Its bad design” its literally just the charging port, and on the off chance you cant use it for 15 minutes because it died mid doing something. Make a sandwich or something lol
Go for the grey, if you’re anything like me having the white will eat away at you over time as it sits next to your keyboard. Crazy there’s a price difference for the same thing but that’s life.
100% agree with the trackpad, I've had several fancy mice, such as Logitech MX 1, 2 and 3, G502, G903 etc. I end up using the trackpad for my MBP and my Mac mini 95% of the time. The only scenario where it does not do well is for gaming.
Been following your journey to Mac keenly as I myself a life long windows user purchased a new MacBook at the same time as you and have tried the Apple keyboard and mouse. The quality of the mouse is fantastic, I so wanted to love it, but yes those ergonomics are horrendous, what were they thinking 🤔
They are perfect for using it as both a mouse and trackpad, which is what it's designed to be
Apple has ALWAYS made super terrible mouse even when Steve Jobs was alive they made that iMac mouse that was completely around. I don’t think anyone at Apple think they’d use it. It’s like a piece of art that compliments the computer, like a piece of “decorative” soap that girls put next to their sinks but is never used lol
I started the Windows to Mac journey about the same time you did, and have been enjoying seeing your take on it. I also ended up using much the same set of peripherals. The difference is that I just use the Magic Trackpad now without a mouse. I love that trackpad! I kept my MX mouse sitting next to me for awhile, but ended up never using it, so now it’s sitting in a box in the closet. I also love that Logitech keyboard. On the lack of a TouchID key, I notice you were wearing an Apple Watch in the second half of the video. Just set your Mac to unlock with the watch and you won’t miss the TouchID anymore.
I recently got a macbook as a lifelong windows user. I've used several linux distros alongside windows, and did use macs briefly at University. But I have found it a mixed bag. I only use the macbook away from the desk, so I use it solely with the built in trackpad. It's okay, but I do miss a mouse. Mainly when I am dragging things. I was surprised mac os doesn't have many options for windows snapping out of the box. I also find in visual studio, when doing a find in file, if I want to do find in all files, it does it different to windows to fit in the the mac way, and it's really tedious. A lot of other things like shortcut difference are just because I am so used to windows and standard keyboard layouts being different. One thing that is better is settings. Windows 10/11 the settings are all over the place and sometimes it's hard to find what you want. Also the way it handles audio is much better than windows too. If you have external devices and want to record stuff, it's a lot easier to configure things. Biggest plus for me, is the thing feels pretty solid, the screen is decent and the battery life is great.
@@robwalker4653 For me, the key to making the trackpad great is to go into System Preferences / Accessibility / Pointer Control / Trackpad Options and set the trackpad to use a three-finger drag. It is quick and easy and much more intuitive to me than a tap and drag. If you find dragging on the trackpad uncomfortable in the default settings, give this a try and see if you like it. I agree on the snapping, but there are so many good third party options (I use Swish) that it doesn’t really matter to me. I also had similar utilities under Windows to fine tune things to be the way I wanted. I just see finding the right utilities as part of learning any system.
@@robwalker4653 3 finger drag my friend. Have you found out about it yet? 😁
@@cgi2173 still behind windows in terms of windows snapping options out of the box...
For all the knocks on the Magic Mouse and its ergonomics/charging, I continue to use it because the omnidirectional scrolling allows me to work much faster with my photo workflow.
I agree with most of the things here! I don’t know if you already use one in your day to day life but the iPads and their corresponding pencils makes probably the best tablet/stylus experience. The Apple Pencil went through some hardware changes eg charging method but remains generally the same stylus experience since it’s creation- Which is honestly incredible and makes sense bc I don’t know how it could possibly improve. I’m a lowkey Apple fangirl but tbh I prefer Logitech accessories by a mile, I don’t think I could ever justify $600 headphones (unless they are perfection which they aren’t), and the mouse is just. I don’t even think they want people to use it tbh lol.
Lmao... The magic mouse is so thin unless you have the hands of a 3yr old the thing just disappears under your hand, I don't get it. Went back to my MX master 3s
As a left handed guy i've never had the space issue with the magic trackpad. Left side: trackpad, middle: keyboard, right: mouse. Daaamn i love so much the trackpad
Fellow TH-camr here!
I had that same Bluetooth cutting off issue - I found out it was because I had too many Bluetooth devices connected (2x keyboards & 2x mice, trackpad and headphones)
As soon as I removed one, bingo, Bluetooth solved for good - clear as day
TRACKPAD POSITION, what has worked the best for me is to position the trackpad as you would on a giant laptop, meaning below the keyboard. You push a little bit your keyboard to the upper side of the setup but you rarely have to move anything ever again and no component interferes with the other as well.
this worked perfectly for me. thanks
Well, according to Apple the Magic Mouse will give you 9 hours of use with only 2 minutes of charging. That is why it’s not a big deal that the charging port is located where it is.
It’s still dumb lol
@@quinnsells1222 Agreed
Practically - sure. But why?
Apple does weird stuff all time, but the justification for that is usually "we know better" (and in a lot of cases it's true, even though it usually involves limiting users' options). In this case though... just why? There's no reasonable justification.
They could've made the charging wireless where you place it on a dock like Apple Watch. Better yet, make the charger optional and have the awkward lighting position an argument in favor of spending extra. You still can't use it while charging, but it makes sense at least. Or they could've made the front of the mouse a bit taller to accommodate a port there (lighting is a very slim port, it wouldn't even change the design that much).
Instead, you have you're impeccably designed Apple workstation and a mouse laying on the desk upside down with a cable awkwardly sticking out of the middle of it. It's just uncharacteristic of Apple to have that as an official (and only) solution.
I have most of the first-party accessories (I even have another Magic Trackpad on my PC, it's that good) and Magic Mouse is the only one that I just don't understand. I get the idea, but the product feels like it went for the concept phase straight into production and wasn't revisited ever since.
As I used magic mouse for some time charging is non existing issue. Plug it in, text a friend or just wait literally two minutes and you're good for a day. And if you go to wash your hands mouse is charged for two days. I can't imagine not being able to do that in a work day. And again if you plug it during the night few times a year it's always charged.
However it's not ergonomic enough for my hand it always felt akward. Right now happy with MX Master
@@bezrodnyigor The question why is actually very simple. Apple advertise the magic mouse everywhere as a wireless mouse. They thought that the sight of someone using it while it is plugged all the time is not to great for the product marketing eg instagram photos or some other shit. So they positioned the port in such way that user is simply unable to use it while charging. It is not convenient for a potential user, but it's not a design flaw, they made it that way on purpose.
The "trackpad" is probably one of my favorite Apple products ever, hands down, no question about it.
No one makes trackpads like apple. its the most frustrating experience coming back to windows for me
I bought it recently and it is a fantastic device. Mine is the black/grey colour.
That's actually a really nice feature, especially if you're on a work call, since nothing annoys other users like clicking.
I can really recommend trying out the Logitech MX Master 3. It has a special thumb gesture button that allows you to do all the swipe gestures by moving the mouse like "4 fingers" while holding down the gesture button. This way I can keep my sanity in applications that either don't fully support the touchpad or use the mouse wheel for some inputs.
Personally, I also think the Magic Mouse is an ergonomic nightmare, but I guess that's a matter of taste. By the way, you can charge the MX Master 3 mouse while you use it ;)
I also use the mx master 3 the gesture support is amazing
The MX Master 3 even follows the Apple style by putting something on the bottom of the mouse when it has no reason to be there. In this case it's the device switch button which works so much more consistently than Logitech Flow, but is really inaccessible without picking up the mouse and either awkwardly gripping it or using two hands.
Despite this, it is a great mouse.
Totally agree with the MX 3S mouse... I'm new to Mac and tried the magic mouse for weeks but it's so dam thin it's uncomfortable to use. Loved the gestures you could use with it but just too small, wish they made one with a larger "hump".
I love the magic mouse. I can't use a mac without the mouse with the small touch pad on top. I use the gestures ALL the time
The magic mouse definitively took some time to get used to and now I find it really useful for scrolling the web and apps. Would not recommend tho, there is so many other better mouses than do not require for you to get used to them to start enjoying them
For people with carpal tunnel, being able to switch between mouse and trackpad can halve or quarter stress (left and right handed use). Also, did you test call quality with AirPod Max?
I really appreciate your reviews in this video, and agree with your conclusions. I'm a Mac user who dearly loves his Magic Touchpad. I never even use a mouse on my Mac anymore, and the desk space for the trackpad is actually smaller than most mousepads are. I replaced my Apple keyboard a few years ago with a Reddragon keyboard with real clicky keys that just feel better to type on. And now I'm glad I chose my Bose QC-45s. I didn't even consider the AirPods Max because of their cost. I did try and return a pair of Sennheiser Momentum 3 headphones before deciding on the QC-45s. Like you and the AirPods Max, I did prefer the sound quality of the Sennheisers, but their bluetooth just would not stay connected to either of my HP Windows laptop or my M1 Mac Mini. Worked great on my iPhone, but not my computers. Unlike your QC-35s, the QC-45s don't seem to have a medium noise cancelling mode available on the button. It's either on or off.
I use the Magic Mouse on my iPad and Mac laptop. Can’t wait to get the trackpad and keyboard to go with it. Also really hope I can get the AirPods Max. I love Apple accessories 😁
I really like the way you review tech. I'm a PC guy but had tons of Apple product in my past. They are always really well built but I always felt they cost way too much for what they offer
About trackpad - if you are not a 100% right hand user, having trackpad on the left of the keyboard and mouse on the right might be a good solution. It needs some practise to get used to, but when you do, it’s a blast. Game on!
i used the QC35 when flying offshore in a helicopter for years, the noisecancelation could take 70 % of the noise. But the apple headphones are far better overall, but they are not good for travel.
I've had the Logitech keyboard for almost 2 months and had charged it once. I use it every day for long periods of times for work. In my opinion the best keyboard, I use a MacBook Pro as well as a Windows laptop and some times had to switch between them. I also have the the Logitech MX Master 3, and I was surprised with how well it works with the MacBook, it supports all gestures.
I find it too easy to accidentally go back with the Magic Mouse. The keyboard works great for me. I have the very first Magic Trackpad Apple produced; expect I would be very happy with the latest.
I use Synergy software to share my mac keyboard and trackpad across from Mac to Windows. That way it feels like one big dashboard. No need to switch, just move the cursor across. Still get the Ctrl/Cmd switching wrong sometimes, but that I can live with.
If the MX keys had TouchID it would be perfect, they have a new mechanical version with similar switches to the G915 which is amazing BTW. I’m using the black Apple over my MX keys simply because of TouchID. After using it a bit I have found I actually type faster on the Apple keyboard. Hate the Apple mouse, using MX Master three but love the Apple trackpad, ever liked them until I got a MacBook Pro and now hate not having one on my gaming PC. Great Review, very honest IMHO!
Thanks, I’ve never liked a track pad on laptops, so never tried to use one on my Mac Desktop. Perhaps I will give it a shot! Cheers
I’m trying to get better at commenting and liking videos I find truly helpful. Good job man!
The Apple headphones look more balanced than the Bose on your head, to me at least🙃 And the sound is certainly great. It is a pity about the usage for you in wind.
And the complaints about using ANC while riding a bike - I think that’s dangerous (independent of it being Apple or Bose or …)
Bose is not a producer of high end audio… it’s akin to Sony… they make marketable, feature-rich products, but the core feature is left lacking… e.g. the audio response in Bose is utter crap…
@@mortenthorpe Eh. Sony makes some very high end audio equipment.
@@imhaydenmelrose not for the common consumer… they have a professional line, but you won’t find that anywhere in the consumer space
@@mortenthorpe Sure, but high end audio isn't associated with the "consumer space" in my mind. Just depends on who you are I guess.
I think u should have tried the Magic Mouse way longer before giving a verdict. I also bought a Magic Mouse as well as an MX Master 3. I pretty much used them simultaneously for a time, till at some point I started using the Magic Mouse more and more over the MX, the reason for it is the same u got for the touch pad, setting up gestures for the mouse to go back and forth on pages, moving thru desktop by a swipe and very natural feeling scrolls thru pages. It feels amazing using my softwares with it. So yeah, my MX Master 3 started collecting dust because of that now.
For your headphones test with your friends, I'd suggest having them try them while they're blindfolded.
Why would your friends opinion matter? He should doing the test himself, everybody’s hearing is different.
I now you've likely figured this out by now but, you don't cup the Magic Mouse.. you lay your hand on it flat so the tips of your pointer and middle rest on the left and (if enabled) right click rather than cupping it as per traditional mouse standards. feels a lot better to me than cupping a mouse and leaves me with less finger cramping after extensive use.
I love the mouse and like the hidden charge port, makes it look sleek. Just charge once in a blue moon when your not using computer, never been a problem.
For the keyboard it would be nice if it was a bit more tilted. But overallI think it's pretty awesome. Really like the texture of the keys and the touch id is the most useful feature on a keyboard Ive seen in maybe ever. Not having to enter your password at all and just using that is so good.
I think u should get black Trackpad is similar colour to ur keyboard
I use the trackpad with my left hand (on left side of computer) and the mouse with the right hand. It makes me more productive and allows my right hand to rest. Takes a little getting used to but once you do there is no going back.
I second this! Though I don't use a mouse, I have the wacom tablet on the right 😁
In regards to the lack of space for the trackpad on the desk, I've seen people position it to the left of their keyboard. The other possibility is to use a smaller keyboard like the MX keys mini.
I, too, stopped using magic mouse and bought a Logi M590, easy to move, easy to switch between devices, sits well inside my palm... so better control, and its battery lasts forever. Same way, I am using Logi k380 keyboard, small and sound less can connect to 3 other devices simultaneously. My iPad, MacBook Pro 16, and Dell Alienware gaming Pc are working with this setup flawlessly.
I agree, the headphones "look" really silly when wearing them. Agree with all your other conclusions as well and I have been 100% Apple for over 30 years.
I do NOT understand this concern over "looks" -- really... who cares what they look like? Wait till you're over 50 and learn to not care what others think. :)
So you agree with all the negative aspects but you still keep buying all those products? 🤔
I found on my AirPods pro that if you restart the device their paired to and forget the device in settings then repair them it fixes the sputtering problem
Definitely you should pay extra to match the colors 👌🏼✌🏼
I have been using a Magic Mouse for years and I love it. To me with a large (glove size) hand it feels just right. The earlier ones used two AA batteries. The current model does charge underneath, just charge when not using it. System preferences under "Mouse" shows you the charge level. The charge lasts for many hours and there is a switch to turn off when not using for awhile.
Welcome to the Apple ecosystem. We’ve been expecting you. 🤝
For track pad + mouse combo, you can use track pad on off hand side. It’s annoying at first, but if you’re just using for gestures and web browsing you get used to it after a couple days and you don’t have to futz with its position on your desk anymore.
I enjoy your Mac reviews almost more than your photography videos 😂 Also I think that Apple listened to your critique of the donglebook pro back then, that’s why they brought back the ports in the new MBP.
He’s a paid shill
I’ll take credit for that ;)
@@tf2368 I wish
@@tf2368 Dang, salty much
Magic Trackpad always sits next my my Logitech MX keys keyboard, along with a silent mouse, The gestures are super helpful to me as a music producer and wannabe video editor. Scrubbing through the timeline is a breeze, especially in my DAW. Logitech Keys is much better for the reasons you pointed out. If the Magic Mouse wasn't so darn clicky loud, I'd use it everyday. Now it just sits in my drawer. I prefer a silent mouse because I'm super sensitive to sounds. I'm completely Mac for everything, except for my gaming PC that I rarely even turn on. I only game maybe once or twice per month.
I laugh at people who make fun of the Magic Mouse's inability to charge while being used; the design is nearly perfect. I use my iMac 8-10 hrs per day and the mouse will last about 2 - 3 months between charges. And a 10 minute charge will give you days worth of usage if you forget. So I hear people like Linus Tech Tips make fun of the mouse for this and yet he charges his phone every single night but can't charge the mouse a few times a year. Ridiculous!
I also find the ergonomics of the magic mouse to be much better than the logitech mx mice. I also much prefer the ergonomics of the magic keyboard - the standard size - because it has no numpad so the ergonomics for my mousing hand is way better and no issues with carpal tunnel like with a huge keyboard with a numpad.
Also, I built PCs for a decade and always had the best Logiech MX mouse and MS keyboards. They always started to look worn and had battery issues after about a year of use then they needed to be replaced. My magic keyboard and mouse both look brand new and have the same battery life now as they did new... and they are 6 years old! I will NEVER use a crappy Logitech MX mouse again (again, I used many of them).
It is still the least functional place to put the charge port. So why did the put it there?? The critic towards the port is spot on! :)
Right!! Well said. I also prefer the ergonomics of the magic mouse now. I used to jump on the hate train but when I started using it, I fell in love with it (lol i sound like such an apple fanboy BUT the magic mouse is underrated)
The mouse feels more natural on my hands (and I have big hands). Since the mouse has a slim profile, my hands can rest on the table and I find it smoother to lift up my right hand to switch to the magic keyboard as they are equally levelled. I sometimes forget that I’m operating a mouse? Which is really magical.
Other mouses feels like I’m holding onto them and getting my hands off them needs me to fully lift my hands. A lot of mouse curves just feels unnatural to me and the magic mouse is kinda a one-size-fits-all solution. I only charge my mouse once every 3-6 months? And I never turn it off ever.
Plus I love that the mouse has no charging port at the front. It’s not necessary since the battery health is amazing and it raises up the mouse, which defeats the purpose of its slim profile. Plus I think it looks ugly.
Latency is also not an issue for me as I mostly do 3D work and light gaming (e.g. minecraft) but if you are a professional gamer, wired all the wayy.
Lastly, I recommend a trackpad + MM combo. It’s really useful for video editing imo
@@henriks5008 Least functional? How so? You don't need the mouse to function when charging. You charge it a few times a year and get a week's worth of charge out of 10 minutes of use. There is literally NO reason to charge it when you use it. None.
People who complain you can't use this when charging is like complaining you can't drive your car when you fill it up with gasoline (or use your Tesla when you charge it). It's asinine. Actually, the same people who don't mind spending 5 minutes filling up their car every other day, or charging their car every single night, complain they have to charge their mouse every 3 months for an hour at night when they sleep. LOL. Idiotic.
@@Kai-ow4ek Agreed Kai! Yes, I use my computer for work and play, so 8-10 hours every single day. My mouse is 6 years old and still lasts 3 months between charges and looks brand new. Not a scratch. It's made of glass and aluminum, not cheap plastic and rubber like logitch MX mice. I play games quite a bit (Dying Light, Tomb Raider, and other AAA titles) on my iMac and no issues with latency at all. And it never loses connection. And I NEVER turn it off. It's just so slick to use and I came from a PC where I used the best MX mice you could buy (and they broke every 8-12 months). The ability to scroll timelines in Davinci Resolve (or Final Cut) or move around an image in all directions by sliding your finger on the magic mouse is a game change for speed for me. Plus it is silent compared to the noisy wheel and buttons on a logitech mouse.
Why would anybody want to use a mouse when it is plugged in? Makes no sense! Charge it once every season and you are gold! I mean, you can't drive your car when you fill it with gas, or drive your Tesla when you charge it, and you have to do both of those FAR more often (nightly with a Tesla vs a few times a year with a magic mouse).
@@77dris plus you shouldn’t keep your mouse charging while you are using it as it deteriorates the battery life faster. A good toilet break to charge your mouse would last you a day, so you can get back to work quickly.
It’s nice to see people be more interested in audio quality , most people will just get the cheapest headphones or speakers and never see what music can be for them.
agree! The Max have shown me music like I've never heard before. And i'm coming from the Bose QC3
Your journey has been incredibly annoying, funny, and satisfying all at the same time so far.
Really enjoying watching you waln through the apple garden 👏🏻👏🏻
I went all in on the track pad two years ago and haven’t touched a mouse since. Also, take those headphones on a plane and they will change your life. Finally, to edit with them you have to use the Apple connection wire. Even if you have a strong connection there’s a latency issue.
Does the trackpad work with the iPen?
I stopped using a mouse a few years ago when I got my 2017 iMac and bought a trackpad instead, best purchase ever! I always had a difficult time with the ergonomics of popular mice and found the Logitec mouse with the ball on the side helped with the hand pain,.. until I started using the trackpad, night and day difference, never had any pain in my hand since, worth every cent!
The longevity of Apple products
is the one thing you can’t experience yet.
They last for years!!
I still have a accessories and Macs from 2009! From Apple routers, Mac Pro, input devices etc
MKBHD uses the trackpad on the left side of the keyboard and an MX Master on the right. Good way to make both work.
number 1 reason for me to still use the Apple Mouse: diagonal scrolling in photoshop! this saves so much time when you're zoomed in deep on a 100MP image for dust removal. Just like the old Apple Mouse with a scroll-BALL instead of a WHEEL, that was such a genius idea. Yes the Logi Mouse can also scroll horizontally, but having to alternate between that and vertical movement to pinpoint where you actually wanna go is really annoying to me in my workflow. the ergonomics of the apple mouse indeed suck big time. Also if you interested in the mouse get the version 1, it runs on AA batteries, rechargable ones that is in my case. ;)
Edit: Biggest fail on Apple's side for me has always been the non-backlit external keyboard, I mean the damn thing has a fingerprint reader built in. xD
They were one of the firsts to implement that with laptops, many other manufacturers by now have everything glowing in RGB like crazy, yet Apple wants you to pay for a plastic slab that you cant even see properly in the dark, not to mention the disgusting ergonomics on those "thin" keyboards. Rather get a Keychron and you'll love it.
Same, I can do so much more with the magic mouse than I could with all the Logitech MX mice I used over the years. Plus it lasts forever (as does the battery) while the logitech mx mice were cheaply built and would need replacing almost yearly for me (buttons/wheel would act up, battery would lose charge, and rubber would wear away).
I don't use the apple mouse anymore due to ergonomics, but boy do I miss the Amazing scrolling action. Why can't Anyone else do this??
@@WesPerry I have been thinking this ever since I bought my Magic Mouse over 10years ago, they should've kept the old bulky size but make it touch. :D
Small note, huge recommend to get the TKL keyboard apple sells if you are limited on desk space. It's much easier to quickly jump between the trackpad and keyboard and the mouse doesn't feel so far away on the right that way. The TKL keyboard and trackpad is only a small bit longer than just the regular keyboard
The bra case 😂😂😂. Apple design
I use all of these accessories daily. The air pods max, the keyboard and trackpad are awesome! The best tech you can have
I had a bit of the opposite experience lol. I've been using custom PC desktops for years and I wouldn't give it up. Performance and customizability is still superior there for the money. However, I thought that Apple always had the best bang for buck in laptops when you take into account quality, and now especially those M chips performance in small devices. But, I found a PC laptop for hundreds less than a Macbook air with the same performance in applications I use, more features, more ports, same build quality and I still am much faster in W10/11. What I've always hated about Apple, even when I loved them, is they think they know best. I know best. That 13 inch Macbook Pro and the Macbook Air. They need an SD card slot. But wait, Apple thinks people that use light affordable computers don't need it and want to use dongles. Do they provide another option? Nope. In PC land, there is always another option.
Apple Macbook Pro w/ Logitech MX Keys and MX Master will forever be my go to! The only Apple peripheral I would ever consider is the magic trackpad.
I love how he is embracing the apple ecosystem. It's is inevitable
The only ideal use I've found for the magic mouse is with iPads - the cursor along with touch pad works primo
That’s what I use my Magic Mouse for. It’s great paired with the iPad.
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It's in System Preferences and it's called Tap To Click. Most of the gestures aren't enabled for the Magic Mouse. Yes, one does have to grip it by the sides because the top is touch sensitive.
This is why I'm a Magic Trackpad person. The gestures make life so much better and trackpads are superior ti mice in all ways.
I use the Logitech MX Master 3 on the right of the keyboard as I’m right handed and use the Apple trackpad on the left side of the keyboard with my left hand. Once you get used to it, you become way more productive navigating though windows, software etc way faster.
The Magic Mouse is OUTSTANDING in my Production Environment. They have a trackpad on them. With Parallels there are a myriad of capabilities. I control 37 Servers as an automation specialist with ease. Example: double tap with two fingers and in the blink of an eye I can see real-time previews of what is happening on all of them and with a single click, move between them. Great for seeing and addressing error dialogs, etc. There are a bunch of other things like that. The charger thing however is something we all laugh about. Also just swipe left and right to go back and forth between Mac and Windows... if it's not working, it's Parallel's fault. It works by default. Check your Parallels' configuration.
Yea I agree, the charging port at the bottom of the mouse was a bonehead move by Apple. BUT, it lasts so long and charges so fast it makes it a second thought for me.
I’m new to using the trackpad. Bought it for my wife three years ago. She never used it so I just started. Man, the feel and gestures are phenomenal. I only use the magic mouse for editing photos now.
Regarding the headphones, I’m wondering if you have some kind of Bluetooth interference. I’ve never had a connection issue with my 🎧. I’ve had them for a year now and I use them at least 4 hours per day between my MBP and iPhone.
I too returned the Max. The headband kept pulling the stubbles on my head and I was also getting headaches.
Thank you!! I’m considering making the leap and your reviews are very helpful.
When you do the sound test for the headphones make sure to listen to a variety of audio. It's quite surprising just how much certain headphones are better with certain genres of music or for podcasts etc. I would say the Apple headphones have been balanced for the statistically most listened to audio like pop and podcasts.
Also, not sure what brands you are testing but I hope you are including Sennheiser and Beyerdynamic. I am still on their wired generation, and have Jabra Elite for my wireless in-ear. I've been extremely happy with all these. I think these brands strike a great balance between professional-use and personal-use level of audio while being price friendly. I'm looking for a wireless pair of cans so very keen to see your results mate.
From the brief look I got from your video, the headphones you are using to compare against the AirPods Max are not the best for audio quality. Phones from Sennheiser, Beyer, or Focal would be a better comparison, though they may cost more and might be wired. Wireless phones are great for convenience.
If you try and hold the Magic Mouse like most other mice it’ll feel small but if you lay your hand along, it’s feels great.
track pad on the left. mouse on the right. might be an extra learning curve but is so worth the features and comfort
Mouse on the right, trackpad on the left. I use it only for gestures and it's a great combo with the MX3. 👍🏻
TouchID and the ultra thin design is the only reason I use me Magic Keyboard. For CAD I use the MX 3 mouse because of the missing middle button and the precise scrolling. For everything thing else, the Magic Mouse with its Touch gestures is the most comfort use.
I totally agree with you about your favorite mouse... A while ago I purchased a 3DConnexion Cadmouse Pro, because I wanted a decent professional mouse - with the middle mouse button as a nice added feature.. turns out the scrollwheel of that mouse just s*cks. I replaced it with the Logitech Master MX 3S and boy, I fell in love with that scroll wheel !
2 tips for the trackpad… 1. You can lay it in the middle in front of your keyboard and keep your mouse in the same position. 2. Connect it to an apple keyboard with the Twelve South’s magic wand. This will also make you able to use it in the couch with a pc that’s connected to your tv.
Re the Apple Keyboard: I still use an old school wired Apple Keyboard (with numeric keypad) - the kind that came with the iMacs starting from around 2011. No bells and whistles like Touch ID, but underneath it has a raised bar at the back which props it up at exactly the angle you want for typing. I'm probably going to hang onto this keyboard as long as it still works, even without Touch ID it's not such a big deal because you can always use that button directly on the MacBook Pro itself.
Re the Magic Mouse: I guess I'm one of the rare people who actually really love it. As a professional user of Logic Pro, once you get used to being able to scroll up-down left-right (as opposed to just a scroll wheel with one axis), there's no going back. It.makes flying around your workspace and the interfaces a breeze. The other gestures are really useful just getting around the OS in general too. I also have very big hands, but this has never been an issue for me, in fact whenever I find myself working on someone else's setup with some kind of pro Logitech mouse or whatever, they always feel really clumsy and chunky to me now. And that's not because I never used them - way back when the original G4 PowerMac came with those terrible hockey puck mice, the first thing you would do is throw it in a drawer and go buy a fancy Logitech one instead. But since the Magic Mouse came along I haven't felt any burning need to look for alternatives - especially given how useful and intuitive the x-y axis scrolling on the touch surface becomes once you're used to it.
Great video. I would absolutely have to buy the black version of the touchpad to match my MX Keys. On the topic of noisy clicks I have the Logitech M590 which is very quiet, although it takes (rechargeable) AA batteries and I would not get this exact model again for that reason. The relative silence however is wonderful, and switching of both control devices is perfect as my desk area is set up with both MacBook Pro and Surface Laptop.
Trackpad to the left of the keyboard and mouse to the right. That combined with the mx Master without num keys is perfect for me.
Track pad color: "Ebony and Ivory live together in perfect harmony." Interesting video! The followup on the headphones should be kool. I almost bought a pair but not even sure I can hear well enough to tell the difference!
There's plenty of videos like this. But this is very refreshing and kinda different. I like it. Thank you for this information.
The Logitech MX Keys for Mac is my preferred keyboard. Along with the Logi MX Master 3 mouse they make a great combo. Don't miss the Touch ID since I use an Apple Watch to unlock and authenticate.
I use the MX master and trackpad in different hands. Put the trackpad in your non dominant hand for an easy way to scrub through timelines and zoom in etc.
Ok I really want to chime in here… As a life long Apple user I’m absolutely floored by these videos! So cool to see some OPEN MINDED THINKING HERE!
I love most apple products. I use the airpods max every day. Be better with an actual case, on/off switch and better battery but I love it and it’s better than everything else I’ve use.
I agree the Apple keyboards are a bit flexy, although as a desk accessory, they’ve obviously banked on the desk itself supporting the keyboard, and I have a set of original keyboard/mouse in this style that STILL function and look practically brand new many years later. Bonus: the OG mouse just takes two AA batteries, no helpless turtle charging.
I have the MX Keys and MX Master 3 Mouse. Both are great. I use it with my Windows and Mac mini, the Flow feature on the mouse is great and it easly goes from the Mac to the Windows computers almost like it is one computer. I do have the Apple Track pad and I love it too. Great Video!
Better Touch Tools is so worth for trackpad (external or macbook). Crazy customizations I use everyday
Great reviews. I got the MX Keys keyboard about a month ago, and I love everything about it.
I rarely subscribe to channels, but you are something else man... your videos are so good and I've only watched two!
Welcome to the channel...you have a lot of catching up to do! -P