Battlefield 2042 - A Year Long Rant (Strong Language)

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  • Battlefield 2042 came out in November of 2021 and it sucked. But is it better now, a year later?
    Strong language.
    #battlefield2042
    #battlefield
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  • @DownwardThrust
    @DownwardThrust  ปีที่แล้ว +770

    This video includes F words.

    • @SimplexPL
      @SimplexPL ปีที่แล้ว +46

      Justifiably so.

    • @EnsignRedshirtRicky
      @EnsignRedshirtRicky ปีที่แล้ว +14

      The return of Battlefield Friends is the only good thing about BF 2042.

    • @dannyd464
      @dannyd464 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Fanny ?

    • @lonleybeer
      @lonleybeer ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Good

    • @rahelkenway3387
      @rahelkenway3387 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you for your time, also you can change squads.

  • @naturalfitness23
    @naturalfitness23 ปีที่แล้ว +2332

    It's insane how DICEs goal was to make the ultimate battlefield game and ended up making the worst by far

    • @josephguzman4737
      @josephguzman4737 ปีที่แล้ว +267

      Its a lOvE lEtTeR tO tHe fAnS

    • @tacticalgengar420
      @tacticalgengar420 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Sad

    • @mdc3227
      @mdc3227 ปีที่แล้ว +36

      It's insane you think that was their goal. It wasn't.

    • @naturalfitness23
      @naturalfitness23 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @@mdc3227 before 2042 they made good games

    • @mdc3227
      @mdc3227 ปีที่แล้ว +83

      @@naturalfitness23 Agreed. BF1 was their peak after 4. DICE trying to chase trends is what killed the studio, you can't just make another Warzone. It's such a shame as 2042 could end up being the death of the franchise. When MW:2 releases it'll literally kill the game. Invasion and Ground War provide a far better Battlefield experience than Battlefield 2042 does.

  • @madfighter56
    @madfighter56 ปีที่แล้ว +860

    On a positive note, thanks to the abysmal state of gaming in 2022 I decide to go back to school for my grad degree. I just found my self having time to kill and no motivation to sit around playing games. Thanks Dice and shout out to 343.

    • @elcaminoguy2188
      @elcaminoguy2188 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      That's awesome

    • @alejandroflores8979
      @alejandroflores8979 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Bro same!😊

    • @lilbu223
      @lilbu223 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      lol same i havent touched games in a while

    • @calarcadarn
      @calarcadarn ปีที่แล้ว +35

      I would say 343 is even worse. They destroyed everything that was great about Halo and provide absolutely no content for Halo Infinite except the stupid armors.

    • @kyoseryt
      @kyoseryt ปีที่แล้ว +75

      Legit this, I had a drug problem and all I usually did was play video games and smoke, after last couple years with games being so dogshit it finally brought me to go to rehab. A realisation of a hopeless life of addiction wasn’t enough to make me change, having nothing to do within that life is what brought it about. Now I’m almost a year sober and finally can connect with my family members and I’m a better person in general for it

  • @thatzaliasguy
    @thatzaliasguy ปีที่แล้ว +177

    Imagine 7 years ago that you'd admit BF Hardline was a better battlefield than what we get in 2021.

    • @rustyshackleford4514
      @rustyshackleford4514 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      Hardline was an awesome game but not a battlefield. Loved that game and the fresh game modes.

    • @thesenate1844
      @thesenate1844 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      Hardline deserved better

    • @sadferrarifan7483
      @sadferrarifan7483 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@rustyshackleford4514 exactly, there was something in that game which i don't know what it was, that made me just playing it nonstop, completed the campaign in 2 days (i normally take a really long time to complete games but this one was just different)

    • @rustyshackleford4514
      @rustyshackleford4514 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@sadferrarifan7483 I didn’t play the campaign but the multiplayer was a blast. It had some neat songs on the car radios too.

    • @Bozzyman2
      @Bozzyman2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      At least hardline worked

  • @brodybircheat7273
    @brodybircheat7273 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    This really hit me with nostalgia. I remember when I used to come home from school, fire up my 360 and play BF4 for HOURS with my friends. Crazy how we used to HATE siege of Shanghai with the tower down; crazy how even with the tower down is better than all the maps on 2042. We still play BF4 to this day almost 10 years later. Crazy how the mighty have fallen

    • @KA-vs7nl
      @KA-vs7nl ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Ngl the tower down is great. The close quarters combat in the rubble is really fun

  • @rawnchydeard4669
    @rawnchydeard4669 ปีที่แล้ว +1290

    I love how DICE continues to ignore how they alienated most of their players. 2 fucking maps in a year???

    • @traviswells6938
      @traviswells6938 ปีที่แล้ว +75

      They refuse to take the blame and say the only reason all of the bad decisions were made is for money

    • @JustGetBlazed
      @JustGetBlazed ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I like to see you go make two Battlefield maps

    • @IlNamelessKinglI
      @IlNamelessKinglI ปีที่แล้ว +161

      @@JustGetBlazed imagine defending those garbage tier devs. Older Devs from DICE used to make 16 in the same time span and they used to announce them even before or little after launch day for the game.

    • @sparda9060
      @sparda9060 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@JustGetBlazed in a year BF4 they released like 4 maps packs which is over 14 maps i think with a lot of new guns, vehicles, and also new gsme modes!!!! So stfu and stop defending devs when they fucked up. You people are the reason why the devs dont care about screwing over the players who are their customers and just move on to make the next garbage sequel.

    • @sparda9060
      @sparda9060 ปีที่แล้ว +89

      @@IlNamelessKinglI BF3 and BF4 had 4 expansion packs within like a year or little over a year. That includes new weapons, vehicles, and also new fucking game modes!! Current devs cant hold shit to the old devs who left the company before its a sinking ship.

  • @billwolf3818
    @billwolf3818 ปีที่แล้ว +302

    This is what happens when you build a game around monetization

    • @caldwellkelley3084
      @caldwellkelley3084 ปีที่แล้ว

      Was inevitable once EA does what EA does ... Chase money. Time to move on.

    • @ididntaskverified3663
      @ididntaskverified3663 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      It’s a mobile game

    • @baltazardiazhumphreys4860
      @baltazardiazhumphreys4860 ปีที่แล้ว

      i mean bf4 kinda was build around that aswell but with content people actually liked

  • @noobsaibot8199
    @noobsaibot8199 ปีที่แล้ว +62

    I don't understand how we went from battlefield 1 and modern warfare 2019 to what we have now. Those two games were monumental in terms of attention to detail and the obvious passion and care that went into them. It's like nostalgia but for a time that was only a few years ago.

    • @BadMoody420
      @BadMoody420 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      In terms of its aesthetic and detail, MW19 was the definition of a lifelike and beautiful fps. However they kind of flopped on the gameplay side of things, they focused way too much on realism and looks.

    • @DownwardThrust
      @DownwardThrust  ปีที่แล้ว +5

      same

    • @Chubzdoomer
      @Chubzdoomer ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Battlefield 1 was gorgeous and sounded phenomenal, but lord it was a mess of a game. So many terrible mechanics (Elite pickups, Behemoths, gas grenade (spam), "sweet spot", random bullet deviation, the list just goes on and on). The perfect Battlefield would've been BFV's "oldschool/hardcore" elements (no-nonsense gunplay, limited ammo, more reliance on squadplay/teamwork) paired with BF1's visuals/atmosphere. It's just a shame we never got that.

    • @falcoon_f_zero9450
      @falcoon_f_zero9450 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      @@Chubzdoomer It definitely wasn't a mess of a game, especially compared to BFV that we got after.
      BF1 got too heavy with explosive spam but otherwise plays really well. The elite pickups and behemoths are not for everyone but they're a part of what makes the game unique. I thought they were fun and original additions to the game and was kinda bummed out that huge war vehicles did not return in BFV. It was the peak of the newer Battlefield releases.

    • @Nazylexx
      @Nazylexx ปีที่แล้ว +8

      BF1 is one of most immersive fps out on the market. I love maps and voice acting for it. For sure it has its problems but they nailed WW1 fps vibe in that one.

  • @deviousdude4162
    @deviousdude4162 ปีที่แล้ว +55

    Its good to see someone still going after the hard issues of this game, instead of just saying 'its good now, needs battleroyal' ala Levelcap. Honestly he's become a complete detriment to the battlefield community too because DICE actually listen to him, and he too doesn't understand what the community actually wants. Anyways, good video keep it up.

    • @DownwardThrust
      @DownwardThrust  ปีที่แล้ว +6

      thanks

    • @damienlee1165
      @damienlee1165 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Its kind of sad seeing Level become so complacent and settling for such a C/D-grade BF title. Used to watch his vids all the time in high school.

    • @H3LLGHA5T
      @H3LLGHA5T ปีที่แล้ว +2

      dunno why people still watch shillcap and shillfrags and other shillconsorts

    • @J.Wolf90
      @J.Wolf90 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      omg battleroyal doesn't need to be in every damn game these days

  • @rogeliorodriguez8518
    @rogeliorodriguez8518 ปีที่แล้ว +324

    BF2042 was a hit job. The COD developers were part of the team.
    Jeffrey Epstein didn’t kill himself.

    • @Frogswilly
      @Frogswilly ปีที่แล้ว

      ❤❤❤

    • @robrfoster
      @robrfoster ปีที่แล้ว +3

      this is the only theory that makes any sense 👍

    • @M4xXxIkInG
      @M4xXxIkInG ปีที่แล้ว

      yeah after playing the beta of 2042 i went and bought vanguard since it was 100% impossible for CoD to produce a game thats worse than what i played in the beta. (for explanation, i enjoyed the shit out of MW2019, so seeing its playstyle/gameplay return was a positive for me.) what killed vanguard for me tho was the absolutely fucking insane time it took to get a single gun to gold-status, and the fact that about 85% of the attachments were just useless bullshit like in BO:CW so you had to play with shitty attachments forever until you finally got a properly set up gun, at wihich point i was tired of playing said gun. in MW2019 i could gold a gun in 3 days at average, it took me way over a month to get the golden MG42 and when it was gold i was already max level. fucking stupid imo.

    • @DayWalker745
      @DayWalker745 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@robrfoster Nearly all the so called "theories" are actually true. Look into them.

    • @ghostofmoredishesmorebitch1507
      @ghostofmoredishesmorebitch1507 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      No even fucking worse... THEY'RE CANDY CRUSH DEVS no fucking joke

  • @maxchronicler
    @maxchronicler ปีที่แล้ว +387

    This game is like rolling a Dice.
    They got me once but I will never pay for a Dice game ever again.

    • @Mr1machine1
      @Mr1machine1 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      I was so hype for a new modern setting battlefield after bf1 and bf5 that I even bought the 90€ version of the game. In my mind there was no way that they could make a game worse than all the previous ones. My mistake was buying a game based on the previous entries in the franchise and not critically looking at the actual game in question. Dice has lost my respect so I will not be making that mistake twice.

    • @juandiegov
      @juandiegov ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Absolutely. I'm done with Dice

    • @kfirdrake8711
      @kfirdrake8711 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      More like never pay for a EA game ever again.
      They fucked all their other franchises too.

    • @ryanrobertson9744
      @ryanrobertson9744 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Rather play this than any other

    • @ReeseyMoney
      @ReeseyMoney ปีที่แล้ว +17

      @@ryanrobertson9744 sad life

  • @JADEK111
    @JADEK111 ปีที่แล้ว +43

    "If you don't like it, then don't buy it."
    I guess DICE and EA never learned the consequences of that statement since BFV, though they didn't say it again, but you gotta see it between the letters of Battlefield 2042's name now.

  • @percypringles4163
    @percypringles4163 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    As a long time BF fan with 1,000s of hours in the franchise, 2042 hurts my soul

    • @adamdurham16
      @adamdurham16 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Same… couldn’t have said it better.

  • @justarandomstranger6467
    @justarandomstranger6467 ปีที่แล้ว +908

    Battlefield 3 and 4 were the peak of battlefield.

    • @eerkie7087
      @eerkie7087 ปีที่แล้ว +178

      bf1 was amazing and still is but so are 4 and 3

    • @adimain0340
      @adimain0340 ปีที่แล้ว +39

      @@eerkie7087 bf1 is shallow

    • @effinjamieTT
      @effinjamieTT ปีที่แล้ว +66

      BF4 was also completely broken for the first 12months

    • @Sixstringman
      @Sixstringman ปีที่แล้ว +22

      @@effinjamieTT BF4's launch makes Bf2042's launch look half way decent.

    • @GlaciaDay
      @GlaciaDay ปีที่แล้ว +58

      @@Sixstringman Are you serious? The netcode issue and countless bugs of BF4 on launch were terrible, made the game barely playable but at least it was playable unlike 2042.

  • @misplacedmodifier46
    @misplacedmodifier46 ปีที่แล้ว +562

    I'm 76 and so happy I watched your upload - all those bugs you talked about, I didn't know they were bugs, thought it was my system - now feeling great about myself. I should mention that I'm not a run an gun sort of guy, more dash and die but still enjoy playing. BF 2 was my fav because you had a general that could direct squads.

    • @T0asty-
      @T0asty- ปีที่แล้ว +32

      Battlefield 2 and 2142 were so good.
      Shame what EA has done with the series.

    • @intellik56
      @intellik56 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes a dam shame but the. Again doesn’t ea do that with every title it gets it’s dirty little hands on smh

    • @wickedwu22
      @wickedwu22 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      I love to see more experienced gamers such as yourself. As the other guy said, it puts a smile on my face. See ya on the Battlefield!

    • @user-yo8ab1ys9e
      @user-yo8ab1ys9e ปีที่แล้ว +29

      You reminded me of an old geezer I used to play BF3 with. His name had Shellshock or something in it and he loved running Support. Whenever you needed ammo he was there and I loved hearing him cuss out the enemy lol!
      Haven’t spoken to him in a long time, hoping he’s doing well

    • @TheGXDivider
      @TheGXDivider ปีที่แล้ว +6

      76... why does this number bother me ?

  • @yootchoobe
    @yootchoobe ปีที่แล้ว +14

    My God, the aim snap bug...I didn't even know this was a thing... This happened/happens to me so often, I always genuinely thought there was just something wrong with my controller lol 🤣🤣

  • @nexjagg
    @nexjagg ปีที่แล้ว +30

    This video hit the nail on the head. I would also add that most of the battle pass and MTX cosmetics are ugly so it’s kind of a double fail lol.
    Also, yeah, apparently DICE thinks thermal and night vision will be gone in the year 2042 but replaced by no new technology… or they just rushed the game or are too lazy and didn’t put it in.

    • @VertietRyper
      @VertietRyper ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I suspect it was rushed (lol) but a lot of players really hated it in BF4. I liked them but didn't think they needed to be on every gun.

  • @homi1001
    @homi1001 ปีที่แล้ว +138

    The worst thing of all of this is, everybody knows they are not really trying to fix the game because they are really looking forward to pulling the plug as soon as Season 4 ends. There is no future so there is no reason in "fixing" it. The current Dice couldn't fix shit to begin with, but we all know they aren't even trying.

    • @JustGetBlazed
      @JustGetBlazed ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Just stop dude, every update fixes a lot of good stuff, there's been a ton of updates since the game came out. Ever since season one came out the game has been getting better and better, you just like to hop on the hate train because the internet tells you to

    • @dragonbornexpress5650
      @dragonbornexpress5650 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@JustGetBlazed. Cope, clown.

    • @matthewk4912
      @matthewk4912 ปีที่แล้ว

      Will there not be a Season 5?

    • @arman_6340
      @arman_6340 ปีที่แล้ว +40

      @@JustGetBlazed It's alright buddy, we know Dice tricked your ass into buying this shitshow.

    • @babyhoho6745
      @babyhoho6745 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@JustGetBlazed you would literally enjoy human feces if it had a bow on it… Also, your comment history is pathetic 😂

  • @jordan9292
    @jordan9292 ปีที่แล้ว +130

    You know this just struck me…. Maybe when dice named the game battlefield 2042 it wasn’t referencing futuristic warfare but rather dice was preemptively telling its player base this game won’t be ready until 2042 and none of us caught it

    • @insiainutorrt259
      @insiainutorrt259 ปีที่แล้ว

      if the money is in the game is done theyve done the same with since bf3 or so they are tricking and laughing at you

    • @robrfoster
      @robrfoster ปีที่แล้ว +5

      or their goal was having a total of 2042 players

    • @jordan9292
      @jordan9292 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@insiainutorrt259 not exactly sure what you’re trying to say but they don’t have my money I refunded this piece of garbage after the beta I wasn’t dumb enough to fall for this was an “older build” so they can laugh all they want they ain’t got my money

    • @jordan9292
      @jordan9292 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@robrfoster hahaha mission accomplished and failed at the same time. 128 sucks

    • @insiainutorrt259
      @insiainutorrt259 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jordan9292 smart of you to keep your money... most dont...
      i meant they are using the name/brand and just tricking people with minimum effort and bullshit to extract ALL!!!! of the money til its all dead and they think its funny when it causes suffering

  • @BigHugsFromHell
    @BigHugsFromHell ปีที่แล้ว +6

    It turns out when you make a game where even some of the bugs have bugs, all you can do is fix the bug's bugs, and as a player when you realize the entire game might be some kind of mega-bug, the best way to deal and live a bug-free life is to delete.

  • @x_HuLiMaKaFLip_x
    @x_HuLiMaKaFLip_x ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Everything you said from “…saying that out loud is depressing”, to “….blowing up a building because there’s a b-- sniper inside”……I felt that. To my core.

  • @qinlongfei
    @qinlongfei ปีที่แล้ว +115

    I got Angry Joe's '2 HOURS' vibe when Downward Thrust said '2 New Maps'.

    • @LightningRaven42
      @LightningRaven42 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      FOUR HOURS!!!

    • @calypso
      @calypso ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Do people still watch joe? Who wants to watch a dude sperging out for hours?

    • @Arcademan09
      @Arcademan09 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      @@calypso he still maintains a healthy amount of views, most reviews easily reach 1 million

    • @LowKiiSavage
      @LowKiiSavage ปีที่แล้ว +22

      @@calypso I mean it is funny watching him rip shitty games a new one for 30 minutes straight and thanks to the AAA industry, he has unlimited angry reviews

    • @hydrophilicchristopher9874
      @hydrophilicchristopher9874 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@calypso because it’s fun watching him tear up bad games.

  • @Reezy884
    @Reezy884 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    What pisses me off the most is that they took an extra year off to develop the game.

  • @sakshamsingh4383
    @sakshamsingh4383 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I’ve come across your channel for the first time today and dude, I’m blown away by the quality of the content. You’re so good at expressing your thoughts on a subject in the most sharp and concise manner which is often very relaxing and an absolute delight to watch. The capture quality is phenomenal and needless to say you’re good at most of the games even if you’re shitting on them.
    Heavily considering making another TH-cam channel only to be able to sub twice!

  • @PaleRust
    @PaleRust ปีที่แล้ว +2

    As always, really nice video. I just have to say I got distracted by you chasing the sliding body for the tbag and that pretty much made my day haha 24:16 good stuff.

    • @DownwardThrust
      @DownwardThrust  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      haha. hell yeah. you gotta t-bag.

  • @Steve-mx9rr
    @Steve-mx9rr ปีที่แล้ว +136

    how difficult can it be to design a BF game when there are countless predecessors from your own company?!
    just unbelievable how DICE forgot it.
    these will be sad years as a BF fan until maybe a hopefully good game will come out..

    • @cleanerben9636
      @cleanerben9636 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Abandon all hope, all ye who enter here

    • @ChickenMcThiccken
      @ChickenMcThiccken ปีที่แล้ว +14

      takes humans to make a game. when using different human; you get different vision of game. don't blame the company. blame the designers who are no longer from the same team; 10 years ago.

    • @WWE2KUNIVERSEELITE
      @WWE2KUNIVERSEELITE ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Uh. cause some of the developers who made the previous games left? Being a dice employee doesn't pay well as a long term occupation that is one factor that can affect their new games.

    • @MaXiUmImPuLsE
      @MaXiUmImPuLsE ปีที่แล้ว

      They didn’t forget because the data is there they say the same thing with Madden. We don’t have the data for the old madden so we had to make a new one and make it worse

    • @DownwardThrust
      @DownwardThrust  ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Very hard apparently bro

  • @cygnus_x1227
    @cygnus_x1227 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    My favorite 2042 feature is the "pay for it twice" feature that i have. I bought the base game before the beta.... then decided to upgrade before launch to the gold edition and when I realized they didn't just charge me for the difference, I had to try and get the original purchase refunded. that didn't happen. no-one responded to my emails and the time passed that i could be refunded. Great experience

  • @petertobin7214
    @petertobin7214 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I only bought it the other day from John Lewis for £17. I honestly wouldn't have paid any more than that having played it for about 5 hours. It's fun at times but in all honesty the most satisfaction I've had is spending the entire game in the passenger seat of a vtol with the repair torch. That's basically what I resort to as I struggle to feel like I'm having any impact on matches.

  • @Space_Chief
    @Space_Chief ปีที่แล้ว +84

    This is really strange. I've never experienced or even HEARD of some of these bugs, but my favorite that I have gotten so far is the "I know you're holding M1 but Im gonna simulate a jam and just stop firing for a split second" bug.

    • @matt2.052
      @matt2.052 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      There are or were so many bugs that everyone experienced something different almost

    • @sparda9060
      @sparda9060 ปีที่แล้ว

      The game devs who made thisngame are so bad that every platform that game is on has different bugs and glitches. Tells you how garbage it is to send your game to 3rd party dev who dont know jack shit about making mulyiplayer fps game like BF. FFS the original game was not even a BF game to begin with, they try to slap a filter or game mod over that game and try to turn it into BF game is insanity.

    • @jfygt2623
      @jfygt2623 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Same here. I never encountered some these bugs. And the rubber banding bug is gone for me after the update in S1. Probably it might be an isolated case for him.
      But definitely there ARE still bugs. Like the delayed grenade throw, and the newest one in the Avancis were you will notice a delay on continuous fire.

    • @sirjarko8762
      @sirjarko8762 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yea thats kinda the thing though, Frostbyte always had bugs that some people would get and others wouldn't alongside the common ones. This varies from platform to platform. After BF3 is started to slowly get worse, This game is like a showpiece of what not to do in game dev and for a franchise but also the Engine its self. 2042 is battlefield and Frostbyte at its absolute worse with the worst parts of every entry dialed up 10 fold.I didn't get his bugs that he mentioned but I get entirely other ones that are equally game breaking.

    • @KushtieM8
      @KushtieM8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You're telling me you never ran into the hit registration bug? Emptying a whole clip on a dude for him to kill me made me instant uninstall. Shame I'll never get that £100 worth of 'ultimate edition'

  • @drakonorkan1372
    @drakonorkan1372 ปีที่แล้ว +95

    i will always make the argument that teamplay in videogames have always been an issue. there are plenty of times when you would ask for help and nobody answers. however, this can only get worse when everyone can take care of themselves and nobody has a reason to ask for help in the first place.

    • @KushtieM8
      @KushtieM8 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      That's the sad thing with 2042, you don't know who to get help from. In previous battlefields, you KNEW who to go to for ammo, or who to heal you. You'd run up to them, ask for ammo and they'd give it. It meant you actually needed medics on field to revive you.
      Now everyone can resupply, everyone can revive. It's BS.
      Not BF... BS.

    • @prezzeruk4054
      @prezzeruk4054 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      in bf4 i got quite pally with a team mate.
      we would both play engineer class and concentrate on keeping enemy aircraft out of the skies!
      alot of the time, just hearing that lock on sound would cause a chopper to take cover.
      while its taking cover, its not bothering our players!
      obviously same applied to land vehicles too.
      soon as they heard that lock on sound, they would rush to break line of sight.
      they hate having the multiple kill machines destroyed!

    • @bbsugarsmurf19
      @bbsugarsmurf19 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      just another reason why 2042 doesn't embody the traditional spirit of past Battlefields, it was designed as a competitor to Warzone instead of a genuine entry of the BF series, sad for all of us BF veterans it definitely seems aimed at bringing in a different audience

    • @expressrobkill
      @expressrobkill ปีที่แล้ว

      Honestly i prefer the new system, i can heal and revive people i can give them and myself amo, or i can have amo and a launcher. If your not reviving your team mate and your a revive class then your just not good at using your class. Its just more customisation with is generally better

    • @homeygfunkoffacherryfruitl4971
      @homeygfunkoffacherryfruitl4971 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Dog they literally fixed this issue in Hardline by having friendly players be able to run up to a medic or support and just press the interact button to grab ammo and health off them.
      I have no idea why they never brought this feature back. Too many blind/deaf medics and supports out there.

  • @broncoxy
    @broncoxy ปีที่แล้ว +3

    3:42 _'When we praise a map for being better than it used to be or a game for getting better, we resign ourselves in the realm of mediocrity forever.'_
    Thank. You! Very well said!
    This is a thing that I could never understand, a thought process that was and is alien to me; just because something is better than before, it doesn't mean its good. If a luxury diner sells me the greatest burger in the country and then serves me the bread of a 2 days old McDonalds cheeseburger, it is bad and I'm disappointed. If they now serve me an uncooked patty and a tiny bit of wallmart sauce, yes, it _is_ better than before, but it is still not good in the slightest and not what was advertised and bought.

  • @trent5501
    @trent5501 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I like this guy he's coherent and patient with voicing this frustrations with this game made a lot of points I agree with

  • @Zach0451
    @Zach0451 ปีที่แล้ว +43

    Good to see you Tonald, hope you're doing well

    • @MasterPhilbo
      @MasterPhilbo ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Good to see our Lord and saviour Tonald Loke still making videos. And with a huge more amount of added slow-nald

    • @pangling2217
      @pangling2217 ปีที่แล้ว

      Indeed 👍

    • @DownwardThrust
      @DownwardThrust  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Same to you.

  • @LightWthoutTheStatic
    @LightWthoutTheStatic ปีที่แล้ว +22

    I'm well aware of my own disappointment or even sometimes cynicism with the Battlefield at this point, but with that said it genuinely is hard not to come to the conclusion that they are actively trying to sunset the series. It feels like they are trying to fail with the decision making from the top. It feels that bad to me. Every added month of 'nothing in for 2042' and 'another decision that hurts the game more than helps it' just feels like it was planned.

  • @brettapuss
    @brettapuss ปีที่แล้ว +3

    take me back to the days where i could spend £10 on a battlefield expension or cod map pack and get 12-16 maps per year with tones of new weapons/vehicles. compared to now with our "Free dlc" that every game brags about where we get 25% of the content we used to and then througout the games lifespan that free dlc we was promised is usually 2-4 maps over a year bringing the game just barely over half the content we used to get with older games.

  • @frwysten
    @frwysten ปีที่แล้ว +1

    maps for bf4 had also features like floodings, levolutions and cool stuff, weren't only maps but also new weapons, vehicles...

  • @sliceofheaven3026
    @sliceofheaven3026 ปีที่แล้ว +50

    Battlefield series has been on a downward descent for a few years now. Think they were so keen on chasing trends that they kinda forgot the fact that the older Battlefield players might not like the changes that they are making that much. I think next Battlefield game is the breaking point and if that game is anything like Battlefield 2042 the game series might be done for a while. I still remember how awful all assault rifles were in the beginning and the endless running between the wide maps with nothing much going on between the control points on those maps.

    • @Fightrec
      @Fightrec ปีที่แล้ว

      Word you be jogging for ages to that container ship and splatted by one silent camper

    • @ghostofmoredishesmorebitch1507
      @ghostofmoredishesmorebitch1507 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's candy crush devs now, may as well download the finals when it comes out since it's old dice making it

    • @nicksantana93
      @nicksantana93 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      This is not true as battlefield V was literally the best battlefield. Best movement. Environments solider customization the only reason people didn’t give it a chance was because of the shitty trailer with the female solider with a metal arm ( which wasn’t even in the game)

    • @ghostofmoredishesmorebitch1507
      @ghostofmoredishesmorebitch1507 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@nicksantana93 the game was broken af on launch and had the shitty premise amongst other issues, one of if not the worst selling in series says it all

  • @johnguy7104
    @johnguy7104 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    “Strong Language” Oh we’re in for some good content

  • @vasper7582
    @vasper7582 ปีที่แล้ว

    I subscribed during the ad just because you added strong language to the title haha

  • @babyitsnatural
    @babyitsnatural ปีที่แล้ว

    I have to say that was some excellent usage of the Jordan meme. It was totally unexpected yet extraordinarily effective thumbs up!

  • @BrunoMontanhez
    @BrunoMontanhez ปีที่แล้ว +8

    This not a bug, this is a one year feature from season 0/Beta!

  • @CulltureShock
    @CulltureShock ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Some of those bugs seem out of this world
    and some of them i've never experienced
    It seems like The experience you get with BF2042 is determined with which copy of the game you get

    • @DownwardThrust
      @DownwardThrust  ปีที่แล้ว

      there's probably a million bugs and everyone gets different ones.

  • @Galm276
    @Galm276 ปีที่แล้ว

    You’re still around!!! You haven’t been in my recommended forever literally one of the first people I subscribe to years ago

  • @Animemaniacman
    @Animemaniacman ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This video covered pretty much every gripe I have about the game.

  • @spyderchaos6331
    @spyderchaos6331 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Pretty good video, you supported your points well with your in-game examples. Hope it wasn't too painful acquiring them.

    • @DownwardThrust
      @DownwardThrust  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Nah, Shadowplay is a breeze for capturing things.

  • @westberlinerbuoi70
    @westberlinerbuoi70 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    PARACEL STORM OMG ❤
    Miss that map so much, levelution in general!
    Shanghai, Oman, Metro, Locker, Hainan, Flood Zone, Golmud, so damn iconic maps.
    Never thought I'd ever wish for BF premium to return...

  • @EdgeToFortnite
    @EdgeToFortnite ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I made sure to hit that like button because it helps a lot and only takes a second, especially because I could tell this video took hours to produce

  • @matony19
    @matony19 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    totaly forgot about the 120 price tag. I genuinely laughed when you said that. I would never pay that much money for cat in a bag. people who did are part of the problem.

  • @MrRobotdragon
    @MrRobotdragon ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Blessed be the Don

  • @balongaboy
    @balongaboy ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thank you! Finally someone else agrees this hero shooter should’ve just been done as a BF Heroes remake. A game that already had a cash shop and all the things they wanted here without being shoved in a mainline title.

  • @masonmaliwauki3673
    @masonmaliwauki3673 ปีที่แล้ว

    Keep up the great work Tonald!

  • @Tropax1
    @Tropax1 ปีที่แล้ว

    This video explains a lot of things for me just jumping in the game for the past 2 months, I didn't even know those bugs you mentioned were bugs. Very frustrating game, I hold off purchasing the game from lunch hoping it would have been fixed by now but man was I wrong, to be honest I'm having some fun but wth a lot of frustration.

  • @RedRum.
    @RedRum. ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Only bug ive ever came across was I died the same second I revived someome else and it turned me into a ghost the enemies couldn't see me and I couldn't hurt them. Low key I thought I was on a prank show cuz I ran around a corner and 6 people where all just sitting there staring at me not shooting 😂

  • @LightningRaven42
    @LightningRaven42 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I would love to see your take on Super Giant Games. They blew up with Hades, but they have been releasing great game after great ever since they started.

    • @DownwardThrust
      @DownwardThrust  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I like them a lot. Perhaps one day we can talk about some of their games.

  • @ARIXANDRE
    @ARIXANDRE ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The very first Battlefield I have ever skipped. I still keep watching videos like this in the hope that someone will say "now is the right time".

  • @lRedPosion
    @lRedPosion ปีที่แล้ว

    When I hear first things first my fingers always go to the screen to tap away thr sponsor. But glad you get straight to the point with your video :)

  • @ghostofdre
    @ghostofdre ปีที่แล้ว +8

    The bug that exposes the map when you get close to some objects is something that has been in every battlefield game. I remember exploiting that to track enemies coming up on my position.
    In old battlefield games you could kill someone in a knife animation.

  • @arattactician5697
    @arattactician5697 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    A great and comprehensive overview of the current state of the game as well as the "progress" that has been made since launch, Mr. Thrust. For this entire time I've kept up a sliver of hope that DICE could somehow manage to bring this game back from it's deathbed but I think I'm about ready to pull the plug, so to say. Easily the biggest disappointment of 2021 and 2022 for me.

  • @Kevin-Schmevin
    @Kevin-Schmevin ปีที่แล้ว +2

    They released the game at least a full year early, then stopped dev almost entirely. I'll never pre-order another dice game ever again.

  • @omarelalfy5
    @omarelalfy5 ปีที่แล้ว

    i agree with everything he said, my questions is is there a new fps that u recommend? because coming from BF i dont like how other shooters weapons feel, something off about it dont know what and i dont want to play BF 2042 anymore

  • @FireWalkMusic
    @FireWalkMusic ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I completely agree with everything you said. As a longtime battlefield fan I was stupid enough to preorder this game because I was so hyped. However, I quickly realized how bad this game really was, so I refunded it and haven't touched it since, nor am I going to. BF2042 is actually the only game I've ever refunded. As a long time battlefield player, this game felt like an abomination...
    I'll give the next game a chance. Hopefully they can redeem themselves. If not, then the franchise is dead.. In the meantime, I'll be playing BF4. There are plenty of people there, and plenty of servers. :)

    • @vurhn2009
      @vurhn2009 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I never preordered except for re2 remake and doom eternal but yes just waiting for sale is a safe bet but not for triple a games mostly as I buy indie games and Japanese games.

    • @BadMoody420
      @BadMoody420 ปีที่แล้ว

      This is why people need to stop preordering games, especially now with this new trend of “release now, fix later” motto. The only game I’ve pre ordered in the last 8 years was Elden Ring, last game I preordered before that was Black Ops 3.
      We can’t give these companies the satisfaction of preorder numbers and sales until we know that they’ve learned their lesson and they actually need to finish the game before launching it, or else people will get scammed and disappointed like you. And trust me I don’t want fans and consumers to face that because that’s just despicable on the devs’ part.

    • @ghostofmoredishesmorebitch1507
      @ghostofmoredishesmorebitch1507 ปีที่แล้ว

      Just check out "the finals" it's the old dice devs and the map teased looks exacy like sienne crossing

  • @brentfurtado7580
    @brentfurtado7580 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    When I first downloaded this game at launch I was so excited to play a battlefield campaign that was based in the near future and was instantly disappointed seeing that there wasn’t a campaign. Then I tried playing multiplayer 3 time and every time it put me into a lobby where no one could spawn in and I haven’t touched the game since.

  • @alphatonic1481
    @alphatonic1481 ปีที่แล้ว

    @13:25: Are you sure it's not your Mouse01 dying? I had a similar issue in Sandstorm but it was my mouse01 that died.
    @26:20: Did you ever try binding your keys around ESDF or even RDFG instead of WASD? I use ESDF for a bunch of FPS games and it changed my life so to say.

  • @Skitzotech
    @Skitzotech ปีที่แล้ว

    How I use the slide mechanic in this game.
    1. Sprint up to a corner.
    2. Around 10 feet before you hit the corner jump.
    3. Instantly slide.
    3. Instantly jump.
    4. Turn in the direction you are expecting to see enemies and ADS.
    What the "sprint-jump-slide-jump" does is it somehow doubles your speed at the second jump... UNTILL your feet touch the ground again.
    I use it to run faster through the wide open areas... I use it to launch my character around a corner twice as fast and far as enemies are expecting a character to jump around said corner.

  • @stormway289
    @stormway289 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I'd give it a go if it went free to play. Maybe they should release a Netflix anime to bring some numbers back 🤣

    • @farsjamal6865
      @farsjamal6865 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Cyberjoke 2077

    • @redbullsauberpetronas
      @redbullsauberpetronas ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It's so annoying seeing that game get praised, it was a broken pile of shit for a year fixing the issues doesn't deserve praise it's the bare minimum

    • @stormway289
      @stormway289 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@redbullsauberpetronas Even if they somehow got it to a state of quality of Battlefield 4 (like it ever could) I still could never give any amount of money for it.

    • @ghostofmoredishesmorebitch1507
      @ghostofmoredishesmorebitch1507 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@farsjamal6865 cyberpunk has been fine on pc the entire time

    • @ghostofmoredishesmorebitch1507
      @ghostofmoredishesmorebitch1507 ปีที่แล้ว

      Chekc out "the finals" it's by old dice

  • @dopatonin
    @dopatonin ปีที่แล้ว +19

    If you’re playing games in 2022 and still playing mainstream AAA games, you’re doing something severely wrong.

    • @MalikATL
      @MalikATL ปีที่แล้ว +1

      we can't like games that's hated? no way!!!!!!!

    • @calypso
      @calypso ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Better than indie trash

    • @Urelasir
      @Urelasir ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@calypso lol Nice way to tell everyone that you actually havent been trying Indie games.

    • @gelul12
      @gelul12 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Urelasir most Indië games are the same rehashed ideas and aesthetic though. Same goes for AAA but indies arnt the leap forward.

    • @TheREALHugo4
      @TheREALHugo4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@calypso Indie games have a way better market nowadays.

  • @cgg7415
    @cgg7415 ปีที่แล้ว

    I kinda stumbled on your channel and I agree with your video ills definitely subscribe!

  • @JustinAdie1
    @JustinAdie1 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The final straw for me was when they released an update that completely broke horizontal look movement and told players to fix it in the config file for PC.

  • @SimplexPL
    @SimplexPL ปีที่แล้ว +5

    👍
    It's "Arica" harbor, not "Africa".

    • @berzerkercat
      @berzerkercat ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Which means that the guy didn't play BC2 at all)

    • @SimplexPL
      @SimplexPL ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@berzerkercat Or he just misspoke, we can only speculate.
      I did play BC2 and Arica Harbor will forever be in my heart :)

  • @canneverthinkofaname
    @canneverthinkofaname ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I think a large issue might be the team at DICE these days. Not necessarily the developers but the people that command what the developers do. Many of the people that were at DICE moved to Embark Studios which is a new studio. If you check out the demo of their game called The Finals and look at the destruction alone, you can see where the talent went. BF3 was peak BF and has been on a steady decline since.

  • @jettisongamer7990
    @jettisongamer7990 ปีที่แล้ว

    Superb analysis!

  • @zouky007
    @zouky007 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi Mate, could you please do a video or just share share your BF 2042 settings? which Graphic card you have?

  • @Gosu9765
    @Gosu9765 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    The fact that I now consider buying CoD pretty much sums the game perfectly. There was a time I would laugh about how BF has CoD centuries behind and would not understand the appeal - now (tho admittedly technical aspects of BF are still far ahead), the gameplay itself is shit (tho it got much better recently and the game at least works - I kid you not - the game couldn't launch into match for few months after release on PS5 and I preordered the ultimate there...). Such a good lesson about something I held as obvious truth a long time ago - never preorder - even you favourite franchise.

    • @BadMoody420
      @BadMoody420 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Well I hate to break it to you but cod isn’t much better. I recommend saving your money and just go back to older cods or battlefields. Way more fun.

    • @DownwardThrust
      @DownwardThrust  ปีที่แล้ว

      I feel ya

  • @EMUNZTA
    @EMUNZTA ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I’ve been gaming all my life- this is the first game I want a refund on

  • @dudebro0481
    @dudebro0481 ปีที่แล้ว

    what's that music you got playing in the background? I like it

  • @ethanmcmaster8857
    @ethanmcmaster8857 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Used to play bf 1942 on my grandpa's laptop back in the day, loved bf4. Not just annoying but Genuinely sad at the state of battlefield, just want things to be like they used to :(

  • @dhauz___7855
    @dhauz___7855 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    A few months before this came out, I'd gotten back into playing Battlefield with BFV and BF1. I was so looking forward to buying and playing this because I had tons of fun playing those two games and additionally remember the fun times I had playing the BF set in the modern era like BF4 and BF3.
    I've never pre-ordered games and didn't pre-order this, despite my excitement and I'm glad I didn't after seeing how it turned out.

  • @_Devil
    @_Devil ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I remember when BF5 came out, I thought to myself "Theres no way it can get worse".
    Well, lo and behold, Dice managed to do just that. They managed to do worse than BF5.
    Congratulations Dice. You have permanently ruined your reputation to me and nothing short of Bad Company 3 will bring me back and trust you again.

    • @yamanator10
      @yamanator10 ปีที่แล้ว

      Oh shut up about that old crap

    • @yamanator10
      @yamanator10 ปีที่แล้ว

      Bfv is the best multiplayer game ever made

  • @NeutralGravity
    @NeutralGravity ปีที่แล้ว

    Love the vid, but what’s with the background music? I don’t mind it at first, but it’s the same loop for half an hour.

  • @A1000GramsRaw
    @A1000GramsRaw ปีที่แล้ว

    hey love your videos bro, what headset is that?

  • @KapitanPazur1
    @KapitanPazur1 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    >says that there is strong language
    >the video does not contain any harsh words
    bruh
    Also: STOP WITH THE STUPID MUSIC!
    Its terrible mixed with your voice. Its too loud when compared to you talking, song is way too repetitive on short loop and gets fast annoying and I don't like that it feel like forced "its sad and depressing topic. CRYYYYY NOOOOW" emotions that it try harding to give. Just don't. Just have you talking in the video. NO "MUSIC" NEXT TIME PLEASE.

  • @jarnomeekes6756
    @jarnomeekes6756 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    2042 is the death of the franchise
    Now it needs ressurection. But i doubt it after this travesty

  • @teusaurus
    @teusaurus ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I think the bug at 14:15 is due to having a controller connected to the computer. At least I had a similar issue, but not as extreme, that was caused by that.

    • @DownwardThrust
      @DownwardThrust  ปีที่แล้ว

      I thought so too, but it hasn't stopped after I unplugged my controller. Now, I think it has something to do with bluetooth... but who knows?

  • @ObamaTookMyCat
    @ObamaTookMyCat ปีที่แล้ว

    Have you also noticed that DICE is falling into the same trap that call of duty did years ago with people solely running around with the M5 with PDW rounds, or the Vector.... because those guns somehow stomp all else at any range....

  • @iPlayOnSpica
    @iPlayOnSpica ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I didn't like half of BF4's maps because many were open and vehicle/sniper oriented (limiting fun as regular infantry), but at least the sheer quantity kept me occupied. That said, despite BFV's mistakes, I liked that it had a better ratio of infantry friendly maps to vehicle maps. BF3 also had a great selection of infantry friendly maps.
    2042... I didn't play the game, and I don't care to find out.

  • @wickedwu22
    @wickedwu22 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I just bought it a month ago and I have to admit that I’m impressed how stable it it compared to that “beta”. I’ve been playing with bots on Stranded getting to know the map and get used to the weapons, etc. The AI is impressive as well and Portal is the best part of it. The lack of good maps is a problem though and I don’t know if they can come back from that launch. I seen this coming years ago…the live service crap I mean. I’m just surprised I’m having any fun with it at all. I’m sure it will be short lived and I’ll just come back for Portal and the AI solo/co-op mode but at least the gunplay is solid when it works correctly. The gunplay compared to MW2 makes me appreciate 2042 even more. Vince is right…not enough foundation.

    • @meatbeatmania
      @meatbeatmania ปีที่แล้ว +1

      mw2 gunplay is alot better than any bf imo so smooth and snappy

    • @Stupididiot67
      @Stupididiot67 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Just play battlefield 4

  • @IAMTHEJUGGERNATE
    @IAMTHEJUGGERNATE ปีที่แล้ว

    I haven't had ADS bugs since one of the first major updates, so that is really unfortunate that you're still getting them all the time. I don't play McKay, so I wonder if his faster ADS movement has something to do with the bug?

  • @VertietRyper
    @VertietRyper ปีที่แล้ว

    13:46 this bug is in both BF1 and BFV.
    It's detecting something above you (no matter how small it is) so the game is "preventing" you from clipping into the material. Truely one of the features of all time, and totally hasn't put me in double digit deaths in BF1 and BFV. players also count as objects which is great in a close combat scenerio where melee on ground opponents is usually a guarenteed kill.
    At least sometimes I can whip out a lunge mine in V

  • @bradmace6144
    @bradmace6144 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I downloaded this game. Saw no campaign. First map was shit. Sandy city, felt dead. Loads more women than men, (breaks realism for me) and the characters are shit... deleted

  • @jarrelljohnson7345
    @jarrelljohnson7345 ปีที่แล้ว

    My god it has been a year…. Time does fly bc I remember being hyped and buying the bundle just regret it

  • @LucasJodokast
    @LucasJodokast ปีที่แล้ว

    ive been playing for a few days & there is definately some fun to be had, feels like it just launched tbh maybe in another year we will get a polished game

  • @tq5556
    @tq5556 ปีที่แล้ว

    i remember hating the map kaleidoscope when it launched as i play sniper and there was basically zero cover on the whole map so i would just spawn and insta die over and over

  • @jeriah4k218
    @jeriah4k218 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ground war on mw2 brings me back to bf3 days surprisingly

  • @JustinWillhoit
    @JustinWillhoit ปีที่แล้ว

    There’s a bug that you can’t ads when exiting a vehicle. Still can’t a year later

  • @diarmuidolaoghaire3922
    @diarmuidolaoghaire3922 ปีที่แล้ว

    Not being able to Match Make into any game mode right now bar Exodus Conquest is the biggest frustration right now. They need to bring back the Server Browser.

  • @myklallen7184
    @myklallen7184 ปีที่แล้ว

    I just really enjoy the background music 🎶 🎵 to this video.. who is performing this?????

  • @thescoobienoob7716
    @thescoobienoob7716 ปีที่แล้ว

    The bug I always get is the
    One where you exit a vehicle and can't ads

  • @quesokid4959
    @quesokid4959 ปีที่แล้ว

    Was about to give it a shot again, well looks like I’m waiting

  • @Pitchtaken
    @Pitchtaken ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Reminds me of what's happening with Halo Infinite. Two games that looked amazing in trailers, but lacked any content unfortunately. I predict a swing back towards indie games in the next couple years.

  • @BigWilmson
    @BigWilmson ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm just here for the f-words. I at last want to see a video again that feels natural.