Why Your Veterinarian is so Reluctant....Nutrition Fatigue
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 19 มิ.ย. 2024
- Most veterinarians know the importance of good nutrition for dogs and cats. and they see and learn alot while practicing medicine. Nut these days, due to social media, they are reluctant to bring it up, in fear of their clients bombarding them with pet food misinformation they've see on the internet. Sometimes it can get pretty heated!
I am a German vet and what you say is absolutely true. All the points you raised are my daily business. You study for years, go to training courses, read books and studies, treat lots of dogs and cats with various health problems every day and then people think they know better and now have the ultimate wisdom because they've watched a few videos on TH-cam. It's frustrating. Luckily not all pet owners are on the raw food, grain free or whatever trip and follow the vet's advice. I am very grateful for your views.
Thanks to you’re videos I went full Iams.
No more headaches. No more diarrhea,vomiting or sold out prescription food that costs $80 a bag.
Took me three years to land on Iams. They need to upgrade the product design/look it looks plain and boring, but it’s been good so far for my dog
I remember having one of those conversations with a Vet and seeing his frustration and now I know why. Thank you for setting us straight.❤
Hi Glenn! Wow! Another heartfelt video and all I can say is: Amen to that!!🙏🙏🙏 I agree 100% with you! Thank you for telling it like it is! 😻🐶🐾
Oh I love this!! Rant on mista!! We need this lol
Thank you Lynda!
I’d also like to point out most vets also no longer tell people when their pet is obese even though it is a health issue because too many people find it insulting then leave google reviews about how horrible their vet is for saying their dog is fat.
lol! I was going to mention that! That’s worth a whole video. I used to train vets to not let it be a weight discussion, but make it a health discussion. Discuss the health risks with the pets unhealthy metabolism. The concern is the increased risk of some heartbreaking, expensive conditions. L! I’ve seen people literally leave clinics over saying their pets were overweight!
Not my experience, my male cat got a little plump as he exited kittenhood. First thing his vet mentioned. Orijen Fit & Trim was what I fed as I fed mostly kibble at the time and it brought his weight down. Now though, he eats a variety of kibble (Farmina and the Orijen) and wet foods from Royal Canin to Weruva.
Would you please do a video addressing the idea that cats should never be on dry kibble?
Yes, Cats and Carbs is a video on my list to do!
Yes!! It drives me crazy when I see people say “the worst wet food is better than the best dry food”. I see a lot of cat owners try to switch their cats to wet-only diets and then they feel guilty when their cat only wants dry.
Thank You! I worry about it constantly because of what I read on the net. I do feed canned with added water. Our male gets UTI's when his allergies act up and then I worry about him eating kibble. You and DR. Rea are the best!❤
@@Perpetual-Waffle and it makes me worry.
Animal Doc Rea has a video, where she comments that she attended a seminar where the speaker said that any wet food is better than any dry food for treating a cat with diabetes. Switching to wet food showed signs of remission almost immediately.
So excited when I see a new video from you and Dr. Rea! my vet also like myself shows and breeds, and I feel he’s more open to talk to me regarding certain things he may not like to with others. I went to see him a couple of weeks ago as my puppies needed their 2nd vaccines, and I asked him “I’m having a very hard time deciding what to feed my dogs, I keep getting these expensive foods that are supposed to be the best of the best and I’m having random inconsistencies, from soft big stools a lot of gas to vomiting, and that I just honestly don’t know what’s something more appropriate for my small dogs (this was right before I found you and Dr. Rea). He said he typically doesn’t like to suggest a specific food because then if a dog reacts to it, or if the owner doesn’t know how to transition or really if anything happens, people run back to him and get upset with him for suggesting that brand. I totally understand his point of view! And don’t blame him. For me he did give me a few names of brands I can look into and he said to just start with one small bag, see how they do and if all is well, stick with it, and if they don’t move to the next one. He swaps pro plan and royal canin, and when vets feed their own pets RC, proplan and hills, that tells me something….. I don’t think many people understand the stress our vets go through on a daily basis.
Thankyou for these videos as a dog groomer I try to do the best for not just my dogs but client dogs aswell and nutrition is the biggest topic right now. You’ve really made me think about things I haven’t before and I will be trialing some new diets with my dog because of it.
Well I’m glad you’re here! We are all learning from each other.
I have to give the nod to the Vets on this subject…my GSD has had numerous auto immune issues her entire life..one thing after another until she had colitis and perinatal fistulas then the vet said nope, she needs Royal Canine Hydrolyzed Protein. It’s expensive…I wasn’t wild about the ingredients and wanted her on something “better”. I talked to my breeder, she said go raw, checked Internet forums, they all said, go raw,…but why would the vet prescribe this food if it wasn’t good for her? The vet has years of schooling, the breeder & other yokes on the forums do not, and my girl has issues with multiple ingredients/substances. If I feed raw and she has issues with all types of protein, a protein raw and a protein cooked do her the same harm…I stuck with the expert (the Vet). She is 13 1/2 now, a true trooper. I did try & take her off the vet diet a year ago but after 6 months her colitis came back and I put her back on the vet diet and no more colitis. I believe in my decision, despite her having some minor setbacks with vestibular disease and ear infections she is still going strong. I’m looking for a food for a new pup I will have this spring, and yes, I understand nutritional fatigue! I like Dr. Rea too she is a big help as well as yourself. Leaning towards Fromm Four Star and will keep an eye out for high calcium levels in the dogs blood work thanks to your suggestions. Vets are in the profession because they love animals not because they want to harm them or just don’t care!!!!
Happy to have you in our community!
I remember when I was young my dad said that eating is such a hassle. He wishes they would come up with some kind of a biscuit that you could just eat for breakfast, lunch and dinner and be done with it.! 🤣. on the serious side, you would think that nutrition would be one of the key issues of veterinarian would want to address with a client when they bring in a new pet. Nutrition is a major part of caring for a living organism. It should be more than just a simple recommendation of one brand of food
You’re right! But social media has turned it into to a nightmare for vets.
7-10 years ago I stopped into a boutique pet food store because I was curious. I was overwhelmed with all the brands and labels. Talked to the young lady working and she said Dog Chow was full of fillers and not bioavailable to my dog. They also said I’d feed less to my dogs. I admit I fell for it. I bought taste of the wild with the buffalo on the yellow bag. My German shepherd ate it but she pooped mud pies. Horrible. By Labrador took a mouthful and dropped it all over the floor. They ate it very slow. Should’ve taken it back but I’m not the return stuff kinda guy. After that went back to Dog Chow and haven’t changed. Told my vet and she said to not buy food that is grain free. This was years before the DCM stuff. I took her advice and agreed. I figured she went through college and is smarter than the young lady working in the pet store. Those pet food stores are so slick talking nice and making it seem like the food you fed isn’t healthy or digestible. I’m glad you’re on here combating the misinformation. It’s an up hill battle like taking on a Qanon follower in my opinion.
Had to look up Qanon! lol! I am a big Trump supporter (especially after this DOJ report tonight!
I stopped patronizing a local small independent pet supply store when I realized they were telling me the food I had purchased for a while was horrible just because they did not have an agreement with the distributor. Because after s while, they started carrying it again!
@@mssmssmssmss lies always sound better than the truth. And we all are guilty of falling for them!
I know you have a lot of background with Hills. I have a two year old Rottie and is about to get neutered. They are susceptible to weight gain and Want to be sure to keep his weight at bay. He eats hills adult large breed now and I was thinking of switching to hills light large breed or hills perfect weight and joint large breed. Honestly though it seems that he just eats a larger quantity of these two compared to the regular adult large breed food. So what’s the difference really?
coconut oil, I hated the coconut oil fad.
Hi Dr. Rea, now I have to ask, is coconut oil ok? I always see people talking about it as if it’s a cure all 😂
Eh, there is nothing special about it. It doesn’t bring anything good to the table, it has no unique healing properties. If you feed it you are just adding fat and calories and contributing to pancreatitis and obesity. The worst is putting it on the skin and coat, then you have a greasy dog with clogged pores and skin cells that can no longer exfoliate and trap in bacteria (which by the way thrive on the newly warm and moist environment supplied by the oil).
My philosophy in life is whatever the latest fad/trend is, I look and research in the other direction lol
I agree Glenn, even my Vet who I like, will no longer suggest any certain brand of food for all the reasons you mentioned. With all the BS out there I appreciate someone who stands up against it. Good job sir!
well thank you sir! We all have different callings!
I'd like your thoughts on Ziwi Peak dried dog food, I found your series recently, Great service to pet owners, Thanks
adding it to my list. Thanks!
My last Staffy suffered with bad IBD -Stomach, Acid reflux, diarrhea etc, you feel so helpless, so you go looking for answers, what foods helped other dogs etc etc you join FB groups etc, Id see my vet monthly because Patch was still not doing well & Id say, I seen this on the internet ???
Do you think it will help him, the next visit I tell my vet something else I had seen this on interent, then on another vet visit my vet said, "Susan - STAY OFF THE INTERNET" 🤣😂.
Also, I hope you don’t mind me asking here, I just watched Dr Rea’s video regarding the Kirkland line of foods. I’m going to post this to her as well, but I was wondering if you both would possibly be able to include sodium % and copper %, as my own research recently shows some companies that exceed big on these as well and are very bad for your pets (the big companies DO have proper amount though, so I thought it would be another great point to show people in even more depth why research, and properly made foods are so so important for our cats and dogs. I have a 14 year old dog (big time heart dog), with CHF and so I started really looking into sodium as high sodium does put more strain on the kidneys, etc. I was SHOCKED at the amount of sodium in some foods…. Including the one I was feeding at the time, and I noticed my dogs were drinking like crazy. Anyways, on the Kirkland video, she has quite a few Kirkland foods on there and I would love to know why a food within the same line from the same company would have higher calcium/phosphorus on very close protein levels and one was even more and yet lower in calcium/phosphorus than the other one. Could they be using different sourcing of meat in different formulas? And what drives the calcium/phosphorus up high? Does it have to do with quality ? Thank you so much, sorry for ranting so much, I think you can tell how important this subject is to me lol.
Sarah, you are on the right track. When you change meat sources you end up delivering different mineral levels. Goi g grain free will change mineral levels. And yes, the quality of the meat source determines mineral content. Bone, hair, hoof, feathers,etc will drive calcium and phosphorus up. As Dr Rea said, minerals are so important yet companies don’t bother controlling them because no one is looking… and it costs money. And sadly, the most attractive looking protein ingredients can be very excessive in minerals. I am certain the excess protein and the minerals they deliver are contributing to so much kidney disease and urinary stones, especially in cats. Hope that helps!
@@PetFoodPuzzleGuy appreciate your reply! I was watching a video as my TH-cam kept playing on my tv, and they compared carbs to sugar? Do you happen to know regarding glycemic index regarding how much sugar is going into dogs via certain grains?
The logic behind this is like going to your accountant but not wanting to talk about your finances lol
Nutrition should be higher on the list for some vets I know but even the ones passionate about nutrition are getting tired of fighting. Dr Rea mentioned it in her comment but obesity is another issue vets are reluctant to bring up. And that is much more critical to address than food. But pet parents get offended and actually leave the practice! Nevermind your overweight pet has an increase d risk of almost every disease you could name! When Blue was more popular vets knew it wasn’t good food but couldn’t say so because clients wanted affirmation for being such great pet parents for feeding Blue! Really! It’s not easy being a vet these days!
I guess maybe this is a great approach for general vets. When you visit internal medicine veterinary specialists or neurosurgeons, they kind of want to discuss foods you're feeding and whats on offer that might provide some relief. I've seen both and also got my cat a Maxilo Facial surgeon for her teeth and all have had long discussions. Keeping updated on Google actually found me a breakthrough medication prior to the company Elanco sending the info to the specialist. He was ecstatic since he knows how many animals visiting his practice this could save. So do your research.
Hi Glen! Thanks for the content, I am learning a lot of things and I'm much less stressed about feeding my dog prescription diet regardless of what all those facebook groups are saying (I'm sure you know which). Have you heard the news on the recent Hill's class action lawsuit related to grain-free diet? What are your thoughts on it?
Georgina, thanks for the encouraging words.Don't be stressed! There's enough stress in our lives!Oh yeah, I heard right away about it. I know nothing of details but history shows me its just lawyers making money. Just like the silly lawsuit against Hills calling their product Prescription Diet and the one that they only sell to vets. all silliness. The fact Tufts University and Cornell and many other nutritionists agree with Hills, that makes it a conspiracy. LOL! You think Hills could have made it look worse by discontinuing their grain free foods, but they didn't. you think they would have had us reps go out and tell vets not to recommend grain free, but they told us there's more questions than answers. And when the FDA overreacted and listed brands, all of us knew that was knee jerk but none of us respect the FDA anyway.But the Hills haters, the fear mongers, and of course the et food marketers will use it. And I will counter it, og course!
Got an idea, and didn't see anywhere where I could email you directly, so here you go: could you list the nutrient levels of certain other YT vet's dog food products? Is that allowed? I saw some of their prices, and was stunned on their costs. Would be really interesting to see how their nutrient levels stack up against the Royal Canins/Hill's/etc. If they they DO stack up, more power to them, but if they don't, won't that do a lot of......revealing?
Mcbeezee, you find all my pet food reviews I list the actual nutrient levels and always compare to a few others. Its the whole basis of my channel. And I will continue to do that. and you're learning, these others who talk about nutrition never mention nutrients!!! my email is gkMontana1979@gmail.com. i really want to hear how your pup does.
Mention Taylor Swift to any group. Shake it Off! If raw food were dangerous, cats and most wild animals would no longer exist. If I am right about homemade food, I will never have to deal with food related health issues when my cats get older. If I'm wrong, they will be no worse off than if I fed them corporate pet food. I listen to university studies and the National Institutes of Health. I guess they don't know what they are doing, either? You may have been a headache, but you never were a bore. Thanks for the memories!
Well, not sure the connection with Taylor Swift but I’m sure I’ll see her in the Super Bowl coverage, my first game of the season for me. Maybe those researchers aren’t wrong. You’re just misinterpreting what they’re saying. My video Cats and Carbs will be dedicated to you, my friend. I wish any form of feeding could guarantee no food related health issues. Genetics plays too big a part.
@@PetFoodPuzzleGuy A lot of football people, non-Chiefs fans, are upset with all of the attention given to Travis Kelce of the Chiefs dating Taylor Swift. Even though it is estimated she has brought in $331 million in viewers, advertising and clothing sales. A record number of women have watched the NFL this season. Go Chiefs!
@@edschulhof6303 ugh! I’m not gonna comment! Not what I’m thinking! Lo!
@@PetFoodPuzzleGuy Just don't use the term "Carbo-vore" LOL