Chrome tabs solution: It is called application expose, when using more than one chrome window, just swipe 4 fingers down on your MacBook touchpad, then you have only chrome windows shown on screen and every one is labeled below to easy navigate through them. It should work with many screens and desktops throughout macOS. You can assign button on your mouse to do this and also active corner of your monitor with mission control settings. Hope this helps, You can delete this comment after reading, I wanted your attention so I replied here.
Hi Lee, regarding your point at 8:50, perhaps I can help with a suggestion. If you go to System Preferences, and then Mission Control and select "Group windows by application," it will label the windows with their application logo/icon and make it easier to identify which window belongs to which application. Nonetheless, you have made valid points.
@@jakubfurtak563 Apple products "just work"... except in fact you must tweak them and be much more a geek expert than using Windows and Android if you want to do more than just my grand mother
@@FStoppers If you right click the application icon in the dock, it shows all your open windows in that application. The app expose discussed above is the other solution.
Haha, this hits home. Premier is a Giant pile, They keep adding things but cannot fix the damn random crashes. I have used it on windows and MacOS and crashes just as much on both.
I agree with almost everything you said. However, when it comes to Adobe performance, as a designer I can tell Adobe makes the worst softwares in terms of size and optimisation so I wouldn't just blame the computer. Love this series though!
@@ooblagon6830 they should just make their software like $700 for students. Even tho that’s extremely pricy. I would rather do that than sale my body for adobe suit
@@cameronmcgehee You miscalculated my friend it's $255 for 8 months. 8 Months times 30$ is around $255 give or take tax. 4 Yearly plans would be 48 months * 29.99 equaling 1,439.52.
This is an excellent series. But it seems really clear - you should stick with Windows. First, because you don’t edit with Resolve or Final Cut. Second, because you don’t like MacOS. It seems like you’re encountering the same thing as people who try to make iPad their only computer - they try to recreate the experience they’re accustomed to on the new device/software. But if you’re open to switch, the idea is to do things differently, not imitate the old way in the new system.
Had the same thought. It's like becoming a vegetarian, and making a video complaining how difficult is it to recreate exactly the same food that you are used to cooking. Or trying to play rugby the same way as football :-) It will not work and you will be frustrated. I'm quite sure that Mac users would have a very similar experience trying to recreate workflow on windows.
@@khoifoto it’s really not clickbait. You can clearly see the guy on the video was actually forced to do this and really did not want or feel like adapting his workflow to another way of working, constantly trying to replicate the experience just with Command keys instead of Control, lol
I disagree with both of you. An OS should strive to improve with every iterration. MacOS in this sense hasn't advanced to the required level. I've been running MacOS on my work laptops and Windows + Linux on my home desktops for years and years. Out of 3 options only Linux handles this correctly. Multitasking is something that is one of the focus points of business oriented machines such as MacBooks and iMacs. And that is one point where MacOS is the weakest. Its UI is horribly clunky and slows down any real power user extremely. What is the solution? Have both layouts ( 1 - TopBar + Dock or 2 - Taskbar ) as a selectable option for a user to choose. That is something even some Linux distros (I think Zorin OS is the best example) gave as an option to their users. But Apple and Microsoft are stuck in their ways and won't budge, because that is something that every big company does. They make a decision and even if it is the worst decision they ever made, they won't back down on it, because it will make them look weak. So stop with this "it's the way it is and that's the best" nonsense, allow users to have a choice and be done with it. Current system is shit.
I laughed so hard my stomach hurt! I went through similar and a bunch of other issues with my M1 McBook Air... In the end I came to the same conclusion as you. I work on a Windows PC and when I travel I use a Mac. Fortunately or unfortunately, I don't travel often. Thank you for this video :)
Yep, that's the best case scenario. Traveling with a macbook is amazing because of the battery life. For daily work, hell no, and anyone who says they do use a mac daily don't really do any actual work because as we all know video editing is NOT real work
2:20 - Drag and drop onto windows brought up by hovering over Dock icons: The secret is to wait until the blue highlight around the entire Premiere window disappears, then drop the item. If there were two Premiere windows it would be much more obvious what is happening. It’s subtle when there is only one window, but if you continue hovering for a couple more seconds over the Premiere window you should see it expand slightly larger and it will no longer have a blue border around the entire window. In other words you’re dropping the file at the stage when the Finder is asking you which window to bring into focus as the drop target. It literally just takes about two additional seconds of hovering. I know, it’s confusing because there is only one window so the choice should be obvious. But the drop simply won’t work until you let it “select” the window.
@@hanes2 I honest do not understand why he is still not using expose after 3 weeks. Dock is not for switching between open instances of apps like Windows task bar is...
For the issue with dragging and dropping into Premier: I noticed the first time that the Premier window was still highlighted (had a blue halo). This means you’re in window selection mode. Wait a little longer and it will “settle” and the halo will go away. Then you’ll be able to drop it. You can also command-tab to Premier while you have files grabbed with a mouse cursor and just drop them in. Not seeing these in the first couple dozen comments, so hoping it they get through and are helpful.
To speed up the process you can also press spacebar instead of waiting. Drag the file to the app icon > press spacebar (skipping the pause) > when the correct window is highlighted, press spacebar again. With that said, command-tabbing will in most cases be the faster solution.
Years of frustration tolerance was built up from using Windows for decades :D Believe me, I use both every week, almost every day, and each has strengths and weaknesses, but Windows annoys me far more.
@@MorningNapalm How does Windows annoy you? By not playing the first two seconds of audio after being silent for 8 seconds on Bluetooth or jack, easily testable using the volume slider?
@@CTimmerman LOL, WHAT? Hahahahaha. That came out of the blue. No, Windows annoys me by being deliberately different and poorly compatible with every other O/S, by being generally of poor quality, by maintaining 17 layers of old, deprecated APIs, by giving us only a 2-pixel border to resize windows with, even on 4k monitors with multiple-thousand DPI mice, and on and on and on and on and on. It is just a steaming pile, which I trust only for playing games on. This is not to say that other O/Ss are perfect, but Windows is, was and will likely always be on the bottom of the pile, by some margin.
@@MorningNapalm Even though my Windows 10 weather info is in F instead of the C it's set to, it didn't require the command line after updating like my Ubuntu the past years and my colleague's MacOS today. Windows has generations of options whereas MacOS requires third party programs and GNU keeps reinventing the wheel. Still, Windows is very slow at accessing file, but Ubuntu also missed audio when waking the audio jack after idling for seconds. At least Windows just works and doesn't cover notification icons with random menu entries. Also, MacOS is the intentionally different one; it's even Apple's slogan. GNU hobbyists just like to copy MacOS at the moment.
I think the struggle you have with MacOS is that most Windows users go into it the with the same preconceptions that all design elements or methods for completing tasks that you use in Windows is universal for all GUI OSes. You would face the same issues going into KDE or Gnome (in the case of Linux). Each GUI has different rules and features that influence the workflow. Sometimes I feel Windows users have the preconception that the Windows approach is the "standard" but in fact all operating systems approach user interactions differently and have their own hang ups. I generally approach any new operating system with the goal of learning how it works not how it mimics another OS.
What is user friendly then? As a Windows user, I'm totally okay that close button appear at left corner instead of right. But it is very confusing when I want to find an application that I just minimized. I need to guess and find it from a dock. iOS definitely is more user friendly than macOS.
Absolutely true. I have used only Mac OS since 2005 and just this year had to use Windows for work for the first time. Everything about window management on Windows annoys me because to me it’s “wrong”. In reality it just doesn’t match my “standard” and some re-learning is required.
About the "virtual desktops" you said it doesn't make sense when you have multiple real monitors... but Lee, when you have mutliple monitors, mission control doesn't bring all windows to one monitor making all thumbnails all super small like you said. It does that thumbnail thing to each individual monitor and with the windows that are in each corresponding monitor only. Unless, I'm not understanding what you're complaining about regarding mission control and multiple monitors. I agree that there are some things that Windows does much better and vice versa. I am not a fanboy and there are advantages to both. I own Mac laptops and custom builtmy own PC. I have a windows based storage server. but it seems like you're frustrating yourself by trying to make Mac OS look and behave 100% like Windows does.
Agreed, I have 3 displays for my workflow, and love mission control with multiple desktops, to quickly switch apps. Have you tried system preferences notifications to get the alerts to auto disappear, or to not display? Also I agree you are trying to Mac macOS work like windows and that is going to be super frustrating. One of the thing macOS expects is that you will use gestures, either on a track pad or touch enabled mouse. Gestures speed up window switching, for example, I generally have five or so desktops on each of my 3 screens. I hover over a screen and and two finger swipe left or right tow switch desktops, or swipe up to see all desktops and jump to the one I want. It’s super quick but completely different than what I have to do on windows. One of the reason you might be getting freezing or other menu issues might be conflicts between all the apps that have been installed to make it work like windows. I’d uninstall some of them to see if the issues go away, just in case. System preferences auto updates, change to ask before updating. Hit me up if you have questions I might be able to help without the frustration of dealing with the internet.
“there are things that windows does better”…well not window handling, Windows is absolute trash when it comes to switching between windows or apps, dragging things between apps, opening files in apps etc. its absolutely horrible, and no one ever can convince me its not, im raging everyday when i stop working on my work macbook and go to my desktop windows pc for my freelance work.
@@x340x could that be anything to do with specification and age of the Windows PC and space on drives? Windows does have a habit of writing large temp files, as do most apps. You'd be shocked at the number of PC (and Mac!) users who leave their Photoshop cache file on the boot drive (which the OS is writing to all the time), run out of space and then wonder why Photoshop isn't responding! Despite the clarity given in the manual on the importance of a RAID 0 or 10 internal second drive for cache and even in Photoshop's options!
A bit late with the conversation but as a dev who regularly switches between Mac and PC. I practiced using gestures on touchpad. I also set up hot corners. It made my life easier. FYI, those 3rd party apps that make your MacBook feel like Windows desktop chugs too much resources which will eventually beat up your device. These apps only prey on us, users that transitioned from PC. Either deal with what Apple gave you (and practice) or just go back to PC.
Tough decisions. Pros of Macbooks: - Apple ecosystem coordination. - Fast without heating due to M1 CPU - Great for iPhone app development. - Great for Java, Javascript, and Adobe development. - Great sound system for DJs. - Great image display. - 1080p camera for interviews or team meetings. Pros for PCs: - Usually less expensive. - Easier to customize. - More suited for logical minded people (Windows 7 and 10). - Easy use of Windows office apps - Easy for Powershell, Android, and .Net programmers. - Easy to use for Power BI graphs 📊. - Easy to use for Azure or GCP cloud services.
I am definitely a Mac fanboy (I admit it), and when I was issued a Windows laptop by my school, I have found myself swiping with three fingers left and right to change between desktops/windows, and it doesn’t work. I have to manually click the task view and choose the desktop I want to view.
@@SylveonMujigaeOfficial First of all, desktops and windows are two different things, at least in Windows world. Second of all, three fingers are for swiping through windows. four fingers to swipe through desktops, if you've opened multiple desktops.
Lee.. like you I’m a long term windows “power” user. My ex (a high level programmer with IBM, is a Mac fan, despite (because of) her work predominantly on windows machines. Sharing this background so the following comes to you with perspective…. My ex got me working on Mac back in 2009. Like you I hated it for all the reasons you’ve note. HOWEVER…. slowly, over time I began gravitating to Mac for certain activities (I have an iMac on my desk, opposite my multi-monitor PC set up). Put simply, windows is as flaky with multi-monitor dongle set up (I run 4 connected direct to graphics card, plus 2 by USB to HDMI dongles). Anyway… here’s my take-away… as I’ve become used to the Mac was of doing things I now see tons of things I hate in Windows. Basically the strengths of one system make the flaws of the other insanely apparent, so much so that I now kinda hate both. And I now treat my computer systems like my camera systems (I use Canon for event, Fuji for lifestyle and Sony for video). Use Mac more and focus on its strengths and I think you’ll come to similar confusions. Whether you want to introduce that complexity at the cost of your leaning curve is, we’ll, up to you. For me the choice is Mac for personal and creative; windows for work and finance. Hope this helps you.
I’ve used both systems a lot, I’ve owned Mac systems on and off and HEAVILY used Bootcamp on them because of specific software and some games. I agree with you, I’ve also come to hate both, they both have infuriating arbitrary limitations or unfixed bugs that have been there for years, but clearly both have their strengths. With windows it usually comes with compatibility, customisability, everything we already know. And Mac is just a more streamlined, stable user experience (until it’s not-good luck troubleshooting! But it’s still worth it imo, there’s nothing quite like Mac OS)
Absolutely right both systems have issues and good things, Im an Mac user for graphic design and Photography and is very nice for this area but some other things is better Windows side, as you are a Windows heavy user there are some small things that you mentioned that are very easy to solved but the point is you are new to the system so you need to know more about it like the sleep monitor thing you can download Caffeine software and stop sleeping the Macbook permanently, and changing apps with cmd tab and lots of shortcuts but just for Mac is like a Mac user coming to Windows also the same thing.
I think this is basically my story. I got a Mac for work. Hated it for a year. About 2 years after getting it (and having to give it up after a year of having - because I moved positions), I bought my own personal MBP. I have a nice Windows PC that I play games on - but if I want to do almost anything else, I grab my MBP. I even sold my old MBP for a new M1 Max one (probably a stupid waste of money... but sometimes I do things I shouldn't *shrugs*)
@@haberdasherrykr8886 Totally! Quirk of our personalities I guess. Sub-conclusion I came to is (1) ignorance is bliss, and (2) stick with what you know. Comparison = Frustration.
I"m not sure this is the right approach: learning a new OS trying to make it fit the way your old OS works. I understand the desire to move to a new OS without too much trouble (trying to do everything the same way) however in trying to do so you may miss out on some cool features. I liked your review in general because that is what is a natural impulse when moving to a new OS. thanks for sharing
I'm OS neutral and try to see the best in each platform...but to be honest macOS feel much more like old school 1990's Unix than something modern with "cool features". Windows and Linux has evolved over time at a much faster rate than macOS. It's like macOS went out of it's way not to adopt new features because Windows and Linux got there first.
I know this is an older video but, this reminds me of my transition to MacOS from windows. I am a power user and had used windows exclusively for a good 15 years, then work switched to Macs. I was a mess for about 6 month plus, I couldn't figure out how to do things I did everyday, and I was always finding a way to make my Mac look and work like windows. Eventually, I started to understand and become a Mac power user, when I stopped trying to do things the windows way. Now I am in the opposite camp, I sit at a windows machine trying to swipe my fingers in all directions trying to move windows around or flip screens or even just delete emails and get frustrated at the lack of what I would call quality of life gestures. If I had any advice it would try to go all in and not half way, the issues your having in each of these videos is pretty much just trying to do windows things on a Mac and not learning the Mac thing to do. I will say there is one thing I never let go of in my transition and that was the scroll direction of a mouse, I still just toggle that "natural" setting off. Keep it up, I enjoyed this little series.
I get exactly what you're saying!! I used to be a mac only user and now I'm hybrid between them and there's so many things where you just have to remember the operating systems are inherently different. Like right now I'm at the part in the video where he's frustrated by navigation between windows on the mac and I just want to grab him and be like DUDE! USE HOT CORNERS! USE GESTURES! USE MULTIPLE DESKTOPS YOU CAN SLIDE BETWEEN!! like the problems he's having could easily be solved with a hot corner to show mission control, a hot corner to show all open windows of a single app, and to learn about the command+tab feature and he'd be golden. But because Apple doesn't make those capabilities immediately obvious to a user who doesn't already know they exist he's stuck manually shuffling through all his apps and getting annoyed that it's not behaving like windowsos. When in reality it was never intended to function that way in the first place because it had other methods!
Even after just trying to get a good workflow going with an M1 Air I think finding the "Mac way" is the way to go. I was struggling with fullscreen apps until I realized that by "full screen" Apple really means "open this in a new desktop and fill it". What I'd really wanted to do was just to hide the dock and maximize the Window. A few settings changes later (and after installing Magnet and customizing some shortcuts) I was able to get things going the way I wanted.
@@stillmattwest The mouse gestures are part of the mac way. So there are a couple that I use all day. In system preferences > Trackpad under More Gestures... All of those. Four Finger swipe Up to see all windows, or four finger down to see all windows of only the one application, and four fingers left and right to switch desktops... Those are a must to learn and use. I just keep all windows open all the time and learn how to flip between then easier. Another big one that is hidden and absolutely amazing, is three finger move a window. This allows you to put your pointer on the main bar of a window and with three fingers touching the track pad move it around (replaces click and drag). This is found in System Preferences > Accessibility > Pointer Options (on the left) > Trackpad Options > Enable Dragging (three finger drag)... Amazing Option.
@@SoundMarsh I'm still trying to get used to them on the laptop (making progress!) but the real issue is when I'm plugged in to an external monitor and my laptop is closed in its dock. At that point, you need keyboard shortcuts.
I randomly stumbled on your video. I kind of enjoyed seeing this perspective again. I was actually like you. I was a huge Windows/PC fanboy for most of my early young adult life. One day I found myself buying a Macbook off of someone because it was a really good deal and I planned on flipping it. After I took it home, I figured I'd mess with it and explore what was to me at the time, the "Unknown". I was mainly a Mac hater because it wouldn't play my games, and I watched a lot of youtube that was very much anti Apple. But after getting to use the Macbook and getting to know it better.... I kind of liked it. It was different sure. And there was a lot to learn. But I really liked the machine. It did a lot of things well. After I sold it I realized I wanted another one. Possibly to keep. After a few Macbook/Macbook Pro flips I ended up with a 27in iMac as my work computer. Fast forward 10 years, I still have that same 2011 iMac 27in. It still works great. But I still have my monster gaming PC at home. After 12 years of running both Windows and MacOS machine and using them daily I have to say... I like them both for various reasons. I should note though that I do think you're going about this the wrong way. You're trying to do things a specific way that Windows does them, and then getting a bit upset when MacOS does them a different way. This is similar to owning a Ford Fusion for many years, then getting upset that the new BMW 5 series sedan you're driving has the A/C buttons in a different location than in the Fusion. You just need to take the time to figure out the quirks instead of relying on muscle memory. Anyway, this video just kind of brought me back to when I went through this for the first time. It's good content!
No, it’s similar to owning a Ford Fusion for many years, then getting upset that the new BMW 5 series sedan you’re driving does not have A/C buttons at all (AC turns on automatically just the way Tim Cook programmed it), lacks cruise control and has no ability to change tyres because they are welded to the car from the factory (for better “safety” and “integration”, of course). And the only way to change them is to replace your car or visit an Apple shop to replace it for 1/3 of the car’s initial price.
Well said! I've used both Macs and PCs simultaneously for most of my life and they both have their pros and cons, quirks, differences. I love and hate them for different reasons but you can't expect one to be like the other.
You need to go to mission control and uncheck displays have separate spaces. This eliminates the need to click the display before interacting with the window on that display in most cases. And great videos. Exactly my experience when switching to Mac after years of using and building PCs. I don’t regret the switch when I try to go back to windows.
@@FStoppers yeah, but as you mention with multiple screens, why Full Screen any app - expand to the full size of one screen like you talk about in an earlier video (option-click on green button) this will make the menu behaviour more consistent and obvious - only the active application will show in the menu bar. (although it will only then have the menubar on one of the screens - which may be annoying for some people as well) "Displays as different Spaces" is good if you only use a single screen, but I find inconsistencies when trying to use 2+ screens with spaces. I go way back as a Mac user - over 25 years - Making an app fullscreen didn't use to black out the 2nd screen, was really annoying when they started doing that (can't remember which version for sure - maybe around MacOS Lion in 2011) For sure one thing that I don't like. One more trick with multiple apps or windows open especially on multiple screens - you can "Command-Click" on inactive windows or buttons/controls to send the click or drag through to the background app without activating it. (you can drag windows to reposition them this way, as well as playing or pausing videos and more). You can also scroll background windows with the cursor over them using the trackpad (or scroll wheel). There used to be some 3rd party apps that would give a more Unix like behaviour of whatever the cursor is over, becomes the active app, not sure if they still are possible. Windows is "window centric" in UI philosophy, each window is a separate process. macOS is "Application centric" so the dock & menu bar shows the current active app, and the Window menu always shows a list of all open windows for that app. (or right-click/click & hold on the dock icon to also show a list of all open windows for that particular app). for MacOS you command-tab to switch between apps, and other shortcuts (usually command-`) to switch between windows within an app. There are advantages and disadvantages of both philosophies. Windows 10 showing only the active windows in the start bar on each screen is a huge improvement over earlier windows, something new I learned watching your videos. One advantage to the dock is once it is setup the way you want, the position of the icons remain the same (at least on the left side of the dock) so no hunting around through a bunch of icons in the bottom - I find myself in windows using alt-tab more than the start bar - although in MacOS I don't use the dock all that often - either command-tab or click on window. Check your System Preferences -> Trackpad -> More Gestures - you may find "App Expose" useful to be turned on if it isn't already. - This will show only the windows from the active app, instead of all apps. You don't mention it in this video, but Activity Monitor shows disk & network traffic speeds if you haven't seen that from any one else (There are some UI changes to make it more useful - View Menu -> Update Frequency to 1 second, and in the Disk & Network windows, change the graph to show Data instead of IO & Packets) - that is one area Windows improved was to be able to show the actual copy speeds of file copies (I think that was added in Vista). There are also 3rd party utilities like iStat Menus, and probably more (I used to use a utility called NetStatInDock early in MacOS X - but it was abandoned) Sorry this got kind of long.
The idea that displays have their separate spaces, and that this concept is a default behavior is very troubling to my windows mindset. Why on earth would a display have it's own space, and what is a space anyway? This makes no sense to a Windows user.
It's been interesting watching a windows user go through Mac, and I'm just want to say sometimes like you're trying to get Mac to do windows things that just don't make sense. Still great to see how differently people use each OS and even differently within a particular OS. At 11:56 when you are trying to send the timeline to export it didn't work because you didn't have the timeline selected in Premiere. This is not a window issue with Mac but just how Premiere works to tell it that you want to export a timeline. You can see in the video the Effect Controls panel is selected when you try to do the export and is indicated by the blue box around that panel. Switching between applications: Hold Command + Tab to switch between applications. Switching between windows in a an application: Hold Command + Tilde to switch between windows in same app. Switch between tabs in window: Hold Control + Tab. If you really want to use the dock to see what windows are open: Click and hold on app icon / Show All Windows. This will only show the windows of that application and show them on the respective screen that you have them on.
@@__Mr.White__ You must not have ever used it. Windows has a very similar feature, just a different keys. It's faster than moving a mouse to click on the application. But everyone has their own preferred methods. Sounds like you need to try somethings out before you say what's a good workflow and what's not.
@@brandonmenneke I already tried it. Just for 2 weeks to be honest. I couldn't longer stand it. As they guy in the video said, some things are just so mind blowingly stupid, that for some people it's not worth the hassle.
I’m enjoying this experiment. As a Mac user for about ten years I both love and hate the MacBook at the same time. You’re absolutely right when it comes to Adobe Premiere, in fact, it’s not just with Premiere, it’s with almost all of the Adobe lineup. I’ve come to the conclusion that Adobe is stuck in its old ways, and when presented with hardware that could help to make their software the best in class, they just fall short. Every. Single. Time. How can Apple’s Final Cut run so well when Adobe’s platform can’t? Adobe, in my opinion, just doesn’t have what it takes to write good code. I’ve experienced the same crashes as you. The whole system software grinds to a halt. It’s very, very rare that the system does this on its own, as it only seems to happen when I have Premiere or Lightroom open. They simply suck. Anyway, it’s come as no surprise to me that you’re experiencing poor performance with Premiere. They should be embarrassed to put out bad software time and time again. Please don’t confuse my views as defending the MacBook, I get as equally frustrated with some things but at the same time I love it for other reasons. Adobe is just the worst.
I loathe Adobe Premiere. As there is no way they optimized that for Macs... And their plugins are shit....I had to switch...Final Cut Pro....As the plugins work every time. And every 3rd party plugin pack I bought. They are optimized for use in Final Cut and they work perfect. I would add. Final Cut upgrades are free. You pay the $400.00 US once and that is it...Same for Logic Pro....None of this pay every year subscription shit. And try to install Adobe on a new PC. I dare you..They will make you walk on fire. To prove you're not boot legging it... I wonder if he even used the migration tool from Windows to Mac....It sure would have been faster... And the Terminal window on MAcs is so powerful. I suggest he learn to use it. As command line drive is the way to fix lots of issues. Without buying any 3rd party applications. As he paid to see his transfer speeds. It's Fking free. If you understand Unix\Linux terminal... As I been a Windows User for 35 years. As an IT engineer. I just been using a Mac Mini to learn the system 2 months ago. And it's a powerful machine. If you spend time learning new things everyday. As in the Time Machine auto backups were eating up huge chunks of storage. And everybody said buy Clean My Mac..I used the terminal window to delete those snap shots. Then unchecked Auto Backup in Time Machine. Problem solved.
@@WizzRacing Neither Clean My Mac nor Terminal is the right way to reduce the number of Time Machine snapshots. You should do that by changing Time Machine’s settings to make fewer snapshots in the first place, which can be done using the tmutil CLI. That being said, I wouldn’t do that. Time Machine uses APFS snapshots, which are basically designed to utilize any free space you have. They automatically get removed if more space is needed, which is why the OS will often fold that into “Free” space. Think of it like caching files in RAM: it technically means there is less free RAM, but anything that needs the extra memory will just kick out the files.
Been a Windows user for almost my entire work life, like a decade and a half. I am a tech nerd, computer science, I build my own PCs, I like to do DIY solutions to help my productivity routines on Windows, etc... When I switch to Mac, Like Lee, the beginning was a lot of frustration. But then I realized I was expecting Mac OS to work exactly like Windows. Then the switch became a *transition*, which at least for me lasted almost a month. Of course, there were plus and minuses. I do miss things that I got accustomed with Windows. But the things that I gained with the switch greatly outweigh those bits. I can honestly say I am more productive after the switch to Mac than I was with Windows. I can focus on things that matter more, and less on things that have nothing to do with my routine. Free OS updates? Not bad. All I can say is that the whole experience with the MacOS is an enabler.
I've been a Mac user for years but I also kept using a desktop Windows computer alongside my macbook pro. When I first bought a Mac I was amazed how much better than Windows was (at the time there was Windows Xp or Vista version which I hated so much). But time has passed and I think Mac OS progressed very little if not at all, while Windows improved dramatically. Now I still use a Mac because I love the overall experience, but Windows is way better in usability now.
There is definitely something true in your point of view. What I think is you're approch is wrong. Like when you learn another language you don't just translate word by word from your native language to the other but you need to change drastically your way of thinking and the structure of the sentence to have something that sounds "natural" and not google translate. My point is that, to get the best out of Mac OS you have to forget the way you are use to do things and learn the new ways. Making Mac os acting like windows will not work. Most of the things you are complaining are based on your habits with windows and the way you are used to work with that. My best advice would be embrace the Mac os system if you want to stick with it and change your habits, or just stick with Windows OS. P.S try keep pressing "command" and then press "TAB" multile times to swap between application windows. It's the easier way for me. You don't need to touch the mouse and the most recent app used are always the first.
This is such a mac response. I have used both. Windows for a couple of decades and Mac for the last 4 years or so. There are some things which are just harder on the Mac and they should adopt those features. And give people the ability to customise some specific things. Windows users know that some things suck on Windows but Mac users struggle to have that discussion. His feelings most windows users that have moved to macs will appreciate.
@@ogidy001 I'm a Mac and Windows user. I use Mac at home and windows at work. I constantly switch between the two and to get peace of mind you have to work differently when you work on each of them. My point is also valid in the opposite situation, Mac users that change to windows. My all point is that you cannot fight the OS logic. Of you try to make it work with your logic you lose. A better strategy is to understand the OS logic and get the best out of it.
There are things that MacOS cannot do, that there is no reason why it is not a thing yet, other than pure stubbornness. For example having preview windows on the dock icon. I can right click to see other open instances of the same app but if I don't remember the name of the exact window I want I left to guess, Windows has been doing this since Win7. Another thing that has been a thing since Win7 and is on linux is snapping windows. How is this not a thing? It really should not be that hard especially seeing that there are 3rd party apps that do it. Another thing is file transfer speeds, why, why is it not a thing? Make the default how it is now but add the option to view it there is literally no real reason no not have it.
@@cheddar07 We can do the same game of what is on Mac and why window cannot do that. Colour tag on finder. It's on Mac os since I can remember. I use it a lot to mark files I need to backup or transfer. Why window cannot do that? File Preview with space-bar. I use it 99% of the time instead of open any picture, audio or video player. It's the thing I miss most when I work on windows. I tried third party app and it kind of works but it's very lagging. On Mac it's instantaneous. There many things that window cannot do the same as Mac os and vice versa.
I daily drive macOS and love it. That said, I really appreciate you pointing out the problems you personally found. In particular, the issues with multiple monitors drives be bat-poop crazy. REALLY frustrating not being able to interact with an application on another monitor without first focusing something on that monitor. Hopefully, the truly fair public critiques will help make someone at Apple take notice. Thank you sir!
I haven't ever used Macs for a large enough time to face these problems, but some of these problems you mention are major head scratchers. A lot of these issues you point out are really valid and Apple should consider taking your feedback.
1. Mac is not a windows replacement. It does things differently. Get with it, or get out of it. 2. With all the add-on’s that you’ve installed, it makes sense it’s crashing all the time. I’ve used both, and I don’t see mine crash nearly as much.
Agreed. The add ons to make it behave like windows are likely causing it crash. Great to see all the annoyances. Some of your points Leigh are valid (file transfer speed ! That stunned me a decade ago, I made peace with it but you are right about that. Very likely the add ons are struggling with Monterey OS. Hang in there. Pye is right. Hopefully Adobe listen and make their software fly reliably on the M1
Thanks a lot for this series! Everyone else is talking about the battery, the screen, the price and other generic features aside performance which can easily be read from the product specification. But these kind of real-world usage scenarios and comparison which you have covered are rarely talked about. Such information is invaluable for making informed decisions on getting new tech or switching ecosystems. Well done on keeping your opinions objective and explaining the rationale. Thank you for going through with this and sharing your experiences!
It’s not really real world usage if the person has only been using the platform for a month. If they’re a Windows user for life it could hardly be described as unbiased (especially as barely any positives mentioned!). Operating systems all have their quirks, your brain rewires itself to deal with them. Once you get used to Mac features Windows is equally infuriating, I could go on for hours about that (having used both regularly). A truly unbiased comparison would surely come from a regular user of both systems.
After plugging in everything to my laptop (monitor, keyboard, etc.), and not taking it anywhere, I realize that I'm a desktop user. Having said that, I'm perplexed at why Apple users never seem to have issues. In 20 years, this is there first person who actually critiqued MBP. MBPS: _They just work._ But, apparently, they don't.
This was a great video. I've used Windows since the 3.1 days although I primarily use Ubuntu and other Linux distros now. I did just break down and pick up an M1 Macbook Air the other day and I spent all of today trying to establish a good workflow with it, so I feel your pain. Well, some of your pain. I'm a coder, not a creator, so the software I use is much less demanding. I'm also something of a minimalist when it comes to open applications so I never really have trouble finding where I left things. I also use a single ultrawide monitor rather than multiple monitors, so I can echo back that it's a better workflow for macOS (and Ubuntu, for that matter). I'm also used to using a dock and don't have a problem with it. Ultimately, I agree with your assessment of Macs. Hardware-wise, since the advent of the M1, they are 2-3 years ahead of the competition. OS-wise, they are 2-3 years behind. macOS is the clunkiest of the three major operating systems and it's been that way for a while now. Magnet is a great example. Sure, it works for window management, but that should absolutely be built into macOS. Ubuntu is a free operating system and they figured it out. Apple has no valid excuse for failing in that regard. There is a lot I like about the Air. Once I had it set up and working well I could really sit back and enjoy the superior hardware quality and the ridiculous amount of power those machines pack for their pricepoint. They compare well against laptops twice their price and all without even having a fan. That's amazing. I'll close by saying I get really jealous of all you TH-camrs having an excuse to buy a ton of different computers. I have no such excuse and it hurts me.
The MBA is crazy expensive here in the EU, even the M1 Base model. You'll probably end up at $1700-$2100 (higher end is m2, but there's not that much of a price difference between m1 and m2) if you don't want the base model.
I used a Mac for most of my life, but switched to Windows a while ago. Part of the reason was that for work I use a lot of programs that are only available on Windows, so I was having to run Windows anyway. The other reason was that it seemed like Apple stopped making any real updates to Mac OS. I can't remember the last time they have shown off a new version that had a feature I thought was useful. They sure do spend a lot of time reskinning it though! I really hope that Apple will have their Mac team sit down and go over the usability and productivity portions of Mac OS seriously. The dock came out over a decade ago and they haven't made any substantial updates to it since! It is hard to believe that no one at Apple has realized how antiquated it is.
I completely agree with you. The sentence "it seemed like Apple stopped making any real updates to Mac OS" says it all. At the same time, Windows improved a lot in usability over the years.
I've got an iPad Pro, iPhone, Apple Pencil...I'm not a complete curmudgeon. I don't do video editing (I'm print oriented) so the 2011 27" iMac (with dual monitors, SSD, scads of memory, and a CalDigit dock) gets the job done. And because I don't need or want to rent software, I'm still in Mavericks using CS4 apps. But I do keep my eye on the newer operating systems and have booted often into High Sierra. But at the end of the day - other than the reskinning and blending iOS into the MacOS - what you said should be chiseled in marble: "it seemed like Apple stopped making any real updates to Mac OS." I love playing around with the latest and greatest technology. But other than software compatibility, I see little reason to use the snazziest new MacOS because it's not fundamentally better. The Dock is a perfect example. It hasn't been significantly improved, almost from day one. And I think this gentleman at Fstoppers has pointed out just how fundamentally flawed the Dock is. And, yes, the "click on window first in order to do anything" is nut-driving for me as well. Nothing said in this presentation offended me as a Mac user since the late 80's. I wish Apple would employ him on their UI team.
Finder is even worse. A file management interface that most of the world gave up on in the 1990's. Every time I think I could switch to MacOS, using Finder to manage files on the network reminds that isn't possible. Really, it's Xtree vs. Midnight Commander all over again.
After 20+ years as a Windows user (I started with Win3.1), it took me three months to really get to like macOS. Now I love it and only use Windows for gaming.
@@dima10656 for me was: 1) move windows with shortcuts/dragging to the side (you can solve it with magnet app) 2) don't have file path on finder (it's not a default function but you can enable it) 3) preview doesn't move to the next photo if you press arrow key. 4) can't drag and drop selected text on browser 5) microsoft office has bugs with tables (sometimes a withe line appear near the edge of colored cells, sometimes one edge is thicker...) but i will never go to windows again
@@shining359 don't use preview, just press "space bar" on the picture/video you want to quicklook then press arrow to move to next picture (work better in list view) press space bar again to quit, drag and drop selected text on browser work (firefox) not sure why it doesn't work for you.. never used Microsoft office can't help with that one.
Hey! So my two cents on viewing multiple instances of an application on macOS. The three-finger swipe down while using any application actually brings up a mission control type view of all instances open of that particular application (plus shows the minimised instances in smaller tiles at the bottom as well). Additionally, if you mouse over any icon in the dock and do a three-finger swipe down when your cursor is over an icon, it will again bring up the same kind of mission control type view for that particular application. (I honestly have no idea how this would work with multiple monitors, never tried it). Personally, I've been using Ubuntu for my work primarily. I did get to use macOS for a couple of years recently and actually loved it . Felt like a great middle ground between Ubuntu and Windows, but then again I write code so we are naturally biased towards Unix based operating systems haha.
2:10 When dragging files to an app you don't need to do the extra step of dragging to the window after dragging to the dock. Just drag to the dock and let go, done (power tip: you can also drag to icons while holding down command-tab). The application is supposed to know what to do with that file and open it or add it to its library, whatever. Not all programs do this correctly and Adobe products are notorious for getting this wrong. But dragging video files to the dock icon of Premiere and letting go should do it. Power tip 2: If that doesn't work you can "force open" by holding down command-option just before you let go of the mouse button hovering over the icon. That'll force the app to try to open the file even if it thinks it doesn't recognize the file type. Sometimes this results in an error if the program really can't open the filetype or can't figure out the file type.
One of the main issues concerning the freezing, is that some apps are still not fully Arm compatible. This is not excusing the Mac, but there is a reason why these are still not perfectly fluid. One thing I have yet to experience on my Mac is a complete desktop lock out or BSOD. Sometimes an app may freeze up, but my Mac is still useable while that app gets its sh1t together in the background. In the last year of using my Intel Macbook and the new M1 Max Macbook, I can't remember a single time when I had to hold the power button to reset it, while both my Windows laptop and desktop have had to be force reset at least a dozen times. You mileage may vary, but I have been satisfied with how MacOS handles any software glitches.
I think it could have been the dock application doing strange things. But it could be a finder problem. Just saying because I can’t remember the last time finder crashed on me.
had numerous bsod on m1 MacBook, instead of blue it was black screen lol and system restarted. m1 MacBooks didn't play nicely with big sur. new macOS version is way better and stable.
** I just realized this video is over 6 months old. I hope by now you've figured all of this out, but in case there's anyone new reading this, let me try and help you. 1. You've been using a PC for decades so you're used to it. Now, you're leaning an entirely new operating system and you expect to be proficient at it in a few weeks. Give yourself a break and be patient. You not only have to learn a new operating system, you have to *unlearn* the old one. It takes time. 2. Most of the issues you're having can be solved with simply learning how the operating system works. Those videos your grandma watches are the same videos you'd watch if you were learning on a PC for the first time. For example, the cut & paste issue you're having was solved by learning what the shortcut is. The reason you can't cut and paste something like you can on Windows is so you don't move a file accidentally. The same goes for your multiple monitor issue. Did you know you can set up different desktops *for each monitor* you have? I *highly* suggest going onto the Apple website and simply read the full keyboard shortcut list. It will be eye opening. Conclusion: Switching from a PC to a Mac isn't like going from a convertible to a Jeep, it's like going from a car to a boat. You just need to learn the controls. Be patient; know that you're learning something new. I wish you all good things.
I actually switched to a Mac from Windows for 6 years. Then the Mac died and I went back to Windows. Oh man, it just is such a superior OS. Oh I am a tech savvy power user
I think this is an oversimplification. Of course there are always going to be things that are roughly equal, but just different. But there will also be things that are just objectively better. Windows management in windows is objectively better. You’re right in saying that it’s different, but it’s also better. Just one example, the alt+tab switcher in windows optionally allows you to include browser tabs in it. In other words, if your workflow involves mail.app, zoom, vscode, and 3 web apps (in their own tabs) all 6 of those appear in alt+tab in MRU order. Trying to work like this in macOS is both different ( like you said) but also objectively worse because the number of keystrokes and actions you need to take is way higher. And imagine if your web apps are spread across actual different browser instances. In windows, alt+tab until you get to that tab. In MacOS cmd+tab to your browser, CMD+~ to get to the other instance of that app, figure out if it’s faster to CTRL+tab or CTRL+shift+tab (because the safari tab switching isn’t MRU) and then potentially CTRL+ shift+tab multiple times. Then cmd+tab back to mail and hope that it didn’t go to the main mail window otherwise another cmd+~ to switch to the compose window. Even at a base level, the entire concept of needing to think whether you need to cmd+tab or cmd+~ is something that windows completely alleviates you of.
I've been a windows user all my life, and I had to move to macOS due to my new job.... Afer a year, this guy has the exact words that I've been looking for to describe my transition exprience... Yes. Macs are awesome... But my real personal laptop, will still being a windows machine.
it's because you're trying to use a mac like a windows machine. they're different and work different. if you start using the mac the way it's made to be used you'll be more annoyed with your windows laptop when you go back to it. I switched to a mac 4 years ago because I needed to for work (unix based was needed) and whenever I go back to my windows PC I get so frustrated that the things I can do with gestures and short cuts just do nothing in windows.
@@atomictyler As someone that is thinking of moving to the Apple ecosystem, I can't believe how poorly designed macs are when you try to use then with multiple screens. How the hell can you be productive with only one screen? And the dock seems useless.
@@atomictyler that's nonsense. By use a mac like a mac you mean stop trying to do common sense things that make sense, and make the user experience better? Or you could... I don't know... Put useful features everyone expects into the OS... Linux does... BSD does... Windows does... Solaris does.... macOS...uSe It LiKe A mAc ReQuIred
@@atomictyler Nope it's because Apple can't fix the basic issues like working with dual monitor etc. There are so many people complaninng about it and it looks like Apple dosen't care. I am also facing audio issues in Google meet in all browsers.
The absolute worst thing in macOS is the "mistery meat navigation" on the menus, where pressing "option" enables a whole different set of menu entries that you have no idea existed until you press the option button. So every time I have a new software or I need to do something in the finder, I just keep pressing option and releasing it to see what is changing.
You could reword this from “pressing option enables a whole different set of menu entries” to “pressing option shows you more options”. I think it’s pretty handy, the extra options are usually related to the original option it replaces as well so it’s not like they're just completely random
@@WilliamIsted That's all true, except you don't know that you can press "option" to reveal those options, that's the main issue. I just found about that by chance searching for something on the web, something trivial like how to cut/paste a file in macOS.
The multiple monitor problem with MacOS is why I switched to one 32” curved. All your points are spot on. If there was the same market for making Mac apps like there is for iOS, I think these problems would be resolved rather quickly
As I moved to Mac and macOS, first thing I did: Buy a magazine about what to expect when moving from Windows to macOS. It is a professionally made magazine here in Germany and after reading I never thought about Windows. I’m also a photographer with similar Workflow. Don’t make a Windows Machine out of your Mac! Or stay with Windows, because you seem to have a short fuse…
As a former Windows user, I love some of your observations about MacOS quirks and differences. Most of what you are complaining about are non Apple software issues like Adobe and Chrome. I put up with Chrome, but thankfully, I don't have to use Adobe for my work. I think Adobe is sub-standard software at best and have never preferred it. Thankfully, my dev tools, MS Office, Drawing tools all work without issues. I have a Windows laptop for work, which is a whole other ball of wax. Windows 10 has just finally gotten stable, for the most part, and MSFT is EOLing it for Windows 11, which is currently in "piece of junk" mode. Linux is good for certain things, but I have to flow back and forth between Windows and the MacOS and after 30+ years of Windows (v2.01 thru v10+)and 12+ of Mac, I have ended up preferring MacOS.
I've tried safari as I switched to Mac to do things the "apple" way. In my very short experience it is actually more unstable than chrome. Gonna stick with it for a lot of time though to really embrace mac and give it a real chance, despite the transition frustration.
@@user-pn2xt3jw1i No, I actually hate using Windows these days. MacOS and Linux are so much better. I choose MacOS because I prefer it’s feature set and logic for the arrangement of it’s tools and functionality.
Copy/paste is not how Mac users move files. Since 1984 we've moved files by dragging icons around in the Finder. Copy/paste was added a few years ago because Windows users kept complaining, but cut was intentionally not added because semantically a cut operation should remove the file immediately. But what happens if you never paste it anywhere? Should it delete the file? Also, how would it paste it if it had been deleted first? The metaphor breaks down. So Apple just doesn't allow it. BTW, dragging a file from one location to another location on the same filesystem defaults in moving the file, whereas dragging from one filesystem to another results in a copy. But you can force a copy in either case by holding down the option key, or force a move by holding down the command key. (Holding both option and command results in an alias being created instead.)
I made the switch a few years ago, and I too had many of the same frustrations. The key was just to keep at it, and forget what I knew either Windows. Eventually I found myself used to macOS. By adding all of the miscellaneous utilities to make it look like Windows, you really make the experience worse.
I don't see a point in switching either way. I am personally windows user all my life. I'm comfortable in using it and i can do all of my work fast and efficient. Why waste time adjusting to new system when it doesn't bring progress in any way? This all stands if you are a mac user. Why switch to windows when there are no actual benefits like doing work faster and more efficient. At the end of the day, its two sides of the same coin.
The takeaway is that last sentence, Mac really isn’t made to work smoothly with third-party utilities that try to replace basic aspects of the OS-that’s why that taskbar replacement constantly froze
@@chiefrebelangel817 in my case, it's because of the software. You can not develope iOS app on windows, or run C# stuff on MacOs. Maybe someone wanna use something Mac only like finalcut, or Windows only like some games. Or some hardware feature. There are a lot of reasons.
@@chiefrebelangel817 Sometimes it comes down to specific hardware/software that you might want to use. I originally switched to a MacBook Pro in 2007 because it was just relatively rare to be able to get a well built Windows laptop that was also portable (thin Windows laptops were slow and powerful ones were heavy) and more recently I went from using just a laptop for everything to having a separate custom built Windows desktop and a MacBook Pro because I wanted to get into gaming and I've started preferring dedicated hardware vs virtual machines if I want to run Windows (and on future Apple Silicon Macs I can't really properly run Windows in a VM anyway so just easier to have a separate PC).
I was a Windows guy who switched to Mac, despite hating the transition persisted for 6 years. Then my MacBook Pro died and I switched back to a vanilla Lenovo Windows. Man, it feels SO good.
In the Mouse and Trackpad area of the System Preferences, you can either remove or change the length of the “spring-loading delay.” By the way, spring-loading is a great feature! As others have pointed out, though, you can hit the spacebar while hovering over a window or folder to MANUALLY force the Mac to select that particular window/folder, rather than waiting for it to spring open or messing with the length of the spring-loading delay. Just keep hitting the spacebar as you drill through the folders until you get to the one you want. When the blue outline is gone, let go of the mouse. The files will move. If you’re spring-loading into a Finder window, the folders will all spring shut (and if you used spring-loading to open Finder in the first place, the Finder window itself should spring shut). Then you can go back to whatever you were doing before you decided to move the files. You can also use Command + Tab to switch between apps quickly and then use Command + ~ to switch between windows within the active app, eliminating the need to use spring-loading, but of course you need to have the window already open to the folder you want. Or heck, use all of the above! I do. Every single day. No OS is perfect, but even macOS can be fantastically useful and snappy when you learn how it works. 😊
I was using my Mac today and I realized why Windows users tend to minimize windows a lot (something that frankly isn't a great experience on MacOS) and that's because they probably haven't engrained command-h to hide the current app. I do it so automatically that I don't even think about it. CMD-H hides the current app and all its windows, not just the current window. It's vastly superior in almost all cases to minimizing. I use this in place of spaces/virtual desktops. CMD-TAB and CMD-H are my window/application managers.
Hi, there. Congrats on trying this. I used windows and built my PCs for many years, until I switched to Macs completely starting 2012. I love the hardware and love the software, but Mac Os used without third party softwares to improve it, it can be quite frustrating. The multiple display features is still a nightmare and the finder is just a mess. But still, even with that, I can't go back to windows without feeling sick. To improve my mac experience, I use Pathfinder to replace finder. It save me so much time with queue copy. And by the way, cut-paste file can be done more easily (even on finder), just drag & drop and move the file to where you want to put it. If you drop your file to another hard-drive, it will copy. If you drop it on the same disk, it will move it. If you want to move (cut/paste) your file for sure, just drag & drop the file wherever you want and holding alt key before. Another third party i'm using is Hyperdock, in order to see different windows of the same app. Hope it can help. Mac Os is to me clearly the best computer OS (I'm industrial designer), but still, it's far from perfect (multiple displays is a mess, for example and you should always wait 1 or 2 versions of Mac Os, rather than directly jump to the last version, or suffer many annoying bugs). But still, to my experience, Mac Os goes far & beyond windows UX and UI. At least, so far. Your version of Mac Os might be the last one available when you did the video, so you got tons of bugs. That is so annoying, reason why I never jump to the last version.
@@niklasbl4030 I would say it is one of the worst out of the popular video editing software I would much rather use fcp or davinci. One time fee both more optimized, davinci has fusion and color grading in one software
editing in adobe premiere: this by itself is a recipe for frustration. Adobe still has not made a decent app for Mac. Many issues I saw was with Adobe. So ... if you , for whatever reason want to stay on Adobe, wait fro Adobe to make a decent application. It is not Mac's fault. The evidence that the difference in your experience comes from the app developer lies with Davinci. Regarding the restart just uncheck the autoupdates install. does Mac has some frustrated things, Sure , no doubt. I blame Apple for not having a thumbnail preview on the dock, or not having a simple indicator for what your copy-paste transfer speed is. And there are others as well. One thing I cannot blame Apple though is Adobe's poor developed apps. You might never be a MacOS guy, and that is fine.
This content is 10/10. As a heavy user of Linux, Windows and MacOS, I can say there are a lot of frustrations on all fronts. I have resigned to a windows desktop for daily home use, Mac laptop for mobile use and Linux homeserver (this is kinda obvious).
Lee : "it's enfuriating! Makes me mad! How do people not complain about these features? It's a mess" also Lee : "so I've decided to keep this MacBook..." 😂😂
Well it like hopping into a Race car, and starting complaing that it do not work like a Prius. Some find the PC intuitive and logical, other do find the Mac more intuitiv and logical. Use what is up to your liking, and stop this drama.
I'm willing to bet in the next 5 years, he uses his MBP almost exclusively. It's crazy how many people I know that love these machines (even after hating them initially) a few years later.
I use windows at work but Mac at home. I don’t find it hard bouncing back and forth between the two. My mind just separates the peculiarities of each OS. A lot of premier users now use Divinci resolve. That may be something to consider.
@@iThnk2 just muscle memory and training your brain to associate them to each OS-in other words, practice. I know I messed up my shortcuts when I used both but only because I used Mac 80% of the time
@@iThnk2 macOS has an absolute ton of shortcuts and you can add them yourself as well. There's also a native option to assign the command functionality to the control button, primarily added for users migrating from Windows or Linux.
@@21N13 I resently got MacBook I did manage to solve few key layout problems with carabiner and new remapable kayboard. But no, shortcuts not that easily transferable as you think: Enter - not opening file but renaming it (stupid as F). Backspace doesn't go back in finder , not be able do shift select sequence in icon mode is ridiculous, refreshing page, minimize all windows, and on and on... There is a lot of different shortcut you can't chenge easily. Thankfully carabiner made life of switching betwen Windows and Mac back and forth less painful.
System Preferences, Notifications, choose "Banners", "None", or disable "Allow Notifications" all together control/right click app on Dock, Options, "Assign To...", app will always open in that Desktop/Space never Dock for app switching, CMD+TAB System Preferences, Mission Control, disable "Automatically rearrange Spaces" System Preferences, Keyboard, Shortcuts, Mission Control, assign or use shortcut for "Application windows", or in Mouse/Trackpad preferences assign a shortcut to App Exposé (Exposé is like a Mission Control for windows of the foreground application) CMD+~, switch between windows of the foreground app CTL+TAB, switch between tabs of the foreground app useful when app windows are in different Desktops/Spaces
I don't know if you will read this, as it is an old video, but there is actually a native graphical preview for seeing which window you are clicking on. 1. Go to settings and under trackpad gestures enable app expose. It will be under more gestures 2. Perform this gesture while your mouse is over the icon to see your open windows for just that app. Also under mission control enable grouping by application. Hope this helps!
man, i’ve bought that laptop 3 days ago and your video is like watching myself 2 weeks in the future. that thing that you can’t shift select in thumbnail view is bonkers. I enjoyed the video a lot. Very sensible and unbiased. Keep us updated!
As a life long Mac user, I understand the underlying reasons to why things work in a specific way on MacOS. Everything has a reason and it all becomes incredibly intuitive once you know it, since everything works the same way. I've also been trapped into making windows look like MacOS on my school PC, and no, it's not a good idea. Just try to get used to the new way of doing things and you'll be way happier than trying to make Mac work like Windows.
I was thinking about switching to the new Mac but based on the comments here, I think I will stick with windows. Correct me if I am wrong but most mac users in the comment seem to suggest "Mac can't do that, you just have to accept it" or "there is a comparable app that works better with iOS". Those are not very convincing answers. It seems like most mac users are accepting negative aspects of iOS and justify it as features of iOS. I am sure there are some stuff that windows can't do but in most cases, there is a way to make it work in windows.
You are not wrong. Mac users tend to be sheep. But I have a good cadre of fellow Mac users who are not. And the feedback to Apple by these pro users over the years has been significant. I mean, look at ports returning to the MacBooks. The reduction of ports was only ever a fetish of the strange reductionists at Apple. But put the ports back (at the insistence of pro users) and you can sell them like hotcakes. Apple is a company that makes all kinds of great stuff. And the Mac is experiencing a Renaissance at the moment. It's no longer being ignored. This is great. Best days ever for the Mac. But pros dare not let Apple cruise on autopilot. Their tendency is style over substance. They sometimes have to be brought kicking and screaming to common sense. And that can take years.
@@bradnelson3595 "Mac users tend to be sheep." "Their tendency is style over substance." 🙄 There are great qualities to both operating systems. Let's not make this into a projection of your perceived superiority. What a sad comment.
As a software developer, MacOS is way better to work with than (Windows being a Unix based system). I have both Macs and PCs. I use the Macs for programming and graphic design, and my PC for gaming and video editing (since I can upgrade CPU/RAM a lot easier and cheaper). They are both fine platforms. I went from a Windows fanboy, to a Mac fanboy, to a “they both do certain jobs well. Use them both.”
@@chirpie11 This stupid trend was started by Apple. It's alright for ultrabooks that are used unplugged for straightforward tasks. But for more demanding tasks requiring decent versatility ports are a must. Ports don't add that much weight or size. Excluding them on laptops larger than ultrabooks doesn't really help anything.
No, it's different. The frustration from macOS users on Windows is usually because it's not made the same way that it is made in macOS. The frustration from Windows users on macOS is because you CAN NOT do the things. Tested all 3 (Windows, macOS, Linux) and I get the idea of simplicity for macOS, but just be honest it's not the best OS to do real/heavy work. Just for the average non techy/producer user.
I tried to switch from Windows to MacOS for 3 times, your frustration is exactly what I had. Just amazed that other people don't talk about them, until I saw your videos.
Yeah, it's refreshing to find real life examples of things going wrong. And the hilarious freezing montage, lol. I think most Mac users just don't run into these, because they aren't used to do things like on Windows, so they aren't trying to recreate the Windows experience. But some issues are macOS shortcomings, macOS bugs or rooted in unfamiliarity with macOS (e.g. not knowing about many ways to do things and not knowing any power user to ask questions of freely) and others are incompatibilities with Apple's M-series (e.g. Adobe and bug fixes).
It's so refreshing to see this video. I've been mucking around with computers now for over 35 years and many OSes. I use a Windows machine as my daily, an M1 MBP for work travel and I run Linux on a chromebook. Out of them all, I still prefer Windows by a good bit. I am by no means a fanboy, but I think Windows is still sullied by a very long, poor reputation going back to the problems of W95 and 2k, etc. Truth is, my self-built gaming machine is far more stable, and it behaves for me in a way that makes more sense, like looking at a folder of files laid out plainly by date (something my mac struggles to be able to do with any predictability - it sometimes takes ages to put a timestamp on a recent file for whatever reason). In general, I find windows allows me to do what I want both more straightforward and more flexibly than with the mac. Like Lee, I've had to install 3rd party programs to mimic things I should get out of the box like hyperdock and bettertouchtool. Both machines very much have their merits, but I will send this video to the many mac fanboys I work with who look at me like a monster when I tell them I prefer windows.
I just wrote an article on Medium to which, somewhat puzzlingly, mac people flocked to, insulting me and saying I didn't know what I was doing and that's why I didn't like Mac OS, but what you just said kind of echoes my experience. Yes, you can download third party apps to do the things you need to do, but that's a really bad look for Apple, and it's off putting to me personally.
@@thatwasprettyneat that's really the nature of the fan club. It's amazing how people spending thousands of dollars and not getting paid thousands of dollars will still willingly shill for a company, and I think it mostly comes down to the 'cool' factor. Apple has long been seen as the hip brand and despite numerous mistakes and ridiculous prices on things, the fan base cannot get enough.
I have used Windows and macOS every day for the past 16 years. I prefer macOS. Faster and far more stable. By the sounds, most of your major problems are associated with Adobe, not apple. As you've rightly pointed out, there are also many things that macOS does, which Windows is terrible at, e.g. system-wide text-to-speech and speech-to-text (I'm sorry, the windows implementation is hopeless), much better default backup system, quick preview with the space bar (it works in many places), system-wide file tagging (again windows is hopeless), trackpad functionality on laptops, integration with iPad, automatic character recognition in photos, and much, much more... The two operating systems are different. Just learn them both.
Speech to text and text to speech in other languages than English is horrible. To me it is utterly unclear how an iPhone is advertised for people with bad sight so they can use voice control etc. It just doesn’t work, misunderstands commands, completely destroys sentences and words. I use an iPhone since 2009 & MacBook since 2019
@@Oldnose63 Sure. I have no idea about languages other than English. My point was that speech recognition has much better integration within the OS. SR in Windows is sporadic, and in my case, much less reliable. How does SR work for languages other than English on Windows?
My single best tip with a MacBook is the three finger swipe. When you have a full screen application you can swipe with three fingers and it will seamlessly move to another open application. Very slick and fast, no need to minimize nearly ever. Makes workflow very fast.
I agree that Final cut is probably the best editing software for Mac, but using Mac exclusive software , when you need a cross platform solution for your workflow does not make sense even more.
A lot of the time, people use Premier not because Premier is great but because it plugs into other applications so effortlessly. If you are firmly in the Adobe ecosystem - it makes sense to use Premier. Would I buy a Mac still... I would, but I don't think there is a huge advantage over a Windows machine for most.
Resolve runs great on Mac also. Adobe I think are still trying to get their apps working natively on M1 chips it’s still all through Rosetta and it’s always been sketchy at the best of times.
The SD card unplug notification is mainly due to the background indexing / thumbnail creation. Unlike Windows which is usually safe to unplug SD Card at any time, macOS keeps writing and writing and writing new files to your SD Card. If you unplug without ejecting, it will be way easier to corrupt the filesystem
2:16 Right there, it looks like you didn’t wait long enough for the premiere window to be actually active, you let go of the files while it was still in mission control. Using Command tab would help with this a lot, so you can switch to other apps really quick. Like alt tab in windows. Or, just keep your finder window a little smaller, it really doesn’t need to be that big
Yes, the problem of dragging files onto premier is caused by him windowfying his finder to be maximised and thinking like a PC by dragging the files onto the dock icon. The mac way is to just drag from the finder window (which is just smaller) onto the app window in the background.
This is very interesting to see. I have been exclusively using Windows PCs for 20 years, when I made the switch to an Apple MacBook Air M1 this year. I definately feel some of your frustations! It took me some time to get used to the quirks of MacOS and yes, just like you I also encountered a lot of bugs and freezes during my time of using MacOS. But somehow I became hooked when I really dug deeper into all the cool details that MacOS does differently than Windows. My biggest enjoyment is the way MacOS just ties all your accounts, contacts, calendars and passwords together. I absolutely hated having to log into all my accounts manually when using Windows. Now I just put my finger onto the finger id sensor and I can acces all my stuff in a logical and cohesive manner. After using a Pixel 2 XL for about 4.5 years, I now also ordered an iPhone because of the way all my stuff is interconnected now. This is the absolut selling point for me
Yeah going from android to ios I believe is much more frustrating than going from windows to macos. Android does a decent job of id authentication in my experience so for me going to ios is just for fun. I HATE how to rearrange app icons on ios, can't believe they haven't changed that much in all the years.
Love this. When I switched over to a Mac for work, I experienced everything you’re going through. I don’t get why people defend bad ui design. There’s a lot of bad design choices on macs. Sure, if you use it enough, you get used to it but that seems like a silly way of working. I’d love to combine different parts of Windows and macs os.
There are some things he brought up that are proprietary windows designs and Apple can’t do it legally, just like the same that Mac does and windows cannot. I love the compatibility between devices with the Mac.
After the last few years of being on a Mac I still have those frustrations. When I first started on Mac I would dual boot into Windows using Bootcamp and then I used Parallels but those ended up being more of a pain so I have been Mac only. I did install Ubar after watching your last video and in spite of its short cummings it has been welcome change to the Mac dock that I have always hated. If it causes issues in the future I may have to go back but for now I am happier with it. As an app dev I am forced to use Mac for developing iOs apps.
I'm a game developer and I end up using all three main OS's constantly and I can definitely say I prefer macOS. But before that I was a full on windows fanboy and when I switched I sounded exactly like you did, everything was counter intuitive compared to windows, and I was just trying to force my windows workflow into a completely different OS. But once I got used to its quirks and started utilizing it's unique features its really hard to fully go back to windows. Its kinda like any other software, you have to get good at it before it really becomes useful
Most of the things you complain about have simple solutions. I've been working on macOS with a triple monitor for years. Once you understand how it works, what is the philosophy behind it, you will be happy.
I hear you loud and clear on the dock issues, particularly when it comes to data transfer. I’ve learned the hard way to just juggle the tb3 ports on my Mac with 1 for the dock/charging and non storage items and one for either my raid 5 backup or my sample libraries. I nuked a 4tb tb3 ssd earlier this year with an expensive tb3 dock and won’t trust it again for daisy chaining storage.
Loved your input and feedback. It’d be awesome to see you try and link up with MKBHD and compare workflows. Also one thing that has helped me use macOS regarding the dock - I get rid of all the app icons in the dock except launchpad and then any icons I see are ones that are open. To open apps I use launchpad and organize the apps how I want them.
I am impressed with your open-mindedness to be willing to try this, BUT, I think many of the things that bother you are muscle memory from your life with a PC. I also think lack of first hand experience plays a roll. Certainly, there are Mac issues just as there are in the PC World. Still, I think you have been very fair, and just need to get more familiar with the system... Great job....
Exactly. None of his "problems" are actual problems. There's just a certain way to do them and he doesn't know how to. Apple literally puts out free user manuals that would answer every question he has. Why more people don't use them is mind-boggling.
@@RocketEightEight No, YOU have to Google every small problem you have. Also, if you're experiencing a problem and don't know how to solve it, how else are you going to fix it? I don't understand what you're trying to say.
Virtual desktop work amazing on windows too, I use them a lot on my pc too. Keeping apps with study and work related stuff on one and any other thing on the other. Keeps you focused, it's a feature I loved in linux but gotta say windows also does it great without any problems or lacking features.
I'm a fellow Windows -> Mac user, and one piece of advice I would have is to get used to maximising everything, then swiping up on the trackpad (with 3 fingers) to see what you have open. The dock is not like the taskbar, and trying to use the dock like the taskbar will drive you mental! Just get used to the trackpad gestures generally, it will make your like so much easier!
Have to agree with most of this content. I’ve been using macs since the first ever made. Back when I used a g3 power Mac and G4, Mac OS upto 10 was super easy moving files around and felt intuitive and every time they updated the Mac OS it just got worse in navigating for files. Yes things have massively improved in reliability but it’s the file management that is important to most users as that’s the biggest head ache you don’t want. Dongles are a real pain especially for myself being a photographer so good they have brought back the micro sd slot back. But there are two sides to every coin and pcs do things I hate to and I find them more complicated in a lot of ways. I think apple should listen to your videos as even as a Mac user we have the same issues too I just wish they would listen and change those simple things that you love on your pc and be able to do that to on a Mac. I guess it’s the same with all tech there’s never a perfect one as one tv may have better features where as another has better quality screen or build quality. It drives me insane reading reviews and choosing tech because there’s always a downside and upside and rarely one piece of tech to rule them all and it being an easy choice when buying something. The biggest thing I loved with older OS was the ability to colour code files which highlighted the whole strip of a file, which you still can do but it’s just a little dot which dosnt feel the same to me.
Apple has a solution for your dock problem at 5:35. If you have multiple windows open and you minimize one, you have to press and hold on the application in the app bar. If a checkmark is next to it then it is open. If a diamond is next to it then it is minimized. If you do not minimize any windows and they're all open in the same space, use the three finger gesture to get the Mission Control view and see them all at a glance. Sometimes the windows overlap and makes it hard to find the right one so you can hover the mouse over an application and press the space bar to get a preview of it before selecting it. If you have too many windows in one screen, you should move apps to other spaces by adding a new space in mission control. You should also enable the three finger swipe to swipe between spaces. This is what I found works best for organizing applications.
I know this would get buried but thank you thank you so much for these videos. You have exactly the same perspective I have on almost every level and I don't consider myself a power Windows user. This is the second time in my life I have been seriously pondering switching OSs and once again I couldn't find a detailed video of all the issues and frustrations I will find with the apple OS, until now. This will greatly help with my choice.
2:17 this drives me absolutely insane. We attach videos, screenshots and documents dozens of times a day in Jira and resizing windows like this is asinine. It blows my mind how close Windows is getting to the perfect balance of convenience and power compared to MacOS....the OS that's been striving for decades to achieve it.
I literally drag and drop from finder into a hidden chrome window on not just jira, but imgur, confluence, wetransfer all day long and it works without issue. This is not an OS limitation.
@@rufysufy I did end up managing it last week actually. I wasn't waiting long enough with the cursor over the dock icon. It does work. It takes a while but it's fine.
This video somewhat confirms my suspicion that lately it's been a waste of time and money to try to upgrade to anything else than what I already have and use. I've been this "on the edge" of the tech frontier guy, trying all the tech there was. But lately it feels like anywhere I'd go, there would be something to bother me and it would never be resolved. Having a Windows laptop or workstation at least gives me some versatility (all the productive AND games run on it), and when it's too old I can always make it into a media center or server.
i use macs for work and pc at home for gaming. i think the main wrong mentality when you're trying to use other systems is to try to mimic everything you're accustomed to into the new thing you're trying to learn. It's like trying to use chopsticks in the same way as using a fork, it can work but you will have bad time. If you try to use it as a chopstick, at first you'll struggle and then you'll learn. at first i swapped command and control to have windows-like copy-paste system. And I said, "i want to learn this thinking this is a mac, instead of a windows", and I forced myself to use command + c , v to use copy paste and i mastered things in 4-5 days. Now when I use macs I know that certain shortcuts are for macs and certain shortcuts are for windows, and you feel like a polyglot. for the programs that crashing, i think the one to blame is the company who still needs to optimize it on the new machine, i think it's just unfair to test a machine based on a third party program's crash stats.
I really enjoyed this video comparison. I am a long time user of both Windows and Mac. The struggle is real. I constantly jump back and forth due to one OS being better at something then the other. The ecosystem is a big factor. I was issued an iPhone for work. I bought an iPad for work and certain apps that are only available for iOS. Keep the vids coming.
Thanks for sharing your experience, it’s very useful and interesting to me, since I’ve bounced back and forth over the years. I used Macs in the 90s, was a huge fanboy, then used Windows almost exclusively through the 00s (I worked in IT, both in support and in applications development) and then got a MacBook for editing photos in 2011. I always loved MacOS, so it was cool to get back to it. In 2016 I needed a much beefier machine to stitch huge panoramas with PTGUI, and in pricing and comparing hardware I just could _not_ justify the cost of another Mac vs. building a custom PC where I could do RAID and add humongous amounts of disk space and have it all run on SATA. I dreaded going back to Windows for my main working PC...I just thought I would hate it. It didn’t take me long to get used to it again though, as Windows 10 really is the best Windows they ever made. Apple has gone downhill since Jobs died. Macs still have advantages, but I don’t feel like they are the super stable “it just works!” platform they used to be, and I definitely don’t think I would prefer MacOS over Windows again. I think I would find going back kind of rough...the hardware _is_ definitely better when it comes to keyboard, trackpad, mic, camera like you said...but I’m skeptical that the main guts are really worth the price like I thought 10 or so years ago. I really found your experience in these two videos interesting, and I think I would have a similar experience to yours if I went back. But like you, I’m not interested in picking up FCP...I use DaVinci Resolve and would prefer to stick with that. Everyone I’ve heard praise the new M1 uses FCP...so it’s interesting seeing your experience with Premiere.
The reason why it shows that warning about unpluging stuff is because it's literally not safely unplugged and it really can damage your devices if there is some writing happening. So careful to not lose your data on the drives. Yup sux... I like to automatically hide my dock so the windows are on full screen and the dock is not taking up the space. Apple suggest to use that green fullscreen button so you can just slide across different "desktops" with three fingers swipe to the left/right. Also if you "right click" (it's two fingers click) on the dock icons it shows you opened instances.
Dragging and dropping into Premiere has never been a problem for me. I’m surprised you’re having trouble. It is also possible to drag a file to the new location, which will totally move it, effectively cutting and pasting.
@@ryanokeefe12 well, you can drag and drop without opening a new window too, but you would then need to re-navigate to the original location as dragging the file to the destination would navigate you to the destination folder. But if you plan to cut and paste a file with only one window open, I fail to see how dragging the file to the destination and completely leaving the original location is any different. You would still only have one window open, and you’d be moving your file(s) to the new destination.
@@ryanokeefe12 if you drag the file over the top folder and hold it for a second, it will open that folder, then you can navigate to the appropriate sub-folder.
As a prospective mac user, I really appreciate this series. Though my main use case won't so much be video editing but coding and and some design work, this definitely brings some perspective to the ecosystem hailed to have the best laptops on the market. I'm not entirely too bothered by mac doing things in different ways from windows. Coming from having experience in using linux systems I think I'll be quite familiar with a mac. However, the biggest thing that got me while watching your vids is defintely the issue with the dock and also the file transfer not showing any details. I am honestly quite appalled that mac doesn't have something in place for what I'd consider a fundamental feature for modern OSs. That being said, I'm still very excited to get my hands on a new mac. The biggest driving point for me is the fact that I'll be able to use my design software alongside having a bash terminal natively for my programming. Something that would drive me nuts when on windows or on a linux machine is how you cannot have both worlds natively on your pc. For bash you have to either install wsl, or some 3rd party terminals like cygwin or git bash which are not as intergrated in the system as simply having them natively like in linux. Similarly, with linux, you have to hop through some hoops as well if you even hope to run software like the Affinity design suite or Clip Studio paint. At the very least, with a macbook I'll be able to easily access my design software tools that I want to use more regularly, along with my wacom tablet, all while also being able to do my work and having the best experience and speed when compiling my code. That and of course the insane battery life are the main driving points for a mac for me. The other features that come with the mac are of course nice bonues, but I'm glad to have been exposed to some issues I will likely encounter coming from windows and linux. I wish more people would make videos to show the differences between the operating systems and expose more of apple's shortcomings so that people considering a switchover can do so with realistic expectations.
I did the same, except for 3 years instead of 3 weeks. Same conclusion as you. If I was to compact my review in short; Apple is not for power users looking for workflow optimization and efficiency; It's focused on simplicity the way they envisioned it with their workflow. Ultimately, everything ends up taking more time, even if you really use it the way they intend you to, but not everyone cares about that, they just enjoy the UI and they don't care about the extra second or minute like you and me, they love the simplicity and the consistency across the whole echo system. If you dare complain, many will try to argue that you are at fault, that you are bringing your Windows habits or that you just dislike the OS... but no, habits and preferences aside, the differences are real and measurable: To think that all your friends didn't know how to cut and paste files or move them and that they accepted their fate just says efficiency doesn't affect their sleep like me (and you probably). As a multi-platform developer; my hand is never on that mouse and everything has to be efficient and quick and very customizable with one keystroke away and that OS was not built for people like me. Anyone that spends years deeply exploring both will endup with the same average conclusion as me as far as I know. I like them for simple media centers or light work, they are simple and clean, easy to use for anyone in the house and I do most of my real work on Linux or Windows depending( and never a laptop anymore.... )
I know your pain, I've always used windows at home, but when I started working at a film company, everybody EVERYBODY used mac, so I had to switch because that's what they gave me, and after the same frustrations, I just gave up and said to myself "that's how this works". Also, that people that say that mac never freezes/crashes, that you never have to restart, that "it just works", yeah, they have never used their computer to its fullest. In the end I landed to the same conclusion, I'm not leaving my windows dektop, but when I need to grab a laptop and go, I'll grab a mackbook pro every time. Great video man!
I went down a comparable route: going from Linux with Gnome (which is comparable to the Interface of macOS in one way or another) to macOS. I've returned my MacBook. While it is a not good but great laptop, especially performance and battery wise, I just can't shake off the feeling that I'm dealing with a polished Gnome desktop environment that comes with exactly the same restrictions Gnome does. macOS feels like a pretty boy Linux distribution with support for proprietary software which was my main reason to give it a try: Adobe and Office aren't working on Linux unfortunately and Photoshop is essential for me, GIMP doesn't make the cut. Windows it is I guess.
I've been building gaming PC's since I was 13 years old, so I'm pretty embedded in the Windows ecosystem when it comes to a PC. That said, I exclusively use iPhones, iPads, and an Apple Watch on the daily for everything else. I work from home since 2020, and have been using my gaming PC for my day to day work. Nothing too heavy, but I generally will have Chrome running 24/7 with 20+ tabs open, in addition to Excel, Word, Powerpoint and a chat client I use for work (Microsoft Teams). Not super heavy duty stuff, but a lot of smaller/medium sized programs running all at the same time. My gaming PC handles all this with ease while pushing two 4K monitors. Unfortunately, a recent bad thunderstorm came though my area and I experienced a bad power surge which ended up taking my desktop out of commission. I panicked because of course I need a computer for work and given the fact I was recently promoted, I thought it'd be a bad look if my first week in the new position I was hamstrung by having to work on a crappy backup HP laptop I've had for a decade. I started looking at buying a new computer I could use in the meantime while I worked on getting my desktop back to life, and ended up landing on the new MacBook Air. Heard great things about the M1 chip and felt like it would be a safe bet on being able to run everything I need for work. So far I've been using the MacBook for about a week, and aside from the bummer of only being able to extend my display to just one of my 4K monitors without an expensive dock, I have to say I'm really really surprised how much I'm liking the experience. So much so, I'm considering just making this a permanent switch. There's still a couple of things I run into here and there that can be confusing, but overall I find I'm better able to multitask on the Mac, even with the fact one of my screens is the tiny 13" built in display, due to all the awesome trackpad gestures that allow me to quickly switch between applications I have running. That and the seamless integration between my phone, watch, and iPad is truly amazing. Never thought I'd see the day!
This was a great video. In March 2020 I built a PC because I couldn't afford a Mac. Now when I use MacOS I get so frustrated because it's so different and doesn't do what I want. I love my PC, and I'll never switch back but for day to day it's great to have a Mac too
2:00 It look like you are In an other applications (Open file) window that make use of Finder rather than you having a normal Finder window open. Next time, then try open a separate Finder window for that type of work. It's just like If you try to open MS Word, open file and then try interact with other file formats then .docs. You are in many ways limited in moving around folders etc. from an (open file) window compared to a normal finder window. 1:00 Yes, It is only In list mode you can select start and ending points. So you can either choose to select the files you want to select by mark them and subsequently hold the "Command" kay down to manually select one more/less file. for example if you have marketed all the files In a line and would like to mark one more which is a located a lille further down in the folder. Alternatively, you must switch to list mode each time. I have no idea how it works on Windows, but can see many dilemmas when you are not sure wish files are between your start and end points. 3:30 Why do you use this logitech dongle? Most machines come with BT today and If you buy the Mac version of logitech's MX Master, then there is no dongle included. Seriously, it does not even take half a second from you turn on the mouse to It's connected and ready for use by using BT. 4:00 Remember to eject your devices before unplugging them, you do that by right-clicking on them and selecting "eject"
For @1:00, it just works in Windows. You can have massive thumbnails in the window, and all you do is click on one file, scroll all the way down to whatever end file you want, press shift, and click on the second file. All files between and including the two files will automatically be selected. The thumbnail you first selected doesn't even have to be visible anymore when you shift+click the second thumbnail. It's so ridiculously convenient to be able to do this in a window with perhaps hundreds of files and thumbnails. You certainly don't have to "make multiple square selections" or go into a list view, lol.
@@victorlin4645 But If you, for example turn off the grid mode in a folder, which files are then between your start and ending points and which will not be selected? When I select a lot of files in a folder with grid turn of, by just using my cursor. Then Only the files withinde what I highlight will be selected. Must admit that I find it just as easy, to just highlight All the files down to the last file I want to select with the cursor. Would normally only have to make use of "shift" in list view, as It can be a bit difficult some times to select af lot of files without accidentally dragging one of the files around and In list view you also can't turn of the grid. Maybe that Is why this funktion exist in list view. What about In Gallery view?
@@nickvogelius the idea is that you can visually see the images you want to select because they're nice big thumbnails. In Windows I use this all the time. Say that I have a folder with 500 image files and I need to select a group of 13 of them that I shot together as part of a panorama. It's super easy to visually see the images as thumbnails and do the Shift Select thing. I wouldn't be able to do this in list view. I can't visually make out what the images are. Same with video files.
@@victorlin4645 But why not just drag and snap all the files you want to highlight with your cursor In thumbnail view, for Yes! I agree that list view is more information oriented, file name, date, size etc. But if I need to see both the information and the thumbnails of the files, then I will use QuickLook, where you easily can switch between all your photos in a folder by using the arrow keys simultaneously with quicklook or why not just switch to gallery view.
When I initially switched to mac from a lifetime of windows, I initially had the same kind of reaction trying to use mac like windows. It was only when I tried to properly learn the operating system and its differences that I found ways to significantly accelerate my processes. I kept going back to windows in the beginning and took me 1-2 years for me to warm up to a mac. But since then, I've never once wanted to go back to a windows machine again. Everyone's mileage varies but for me, mac is significantly more efficient, effective and reliable. On the reliability piece; I might add that whilst every computer CAN crash once in a blue moon, windows can force restarts and updates on you and even delay your boot up with forced updates. This feels intentional and I hate that I can't control it beyond pausing updates for a very short period of time. When you have a very critical need for a computer right at that moment and you open up your computer to a windows update screen, that is simply not ideal.
Buying a Pro license of Windows really helped the "update" issues for me. It still happens for time to time, but it gives you much more control compared to the standard licence
Thank you so much for making these videos. I am so close to giving the Mac a try. Yet, I know it will drive me crazy. And you have just saved me from this madness!!
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Chrome tabs solution: It is called application expose, when using more than one chrome window, just swipe 4 fingers down on your MacBook touchpad, then you have only chrome windows shown on screen and every one is labeled below to easy navigate through them. It should work with many screens and desktops throughout macOS. You can assign button on your mouse to do this and also active corner of your monitor with mission control settings. Hope this helps, You can delete this comment after reading, I wanted your attention so I replied here.
@@jakubfurtak563 thanks I’ll try
Hi Lee, regarding your point at 8:50, perhaps I can help with a suggestion. If you go to System Preferences, and then Mission Control and select "Group windows by application," it will label the windows with their application logo/icon and make it easier to identify which window belongs to which application. Nonetheless, you have made valid points.
@@jakubfurtak563 Apple products "just work"... except in fact you must tweak them and be much more a geek expert than using Windows and Android if you want to do more than just my grand mother
@@FStoppers If you right click the application icon in the dock, it shows all your open windows in that application. The app expose discussed above is the other solution.
What's funny is expecting Premiere to be crash free in any operating system.
Exactly!
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Haha, this hits home. Premier is a Giant pile, They keep adding things but cannot fix the damn random crashes. I have used it on windows and MacOS and crashes just as much on both.
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Windows user using macOS: WTF is this?
macOS user using Windows: WTF is this?
MacOS user using MacOS: WTF is this?
Linux user using Linux : WTF is this and HowTheF# i ended up at this problem ?!
that's why I use neither and use KDE and Gnome
Stumbled on this series. You did a great job holding back your bias. Almost every single thing you said is spot on about problems with Mac.
I agree with almost everything you said. However, when it comes to Adobe performance, as a designer I can tell Adobe makes the worst softwares in terms of size and optimisation so I wouldn't just blame the computer. Love this series though!
i fucking hate adobe
@@ooblagon6830 they should just make their software like $700 for students. Even tho that’s extremely pricy. I would rather do that than sale my body for adobe suit
@@cameronmcgehee You miscalculated my friend it's $255 for 8 months. 8 Months times 30$ is around $255 give or take tax. 4 Yearly plans would be 48 months * 29.99 equaling 1,439.52.
@@cameronmcgehee sure you don't want the $700? lol
@@felcynchannel840 Oh stupid mistake, that would be for $30 a year not month. I am tired today...
This is an excellent series. But it seems really clear - you should stick with Windows. First, because you don’t edit with Resolve or Final Cut. Second, because you don’t like MacOS. It seems like you’re encountering the same thing as people who try to make iPad their only computer - they try to recreate the experience they’re accustomed to on the new device/software. But if you’re open to switch, the idea is to do things differently, not imitate the old way in the new system.
Thank you! This^^^^ just a rant that Mac OS is not windows is such stupid content.
Had the same thought. It's like becoming a vegetarian, and making a video complaining how difficult is it to recreate exactly the same food that you are used to cooking. Or trying to play rugby the same way as football :-) It will not work and you will be frustrated. I'm quite sure that Mac users would have a very similar experience trying to recreate workflow on windows.
I think this is the MOST click bait vid ever to fuel on Mac vs Windows topic.
@@khoifoto it’s really not clickbait. You can clearly see the guy on the video was actually forced to do this and really did not want or feel like adapting his workflow to another way of working, constantly trying to replicate the experience just with Command keys instead of Control, lol
I disagree with both of you. An OS should strive to improve with every iterration. MacOS in this sense hasn't advanced to the required level.
I've been running MacOS on my work laptops and Windows + Linux on my home desktops for years and years.
Out of 3 options only Linux handles this correctly.
Multitasking is something that is one of the focus points of business oriented machines such as MacBooks and iMacs.
And that is one point where MacOS is the weakest. Its UI is horribly clunky and slows down any real power user extremely.
What is the solution? Have both layouts ( 1 - TopBar + Dock or 2 - Taskbar ) as a selectable option for a user to choose.
That is something even some Linux distros (I think Zorin OS is the best example) gave as an option to their users.
But Apple and Microsoft are stuck in their ways and won't budge, because that is something that every big company does.
They make a decision and even if it is the worst decision they ever made, they won't back down on it, because it will make them look weak.
So stop with this "it's the way it is and that's the best" nonsense, allow users to have a choice and be done with it.
Current system is shit.
I laughed so hard my stomach hurt! I went through similar and a bunch of other issues with my M1 McBook Air... In the end I came to the same conclusion as you. I work on a Windows PC and when I travel I use a Mac. Fortunately or unfortunately, I don't travel often. Thank you for this video :)
Yep, that's the best case scenario. Traveling with a macbook is amazing because of the battery life. For daily work, hell no, and anyone who says they do use a mac daily don't really do any actual work because as we all know video editing is NOT real work
yeah they suck for daily work, even for travel i couldnt
2:20 - Drag and drop onto windows brought up by hovering over Dock icons: The secret is to wait until the blue highlight around the entire Premiere window disappears, then drop the item. If there were two Premiere windows it would be much more obvious what is happening. It’s subtle when there is only one window, but if you continue hovering for a couple more seconds over the Premiere window you should see it expand slightly larger and it will no longer have a blue border around the entire window. In other words you’re dropping the file at the stage when the Finder is asking you which window to bring into focus as the drop target. It literally just takes about two additional seconds of hovering. I know, it’s confusing because there is only one window so the choice should be obvious. But the drop simply won’t work until you let it “select” the window.
He should also learn what app-expose is, at least enable it.
OMG, why?!
@@hanes2 I honest do not understand why he is still not using expose after 3 weeks. Dock is not for switching between open instances of apps like Windows task bar is...
Also at time stamp 11:53, I do not understand why he had to use the menu bar on the left monitor, not just use the one on the right...
@@crwhhx why would the menu bar behave differently depending on which screen it's on?
For the issue with dragging and dropping into Premier: I noticed the first time that the Premier window was still highlighted (had a blue halo). This means you’re in window selection mode. Wait a little longer and it will “settle” and the halo will go away. Then you’ll be able to drop it. You can also command-tab to Premier while you have files grabbed with a mouse cursor and just drop them in. Not seeing these in the first couple dozen comments, so hoping it they get through and are helpful.
exactly this!
Great tips!
To speed up the process you can also press spacebar instead of waiting. Drag the file to the app icon > press spacebar (skipping the pause) > when the correct window is highlighted, press spacebar again.
With that said, command-tabbing will in most cases be the faster solution.
I don't know if this works in Premiere, but in other applications, you can just drag the file and release it on the app icon in the dock.
Exactly
It is unbelievable how calm he talks about these things. I would explode.
troubles with basic stuff is crazy!
Years of frustration tolerance was built up from using Windows for decades :D Believe me, I use both every week, almost every day, and each has strengths and weaknesses, but Windows annoys me far more.
@@MorningNapalm How does Windows annoy you? By not playing the first two seconds of audio after being silent for 8 seconds on Bluetooth or jack, easily testable using the volume slider?
@@CTimmerman LOL, WHAT? Hahahahaha. That came out of the blue. No, Windows annoys me by being deliberately different and poorly compatible with every other O/S, by being generally of poor quality, by maintaining 17 layers of old, deprecated APIs, by giving us only a 2-pixel border to resize windows with, even on 4k monitors with multiple-thousand DPI mice, and on and on and on and on and on. It is just a steaming pile, which I trust only for playing games on. This is not to say that other O/Ss are perfect, but Windows is, was and will likely always be on the bottom of the pile, by some margin.
@@MorningNapalm Even though my Windows 10 weather info is in F instead of the C it's set to, it didn't require the command line after updating like my Ubuntu the past years and my colleague's MacOS today. Windows has generations of options whereas MacOS requires third party programs and GNU keeps reinventing the wheel. Still, Windows is very slow at accessing file, but Ubuntu also missed audio when waking the audio jack after idling for seconds. At least Windows just works and doesn't cover notification icons with random menu entries. Also, MacOS is the intentionally different one; it's even Apple's slogan. GNU hobbyists just like to copy MacOS at the moment.
I think the struggle you have with MacOS is that most Windows users go into it the with the same preconceptions that all design elements or methods for completing tasks that you use in Windows is universal for all GUI OSes. You would face the same issues going into KDE or Gnome (in the case of Linux). Each GUI has different rules and features that influence the workflow. Sometimes I feel Windows users have the preconception that the Windows approach is the "standard" but in fact all operating systems approach user interactions differently and have their own hang ups. I generally approach any new operating system with the goal of learning how it works not how it mimics another OS.
This
Thank you
Exactly my thoughts too! Very well said!
What is user friendly then? As a Windows user, I'm totally okay that close button appear at left corner instead of right. But it is very confusing when I want to find an application that I just minimized. I need to guess and find it from a dock. iOS definitely is more user friendly than macOS.
Absolutely true. I have used only Mac OS since 2005 and just this year had to use Windows for work for the first time.
Everything about window management on Windows annoys me because to me it’s “wrong”. In reality it just doesn’t match my “standard” and some re-learning is required.
About the "virtual desktops" you said it doesn't make sense when you have multiple real monitors... but Lee, when you have mutliple monitors, mission control doesn't bring all windows to one monitor making all thumbnails all super small like you said. It does that thumbnail thing to each individual monitor and with the windows that are in each corresponding monitor only. Unless, I'm not understanding what you're complaining about regarding mission control and multiple monitors.
I agree that there are some things that Windows does much better and vice versa. I am not a fanboy and there are advantages to both. I own Mac laptops and custom builtmy own PC. I have a windows based storage server. but it seems like you're frustrating yourself by trying to make Mac OS look and behave 100% like Windows does.
Agreed, I have 3 displays for my workflow, and love mission control with multiple desktops, to quickly switch apps.
Have you tried system preferences notifications to get the alerts to auto disappear, or to not display?
Also I agree you are trying to Mac macOS work like windows and that is going to be super frustrating.
One of the thing macOS expects is that you will use gestures, either on a track pad or touch enabled mouse. Gestures speed up window switching, for example, I generally have five or so desktops on each of my 3 screens. I hover over a screen and and two finger swipe left or right tow switch desktops, or swipe up to see all desktops and jump to the one I want. It’s super quick but completely different than what I have to do on windows.
One of the reason you might be getting freezing or other menu issues might be conflicts between all the apps that have been installed to make it work like windows. I’d uninstall some of them to see if the issues go away, just in case.
System preferences auto updates, change to ask before updating.
Hit me up if you have questions I might be able to help without the frustration of dealing with the internet.
Like an American going to a foreign country expecting everyone to speak English to them
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“there are things that windows does better”…well not window handling, Windows is absolute trash when it comes to switching between windows or apps, dragging things between apps, opening files in apps etc. its absolutely horrible, and no one ever can convince me its not, im raging everyday when i stop working on my work macbook and go to my desktop windows pc for my freelance work.
its not going to work when you try to make windows out of mac os. you mac os as the way just it is
@@x340x could that be anything to do with specification and age of the Windows PC and space on drives?
Windows does have a habit of writing large temp files, as do most apps. You'd be shocked at the number of PC (and Mac!) users who leave their Photoshop cache file on the boot drive (which the OS is writing to all the time), run out of space and then wonder why Photoshop isn't responding! Despite the clarity given in the manual on the importance of a RAID 0 or 10 internal second drive for cache and even in Photoshop's options!
A bit late with the conversation but as a dev who regularly switches between Mac and PC. I practiced using gestures on touchpad. I also set up hot corners. It made my life easier. FYI, those 3rd party apps that make your MacBook feel like Windows desktop chugs too much resources which will eventually beat up your device. These apps only prey on us, users that transitioned from PC. Either deal with what Apple gave you (and practice) or just go back to PC.
lol that was bossy. You work for Apple?
Tbh it’s insane to make us „practice“. Is this the intuitive os we talk about ?
Tough decisions.
Pros of Macbooks:
- Apple ecosystem coordination.
- Fast without heating due to M1 CPU
- Great for iPhone app development.
- Great for Java, Javascript, and Adobe development.
- Great sound system for DJs.
- Great image display.
- 1080p camera for interviews or team meetings.
Pros for PCs:
- Usually less expensive.
- Easier to customize.
- More suited for logical minded people (Windows 7 and 10).
- Easy use of Windows office apps
- Easy for Powershell, Android, and .Net programmers.
- Easy to use for Power BI graphs 📊.
- Easy to use for Azure or GCP cloud services.
I am definitely a Mac fanboy (I admit it), and when I was issued a Windows laptop by my school, I have found myself swiping with three fingers left and right to change between desktops/windows, and it doesn’t work. I have to manually click the task view and choose the desktop I want to view.
@@SylveonMujigaeOfficial First of all, desktops and windows are two different things, at least in Windows world. Second of all, three fingers are for swiping through windows. four fingers to swipe through desktops, if you've opened multiple desktops.
Lee.. like you I’m a long term windows “power” user. My ex (a high level programmer with IBM, is a Mac fan, despite (because of) her work predominantly on windows machines. Sharing this background so the following comes to you with perspective…. My ex got me working on Mac back in 2009. Like you I hated it for all the reasons you’ve note. HOWEVER…. slowly, over time I began gravitating to Mac for certain activities (I have an iMac on my desk, opposite my multi-monitor PC set up). Put simply, windows is as flaky with multi-monitor dongle set up (I run 4 connected direct to graphics card, plus 2 by USB to HDMI dongles). Anyway… here’s my take-away… as I’ve become used to the Mac was of doing things I now see tons of things I hate in Windows. Basically the strengths of one system make the flaws of the other insanely apparent, so much so that I now kinda hate both. And I now treat my computer systems like my camera systems (I use Canon for event, Fuji for lifestyle and Sony for video). Use Mac more and focus on its strengths and I think you’ll come to similar confusions. Whether you want to introduce that complexity at the cost of your leaning curve is, we’ll, up to you. For me the choice is Mac for personal and creative; windows for work and finance. Hope this helps you.
I’ve used both systems a lot, I’ve owned Mac systems on and off and HEAVILY used Bootcamp on them because of specific software and some games. I agree with you, I’ve also come to hate both, they both have infuriating arbitrary limitations or unfixed bugs that have been there for years, but clearly both have their strengths. With windows it usually comes with compatibility, customisability, everything we already know. And Mac is just a more streamlined, stable user experience (until it’s not-good luck troubleshooting! But it’s still worth it imo, there’s nothing quite like Mac OS)
Absolutely right both systems have issues and good things, Im an Mac user for graphic design and Photography and is very nice for this area but some other things is better Windows side, as you are a Windows heavy user there are some small things that you mentioned that are very easy to solved but the point is you are new to the system so you need to know more about it like the sleep monitor thing you can download Caffeine software and stop sleeping the Macbook permanently, and changing apps with cmd tab and lots of shortcuts but just for Mac is like a Mac user coming to Windows also the same thing.
I think this is basically my story. I got a Mac for work. Hated it for a year. About 2 years after getting it (and having to give it up after a year of having - because I moved positions), I bought my own personal MBP.
I have a nice Windows PC that I play games on - but if I want to do almost anything else, I grab my MBP. I even sold my old MBP for a new M1 Max one (probably a stupid waste of money... but sometimes I do things I shouldn't *shrugs*)
Lmao it's very odd and funny to see people growing to hate both environments
Very diabolical lol
@@haberdasherrykr8886 Totally! Quirk of our personalities I guess. Sub-conclusion I came to is (1) ignorance is bliss, and (2) stick with what you know. Comparison = Frustration.
I"m not sure this is the right approach: learning a new OS trying to make it fit the way your old OS works. I understand the desire to move to a new OS without too much trouble (trying to do everything the same way) however in trying to do so you may miss out on some cool features. I liked your review in general because that is what is a natural impulse when moving to a new OS. thanks for sharing
EXACTLY
Try windows and say this again
Linux users don't agree
@@mickyjamesalvin8578 as someone who uses both, i prefer mac for creative work.
I'm OS neutral and try to see the best in each platform...but to be honest macOS feel much more like old school 1990's Unix than something modern with "cool features". Windows and Linux has evolved over time at a much faster rate than macOS. It's like macOS went out of it's way not to adopt new features because Windows and Linux got there first.
I know this is an older video but, this reminds me of my transition to MacOS from windows. I am a power user and had used windows exclusively for a good 15 years, then work switched to Macs. I was a mess for about 6 month plus, I couldn't figure out how to do things I did everyday, and I was always finding a way to make my Mac look and work like windows. Eventually, I started to understand and become a Mac power user, when I stopped trying to do things the windows way. Now I am in the opposite camp, I sit at a windows machine trying to swipe my fingers in all directions trying to move windows around or flip screens or even just delete emails and get frustrated at the lack of what I would call quality of life gestures. If I had any advice it would try to go all in and not half way, the issues your having in each of these videos is pretty much just trying to do windows things on a Mac and not learning the Mac thing to do. I will say there is one thing I never let go of in my transition and that was the scroll direction of a mouse, I still just toggle that "natural" setting off. Keep it up, I enjoyed this little series.
I get exactly what you're saying!! I used to be a mac only user and now I'm hybrid between them and there's so many things where you just have to remember the operating systems are inherently different. Like right now I'm at the part in the video where he's frustrated by navigation between windows on the mac and I just want to grab him and be like DUDE! USE HOT CORNERS! USE GESTURES! USE MULTIPLE DESKTOPS YOU CAN SLIDE BETWEEN!! like the problems he's having could easily be solved with a hot corner to show mission control, a hot corner to show all open windows of a single app, and to learn about the command+tab feature and he'd be golden. But because Apple doesn't make those capabilities immediately obvious to a user who doesn't already know they exist he's stuck manually shuffling through all his apps and getting annoyed that it's not behaving like windowsos. When in reality it was never intended to function that way in the first place because it had other methods!
Even after just trying to get a good workflow going with an M1 Air I think finding the "Mac way" is the way to go. I was struggling with fullscreen apps until I realized that by "full screen" Apple really means "open this in a new desktop and fill it". What I'd really wanted to do was just to hide the dock and maximize the Window. A few settings changes later (and after installing Magnet and customizing some shortcuts) I was able to get things going the way I wanted.
@@stillmattwest The mouse gestures are part of the mac way. So there are a couple that I use all day. In system preferences > Trackpad under More Gestures... All of those. Four Finger swipe Up to see all windows, or four finger down to see all windows of only the one application, and four fingers left and right to switch desktops... Those are a must to learn and use. I just keep all windows open all the time and learn how to flip between then easier. Another big one that is hidden and absolutely amazing, is three finger move a window. This allows you to put your pointer on the main bar of a window and with three fingers touching the track pad move it around (replaces click and drag). This is found in System Preferences > Accessibility > Pointer Options (on the left) > Trackpad Options > Enable Dragging (three finger drag)... Amazing Option.
@@SoundMarsh I'm still trying to get used to them on the laptop (making progress!) but the real issue is when I'm plugged in to an external monitor and my laptop is closed in its dock. At that point, you need keyboard shortcuts.
@@stillmattwest or get the Magic Trackpad 2 ;)
I randomly stumbled on your video. I kind of enjoyed seeing this perspective again. I was actually like you. I was a huge Windows/PC fanboy for most of my early young adult life. One day I found myself buying a Macbook off of someone because it was a really good deal and I planned on flipping it. After I took it home, I figured I'd mess with it and explore what was to me at the time, the "Unknown". I was mainly a Mac hater because it wouldn't play my games, and I watched a lot of youtube that was very much anti Apple. But after getting to use the Macbook and getting to know it better.... I kind of liked it. It was different sure. And there was a lot to learn. But I really liked the machine. It did a lot of things well. After I sold it I realized I wanted another one. Possibly to keep. After a few Macbook/Macbook Pro flips I ended up with a 27in iMac as my work computer. Fast forward 10 years, I still have that same 2011 iMac 27in. It still works great. But I still have my monster gaming PC at home. After 12 years of running both Windows and MacOS machine and using them daily I have to say... I like them both for various reasons. I should note though that I do think you're going about this the wrong way. You're trying to do things a specific way that Windows does them, and then getting a bit upset when MacOS does them a different way. This is similar to owning a Ford Fusion for many years, then getting upset that the new BMW 5 series sedan you're driving has the A/C buttons in a different location than in the Fusion. You just need to take the time to figure out the quirks instead of relying on muscle memory. Anyway, this video just kind of brought me back to when I went through this for the first time. It's good content!
No, it’s similar to owning a Ford Fusion for many years, then getting upset that the new BMW 5 series sedan you’re driving does not have A/C buttons at all (AC turns on automatically just the way Tim Cook programmed it), lacks cruise control and has no ability to change tyres because they are welded to the car from the factory (for better “safety” and “integration”, of course). And the only way to change them is to replace your car or visit an Apple shop to replace it for 1/3 of the car’s initial price.
@@alex.maxwell That’s an overblown and exaggeration of how an operating system works buddy. MacOS isn’t like that
@@alex.maxwell alright chief relax
Well said! I've used both Macs and PCs simultaneously for most of my life and they both have their pros and cons, quirks, differences. I love and hate them for different reasons but you can't expect one to be like the other.
same here man, we need to learn to enjoy the best of both worlds
You need to go to mission control and uncheck displays have separate spaces. This eliminates the need to click the display before interacting with the window on that display in most cases. And great videos. Exactly my experience when switching to Mac after years of using and building PCs. I don’t regret the switch when I try to go back to windows.
Tried that. But when you do a full screen on video it blacks out the second monitor
@@FStoppers but each monitor has its own menu bar…
@@FStoppers yeah, but as you mention with multiple screens, why Full Screen any app - expand to the full size of one screen like you talk about in an earlier video (option-click on green button) this will make the menu behaviour more consistent and obvious - only the active application will show in the menu bar. (although it will only then have the menubar on one of the screens - which may be annoying for some people as well)
"Displays as different Spaces" is good if you only use a single screen, but I find inconsistencies when trying to use 2+ screens with spaces. I go way back as a Mac user - over 25 years - Making an app fullscreen didn't use to black out the 2nd screen, was really annoying when they started doing that (can't remember which version for sure - maybe around MacOS Lion in 2011) For sure one thing that I don't like.
One more trick with multiple apps or windows open especially on multiple screens - you can "Command-Click" on inactive windows or buttons/controls to send the click or drag through to the background app without activating it. (you can drag windows to reposition them this way, as well as playing or pausing videos and more). You can also scroll background windows with the cursor over them using the trackpad (or scroll wheel). There used to be some 3rd party apps that would give a more Unix like behaviour of whatever the cursor is over, becomes the active app, not sure if they still are possible.
Windows is "window centric" in UI philosophy, each window is a separate process. macOS is "Application centric" so the dock & menu bar shows the current active app, and the Window menu always shows a list of all open windows for that app. (or right-click/click & hold on the dock icon to also show a list of all open windows for that particular app). for MacOS you command-tab to switch between apps, and other shortcuts (usually command-`) to switch between windows within an app. There are advantages and disadvantages of both philosophies. Windows 10 showing only the active windows in the start bar on each screen is a huge improvement over earlier windows, something new I learned watching your videos. One advantage to the dock is once it is setup the way you want, the position of the icons remain the same (at least on the left side of the dock) so no hunting around through a bunch of icons in the bottom - I find myself in windows using alt-tab more than the start bar - although in MacOS I don't use the dock all that often - either command-tab or click on window.
Check your System Preferences -> Trackpad -> More Gestures - you may find "App Expose" useful to be turned on if it isn't already. - This will show only the windows from the active app, instead of all apps.
You don't mention it in this video, but Activity Monitor shows disk & network traffic speeds if you haven't seen that from any one else (There are some UI changes to make it more useful - View Menu -> Update Frequency to 1 second, and in the Disk & Network windows, change the graph to show Data instead of IO & Packets) - that is one area Windows improved was to be able to show the actual copy speeds of file copies (I think that was added in Vista). There are also 3rd party utilities like iStat Menus, and probably more (I used to use a utility called NetStatInDock early in MacOS X - but it was abandoned)
Sorry this got kind of long.
The idea that displays have their separate spaces, and that this concept is a default behavior is very troubling to my windows mindset. Why on earth would a display have it's own space, and what is a space anyway? This makes no sense to a Windows user.
@@FStoppers dont you have a seperate task bar for file-> something on each monitor? So going to the other monitor is not "intended" use?
It's been interesting watching a windows user go through Mac, and I'm just want to say sometimes like you're trying to get Mac to do windows things that just don't make sense. Still great to see how differently people use each OS and even differently within a particular OS.
At 11:56 when you are trying to send the timeline to export it didn't work because you didn't have the timeline selected in Premiere. This is not a window issue with Mac but just how Premiere works to tell it that you want to export a timeline. You can see in the video the Effect Controls panel is selected when you try to do the export and is indicated by the blue box around that panel.
Switching between applications: Hold Command + Tab to switch between applications.
Switching between windows in a an application: Hold Command + Tilde to switch between windows in same app.
Switch between tabs in window: Hold Control + Tab.
If you really want to use the dock to see what windows are open: Click and hold on app icon / Show All Windows. This will only show the windows of that application and show them on the respective screen that you have them on.
wow this is cool!
Using keyboard shortcuts to switch easily between applications? That isn’t intuitive at all.
@@__Mr.White__ You must not have ever used it. Windows has a very similar feature, just a different keys. It's faster than moving a mouse to click on the application. But everyone has their own preferred methods. Sounds like you need to try somethings out before you say what's a good workflow and what's not.
@@brandonmenneke I already tried it. Just for 2 weeks to be honest. I couldn't longer stand it. As they guy in the video said, some things are just so mind blowingly stupid, that for some people it's not worth the hassle.
@@__Mr.White__ Well if this is your first Mac then I wish you the best and hope you find something that works for you.
I’m enjoying this experiment. As a Mac user for about ten years I both love and hate the MacBook at the same time.
You’re absolutely right when it comes to Adobe Premiere, in fact, it’s not just with Premiere, it’s with almost all of the Adobe lineup. I’ve come to the conclusion that Adobe is stuck in its old ways, and when presented with hardware that could help to make their software the best in class, they just fall short. Every. Single. Time.
How can Apple’s Final Cut run so well when Adobe’s platform can’t? Adobe, in my opinion, just doesn’t have what it takes to write good code.
I’ve experienced the same crashes as you. The whole system software grinds to a halt. It’s very, very rare that the system does this on its own, as it only seems to happen when I have Premiere or Lightroom open. They simply suck.
Anyway, it’s come as no surprise to me that you’re experiencing poor performance with Premiere. They should be embarrassed to put out bad software time and time again. Please don’t confuse my views as defending the MacBook, I get as equally frustrated with some things but at the same time I love it for other reasons. Adobe is just the worst.
I loathe Adobe Premiere. As there is no way they optimized that for Macs... And their plugins are shit....I had to switch...Final Cut Pro....As the plugins work every time. And every 3rd party plugin pack I bought. They are optimized for use in Final Cut and they work perfect.
I would add. Final Cut upgrades are free. You pay the $400.00 US once and that is it...Same for Logic Pro....None of this pay every year subscription shit.
And try to install Adobe on a new PC. I dare you..They will make you walk on fire. To prove you're not boot legging it...
I wonder if he even used the migration tool from Windows to Mac....It sure would have been faster...
And the Terminal window on MAcs is so powerful. I suggest he learn to use it. As command line drive is the way to fix lots of issues. Without buying any 3rd party applications. As he paid to see his transfer speeds. It's Fking free. If you understand Unix\Linux terminal...
As I been a Windows User for 35 years. As an IT engineer. I just been using a Mac Mini to learn the system 2 months ago. And it's a powerful machine. If you spend time learning new things everyday. As in the Time Machine auto backups were eating up huge chunks of storage. And everybody said buy Clean My Mac..I used the terminal window to delete those snap shots. Then unchecked Auto Backup in Time Machine. Problem solved.
@@WizzRacing Neither Clean My Mac nor Terminal is the right way to reduce the number of Time Machine snapshots. You should do that by changing Time Machine’s settings to make fewer snapshots in the first place, which can be done using the tmutil CLI.
That being said, I wouldn’t do that. Time Machine uses APFS snapshots, which are basically designed to utilize any free space you have. They automatically get removed if more space is needed, which is why the OS will often fold that into “Free” space. Think of it like caching files in RAM: it technically means there is less free RAM, but anything that needs the extra memory will just kick out the files.
Been a Windows user for almost my entire work life, like a decade and a half. I am a tech nerd, computer science, I build my own PCs, I like to do DIY solutions to help my productivity routines on Windows, etc... When I switch to Mac, Like Lee, the beginning was a lot of frustration. But then I realized I was expecting Mac OS to work exactly like Windows. Then the switch became a *transition*, which at least for me lasted almost a month. Of course, there were plus and minuses. I do miss things that I got accustomed with Windows. But the things that I gained with the switch greatly outweigh those bits. I can honestly say I am more productive after the switch to Mac than I was with Windows. I can focus on things that matter more, and less on things that have nothing to do with my routine. Free OS updates? Not bad. All I can say is that the whole experience with the MacOS is an enabler.
I've been a Mac user for years but I also kept using a desktop Windows computer alongside my macbook pro. When I first bought a Mac I was amazed how much better than Windows was (at the time there was Windows Xp or Vista version which I hated so much). But time has passed and I think Mac OS progressed very little if not at all, while Windows improved dramatically. Now I still use a Mac because I love the overall experience, but Windows is way better in usability now.
There is definitely something true in your point of view. What I think is you're approch is wrong. Like when you learn another language you don't just translate word by word from your native language to the other but you need to change drastically your way of thinking and the structure of the sentence to have something that sounds "natural" and not google translate.
My point is that, to get the best out of Mac OS you have to forget the way you are use to do things and learn the new ways. Making Mac os acting like windows will not work.
Most of the things you are complaining are based on your habits with windows and the way you are used to work with that.
My best advice would be embrace the Mac os system if you want to stick with it and change your habits, or just stick with Windows OS.
P.S try keep pressing "command" and then press "TAB" multile times to swap between application windows.
It's the easier way for me. You don't need to touch the mouse and the most recent app used are always the first.
Also, Cmd+H to hide apps comes in really handy on Mac. I basically never minimised windows when i was a Mac user
This is such a mac response. I have used both. Windows for a couple of decades and Mac for the last 4 years or so. There are some things which are just harder on the Mac and they should adopt those features. And give people the ability to customise some specific things. Windows users know that some things suck on Windows but Mac users struggle to have that discussion. His feelings most windows users that have moved to macs will appreciate.
@@ogidy001 I'm a Mac and Windows user. I use Mac at home and windows at work. I constantly switch between the two and to get peace of mind you have to work differently when you work on each of them. My point is also valid in the opposite situation, Mac users that change to windows.
My all point is that you cannot fight the OS logic. Of you try to make it work with your logic you lose.
A better strategy is to understand the OS logic and get the best out of it.
There are things that MacOS cannot do, that there is no reason why it is not a thing yet, other than pure stubbornness. For example having preview windows on the dock icon. I can right click to see other open instances of the same app but if I don't remember the name of the exact window I want I left to guess, Windows has been doing this since Win7. Another thing that has been a thing since Win7 and is on linux is snapping windows. How is this not a thing? It really should not be that hard especially seeing that there are 3rd party apps that do it. Another thing is file transfer speeds, why, why is it not a thing? Make the default how it is now but add the option to view it there is literally no real reason no not have it.
@@cheddar07 We can do the same game of what is on Mac and why window cannot do that.
Colour tag on finder. It's on Mac os since I can remember. I use it a lot to mark files I need to backup or transfer. Why window cannot do that?
File Preview with space-bar.
I use it 99% of the time instead of open any picture, audio or video player. It's the thing I miss most when I work on windows. I tried third party app and it kind of works but it's very lagging. On Mac it's instantaneous.
There many things that window cannot do the same as Mac os and vice versa.
I daily drive macOS and love it. That said, I really appreciate you pointing out the problems you personally found. In particular, the issues with multiple monitors drives be bat-poop crazy. REALLY frustrating not being able to interact with an application on another monitor without first focusing something on that monitor. Hopefully, the truly fair public critiques will help make someone at Apple take notice. Thank you sir!
If’s literally one click.
lol. you think apple is gonna solve your, problems? think again XD
I haven't ever used Macs for a large enough time to face these problems, but some of these problems you mention are major head scratchers. A lot of these issues you point out are really valid and Apple should consider taking your feedback.
1. Mac is not a windows replacement. It does things differently. Get with it, or get out of it.
2. With all the add-on’s that you’ve installed, it makes sense it’s crashing all the time. I’ve used both, and I don’t see mine crash nearly as much.
Agreed. The add ons to make it behave like windows are likely causing it crash. Great to see all the annoyances. Some of your points Leigh are valid (file transfer speed ! That stunned me a decade ago, I made peace with it but you are right about that. Very likely the add ons are struggling with Monterey OS. Hang in there. Pye is right. Hopefully Adobe listen and make their software fly reliably on the M1
You seem to conveniently ignore the reason he installed add-ons: because MacOS UX is shit.
Thanks a lot for this series! Everyone else is talking about the battery, the screen, the price and other generic features aside performance which can easily be read from the product specification. But these kind of real-world usage scenarios and comparison which you have covered are rarely talked about. Such information is invaluable for making informed decisions on getting new tech or switching ecosystems. Well done on keeping your opinions objective and explaining the rationale. Thank you for going through with this and sharing your experiences!
It’s not really real world usage if the person has only been using the platform for a month. If they’re a Windows user for life it could hardly be described as unbiased (especially as barely any positives mentioned!). Operating systems all have their quirks, your brain rewires itself to deal with them. Once you get used to Mac features Windows is equally infuriating, I could go on for hours about that (having used both regularly). A truly unbiased comparison would surely come from a regular user of both systems.
@@btn237 I agree! I use both daily (actually started on Windows before moving to mostly Mac) and Windows is a nightmare!
@@asdf5341 I think Windows have become so much better. In fact I am facing basic issues in MAC which I have never faced in Windows.
After plugging in everything to my laptop (monitor, keyboard, etc.), and not taking it anywhere, I realize that I'm a desktop user. Having said that, I'm perplexed at why Apple users never seem to have issues. In 20 years, this is there first person who actually critiqued MBP. MBPS: _They just work._ But, apparently, they don't.
This was a great video. I've used Windows since the 3.1 days although I primarily use Ubuntu and other Linux distros now. I did just break down and pick up an M1 Macbook Air the other day and I spent all of today trying to establish a good workflow with it, so I feel your pain.
Well, some of your pain. I'm a coder, not a creator, so the software I use is much less demanding. I'm also something of a minimalist when it comes to open applications so I never really have trouble finding where I left things. I also use a single ultrawide monitor rather than multiple monitors, so I can echo back that it's a better workflow for macOS (and Ubuntu, for that matter). I'm also used to using a dock and don't have a problem with it.
Ultimately, I agree with your assessment of Macs. Hardware-wise, since the advent of the M1, they are 2-3 years ahead of the competition. OS-wise, they are 2-3 years behind. macOS is the clunkiest of the three major operating systems and it's been that way for a while now. Magnet is a great example. Sure, it works for window management, but that should absolutely be built into macOS. Ubuntu is a free operating system and they figured it out. Apple has no valid excuse for failing in that regard.
There is a lot I like about the Air. Once I had it set up and working well I could really sit back and enjoy the superior hardware quality and the ridiculous amount of power those machines pack for their pricepoint. They compare well against laptops twice their price and all without even having a fan. That's amazing.
I'll close by saying I get really jealous of all you TH-camrs having an excuse to buy a ton of different computers. I have no such excuse and it hurts me.
I hope we will be able to connect 2 external monitors to a macbook air after m2 is out.
Become a content creator for 1 week....you're welcome!
@@TechieTard I'm sure it would take me more than one week just to make a decent practice video.
I love this! Mac user without being a fan boy.
The MBA is crazy expensive here in the EU, even the M1 Base model. You'll probably end up at $1700-$2100 (higher end is m2, but there's not that much of a price difference between m1 and m2) if you don't want the base model.
I used a Mac for most of my life, but switched to Windows a while ago. Part of the reason was that for work I use a lot of programs that are only available on Windows, so I was having to run Windows anyway. The other reason was that it seemed like Apple stopped making any real updates to Mac OS. I can't remember the last time they have shown off a new version that had a feature I thought was useful. They sure do spend a lot of time reskinning it though! I really hope that Apple will have their Mac team sit down and go over the usability and productivity portions of Mac OS seriously. The dock came out over a decade ago and they haven't made any substantial updates to it since! It is hard to believe that no one at Apple has realized how antiquated it is.
I completely agree with you. The sentence "it seemed like Apple stopped making any real updates to Mac OS" says it all. At the same time, Windows improved a lot in usability over the years.
I've got an iPad Pro, iPhone, Apple Pencil...I'm not a complete curmudgeon. I don't do video editing (I'm print oriented) so the 2011 27" iMac (with dual monitors, SSD, scads of memory, and a CalDigit dock) gets the job done. And because I don't need or want to rent software, I'm still in Mavericks using CS4 apps.
But I do keep my eye on the newer operating systems and have booted often into High Sierra. But at the end of the day - other than the reskinning and blending iOS into the MacOS - what you said should be chiseled in marble: "it seemed like Apple stopped making any real updates to Mac OS."
I love playing around with the latest and greatest technology. But other than software compatibility, I see little reason to use the snazziest new MacOS because it's not fundamentally better. The Dock is a perfect example. It hasn't been significantly improved, almost from day one. And I think this gentleman at Fstoppers has pointed out just how fundamentally flawed the Dock is.
And, yes, the "click on window first in order to do anything" is nut-driving for me as well. Nothing said in this presentation offended me as a Mac user since the late 80's. I wish Apple would employ him on their UI team.
Finder is even worse. A file management interface that most of the world gave up on in the 1990's. Every time I think I could switch to MacOS, using Finder to manage files on the network reminds that isn't possible. Really, it's Xtree vs. Midnight Commander all over again.
@@logaandm …Huh? I manage files on my NAS all the time, unless that’s not the kind of thing you’re talking about.
@@AndreaIT85 you say that like windows ten didn’t also not get updated for almost 5+ years
After 20+ years as a Windows user (I started with Win3.1), it took me three months to really get to like macOS. Now I love it and only use Windows for gaming.
What did you struggle with the most?
Exactly my experience, except I don't game anymore.
@@dima10656 for me was:
1) move windows with shortcuts/dragging to the side (you can solve it with magnet app)
2) don't have file path on finder (it's not a default function but you can enable it)
3) preview doesn't move to the next photo if you press arrow key.
4) can't drag and drop selected text on browser
5) microsoft office has bugs with tables (sometimes a withe line appear near the edge of colored cells, sometimes one edge is thicker...)
but i will never go to windows again
@@shining359 don't use preview, just press "space bar" on the picture/video you want to quicklook then press arrow to move to next picture (work better in list view) press space bar again to quit, drag and drop selected text on browser work (firefox) not sure why it doesn't work for you.. never used Microsoft office can't help with that one.
@@DNdavidsonsnation thank you, i know it 😉
"Once you go mac you never come back"
Hey! So my two cents on viewing multiple instances of an application on macOS. The three-finger swipe down while using any application actually brings up a mission control type view of all instances open of that particular application (plus shows the minimised instances in smaller tiles at the bottom as well).
Additionally, if you mouse over any icon in the dock and do a three-finger swipe down when your cursor is over an icon, it will again bring up the same kind of mission control type view for that particular application. (I honestly have no idea how this would work with multiple monitors, never tried it).
Personally, I've been using Ubuntu for my work primarily. I did get to use macOS for a couple of years recently and actually loved it . Felt like a great middle ground between Ubuntu and Windows, but then again I write code so we are naturally biased towards Unix based operating systems haha.
2:10 When dragging files to an app you don't need to do the extra step of dragging to the window after dragging to the dock. Just drag to the dock and let go, done (power tip: you can also drag to icons while holding down command-tab). The application is supposed to know what to do with that file and open it or add it to its library, whatever. Not all programs do this correctly and Adobe products are notorious for getting this wrong. But dragging video files to the dock icon of Premiere and letting go should do it. Power tip 2: If that doesn't work you can "force open" by holding down command-option just before you let go of the mouse button hovering over the icon. That'll force the app to try to open the file even if it thinks it doesn't recognize the file type. Sometimes this results in an error if the program really can't open the filetype or can't figure out the file type.
One of the main issues concerning the freezing, is that some apps are still not fully Arm compatible. This is not excusing the Mac, but there is a reason why these are still not perfectly fluid. One thing I have yet to experience on my Mac is a complete desktop lock out or BSOD. Sometimes an app may freeze up, but my Mac is still useable while that app gets its sh1t together in the background. In the last year of using my Intel Macbook and the new M1 Max Macbook, I can't remember a single time when I had to hold the power button to reset it, while both my Windows laptop and desktop have had to be force reset at least a dozen times. You mileage may vary, but I have been satisfied with how MacOS handles any software glitches.
What about finder freezing? Finder should be fully compatible thoo
I think it could have been the dock application doing strange things.
But it could be a finder problem.
Just saying because I can’t remember the last time finder crashed on me.
had numerous bsod on m1 MacBook, instead of blue it was black screen lol and system restarted. m1 MacBooks didn't play nicely with big sur. new macOS version is way better and stable.
** I just realized this video is over 6 months old. I hope by now you've figured all of this out, but in case there's anyone new reading this, let me try and help you.
1. You've been using a PC for decades so you're used to it. Now, you're leaning an entirely new operating system and you expect to be proficient at it in a few weeks. Give yourself a break and be patient. You not only have to learn a new operating system, you have to *unlearn* the old one. It takes time.
2. Most of the issues you're having can be solved with simply learning how the operating system works. Those videos your grandma watches are the same videos you'd watch if you were learning on a PC for the first time. For example, the cut & paste issue you're having was solved by learning what the shortcut is. The reason you can't cut and paste something like you can on Windows is so you don't move a file accidentally. The same goes for your multiple monitor issue. Did you know you can set up different desktops *for each monitor* you have? I *highly* suggest going onto the Apple website and simply read the full keyboard shortcut list. It will be eye opening.
Conclusion: Switching from a PC to a Mac isn't like going from a convertible to a Jeep, it's like going from a car to a boat. You just need to learn the controls. Be patient; know that you're learning something new. I wish you all good things.
Thank you for this!
Thanks
I actually switched to a Mac from Windows for 6 years. Then the Mac died and I went back to Windows. Oh man, it just is such a superior OS. Oh I am a tech savvy power user
@@rickbarrington you mean win being the superior system or macos?
I think this is an oversimplification. Of course there are always going to be things that are roughly equal, but just different. But there will also be things that are just objectively better.
Windows management in windows is objectively better. You’re right in saying that it’s different, but it’s also better. Just one example, the alt+tab switcher in windows optionally allows you to include browser tabs in it. In other words, if your workflow involves mail.app, zoom, vscode, and 3 web apps (in their own tabs) all 6 of those appear in alt+tab in MRU order. Trying to work like this in macOS is both different ( like you said) but also objectively worse because the number of keystrokes and actions you need to take is way higher. And imagine if your web apps are spread across actual different browser instances.
In windows, alt+tab until you get to that tab. In MacOS cmd+tab to your browser, CMD+~ to get to the other instance of that app, figure out if it’s faster to CTRL+tab or CTRL+shift+tab (because the safari tab switching isn’t MRU) and then potentially CTRL+ shift+tab multiple times. Then cmd+tab back to mail and hope that it didn’t go to the main mail window otherwise another cmd+~ to switch to the compose window.
Even at a base level, the entire concept of needing to think whether you need to cmd+tab or cmd+~ is something that windows completely alleviates you of.
I've been a windows user all my life, and I had to move to macOS due to my new job.... Afer a year, this guy has the exact words that I've been looking for to describe my transition exprience... Yes. Macs are awesome... But my real personal laptop, will still being a windows machine.
it's because you're trying to use a mac like a windows machine. they're different and work different. if you start using the mac the way it's made to be used you'll be more annoyed with your windows laptop when you go back to it. I switched to a mac 4 years ago because I needed to for work (unix based was needed) and whenever I go back to my windows PC I get so frustrated that the things I can do with gestures and short cuts just do nothing in windows.
@@atomictyler As someone that is thinking of moving to the Apple ecosystem, I can't believe how poorly designed macs are when you try to use then with multiple screens. How the hell can you be productive with only one screen? And the dock seems useless.
@@atomictyler that's nonsense. By use a mac like a mac you mean stop trying to do common sense things that make sense, and make the user experience better? Or you could... I don't know... Put useful features everyone expects into the OS...
Linux does... BSD does... Windows does... Solaris does.... macOS...uSe It LiKe A mAc ReQuIred
@@atomictyler Nope it's because Apple can't fix the basic issues like working with dual monitor etc. There are so many people complaninng about it and it looks like Apple dosen't care. I am also facing audio issues in Google meet in all browsers.
@@drowningin THANK YOU
The absolute worst thing in macOS is the "mistery meat navigation" on the menus, where pressing "option" enables a whole different set of menu entries that you have no idea existed until you press the option button. So every time I have a new software or I need to do something in the finder, I just keep pressing option and releasing it to see what is changing.
wow i didnt know this thanks
@@arthurlaquieze7368 See? That's why it's bad :D
You could reword this from “pressing option enables a whole different set of menu entries” to “pressing option shows you more options”. I think it’s pretty handy, the extra options are usually related to the original option it replaces as well so it’s not like they're just completely random
@@WilliamIsted That's all true, except you don't know that you can press "option" to reveal those options, that's the main issue. I just found about that by chance searching for something on the web, something trivial like how to cut/paste a file in macOS.
The multiple monitor problem with MacOS is why I switched to one 32” curved. All your points are spot on. If there was the same market for making Mac apps like there is for iOS, I think these problems would be resolved rather quickly
Yeah, that means that things are so poorly implemented you had to change out hardware. That's not okay.
As I moved to Mac and macOS, first thing I did: Buy a magazine about what to expect when moving from Windows to macOS. It is a professionally made magazine here in Germany and after reading I never thought about Windows. I’m also a photographer with similar Workflow. Don’t make a Windows Machine out of your Mac! Or stay with Windows, because you seem to have a short fuse…
As a former Windows user, I love some of your observations about MacOS quirks and differences. Most of what you are complaining about are non Apple software issues like Adobe and Chrome. I put up with Chrome, but thankfully, I don't have to use Adobe for my work. I think Adobe is sub-standard software at best and have never preferred it. Thankfully, my dev tools, MS Office, Drawing tools all work without issues. I have a Windows laptop for work, which is a whole other ball of wax. Windows 10 has just finally gotten stable, for the most part, and MSFT is EOLing it for Windows 11, which is currently in "piece of junk" mode. Linux is good for certain things, but I have to flow back and forth between Windows and the MacOS and after 30+ years of Windows (v2.01 thru v10+)and 12+ of Mac, I have ended up preferring MacOS.
@@user-pn2xt3jw1i What do you mean?
I've tried safari as I switched to Mac to do things the "apple" way. In my very short experience it is actually more unstable than chrome. Gonna stick with it for a lot of time though to really embrace mac and give it a real chance, despite the transition frustration.
@@user-pn2xt3jw1i No, I actually hate using Windows these days. MacOS and Linux are so much better. I choose MacOS because I prefer it’s feature set and logic for the arrangement of it’s tools and functionality.
Copy/paste is not how Mac users move files. Since 1984 we've moved files by dragging icons around in the Finder. Copy/paste was added a few years ago because Windows users kept complaining, but cut was intentionally not added because semantically a cut operation should remove the file immediately. But what happens if you never paste it anywhere? Should it delete the file? Also, how would it paste it if it had been deleted first? The metaphor breaks down. So Apple just doesn't allow it.
BTW, dragging a file from one location to another location on the same filesystem defaults in moving the file, whereas dragging from one filesystem to another results in a copy. But you can force a copy in either case by holding down the option key, or force a move by holding down the command key. (Holding both option and command results in an alias being created instead.)
I made the switch a few years ago, and I too had many of the same frustrations. The key was just to keep at it, and forget what I knew either Windows. Eventually I found myself used to macOS. By adding all of the miscellaneous utilities to make it look like Windows, you really make the experience worse.
I don't see a point in switching either way. I am personally windows user all my life. I'm comfortable in using it and i can do all of my work fast and efficient. Why waste time adjusting to new system when it doesn't bring progress in any way? This all stands if you are a mac user. Why switch to windows when there are no actual benefits like doing work faster and more efficient. At the end of the day, its two sides of the same coin.
The takeaway is that last sentence, Mac really isn’t made to work smoothly with third-party utilities that try to replace basic aspects of the OS-that’s why that taskbar replacement constantly froze
@@chiefrebelangel817 in my case, it's because of the software. You can not develope iOS app on windows, or run C# stuff on MacOs. Maybe someone wanna use something Mac only like finalcut, or Windows only like some games. Or some hardware feature. There are a lot of reasons.
@@chiefrebelangel817 Sometimes it comes down to specific hardware/software that you might want to use. I originally switched to a MacBook Pro in 2007 because it was just relatively rare to be able to get a well built Windows laptop that was also portable (thin Windows laptops were slow and powerful ones were heavy) and more recently I went from using just a laptop for everything to having a separate custom built Windows desktop and a MacBook Pro because I wanted to get into gaming and I've started preferring dedicated hardware vs virtual machines if I want to run Windows (and on future Apple Silicon Macs I can't really properly run Windows in a VM anyway so just easier to have a separate PC).
Exactly. @Seth
Pye is right: Windows as a desktop, Mac as a portable.
You get the best from both worlds.
my setup too , if for whatever reason i need to use either for a project i can cover it
Exactly!
Yup. Its what I got.
This. Words of wisdom
I was a Windows guy who switched to Mac, despite hating the transition persisted for 6 years. Then my MacBook Pro died and I switched back to a vanilla Lenovo Windows. Man, it feels SO good.
drag & drop is actually possible. You just have to wait a second for the target window to become active. It's a bit annoying
Is this not a "spring loading" option in accessibility that can be changed???
In the Mouse and Trackpad area of the System Preferences, you can either remove or change the length of the “spring-loading delay.” By the way, spring-loading is a great feature!
As others have pointed out, though, you can hit the spacebar while hovering over a window or folder to MANUALLY force the Mac to select that particular window/folder, rather than waiting for it to spring open or messing with the length of the spring-loading delay. Just keep hitting the spacebar as you drill through the folders until you get to the one you want. When the blue outline is gone, let go of the mouse. The files will move. If you’re spring-loading into a Finder window, the folders will all spring shut (and if you used spring-loading to open Finder in the first place, the Finder window itself should spring shut). Then you can go back to whatever you were doing before you decided to move the files.
You can also use Command + Tab to switch between apps quickly and then use Command + ~ to switch between windows within the active app, eliminating the need to use spring-loading, but of course you need to have the window already open to the folder you want.
Or heck, use all of the above! I do. Every single day. No OS is perfect, but even macOS can be fantastically useful and snappy when you learn how it works. 😊
I was using my Mac today and I realized why Windows users tend to minimize windows a lot (something that frankly isn't a great experience on MacOS) and that's because they probably haven't engrained command-h to hide the current app. I do it so automatically that I don't even think about it. CMD-H hides the current app and all its windows, not just the current window. It's vastly superior in almost all cases to minimizing. I use this in place of spaces/virtual desktops. CMD-TAB and CMD-H are my window/application managers.
Absolutely!!!
I'm thinking of trying Mac, so thanks for that. Windows essentially does that by just minimizing the current window with WIN+. Can't live without it!
Hi, there. Congrats on trying this. I used windows and built my PCs for many years, until I switched to Macs completely starting 2012. I love the hardware and love the software, but Mac Os used without third party softwares to improve it, it can be quite frustrating. The multiple display features is still a nightmare and the finder is just a mess. But still, even with that, I can't go back to windows without feeling sick.
To improve my mac experience, I use Pathfinder to replace finder.
It save me so much time with queue copy. And by the way, cut-paste file can be done more easily (even on finder), just drag & drop and move the file to where you want to put it. If you drop your file to another hard-drive, it will copy. If you drop it on the same disk, it will move it. If you want to move (cut/paste) your file for sure, just drag & drop the file wherever you want and holding alt key before.
Another third party i'm using is Hyperdock, in order to see different windows of the same app.
Hope it can help. Mac Os is to me clearly the best computer OS (I'm industrial designer), but still, it's far from perfect (multiple displays is a mess, for example and you should always wait 1 or 2 versions of Mac Os, rather than directly jump to the last version, or suffer many annoying bugs). But still, to my experience, Mac Os goes far & beyond windows UX and UI. At least, so far.
Your version of Mac Os might be the last one available when you did the video, so you got tons of bugs. That is so annoying, reason why I never jump to the last version.
Oh, and I forgot that you can (like on windows) automatically hide the dock. I feel it's more convenient that way.
This confirmed what we knew: don’t try to make macOS be Windows, and Adobe Premiere is still the worst editing software lol
Wrong
@@niklasbl4030what’s wrong?
@@LilJoe3 saying premiere is "the worst editing software" is insane lol and it's one of the most popular softwares for a reason
@@niklasbl4030 I would say it is one of the worst out of the popular video editing software I would much rather use fcp or davinci. One time fee both more optimized, davinci has fusion and color grading in one software
@@niklasbl4030 and the reason is Stockholm Syndrome
editing in adobe premiere: this by itself is a recipe for frustration. Adobe still has not made a decent app for Mac.
Many issues I saw was with Adobe. So ... if you , for whatever reason want to stay on Adobe, wait fro Adobe to make a decent application. It is not Mac's fault. The evidence that the difference in your experience comes from the app developer lies with Davinci.
Regarding the restart just uncheck the autoupdates install.
does Mac has some frustrated things, Sure , no doubt. I blame Apple for not having a thumbnail preview on the dock, or not having a simple indicator for what your copy-paste transfer speed is. And there are others as well. One thing I cannot blame Apple though is Adobe's poor developed apps.
You might never be a MacOS guy, and that is fine.
hey relax, breathe in, breathe out, everything is gonna be ok, apple is fine
@@barbazarr i am not sure what your comment means, but I guess you mean I am a fanboy of Apple. which is by far correct if you had read my comment.
@@John7No good boy ! 😃
Right click the chrome icon to see all your open windows
This content is 10/10. As a heavy user of Linux, Windows and MacOS, I can say there are a lot of frustrations on all fronts. I have resigned to a windows desktop for daily home use, Mac laptop for mobile use and Linux homeserver (this is kinda obvious).
Lee : "it's enfuriating! Makes me mad! How do people not complain about these features? It's a mess"
also Lee : "so I've decided to keep this MacBook..."
😂😂
Well it like hopping into a Race car, and starting complaing that it do not work like a Prius. Some find the PC intuitive and logical, other do find the Mac more intuitiv and logical. Use what is up to your liking, and stop this drama.
I'm willing to bet in the next 5 years, he uses his MBP almost exclusively. It's crazy how many people I know that love these machines (even after hating them initially) a few years later.
Has it crossed anyone's mind here that it's just more content for future
@@psmontte I have the new MacBook Pro but there are a handful of good Windows laptops out there.
@@Palshoej Amen. Windows vs Mac...really? 2001 wants it drama back.
This video sums up why i went back to Windows after having a macbook for 2 years.
I use windows at work but Mac at home. I don’t find it hard bouncing back and forth between the two. My mind just separates the peculiarities of each OS. A lot of premier users now use Divinci resolve. That may be something to consider.
How about shortcuts, doesn’t mess it up your work flow?
@@iThnk2 just muscle memory and training your brain to associate them to each OS-in other words, practice. I know I messed up my shortcuts when I used both but only because I used Mac 80% of the time
Maybe Apple doesn't want to immigrate Windows users to the Apple ecosystem ? Perhaps because then, its fanboys would become Hoi-Poloi?
@@iThnk2 macOS has an absolute ton of shortcuts and you can add them yourself as well. There's also a native option to assign the command functionality to the control button, primarily added for users migrating from Windows or Linux.
@@21N13 I resently got MacBook I did manage to solve few key layout problems with carabiner and new remapable kayboard. But no, shortcuts not that easily transferable as you think:
Enter - not opening file but renaming it (stupid as F).
Backspace doesn't go back in finder , not be able do shift select sequence in icon mode is ridiculous, refreshing page, minimize all windows, and on and on... There is a lot of different shortcut you can't chenge easily.
Thankfully carabiner made life of switching betwen Windows and Mac back and forth less painful.
System Preferences, Notifications, choose "Banners", "None", or disable "Allow Notifications" all together
control/right click app on Dock, Options, "Assign To...", app will always open in that Desktop/Space
never Dock for app switching, CMD+TAB
System Preferences, Mission Control, disable "Automatically rearrange Spaces"
System Preferences, Keyboard, Shortcuts, Mission Control, assign or use shortcut for "Application windows",
or in Mouse/Trackpad preferences assign a shortcut to App Exposé (Exposé is like a Mission Control for windows of the foreground application)
CMD+~, switch between windows of the foreground app
CTL+TAB, switch between tabs of the foreground app
useful when app windows are in different Desktops/Spaces
I don't know if you will read this, as it is an old video, but there is actually a native graphical preview for seeing which window you are clicking on.
1. Go to settings and under trackpad gestures enable app expose. It will be under more gestures
2. Perform this gesture while your mouse is over the icon to see your open windows for just that app.
Also under mission control enable grouping by application.
Hope this helps!
man, i’ve bought that laptop 3 days ago and your video is like watching myself 2 weeks in the future. that thing that you can’t shift select in thumbnail view is bonkers.
I enjoyed the video a lot. Very sensible and unbiased. Keep us updated!
What is shift select? You can quick look with space
@@raheem201231 Selecting multiple items in finder with shift pressed down, it's doable in list view but not thumbnail view for whatever reason
@@Towelie- I have that same problem in windows
As a life long Mac user, I understand the underlying reasons to why things work in a specific way on MacOS. Everything has a reason and it all becomes incredibly intuitive once you know it, since everything works the same way. I've also been trapped into making windows look like MacOS on my school PC, and no, it's not a good idea. Just try to get used to the new way of doing things and you'll be way happier than trying to make Mac work like Windows.
I was thinking about switching to the new Mac but based on the comments here, I think I will stick with windows.
Correct me if I am wrong but most mac users in the comment seem to suggest "Mac can't do that, you just have to accept it" or "there is a comparable app that works better with iOS".
Those are not very convincing answers. It seems like most mac users are accepting negative aspects of iOS and justify it as features of iOS.
I am sure there are some stuff that windows can't do but in most cases, there is a way to make it work in windows.
You are not wrong. Mac users tend to be sheep. But I have a good cadre of fellow Mac users who are not. And the feedback to Apple by these pro users over the years has been significant. I mean, look at ports returning to the MacBooks. The reduction of ports was only ever a fetish of the strange reductionists at Apple. But put the ports back (at the insistence of pro users) and you can sell them like hotcakes.
Apple is a company that makes all kinds of great stuff. And the Mac is experiencing a Renaissance at the moment. It's no longer being ignored. This is great. Best days ever for the Mac. But pros dare not let Apple cruise on autopilot. Their tendency is style over substance. They sometimes have to be brought kicking and screaming to common sense. And that can take years.
Re ports: my new HP for work has barely any ports I think everyone wants to slim down their machines.
@@bradnelson3595 "Mac users tend to be sheep." "Their tendency is style over substance." 🙄 There are great qualities to both operating systems. Let's not make this into a projection of your perceived superiority. What a sad comment.
As a software developer, MacOS is way better to work with than (Windows being a Unix based system). I have both Macs and PCs. I use the Macs for programming and graphic design, and my PC for gaming and video editing (since I can upgrade CPU/RAM a lot easier and cheaper). They are both fine platforms.
I went from a Windows fanboy, to a Mac fanboy, to a “they both do certain jobs well. Use them both.”
@@chirpie11 This stupid trend was started by Apple. It's alright for ultrabooks that are used unplugged for straightforward tasks. But for more demanding tasks requiring decent versatility ports are a must. Ports don't add that much weight or size. Excluding them on laptops larger than ultrabooks doesn't really help anything.
This series is exactly how macOS users feel when trying to use Windows
Yes! I grow grey hairs every time I’m forced to run anything in Windows. 😜
@@KS-wr8ub it’s almost like you Mac people are from a different planet. To me at least 😃
@@andrewsc7304 honestly, we feel the same about you windows people too sometimes….
@@makasete30 Fair enough! :D
No, it's different. The frustration from macOS users on Windows is usually because it's not made the same way that it is made in macOS. The frustration from Windows users on macOS is because you CAN NOT do the things.
Tested all 3 (Windows, macOS, Linux) and I get the idea of simplicity for macOS, but just be honest it's not the best OS to do real/heavy work. Just for the average non techy/producer user.
I tried to switch from Windows to MacOS for 3 times, your frustration is exactly what I had. Just amazed that other people don't talk about them, until I saw your videos.
Yeah, it's refreshing to find real life examples of things going wrong. And the hilarious freezing montage, lol.
I think most Mac users just don't run into these, because they aren't used to do things like on Windows, so they aren't trying to recreate the Windows experience. But some issues are macOS shortcomings, macOS bugs or rooted in unfamiliarity with macOS (e.g. not knowing about many ways to do things and not knowing any power user to ask questions of freely) and others are incompatibilities with Apple's M-series (e.g. Adobe and bug fixes).
It's so refreshing to see this video. I've been mucking around with computers now for over 35 years and many OSes. I use a Windows machine as my daily, an M1 MBP for work travel and I run Linux on a chromebook. Out of them all, I still prefer Windows by a good bit. I am by no means a fanboy, but I think Windows is still sullied by a very long, poor reputation going back to the problems of W95 and 2k, etc. Truth is, my self-built gaming machine is far more stable, and it behaves for me in a way that makes more sense, like looking at a folder of files laid out plainly by date (something my mac struggles to be able to do with any predictability - it sometimes takes ages to put a timestamp on a recent file for whatever reason). In general, I find windows allows me to do what I want both more straightforward and more flexibly than with the mac. Like Lee, I've had to install 3rd party programs to mimic things I should get out of the box like hyperdock and bettertouchtool. Both machines very much have their merits, but I will send this video to the many mac fanboys I work with who look at me like a monster when I tell them I prefer windows.
I just wrote an article on Medium to which, somewhat puzzlingly, mac people flocked to, insulting me and saying I didn't know what I was doing and that's why I didn't like Mac OS, but what you just said kind of echoes my experience. Yes, you can download third party apps to do the things you need to do, but that's a really bad look for Apple, and it's off putting to me personally.
@@thatwasprettyneat that's really the nature of the fan club. It's amazing how people spending thousands of dollars and not getting paid thousands of dollars will still willingly shill for a company, and I think it mostly comes down to the 'cool' factor. Apple has long been seen as the hip brand and despite numerous mistakes and ridiculous prices on things, the fan base cannot get enough.
I have used Windows and macOS every day for the past 16 years. I prefer macOS. Faster and far more stable. By the sounds, most of your major problems are associated with Adobe, not apple. As you've rightly pointed out, there are also many things that macOS does, which Windows is terrible at, e.g. system-wide text-to-speech and speech-to-text (I'm sorry, the windows implementation is hopeless), much better default backup system, quick preview with the space bar (it works in many places), system-wide file tagging (again windows is hopeless), trackpad functionality on laptops, integration with iPad, automatic character recognition in photos, and much, much more... The two operating systems are different. Just learn them both.
Speech to text and text to speech in other languages than English is horrible.
To me it is utterly unclear how an iPhone is advertised for people with bad sight so they can use voice control etc.
It just doesn’t work, misunderstands commands, completely destroys sentences and words.
I use an iPhone since 2009 & MacBook since 2019
@@Oldnose63 Sure. I have no idea about languages other than English. My point was that speech recognition has much better integration within the OS. SR in Windows is sporadic, and in my case, much less reliable. How does SR work for languages other than English on Windows?
😂 love your unfiltered reactions to the MacBook 💻.
My single best tip with a MacBook is the three finger swipe. When you have a full screen application you can swipe with three fingers and it will seamlessly move to another open application. Very slick and fast, no need to minimize nearly ever. Makes workflow very fast.
Using premier on MacBooks just don't make sense
I agree that Final cut is probably the best editing software for Mac, but using Mac exclusive software , when you need a cross platform solution for your workflow does not make sense even more.
A lot of the time, people use Premier not because Premier is great but because it plugs into other applications so effortlessly. If you are firmly in the Adobe ecosystem - it makes sense to use Premier. Would I buy a Mac still... I would, but I don't think there is a huge advantage over a Windows machine for most.
Doesn’t make sense on windows either. I’m using it right now and it’s a disaster unfortunately.
Missing the point. Point is. MacOS is stable but severely lacking in features. Your point sounds a lot like.. "you're holding your phone Wong"
Resolve runs great on Mac also. Adobe I think are still trying to get their apps working natively on M1 chips it’s still all through Rosetta and it’s always been sketchy at the best of times.
The SD card unplug notification is mainly due to the background indexing / thumbnail creation. Unlike Windows which is usually safe to unplug SD Card at any time, macOS keeps writing and writing and writing new files to your SD Card. If you unplug without ejecting, it will be way easier to corrupt the filesystem
2:16 Right there, it looks like you didn’t wait long enough for the premiere window to be actually active, you let go of the files while it was still in mission control. Using Command tab would help with this a lot, so you can switch to other apps really quick. Like alt tab in windows. Or, just keep your finder window a little smaller, it really doesn’t need to be that big
Yes, the problem of dragging files onto premier is caused by him windowfying his finder to be maximised and thinking like a PC by dragging the files onto the dock icon. The mac way is to just drag from the finder window (which is just smaller) onto the app window in the background.
@@danielmee these aren't issues you apple people should be living with, you guys are talking about this issue as if it's his fault 😂😂😂
This is very interesting to see. I have been exclusively using Windows PCs for 20 years, when I made the switch to an Apple MacBook Air M1 this year. I definately feel some of your frustations! It took me some time to get used to the quirks of MacOS and yes, just like you I also encountered a lot of bugs and freezes during my time of using MacOS. But somehow I became hooked when I really dug deeper into all the cool details that MacOS does differently than Windows. My biggest enjoyment is the way MacOS just ties all your accounts, contacts, calendars and passwords together. I absolutely hated having to log into all my accounts manually when using Windows. Now I just put my finger onto the finger id sensor and I can acces all my stuff in a logical and cohesive manner. After using a Pixel 2 XL for about 4.5 years, I now also ordered an iPhone because of the way all my stuff is interconnected now. This is the absolut selling point for me
Yeah going from android to ios I believe is much more frustrating than going from windows to macos. Android does a decent job of id authentication in my experience so for me going to ios is just for fun. I HATE how to rearrange app icons on ios, can't believe they haven't changed that much in all the years.
Love this. When I switched over to a Mac for work, I experienced everything you’re going through. I don’t get why people defend bad ui design. There’s a lot of bad design choices on macs. Sure, if you use it enough, you get used to it but that seems like a silly way of working. I’d love to combine different parts of Windows and macs os.
mac os is beautiful thats for sure. the rest is debatable.
There are some things he brought up that are proprietary windows designs and Apple can’t do it legally, just like the same that Mac does and windows cannot.
I love the compatibility between devices with the Mac.
There’s a reply in here by a Corey Layton. Around 150 likes. Go read it. Cause it’s the perfect response to your comment.
@@bootydaddy9934 Beauty is subjective as well.. Am not a fan of it.
After the last few years of being on a Mac I still have those frustrations. When I first started on Mac I would dual boot into Windows using Bootcamp and then I used Parallels but those ended up being more of a pain so I have been Mac only. I did install Ubar after watching your last video and in spite of its short cummings it has been welcome change to the Mac dock that I have always hated. If it causes issues in the future I may have to go back but for now I am happier with it. As an app dev I am forced to use Mac for developing iOs apps.
I'm a game developer and I end up using all three main OS's constantly and I can definitely say I prefer macOS. But before that I was a full on windows fanboy and when I switched I sounded exactly like you did, everything was counter intuitive compared to windows, and I was just trying to force my windows workflow into a completely different OS. But once I got used to its quirks and started utilizing it's unique features its really hard to fully go back to windows.
Its kinda like any other software, you have to get good at it before it really becomes useful
Most of the things you complain about have simple solutions. I've been working on macOS with a triple monitor for years. Once you understand how it works, what is the philosophy behind it, you will be happy.
Super helpful video as I'm in the process of switching from Windows to using Mac Os for the first time in my life. Thank you!
I hear you loud and clear on the dock issues, particularly when it comes to data transfer.
I’ve learned the hard way to just juggle the tb3 ports on my Mac with 1 for the dock/charging and non storage items and one for either my raid 5 backup or my sample libraries.
I nuked a 4tb tb3 ssd earlier this year with an expensive tb3 dock and won’t trust it again for daisy chaining storage.
Loved your input and feedback. It’d be awesome to see you try and link up with MKBHD and compare workflows. Also one thing that has helped me use macOS regarding the dock - I get rid of all the app icons in the dock except launchpad and then any icons I see are ones that are open. To open apps I use launchpad and organize the apps how I want them.
I am impressed with your open-mindedness to be willing to try this, BUT, I think many of the things that bother you are muscle memory from your life with a PC. I also think lack of first hand experience plays a roll. Certainly, there are Mac issues just as there are in the PC World. Still, I think you have been very fair, and just need to get more familiar with the system... Great job....
Exactly. None of his "problems" are actual problems. There's just a certain way to do them and he doesn't know how to. Apple literally puts out free user manuals that would answer every question he has. Why more people don't use them is mind-boggling.
Absolute this.
A non-insignificant percentage of complaints are preference and previous experience not actual problems.
@@DavidKen878 I have both Mac and Windows and Macs are just not intuitive, you have to google every small problem you're encountering.
@@RocketEightEight No, YOU have to Google every small problem you have. Also, if you're experiencing a problem and don't know how to solve it, how else are you going to fix it? I don't understand what you're trying to say.
@@DavidKen878 Somehow I've found Linux more user-friendly then MacOS. I'm planning to install it on my old Air once I'm done with Apple TV.
Virtual desktop work amazing on windows too, I use them a lot on my pc too. Keeping apps with study and work related stuff on one and any other thing on the other. Keeps you focused, it's a feature I loved in linux but gotta say windows also does it great without any problems or lacking features.
I'm a fellow Windows -> Mac user, and one piece of advice I would have is to get used to maximising everything, then swiping up on the trackpad (with 3 fingers) to see what you have open.
The dock is not like the taskbar, and trying to use the dock like the taskbar will drive you mental!
Just get used to the trackpad gestures generally, it will make your like so much easier!
Logi's mx masters also works pretty well, as it has multiple customizable buttons and can replace many of the gestures.
Have to agree with most of this content. I’ve been using macs since the first ever made. Back when I used a g3 power Mac and G4, Mac OS upto 10 was super easy moving files around and felt intuitive and every time they updated the Mac OS it just got worse in navigating for files. Yes things have massively improved in reliability but it’s the file management that is important to most users as that’s the biggest head ache you don’t want. Dongles are a real pain especially for myself being a photographer so good they have brought back the micro sd slot back. But there are two sides to every coin and pcs do things I hate to and I find them more complicated in a lot of ways. I think apple should listen to your videos as even as a Mac user we have the same issues too I just wish they would listen and change those simple things that you love on your pc and be able to do that to on a Mac. I guess it’s the same with all tech there’s never a perfect one as one tv may have better features where as another has better quality screen or build quality. It drives me insane reading reviews and choosing tech because there’s always a downside and upside and rarely one piece of tech to rule them all and it being an easy choice when buying something. The biggest thing I loved with older OS was the ability to colour code files which highlighted the whole strip of a file, which you still can do but it’s just a little dot which dosnt feel the same to me.
Apple has a solution for your dock problem at 5:35. If you have multiple windows open and you minimize one, you have to press and hold on the application in the app bar. If a checkmark is next to it then it is open. If a diamond is next to it then it is minimized.
If you do not minimize any windows and they're all open in the same space, use the three finger gesture to get the Mission Control view and see them all at a glance. Sometimes the windows overlap and makes it hard to find the right one so you can hover the mouse over an application and press the space bar to get a preview of it before selecting it.
If you have too many windows in one screen, you should move apps to other spaces by adding a new space in mission control. You should also enable the three finger swipe to swipe between spaces. This is what I found works best for organizing applications.
wow that's a really inconvenient way of organizing a desktop...
What...
I know this would get buried but thank you thank you so much for these videos. You have exactly the same perspective I have on almost every level and I don't consider myself a power Windows user. This is the second time in my life I have been seriously pondering switching OSs and once again I couldn't find a detailed video of all the issues and frustrations I will find with the apple OS, until now. This will greatly help with my choice.
2:17 this drives me absolutely insane. We attach videos, screenshots and documents dozens of times a day in Jira and resizing windows like this is asinine. It blows my mind how close Windows is getting to the perfect balance of convenience and power compared to MacOS....the OS that's been striving for decades to achieve it.
I literally drag and drop from finder into a hidden chrome window on not just jira, but imgur, confluence, wetransfer all day long and it works without issue. This is not an OS limitation.
@@rufysufy I did end up managing it last week actually. I wasn't waiting long enough with the cursor over the dock icon. It does work. It takes a while but it's fine.
This video somewhat confirms my suspicion that lately it's been a waste of time and money to try to upgrade to anything else than what I already have and use. I've been this "on the edge" of the tech frontier guy, trying all the tech there was. But lately it feels like anywhere I'd go, there would be something to bother me and it would never be resolved. Having a Windows laptop or workstation at least gives me some versatility (all the productive AND games run on it), and when it's too old I can always make it into a media center or server.
i use macs for work and pc at home for gaming. i think the main wrong mentality when you're trying to use other systems is to try to mimic everything you're accustomed to into the new thing you're trying to learn. It's like trying to use chopsticks in the same way as using a fork, it can work but you will have bad time. If you try to use it as a chopstick, at first you'll struggle and then you'll learn. at first i swapped command and control to have windows-like copy-paste system. And I said, "i want to learn this thinking this is a mac, instead of a windows", and I forced myself to use command + c , v to use copy paste and i mastered things in 4-5 days. Now when I use macs I know that certain shortcuts are for macs and certain shortcuts are for windows, and you feel like a polyglot.
for the programs that crashing, i think the one to blame is the company who still needs to optimize it on the new machine, i think it's just unfair to test a machine based on a third party program's crash stats.
I really enjoyed this video comparison. I am a long time user of both Windows and Mac. The struggle is real. I constantly jump back and forth due to one OS being better at something then the other. The ecosystem is a big factor. I was issued an iPhone for work. I bought an iPad for work and certain apps that are only available for iOS. Keep the vids coming.
Thanks for sharing your experience, it’s very useful and interesting to me, since I’ve bounced back and forth over the years.
I used Macs in the 90s, was a huge fanboy, then used Windows almost exclusively through the 00s (I worked in IT, both in support and in applications development) and then got a MacBook for editing photos in 2011. I always loved MacOS, so it was cool to get back to it.
In 2016 I needed a much beefier machine to stitch huge panoramas with PTGUI, and in pricing and comparing hardware I just could _not_ justify the cost of another Mac vs. building a custom PC where I could do RAID and add humongous amounts of disk space and have it all run on SATA. I dreaded going back to Windows for my main working PC...I just thought I would hate it.
It didn’t take me long to get used to it again though, as Windows 10 really is the best Windows they ever made. Apple has gone downhill since Jobs died. Macs still have advantages, but I don’t feel like they are the super stable “it just works!” platform they used to be, and I definitely don’t think I would prefer MacOS over Windows again. I think I would find going back kind of rough...the hardware _is_ definitely better when it comes to keyboard, trackpad, mic, camera like you said...but I’m skeptical that the main guts are really worth the price like I thought 10 or so years ago. I really found your experience in these two videos interesting, and I think I would have a similar experience to yours if I went back. But like you, I’m not interested in picking up FCP...I use DaVinci Resolve and would prefer to stick with that. Everyone I’ve heard praise the new M1 uses FCP...so it’s interesting seeing your experience with Premiere.
As a 10 year Mac user, thank you for voicing some obstacles 😊.
The reason why it shows that warning about unpluging stuff is because it's literally not safely unplugged and it really can damage your devices if there is some writing happening. So careful to not lose your data on the drives. Yup sux...
I like to automatically hide my dock so the windows are on full screen and the dock is not taking up the space.
Apple suggest to use that green fullscreen button so you can just slide across different "desktops" with three fingers swipe to the left/right. Also if you "right click" (it's two fingers click) on the dock icons it shows you opened instances.
Dragging and dropping into Premiere has never been a problem for me. I’m surprised you’re having trouble.
It is also possible to drag a file to the new location, which will totally move it, effectively cutting and pasting.
Not helpful if you're in a folder and want to move it to another folder without opening a new window.
@@ryanokeefe12 well, you can drag and drop without opening a new window too, but you would then need to re-navigate to the original location as dragging the file to the destination would navigate you to the destination folder. But if you plan to cut and paste a file with only one window open, I fail to see how dragging the file to the destination and completely leaving the original location is any different. You would still only have one window open, and you’d be moving your file(s) to the new destination.
@@Red7Ent This is only possible if the destination folder is visible in the finder tree.. if it's a sub folder that isn't visible, youre screwed.
@@ryanokeefe12 if you drag the file over the top folder and hold it for a second, it will open that folder, then you can navigate to the appropriate sub-folder.
As a prospective mac user, I really appreciate this series. Though my main use case won't so much be video editing but coding and and some design work, this definitely brings some perspective to the ecosystem hailed to have the best laptops on the market. I'm not entirely too bothered by mac doing things in different ways from windows. Coming from having experience in using linux systems I think I'll be quite familiar with a mac. However, the biggest thing that got me while watching your vids is defintely the issue with the dock and also the file transfer not showing any details. I am honestly quite appalled that mac doesn't have something in place for what I'd consider a fundamental feature for modern OSs.
That being said, I'm still very excited to get my hands on a new mac. The biggest driving point for me is the fact that I'll be able to use my design software alongside having a bash terminal natively for my programming. Something that would drive me nuts when on windows or on a linux machine is how you cannot have both worlds natively on your pc. For bash you have to either install wsl, or some 3rd party terminals like cygwin or git bash which are not as intergrated in the system as simply having them natively like in linux. Similarly, with linux, you have to hop through some hoops as well if you even hope to run software like the Affinity design suite or Clip Studio paint. At the very least, with a macbook I'll be able to easily access my design software tools that I want to use more regularly, along with my wacom tablet, all while also being able to do my work and having the best experience and speed when compiling my code. That and of course the insane battery life are the main driving points for a mac for me. The other features that come with the mac are of course nice bonues, but I'm glad to have been exposed to some issues I will likely encounter coming from windows and linux.
I wish more people would make videos to show the differences between the operating systems and expose more of apple's shortcomings so that people considering a switchover can do so with realistic expectations.
I have no problem with macOS doing things differently either but it has to make sense and just too many things are implemented very poorly.
I did the same, except for 3 years instead of 3 weeks. Same conclusion as you. If I was to compact my review in short; Apple is not for power users looking for workflow optimization and efficiency; It's focused on simplicity the way they envisioned it with their workflow. Ultimately, everything ends up taking more time, even if you really use it the way they intend you to, but not everyone cares about that, they just enjoy the UI and they don't care about the extra second or minute like you and me, they love the simplicity and the consistency across the whole echo system. If you dare complain, many will try to argue that you are at fault, that you are bringing your Windows habits or that you just dislike the OS... but no, habits and preferences aside, the differences are real and measurable: To think that all your friends didn't know how to cut and paste files or move them and that they accepted their fate just says efficiency doesn't affect their sleep like me (and you probably). As a multi-platform developer; my hand is never on that mouse and everything has to be efficient and quick and very customizable with one keystroke away and that OS was not built for people like me.
Anyone that spends years deeply exploring both will endup with the same average conclusion as me as far as I know. I like them for simple media centers or light work, they are simple and clean, easy to use for anyone in the house and I do most of my real work on Linux or Windows depending( and never a laptop anymore.... )
Completely agree with you and that has been my experience working with Macs.
I know your pain, I've always used windows at home, but when I started working at a film company, everybody EVERYBODY used mac, so I had to switch because that's what they gave me, and after the same frustrations, I just gave up and said to myself "that's how this works".
Also, that people that say that mac never freezes/crashes, that you never have to restart, that "it just works", yeah, they have never used their computer to its fullest.
In the end I landed to the same conclusion, I'm not leaving my windows dektop, but when I need to grab a laptop and go, I'll grab a mackbook pro every time.
Great video man!
I went down a comparable route: going from Linux with Gnome (which is comparable to the Interface of macOS in one way or another) to macOS. I've returned my MacBook. While it is a not good but great laptop, especially performance and battery wise, I just can't shake off the feeling that I'm dealing with a polished Gnome desktop environment that comes with exactly the same restrictions Gnome does. macOS feels like a pretty boy Linux distribution with support for proprietary software which was my main reason to give it a try: Adobe and Office aren't working on Linux unfortunately and Photoshop is essential for me, GIMP doesn't make the cut. Windows it is I guess.
MacOS really is just a glorified (and yet hobbled) Linux distro with good vendor support.
I've been building gaming PC's since I was 13 years old, so I'm pretty embedded in the Windows ecosystem when it comes to a PC. That said, I exclusively use iPhones, iPads, and an Apple Watch on the daily for everything else. I work from home since 2020, and have been using my gaming PC for my day to day work. Nothing too heavy, but I generally will have Chrome running 24/7 with 20+ tabs open, in addition to Excel, Word, Powerpoint and a chat client I use for work (Microsoft Teams). Not super heavy duty stuff, but a lot of smaller/medium sized programs running all at the same time. My gaming PC handles all this with ease while pushing two 4K monitors. Unfortunately, a recent bad thunderstorm came though my area and I experienced a bad power surge which ended up taking my desktop out of commission. I panicked because of course I need a computer for work and given the fact I was recently promoted, I thought it'd be a bad look if my first week in the new position I was hamstrung by having to work on a crappy backup HP laptop I've had for a decade. I started looking at buying a new computer I could use in the meantime while I worked on getting my desktop back to life, and ended up landing on the new MacBook Air. Heard great things about the M1 chip and felt like it would be a safe bet on being able to run everything I need for work.
So far I've been using the MacBook for about a week, and aside from the bummer of only being able to extend my display to just one of my 4K monitors without an expensive dock, I have to say I'm really really surprised how much I'm liking the experience. So much so, I'm considering just making this a permanent switch. There's still a couple of things I run into here and there that can be confusing, but overall I find I'm better able to multitask on the Mac, even with the fact one of my screens is the tiny 13" built in display, due to all the awesome trackpad gestures that allow me to quickly switch between applications I have running. That and the seamless integration between my phone, watch, and iPad is truly amazing. Never thought I'd see the day!
This is such a detailed and well thought-out review and helpful for someone who is planning to make an OS switch. Good job.
My gripe with apple is the company policy. You cant upgrade or repair. You need to send it to a shop or buy a new one. No way apple.
When was the last time a ssd or ram stick failed in a Apple device? Main reason of issue is people getting liquid damage
Not just talking about laptops. People like to upgrade ram, storage and depending on the computer they would like to upgrade gpu.
This was a great video. In March 2020 I built a PC because I couldn't afford a Mac. Now when I use MacOS I get so frustrated because it's so different and doesn't do what I want. I love my PC, and I'll never switch back but for day to day it's great to have a Mac too
2:00 It look like you are In an other applications (Open file) window that make use of Finder rather than you having a normal Finder window open. Next time, then try open a separate Finder window for that type of work. It's just like If you try to open MS Word, open file and then try interact with other file formats then .docs. You are in many ways limited in moving around folders etc. from an (open file) window compared to a normal finder window.
1:00 Yes, It is only In list mode you can select start and ending points. So you can either choose to select the files you want to select by mark them and subsequently hold the "Command" kay down to manually select one more/less file. for example if you have marketed all the files In a line and would like to mark one more which is a located a lille further down in the folder. Alternatively, you must switch to list mode each time. I have no idea how it works on Windows, but can see many dilemmas when you are not sure wish files are between your start and end points.
3:30 Why do you use this logitech dongle? Most machines come with BT today and If you buy the Mac version of logitech's MX Master, then there is no dongle included. Seriously, it does not even take half a second from you turn on the mouse to It's connected and ready for use by using BT.
4:00 Remember to eject your devices before unplugging them, you do that by right-clicking on them and selecting "eject"
For 1:00 if I really needed thumbnail view I just held Cmd if necessary and drew squares around the files to select them
For @1:00, it just works in Windows.
You can have massive thumbnails in the window, and all you do is click on one file, scroll all the way down to whatever end file you want, press shift, and click on the second file.
All files between and including the two files will automatically be selected.
The thumbnail you first selected doesn't even have to be visible anymore when you shift+click the second thumbnail.
It's so ridiculously convenient to be able to do this in a window with perhaps hundreds of files and thumbnails.
You certainly don't have to "make multiple square selections" or go into a list view, lol.
@@victorlin4645 But If you, for example turn off the grid mode in a folder, which files are then between your start and ending points and which will not be selected? When I select a lot of files in a folder with grid turn of, by just using my cursor. Then Only the files withinde what I highlight will be selected. Must admit that I find it just as easy, to just highlight All the files down to the last file I want to select with the cursor. Would normally only have to make use of "shift" in list view, as It can be a bit difficult some times to select af lot of files without accidentally dragging one of the files around and In list view you also can't turn of the grid. Maybe that Is why this funktion exist in list view. What about In Gallery view?
@@nickvogelius the idea is that you can visually see the images you want to select because they're nice big thumbnails.
In Windows I use this all the time. Say that I have a folder with 500 image files and I need to select a group of 13 of them that I shot together as part of a panorama. It's super easy to visually see the images as thumbnails and do the Shift Select thing.
I wouldn't be able to do this in list view. I can't visually make out what the images are. Same with video files.
@@victorlin4645 But why not just drag and snap all the files you want to highlight with your cursor In thumbnail view, for Yes! I agree that list view is more information oriented, file name, date, size etc. But if I need to see both the information and the thumbnails of the files, then I will use QuickLook, where you easily can switch between all your photos in a folder by using the arrow keys simultaneously with quicklook or why not just switch to gallery view.
When I initially switched to mac from a lifetime of windows, I initially had the same kind of reaction trying to use mac like windows. It was only when I tried to properly learn the operating system and its differences that I found ways to significantly accelerate my processes.
I kept going back to windows in the beginning and took me 1-2 years for me to warm up to a mac. But since then, I've never once wanted to go back to a windows machine again. Everyone's mileage varies but for me, mac is significantly more efficient, effective and reliable. On the reliability piece; I might add that whilst every computer CAN crash once in a blue moon, windows can force restarts and updates on you and even delay your boot up with forced updates. This feels intentional and I hate that I can't control it beyond pausing updates for a very short period of time. When you have a very critical need for a computer right at that moment and you open up your computer to a windows update screen, that is simply not ideal.
Buying a Pro license of Windows really helped the "update" issues for me. It still happens for time to time, but it gives you much more control compared to the standard licence
Thank you so much for making these videos. I am so close to giving the Mac a try. Yet, I know it will drive me crazy. And you have just saved me from this madness!!