2016 F6B versus 2018 through 2020 Goldwing

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  • Why I bought the 2016 F6B over the new Goldwings!

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  • @jcd9327
    @jcd9327 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I’m at the moment to buy a new bike. And I was hesitating between 2013 F6B (red, no cruise control, no reverse) and new Goldwing bagger. I agree with all your points.
    Thanks for this comparison. Very useful.

    • @johnk12345100
      @johnk12345100  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Glad it helped! And thank you for watching

  • @bossmonkey1126
    @bossmonkey1126 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Picked up a 2015 F6B Deluxe this spring and rode it from Bakersfield to Colorado that day, Never thought I'd buy one of these things, never thought I'd ever want cruise control or highway pegs, both a huge plus on longer rides. Motor pulls like a Cummins so will be remedying the one major flaw soon by installing Henry's final drive, Honda brain farted this one. The motor craves 3k-3.5k at 80-90 (cruising speed) not 3.5k-4k. Not changing the final drive ratio from the big Goldwing for the F6B's "new demographic" was a major miss. Never say never? I wouldn't be caught dead towing a trailer with a motorcycle nor converting one to a trike, I'll buy a convertible.

  • @97.5sacbluesblend6
    @97.5sacbluesblend6 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    LOVE my 16 Deluxe F6B It's a whole bunch of watch out now

  • @wowhealer
    @wowhealer 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Loving my new to me 2013. $9999 with 2400 k miles. Only had for a month but it is already my goto bike now. My vtx has started to collect dust. Looking at adding 11” madstad, new seat, passenger rest for now. This is addicting. Charlotte NC.. love the videos. Great job

    • @johnk12345100
      @johnk12345100  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Great! I love my 2013 until I broke the transmission! I think I mentioned this in the video, just be careful when you downshift make sure you downshift firmly before giving gas, once it starts jumping out of gear, your 2013 is toast on the transmission, they can call it whatever they like on the forums, ghost shifting Etc, bottom-line the transmission is bro, supposedly they strengthen the fork whatever's in the 2014 and above, but I would just take it easy, I think I did a specific video on shifting, you might want to find it. But anything F6B is definitely hitting it out of the park!

  • @sgs1715
    @sgs1715 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Sir, you are spot on correct in your review of old vs. new. I purchased a 2019 Goldwing (Bagger) after selling my 2013 F6B a year ago. Rode the 2019 for 1 month and sold it. Found a 2017 F6B and have never looked back (for all the reasons you've highlighted). Great job, happy riding!

    • @johnk12345100
      @johnk12345100  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Great story glad you got your bike back! And kind of nice going from that 13 to 17, do you notice that you don't have that morning hesitation when you first start it up and drive off, it was a small thing but my 13 would just kind of lose gas for a second on the first 30 seconds of the ride. But my 16 never does that, not to mention the better sounding side pipes! Thanks for watching and enjoy that great ride

    • @sgs1715
      @sgs1715 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@johnk12345100 Hadn't really noticed a hesitation issue with the other bike, but I do enjoy the added features of cruise and heated grips. As for your Madstand review, I am looking into the best option for my 5'10" frame. Great videos, thanks.

  • @victorjohnson2093
    @victorjohnson2093 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great choice I have a 15 and I love mine

  • @starseeddeluxe
    @starseeddeluxe หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    You're one of the rare few who actually recognizes beautiful body lines, colors and curves. You wouldn't believe how many buyers and enthusiasts have no taste and no discernment about anything. Most people still haven't realized that the most beautiful Sportbikes were made during 1998 to 2002. And sadly, most people still haven't realized that motorcycles have horrendously low (completely incorrect) final drive gear ratios for USA 80mph Interstate touring. New isn't always better, and in the case of gear ratios, the 1932 Henderson had a proper overdrive transmission.

    • @johnk12345100
      @johnk12345100  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks for watching the video! I'll have to look into those models you mentioned.

  • @BizOrNot
    @BizOrNot 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Nice video! I bought the white 2016 Deluxe from a dealer in Canada WITH ABS since the US F6Bs were not available w ABS. LOVE it! Your video answered all my questions about "should I get a new GW?" I am keeping my F6B!

    • @johnk12345100
      @johnk12345100  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Good to hear! Congratulations on getting one of those last leftovers! I don't think I'm ever going to regret my decision! I guess we'll see what 2024 brings?, but the 18th to the twenties are not impressive at all in my opinion! Thanks for watching

  • @rafaelcalderon2027
    @rafaelcalderon2027 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great vid, Like you I love my 2015 B Deluxe, I am the original owner it has 14K on the clock and rides like a champ. I see no need to upgrade to a newer model; I don't need all the Bells and Whistles, all I need are open roads, In addition insurance on the new bikes is about $800 a year, I pay $696 for two bikes. My other bike is a 2009 HD FLHT with a S&S 110. Enjoy what you ride that's the bottom line.

    • @johnk12345100
      @johnk12345100  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Agree on all accounts! Wow you have your bases covered with a Harley and a Honda! You don't hear that too often, LOL good combo!

  • @edwardtumbaking2189
    @edwardtumbaking2189 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Good comparison..love it..

  • @deanb3033
    @deanb3033 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great choice on color, the matte white is incredible! I would trade my black f6b for a white one in a second.

    • @johnk12345100
      @johnk12345100  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I just saw this, did you ever find a white one?

  • @roadglide
    @roadglide 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Any generation, responsibly maintained or new Gold Wing is a winner. Solid, reliable and smooth. Install a set of LED main headlights and your set. Bike has super visible color and blacked engine and lowers looks fantastic. I’m on my 3rd Gold Wing and never understood the need to have drink holders on a motorcycle. Ride safe and ride often. Life’s short, just buy the bike.

  • @wretchedrider2157
    @wretchedrider2157 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great stuff, I agree with all your points. I watched several vids on the old red F6B. Welcome to the 15+ refresh! Aren't those factory pipes nice?! I also got my new old stock 16 over the 18s when they came out. Really glad I got the 16 over the new gen. It's not perfect but it's close to it! Bigger windshield was necessary after a year or so (I also went MadStad but it, too, isn't perfect). Added the OEM center stand and passenger seat. But that's all I've done for now.

  • @petermurphy1952
    @petermurphy1952 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Got the exact same bike... 3 years now, from new... just like you said, better with time. And I’m in the same camp with technology.. this has enough, don’t want fobs and apple CarPlay and all those electronics.. only difference is mines a deluxe, love the center stand and blinker self cancel

  • @1961Humbucker1
    @1961Humbucker1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Got to agree with everything that you said John, I can't get over Honda shrinking the size of the new Gold Wings so much! Nice bikes for sure but I don't consider them a full-size tourer anymore, especially for 2-up. If I didn't have a passenger I would be OK with the new GW but when I think GW I'm thinking roomy and lots of luggage capacity.
    In a perfect world I would have my F6b and the new Gold Wing sitting in my yard but that's not ever going to be my reality, so if I have to settle on just one bike the F6B ticks pretty much all of the boxes.
    But I'm sure that those new Gold Wings are a fun ride, maybe I'll get a chance to try one out this summer if my dealer has a demo days or something.

    • @johnk12345100
      @johnk12345100  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hey sorry believe it or not I just saw this comment, what did you end up getting?

  • @MrFuncat
    @MrFuncat 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The "Three Hour Tour" made me chuckle.

    • @johnk12345100
      @johnk12345100  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah I almost started singing Gilligan theme song but that would have dated me! Thanks for watching

  • @ut1004bp
    @ut1004bp 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    well it matches your dresser real well..lol.. I traded off my Yamaha Stratoliner for a 2014 F6B but didn't like it as much, and a couple months later I went to another dealer who had a new 2014 Stratoliner and we made a deal.. The seat was just too wide for me, and I hated the low, and close ratio gearing.. at 45 mpr I was already in high gear (for best comfort).. too low gear.. and jerky throttle response compared to the 1900 Stratoliner. On my F6B, the stereo speakers on mine were poor too. I didnt hear if you have Electronic cruise control or reverse.

  • @alenfora1400
    @alenfora1400 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Are not many f6b in europe looks great

  • @scooterman4363
    @scooterman4363 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Cool bike, congratulations. I'm looking at a 2013 f6b black non deluxe 14200 miles for $11000.00 . I'm riding a 2006 Honda st1300 now but wife says it's to small and won't ride on back so that's why I'm considering the f6b, what do you think about the one I'm considering? Thanks

  • @clubmike2910
    @clubmike2910 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love the bike

  • @mcoop571
    @mcoop571 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I had an ‘07 GL1800 for 9 years and 65K miles. I just sold my ‘18 Tour DCT last week, after 22 months and 7800 miles of trying to fall in love with the thing.
    I’m picking up a 2016 GL1800 next week, doing a “fly and drive” to pick it up. It’s a 14 hour ride home, and I couldn’t be any more excited! I plan on two 12 hour days right in the middle, circling Arkansas. I had ZERO interest in such a ride on my 2018.

  • @luisjromero
    @luisjromero 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Agree with you my friend

  • @da72ma
    @da72ma 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    How much bike is too much... Well 20k against my checkbook is... staying with my 15 F6B Deluxe... 15 to 17 F6B got cruise control as well... I already got the "Electrical Connection s" Bluetooth device installed and have the complete Pathfinder LED conversion kit, rear carrier, and electric (key fob) saddlebag openers to install... Little at a time... Eventually I will get the LED fog lights too... There are folks who wanna gimme the same money I paid for it two and a half years ago... I love the matte silver... Good review

    • @johnk12345100
      @johnk12345100  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Oh yes a 15 Deluxe is just as good as a 16 Deluxe! Sounds like you're building that up for your Forever by, I will never let mine go!

  • @wrbuford13
    @wrbuford13 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    What kind of cupholders do you have?

    • @johnk12345100
      @johnk12345100  9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Those are Kuryakyn, and I believe they are about 50 bucks a piece, I love it and my wife loves hers on the back!

  • @edwardanenberg349
    @edwardanenberg349 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Biggest thing for me is how small they made the new bikes, I’m 6’3 no go on an 18

    • @johnk12345100
      @johnk12345100  ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah I'm not sure of their strategy on this, I think they gave up size for more nimble, and sports like riding, because like I said I think in video even with the top case, that thing maneuvered as good as my F6B does

  • @Landeniscool1234
    @Landeniscool1234 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hey John. I can't agree with you more! Especially in regards to the appearance of the bike and how it definitely has the "bagger/gunslinger" look! It's "lines" as you stated couldn't be more true also. The tough look where the air intake is and the solid seamless look from the back with all the symmetry and balance is unreal!!
    Is it just me But why in the hell would they completely change the flawless looks from the '17 to the '18??? They could've added the convenient and substantial upgrades "WHILE" retaining the flawless looks and practical size luggage!! What are your views?? Was it a must to redesign the structure to accommodate the features Or did the design professionals "think" the goldwing riders wanted a Glorified sport touring bike??? I frankly prefer the mean looking bagger image

    • @johnk12345100
      @johnk12345100  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I think you hit the nail on the head! I think their main goal was to get more younger Riders riding Goldwings! I'm not sure how much they lost to the competition BMW, but yeah it seems like they definitely went after something different. I didn't know that they had a governor at 115 mph on the new ones either! I just heard that the other day oh, have you heard that?

  • @robertkollath8929
    @robertkollath8929 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thankyou for a helpful review I am just beginning my research, local dealership has a 2013 delux for $9500 low miles 17000 I think is the 2016 that much better?

    • @johnk12345100
      @johnk12345100  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Well just like any new car or motorcycle the first year they come out there's going to be Kinks that need to be worked out! I would really think about looking at a 16, last year they made them in this thing feels so much more solid then the 13 did! The transmission feels so much more tighter, again I think they put some more strength in the forks or whatever but it helps that transmission stay good! Not only that but you'll have cruise control, and if you think this is going to be the forever bike like it is for me, definitely get the deluxe so you don't have to add the center stand on your own, and you get the backrest with the turn signals that shut off automatically. I'm happy I got my 13 as it kind of helped me learn about the motorcycle, but I would definitely suggest 16 Deluxe for anybody new coming in.

    • @robertkollath8929
      @robertkollath8929 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thankyou for the advice.

    • @97.5sacbluesblend6
      @97.5sacbluesblend6 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      YES YES YES HELL YES

  • @Batten-jc6ws
    @Batten-jc6ws 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm a proud 2015 F6B Deluxe owner myself. I can't see any reason to upgrade. Ride safe!

    • @johnk12345100
      @johnk12345100  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Sorry for some reason I didn't get a notice and just saw this, thanks for watching!

  • @zulkifalahmad2347
    @zulkifalahmad2347 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Whats the difference between deluxe vs non deluxe?

    • @johnk12345100
      @johnk12345100  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Heated grips, Center stand, automatic turn signals oh, I put a center stand on my red one, but it's hard to duplicate Factory heated grips and I don't think there's a way to get canceling turn signals without getting the deluxe, when I had my red one and didn't have that stuff I said I didn't need it, now I love all of it LOL plus of course the 2013 did not come with cruise control

  • @cyclechris6591
    @cyclechris6591 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Dude I lived with it for 2 years on my B. The stock suspension is garbage. Honda probably spent $200 bucks on a 800lb bike.Then I went to Georgia for the traxxion update. Nothing can compare. So much safer, and more comfortable. Totally different bike. In the mean time, shim that anti dive valve. Big step. Good video pal!

    • @johnk12345100
      @johnk12345100  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah believe it or not I'm okay with the stock suspension, I've started riding with my tire pressure a little bit lower than recommended, and have my shock set at half the manual 32 notches I think that are available, and I feel at my wife feels pretty good on it! I've disabled the anti dive on my other wings, and really don't see any difference, the only time that the anti dive kicks in when you're going over bumps with the Pedal brake engaged, I've learned to ride with the front brake in case of bumps to protect my Forks. I could never ever see paying that traxion 3,000 to $4,000 ticket to improve what I'm okay with, but I'm glad you enjoy it! A lot of people Rave about it for sure

    • @cyclechris6591
      @cyclechris6591 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hey If youhave time watch the presentation Max did for wingding years ago. I found the link for part two. th-cam.com/video/CO33gvoh_dk/w-d-xo.html
      The anti dive works with front brake. It locks one fork. If your ever in Okc please hit me up. Have fun.

  • @foolishcoyote.
    @foolishcoyote. 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Do they offer this bike with dct transmission?? Or just the goldwing 1800 is a dct?

    • @johnk12345100
      @johnk12345100  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      The only DCT offered in the Goldwing is from year 18 on, mine and his 2016 so no, no F6B he's were made with DCT, which I'm thankful for cuz I hate DCT LOL I rode an 18 and it was so clunky I hated it, I love to pull in the clutch and rev LOL

    • @foolishcoyote.
      @foolishcoyote. 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@johnk12345100 yes..their dct transmission is rather "unrefined to me....that DCT transmission has been around for awhile now and im not impressed...sounds like there are cement bricks somersaulting in the tranny. I own a yamaha tmax...its an automatic also...yet..shes so smooth...and can do ovr 100mph...with a pop up storage seat. Been thinking of growing up finally cause im 50ish years old & gettinh a 2020 goldwing bagger DCT. I want a stereo crusier bagger....and honda is the only one that offers an automatic.😁

  • @harryhowell5644
    @harryhowell5644 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My favorite goldwing is the black. The new wing does look good but it looks more like a sport-tourer. I ride a Harley ultra so style is subjective. I think honda is more competing with BMW. Harley and indian are the big vtwins

  • @russellnewcomb8542
    @russellnewcomb8542 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Where did you see a new wing for 18 k

    • @johnk12345100
      @johnk12345100  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Video was made 2 years ago. Thanks for watching

  • @xepririyanto4134
    @xepririyanto4134 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    mantap bro , saya suka

  • @mikegreendale6936
    @mikegreendale6936 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Priority # 2 J&S JACK !!!

    • @dseibel388
      @dseibel388 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That is one nice machine. Love the white

  • @bobwampler3387
    @bobwampler3387 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    On the 2018-2020 models, the handling was supposed to be more like a sport tourer than the previous models. I think the F6B is supposed to handle better than the full tourer, but how did it compare in handling to the 2018-2020 models.

    • @johnk12345100
      @johnk12345100  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Great question! I test drove the DCT, hated that automatic transmission but I have to say one thing, the full tour that I test drove, felt almost exactly like the handling on my F6B, it was pretty phenomenal. To have that top case on the back and still handle so well at slow speeds

  • @Magicinstalls
    @Magicinstalls 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Sounds like you didn’t spend enough time on the new gold wing. Light years ahead of the 17 down I see your dream bike as an 18 tour pearl white. Trunk delete kit, upgraded wind screen. Come stock with apple car play. GPS is flawless. Reverse gear. Corbin saddle bag extension.

    • @johnk12345100
      @johnk12345100  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I never say never any more! But I really love this F6B! I'm an Android man so, never had a problem with stock seats either, on the golden wings oh, I would like to have a reverse now and again. I pay attention where I park for sure LOL

  • @robertparisi8016
    @robertparisi8016 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love my 2013 f6b deluxe, changed the windshield to a higher goldwing shield with vent, f6b is lower that the 18 and newer, I like it better, I've driven the 2020 gw , it's ok, just like my f6b better, wish it had 6 spds and reverse, that's about it for cons, hope they bring the f6b back, they wont!!!dont agree with cupholders, stop and get a drink!, radio controls, navigation, cruise control, drinking beverages, pay attention to ur driving , distractions cause accidents, it's a motorcycles and not a car, fender bender to a motorcyclist can be fatal!

    • @johnk12345100
      @johnk12345100  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I agree I love the F6B to! I think as far as safety goes with gadgets and drink holders it's all in your timing on when you use them, make sure you're in a safe spot and you're good to go! Especially on a hot day, important to stay hydrated keeps your brain operating correctly, dehydration is probably more dangerous than drink holder, just my opinion.

  • @mcfuller5020
    @mcfuller5020 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Black rack would have flowed better with your bike, actually it kills the flow.

    • @johnk12345100
      @johnk12345100  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah about 25% of comments go that way, 75% leave it as it is, and I hate to say it but I'ma leave it as it is guy, I think that flows perfect

  • @cyclechris6591
    @cyclechris6591 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice bike. Id name her Orca. Hey stay in touch if you like @CycleChris2 on Twitter. Ive done many upgrades.

  • @josephbolz4550
    @josephbolz4550 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I liked my 16 better.

  • @markmason7019
    @markmason7019 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love the F6b but I think the white is hideous. Have rode a 2019 Goldwing and prefer it to the F6b but it's still a fantastic motorcycle

    • @johnk12345100
      @johnk12345100  ปีที่แล้ว

      Definitely disagree I love that Matt white except for the staining of course! Black and white with blue lights definitely makes people look at you so I think it's the safest bike on the road

  • @andrewlantz5148
    @andrewlantz5148 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    had a 2016, 2018 alot better, ride an Less hand stress, and bad front shocks on 2016

    • @johnk12345100
      @johnk12345100  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yeah you might have me there no doubt, they did improve with that Wishbone suspension on the front, the little difference you feel, as remember I did ride a 2018, dct, and would never go to that bike over mine, due to Simply the aesthetics, my bike looks so much better than the 18.