Funny enough, when mom saw my brother playing as Dan in Street Fighter V at one point, she said "oh, I know that guy, it's Joe right?" She was remembering her time playing Joe Higashi in King of Fighters back in the arcade days
the wind wood fire mountain is called Furinkazan, its a sengoku war flag that quoted "as swift as wind, as gentle as forest, as fierce as fire, as unshakable as mountain" from the art of war
Good history lesson! When I was younger I used to think Joe was a jole character in the SNK side because of his team up with Dan in the game, before I knew anything about SNK.
This video was super awesome and informative. I've been playing fighting games forever, but it's really cool seeing you focus on the connections between moves and characters and where they came from. Amazing work!
Regarding Dan's Otoko Michi, when he performs this he yells "Father!!" and I always assumed that the intention was for him to use a hidden bomb to sacrifice himself in order to kill Sagat and avenge his father. Is there any basis in canon for that? Seems a bit dark, but that's what I extrapolated from that voice line.
FTR: Joe actually has a working relationship with Lily, at least the last time I'm aware. This is known to piss off Billy Kane whenever they meet. It's not like Billy and Lily live together mind, Lily is back in the UK and Billy is earning money to support them both (...well, the cash is decent under Geese Howard), so Billy can do absolutely jack to stop them. If you ever do a piece of Lily Kane, yes, she can fight just like Billy can and doing the laundry makes her really buff. EDIT: I was under the impression that he might have adopted some of his sister's animations but I am mistaken.
@@TheSeventhForce Hang on, I might have remembered the movelist incorrectly. Billy's HSDM predated Lily's version (2002 was before 2006). I thought he took that from her. Sorry!
Fun fact...Dan shows up in Akuma's ending in MSH vs SF as Cyber-Dan. And since Cyber Akuma is a nod to Mazinger....Cyber Dan is a nod to Great Mazinger! Also, SVC Chaos made the Otoko Michi even more OP by outright removing the self damage and having it be Dan's Desperation Move/Exceed..so it uses no Meter but it's one time use only.
Dan's such a goofy fun character the amount of love poured into him is immaculate the first time i had heard of Dan having a sister, was his ending in SNK vs Capcom Match of the millennium, where he and Ryo are rivals (think sf4 arcade mode) in the ending Dan lists off the similarities between him and Ryo, and references her, and how goh hibiki is portrayed in pocket fighter "i have a father who can shoot lasers from his nose!" always loved the line "next time we'll see who's who! who's the fake, and who's the original!" he says to Ryo in it
CVS1 > CVS2 in my heart. Both are amazing games but there's something more that clicks with me when it comes to CVS1. Sometimes I like CVS2 a bit more, but 1 doesn't get enough love.
Oh, absolutely agreed. CvS2 is inarguably the better fighting game from a mechanical standpoint, but I've always maintained that CvS1 has some of the best aesthetics and presentation of any 2D fighting game I've ever played. I tend to feel the same way about MvC1 compared to MvC2 and Second Impact compared to 3rd Strike lol
@@TheSeventhForce Both of those are correct imo, though I feel like with CVS1 its not fair to compare it to 2, since both play differently. One is almost a bit like KOF 95, the other is more like an SF Alpha game. CVS1 is so ridiculously fun, also great vids! I hope you make more.
@@neonthunder3261 Oh for sure. CvS2 kinda feels like the logical conclusion of Capcom allowing more freeform playstyles starting with Marvel 2 with it's team building, Alpha 3 with it's ISMs, and CvS2 taking the ISMs and running with it. CvS1 kinda stays moreso in it's lane gameplay-wise and that's still okay. And thanks! That means a lot.
@@TheSeventhForce YW! I personally enjoyed both games, but my love for fighters leans a bit more SNK. I hope we see another Capcom crossover sometime though!
Funny part about through all the years, Dan canonically speaking is still a weakling than said Joe Higashi. Joe kinda acts like Kuwabara in a sense he wins some fight majority he loses. Dan though, I bet he can’t even beat a crow. But to pair him with Joe is somehow realistic on the developers part since the two are kinda each side’s character laughing stock during those times. P.S. I heard Dan Hibiki defeat a group of thugs in a Street Fighter manga that stars Sakura though…that might be the closest credibility Dan will ever get.
Make sure to check out baberuthless' channel if you haven't already: www.youtube.com/@baberuthless
Hey you have returned!
@@xavierwalko4175 Yeah! Old channel's gone because of a mistake on my end. Back up and running here, though.
@@TheSeventhForce And you are making new videos too, I see.
Let me guess you accidentally deleted it
Something else not mentioned is that Yuriko has returned in SFVI as the shopkeeper for the collab item shop in the battle hub
Funny enough, when mom saw my brother playing as Dan in Street Fighter V at one point, she said "oh, I know that guy, it's Joe right?"
She was remembering her time playing Joe Higashi in King of Fighters back in the arcade days
the wind wood fire mountain is called Furinkazan, its a sengoku war flag that quoted "as swift as wind, as gentle as forest, as fierce as fire, as unshakable as mountain" from the art of war
Ah, thanks for providing some additional context there!
This also appears in Ryu's SF2 stage and sometimes, in the belt of his Gi iirc
Good history lesson! When I was younger I used to think Joe was a jole character in the SNK side because of his team up with Dan in the game, before I knew anything about SNK.
Thanks for watching! And yeah, he definitely presents as pretty goofy, but it doesn't extend to his moveset like it does Dan lol
Thank for having me! 😊
Of course! And thank you as well!
Baberuthless content is fantastic! Happy to see a charcater breakdown channel, this collab seems meant to be!
Baberuthless sent me here! Great video btw!
Thanks! I'm glad you enjoyed it.
23:00 the japanese reads "furinkazan" which can mean "as swift as the wind, immovable as a mountain"
Isn’t Dan trapped in one of the capsules in X-Men vs Street Fighter in Apocalypse stage? (Along with Beast and Psylock?)
Yep!
Keep up the great content king
Will do!
This video was super awesome and informative. I've been playing fighting games forever, but it's really cool seeing you focus on the connections between moves and characters and where they came from. Amazing work!
Thanks!
Regarding Dan's Otoko Michi, when he performs this he yells "Father!!" and I always assumed that the intention was for him to use a hidden bomb to sacrifice himself in order to kill Sagat and avenge his father. Is there any basis in canon for that? Seems a bit dark, but that's what I extrapolated from that voice line.
Really awesome video! Definitely enjoyed watching and learning about the movesets of joe and dan!
Thanks Shock!
FTR: Joe actually has a working relationship with Lily, at least the last time I'm aware. This is known to piss off Billy Kane whenever they meet. It's not like Billy and Lily live together mind, Lily is back in the UK and Billy is earning money to support them both (...well, the cash is decent under Geese Howard), so Billy can do absolutely jack to stop them.
If you ever do a piece of Lily Kane, yes, she can fight just like Billy can and doing the laundry makes her really buff.
EDIT: I was under the impression that he might have adopted some of his sister's animations but I am mistaken.
Oh wow, I knew about Lily being in MI2, but not that Billy took stuff from her afterwards. Interesting!
@@TheSeventhForce Hang on, I might have remembered the movelist incorrectly. Billy's HSDM predated Lily's version (2002 was before 2006). I thought he took that from her. Sorry!
@@GreatChicken2No problem, I appreciate the clarification!
Awesome stuff! love the collab with you and Baberuthless!
Thanks!
Fun fact...Dan shows up in Akuma's ending in MSH vs SF as Cyber-Dan. And since Cyber Akuma is a nod to Mazinger....Cyber Dan is a nod to Great Mazinger! Also, SVC Chaos made the Otoko Michi even more OP by outright removing the self damage and having it be Dan's Desperation Move/Exceed..so it uses no Meter but it's one time use only.
I swear snk games and collabs have some of the most interesting fighting stages
SNK fighters have some of the best fighting game stages ever. My favorite one of all time is in KoF 99, incidentally!
nice video! hope to see more of your works
Thanks, you definitely will!
The battle of the two goofy homies in different squads
I found out dans taunts in mshvssf give him meter
8:24
If I remember right both Joe and Dan were reveald at the same day, or at least week, one for sfv and the other for kof xv. That was cool 😁
Yeah, I think Joe's KoF XV trailer and Dan's first gameplay trailer for SFV were a week or two apart. Good times.
Dan's such a goofy fun character
the amount of love poured into him is immaculate
the first time i had heard of Dan having a sister, was his ending in SNK vs Capcom Match of the millennium, where he and Ryo are rivals (think sf4 arcade mode)
in the ending Dan lists off the similarities between him and Ryo, and references her, and how goh hibiki is portrayed in pocket fighter "i have a father who can shoot lasers from his nose!"
always loved the line "next time we'll see who's who! who's the fake, and who's the original!" he says to Ryo in it
Awesome channel btw
Wasn't Dan's sister, Yuriko Hibiki, that same girl that runs out with Sakura in her pre-match intro in Marvel Superheroes VS Street Fighter?
Nope! That's her best friend, Kei.
I'm guessing the SNK vs. Capcom games for NGPC and NeoGeo aren't featured due to being SNK games and not Capcom games.
Correct! But I'll be talking about those games and some other SNK crossovers in a similar capacity to this video series very soon!
CVS1 > CVS2 in my heart. Both are amazing games but there's something more that clicks with me when it comes to CVS1. Sometimes I like CVS2 a bit more, but 1 doesn't get enough love.
Oh, absolutely agreed. CvS2 is inarguably the better fighting game from a mechanical standpoint, but I've always maintained that CvS1 has some of the best aesthetics and presentation of any 2D fighting game I've ever played.
I tend to feel the same way about MvC1 compared to MvC2 and Second Impact compared to 3rd Strike lol
@@TheSeventhForce Both of those are correct imo, though I feel like with CVS1 its not fair to compare it to 2, since both play differently. One is almost a bit like KOF 95, the other is more like an SF Alpha game.
CVS1 is so ridiculously fun, also great vids! I hope you make more.
@@neonthunder3261 Oh for sure. CvS2 kinda feels like the logical conclusion of Capcom allowing more freeform playstyles starting with Marvel 2 with it's team building, Alpha 3 with it's ISMs, and CvS2 taking the ISMs and running with it. CvS1 kinda stays moreso in it's lane gameplay-wise and that's still okay.
And thanks! That means a lot.
@@TheSeventhForce YW! I personally enjoyed both games, but my love for fighters leans a bit more SNK. I hope we see another Capcom crossover sometime though!
Damn I've beem thinking this for long so I'm glad someone else feels the same way
I just suscribed,
Greetings from México
Awesome! Thank you!
Please do shuma gorath!!!
If they made street fighter vs mortal kombat one of Dan’s fatalities should be he does a taunt that makes the opponent explode
The type of vids I like.
I'm happy to hear that! Definitely more where that comes from.
Funny part about through all the years, Dan canonically speaking is still a weakling than said Joe Higashi. Joe kinda acts like Kuwabara in a sense he wins some fight majority he loses. Dan though, I bet he can’t even beat a crow. But to pair him with Joe is somehow realistic on the developers part since the two are kinda each side’s character laughing stock during those times.
P.S. I heard Dan Hibiki defeat a group of thugs in a Street Fighter manga that stars Sakura though…that might be the closest credibility Dan will ever get.
Actually Dan has more feats. He beat chun li in sfa3, the fought blanka to a draw in sf5, and as you said beaten thugs.
What about Ran Hibiki? 🤔
great vid
Thanks!
No svc chaos Dan?
Not just yet! I actually plan on dedicating videos specifically to svc chaos and match of the millenium.